Atlanta Hawks game thread: Rebounds matter vs. Pacers

Vivlamore reporting from Philips Arena.

Watch the Hawks’ rebounding totals tonight against the Pacers. It might well be a good indicator of which Hawks team we will see.

As we have documented, the Hawks were killed on the boards in the season-opening loss to the Rockets. They bounced back (pun intended) to out-rebound the Thunder in a win Sunday.

Now, here come the Pacers. Even without All-Star Danny Granger, who may miss three months with knee problems, the Pacers lead the NBA in average rebounds (53.3) and defensive rebounds (38.0) per game. The Hawks, by stark contrast, are 27th in rebounds (37.3) and 26th in defensive rebounds (27.5). The Pacers will be playing their fifth game while the Hawks will be playing only their third.

Rebounding will be a point of emphasis for the Hawks, according to coach Larry Drew.

“Their size has always been a problem for us,” Drew said. “(Roy) Hibbert is a big body in the middle, does a great job posting up, does a great job sealing in the paint. He always poses a problem for us. We are going to have to do a good job, collectively, in trying to defend him in the post.

“That being said, they do good job on the boards. With their size, they’ve got some guys who can rebound the basketball – Hibbert, (David) West and when (Tyler) Hansbrough comes into the game he’s known for his aggressive play and his ability to rebound the ball. We are going to have our hands full tonight. As I told our big guys we have to bring a physical mentality to the game tonight because it’s going to be physical. Our games with them have always been physical.”

The Pacers have three players in the top 40 in the NBA in rebounding. Guard Paul George is seventh (10.5), West is tied for 15th (9.3) and Hibbert is tied for 36th (7.8). The Hawks have only Al Horford in that group, tied for 25th (8.5).

Josh Smith returns after missing the last game with a sprained right ankle. The forward said now, more than ever, the team must adhere to its team rebounding approach.

“They have Roy Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough coming off the bench, David West,” Smith said. “Their guards come in and rebound too. They definitely crash the boards and we are going to need everybody healthy and everybody in attendance tonight so we can gang rebound. It has to be a team effort.”

The Pacers (2-2) also lead the NBA in holding opponents to just a .389 field goal percentage.

- Chris Vivlamore

447 comments Add your comment

Astro Joe

November 7th, 2012
6:46 pm

With Granger out for a while, the Pacers will likely crash the offensive glass to get some “cheap points”. And it is hard to exploit any speed advantage without getting a goodly amount of defensive boards. Hawks can’t pretend that they don’t know what to do or what to expect tonight.

keith

November 7th, 2012
6:50 pm

I like the idea of a big line-up all season. Being proactive instead of reactive makes more sense to me. Make the other teams adjust. Ex- San Francisco head coach Bill Wlash used to script his 1st 25 plays. Last i remember, he won a few football games…

Slimjr

November 7th, 2012
6:56 pm

Larry PROTECT AL HORFORD tonight as best you can!

We do not want a replay….

Slimjr

November 7th, 2012
6:59 pm

With our leader/captain and #1 Allstar power forward back to terrorize the opponent this may get real ugly for Indiana!

IceColdATLien

November 7th, 2012
7:00 pm

Rebounding overall isn’t as important as preventing Indy from getting offensive rebounds. Not only does that obviously decrease their potential for 2nd and 3rd shots during possessions, but it also allows ATL to get out and run… their supposed strong suit with a small lineup. Al should be able to beat Hibbert down the court all night, but that only happens with defensive boards.

Jae Evolution

November 7th, 2012
7:04 pm

Paul George was only allowed 3 boards against the Spurs on Monday after getting 17 and 15 his first two games. It is going to be critical keeping not only him off the glass but the whole team because they will crash the boards hard and if we let it get out of hand like the Rockets, mark up another L.

Chris Vivlamore

November 7th, 2012
7:12 pm

I almost know what I’m doing! The lineup I gave you in the previous blog was correct – Teague, Korver, Smith, Horford, Pachulia. Petro will be inactive.

Luke Cage

November 7th, 2012
7:15 pm

SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!

IceColdATLien

November 7th, 2012
7:15 pm

Going with a big lineup, huh? Nice decision by LD. If Smith can stay away from the 3-pt arc, then this lineup could do some serious work against opponents.

Luke Cage

November 7th, 2012
7:16 pm

I say RUN RUN RUN, their bigs are so much slower

Slimjr

November 7th, 2012
7:17 pm

Sweet Lou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bocephus Jackson

November 7th, 2012
7:25 pm

Zaza grab a big un. He gonna grab a hot dog. Smoove ready for anything. Horford watch the Gators in blue. Sweet Lou take a doo-doo.

cp

November 7th, 2012
7:29 pm

When they played the Pacers in the preseason they caused a lot of turnovers and got on the break. I think they can do the same tonight but they have to have great effort on the glass like they did against the Thunder. Hopefully Josh doesn’t try to do too much tonight. I hope he gives up the ball and becomes a finisher. I know he will take bad shots but I hope it aint a lot. Against the Thunder I saw maybe two bad shots from the Hawks all night. Josh seems to average that a quarter. We need good Josh tonight not bad Josh. Well we need good Josh every night but you get my point.

Spyro

November 7th, 2012
7:31 pm

Granger’s injury is why I predicted that the Pacers wouldn’t finish 2nd in the East. The Pacers completely missed the injury-bug last season; there’s no way they were going to get so lucky for a second consecutive year.

If Zaza is starting, I expect the Hawks to win on the boards. Hibbert can be bullied on the boards by the more physical bigs, and Horford/West and Smoove/George are likely washes on the glass.

M Breezy

November 7th, 2012
7:38 pm

If LD plays his cards right the Hawks can get another win tonight.
But if the Hawks keep laying eggs with Josh in the line up. Tme
could be running out on both LD and J Smooth.

Tittus Willis

November 7th, 2012
7:39 pm

How did Tolliver scratch his corn ? Josh hurt after one game ? Why he so weak ? Give the ball to Devin Harris tonight and he pick and roll with Al. Go Hawks !

the flash

November 7th, 2012
7:52 pm

Morrow needs to get more minutes if he can continue to steal the ball like he did against KD last game and Kyle is looking like i bust of a off season pick up and Tolliver looks lost at all times

M Breezy

November 7th, 2012
7:59 pm

People don’t realize Korver still wanted to play
in Chi-Town. So IMAO don’t expect much from
him. Meanwhile, release Tolliver!! Bring on Fesenko!! Please!!!

Runner-

November 7th, 2012
8:01 pm

“Petro will be inactive.”

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

C-Viv, no need to keep reporting this, nobody gives a sh*t

Runner-

November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm

I still don’t understand Drew keeping Tolliver over James, he can’t shoot as well as Drew claimed, and seemingly only kept him for his ability to play the 4 as well as the 3. James’ rebounding could have been huge tonight…

[...] Atlanta Hawks game thread: Rebounds matter vs. PacersAtlanta Journal Constitution (blog)Even without All-Star Danny Granger, who may miss three months with knee problems, the Pacers lead the NBA in average rebounds (53.3) and defensive rebounds (38.0) per game. The Hawks, by stark contrast, are 27th in rebounds (37.3) and 26th in …and more » [...]

Tittus Willis

November 7th, 2012
8:10 pm

Korver is playing good so feed him the rock. Petro is solid off bench. Work Zaza into guard rotation. he quick off the dribble.

the flash

November 7th, 2012
8:15 pm

What games have you watched korver cant play d and from what I see misses more than he hits

Najeh Davenpoop

November 7th, 2012
8:16 pm

Can’t wait to hear Nique say “Hibbits” about 5,372 times.

terrell

November 7th, 2012
8:17 pm

Horford gets his wish. He’s at pf tonight. And Josh on a bad ankle spells jumpshot city. lol. I hope they keep the ball MOVING.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 7th, 2012
8:17 pm

Grantland has an article about the Granger injury and the Pacers’ chances up today. Worth noting: Bill Simmons thinks the Hawks are one of the four Eastern Conference teams who are a “lock” to make the playoffs, along with Miami, Boston and New York.

Tittus Willis

November 7th, 2012
8:19 pm

Hawks have 6 good shooters and no defenders. Granger may come off bench to guard Zaza. Reggie Miller was signed to a 10 day contract by Pacers.

keith

November 7th, 2012
8:21 pm

Please bring back Keith Benson. This guy played outstanding basketball during Summer League play.

DawgNole

November 7th, 2012
8:22 pm

Can’t believe this team–already. Smell up the joint in their home opener, then hit the road for a victory over last year’s NBA runner-up. Make up your minds, Hawks.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 7th, 2012
8:28 pm

Oh yeah, definitely like this lineup better than the Tolliver lineup.

Ivan, Lou, Harris, and Morrow get all of the minutes off the bench, hopefully. No Tolliver.

Put in Timeout by Ken Suguira,Filtered by Mark Bradley, Banned once by Bill King & Chip Towers but only slightly loved by Jeff Schultz.

November 7th, 2012
8:28 pm

Call me when the playoffs start……

Hejan Poopnevad

November 7th, 2012
8:28 pm

Granger’s injury is why I got impregnated that the Pacers would finish 2nd in the East. The Pacers completely missed the injury-bugged last season; there’s no way they were going to get so unlucky for a second consecutive week.

If Zaza is starting a riot I expect the Hawks to win. On the boards, Hibbert can be bullied on the boards by the more physical bigguns, and Horford/West and Smoove/George are likely car washes on the dirty glass

Najeh Davenpoop

November 7th, 2012
8:31 pm

There isn’t a meaningful difference between Morrow and Korver. Korver moves better without the ball, Morrow has longer arms, but at the end of the day if they are not making shots they are useless.

Blast

November 7th, 2012
8:35 pm

Am I wrong, or is the AJC’s clock still back one hour?

Blast

November 7th, 2012
8:36 pm

Yep, they never reset their clock when time went back one hour.

JR

November 7th, 2012
8:36 pm

I see Josh Smith is back tonight. It will be interesting to see if he throws up selfish shots from the perimeter, of it he shares the ball with the shooters who can actually shoot. We need him banging with the Pacers big front line to win.

Hawkfan

November 7th, 2012
8:39 pm

Get after em Hawks. Highlight Factory

Melvin

November 7th, 2012
8:40 pm

Not a pack house at all….

Najeh Davenpoop

November 7th, 2012
8:41 pm

Josh chasing Paul George around the perimeter early.

terrell

November 7th, 2012
8:42 pm

Great pass Kyle. smh

Melvin

November 7th, 2012
8:43 pm

Is that Kyle Krover or Ashton Kutcher wearing# 26 for the Hawks???

Runner-

November 7th, 2012
8:43 pm

JR

November 7th, 2012
8:43 pm

Ok. Josh posts! He scores!

Melvin

November 7th, 2012
8:44 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

November 7th, 2012
8:44 pm

Nique just said “Hibbits” for the first time.

MsDee, I want to see Al make the move Josh just made. There is no stat that shows that Josh can make that move and Al can’t. But I need Al to make that move semi-consistently before I am ready to run the offense through him.

bigdave

November 7th, 2012
8:45 pm

bigdave

November 7th, 2012
8:45 pm

west bodying Al

JR

November 7th, 2012
8:45 pm

Josh can score 40 tonight, and we will need them!

Smokey

November 7th, 2012
8:45 pm

Why is Korver still starting? smh

Melvin

November 7th, 2012
8:46 pm

MLS = Middle Lane Shawty