Hawks handle Kings … again
The Hawks ended a four-game road swing out West with a 112-96 win over the Kings – Atlanta’s ninth consecutive win against the Kings.
Kyle Korver scored 22 points, reserve Lou Williams had 21 and the Hawks beat Sacramento 112-96 on Friday night for their ninth consecutive win against the Kings.
Atlanta shot 55 percent, including an 8-for-15 performance from beyond the arc, while recording a season-high point total. The Hawks outrebounded the Kings 42-37 and had 24 assists.
“We can be a real up-and-down team, we know that,” Atlanta coach Larry Drew said. “We preach moving the basketball. We emphasize sharing the basketball and we did a really good job of that. Guys were finding each other all over the place and when we play like that we’re a fun team to watch.”
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Astro Joe
November 17th, 2012
8:41 pm
Big Ray, coming to arrest LD for the crime of winning a game without Teague getting a hug.
I wonder if some of you guys go home and cry in the fetal position when your boos expresses disappointment in your performances? I can only pray that Teague is tougher than some of his most ardent fans.
And yeah, after letting the Kings back into the game with a 36 point 2nd quarter, LD was likely concerned with a defensive letdown. Check the 3rd quarter play-by-play out…
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400277848&period=3
bad intent
November 17th, 2012
8:50 pm
We need to be trying to figure out a way to get something for Al and Teague while they have some value. Baby sitting days are over.
Al horford is a Coach Killer.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
November 17th, 2012
8:54 pm
Only reason we pulled away in the second half was Horford making his layups instead of blowing them like he did in the first.
Rusty
November 17th, 2012
9:10 pm
Astro joe are you really LD. You seem to have his smarts.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
November 17th, 2012
9:11 pm
Jordan Crawford making his first start of the year for Washington. Doing pretty good too. What do we have to show for that trade?
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
November 17th, 2012
9:15 pm
Petro making more money than Teague. Dam shame.
O'Brien
November 17th, 2012
9:31 pm
Big Ray,
Co-sign. And it would have been one thing if Tegaue was a rookie. But he started last year, and so far this year was playing reasonably well. Let him play.
I think the biggest issue was LD taking out Teague so early in the first half when he was on fire. Why not ride the hot hand?
Teague sat on the bench until <6 minutes were left in the second quarter. By then he was cold, and I would bet he was sulking. Maybe that contributed to his inability to stop Brooks. And although Teague had some breakdowns, the big run Sac made was not all on him. Plus part of it was Sac could not miss.
cp
November 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
LD is not consistent when it comes to accountability. Josh is allowed to do what he wants and is never pulled. Horford was getting worked defensively by Thompson and he wasn’t pulled. So why was Teague pulled for 2 bad defensive assignments. And as much as I like Hordord dude hasn’t been that good defensively this year. When Lou was turning the ball over in Golden State and the offense was stagnant with him at point why wasn’t he pulled? It almost seems like Teague has to play perfect. Its no reason why this dude should be playing under 30 minutes a game. All players should be held accountable not just one.
MattP
November 17th, 2012
10:48 pm
cp ,
Nicely said.
High-sider
November 17th, 2012
10:50 pm
Jamal Crawford makin’ all kinds of crazy shots.
High-sider
November 17th, 2012
10:52 pm
Coach Thibodeau runnin’ two Bulls defenders at Crawford; that’s the ultimate respect.
Buddy Grizzard
November 17th, 2012
11:27 pm
Pretty major beat down by the Clips.
Buddy Grizzard
November 17th, 2012
11:37 pm
Sam Smith @SamSmithHoops about 10 minutes ago
At least Bulls made Vinny bring his starters back. Radmanovic against Blake Griffin turns out not to be advantage Bulls.
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2CXtXRIHM
LOL… you know VDN has to be loving that win. If you recall, he was fired by the Bulls after being physically assaulted by GM John Paxson. How the tables have turned.
High-sider
November 17th, 2012
11:44 pm
Buddy Grizzard,
I have a special request and/or suggestion. Please write an article on your “rep atl” blog discussing former Hawks players/coaches who have moved on to “new found” early success this season. Please talk about Jamal Crawford ballin’ with the Clippers – probably the early frontrunner for SMOY; Joe Johnson playin’ with the Nets, a team that is off to a 5-2 start; Woody and the [first place] Knicks who are off to a 6-1 start; Marvin Williams at Utah (I’ll let you fill in the blanks there); Kirk Hinrich starting for the Bulls at point guard while Derrick Rose is recovering from a torn ACL; Willie Green starting at shooting guard for the Clippers; and NBA veteran Radmanovic found a spot on the Bulls’ roster, etc.
sam'l
November 17th, 2012
11:56 pm
I think the Hawks should be 6-2 right now. That would make me happy. Horford and Smith both have their strong points. So does Teague. All 3 of them should be gently guided into developing their respective games.
Whole team gotta scrap on every play. If they get tired, put in someone else. Learn to win. Go Hawks.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 17th, 2012
11:58 pm
“Petro making more money than Teague. Dam shame.”
Petro should be getting paid in renminbi. Or maybe Philippine pesos.
I MUS WRITE
November 18th, 2012
12:30 am
CP -Your 10:02 post pretty much sums it up. Seems like sum of these fans are of the same mind set as LD. One game out of 8 is a really small sample size. Teague is our best option at the Point, or maybe we could give Speedy Claxto or Tyron Lue a call,,,,,SMH
ag
November 18th, 2012
1:00 am
Big Ray, slow down brother. Marvin Williams did not start tonight!
Funny on why some are blaming JT0. He was perfect in the first quarter but earned bench time. This kid needs to play 35 minutes. Before the season started, I said a backcourt of Lou and Jeff would be great. If you don’t think so, look at what Milwaukee is doing with two point guards starting.
ag
November 18th, 2012
1:01 am
KH lost his starting job last year because he got hurt. This year, he is averaging less than 6 ppg. The Bulls should go out and sign Bibby!
High-sider
November 18th, 2012
1:04 am
Big Ray,
I meant to add “reminiscent of the Hawks vs. Bulls 2011 EC Semis (playoff series)” to my following comment: “Coach Thibodeau runnin’ two Bulls defenders at Crawford; that’s the ultimate respect.”
BTW, Marvin Williams didn’t start in tonight’s Jazz-Wizards game. The Jazz started Mo (Maurice) Williams, Randy Foye, Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap and Derrick Favors. Marvin Williams came off the bench for the Jazz and tallied 7pts, 8rebs and 1ast [also had a game high +/- of +22; go figure].
http://www.nba.com/games/20121117/UTAWAS/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021200133#nbaGIboxscore
Najeh Davenpoop
November 18th, 2012
1:17 am
I (mostly) liked Jamal as a Hawk and I’m happy for him that he is playing well, but he is not going to shoot 51% from the field and 42% from 3 all season.
Jae Evolution
November 18th, 2012
1:26 am
Bynum with ANOTHER setback. He may have injured his knees from…bowling.
I really like Bynum, but can not only the Sixers but any team afford to offer a guy like this max money…I mean just look at Greg Oden his knees were worse but a guy that plays half a season and the other half putting ice and getting numerous shots can’t be worth max money to me.
Yet in still, I know somebody out there will throw a whopping amount of cash at him and from there…it’s feast or famine.
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
1:47 am
LD needs to be held accountable for his actions just like he does to JT but he doesn’t seem to hold anyone else accountable except maybe Ivan.
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
1:48 am
In other words he sucks.
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
1:52 am
Astro joe I can’t really believe you have already forgotten how LD lost for us the celtics playoff series.
Buddy Grizzard
November 18th, 2012
1:55 am
High-Sider, out of all the former Hawks players and coaches you mentioned, I think JC1 is the only one really worth talking about, but see Najeh’s comments re: regression to the mean above. Woody is the beneficiary of the fact that Carmelo is playing out of his mind in the early going.
JJ has managed to do the same thing for Brooklyn that he did for the Hawks… elevate them from a lottery team to a middling playoff team. Does anybody besides Prokorov really believe that’s a championship contender?
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
1:57 am
JC1 is shining in LA while our coach tried to make him a PG.
High-sider
November 18th, 2012
2:20 am
^Correction: “6,7[2]0,650 X $189 = $1,270,202,850 [potential revenue from NBA League Pass in China]
6,7[2]0,650 X $179 = $1,202,996,350 [potential revenue from NBA League Pass in China]“
bad intent
November 18th, 2012
2:23 am
I only checked in because I thought the hawks had traded Al and Jeff for Al Jefferson….
oh well horford and teague are still here. Hawks are serious … Im out.
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
2:29 am
Big Ray you’ve been running these blogs and your mouth all this time. Did you stop to notice that less and less bloggers are on this site? Im not talking about how many times you troll. Im talking about legitimate bloggers.
Why dont you STFU some times. You dont know WTF you are talking about and you are running everybody away.
Please STFU.
High-sider
November 18th, 2012
2:46 am
Buddy Grizzard and Najeh Davenpoop,
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Buddy Grizzard
November 18th, 2012
1:55 am
“High-Sider, out of all the former Hawks players and coaches you mentioned, I think JC1 is the only one really worth talking about, but see Najeh’s comments re: regression to the mean above. Woody is the beneficiary of the fact that Carmelo is playing out of his mind in the early going…”
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Over/Under for Jamal Crawford at this regular season’s end (if he stays healthy)? Food for thought.
Over/Under: 20+ppg [currently @ 20.7ppg]
Over/Under: 50%+ FG% [currently @ 52.2%]
Over/Under: 40%+ 3PFG% [currently @ 44%]
Over/Under: 54%+ 2PFG% [currently @ 58.3% according to NBA.com]
Over/Under: 90%+ FT% [currently @ 91.7%]
Over/Under: A top 15 (or 20) scorer in the NBA [currently 10th in the NBA according to NBA.com]
http://www.nba.com/clippers/stats/2012
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
2:50 am
Blogger at 2:29 was not me buch I still LD sucks.
Grand Pooh Baah
November 18th, 2012
3:09 am
::) ::) ::)
Good one Rusty. Hey somebody has to tell it like it is to say whats left of this blog…. what ever happen to he the 32 page blogs.. instead of this 3 page sadness?
keith
November 18th, 2012
9:09 am
I would trade Josh Smith, Anthony tolliver, aand Zsa Zsa Paculia for Pau Gasol. The money works in this deal. Josh Smith needs a “FRESH START” and so do we!!!!
keith
November 18th, 2012
9:12 am
New Atlanta Hawks Starters:
PG-Jeff Teague
SG-Kyle Korver
SF-Ivan Johnson
PF-Al Horford
C-Pau Gasol
keith
November 18th, 2012
9:20 am
Last 6 minutes of the game these guys should be on the floor COACH LARRY DREW.
PG-Lou Williams
SG-Kyle Korver
SF-Ivan Johnson
PF-Al Horford
C-Pau Gasol
Make it happen Danny Ferry.
keith
November 18th, 2012
9:26 am
Dear Mr Ferry,
The reason we must trade Josh Smith, i am sure you realize this, is that he makes very poor decisions in the final 6 minutes of Basketball games. In an effort to improve our team, in an effort to improve our continuity, and in an effort to improve the Atlanta Hawks Basketball organization, we need to trade Josh Smith as soon as possible! We beg you.
bfk
November 18th, 2012
9:38 am
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c2t6rmb Everybody wins. Gay and Smith would be a problem
Rod from College Park
November 18th, 2012
10:37 am
“But whoever said (oh, it must have been Rod) he wouldn’t start for another team is dead wrong. He’s started every game for the Jazz far as I know. But that tells you how bad the Jazz have it. Two reasons why he’s starting.”
Another point that I will be right about. Others have pointed out the fact that he has been taken out of the starting lineup already. I know it pains you to say I was right, but give it a little time. LOL
doc
November 18th, 2012
10:38 am
high sider dont forget stack and chill in brooklyn, jc2 in dc, royal ivey where ever he is, shels still in the leaugue or law and twin in boston. nearly fell over when a broadcaster said twin got caught in the air on a fake to cause a foul. twin hadnt been in the air since ‘02.
h-s the only one doing better this year really is woody who has an unlimited payroll to work with and jc1. wo dy’s team lost composure and woody gave em a pass the other night saying they were wanting to keep their streak alive. i think that is going to come back to haunt him, really 6 games? that is nothing. that type of start is what has helped the hawks his last three years and ld’s first two, a great start to flounder a bit coming home. yup, they even lost their shine second half of the year in 53 wins. defense fell apart and he lost a signature type game against one of the best teams because kidd found him on the court to get another possession and a foul shot.
jc1 was great the first year, not so great the second. my take he may have worn out his welcome by the end of the second year at ten mil, trashing someone’s home as a renter, then wanted the same bucks without practicing or playing defense. he had a mediocre year last year. he is on a team perfect for him while quipping he learned how to work on his game this summer. he saw the hand writing on the wall either work or be out of the league. shame he didnt do it sooner when he was 10 mil a year. so what is there to say about him, he is the same mercurial jc1. love him or hate him and i did the former, but not dependable. if two guys are going at him then someone is open and he isnt finding him.
funny, so many of those guys “doing well” were whipping boys of the blog like hinrich. i wish we had stolen either him or andre miller several years ago instead of finding bibby at 18 mil a year to fill the void. killed us when it came time to find depth but got us into the second round to get embarrassed twice.
finally on woody vs ld? at a quarter of the price? who of the two has actually been able to say he has coached a team to a second round victory? they essentially had the same cast of characters. woody has shown a formula to get into the first round. now the question is can he find a formula or the coaching chops during a game to get to the ecf. if he doesnt he will have failed again.
let he season play out. 8 games into a season is a terrible marker, some early front runners are lottery by the end every year. those warts on those guys are not expunged in 8 games.
Melvin
November 18th, 2012
10:38 am
Astro Joe
November 17th, 2012
12:18 pm
Melvin, I saw the first half and about the last 18 minutes of the second half. Which is why I said that he played well in the first half. Again, I ask, how should a head coach address a TO every 4 minutes from his PG?
Melvin, back to you, I find it fairly easy to defend any head coach after a victory. That is the objective, win the game that you are playing. When I flipped back to the game in the 3rd quarter, I didn’t understand why Teague wasn’t playing. I figured I had missed a twisted ankle or something. When I saw the stats this morning, I figured the excessive TOs had something to do with it.
Astro,
You just prove my point for me. You can’t look at the box scores than make accessment about what happen. You said you watched the entire 1st half and you admit that Teague played well but did you know Teague had 4 of his 5 turnovers in 1st half? My assumption why LD took Teague out in the 3rd qtr was b/c he took a jumpshot on one possession that LD probably thought was ill advised. Astro, you are puzzled just like the rest of us who watched the entire game as to why Teague didn’t play extended mins in the 2nd half. Well maybe that last statement is not totally true, many of us believe that LD doesn’t trust Teague and you say it player development. However, I attached the play by play link so you could review the 6mins of the game that you missed….
http://www.nba.com/games/20121116/ATLSAC/gameinfo.html
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
11:07 am
Enter your comments here
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
11:14 am
Big Ray that wasn’t me, hey I love most of the hawks ,JT being my fav,didn’t like ISo Joe offense & don’t like anything about LD as a coach or man & would never waste my time blogging stupid crap.
Astro Joe
November 18th, 2012
11:30 am
Melvin, yeah, I posted that earlier. missed a few shots, made a TO.
Lou was playing extremely well after he checked into the game. I’m not buying theconspiracy theory. And I also don’t believe that how you treat player A is how you treat player B. You treat ALL players with respect but someplayers should get a longer rope than others.
Melvin
November 18th, 2012
12:01 pm
Astro,
Was playing extremely well in the 1st qtr before he was taken out. I don’t understand the treatment of Teague by LD. It seems it doesn’t matter how well he plays, LD doesn’t trust him. LD has played Jamal, Kirk, Bibby and Lou over him. I see a disturbing trend here.
Melvin
November 18th, 2012
12:30 pm
Astros,
That should’ve read, Teague was playing extremely well
Astro Joe
November 18th, 2012
12:41 pm
Melvin, LD takes Teague out around the 2:00-4:00 minute mark of the 1st quarter. Not based on his playing performance but because that is when he wants to give the guy a rest. He is fairly consistent, again, regardless of his level of performance. I think most coaches do that type of thing… have a pre-planned time when they will get starters out of the game for a rest.
I don’t get why some fans believe that a player is only subsituted in the first half because they are playing poorly, otherwise, they should play alll 24 minutes.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
November 18th, 2012
1:28 pm
I enjoy Big Ray’s posts …… If anything most of us probably haven’t gotten use to C-VIV’s pace ….. He’ll crank one up & shut one down before you know it …. But, I love it …. Big Ray, keeping doing you you’re ok in my book .
RiverHawk
November 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
SI has another story about Lakers interest in trading Smith for Gasol. I think Gasol’s contract is too much and maybe Gasol is fading, but I hope Mr. Ferry is looking at how to get a 3rd team involved to see what we could get now for Smith. It looks like he had a better game shooting against the Kings (he has been bad), but I notice that he didn’t get to the free throw line a single time. How is that possible? I notice he had 5 turnovers, leading both teams and that he took 3 three-pointers. I admit I didn’t catch this game and he shot well and had some assists, but I hate Smith’s game so far this year from the games I have seen. There is no improvement in his mid-range game and no commitment to operating in the paint and taking the ball to the rim, where he is so, so talented. Let’s get some value for him now…
Rusty
November 18th, 2012
2:23 pm
Astro Joe JT one of the youngest player in the starting lineup is the first to pulled out & the last to be put in regardless of how he is playing,don’t you think when he is playing well he should be left in. There is such a thing as riding a hot horse,he usually leaves him out so long that when he comes back its hard to pick up where you left off,not even considering what kind of crap he is ptelling him.it is pretty obvious to every one else but you who pretends that you are in la la land.How do you develope a young player without giving him big minutes especially a point guard.