Atlanta Hawks game thread: Horford, Harris out against Warriors (updated)

Vivlamore reporting from Oakland.

A stomach illness is still wreaking havoc on the Hawks’ roster during their West Coast road trip. Al Horford and Devin Harris missed Wednesday’s game against the Warriors. Both were unable to take part in the team’s morning shootaround and were declared out well before game time.

“Hopefully, both guys will be ready by Friday,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said of the final game of the trip against the Kings. “We are taking all precautions (to ensure no one else gets ill).”

Josh Smith and Lou Williams were questionable right up until game time of Monday’s victory over the Trail Blazers. Both played and scored in double figures.

There was plenty of hand sanitizer making its way around the team workout at a San Francisco health club, as the illness also hit security and media-relations personnel.

Zaza Pachulia started at center for Horford. The Hawks activated backup center Johan Petro. He has been inactive all six games this season due to a sore back. Drew said there was a possibility Petro could play behind Pachulia and Ivan Johnson.

” I think he’s had enough (practice time),” Drew said of Petro. “We wanted him to spend more time out on the court and getting up and down. He’s been with us on the trip and prior to us leaving Atlanta he got quite a bit of court time in trying to gather some conditioning.

“I’m hoping to get him some time but I’ll take a very close look at our matchups and see if it makes sense.”

Horford leads the Hawks in points scored (89) and rebounds (52) and is tied for the team lead, with Smith, in points per game average (14.8).

The other starters will be Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeShawn Stevenson and Smith.

Smith said he was feeling much better after a day of rest.

All-Star nominees

Teague joined Smith and Horford as the Hawks representatives on the All-Star ballot released by the league Tuesday. While both said they are honored by the nomination, their main concern remained the season at hand.

“I’m just worried about the season right now and finding the cohesiveness to this team,” said Smith, who has never made the All-Star team despite approaching career numbers of 10,000 points, 5,000 rebounds, 2,000 assists and more than 1,000 blocks. “I’m a firm believer that as the team succeeds I succeed. So, I’m worried about what we are doing as a team. I not worried about the All-Star team.”

Horford is a two-time All-Star as a center. He now is grouped together with other centers and forwards as the league changed the voting distinction to front-court players.

“I really don’t pay too much attention to it until that time comes around,” Teague said of his nomination. “I’m more happy for Josh and Al. I’m just happy to be part of it. … I just trying to go every game, win every game. If it happens, I’ll be grateful for it but I’m just going game by game.”

Teague entered Wednesday’s game with averages of 14.3 points, 7.2 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 1.8 steals through six games.

“I think he definitely belongs in the same breath with a lot of the point guards in the league,” Drew said. “Jeff is really is blossoming into a really good point guard. He brings a speed to the game. He can make shots. He has a good in-between game. I think it’s time that he is mentioned with some of these other point guards.”

Playing on the road

Players and coaches often talk about the team-building benefits of playing on the road. However, the Hawks could learn a more valuable lesson with this early season four-game road trip, played in six days.

Drew was concerned prior to the season that his team would learn to win in a hostile environment. They got a lesson on the first game of the trip, losing their composure late in a loss to the Clippers. The next night they were again challenged in the fourth quarter but pulled out a victory over the Blazers.

“I think it’s a good thing to go on the road this early, to experience some of these lessons to be learned early, so that we can understand and grow as a team,” Drew said. “We didn’t feel good about our performance particularly late in the third quarter and into the fourth quarter against (the Clippers). … Against Portland, the difference was we did not lose our composure. We maintained our composure.”

Etc.

The Hawks have forced 17.8 turnovers per game, fourth best in the NBA. Former Warriors coach Don Nelson, elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame, was honored in a pre-game ceremony. … The Hawks end their road trip Friday at the Kings and return home where they will play seven of their next eight games. … Several Hawks players visited the island of Alcatraz during an off day Tuesday.

386 comments Add your comment

Tremaine

November 15th, 2012
12:49 am

Hero ball sucks!

cp

November 15th, 2012
12:49 am

Get us a real coach. This is pathetic

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
12:50 am

Good things happen when your big men move towards the basket. Ivan is keeping the Hawks in this game.

Rev in Tampa

November 15th, 2012
12:50 am

From C-Viv’s gamethread article

“I think he definitely belongs in the same breath with a lot of the point guards in the league,” Drew said. “Jeff is really is blossoming into a really good point guard. He brings a speed to the game. He can make shots. He has a good in-between game. I think it’s time that he is mentioned with some of these other point guards.”

I call BS

Melvin

November 15th, 2012
12:50 am

Needed Ivan to finish that dunk

Spartacus

November 15th, 2012
12:50 am

How Ivan doesn’t play 25-30 minutes per game is beyond me. He plays much bigger than he is and works his tail off.

Harpie

November 15th, 2012
12:51 am

Fire that piece -of -crap coach!

Jae Evolution

November 15th, 2012
12:51 am

J.J.M.

November 15th, 2012
12:51 am

If only the hawks had a player who could drive the ball.

Melvin

November 15th, 2012
12:52 am

I had a feeling we were not going to beat GSW and Sac but I thought it would be Sac who we lose to…

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
12:52 am

Korver, Ivan, Zaza, and Mike Scott (on one FG attempt) are the only Hawks shooting 50% or better for the game. The rest of the team: 4/12, 5/15, 3/9, 2/10, 1/5, 0/3. Ugly.

cp

November 15th, 2012
12:52 am

How do you get out coached by Mark ” hand down man down” Jackson.. LD is clueless

michael

November 15th, 2012
12:52 am

should have put jeff back in earlier

bigdave

November 15th, 2012
12:53 am

LD simply doesn’t believe in Jeffs ability to make shots..

BravesFan79

November 15th, 2012
12:53 am

I wasnt a coach hater last year, but him playing Stevenson over Morrow this game has me thinking hes not the right coach for the Hawks.

Rod from College Park

November 15th, 2012
12:54 am

By the way, Jamal has 16 points on 5/6 shooting in 16 minutes against the Heat.

Mokeysho

November 15th, 2012
12:54 am

werd yrral erif

Melvin

November 15th, 2012
12:55 am

Lou take it and then he gives it back….

Mike

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

LD better have the greatest excuse in the world as to why Lou is in instead of Teague right now. I’m about to lose it.

cp

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

Mark Jackson doesnt even draw up plays

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

The Hawks are 9/18 in the paint and 23/57 outside the paint in this game.

kwooden1

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

We definitely don’t deserve to win this game, with this terrible shooting, but the Warriors just can’t stop turning the ball over.

bigdave

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

Big time shot then

Melvin

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

2 big 3’s by Lou….

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
12:56 am

That was the ultimate Jamal shot.

cp

November 15th, 2012
12:57 am

Lol now he hits shots

kwooden1

November 15th, 2012
12:57 am

HUGH 3 by Lou!

Mike

November 15th, 2012
12:57 am

Stop Bob, it’s not a 4th quarter explosion. 6 of those 9 points came in the last 40 seconds. Lou has single handedly lost the Hawks this gmae.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
12:57 am

Holy sh-t, Ivan just smiled.

Mokeysho

November 15th, 2012
12:58 am

Lou tryin to wake up from the dead

Fire that Moron

November 15th, 2012
12:58 am

Teague ZERO minutes in the 4th. Can we get an answer for this garbage?

Mike

November 15th, 2012
12:58 am

Fitting that we lose this one on an offensive rebound.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
12:58 am

Great D by Ivan. As usual, nobody gets the rebound.

Rod from College Park

November 15th, 2012
12:59 am

Ivan has played a great game tonight.

Melvin

November 15th, 2012
12:59 am

Ivan didn’t box out on that long rebound…

Jae Evolution

November 15th, 2012
12:59 am

Such…a sad…effort.

cp

November 15th, 2012
12:59 am

Well thats game

kwooden1

November 15th, 2012
1:00 am

Can’t get the long rebound, story of this game!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 15th, 2012
1:02 am

Well, that was ugly.

Mike

November 15th, 2012
1:03 am

Lou Williams – COMPLETE LOSER. How do you win by that much in turnovers and lose this game!? BAFFLES ME!

michael

November 15th, 2012
1:03 am

please for the love of basketball fire drew!!!!!!!!!!

Melvin

November 15th, 2012
1:03 am

Hawks had no business losing this game. They better steal another road game against an elite team to make up for this lost….

HueyFreeman

November 15th, 2012
1:03 am

Fire LD. Your rotations make no sense. You play scrubs like Tolliver consistently. You don’t hold your guys accountable on defense, rebounding, or effort. This was a winnable game against GSW (w/o Bogut). You have exposed yourself as a sad excuse of a coach countless times. I hope you enjoy yourself which you can, you are not fit to coach 6th grade girl’s basketball, let alone NBA basketball. /rant, *relights blunt*

cp

November 15th, 2012
1:05 am

I hope Ferry has a plan for a coach..Even Stotts didnt frustrate me as much as LD does.

ClassicHawks

November 15th, 2012
1:06 am

We missed Al’s Leadership tonight. This team is lost without him. LD has got to do better job of plays coming out of the timeout. This team must move the ball. LD is doing a bad job so far this season. Last season he had Joe to bail hin out.

ATLien

November 15th, 2012
1:07 am

Please fire Larry Drew. If I were JT, I’d be requesting a trade after now twice being benched for the entire 4th quarter. He should be playing 35mpg, not the 25 this moron wants to give him.

Rod from College Park

November 15th, 2012
1:07 am

The Cippers are a problem

sameba

November 15th, 2012
1:07 am

LD did not make any sub slast several minutes, which is inexcusable. Players simply got tired, He had to sub Lou with Teague, this was obvious. Based solely on this game, LD should not be HC on any team…

Rod from College Park

November 15th, 2012
1:07 am

cp

November 15th, 2012
1:11 am

I dont want Mike Brown but im tired of LD. DF get us a real coach and a sf in here ASAP