Atlanta Hawks game thread: Horford, Harris out against Warriors (updated)

Vivlamore reporting from Oakland.

A stomach illness is still wreaking havoc on the Hawks’ roster during their West Coast road trip. Al Horford and Devin Harris missed Wednesday’s game against the Warriors. Both were unable to take part in the team’s morning shootaround and were declared out well before game time.

“Hopefully, both guys will be ready by Friday,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said of the final game of the trip against the Kings. “We are taking all precautions (to ensure no one else gets ill).”

Josh Smith and Lou Williams were questionable right up until game time of Monday’s victory over the Trail Blazers. Both played and scored in double figures.

There was plenty of hand sanitizer making its way around the team workout at a San Francisco health club, as the illness also hit security and media-relations personnel.

Zaza Pachulia started at center for Horford. The Hawks activated backup center Johan Petro. He has been inactive all six games this season due to a sore back. Drew said there was a possibility Petro could play behind Pachulia and Ivan Johnson.

” I think he’s had enough (practice time),” Drew said of Petro. “We wanted him to spend more time out on the court and getting up and down. He’s been with us on the trip and prior to us leaving Atlanta he got quite a bit of court time in trying to gather some conditioning.

“I’m hoping to get him some time but I’ll take a very close look at our matchups and see if it makes sense.”

Horford leads the Hawks in points scored (89) and rebounds (52) and is tied for the team lead, with Smith, in points per game average (14.8).

The other starters will be Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeShawn Stevenson and Smith.

Smith said he was feeling much better after a day of rest.

All-Star nominees

Teague joined Smith and Horford as the Hawks representatives on the All-Star ballot released by the league Tuesday. While both said they are honored by the nomination, their main concern remained the season at hand.

“I’m just worried about the season right now and finding the cohesiveness to this team,” said Smith, who has never made the All-Star team despite approaching career numbers of 10,000 points, 5,000 rebounds, 2,000 assists and more than 1,000 blocks. “I’m a firm believer that as the team succeeds I succeed. So, I’m worried about what we are doing as a team. I not worried about the All-Star team.”

Horford is a two-time All-Star as a center. He now is grouped together with other centers and forwards as the league changed the voting distinction to front-court players.

“I really don’t pay too much attention to it until that time comes around,” Teague said of his nomination. “I’m more happy for Josh and Al. I’m just happy to be part of it. … I just trying to go every game, win every game. If it happens, I’ll be grateful for it but I’m just going game by game.”

Teague entered Wednesday’s game with averages of 14.3 points, 7.2 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 1.8 steals through six games.

“I think he definitely belongs in the same breath with a lot of the point guards in the league,” Drew said. “Jeff is really is blossoming into a really good point guard. He brings a speed to the game. He can make shots. He has a good in-between game. I think it’s time that he is mentioned with some of these other point guards.”

Playing on the road

Players and coaches often talk about the team-building benefits of playing on the road. However, the Hawks could learn a more valuable lesson with this early season four-game road trip, played in six days.

Drew was concerned prior to the season that his team would learn to win in a hostile environment. They got a lesson on the first game of the trip, losing their composure late in a loss to the Clippers. The next night they were again challenged in the fourth quarter but pulled out a victory over the Blazers.

“I think it’s a good thing to go on the road this early, to experience some of these lessons to be learned early, so that we can understand and grow as a team,” Drew said. “We didn’t feel good about our performance particularly late in the third quarter and into the fourth quarter against (the Clippers). … Against Portland, the difference was we did not lose our composure. We maintained our composure.”

Etc.

The Hawks have forced 17.8 turnovers per game, fourth best in the NBA. Former Warriors coach Don Nelson, elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame, was honored in a pre-game ceremony. … The Hawks end their road trip Friday at the Kings and return home where they will play seven of their next eight games. … Several Hawks players visited the island of Alcatraz during an off day Tuesday.

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Rod from College Park

November 15th, 2012
1:12 am

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry

After getting ejected in the 4th quarter, Kendrick Perkins & Zach Randolph had an altercation near the locker rooms. Police investigating.

kwooden1

November 15th, 2012
1:12 am

No consistent post presents all night! Ivan played as he always does, just played a lot more minutes than usual. I didn’t think we would miss Horford that much, but his post play would have been a major help. Jeff really struggle in the 3rd and LD went with Lou to finish the game, which was the right move. Hopefully Jeff will bounce back and keep trying to get to his floater.

GO HAWKS!!

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:13 am

I do not want Brown either. Just appoint any assistant coach instead of LD, would be much better.

cp

November 15th, 2012
1:14 am

sameba I fear thats who will replace LD. I want no parts of Mike Brown as coach.

High-sider

November 15th, 2012
1:14 am

Don’t feel bad Hawks fans; the Warriors beat the Clippers in LA.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:17 am

I got impreesion that not only Horford, but lot’s of other guys got food poisoned…

kwooden1

November 15th, 2012
1:20 am

Just an aside, this game is an example of why I don’t like Korver playing a lot of minute or really even being on the team. The HAWKS wasted most of the 4th quarter offensive possessions trying to get Korver open for a 3 opposed to trying to get the ball inside to Josh! On the defensive end Korver was getting beat off the dribble consistently whoever was guarding him and really didn’t help on the boards. I think Korver has played well this season, but I just don’t like how one dimensional he is, especially as a starter!

GO HAWKS!

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:21 am

Well, if Brown comes to Atlanta, that will be the end of the hopr for Hawks.

Rusty

November 15th, 2012
1:21 am

There is only one person I hate in the whole NBA & that is our stupid moron of a coach who has no brains. This team is going nowhere but down with this moron in charge.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:22 am

High-sider

November 15th, 2012
1:22 am

Clippers cool of [the] Heat, 107 -100

Jamal Crawford – 22pts, 2rebs, 1ast, 3stls and 6trnvrs in 23:37 (Crawford led the Clippers in scoring.)

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:24 am

I thought it was a good time to test Jenkins…

Rusty

November 15th, 2012
1:25 am

The hawks offense looks pitiful so much for LD’s Princeton offense,it is a mess looks like one on one
Ido play.

High-sider

November 15th, 2012
1:25 am

Jamal Crawford can add more highlights to some more of his YouTube videos from this game.

BravesFan79

November 15th, 2012
1:25 am

Does anyone on here defend Stevenson getting more minutes than Morrow? I really dont see much evidence of how DS greatly improves the defense, and i damn sure don’t see him making any jump shots! But he sure does shoot them with the confidence of Reggie Miller. DS and JS… killing the Hawks 1 long brick at a time.

cp

November 15th, 2012
1:30 am

LD is making the same mistake with Lou that he did with Jamal, playing him at the point. I wish we could get a real coach in here. Im sick of his rotations, no defined roles for players, rewarding guys who dont play well with more minutes, then giving guys who do play well less minutes. And what type of offense do we run? I knew this was going to be a frustrating season but LD is making it a lot worse than need be.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:30 am

BravesFan79, There are many scrubs on the team. Their play is mostly pathetic. For this reason I think it is better to test Scott and especially Jenkins, giving them some pt.

High-sider

November 15th, 2012
1:30 am

“Jamal Crawford is a difficult cover.” – Jeff Van Gundy

He [JVG] should know. He [JVG] saw what Crawford did to his brother [Stan Van Gundy] and the Magic in the first round of the 2011 playoffs. ASG, you stupid (in my “Tommy” voice from the Martin Lawrence Show).

BravesFan79

November 15th, 2012
1:33 am

Good to see J Crawford going off against the Heat, dudes one of my favorite players in the league. I feel like we have a mini-Crawford in Morrow, but dosent seem like Drew is gonna give him a chance, despite the fact Stevenson blows.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:34 am

Now it appears the PG position is also a weakness. We already know Lou is not PG, I was thinking about Jennings, he is a FA next season…

cp

November 15th, 2012
1:36 am

I dont think pg is a weakness The coach doesn’t seem to like playing the one we have. No reason Teague should be playing less than 30 minutes a game.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:40 am

And if something happens with Teague, what to do then? PG is the most important role, in my opinion. Two good PG’s will not hurt.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:44 am

Also, Teague cannot play 48 mins…

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:45 am

^48 mins of uptempo game

cp

November 15th, 2012
1:45 am

Good point. Harris has been a real disappointment when he has played and LD is determined to play Lou at the point anyway. Even if we had another pg in here I have no idea what LD would do with him.

soullrenaissance

November 15th, 2012
1:47 am

Lame Duck sucks. I hope Bob Wiess is not his replacement. I thought D’Antoni would be good with this bunch but not if we got D12.

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:48 am

I do hope LD will not be HC next year, as the latest…

High-sider

November 15th, 2012
1:48 am

BravesFan79,

The “mini-Crawford” is supposed to be Lou Williams. You didn’t get the memo?

30311

November 15th, 2012
1:50 am

I read all the post about what Danny Ferry needs to get a winner here. But, when I take an in-depth look into DF’s draft history, trades and free agent acquisitions, I’m NOT impressed! Let’s. Not forget the only reason why he and Mike Brown won and won big in Cleveland was they had Lebron. Make no mistake about that! We shall see! But according to his history, nothing really wows me!

Rusty

November 15th, 2012
1:52 am

If I were JT I would be out of here next year.LD constantly craps on him

Harpie

November 15th, 2012
2:03 am

I used to care a lot about the Hawks; but, until they get rid of that stinking coach, I am over this team…

sameba

November 15th, 2012
2:05 am

Much depends on PG. Today our PG did not play well, and you see the result. Team was sleepy, players had difficulties in finding their respective roles, no one could drive to the basket, there were lots of drives to our paint etc… One remembers what J.Smith said about win in OKC – he called Teague a head of snake, and attributed the win with his excellent play. So here we are, we need at least two good PG’s to be competitive.

High-sider

November 15th, 2012
2:06 am

I know you [Hawks fans and bloggers] didn’t expect the Hawks to make the playoffs this season; did you? This [season] is supposed to be a rebuilding year. I thought you knew that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE

sameba

November 15th, 2012
2:13 am

High-sider
…This [season] is supposed to be a rebuilding year. I thought you knew that…

Did D.Ferry say that?

sameba

November 15th, 2012
2:28 am

Petro should not be playing even a few seconds in the game. His play was a disaster for the team. And for Tolliver only 2-3 minutes should be allowed ;-)

sameba

November 15th, 2012
2:30 am

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