4:12 am November 17, 2012, by AJC Opinion
The Hawks ended a four-game road swing out West with a 112-96 win over the Kings – Atlanta’s ninth consecutive win against the Kings.
Kyle Korver scored 22 points, reserve Lou Williams had 21 and the Hawks beat Sacramento 112-96 on Friday night for their ninth consecutive win against the Kings.
Atlanta shot 55 percent, including an 8-for-15 performance from beyond the arc, while recording a season-high point total. The Hawks outrebounded the Kings 42-37 and had 24 assists.
“We can be a real up-and-down team, we know that,” Atlanta coach Larry Drew said. “We preach moving the basketball. We emphasize sharing the basketball and we did a really good job of that. Guys were finding each other all over the place and when we play like that we’re a fun team to watch.”
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Rod from College Park
November 18th, 2012
2:56 pm
“But yeah, you were right about him.”
I know.
Melvin
November 18th, 2012
2:58 pm
Rusty,
Astro believes in player development in/during practice. I think its an indictment on the coaching staff especially when you prefer to play guys who was acquired by trade or FA signing over your own draftees year after year. LD prefers to play Lou who’s still trying to learn the offense over Teague who has been a part of this pentagon offense since it has been installed.
Rod from College Park
November 18th, 2012
3:00 pm
High-sider,
These idiots are still trying to find any and every way to hate on Jamal. It’s rather hilarious. Same guys, now they are making excuses. LOL
Co-Sign
November 18th, 2012
3:50 pm
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
2:29 am
Big Ray you’ve been running these blogs and your mouth all this time. Did you stop to notice that less and less bloggers are on this site? Im not talking about how many times you troll. Im talking about legitimate bloggers.
Why dont you STFU some times. You dont know WTF you are talking about and you are running everybody away.
Please STFU
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I agree that the best way to break this cycle of mediocrity is to trade Al Horford and Jeff Teague. any meaningful plan to change the direction of this team would have to begin with those two clowns.
Im so tired of seeing this same ol s hit and same ol lame excuses from these bozos. And Al is a coach killer. Your team is going now where with Al. Sells are down, fans interest is down, blogging is down, advertising is down. SMFH.
How long does a fan have to put up with this crap?
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Astro Joe
November 18th, 2012
3:51 pm
Melvin, Lou must be a fast learner because he looked dang good out there the other night, didn’t he? 20+ points and 0 TOs.
Rusty, even when CP3 was a younger PG and coached by Byron Scott, he was pulled from the game roughly around the same time, regardless of his individual performance. It also helps the bench player to know when he will get his first action when a head coach tries to maintain a regular “schedule”.
Astro Joe
November 18th, 2012
4:02 pm
Rusty, I would play Teague more than 27 minutes/game. He got 33 last season and I would give him at least that much this season. Of course, if he rests for around 15 minutes game, that means he needs to rest around 7 minutes each half.. so he will still need to sit regardless of his performance at that time, right?
I think it is hard to get too hung up with averages after 10% of the season, though. The “Devin experiemnt” is likely finished… my guess is Teague will be “slotted” for 33+ minutes as long as he doesn’t make too many mistakes. And if he does, he doesn’t need to be rewarded with the same playing time as when he is playing well. It would be akin to giving a kid the same allowance rather he performs his chores as required or not.
High-sider
November 18th, 2012
4:19 pm
Rod from College Park,
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Rod from College Park
November 18th, 2012
3:00 pm
High-sider,
These idiots are still trying to find any and every way to hate on Jamal. It’s rather hilarious. Same guys, now they are making excuses. LOL
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I think it [the hatred on Jamal Crawford] should be [made] illegal [on this blog]. “You can’t lead a horse to water and make it drink” just like “a pimp can’t lead a “freak” to ‘the track’ and make her think.” [LOL]
Co-Sign
November 18th, 2012
4:25 pm
I see what you are saying Rusty. I dont think anybody can stop this mouth diarrhea.
Ray
November 17th, 2012
12:01 pm
Big Ray
November 17th, 2012
7:19 pm
Big Ray
November 17th, 2012
7:33 pm
Big Ray
November 17th, 2012
7:37 pm
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
12:05 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
12:08 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
12:12 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
12:20 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
12:26 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
10:38 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
10:43 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
10:46 am
Big Ray
November 18th, 2012
10:48 am
Damn there only 3 pages of blog, seems like all from 1 mouth. Not counting the 13 times this dude is trolling. WTF?
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
4:28 pm
AstroJoe There is such a thing as showing confidence in a young pg who you would want to get better with time. JT is at this time the best pg we have. Lou is not a pg,he is always looking to get a lot of shots,just like JC did, why would you want to take him out when he is playing good,the team seems to play very Well with him in the lineup,he plays good defense & doesn’t turn the ball over that much.you can’t tell me after 2 years that LD doesn’t treat him unfairly.
Sneaker Freak
November 18th, 2012
4:29 pm
How many blogs does it take to say ” I don’t know jack s hit” ?
If you take away rays 32 blogs we would still be on the 1st page.
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
4:30 pm
Co-sign is a idiot.
Melvin
November 18th, 2012
4:34 pm
Astro,
Have you ever heard of in-game management? Most coaches make adjustment within the game depending the flow. If a guy has a hot hand, then you continue play him extended mins until he’s tire or his hot hand cools off. For Teague, his coach will cool his hot hand for him. Oh well, I will be glad when this clueless head coach be shown the door at the end of the season….
Astro Joe
November 18th, 2012
4:35 pm
Rusty, so what happpened Friday night in Sacramento in the 2nd half? I actually agree, I wouldn’t play Lou more than token minutes at PG… but after Friday night I could be wrong.
I would pencil in the PG minutes like this: Teague 34; Devin 12 (to make sure he hassome trade value by February; Lou 2.
But game time situations can change that. I would NEVER guarantee any player 30+ minutes regardless of the game situation.
Astro Joe
November 18th, 2012
4:38 pm
Melvin, I wanted LD gone the day he was hired. But he isn’t the only coach who follows a set schedule. And, again, I struggle with cruxifying a head coach after a comfortable road victory.
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
5:08 pm
Rusty is an idiot
thermostat
November 18th, 2012
5:12 pm
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
2:29 am
Big Ray you’ve been running these blogs and your mouth all this time. Did you stop to notice that less and less bloggers are on this site? Im not talking about how many times you troll. Im talking about legitimate bloggers.
Co-signing Rusty and Co-sign
Why dont you STFU some times. You dont know WTF you are talking about and you are running everybody away.
Please STFU
Rusty Is Gay
November 18th, 2012
5:14 pm
Now you know the rest of the story. – Paul Harvey.
James
November 18th, 2012
5:30 pm
We know who is the gay one & it’s not Rusty.
Jae Evolution
November 18th, 2012
6:58 pm
Blatche 9-9 for 18 points in 11 minutes.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
November 18th, 2012
9:16 pm
Tolliver over Blatche
Slimjr
November 18th, 2012
9:18 pm
7-1
25-7
5 intercepts Today? Whew. Playoffs??
doc
November 18th, 2012
9:59 pm
12- 22
0-8
9-1
slimj want to play?
ag
November 19th, 2012
7:00 am
At the rate C-Viv puts new blogs up, rarely do we get up to 3 pages. The Hawks blogs remind me of when the congregation knows your pastor is not preaching – most decide to miss church that week.
When C-Viv said he was going on vacation, many of the bloggers did also. Then we get an AP story of the game – just pathetic!
One of the biggest mistakes Sund made (and he made a lot!) – is not hiring Avery Johnson – or another coach who had been a NBA head coach.
Joe Johnson continues to struggle for the Nets. Although he is averaging 36 minutes per game, he is averaging only 15.3 ppg/
Even worse, Kirk Hinrich in 25.3 minutes per game, is averaging 4.9 ppg 2.8 rbs and 5.9 ast.
Knowing this, why is Sund still on the Hawk payroll?
Astro Joe
November 19th, 2012
9:05 am
If MC Hammer can still rock a performance, then the Hawks need to sign Stacey Augmon to be our starting SF and lockdown perimeter defender.
O'Brien
November 19th, 2012
9:36 am
doc,
GT is the ACC coastal division champs. If we beat FSU, we go to a BCS bowl game. Who woulda thunk it
O'Brien
November 19th, 2012
9:46 am
Ken S,
This is why despite Dwight’s back trouble last year, it was Bynum who was (and always will be) the most injury prone big man.
From espn.com;
“I have an issue with my knees,” Bynum said. “I’ve pretty much seen every specialist. … I have no idea [when I can return], I really don’t. I’m playing it day-to-day, which is probably the wrong thing to do in this situation. I’m waiting for the docs to kind of give me something, and they’re waiting for me to tell them my knees don’t hurt.”
Bynum said he didn’t do anything abnormal when he apparently tore off some cartilage and bruised a bone in his left knee while bowling..
He has been out for a while, and for the money he will want in free agency , I think he is too big a risk.
vava74
November 19th, 2012
10:32 am
Rosen is no longer as reliable with his opinions as he was in the past, but with regard to the Hawks and LD, he nails it:
http://hoopshype.com/columns/rosen/the-coaching-rankings
vava74
November 19th, 2012
10:34 am
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
November 18th, 2012
9:16 pm
Tolliver over Blatche
Yep. Mind blogging. What was the risk?
… ummm on second thoughts, LD instils ZERO discipline, so Blatche would go astray immediately.
Melvin
November 19th, 2012
11:03 am
If the Hawks would have signed Blatche, they could have used the big line up and started him or ZaZa at the 5. I would’ve preferred Blatche over ZaZa in the starting lineup b/c Blatche is a better post player on offense. But oh no, we have borderline talent Tolliver who does not have a true position on the court. Too small for PF and not skilled enough to play SF.
Astro Joe
November 19th, 2012
11:23 am
Before last night’s game, Blatche (who is 6′11″) was shooting less than 36% from the field. Let’s ignore the first 7 games and focus solely on one.
vava74
November 19th, 2012
11:29 am
AJ,
Still better than 20% which is what Tolliver is shooting right now, with ZERO upside from a player talent point of view.
vava74
November 19th, 2012
11:36 am
And the fact is that he is now shooting .462 from the floor.
Everyone’s shooting average is made out of good and bad shooting patches.
Astro Joe
November 19th, 2012
11:42 am
vava, IMO, Blatche would have meant more minutes at SF for Josh. I don’t really see that same dynamic with Tolliver. And again, the team’s 5th big man shouldn’t really be that important to a team’s fortunes… especially since the first 4 bigs have been mostly healthy.
I won’t rain on Blatche’s parade… here’s hoping that he continues to enjoy one great performance in every 8 games.
doc
November 19th, 2012
11:48 am
o’b i cringe as we maybe the next 8 game loser after a howl game following in ucla’s foot steps to finish 6-8. they fired their coach after that. -:)
we keep our run of bowl games intact
surprised tevin had the ball as much as he did?
are we going to surprise the dogs and let vlad become chief dog catcher in state to then beat fsu and won a bcs bowl game before the end of his freshman year to lead a 9-5 credible year boosting the bees into the top ten before the year ends?
yeah dream on
glad they hung in there for a bit of respect not not holding my breath nor betting against 6-8 final record.
vava74
November 19th, 2012
12:04 pm
AJ,
If you had said that you were afraid that Blatche would mean less IVAN, I would agree since that is already happening with Tolliver…
Astro Joe
November 19th, 2012
12:07 pm
vava, I am really not arguing Tolliver vs. Blatche. I would prefer neither. If for some reason you want to debate the lesser of those two virtual scrubs… you win, as I don’t really have the energy to engage in that exercise.
Rev in Tampa
November 19th, 2012
12:15 pm
Help! I’m just found out that I can go to Hawks game tonight. Where can I find some good tickets? I seem to remember that somebody said there are better options than Stub Hub. Also what section can I expect to sit in for $20-30 per ticket?
ag
November 19th, 2012
12:26 pm
After the first eight games, I think most of us would have been happy with a 8-8 start. We knew we had tough games against Miami, OKC, LAC and Portland. The next six feature Charolotte (twice), Orlando, Washington, Cleveland and LAC. Combined, these teams are 16-28 and if you drop the Clippers, 9-26.
ag
November 19th, 2012
12:29 pm
Rev – Stub Hub is great! I got my tickets for $9. I purchased 8 of them. I am sitting in 121 row H. There are still some good seats on Stub Hub. I will NEVER use my Atlanta Hawk rep again!
doc
November 19th, 2012
12:38 pm
rev groupon had a special on friday
Rev in Tampa
November 19th, 2012
12:38 pm
ag,
Thanks! I know I can always count on the blog.
doc
November 19th, 2012
12:42 pm
rev groupon deal done as i just checked
stub hub prob best way to go
Najeh Davenpoop
November 19th, 2012
12:42 pm
I tend to agree with the people who say Blatche wouldn’t have been as good on this team. We sometimes tend to look at Josh as some sort of head case/loose cannon because he occasionally takes bad shots, even though ultimately he wants to win and positively impacts the game in a variety of ways. Blatche’s career track record is that of a far worse kind of head case — the kind who is lazy, doesn’t work to improve his game, and doesn’t impact the game in other ways nearly enough to justify the bad shots he takes. If LD can’t get Josh to improve his shot selection, can he be trusted to improve Blatche’s work ethic, attitude, AND shot selection? I doubt it.
Neither Tolliver nor Blatche is the right choice. I’d rather have Damion James than both.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 19th, 2012
12:42 pm
Stubhub is good. Seatgeek is better.
doc
November 19th, 2012
12:45 pm
looking forward suggests an easier path to bring the record above .500. survived a challenging start.
doc
November 19th, 2012
12:46 pm
seat geek?
cool never heard of it
Najeh Davenpoop
November 19th, 2012
12:48 pm
Hawks are 9th in ESPN’s latest Power Rankings.
O'Brien
November 19th, 2012
12:48 pm
Doc,
I think Washington played well. Maybe senior day had something to with it. If he had played that way more consistently, we would have a better record. That being said, I am looking forward to having Lee full time next year.
It would be nice if both GT and UGA can win their conference, but regardless of how it turns out, I hope GT beats them Dawgs.
Najeh,
How did Falcons #2 look yesterday
Astro Joe
November 19th, 2012
1:01 pm
Really? The Hawks don’t have a culture of hard work and discipline? And should avoid short-term players who have issues working hard and staying disciplined? Wow, what a novel concept.
doc
November 19th, 2012
1:03 pm
i am hoping cpj decided he didnt need vlad and is so confident of his abilities to cage the puppies that he held him back to keep uga from having mire snaps to study of him. wishful thinking?