Atlanta Hawks game thread: Smith, Williams ill and may not play vs. Blazers (updated)

UPDATE: I’m told that Josh Smith and Lou Williams will play tonight vs. Blazers.

Vivlamore reporting from Portland.

Josh Smith and Lou Williams are questionable for tonight’s game against the Trail Blazers. Each was sick Monday. While they participated in the team’s walk-through practice at the Rose Garden they were sent home early.

Coach Larry Drew said he will wait to see how each was doing later in the day before making a decision on their playing status. I will update you on their conditions prior to game time.

In other items:

* DeShawn Stevenson will play, and likely start, against the Blazers at small forward. Stevenson sat out Sunday’s game at the Clippers. Stevenson, a 13-year veteran, told me he did not play because of the back-to-back games situation.

Drew confirmed Monday that he does not want to overwork Stevenson and his aging knees.

“We are going to play it by ear but for the most part he won’t be playing back-to-backs,” Drew said. “One thing we really want to make sure we do is keep a close eye on him and his knees. There may be some cases where he may be able to play some back-to-backs. Right now, it’s out of the question.”

Drew said he planned ahead with the team’s schedule and wanted to use Stevenson against the Blazers.

“On this particular road trip, I thought tonight’s game was a game we really need him,” Drew said.

* The Hawks will likely start a lineup of Jeff Teague and Kyle Korver at guard, Stevenson and Smith (if he is able) at forward and Al Horford at center. Anthony Tolliver will start at power forward if Smith can’t play.

* Anthony Morrow also did not play Sunday, one game after he scored 17 points off the bench against the Heat. Drew said he had a determined rotation for the Clippers game and Morrow was not in the plan. Once the game got out of hand in the fourth quarter, he didn’t want to use Morrow in such a situation.

“I’m going to play him when I feel it’s a game that I really want to use him in,” Drew said. “Going into last night’s game, I already had my mind made up on the rotation that I did want to use. I didn’t want to throw him in there when the game is out of reach. I don’t want to do that.

“There are going to be some games when I’m going to be using him, particularly in needing his offense. We started with the big lineup last night. We got good mileage out of bringing Lou (Williams) and Devin (Harris) off the bench and trying to keep a big three position-wise out on the floor.

“I couldn’t find minutes for him in last night’s game. I am aware of the productivity he has brought when he’s been in there. He’ll be playing more.”

* Drew finally got a chance to use rookies John Jenkins and Mike Scott Sunday with the Hawks trailing by 20 points late in the game. They played the final 3:48 of the contest.

“Both guys, I’ve always said, bring an NBA skill to the table,” Drew said. “I understand they are going to be a little rusty because they have not been playing. I still love my rookies. I think both of those guys are going to find minutes and have a really bright future in this league.”

Scott said he was happy to make his NBA debut. His only regret was missing his two shot attempts. Jenkins finished with six points, going 2-for-4 from the field and hitting two free throws.

-  Chris Vivlamore

452 comments Add your comment

Joe Johnson

November 12th, 2012
6:17 pm

“I still love my rookies. I think both of those guys are going to find minutes and have a really bright future in this league.”

Damnit. I hate Larry drew. If that’s the case, THEN PLAY THEM and STFU

Slimjr

November 12th, 2012
6:19 pm

Put Al at the 4 tonight if Josh cant go…LaMarcus needs to be guarded by 6′10″ Horford!

Allstar vs. Allstar!!

Rusty

November 12th, 2012
6:19 pm

We on this blog all seem frantic even though it is early in the season but all of us who love the hawks realize with LD in command this team is in big trouble.

Slimjr

November 12th, 2012
6:21 pm

4-1, if Larry could have pushed the right buttons…

Larry has become very efficient at out smarting himself..

Rod from College Park

November 12th, 2012
6:24 pm

“I said Drew would lower the value of Lou and look at him using Lou for something other than what he is”

Same thing he did with Jamal. It’s even worse now because you have two very capable point guards on the roster.

Grandmaster JeJe

November 12th, 2012
6:24 pm

Morrow would’ve done a hell of a lot more than most of our backcourt could have done last nght

Fire this coach already

And stop playing Teague such low minutes. F’ing A

Rusty

November 12th, 2012
6:28 pm

I never.heard such crap morrow did not play because I had a determined rotation for the clipper game & morrow wasn’t in my plan,not playing Stevenson because of his knees is crap also.If he can’t play everyday we need to get rid of him. I just think that this is more of LD’ s bullcrap.

Jay Dubu

November 12th, 2012
6:28 pm

We are watching the last of the LD era in ATL this season. Let him have his fun.

Buddy Grizzard

November 12th, 2012
6:29 pm

I think this thing could go south on LD in a hurry. The favoritism toward Tolliver and Harris is a joke.

Slimjr

November 12th, 2012
6:30 pm

2-6

22-6 Woody

O'Brien

November 12th, 2012
6:36 pm

Thanks for asking the questions C-Viv.

“Going into last night’s game, I already had my mind made up on the rotation that I did want to use..

That makes no sense. There is a guy on the bench who may have made a difference, but LD didn’t play him because he had his mind made up prior to the game?

For a guy in the last year of his deal, I thought he would have been making better decisions, and coaching with more urgency. SMH

O'Brien

November 12th, 2012
6:37 pm

FTPB,

MsDee,

With Horford’s deadly jumper and productive post moves,.

Horford’s post moves are still a work in progress. And although I am a big fan of Al, the fact is we saw Josh step his game up for almost an entire season last year (when Horford was injured). We don’t know if Horford can do the same without Josh Smith for an entire season.

paian

November 12th, 2012
6:38 pm

i believe we should replace larry with a highschool basketball headcoach they may be an improvement over this clueless dude.

“I’m going to play him when I feel it’s a game that I really want to use him in,”

Just dumb i guess larry goes by how minutes each player has on paper instead of making in game adjustments. I guess he tries to get each player their minutes, “if” he has them keyed in on his selected matchups smh lol

cp

November 12th, 2012
6:38 pm

LD has no clue smh

O'Brien

November 12th, 2012
6:39 pm

AJ,

You have always said Dwight is a liability at the end of games due to his FT shooting. How do you feel about Josh’ FT shooting this year (2-14).

steve brown

November 12th, 2012
6:39 pm

Not only is Josh ill he is making Danny Ferry sick.

keith

November 12th, 2012
6:40 pm

Chris Vivlamore—Any news at all on back-up center Yohan Petro? Is he part of the teams’ plan moving forward?

keith

November 12th, 2012
6:42 pm

Damian Lillard will attack the glass tonight ad-nauseam. This could be ugly. All Pgs. need to bring their “A” game 2-night.

northcyde

November 12th, 2012
6:44 pm

LOL @ his comment on Morrow.

Amazing.

See, this is why I want Jenkins starting from the jump. If Drew is going to pull stunts like these, he may as well throw Jenkins right into the fire, and see if he will sink or swim right from the start.

If he sinks, he’ll have reason not to play him. If he swims, he’ll have NO reason not to play him

. . . unless he does Jenkins like he does with Ivan.

This team is just too stocked with some of the same parts. The usless parts need to be on the pine, and the unknown parts need to play, to see exactly what they can do.

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November 12th, 2012
6:49 pm

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The Truth

November 12th, 2012
6:54 pm

Drew said. “Going into last night’s game, I already had my mind made up on the rotation that I did want to use.”

And that “young padawan” is why you failed.

Slimjr

November 12th, 2012
6:55 pm

Ken S, has been preaching reduce the minutes of these ineffective vets and give the younger guys more burn!

Morrow could have helped the Hawks produce a win against the Rockets and Miami if he had received more playing time. Heck he put up 17 in limited play then got benched late in the game? What gives Larry Leisure?

Should be 4-1, but its not to be with guy..

Grandad’s Clock : T-25

Buddy Grizzard

November 12th, 2012
7:02 pm

Danny Ferry: “More rope, Larry?”

Gilley

November 12th, 2012
7:11 pm

DEACON LARRY DREW IS TRASH!!!!!!

MattP

November 12th, 2012
7:11 pm

All I have to say is “wow at his Morrow comment.” He told everyone right there that he does not want to do in game adjustments. With a roster like this you can’t be picky on who you play before you actually see what they bring to the table, This is going to be one LONG season if Drew is not fired.

By the way, is Drew really thinking about starting Tolliver against LMA if Smith doesn’t play? This guy really has no idea about matchup. LMA is going to destroy Tolliver.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 12th, 2012
7:14 pm

So Stevenson didn’t play yesterday (predetermined) and neither did Morrow.

Wow. Our 2 best shooting guards didn’t play.

FIRE LD
FIRE LD
FIRE LD
FIRE LD
FIRE LD
FIRE LD

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 12th, 2012
7:17 pm

Let Jamal murder us, yet don’t play Anthony Morrow, who actually has been one of our best players in the minutes he’s played.

FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD

tyger

November 12th, 2012
7:23 pm

LD logic questionable in re. Morrow…

I hope he isnt this years’ version of TMac…
Enough of that ish…

He has to find minutes for a 3pt champ?
Does he have to find minutes for Kyle Korver?

He determined his lineup in advance, thus????
If it doesnt work, then we lose, Fk it???

No, you adjust, you read on the run…stop the bleeding…
Not wave the white flag…

Too much compressed air on the flight…

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 12th, 2012
7:23 pm

Can’t trade Josh now because he is playing so poorly and can’t shoot a free throw that his value keeps dropping.

FIRE LD
FIRE SUND

El BOSS dominicano

November 12th, 2012
7:25 pm

Fire Larry Drew I can’t keep playing for a retard. BTW I’m Alfred Horford aka Al Horford aka Boss aka Joto

Chris Vivlamore

November 12th, 2012
7:27 pm

keith: No plans on a back-up center at this point. They are bringing Petro along slowly.

leon

November 12th, 2012
7:29 pm

My dad will hate me for this, but Larry Drew is a moron. He would have done better by not saying anything at all.

“I’m going to play him when I feel it’s a game that I really want to use him in,” Drew said. “Going into last night’s game, I already had my mind made up on the rotation that I did want to use.”

So when do you adjust to what is happening? That is like a guy getting punched in the face because he refuses to hide his nose from the opposing fist.

cp

November 12th, 2012
7:29 pm

I guess it makes too much sense for LD to base his rotations on how the game is going rather than choosing his rotations pre game. This dude is clueless.

paian

November 12th, 2012
7:31 pm

Lester conner cant be worse than larry I’d rather have an assistant coaching us for christsake

Fire that Moron

November 12th, 2012
7:34 pm

The Morrow explanation is a fireable offense.

Josh Smith

November 12th, 2012
7:34 pm

Me and lou are going to the strip club tonite.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

November 12th, 2012
7:51 pm

“I’m going to play him when I feel it’s a game that I really want to use him in,” Drew said. “Going into last night’s game, I already had my mind made up on the rotation that I did want to use. I didn’t want to throw him in there when the game is out of reach. I don’t want to do that.”

Really?

Clearly LD is on something. He must have popped a Molly before this interview. Please fire this guy ASAP.

Reggie

November 12th, 2012
7:54 pm

There is no way someone really said that, “i had my mind made up”. I am really dissappointed as a Hawks fan that the head coach has this mentality, Anthony Morrow and Jeff Teague in the backcourt would be money and there isnt one person who has seen any games this year who would beg ive to differ. Tolliver is not productive but Ivan is and this guy plays Tolliver twice as long as Ivan. Devin Harris looks far worse than Teague did when he was backing up Mike Bibby. LD refused to give JT minutes then but gives Harris minutes on the regular. People wont show up to games if this continues not to mention the Hawks wont win many games. LD gotta go but Danny already knows that,gonna be a long season

beone

November 12th, 2012
7:56 pm

Go Larry Go. Oh Go Larry Go, Oh Go Larry Go. Larry B DUMB!

22 Drew

November 12th, 2012
7:58 pm

I am in disbelief, this ninja is a head coach in the NBA!

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Mike

November 12th, 2012
8:00 pm

His rationale for not playing Morrow tells you all you need to know about his coaching acumen. Drew will be the reason this team misses the playoffs, despite the fact that they actually have the talent to make it.

Nate ArchiBALL

November 12th, 2012
8:00 pm

“22-6 Woody”

The big difference between the Hawks and Knicks coached by Woody is that you have a center in NY who can defend the rim and while Tyson Chandler is not considered an offensive threat he does clean up all the garbage with dunks and put backs. You can’t say that about any of the centers that have played during Woody’s and Larry’s tenure …….Al, ZaZa, Twin, Shelden, Petro, Randolph Morris just to name a few.

Slimjr

November 12th, 2012
8:03 pm

“I’m going to play him when I feel it’s a game that I really want to use him in,” Drew said.

He actually convinced ASG and some on this blog that he was a better coach then Woody! Hmmm

Karma baby..

2-6[ after the road trip]

4-0 [Woody and the Knicks rolling]

“A sucker born every minute” -Barnum-

Harry Hawk

November 12th, 2012
8:06 pm

Unless Morrow was hurt or ill, there is no reason for Drew to do something like that. I may be wrong, but the job of a coach is to put his team in the best position to win games. If he has talent, he must use it.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 12th, 2012
8:09 pm

DeShawn Stevenson is 31. To my knowledge, he hasn’t had any major surgeries or anything like T-Mac. He has only played over 35 minutes per game once in his entire career. Why exactly is he being given the T-Mac treatment again?

Najeh Davenpoop

November 12th, 2012
8:13 pm

FTPB

“The Hawks wont survive with both, but at least Al plays within his game instead of trying to be a superman, when in reality he’s more like one of Captain Planet’s planeteers (Josh Smith).”

Why exactly is “playing within his game” automatically considered a good thing?

Sure, if he was a role player, it would be a smart move for him to just stand around and play his role. That is what earned Bruce Bowen a long career even though the only things he could do were hit corner 3s and play man to man defense.

But Al is not a role player. He is, at worst, this team’s 2nd best player and is much more talented than the Bruce Bowens of the world. Why is it good for him to “play within his game”? That dude needs to take matters into his own hands and start looking for his own shot. You know that move he occasionally makes when he puts it on the floor, drives past his man, and throws it down? That needs to happen at least five times per game.

At least for this season, Josh and Al are the centerpieces of this team. Neither one should be deferring to anyone. When Al gets a chance to score, he needs to grab it by the throat and seize it, not “play within himself”.

paian

November 12th, 2012
8:17 pm

wow teague is leading all pg in 3pt% so far

Slimjr

November 12th, 2012
8:17 pm

“Play within his game” = 11 pts. on 10 shots…. zzzzzzzzz

Najeh Davenpoop

November 12th, 2012
8:32 pm

Danny Ferry deserves some blame for this Tolliver fiasco, too. There was no reason to bring him on when the hole on this team was at small forward, not power forward. If he was going to burn a roster spot on a SF, he should have gone after Dominic McGuire or kept Damion James, not given a guaranteed deal to a tweener in Tolliver who doesn’t do anything particularly well.