Atlanta Hawks game thread: Horford, Harris out against Warriors (updated)
Vivlamore reporting from Oakland.
A stomach illness is still wreaking havoc on the Hawks’ roster during their West Coast road trip. Al Horford and Devin Harris missed Wednesday’s game against the Warriors. Both were unable to take part in the team’s morning shootaround and were declared out well before game time.
“Hopefully, both guys will be ready by Friday,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said of the final game of the trip against the Kings. “We are taking all precautions (to ensure no one else gets ill).”
Josh Smith and Lou Williams were questionable right up until game time of Monday’s victory over the Trail Blazers. Both played and scored in double figures.
There was plenty of hand sanitizer making its way around the team workout at a San Francisco health club, as the illness also hit security and media-relations personnel.
Zaza Pachulia started at center for Horford. The Hawks activated backup center Johan Petro. He has been inactive all six games this season due to a sore back. Drew said there was a possibility Petro could play behind Pachulia and Ivan Johnson.
” I think he’s had enough (practice time),” Drew said of Petro. “We wanted him to spend more time out on the court and getting up and down. He’s been with us on the trip and prior to us leaving Atlanta he got quite a bit of court time in trying to gather some conditioning.
“I’m hoping to get him some time but I’ll take a very close look at our matchups and see if it makes sense.”
Horford leads the Hawks in points scored (89) and rebounds (52) and is tied for the team lead, with Smith, in points per game average (14.8).
The other starters will be Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeShawn Stevenson and Smith.
Smith said he was feeling much better after a day of rest.
All-Star nominees
Teague joined Smith and Horford as the Hawks representatives on the All-Star ballot released by the league Tuesday. While both said they are honored by the nomination, their main concern remained the season at hand.
“I’m just worried about the season right now and finding the cohesiveness to this team,” said Smith, who has never made the All-Star team despite approaching career numbers of 10,000 points, 5,000 rebounds, 2,000 assists and more than 1,000 blocks. “I’m a firm believer that as the team succeeds I succeed. So, I’m worried about what we are doing as a team. I not worried about the All-Star team.”
Horford is a two-time All-Star as a center. He now is grouped together with other centers and forwards as the league changed the voting distinction to front-court players.
“I really don’t pay too much attention to it until that time comes around,” Teague said of his nomination. “I’m more happy for Josh and Al. I’m just happy to be part of it. … I just trying to go every game, win every game. If it happens, I’ll be grateful for it but I’m just going game by game.”
Teague entered Wednesday’s game with averages of 14.3 points, 7.2 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 1.8 steals through six games.
“I think he definitely belongs in the same breath with a lot of the point guards in the league,” Drew said. “Jeff is really is blossoming into a really good point guard. He brings a speed to the game. He can make shots. He has a good in-between game. I think it’s time that he is mentioned with some of these other point guards.”
Playing on the road
Players and coaches often talk about the team-building benefits of playing on the road. However, the Hawks could learn a more valuable lesson with this early season four-game road trip, played in six days.
Drew was concerned prior to the season that his team would learn to win in a hostile environment. They got a lesson on the first game of the trip, losing their composure late in a loss to the Clippers. The next night they were again challenged in the fourth quarter but pulled out a victory over the Blazers.
“I think it’s a good thing to go on the road this early, to experience some of these lessons to be learned early, so that we can understand and grow as a team,” Drew said. “We didn’t feel good about our performance particularly late in the third quarter and into the fourth quarter against (the Clippers). … Against Portland, the difference was we did not lose our composure. We maintained our composure.”
Etc.
The Hawks have forced 17.8 turnovers per game, fourth best in the NBA. Former Warriors coach Don Nelson, elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame, was honored in a pre-game ceremony. … The Hawks end their road trip Friday at the Kings and return home where they will play seven of their next eight games. … Several Hawks players visited the island of Alcatraz during an off day Tuesday.
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Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
6:30 pm
FIRST.
Anthony Morrow is the key to this game. Give him minutes.
Rico
November 14th, 2012
6:43 pm
I am sitting here watching the last game vs Portland and cannot understand why Larry Drew plays Anthony Toliver so much. This dude is a turnover machine and plays out of control. We should have kept Damion James! How can you lead the team in the preseason in rebouds and get cut. Maybe, just maybe, Larry Drew will be the next one to get CUT!
Additionally, WHY DRAFT ROOKIES IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PLAY THEM? Jenkins and Scott need playing time, SIT TOLIVER and let the young ones play. ALTLANTA HAWKS have a bad history of developing rookies into NBA players. Not good if we plan on being a Championship caliber team.
Rico
November 14th, 2012
6:45 pm
My bad I meant: “Rebounds” How can you lead the Team in the preseason in Rebounds and get CUT?
Sautee
November 14th, 2012
6:45 pm
FTPB:
“Will Horford suck it up and play tonight? If not, the Josh crowd will bring the rain on the blog about AL missing a game for basically the same illness….” – Melvin
But Melvin, I thought this blog was a Horford “love fest”.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
6:49 pm
I’m one of the first dudes to scream at Josh while watching this team on TV, but he played really solid basketball the other night
-Smart passes
-Hesitated and passed up jumpshots
-Made his one free throw
We need that Josh EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
Oh why am I even saying this? 8+ years in the league and we still put up with his BS each year
W.R. Terrell
November 14th, 2012
6:52 pm
Lets hope that the “Smoove” does not go crazy with that “I am a SUPERSTAR mentality” and play to his strengths which are; rebounding, blocking shots and put backs. This is the kind of game where a team can get embaressed by stupid play.
I hope Al will be able to play, I know a lot of folks are not too fond of him but he is a lunch box kind of guy. This is a game we can win with effort, smarts and hustle but it is also a game that can be lost by selfishness. LD needs to bench stupidity but that’s asking a lot from someone who has no clue.
W.R. Terrell
November 14th, 2012
6:57 pm
I would like to see the rooks play also. There is not a lot to lose by playing Jenkins and Scott but LD blew it with Jordan Crawford and almost blew it with JT. Coaching is not one of the HAWKS strong suits.
Grimey
November 14th, 2012
6:58 pm
Hey C Viv can you tell the team whatever their eating stop. 3 players with a similar sickness. Tell them goto zaza house
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
7:52 pm
Jordan Crawford never met a shot he didn’t like.
Smokey
November 14th, 2012
7:55 pm
This team has sidelined a lot of potential talent over the years, no doubt.
Morrow better get lots of PT this kid is wasted with what he is given at the moment.
Resting theory proved to be BS when LD plays Devin “injury” Harris every game and sits younger more productive players.
If we cant win today we have big problems considering the talent on this team.
prison mike
November 14th, 2012
8:55 pm
D harris wasn’t playing great to begin with. More time for Morrow and JJ hopefully.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
9:02 pm
Watching this Memphis/OKC game. Just remind me how mad I was when BK took Sheldon Williams instead of Rudy Gay. I was all in for Rudy on draft night…
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
9:03 pm
Sautee,
They will love to bash Al if he doesn’t play I can bet you that…
Rev in Tampa
November 14th, 2012
9:25 pm
Najeh, the announcers were so uninterested the game between the Wizards and Charlotte that they didn’t even notice that two different players shot the free throws. Can’t say that I blame them.
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
9:51 pm
Horford out huh? Hmmmmm……
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
9:52 pm
“But Melvin, I thought this blog was a Horford “love fest”.”
It WAS. Myself, Slim Jr. and Vava changed that.
O'Brien
November 14th, 2012
9:55 pm
Rod,
No mention of Harris missing the game too?
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:00 pm
The Warriors’ 3rd leading scorer is Carl Landry, who comes off the bench and is off to a great start this year. I hope LD comes to his senses and plays Ivan on him instead of Tolliver.
Also, with Bogut out with an injury (how shocking), we get to see more of Buddy Grizzard’s boy Festus Ezeli.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:02 pm
Can’t wait until after this game, when the Josh vs. Al debates will surely continue unabated as one side or the other will triumphantly use this one-game sample to prove that either Al or Josh sucks and the other one is indispensable.
buckhead commute
November 14th, 2012
10:02 pm
Good Luck Hawks tonight!! ..and here’s to less traffic in ATL lol !!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:03 pm
And apparently Petro is active, for the first and hopefully last time this season.
BravesFan79
November 14th, 2012
10:15 pm
Anthony Morrow will be a key player tonight in his old arena. Less Stevenson is whats needed.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
November 14th, 2012
10:19 pm
This is gonna be an interesting game. No DHarris …. possibly no AHorford ……. So we should see more of AMorrow & IJohnson ….. Let’s get er done
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:24 pm
8 games into his first season as a non-Hawk, here are Marvin’s stats per 36 minutes:
47.1% FG%, 85% FT%, 25% 3FG, 13.3 ppg, 5.3 reb, 1.1 ast, 1.1 stl, 0.9 blk, 1.6 TO
Here are Marvin’s career per-36 stats:
45.0% FG%, 80.7% FT%, 32.6% 3FG, 13.6 ppg, 6.3 reb, 1.6 ast, 0.9 stl, 0.5 blk, 1.4 TO
Still a long way to go in the season but I think it’s safe to bet against him breaking out and showing the “star potential” that the Hawks “suppressed” over the years.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:26 pm
“So here’s the question…what if neither guy is on the roster after next summer? What if one is and the other isn’t? Will “fans” of the one who leaves follow him forever?”
Haha. I’m sure many of us will, particularly in Josh’s case since he is a hometown player and has been here for so long, but neither one is the kind of transformational, superstar-caliber talent that should be considered indispensable.
O'Brien
November 14th, 2012
10:31 pm
Since Both Josh and Al are very important to the Hawks success, I dont understand why some people will bash one at the expense of the other, or feel like they have to choose.
The only one who may have to choose is Ferry.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:32 pm
I sure hope Memphis is stupid enough to put Rudy Gay on the trading block this summer and hoping Ferry be the first one on the phone with them..
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
10:32 pm
“It’s the truth…and it’s retarded…”
Ahhhhh . Little Ray thinks its retarded. Maybe we should stop. LOL
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
10:34 pm
“No mention of Harris missing the game too?”
He is out because of a pulled groin. Horford has a stomach ache.
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
10:36 pm
“Since Both Josh and Al are very important to the Hawks success, I dont understand why some people will bash one at the expense of the other, or feel like they have to choose.”
The team will have to choose. They both play the same position. Remember Horford does not want to bang with centers.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:41 pm
Please keep David Lee off the boards tonight.
bigdave
November 14th, 2012
10:42 pm
Barnes is a player who I’m intrigued by.. had an NBA game in college, reminds me of Joe.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:43 pm
Nice steal by Teague the Thief….
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:44 pm
Why did Teague stop running lane on the steal by Josh?
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:44 pm
I am not trying to say Korver is anywhere near as good as Joe, but this team’s offense would have been a lot better in previous years if Joe was as decisive in looking for his shot as Korver.
MattP
November 14th, 2012
10:47 pm
Josh is jumper happy again.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
The Charlotte Bobcats are 4-3. Last year, if I’m not mistaken, at one point they were 4-21.
cp
November 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
Josh and his jumpers
MattP
November 14th, 2012
10:49 pm
Horrible rebounding
Jae Evolution
November 14th, 2012
10:49 pm
Did Teague learn that little stop in front of the defender and yield them off with your back from Joe?
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
10:49 pm
Rocky with the cut.
cp
November 14th, 2012
10:50 pm
Korver on fire
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:50 pm
Krover is stroking it….
JC
November 14th, 2012
10:52 pm
welll i think korver has finally found his stroke in a hawks uniform lol
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:52 pm
Man, Krover is constantly moving on offense. Such a beautiful thing to see.
MattP
November 14th, 2012
10:52 pm
Zaza sent to the ocker room, now LD has to give Ivan heavy minutes. lol, nothing surprises me with LD, we need injuries so LD can give people a chance that earned it.
MattP
November 14th, 2012
10:54 pm
7 minutes and no rebounds for Smith? Hello Smith stop hanging out at the perimeter and help out on the inside.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:55 pm
BIG IVAN
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:55 pm
Nice post up by Ivan…
cp
November 14th, 2012
10:55 pm
Lol someone was telling Ivan to work his ass
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:56 pm
Ivan putting in work….
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:57 pm
Defense is suspect so far to say the least. Rotations and communication look pretty bad. They really have only made plays when the Warriors’ offense has stagnated (like Stevenson guarding Barnes on a post up).
JC
November 14th, 2012
10:57 pm
I hate that it take injuries for players to get good pt!!
Smokey
November 14th, 2012
10:57 pm
Ivan is KING
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
Early PT for Morrow….
cp
November 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
Come on Josh
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
10:59 pm
Imagine what Ivan could be if the coach played him
Jae Evolution
November 14th, 2012
10:59 pm
If only Josh had at least an Ivan reliable jumper…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
10:59 pm
I would have left Teague in there, too. He was off to a fantastic start. On pace for a triple double by the end of the 3rd quarter.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:02 pm
A Petro sighting…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:03 pm
Interior defense nonexistent on that play — coincidentally, Petro just checked in.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:03 pm
Interior defense is terrible
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:03 pm
Too many jumpers by the Hawks…
MattP
November 14th, 2012
11:04 pm
So annoying watching Warriors running a offense and Hawks running a shoot around.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:05 pm
Lou really takes a lot of bad shots
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:06 pm
Lou williams can’t create his own shot?
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:06 pm
I rather see Jenkins play the SG and Morrow at SF then having Tolliver in there…
Mokeysho
November 14th, 2012
11:07 pm
Mike Scott Sighting.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:07 pm
Warriors 11 boards (2 offensive); Hawks 8 boards (0 offensive). The Warriors coming in are 14th in the league in rebounding and on average give up more boards than they get, so they are not exactly the greatest rebounding team on Earth.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:08 pm
Lou is not a pg LD..Just play him and Teague together
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:09 pm
Of course LD leaves Petro in there and takes Ivan out. Result: one of the best bench scorers in the league gets isolated on a 2nd round rookie on his first career possession and gets a trip to the foul line.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:09 pm
OMG, Scott is getting some playing time tonight.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:10 pm
This unit on the floor is terrible
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:10 pm
Jamal Crawford just made his first three shots; this fool is goin’ crazy or shall I say J-Creezy.
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:10 pm
Better game on espn
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:10 pm
Lou running the point has not look good….
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:11 pm
Petro -7 in 3 minutes, no impact on the stat sheet other than one turnover. You cannot tell me Keith Benson would be any worse than this.
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:12 pm
Warriors’ DJ playin’ Roger Troutman and Zapp.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:13 pm
Nice shot followed by a good def by Scott…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:13 pm
Of course LD comes back out of the timeout with the same lineup.
Also, Bob might be the whitest person I have ever heard say the word “Ciroc”.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:15 pm
Good shot Scott.Yes sir Morrow…And it must be a Hawks fan behind Bob a.d Nique. Dude been yelling some funny stuff all night…Get Petro the hell out
Mokeysho
November 14th, 2012
11:17 pm
Petro is truly petrified
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:18 pm
What the hell is up with Teague’s minutes? Play the man LD
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:18 pm
Mike Scott has a nice jumper but he has been completely overmatched on D while he has been in this game.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:19 pm
Smh, Teague will be the last starter to comeback into the game again…
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:20 pm
This guy behind Bob and Nique is hilarious
MattP
November 14th, 2012
11:21 pm
What is with this coach, why do he not want to play Teague.
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:21 pm
Josh should be destroying this team…and why the hell is the warriors coach so loud
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:22 pm
This has been a pretty horrendous defensive performance all around.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:24 pm
Terrible call by Dick. Josh clearly threw that ball off of Lee…
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:25 pm
They may have to re-position the mic b/c the Fan is getting all the air time…lol
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:26 pm
Man wtf Josh smh
HueyFreeman
November 14th, 2012
11:27 pm
Lol @ guy yelling in the background
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:27 pm
Josh is playing a pretty terrible game. That last play when he got the ball 3 feet away from the hoop and backed it out to shoot a jumper was inexcusable.
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:28 pm
Jamal Crawford with 14 points in 10mins and 18secs. Can you say “Ballin”?
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:28 pm
Teague won’t get that 2009 draft class contract
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:28 pm
Barnes is a smooth player. I remember they compared him to Marvin during the draft which was totally inaccurate….
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:29 pm
Melvin that fan is killing me
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:29 pm
WHERE IS IVAN
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:30 pm
Josh continues to jack jumpers smh
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:30 pm
Korver on fire!
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:30 pm
Korver for Prez
HueyFreeman
November 14th, 2012
11:31 pm
Josh taking lots jumpshots…ugh…put a hand up on defense and don’t be scared to get a rebound. You would never know he’s had 8 years in the league. The guy yelling is getting to be more interesting than the game. “Curry better @ the 2 guard!” lmao
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:31 pm
This is probably the worst I have seen this team play on D in several years. The 2004 Hawks would be ashamed of this defense. Josh is the defensive catalyst on this team so that is primarily on him.
Spartacus
November 14th, 2012
11:32 pm
I see Josh is Jekyll & Hyde from possession to possession again. Will it ever end? SMH! I also see his buddy from College Park is still sniffing his jock, lol!
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:32 pm
The Hawks defense is terrible tonight. They are playing for the steal too much. They need to play more straight up defense and less gambling…
Mokeysho
November 14th, 2012
11:32 pm
Gimme the Hot Sauce, Kyle!…..Hawks still trail smh.
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:33 pm
“Jamal Crawford with 14 points in 10mins and 18secs. Can you say “Ballin”?”
Would you want Lou Willams for 5 mil per or Jamal Crawford for 5 mil? Hmm…….
Westurd
November 14th, 2012
11:33 pm
Dare I say Josh looks a little lost this season without Joe on the floor
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:33 pm
FIRE LD
uga-brave
November 14th, 2012
11:33 pm
8 years in the league and he still cant use his right hand or shoot free throws
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:34 pm
Imagine Kyle Korver getting all those wide open looks Marvin got. We might have been in the Finals.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:34 pm
Stevenson has the ugliest Mowhawk by far that I ever seen. And yes, that includes Mr.T…
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:34 pm
Lmfaooooo Wait all this time I thought it was the warriors coach but its a fan???
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:34 pm
Thank you Jeff
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:35 pm
I wish Al was out there instead of Josh
W.R. Terrell
November 14th, 2012
11:36 pm
So far the “Smoove” is 1 for 6 with a couple of turnovers. I’m going to bed and hope that this game does not get ugly. I feel a 4 for 18 night coming for the “Smoove”
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:36 pm
This why y’all like teague? This guy is best as a bench player to me
Spartacus
November 14th, 2012
11:37 pm
Let’s see, the Hawks without Joe and Josh…Al leads them to victory and the offense and defense plays great against one of the top teams in the league. Hawks without Joe and Al, stagnant offense that takes a lot of stupid jump shots and poor positioning on defense. Gee, I wonder what the real problem is?
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:38 pm
No call for Teague….My goodness
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:38 pm
Hawks cant defend or rebound..And Teague was clearly fouled
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:38 pm
LD, DO U COACH DEFENSE?
FIRE LAME DUCK
Jae Evolution
November 14th, 2012
11:39 pm
Sad effort in the first half to say the least.
Rev in Tampa
November 14th, 2012
11:39 pm
0 offensive rebounds for hawks in the first half!
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:39 pm
Josh made two consecutive free throws. Jamal was taken out for lack of defense. Jamal, you’re gonna have to get better on the defensive end, son.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:40 pm
Looking at this Eddie Murphy tribute and damn Martin Lawrence has gained a lot of weight
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:40 pm
After we took a 6-0 lead we went to sleep. This team just goes to sleep for long stretches EVERY SINGLE GAME
FIRE LD
FIRE SUND
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:40 pm
“Let’s see, the Hawks without Joe and Josh…Al leads them to victory and the offense and defense plays great against one of the top teams in the league. Hawks without Joe and Al, stagnant offense that takes a lot of stupid jump shots and poor positioning on defense. Gee, I wonder what the real problem is?”
You must have missed all of last season.
Rusty
November 14th, 2012
11:41 pm
Give Teague his minutes you stupid moron.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:41 pm
David Lee 7 boards, Harrison Barnes 6 boards.
Josh 3 boards, Zaza 2 boards, Hawks’ entire bench 3 boards.
Hawks are 28th in the league in rebounding entering this game. I seem to remember someone the Hawks had in training camp who was really good at rebounding.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:42 pm
15 and 7 a night from your pg looks like a good starter to me
Spartacus
November 14th, 2012
11:42 pm
“You must have missed all of last season.”
I do believe that Joe was here last season. Read the post and you will get it.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:43 pm
“This why y’all like teague? This guy is best as a bench player to me”
That was his first turnover of the game and he’s nearly on pace for a triple double. Out of all the problems for the Hawks in this game Teague is waaaaay down the list.
As much as I usually defend #5, and rightfully so, he is problem #1 in this game so far.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:43 pm
Good thing we got rid of that rebounding sf smh
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:43 pm
Rev in Tampa,
I’m showing Zaza got one offensive rebound.
http://www.nba.com/games/20121114/ATLGSW/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021200118#nbaGIboxscore
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:44 pm
Is Ivan hurt or something? He was killing it out there. Then we inexplicably threw in 4 of our worst players and gave the game away
Hope Ferry gets rid of this pathetic coach soon
Petro Scott Tolliver all in at same time. Wow
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:44 pm
“I do believe that Joe was here last season. Read the post and you will get it.”
The Hawks were 4-2 last season without Joe and Al, with wins over playoff teams Orlando, Indiana, and OKC.
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:45 pm
“I do believe that Joe was here last season. Read the post and you will get it.”
No I won’t. Again Joe missed games last year and Horford missed the whole year and we still won. So As I said, you must have missed last year.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:47 pm
Al Horford > Josh Smith
End of discussion
DS
November 14th, 2012
11:47 pm
And we thought Jamal couldn’t play d… Lou looks completely lost on d…. In fact he’s looked lost in general the past couple of games…
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:47 pm
Yea LD is terrible. Bad rotations, no defined roles, guys playing out of position.
J.J.M.
November 14th, 2012
11:49 pm
I agree its more of josh/ the whole team but I just don’t see teague agressive driving when he gets the chance. Hawks are really making this harder than it is
Rusty
November 14th, 2012
11:50 pm
Larry leisure is one hell of a lousy coach.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 14th, 2012
11:51 pm
Ivan only played 7 minutes and he’s tied for 2nd leading scorer for the Hawks in this game. He, Korver, and Teague are the only Hawks who have played well. Zaza gets a pass because he had to miss time. Josh and Lou played like hot garbage.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 14th, 2012
11:51 pm
PUT IN IVAN
DS
November 14th, 2012
11:51 pm
I wish Josh would just start playing his game instead of trying so hard to be an allstar
Harpie
November 14th, 2012
11:51 pm
Larry Drew is the worst coach in the world!!!
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:52 pm
You bloggers are straight comedy on this blog – almost as funny as “Def Comedy Jam” when Martin Lawrence was the host. [LOL]
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:52 pm
Grandmaster whats up?
Spartacus
November 14th, 2012
11:53 pm
“The Hawks were 4-2 last season without Joe and Al, with wins over playoff teams Orlando, Indiana, and OKC.”
Good point. However, can you tell me what Josh’s line were in those games? I don’t hate Josh, in fact, I think he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league if he would just play within himself. That’s what I meant by the Jekyll & Hyde. He can totally carry a team when he is playing well, however, more times than not, he plays out of control and outside of his strengths. Rod would like to have us believe that it is all the coach’s fault because the offense requires Josh to set up outside a lot of the time. I think that is bs. There are many times where you can see Josh loafing and give up on plays. No, I don’t get upset when he takes the jump shots at the end of the play clock, and last season that was the case usually when Joe was eating up the shot clock and then kicking it out at the last second. Maybe that produced bad habits for Josh, but for whatever reason, he doesn’t adjust his game when he could dominate in the post. It’s just frustrating watching him play, when if he would play as hard as Lebron, Dwayne or Kobe, he could be a difference maker in every game for the positive. However, he would rather blame the officials when things don’t go his way and take the whole team down with him.
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:55 pm
“You bloggers are straight comedy on this blog – almost as funny as “Def Comedy Jam” when Martin Lawrence was the host. [LOL]”
With this team, sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.
bigdave
November 14th, 2012
11:55 pm
Jeff showing a lot more confidence in that mid range j
Rusty
November 14th, 2012
11:56 pm
Sometimes I think LD purposely try’s to take JT out of his rhythem by taking him out for long periods of time.
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:56 pm
“Good point. However, can you tell me what Josh’s line were in those games?”
You obviously have a computer. Look it up.
Melvin
November 14th, 2012
11:56 pm
That was a nasty block by Josh
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:57 pm
A lot of bad calls
Rod from College Park
November 14th, 2012
11:57 pm
“Rod would like to have us believe that it is all the coach’s fault because the offense requires Josh to set up outside a lot of the time.”
Rod won’t have you believe anything. You are a grown man, believe what you want.
Jae Evolution
November 14th, 2012
11:58 pm
That’s the only mid-range jumpers Josh should take.
Jae Evolution
November 14th, 2012
11:59 pm
And he should never take those.
cp
November 14th, 2012
11:59 pm
How is that not an offensive foul
High-sider
November 14th, 2012
11:59 pm
@Rod from College Park
“With this team, sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.” – Rod from College Park
I hear ya, Rod. [LOL]
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:00 am
” can you tell me what Josh’s line were in those games?”
Points: 13, 22, 24, 30, 27, 23
Rebounds: 7, 12, 19, 12, 9, 6
FG%: 38%, 36%, 52%, 45%, 63%, 41%
Blocks: 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 1
Assists: 3, 1, 4, 4, 2, 2
Turnovers: 4, 4, 5, 5, 1, 1
He stuffed the stat sheet and wasn’t particularly efficient for a PF. Basically what you would expect out of a talented player who isn’t good enough to be the #1 option on a title contender.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:00 am
Offense and defense look like horse manure.
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:01 am
The Warriors are playing with more energy, effort, hustle and heart than the Hawks….
J.J.M.
November 15th, 2012
12:01 am
Wooooow hawks have body language like they don’t want to be there
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:01 am
It’s one thing to give Klay Thompson a wide open 3 but how the hell do you just let Barnes swoop in for the follow dunk when there are 3 Hawks standing in the paint watching? That is pretty pathetic. This team needs to get its head out of its ass on the boards or they are going to be hanging around .500 all season.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:01 am
Guys just standing around watching. Can we please get a legit sf in here
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
12:01 am
Stevenson and Korver didn’t box out on that rebound and dunk by Harrison Barnes.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:02 am
Barnes has 9 rebounds already. His season high coming in was 5.
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:03 am
“Offense and defense look like horse manure.”
I’m sure if Al were playing the offense would look much better.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:03 am
Man get Stevenson out
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:03 am
Josh and Zaza must have cement blocks in their shoes. JUMP and get a rebound, damn! It’s not THAT hard to put a body on someone. D-UP!!
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:04 am
Take Stevenson and ZaZa out
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:04 am
Look at this Wed crowd for the freaking Warriors. We get crowds like this for Heat games
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:04 am
“Basically what you would expect out of a talented player who isn’t good enough to be the #1 option on a title contender.”
Thanks for getting those stats. Impressive numbers, but maddening as well. I’m sure outside jumpers killed his field goal % and the turnovers more than likely came when he tried to act like a point guard. Like I said, I believe the only thing that keeps him from perennial all-star status is his decision making and consistent effort. It’s really unfortunate.
J.J.M.
November 15th, 2012
12:05 am
I can’t watch anymore…stephensn is pure garbage
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:05 am
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:03 am
“Offense and defense look like horse manure.”
I’m sure if Al were playing the offense would look much better.
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Yeah since Josh has been so brilliant out there
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:06 am
Finally we get a camera shot to match a face to the voice of the loud ass fan behind the bench.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:06 am
More jumpers for Josh..still cant rebound.. and after Ivan plays well he cant get back in
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:07 am
Why can’t we get Josh in the paint? We need efficient scoring and all of these stupid outside jumpers (unless it’s KK) are a complete joke.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:07 am
Danger zone for the Hawks. They are on the brink of getting blown out right now.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:09 am
Josh acts like a petulant child
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:09 am
Lmao@this fan
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:09 am
Warriors are turning it over and missing open shots and the Hawks can’t capitalize. If they start making some shots this game is going to end very quickly.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:09 am
Where the hell is the offense? We’re playing the freaking WARRIORS
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:10 am
Dude is worse than the lil girl shouting “let’s go Pirates” at the Braves game that time…
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:10 am
Nice fast break Josh
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:10 am
Josh trying to be Steve Nash again…SMH!
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:10 am
Give the damn pg the ball Josh it aint difficult
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:10 am
Just a sloppy 3rd qtr by the Hawks. They are not in sync at all…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:10 am
bigdave, NOBODY is worse than that girl.
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:11 am
BigDave,
I never would want to hurt a child, but that little girl at the Braves game made me want to beat her parents with a freaking hammer!
Westurd
November 15th, 2012
12:12 am
The people demand IVAN!
Westurd
November 15th, 2012
12:13 am
Thank you
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:14 am
Is this the first time Teague and Lou have played together all season?
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:14 am
Teague has 3 airballs tonight
Tremaine
November 15th, 2012
12:15 am
Fire LD!
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:15 am
Lol..
She did set the standard.
JC
November 15th, 2012
12:15 am
It look like everybody is out there for THERESELF!!! luckily the D is somewhat good
Jae Evolution
November 15th, 2012
12:15 am
Lou telling Josh stop crying and play some damn ball.
J.J.M.
November 15th, 2012
12:15 am
Airball though?
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:16 am
Atlanta has 0 second chance points in the game.
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:16 am
I think the only offense the Hawks play when Lou is on the floor is the iso. Why not continue to run the offense and let Lou get his shots within the offense instead of forcing everything?
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:16 am
Morrow gets hit on the 3, no call. Hawks have played like sh-t and shouldn’t be pointing fingers at anyone else, but the refs haven’t exactly helped.
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:17 am
Lol you can think it was an accident if you want..
ntrigue
November 15th, 2012
12:17 am
Ivan should’ve been in checking Barnes! And stop shooting all these 3s that goes for everybody!
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:17 am
Ivan is a beast
Blodus
November 15th, 2012
12:17 am
Shoot the J, J!!!
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:18 am
Fire LD. This is hard to watch defensively. Looks like Greens got a concussion.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:18 am
Hawks are lucky to be in this game
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:18 am
LD needs to give Jenkins a try tonight. Since no one else can seem to get it going in the 2nd half…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:18 am
44 of the Hawks’ 55 shot attempts have come from outside the paint. The Warriors are not that good of a rim defending team. The ball has to go inside somehow, either on post ups or pick and rolls or something.
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:19 am
A wonder as to what ole Ivan would be doing if he wasn’t hooping
northcyde
November 15th, 2012
12:19 am
That’s how you know Ivan is a bad azz. He wasn’t even trying to hurt dude, and he got hurt.
He’s the enforcer that this team desperately needs at times.
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:19 am
Ivan with the “Did I do that?”…Urkal style!
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:20 am
Nique said the Hawks should win this game easily before the game. LOL
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:20 am
Can’t even run an offense on this mediocre team. Going to sleep. Work in 7 hrs. F this
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:21 am
This is nearly as unwatchable as the last time these two teams played.
ntrigue
November 15th, 2012
12:21 am
Drew could put a stop to this madness and call plays for josh or whoever in the paint!
ntrigue
November 15th, 2012
12:22 am
Left Stevenson in too long!
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:22 am
When you don’t have a go to guy, you need coaching; and maybe a few more guys who slash/handle vs spot up shooters.
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:22 am
“44 of the Hawks’ 55 shot attempts have come from outside the paint. The Warriors are not that good of a rim defending team. The ball has to go inside somehow, either on post ups or pick and rolls or something.”
Amazing.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
November 15th, 2012
12:23 am
Maybe instead of everyone farting around yesterday in SF we should have actually prepared for this game
Just like the day before season opener vs HOU, ZaZa said we hadn’t discussed game plan yet
All this and Curry hasn’t done ish
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:24 am
Iso-Lou isn’t any better than Iso-anyone else who has played for this team the last 8 years.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:26 am
The fan is the rapper Mr Fab
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:26 am
is that LD’s first tech as a head coach?
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:26 am
What’s scary is it looks like Lou can’t go left.
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:27 am
“This guy behind me would give an aspirin a headache!”…Classic!
Best line of the year by Steve..hilarious!
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:27 am
Ferry needs to go acquire or sign a SF. Hawks clearly needs one…
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:27 am
LD is an idiot.
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:27 am
Ivan Johnson is on a 6-0 run….
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:28 am
ivan putting the team on his back!!!
michael
November 15th, 2012
12:28 am
gotta love ivan
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
12:28 am
Ivan is hoopin’; LD, you’re an idiot for not playing him. smh
ntrigue
November 15th, 2012
12:28 am
No way ivan only has played in first and 4th qtr terrible coaching job Drew!
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:30 am
“Iso-Lou isn’t any better than Iso-anyone else who has played for this team the last 8 years.”
Won’t say I told you so, but I did. What did you think about Lou’s defense?
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:30 am
LD stood up for Ivan with the T, so Ivan is responding. Just like that Blindside movie. LD is Ivan’s father-figure.
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:31 am
I’m certain many on this blog could coach better than LD…why not play Ivan more 20+MPG. Hopefully he coaches himself out of a job before too long so we can get a no-nonsense, defense-first coach.
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:31 am
WTF is TOlliver in the game for?
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:31 am
Tolliver does nothing
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:32 am
WTF Lou, that was a Marvin-esque miss on that layup…
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:32 am
Take Tolliver out…
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:33 am
Lol Steph you suck
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:34 am
That fan is getting annoying.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:34 am
Lou had Josh on the alley oop on that fast break and missed him.
Mistah FAB seems pretty p-ssed that Barnes isn’t getting the ball more.
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:34 am
Lou always trying to get back to that right hand..
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:34 am
Get Lou out
Rusty
November 15th, 2012
12:35 am
Play Ivan & morrow,you MF.
Jae Evolution
November 15th, 2012
12:35 am
Stop trying to make Lou a PG, he should be pure buckets getter off the bench.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:35 am
Lou making some astonishingly dumb plays that happen to be working right now. There was no Hawk within 10 feet of the basket on that last mid-range shot he jacked up… good thing it went in.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:35 am
He hits a shot as soon as i say that
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:36 am
Ok, Lou did his job. Put Teague back in now…
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:36 am
I see the same thing bigdave.
Tremaine
November 15th, 2012
12:36 am
So Teague is done for the night?
Mike
November 15th, 2012
12:36 am
Lou, please stop. Feed it to Johnson and Korver – they are the only guys who showed up to play tonight.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:37 am
Smh then turns it over.LD Lou is not a damn pg
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:38 am
Korver is so active on offense. Wish he was a solid defender so Stephenson didn’t have to get as many minutes. Crunch time, lets go. Wonder how long Teague rides the pine in the 4th
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:39 am
I guess no more Teague
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:39 am
I swear LD doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. Take Lou out and put Teague back in the game before it’s too late..
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:39 am
Hawks are playing street ball and getting owned
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:40 am
I get the feeling the offense is going to stall eventually as Lou cools off. I’d rather have Teague in the game right now. Offense flows better with Teague.
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:40 am
Josh that’s all day sir.. drive strong left and jump. Finish or get fouled.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:41 am
Josh 4/4 FTs tonight. Good sign in an otherwise bad game.
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:41 am
*Lights blunt*
Tremaine
November 15th, 2012
12:41 am
Good pass Josh.
MattP
November 15th, 2012
12:41 am
watch Ivan will get a DNP next game. lol
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:42 am
How do you not play this guy 28 mins?
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:42 am
And there is the inevitable horrendous miss by Lou
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:42 am
Really Lou smh
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:42 am
keep feeding ivan, especially with landry on him. landry has five fouls
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
12:42 am
WE WANT TEAGUE. Lou is not the PG
Jae Evolution
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
They are giving us this game…
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
How many mistakes does Lou have to make before you put Teague back in
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
Gotdamn LD get Lou the hell out the game
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
Hawks had 3 chances on that possession and Lou blew all 3 of them. Teague needs to be in this game.
MattP
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
Wow at Lou, what is he doing.
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
Now we see why Philly let Lou go. No defense and out of control on offense. Put JT back in!
Westurd
November 15th, 2012
12:43 am
Why is our PG not on the floor? It’s maddening
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:44 am
ivan with the hustle rebound, but lou just hands it back to warriors.
Mokeysho
November 15th, 2012
12:44 am
Get Teague back in there….It may already be too late!
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:44 am
DF its time to get rid of Drew. I wont be able to take a whole season of this
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:45 am
Lou and Josh on the floor at the same time almost guarantees a turnover 3 out of 5 times down the court.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:45 am
Ivan is the Hawks’ leading scorer tonight with 15 points. He has only played 14 minutes.
ntrigue
November 15th, 2012
12:45 am
Morrow should be taking Deshawn mins tonite…bad coaching Drew!
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:46 am
Where do we go for a hoop..
Let’s see where LD’s head is
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:46 am
Of course LD leaves Lou in.
Mike
November 15th, 2012
12:47 am
Lou Williams is actually straight up losing this game for the Hawks right now!
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:47 am
I just don’t understand why we can’t just play through Josh on the block. He’s out most talented player and when he is on the block, the game opens up for everyone, especially KK on the wing for open shots. Put JT, KK and Morrow on the floor and post up Josh and let him go to work. It really isn’t that difficult.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:47 am
And Lou once again.Man im done
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:47 am
Of course Lou jacks up a horrible 3 that barely draws iron.
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:47 am
You don’t hear Ivan complaining about playing against bigger guys. Went out there and got the job done.
lewis
November 15th, 2012
12:47 am
LD IS ROBBING TEAGUES MANHOOD HOW CAN YOU NOT LET YOUR UP AND COMING STARTING POINT GUARD FINISH GAMES IN THIS LEAGUE
J.J.M.
November 15th, 2012
12:48 am
See what happens when you drive…drew is a horrible coach sticking with lou
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:48 am
Once again LD is an idiot
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:48 am
Stupid me. I thought LD called a Timeout to get Teague back in.
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:48 am
No Teague after the timeout. Can we leave LD in Cali after this road trip…
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:48 am
Fire LD
Mike
November 15th, 2012
12:49 am
Josh trying to play superman now. It’s over man. It’s just freaking over.
Fire that Moron
November 15th, 2012
12:49 am
Another loss that falls squarely on LD’s shoulders.
MattP
November 15th, 2012
12:49 am
Still no Teague?
Tremaine
November 15th, 2012
12:49 am
Hero ball sucks!
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:49 am
Get us a real coach. This is pathetic
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:50 am
Good things happen when your big men move towards the basket. Ivan is keeping the Hawks in this game.
Rev in Tampa
November 15th, 2012
12:50 am
From C-Viv’s gamethread article
“I think he definitely belongs in the same breath with a lot of the point guards in the league,” Drew said. “Jeff is really is blossoming into a really good point guard. He brings a speed to the game. He can make shots. He has a good in-between game. I think it’s time that he is mentioned with some of these other point guards.”
I call BS
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:50 am
Needed Ivan to finish that dunk
Spartacus
November 15th, 2012
12:50 am
How Ivan doesn’t play 25-30 minutes per game is beyond me. He plays much bigger than he is and works his tail off.
Harpie
November 15th, 2012
12:51 am
Fire that piece -of -crap coach!
Jae Evolution
November 15th, 2012
12:51 am
Ball game.
J.J.M.
November 15th, 2012
12:51 am
If only the hawks had a player who could drive the ball.
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:52 am
I had a feeling we were not going to beat GSW and Sac but I thought it would be Sac who we lose to…
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:52 am
Korver, Ivan, Zaza, and Mike Scott (on one FG attempt) are the only Hawks shooting 50% or better for the game. The rest of the team: 4/12, 5/15, 3/9, 2/10, 1/5, 0/3. Ugly.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:52 am
How do you get out coached by Mark ” hand down man down” Jackson.. LD is clueless
michael
November 15th, 2012
12:52 am
should have put jeff back in earlier
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:53 am
LD simply doesn’t believe in Jeffs ability to make shots..
BravesFan79
November 15th, 2012
12:53 am
I wasnt a coach hater last year, but him playing Stevenson over Morrow this game has me thinking hes not the right coach for the Hawks.
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:54 am
By the way, Jamal has 16 points on 5/6 shooting in 16 minutes against the Heat.
Mokeysho
November 15th, 2012
12:54 am
werd yrral erif
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:55 am
Lou take it and then he gives it back….
Mike
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
LD better have the greatest excuse in the world as to why Lou is in instead of Teague right now. I’m about to lose it.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
Mark Jackson doesnt even draw up plays
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
The Hawks are 9/18 in the paint and 23/57 outside the paint in this game.
kwooden1
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
We definitely don’t deserve to win this game, with this terrible shooting, but the Warriors just can’t stop turning the ball over.
bigdave
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
Big time shot then
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
2 big 3’s by Lou….
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:56 am
That was the ultimate Jamal shot.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:57 am
Lol now he hits shots
kwooden1
November 15th, 2012
12:57 am
HUGH 3 by Lou!
Mike
November 15th, 2012
12:57 am
Stop Bob, it’s not a 4th quarter explosion. 6 of those 9 points came in the last 40 seconds. Lou has single handedly lost the Hawks this gmae.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:57 am
Holy sh-t, Ivan just smiled.
Mokeysho
November 15th, 2012
12:58 am
Lou tryin to wake up from the dead
Fire that Moron
November 15th, 2012
12:58 am
Teague ZERO minutes in the 4th. Can we get an answer for this garbage?
Mike
November 15th, 2012
12:58 am
Fitting that we lose this one on an offensive rebound.
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
12:58 am
Great D by Ivan. As usual, nobody gets the rebound.
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
12:59 am
Ivan has played a great game tonight.
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
12:59 am
Ivan didn’t box out on that long rebound…
Jae Evolution
November 15th, 2012
12:59 am
Such…a sad…effort.
cp
November 15th, 2012
12:59 am
Well thats game
kwooden1
November 15th, 2012
1:00 am
Can’t get the long rebound, story of this game!!
Najeh Davenpoop
November 15th, 2012
1:02 am
Well, that was ugly.
Mike
November 15th, 2012
1:03 am
Lou Williams – COMPLETE LOSER. How do you win by that much in turnovers and lose this game!? BAFFLES ME!
michael
November 15th, 2012
1:03 am
please for the love of basketball fire drew!!!!!!!!!!
Melvin
November 15th, 2012
1:03 am
Hawks had no business losing this game. They better steal another road game against an elite team to make up for this lost….
HueyFreeman
November 15th, 2012
1:03 am
Fire LD. Your rotations make no sense. You play scrubs like Tolliver consistently. You don’t hold your guys accountable on defense, rebounding, or effort. This was a winnable game against GSW (w/o Bogut). You have exposed yourself as a sad excuse of a coach countless times. I hope you enjoy yourself which you can, you are not fit to coach 6th grade girl’s basketball, let alone NBA basketball. /rant, *relights blunt*
cp
November 15th, 2012
1:05 am
I hope Ferry has a plan for a coach..Even Stotts didnt frustrate me as much as LD does.
ClassicHawks
November 15th, 2012
1:06 am
We missed Al’s Leadership tonight. This team is lost without him. LD has got to do better job of plays coming out of the timeout. This team must move the ball. LD is doing a bad job so far this season. Last season he had Joe to bail hin out.
ATLien
November 15th, 2012
1:07 am
Please fire Larry Drew. If I were JT, I’d be requesting a trade after now twice being benched for the entire 4th quarter. He should be playing 35mpg, not the 25 this moron wants to give him.
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
1:07 am
The Cippers are a problem
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:07 am
LD did not make any sub slast several minutes, which is inexcusable. Players simply got tired, He had to sub Lou with Teague, this was obvious. Based solely on this game, LD should not be HC on any team…
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
1:07 am
Clippers
cp
November 15th, 2012
1:11 am
I dont want Mike Brown but im tired of LD. DF get us a real coach and a sf in here ASAP
Rod from College Park
November 15th, 2012
1:12 am
Darnell Mayberry @DarnellMayberry
After getting ejected in the 4th quarter, Kendrick Perkins & Zach Randolph had an altercation near the locker rooms. Police investigating.
kwooden1
November 15th, 2012
1:12 am
No consistent post presents all night! Ivan played as he always does, just played a lot more minutes than usual. I didn’t think we would miss Horford that much, but his post play would have been a major help. Jeff really struggle in the 3rd and LD went with Lou to finish the game, which was the right move. Hopefully Jeff will bounce back and keep trying to get to his floater.
GO HAWKS!!
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:13 am
I do not want Brown either. Just appoint any assistant coach instead of LD, would be much better.
cp
November 15th, 2012
1:14 am
sameba I fear thats who will replace LD. I want no parts of Mike Brown as coach.
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
1:14 am
Don’t feel bad Hawks fans; the Warriors beat the Clippers in LA.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:17 am
I got impreesion that not only Horford, but lot’s of other guys got food poisoned…
kwooden1
November 15th, 2012
1:20 am
Just an aside, this game is an example of why I don’t like Korver playing a lot of minute or really even being on the team. The HAWKS wasted most of the 4th quarter offensive possessions trying to get Korver open for a 3 opposed to trying to get the ball inside to Josh! On the defensive end Korver was getting beat off the dribble consistently whoever was guarding him and really didn’t help on the boards. I think Korver has played well this season, but I just don’t like how one dimensional he is, especially as a starter!
GO HAWKS!
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:21 am
Well, if Brown comes to Atlanta, that will be the end of the hopr for Hawks.
Rusty
November 15th, 2012
1:21 am
There is only one person I hate in the whole NBA & that is our stupid moron of a coach who has no brains. This team is going nowhere but down with this moron in charge.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:22 am
^hope
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
1:22 am
Clippers cool of [the] Heat, 107 -100
Jamal Crawford – 22pts, 2rebs, 1ast, 3stls and 6trnvrs in 23:37 (Crawford led the Clippers in scoring.)
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:24 am
I thought it was a good time to test Jenkins…
Rusty
November 15th, 2012
1:25 am
The hawks offense looks pitiful so much for LD’s Princeton offense,it is a mess looks like one on one
Ido play.
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
1:25 am
Jamal Crawford can add more highlights to some more of his YouTube videos from this game.
BravesFan79
November 15th, 2012
1:25 am
Does anyone on here defend Stevenson getting more minutes than Morrow? I really dont see much evidence of how DS greatly improves the defense, and i damn sure don’t see him making any jump shots! But he sure does shoot them with the confidence of Reggie Miller. DS and JS… killing the Hawks 1 long brick at a time.
cp
November 15th, 2012
1:30 am
LD is making the same mistake with Lou that he did with Jamal, playing him at the point. I wish we could get a real coach in here. Im sick of his rotations, no defined roles for players, rewarding guys who dont play well with more minutes, then giving guys who do play well less minutes. And what type of offense do we run? I knew this was going to be a frustrating season but LD is making it a lot worse than need be.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:30 am
BravesFan79, There are many scrubs on the team. Their play is mostly pathetic. For this reason I think it is better to test Scott and especially Jenkins, giving them some pt.
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
1:30 am
“Jamal Crawford is a difficult cover.” – Jeff Van Gundy
He [JVG] should know. He [JVG] saw what Crawford did to his brother [Stan Van Gundy] and the Magic in the first round of the 2011 playoffs. ASG, you stupid (in my “Tommy” voice from the Martin Lawrence Show).
BravesFan79
November 15th, 2012
1:33 am
Good to see J Crawford going off against the Heat, dudes one of my favorite players in the league. I feel like we have a mini-Crawford in Morrow, but dosent seem like Drew is gonna give him a chance, despite the fact Stevenson blows.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:34 am
Now it appears the PG position is also a weakness. We already know Lou is not PG, I was thinking about Jennings, he is a FA next season…
cp
November 15th, 2012
1:36 am
I dont think pg is a weakness The coach doesn’t seem to like playing the one we have. No reason Teague should be playing less than 30 minutes a game.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:40 am
And if something happens with Teague, what to do then? PG is the most important role, in my opinion. Two good PG’s will not hurt.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:44 am
Also, Teague cannot play 48 mins…
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:45 am
^48 mins of uptempo game
cp
November 15th, 2012
1:45 am
Good point. Harris has been a real disappointment when he has played and LD is determined to play Lou at the point anyway. Even if we had another pg in here I have no idea what LD would do with him.
soullrenaissance
November 15th, 2012
1:47 am
Lame Duck sucks. I hope Bob Wiess is not his replacement. I thought D’Antoni would be good with this bunch but not if we got D12.
sameba
November 15th, 2012
1:48 am
I do hope LD will not be HC next year, as the latest…
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
1:48 am
BravesFan79,
The “mini-Crawford” is supposed to be Lou Williams. You didn’t get the memo?
30311
November 15th, 2012
1:50 am
I read all the post about what Danny Ferry needs to get a winner here. But, when I take an in-depth look into DF’s draft history, trades and free agent acquisitions, I’m NOT impressed! Let’s. Not forget the only reason why he and Mike Brown won and won big in Cleveland was they had Lebron. Make no mistake about that! We shall see! But according to his history, nothing really wows me!
Rusty
November 15th, 2012
1:52 am
If I were JT I would be out of here next year.LD constantly craps on him
Harpie
November 15th, 2012
2:03 am
I used to care a lot about the Hawks; but, until they get rid of that stinking coach, I am over this team…
sameba
November 15th, 2012
2:05 am
Much depends on PG. Today our PG did not play well, and you see the result. Team was sleepy, players had difficulties in finding their respective roles, no one could drive to the basket, there were lots of drives to our paint etc… One remembers what J.Smith said about win in OKC – he called Teague a head of snake, and attributed the win with his excellent play. So here we are, we need at least two good PG’s to be competitive.
High-sider
November 15th, 2012
2:06 am
I know you [Hawks fans and bloggers] didn’t expect the Hawks to make the playoffs this season; did you? This [season] is supposed to be a rebuilding year. I thought you knew that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE
sameba
November 15th, 2012
2:13 am
High-sider
…This [season] is supposed to be a rebuilding year. I thought you knew that…
Did D.Ferry say that?
sameba
November 15th, 2012
2:28 am
Petro should not be playing even a few seconds in the game. His play was a disaster for the team. And for Tolliver only 2-3 minutes should be allowed
sameba
November 15th, 2012
2:30 am
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