Atlanta Hawks game thread: Tolliver will start for Smith vs. OKC

Vivlamore reporting from Oklahoma City following the Hawks’ shoot-around prior to tonight’s game against the Thunder.

* As we reported yesterday, Josh Smith is not on the trip with a sprained right ankle. Coach Larry Drew said he noticed Smith limping during Friday’s season-opener against the Rockets. The forward did play all 12 minutes of the fourth quarter.

“It was a little sore (Saturday),” Drew said. “I know he got it treated. We made the decision to leave him back and get it treated. Our focus was to get him ready for Wednesday’s game.”

Drew said he is “hoping” Smith will be ready for the game against the Pacers but his status will depend on how he feels and the doctor’s report.

* Anthony Tolliver will start in Smith’s place. The rest of the starting lineup will be Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeShawn Stevenson and Al Horford. Stevenson will draw the early assignment of Thunder star Kevin Durant, although Tolliver will match up against him as well.

“Like we’ve always done when we played him, we’ll give him different looks,” Drew said of the matchup against Durant. “We don’t just lock into him with one guy. Chances are we’ll give him some different looks. Tolliver can be matched on him some. DeShawn (Stevenson) can be matched on him some. Kyle (Korver) can be matched on him some. We’ll just have to see what is working good for us but we have to give him some different looks.”

* Tolliver said he is up for the challenge, a position he will find himself in from time to time with his ability to play both forward positions.

Tolliver said the Hawks learned a valuable lesson following their season-opening loss to the Rockets, a game in which they were outrebounded 58-36.

“I think we proved to ourselves that when we really focus in we can be really good. And when we don’t focus in we can be really bad. As much bad went down in that game, we still were right there and had chances to win. Take away a few of the bonehead plays and we have a chance to win that game if not win it.”

* Al Horford said the Hawks watched a lot of film from the loss to the Rockets.

“Being the first game, and a new team, we really weren’t on the same page,” Horford said. “It’s going to take us a few games to get going but I hope today we do a much better job of that.”

As the 0-3 Lakers can attest, it can take time for teams to gel after an offseason of multiple moves. Horford said the difference will come on the defensive end.

* After doing film work of Friday’s loss, Drew said the rebounding issue was not a scheme issue.

“It was just not a good job of rebounding,” Drew said. “That shot went up and we did not seek bodies to box out. The perimeters did not do a good job of chasing down the long rebounds. We went through that whole thing to see where the rebounds were coming from. It had nothing to do with rotations. It had nothing to do with our defensive schemes. We did not do a good job of boxing out and pursuing the ball.”

* Anthony Morrow and Ivan Johnson, along with rookies John Jenkins and Mike Scott, did not play in the season opener. Drew said it was due to a combination of matchups and rotation.

“First of all we can’t play everybody,” Drew said. “That particular game, being the first game, I wanted to look at some specific matchups. We’ll see how it goes. I can’t play 11 or 12 guys. I just can’t do it. I’ve got to really look and play the guys who are going to be in the rotation. The other guys, as I’ve told them, are going to have to stay ready.”

- Chris Vivlamore

529 comments Add your comment

DS

November 4th, 2012
2:05 pm

Now I’m completely convinced that LD is still here because Ferry wants to tank the season. There’s absolutely no other reason for that idiot to be the HC to any bb team let alone an NBA team. I wish Ivan would punch him on his face.. How the f@#! is Tolliver starting ahead of Ivan!!

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
2:05 pm

LD has to be the only guy on the planet that would have Tolliver in front of Ivan on the depth chart. LD just thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.

DS

November 4th, 2012
2:07 pm

And of course LD blames the poor rebounding on the players, he didn’t have anything to do with that…

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
2:09 pm

If LD thinks rebounding was the only issue vs Houston, he is in for a rude awakening. Our perimeter defense was the worst I’ve ever seen

keith

November 4th, 2012
2:18 pm

“Anthony Tolliver ought to be sellin’ insurance”

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:28 pm

Wowwww we should as fans have some say so where LD is concerned FIRE THE DUDE N HIRE ANYBODYYY ELSE PLEASEEEEEEE GEESHHHHH WTF NO MORROW NO MIKE SCOTT WHIM BTW MATCHES UP VERY WELL WITH KEVIN DURANT AND SO DOES IVAN JOHNSON WTF IS THIS GUY LARRY DREW ON DUDE IT AINT NO KNOWN LOCAL StrEET stuff smgdh

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:30 pm

We shall see in 5.5 hours whats really up and I gotta strong feelin I will be watchin our 7+0 falCANS WHO HAS A REAL HEAD COACH LD IS JUST A HEAD CASE LOL

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:34 pm

I hope the pr guy undeestands that when fans get what they want that $ comes to the building and WE WANT IVAN WE WANT IVAN #!#!#!#!

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:35 pm

We should attend the next homegame and boo larry drew and picket for hus immediate release fire him NOW

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
2:36 pm

FIRE LD
FIRE SUND
FIRE WOODY
FIRE WEISS
FIRE STOTTS

paian

November 4th, 2012
2:37 pm

this sht is just sad i dont think im gonna be able to watch this game lol

keith

November 4th, 2012
2:41 pm

Maybe Larry Drew is under orders to start the worst line-up possible without making it so obvious? hmmmmmm? food for thought? he can not be as clueless as he seems or can he?

keith

November 4th, 2012
2:43 pm

The Houston game revealed that Zsa zsa should be starting every night. Dude should play about 30-38 minutes per night.

NORRIS CHUCK

November 4th, 2012
2:44 pm

“We’ll see how it goes. I can’t play 11 or 12 guys. I just can’t do it. I’ve got to really look and play the guys who are going to be in the rotation. The other guys, as I’ve told them, are going to have to stay ready.”

So LD is trying to sell that Tolliver is a better player right now than Ivan????

NORRIS CHUCK

November 4th, 2012
2:46 pm

Why not go with:

Teague
Harris
Stevenson
Ivan
Horford

Lou
Morrow
Korver
Tolliver
ZaZa

How hard is it to put the best combinations on the court? LD is a complete bust as an NBA head coach!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
2:46 pm

Tolliver is his guy! Told ya in the preivous blog.. He is, our new Collins! Oh Boy!

Do not be surprised if he becomes a Captain! Hmmmmmmm

Oh the Humanity!

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:48 pm

Ld is LOST OVERTHINKING AND CLUELESS

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:49 pm

I KNEW NOT TO BUT SEASON TIX BUTTT AHHHH THE HUMANITY LOL AS YOY GUYS SAY LOL

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:50 pm

Tolliver will get manhandled by kd35

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
2:54 pm

Now if Al can get his new [Finesse] game down pat, we may have a fighting chance?

Do we lose by 10,20 or 30?

Westbrook is looking at tonight’s game and probably saying hey Harden dropped 45 on these chumps, I may go for 50! Sheesh!

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
2:55 pm

I’m convinced Tolliver is LD’s nephew somewhere down the line.

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
2:57 pm

THIS morning, does any one wish the Hawks would’ve pushed for a Horford & Teague for Harden trade a few weeks ago?

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
2:57 pm

Woody>Woody Lite

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:02 pm

Ramon, lets push for Harden for AllStar AL and No jumpshot Teague today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1GRRRRRRRRGH!!!!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:05 pm

Shoot the step-back or Serge Ibaka will send it back to Atlanta asap…

prison mike

November 4th, 2012
3:06 pm

Little Al will start to complain about Perkins physical play by halftime…

This might be a lotto year for us. We are due one, hopefully it’s in the top 7 range to get some good odds.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:06 pm

Did he just BENCH Devin Harris and Start ANTHONY TOLLIVER!!!!???? ANTHONY TOLLIVER!!???

I’m so shocked I need someone to shake me until I wake up!!!!

Somebody needs to shake LD!!!

Fundamentals

November 4th, 2012
3:07 pm

Hopefully Ivan will get a chance to remind LD of what toughness, edge & heart is tonight.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:09 pm

Ken Strickland

November 4th, 2012
3:10 pm

As we all see, Drew’s starting lineup reveals his continued love affair with jumpshooters and OFF over DEF. As badly as we got outrebounded against the Rockets, and with our leading rebounder out, Drew continues to sacrifice rebounding and DEF in favor of jumpshooters and OFF. I’m getting the same type of frustrating feeling I got when Woodson was the HC.

I’m looking for Ferry to fire LD by the trade deadline. And if Josh doesn’t get it through his hard, thick head that he needs to change his OFF approach and stop taking so many doggone jumpshots, he’s going to find himself traded by the trade deadline. There has been some criticism of Teague lately, but I don’t think it’s warranted.

He’s not a scoring PG, which means it’s his responsibility to get everyone involved in the OFF early. But when things are working out, it’s also his responsibility to take charge and become a scoring option, which he did at one point in his last gm. Personally, I think he’s done quite well considering he’s had 2 different HCs in the last 3yrs, with neither giving him an ounce of support nor wanting him on the floor.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:11 pm

Lester Conner for Head Coach!!

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:15 pm

Why is Stevenson starting? Sefelosha doesn’t get buckets!!!! I think Perkins may be out with a sprained ankle though….

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
3:15 pm

LD said we won’t have trouble scoring, but that remains to be seen

I line how Ferry challenged him before the season. He also said LD was young

Viv, what exactly does Sund do these days? It’s not like he did anything as GM

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
3:17 pm

Lestwr comnor lol

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
3:18 pm

I hope LD doesn’t make it past the first 2 weeks of the season. He clearly either plays favorites with the players or doesn’t value players who are defensive and rebounding studs but limited offensively.

There’s NO WAY that Tolliver should be over Ivan except LD doesn’t truly like Ivan’s attitude. In my estimate, Tolliver shouldn’t even be on the roster before James OR Benson.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:19 pm

Lineup for tonight should be:

Teague—————–>Lou
Harris——————->Jenkins
Korver —————–>Morrow
Ivan———————>Scott
Horford—————–>Zaza

tbhawksfan

November 4th, 2012
3:20 pm

Tolliver sucks worse than Ivan

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
3:20 pm

I’m really starting to think that Fratello may end up being the next head coach of the Hawks for at least 2 seasons.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:21 pm

Hey Larry, NEWS FLASH, the other team will not have trouble scoring either Sir..

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
3:22 pm

Guys, think about something though. We say Woody is bad. However, Mike Brown couldn’t win with LEBRON, and he CAN’T win with KOBE, D12, AND NASH. Wow! I look for him to be employed by ESPN very soon, lol.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:23 pm

Tolliver will be a captain soon. Did you see his highlights on YouTube?

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
3:25 pm

I’d love to get Fratello back here

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:25 pm

With Smoove out we don’t have anyone long enough to bother KD unless you wanna put Ivan on him and start mike scott at PF….which is cool but scott will probably get abused by Ibaka.

This season has to be more about us than our opponet. We’re going to have to outrun and outGun most teams while playing solid positional defense.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:28 pm

Perkins [270lbs] out weighs Al [255lbs] by 15lbs! He’s too big..

Larry will you please get the man some help???????

sameba

November 4th, 2012
3:43 pm

When Tolliver was invited to the training camp this year, I remember he said he was very excited. He also mentioned he had good connections with some Hawks’ assistant coach and that those connections originate when he was in Cleveland. Can someone confirm this?

If so, that could explain much…

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:48 pm

Honestly, If we had just traded Marvin for Devin and left it at that, that would probably have put us over the top.

Starters:

Teague
Devin
Joe
Josh
Horford

You can still sign Lou to the MLE and Swap Korver for the 2nd round pick (Maybe). You can Still trade Willie Green to the Clippers, and you still draft Jenkins and Scott. then you keep Benson and Jason Collins (so Big Al Doesn’t throw a hissy fit)

Bench:

Lou
Jenkins
Korver
Ivan
Zaza

Spot Duty:

Mike Scott
Keith Benson
Damion James
Jason collins

Rusty

November 4th, 2012
3:49 pm

I don’t understand all the complaints against al & Jeff,makes no sense. The problem is our stupid coach who is not qualified to be a nba coach.

SuckerFree

November 4th, 2012
3:49 pm

Larry Drew’s gotta go.

That’s the bottom line.

You have some bonafide bangers that’s been here through the thick and thin and he decides to start that clown over Zaza or Ivan Johnson.

What an idiot. Tolliver is a scrub that barely made the team.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:51 pm

If Al puts up 20 and 17 there will be accolades

If Teague drops 15 an 9 there will be accolades

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:54 pm

If you cant out muscle your opponent, then you must employ finesse weaponry…..

Blodus

November 4th, 2012
3:55 pm

This season obviously is garbage. That is why LD is still the HC and hasn’t been given extension. He suks and that is why he’s being let coach this team so they can lose as much as possible. He’ll be gone by/before next season. It’s gonna be a new start starting next season and he’s gone. Just have to deal with him for one more season. All part of the plan.

Buddy Grizzard

November 4th, 2012
3:57 pm

Peter Vecsey: Should Mike Brown not make it through the season it’s safe to assume Danny Ferry will hire him 2 coach Hawks (Drew lame duck) next season. Twitter @PeterVecsey1

SuckerFree

November 4th, 2012
3:59 pm

LD makes basketball rotations and personnell seem like rocket science.

Common sense tells you that Asik is too big for Al Horford…we learned that when we played Chicago. So guess what….we have 7 ft. 275 pound contact seeker Zaza just itching to bang and when he came in guess what we got rebounds.

It’s not hard. Anthony Morrow not playing is inexcusable. He’s 6′5 (James Harden’s height) so maybe it would have bothered him just a tad. Maybe throw the rookie in and see what he could do since you chose him over Perry Jones.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
4:01 pm

Buddy G, why not keep tradition alive:

Woody>WoodyLite>WoodyLite Jr

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
4:04 pm

“If you cant out muscle your opponent, then you must employ finesse weaponry…..”

True, but LD can’t even seem to get that right. He Has Jenkis and Morrow just rotting on the bench while playing Stevenson and Tolliver extended minutes. If we’re gonna gun, it’s best to use snipers.

Like I Said:

“This season has to be more about us than our opponet. We’re going to have to outrun and outGun most teams while playing solid positional defense.”

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
4:07 pm

“If we’re gonna gun, it’s best to use snipers.”

True, so true…

ag

November 4th, 2012
4:11 pm

Tolliver has started 33 of 182 games he has played in. This is just terrible. Stevenson is PURE GARBAGE!!!!! I AM HATING LD ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!

Salic

November 4th, 2012
4:15 pm

Not playing Ivan is not gonna make him want to come back next year.

ag

November 4th, 2012
4:20 pm

How does a guy go 0-8 in the preseason and start the year going 0-3 and get the start? LD praised Ivan in previous articles but is treating him like a rookie. Korver goes 0-3 and earns a start over Hariis… JUST PLAIN DUMB!!!!

After tonigh when Durnat scores 45 will he wish James and Benson were on the team. How does a player who played less than 30 minutes in 7 preseason games hurt his back? CUT PETRO!!!

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
4:22 pm

“First of all we can’t play everybody,” Drew said. “That particular game, being the first game, I wanted to look at some specific matchups. We’ll see how it goes. I can’t play 11 or 12 guys. I just can’t do it. I’ve got to really look and play the guys who are going to be in the rotation. The other guys, as I’ve told them, are going to have to stay ready.”

******

Haha @ Drew.

This coming from a guy who routinely threw out 11 man rotations all last season, playing guys like Vlad Radmanovic over Marvin AND Ivan.

I forget which one of you said it on here, but Tolliver is definitely the new Radmanovic, in the eyes of Drew. He loves his “stretch 4″ abilities, but can’t see the overall big picture.

WHO . . IN . . THE . . HELL . . IS . . GOING . . TO . . REBOUND . . ON . . THAT . . FRONTLINE?

Rod from College Park

November 4th, 2012
4:23 pm

Jamal Crawford is averaging 25.7 ppg, 53%FG, and 47%3pt for the year. Yet some of the idiots on this blog want to talk about what a bad player he is, and how much defense he does not play. LOL. The guy is a hired assassin, and now he is on team where he will not be forced to play point guard. Look out. Would much rather have him making 5 mil per year than anyone else on this team for that price. Incompetence and the lack of understanding talent has and will continue to curse this franchise until they get people that really understand the game. Hopefully Ferry will change things.

Sautee

November 4th, 2012
4:25 pm

“It was just not a good job of rebounding,” Drew said. “That shot went up and we did not seek bodies to box out. The perimeters did not do a good job of chasing down the long rebounds. We went through that whole thing to see where the rebounds were coming from. It had nothing to do with rotations. It had nothing to do with our defensive schemes. We did not do a good job of boxing out and pursuing the ball.” – LD

Al Horford, this means YOU.

Grandad

November 4th, 2012
4:27 pm

Let me get this straight;
Toliver:
*minimum salary guy
*added to roster last
*made roster on last cut [probably should not have] ** (James)
*co-best player gets hurt / replaced by above [sad] player
*[said] player has been cut by everyone in League;
- including the Iowa Energy & the Austin Toros -
*he`s missed practice time with a scratched cornea
*not known for rebounding or defense, or offense or …….
***** Yet *****
LD is gonna Start `im vs the defending West Champeen ?
***** Yep *****
sounds about right.

gainesville#1

November 4th, 2012
4:27 pm

Eddy Curry just got released again. I say go sign him for the rest of the season

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
4:33 pm

What Drew means to say, is that the team is so out of balance, that I can’t play everybody. He has 5 SGs and 5 PFs on the team, so he can’t play everybody.

The obvious lineup to throw at the Thunder, would be this one

PG – Teague
G – Harris
F – Stevenson
PF – Horford
C – Zaza

At least with that group, you’d keep enough sped on the floor at the guard positions, while enabling the team to at least get on the boards. See if Teague and Devin can run the squad, while doing their best to slow down Westbrook.

Zaza would get to battle with Perkins, while Horford goes up against Ibaka.

Nope. Drew wants his “stretch 4″ in the game, leaving Horford all alone in the paint . . and no one else to battle for rebounds.

Let’s just hope that Josh Powell . . err . . Anthony Tolliver knocks down a few shots right off the bat.

MattP

November 4th, 2012
4:37 pm

I knew it! lol

cp

November 4th, 2012
4:39 pm

Its going to be a long season fellas. LD has no clue

ag

November 4th, 2012
4:39 pm

I think we should sign Curry as well. He certainly will get minutes on our team and make us big.

ag

November 4th, 2012
4:40 pm

I agree. This is the game Al has to step up. We need 25 -15 tonight. I also need Jeff 18-10.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
4:47 pm

Josh Howard and Quenten Richardson are available Smh….

Joe D

November 4th, 2012
4:50 pm

Why is so difficult for Drew to start Zaza at Center and move Josh to SF. Zaza at center balances the lineup. Again why pay Al $12 mil per season to play out of position. There’s no offensive rebounding opportunities with 3 SGs and forwards on the floor.
Zaza’s strenghts are toughness and offensive rebounding. The same is true for Ivan plus energy. Also, Petro may be useless, but he’s still 7 feet and 270 lbs. He can at least take up space and bang. Drew is wasting the little size that the team has. Shallow your pride and coach in the best interest of the team.
Start:
Zaza / Petro
Al / Ivan
Josh / Stevenson/Krover
Lou / Morrow
Teague / Harris

Go Hawks

Random Disclosures

November 4th, 2012
4:51 pm

Yea, Are you Al fans saying you have no confidence that and All NBA player and A budding super Guard cant get the job done?

I guess if you have no confidence what are the players thinking…?

Evidently Woody Lite has a lot of confidence in the because he is putting them out there to get the job done. So stop the whining and let see what type of players we have in Al and Jeff.

Sit back and have another sip of hateraid care of Josh Smoove Smith.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
4:54 pm

All right, I found that link:

http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/anthony_tolliver?page=2

Here is the story:
“Free-agent Anthony Tolliver said he’s intrigued by Atlanta, a team that has great interest in him. “I don’t think they have a guy on their roster with that skill set with shooting and versatility,’’ Tolliver said about being a big man who can step out on the floor. When Tolliver was with Cleveland several years ago, Hawks GM Danny Ferry was the GM there. Tolliver also said he has a “really good relationship’’ with Wes Wilcox, then with Cleveland and now Hawks assistant GM. Sulia”

So may be Tolliver is not just LD’s boy?

Blue Steel

November 4th, 2012
4:54 pm

Joe D that’s an easy one. Josh is a much better Power Forward than Al ever will be so We put our best team forward (pun) with Josh at the power forward. If Al cant handle the center then he needs to sit down.

Why is that so hard to understand?

anonymous

November 4th, 2012
5:03 pm

We are not paying Zaza 12,000,000.000, that’s what we pay Al. Cant he just win 1 freakin game?

anonymous

November 4th, 2012
5:08 pm

WHO . . IN . . THE . . HELL . . IS . . GOING . . TO . . REBOUND . . ON . . THAT . . FRONTLINE?

What? don’t we have An All NBA, 2X All star and team captian in charge? Is Al sick or dead or something?

Go ALGo AL Go AL….

beone

November 4th, 2012
5:10 pm

I for one think this is great. LD is going to get himself fired for sure. That is not a bad thing. And the Hawks get a lottery pick. That is not a bad thing. I’d rather they tank this year myself.

beone

November 4th, 2012
5:12 pm

Korver, Korver NOT Krover.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
5:15 pm

One should not ask Horford to do things that he is not capable of. There is only one guy on the roster who can consistently rebound, And you know his name – Zaza.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
5:22 pm

Rod . . . I’m on record ( not on here, but on Hawksquawk ) by saying that Jamal will have a MONSTER November, but will tail off dramatically as the season progresses.

Having said that, he looks real good right now. He said for the first time EVER, he has worked on his shooting ( by doing actual shooting type drills, instead of just playing a lot of pick-up games ). Why he is just now doing that, after 12 years in the league, and being known as one of the most erratic shooters in the NBA, is beyond me.

The guy obviously has offensive talent, he just had piss poor shot selection over the years. The fact that he has more FT attempts ( 26 ) than he has 3 point attempts ( 19 ) . . for the first time since the 2005 – 06 season . . maybe this is the “new smarter Jamal” that we’re seeing in Clipperland.

We’ll see though.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
5:24 pm

No Josh, no Iso,

It appears to be your TEAM ALLSTAR AL!!!!

They will be quite a few eyes watching you perform tonight under a microscope!

Hope your ready????

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
5:24 pm

Sautee, with the step back 3! Bang!

Jason S

November 4th, 2012
5:25 pm

I hope Danny Ferry has an active line of communication with Denver open.

Denver is one of the few teams in the league that can afford to trade off both a rotational quality center and a starting quality SF.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
5:26 pm

[There]^^^^^

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
5:35 pm

Al could grab 13 boards today, and we may still get killed, because we’ll get no rebounding from the PF and SF spots.

Ivan and Zaza have a knack for grabbing offensive rebounds. If we’re going to be a run and gun team, we need more guys on the floor who can gobble up misses.

I just don’t know what Drew has against Ivan. Outside of Horford and Smith, he’s obviously the most well rounded frontline player on the team ( and that includes him being over Zaza )

But Tolliver must be the new “teacher’s pet” this year. And judging by that post from Sameba at 4:54 pm, he may be the “principal’s pet” ( Ferry’s pet ) too.

That’s why I keep pointing out that a lot of the lack of balance on this team right now, has a LOT to do with Ferry and his offseason moves AFTER the JJ trade.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
5:36 pm

I don’t understand why not start Zaza. If he gets tired or in foul trouble there is Ivan out there, or move Horford to the C, like in the present starting lineup…

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
5:43 pm

Bottom.line …we will win by 8….blahhhh

cp

November 4th, 2012
5:54 pm

@ Jason S, I was just saying that during the last game. Denver would be the perfect trading partner. They need a shooter and we have plenty of them. They have a lot of sf’s and we need one. Makes sense to me to call them up and get something done..

And great point northcyde. I hope Ivan gets a lot of pt tonight but with LD you never know. I dont understand whats so hard about just starting Zaza and Al together. Tolliver isn’t a good defender nor is he a good rebounder. The guards are going to have to help on the glass tonight. I could see Ibaka with a Asik type performance on the glass tonight.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
6:11 pm

I don’t have time to post a very long message because I am watching three football games at the same time, but I just wanted to check in here real quick to say LD IS A F-CKING IDIOT FIRE THIS MORON

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
6:12 pm

Tolliver = this year’s version of Josh Powell

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
6:13 pm

Larry drew up there in okc tricking off lol he trippin

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
6:18 pm

I would’ve rather have Andrey Blatche taking Josh Smith place than Anthony Tolliver….

James

November 4th, 2012
6:19 pm

Im very confused…. all preseason we heard LD say he wanted to focus on defense right? what does he do when picking the last roster spot, picks a 6-8 PF who likes to shoot over a 6-8 small forward who like to hustle, defend, and rebound.

then

after we got owned on the boards in game 1 LD says we have to rebound better. What does he do, starts the same 6-8 PF who sat behind the arc all game shooting 3’s???

am i missing something? Stuff like this is seriously frustrating because we ALL know its a recipe for failure tonight. We have so many pieces to use that are probably more talented than Tolliver yet he “cant” play everybody.

Bad move Drew, Tolliver is not the answer please dont put us through this all year.

Give me IVAN, give me SCOTT. Those 2 earned their spots on this team by actually producing on the floor and not just in shooting drills smh

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
6:24 pm

By the way guys, lets see who has a bigger game tonight. Jenkins or PJIII, lol.

cp

November 4th, 2012
6:27 pm

No need to be confused James. As Ive learned with LD, whatever he says then it usually means the opposite.

lewis

November 4th, 2012
6:28 pm

second I got wind of Tolliver joining the HAwks training camp roster I predicted this would happen. Tolliver is incapable of starting. Ivan was a friggin d league star

PD

November 4th, 2012
6:31 pm

Terrible Lineup. They’re gonna get killed on the interior.

BIG DOG

November 4th, 2012
6:36 pm

Somebody please tell me what’s Danny Ferry dream for Hawks shure hope it’s not LD ?

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

BIG DOG

November 4th, 2012
6:37 pm

Worst player on the team, not only that he is the starting PF tonight, JUST DAM

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
6:39 pm

Sign Josh Howard. We need wings

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
6:42 pm

Ferry said at town hall meeting we can contend within 2 yrs. outside of getting CP3 and Dwight, I just don’t see how this is possible

Northcyde, great post on PeachtreeHoops about Ferry a day or two ago. I reposted it on here on the Smoove Ankle blog. Ferry really does have his work cut out for him

vava74

November 4th, 2012
6:54 pm

I don’t mind losing when it happens after a good effort top to bottom.

This is freaking joke. Tolliver starting is a pathetic move by LD.

The guy is clueless.

vava74

November 4th, 2012
6:57 pm

I am REALLY missing Woody, which already very telling how bad LD is.

Woody has zero Xs ‘n Os in him but he would never start Tolliver over Ivan, nor cut James.

He is stubborn but he rewards hard workers (Mario).

paian

November 4th, 2012
6:59 pm

perkins is playing tonight btw

Dwight,CP3,J-Smoove next year

November 4th, 2012
7:02 pm

we need to bring john jenkins in the game, he can actually shoot and make it.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
7:06 pm

vava74:

I would not keep Tolliver on the roster at all. And I doubt LD would even play him on a consistent basis if he had not given some instructions from DF. It seems some “politics” is involved here. And LD is too weak to protest. However, this is only my opinion, although not unfounded.

I do not know how it works in America, but there should be some way to show DF that fans are deeply dissatisfied with his last decision to keep Tolliver and cut James, e.g. is it ethical to bring some posters to the games?

lewis

November 4th, 2012
7:06 pm

i’d rather see jenkins / james than stevenson and tolliver wtf

Dwight,CP3,J-Smoove next year

November 4th, 2012
7:13 pm

stevenson, did pretty good. on the other hand, tolliver cannot hit a shot or box out like half of the team.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
7:16 pm

Tolliver starting at PF after has putrid display in the opener is typical Lame Duck think (I coined the moniker “Lame Duck” on this blogs many moons ago lol.) I would like t say I’m shocked but I’m really not. Lame Duck loves to play loser scrubs like they are bonafide ballers.

BasketballTopFan(c)

November 4th, 2012
7:19 pm

Basketball Top Fan and basketball fans worldwide would like to wish all the teams in the National Basketball Association (NBA) the best of luck and success in the 2012/2013 season.

We Love Basketball !!!

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Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:20 pm

There appears to be a connect Larry Drew or the intent is to sink it? Hmmmmm

Najeh: you forgot to insert the word [Anal] before [Moron]! LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:21 pm

“It’s skill and strategy, not luck” -unknown-

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:24 pm

Or in the case of Hawk fans: 45 years of Hope….

One can only [Hope] that Tolliver will find his [Stroke] tonight?

paian

November 4th, 2012
7:29 pm

i hope tolliver picks up 2 quick fouls

Rusty

November 4th, 2012
7:30 pm

Grandad well I guess you finally are getting smart about LD or maybe you just
Liked to argue with me last year when you would try to tell me that he was doing a good job.

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
7:34 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

LD, what the hell is going through his mind?? Did he watch the game on Friday?? Tolliver was absolute sh*t!! We, of course, have Ivan and can start him ahead of Tolliver, or, you can move Al to the 4 and start Zaza, or, you can start Deshawn at the 3 and have Al and Zaza at the 4 and 5, or you could have even kept Damion James and started him at the 3. Starting Tolliver is a joke, this guy should get no more than 5 minutes MAX per game.

Who knows, maybe Ferry wants us to get a lottery pick or something, that’s the only way I can believe this start…

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
7:37 pm

LOL Paian! the 2 foul rule – that’s the ticket

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
7:39 pm

I would start Morrow and Ivan over korver and tolliver! Drew constantly overthinks he makes things more complicated then they should be! I was giving Drew an earfull and I will do the same on Weds until we get this clown out of town! The players dont even listen to him in the huddle. Fire coach drew!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:39 pm

insert[disconnect] ^^^^

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:40 pm

Larry, your too smart for your own good Sir!

Rusty

November 4th, 2012
7:41 pm

How can he over think when he doesn’t have any brains?

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:44 pm

Woody took Maimi to the Woodshed Friday night!!!!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
7:45 pm

He beat Miami like a drumstick!!!!!!

Woody> WoodyLite

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
7:47 pm

On a serious note, the team we saw on Friday is the one that we expected, and the one we will see many more times this season. This team is FULL of shooters and we will live and die by our shooting night in night out. Friday was a bad day shooting wise for us, but who knows, if we can have more good nights than bad, we might just be able to make some noise this season.

tyger

November 4th, 2012
7:52 pm

Teague Airball Line

vs. OK = 2

MattP

November 4th, 2012
7:52 pm

Runner-,

Didn’t look at it that way but that is probably why Ferry keep Drew around, to get a lottery pick. lol

tyger

November 4th, 2012
7:53 pm

Teague Brick Line

vs. OK = 3

ECF or Bust!

November 4th, 2012
7:59 pm

is it true Ferry suspended osh for behavior detrimental to the team? and is covering it up with the ankle excuse. It’s about time somebody brought some discipline to this team. there is no I in team, osh.

somedawg

November 4th, 2012
8:03 pm

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:09 pm

Horford must have a HUGE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:10 pm

This should be good. Tolliver blocking out against Ibaka.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:10 pm

Rusty

November 4th, 2012
8:11 pm

Tuber get a life

Smokey

November 4th, 2012
8:11 pm

Man that starting lineup is UGLY uggh this is gonna be nasty..

Rusty

November 4th, 2012
8:12 pm

Tyger get off JTs back

MattP

November 4th, 2012
8:15 pm

Well looks like Horford is stepping it up this game.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:18 pm

Horford has started out ballin’ but Tolliver is sorry.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
8:18 pm

And Tolliver is a complete waste.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:19 pm

Mark@ 6:23, 1st Qtr lead lost. Its a wrap….

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
8:19 pm

Tolliver sucks he should be coming off the bench! Free Ivan!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:20 pm

Teague coming off a screen is shooting one ugly shot!

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:20 pm

Hello Horford Haters!!!!

tank

November 4th, 2012
8:21 pm

I think us Atlanta fans are just waiting for Falcons on Sunday night

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:22 pm

Stevenson is a BUM – Boiling Unadulterated Mess.

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
8:22 pm

why the f…k is tolliver in the …he hit three n middle me typin lol

don't

November 4th, 2012
8:22 pm

don’t matterr how many points they score if they don’t play no defense

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:23 pm

Sweet move by JT0!!

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:23 pm

Pretty move by Teague. Flying around on defense too.

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
8:23 pm

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:23 pm

Perkins is no KAREEM with that hook.

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
8:24 pm

JT came to play today

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:24 pm

An Ivan Sighting????????????????????

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:24 pm

Welcome Ivan Johnson.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:25 pm

Big Ivan in the Place

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:26 pm

JT penetration is paying off..

Looks like AL and Teague are steppin up!

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
8:26 pm

Teague can be one of the best PGs in this league if he plays with this enthusiasm night in night out…

vava74

November 4th, 2012
8:26 pm

Teague doing a good job.

Horford too

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:27 pm

And people want to get rid of Teague? Lol dude is putting in work

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
8:27 pm

They can’t check Teague if he keeps driving we straight! Now just put Zaza in for Tolliver

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
8:27 pm

Teague is essential for the Hawks to become a LETHAL team. Once he establishes his penetration, he can start kicking it out to the likes of Korver and Lou or even Al, who can easily knock em down.

Runner-

November 4th, 2012
8:28 pm

And LD takes him out…

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:28 pm

Not fair Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:28 pm

Why in carnation would u take Teague out right now??

vava74

November 4th, 2012
8:28 pm

WTF is LD doing? Again!

Teague was on fire!

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
8:29 pm

I would’ve left Teague out there

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:29 pm

I like this second unit. Lou, Harris, Stevenson, Ivan, and ZaZa.

tank

November 4th, 2012
8:30 pm

Morrow sighting!

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:31 pm

Tyger is the same guy who thought RandyMo was a stud.Same guy who thought that pg we cut last year was going to be a stud. Is he even in the league? Its safe to say tyger is as clueless as LD

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
8:31 pm

Morrow!

Oh and is he playing at the Small Foward spot??? What a novel Idea LD!!!

Smh….

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:32 pm

Who want some of Deebo?

tyger

November 4th, 2012
8:32 pm

Watch closely how much better Sweet Lou is at PG?

Teague at his best penetrating and pressure defense…
But, Lou has the whole package…

And that’s what we need most…

lewis

November 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

big ivan bring it down

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

WOW – very impressive start by the Hawks.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

60% shooting sure helps..

Mr.E

November 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

Is it wrong that I get a boner when I see Ivan crashing boards?

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

What’s that? Hawks with a 30 point first quarter AND the lead? I should predict gloom and doom more often…

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
8:34 pm

If Ivan played against rockets we would’ve won!

vava74

November 4th, 2012
8:34 pm

Nice first quarter. I think OKC underestimated us.

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:34 pm

LOL@ Mr. E …..

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:35 pm

With Horford, Teague, Zaza, AND Ivan going off, we MIGHT just get a W tonight!! And WITHOUT JOSH SMITH, YALL HORFORD HATERS!! HA HA HA

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:36 pm

Yea tyger great pg skills by Lou there smh lol

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:37 pm

Slimjr – I think Megabus is a little cheaper to ship LD outta here on than Greyhound, lol.
All this team’s gains are, of course, in spite of his stewardship.

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:37 pm

Ha ha….Thabeet caught putting an elbow on top of Zaza’s head.

tyger

November 4th, 2012
8:38 pm

RandMo won the China Basketball Championship with Marbury…
We gave up too soon on a young, local, athletic, true 7fter…
Look at our bench now???

Donald Sloan avg. 5.3ppg, 3.1 assists in 15mpg for Cleveland…

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:38 pm

DAYUM Ivan beasting on OKC

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:38 pm

Josh WHOOOOOO

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
8:38 pm

Ivan with a mugging!!!! Crimes in OKC I Tell Ya!!!!

MattP

November 4th, 2012
8:38 pm

Zaza to Ivan, wow. lol

Mr.E

November 4th, 2012
8:39 pm

Okay I admit, that dunk by Mr.Terrible made me come a little bit…

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:39 pm

And your response says it all..give it up dude

tank

November 4th, 2012
8:39 pm

I really hate Larry Drew, after seeing Ivan slam it and getting a DNP two days ago

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:39 pm

Boy Boy Boy, I bet OKC missing Harden right about now

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:40 pm

Lou shouldn’t get that close to Marvin. He might be hungry.

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:40 pm

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:40 pm

And Teague once again

Shamrock

November 4th, 2012
8:40 pm

I wish i was there to clean that up for u Mr E. :)

lewis

November 4th, 2012
8:42 pm

this second unit is better than any lineup ld’s played so far

tank

November 4th, 2012
8:42 pm

I bet Najeh at the Falcons game

vava74

November 4th, 2012
8:42 pm

If Westbrook is out, we should have a decent chance at winning this one.

Atlhawksfan

November 4th, 2012
8:43 pm

Hawks looking good with ivan out there finally LD did something right. Hawks future pf Ivan the Terrible

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:43 pm

Larry is the

Chris

November 4th, 2012
8:44 pm

Enter your comments here

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:44 pm

weakest link

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
8:44 pm

Life without Midrange Shawty

- no errant shots
- no lazy box outs
- guards controlling the offense
- Teague more aggressive
- Horford getting more touches

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:45 pm

Teague putting in work. This is how I want him to play on a consistent basis..And LD is a clown for not playing Ivan last game

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
8:45 pm

See thats a dumb move subbin ivan out zaza should’ve came out instead

Chris

November 4th, 2012
8:45 pm

Zara + Ivan = warriors!

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:47 pm

Watch out northcyde, you know how the Josh Smith fans get on here

paian

November 4th, 2012
8:49 pm

anthony morrow playing some aggressive defense i must say

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:49 pm

northcyde,

I wouldnt be surprise that Josh’s father and/or camp is letting Josh know that the Hawks, really dont NEED him. Yes, Josh is huge but isnt a necessity and his HUGE contract could be in jeopardy!!

tjhook

November 4th, 2012
8:49 pm

Love Ivan proving to Loser Dude that Tolliver belongs on the bench. I hope Smith is watching Jeff Teague represent! Teague showing me something!

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

Nice, Morrow.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

No argument there northcyde…Larry does not demand more from Josh or show him who is the Boss..

Josh would have been benched by a real coach! Did not Woody bench him before?

Larry is the problem and tonight just cements it…

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

Very good sequence by Morrow on both ends.

tjhook

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

ZAZA hustling – i luv it.

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

Damn….where was all this against Houston?

Morrow picked Durant CLEAN….

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
8:50 pm

Zaza doing what he do. Love how aggressive this team is tonight.

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:51 pm

Morrow with the take away?? Zaza with the put back!!

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
8:51 pm

Y’ALL REMEMBER THAT AMMO JUST D’ UP KD AND SCORE ON HIM AT THE SF SPOT.

IF MO EVANS CAN PLAY THERE THEN SO CAN AMMO!!!!

Hawkfan

November 4th, 2012
8:51 pm

First blog of year for me. Missed the opener but saw where no Ivan. What a joke

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
8:52 pm

Why not give Jenkins a try instead of Korver??

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:52 pm

who is this Korver Klone. Not the same guy in Chicago

Mr.E

November 4th, 2012
8:53 pm

I don’t care if we don’t even finish over .500, I’d take watching these Hawks over ISO-Joe Hawks any day of the week…

tjhook

November 4th, 2012
8:53 pm

Tolliver is still expendable. Bring back Damien James for help defense and offensive scrapping

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:53 pm

Korver cant buy a shot

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
8:54 pm

MsDee you so right. Jenkins would probably hit those missed Korver shots.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

November 4th, 2012
8:54 pm

All is good when Big Ivan is in the game.

BIG IVAN FOR PRESIDENT

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
8:54 pm

Playing well. 48 minutes!!

tjhook

November 4th, 2012
8:54 pm

Good taking of charge Tolliver . . . The earlier comment is still in effect.

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:55 pm

Northcyde ,

Careful….”midrange shawty” has some rabid fans. Even if he never will be a top player or #1 scoring option on a championship contender.

We could not build around Joe. We cannot build around Josh. We have to build differently, and some folks don’t get it – that could “cost” us Josh or Al. Or both. One never knows…

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
8:55 pm

Korver missed 2 FTs. Wtf?

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
8:55 pm

Get Ivan back in this game

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
8:55 pm

Hawks are going after it

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

November 4th, 2012
8:56 pm

My starting Lineup

PG- Teague
sg-Morrow
sg-Big Ivan
pf-Horford
C-Zaza

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:56 pm

Perimeter defense has been better tonight…effort-wise if nothing else.

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Horford looks a lot more like a warrior tonight.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Sit Korver..He is ICE COLD

cp

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Stevenson has to knock down those open jumpers

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Who the hell is this female ref?

Hawkfan

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Korver could sit down for a while. Just sayin

vava74

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Oh please, just get Tolliver out of there.

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
8:57 pm

Our starting lineup is weak get korver and Tolliver out of there!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
8:59 pm

Al is playing so much better tonight!

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:00 pm

Krover is terrible….

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:00 pm

Martin can get buckets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
9:00 pm

WTF is up with Korver?

tank

November 4th, 2012
9:00 pm

WTF happened to Korver? he was automatic in Chi town. Teague!!!

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
9:00 pm

OMG…..TEAGUE!!!

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
8:55 pm

Northcyde ,

Careful….”midrange shawty” has some rabid fans. Even if he never will be a top player or #1 scoring option on a championship contender.

We could not build around Joe. We cannot build around Josh. We have to build differently, and some folks don’t get it – that could “cost” us Josh or Al. Or both. One never knows…

******

Midrange Shawty is a great complimentary player when he plays within himself. But he’s no #1 scoring option, and should never be taking 17+ shots a game unless he’s shooting a very high percentage.

Tolliver and Korver are preventing the Hawks from extending this lead. Get them out.

WOW TEAGUE !!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

TEAGUE

We gotta start hitting these 3s

Mr.E

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

TEAGUE NASTY

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

JT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Atlhawksfan

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

Cmon LD get Ivan back in

nobody

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

Who needs CP3. We have JT0!

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

@MsDee

MsDee
November 4th, 2012
8:39 pm

Boy Boy Boy, I bet OKC missing Harden right about now
————————————————————————

No, OKC [executives] are kicking themselves because they now [fully] realize they gave the wrong guy a max contract – “Wesbrick” instead of the “Bearded One”.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:01 pm

KD foul Teague twice and didnt get call once….

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

Playing so well but only up 1

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

The Ant got POSTERIZED by Teague.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

No Josh, and Teague is playing like this is HIS TEAM.

Coincidence?

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

TOP10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

Jenkins come in PLEASE!!

nobody

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

Kevin Martin is the one reason I thought both teams got good things out of that trade. Martin may be the most underrated player in the league.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

Jeff mf’n Teague

tjhook

November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm

Still need an inside prescience to help relieve pressure from the guards! Josh smith fall in line! Too many jumpers still . . .

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:03 pm

Stevie is a bum. Korver is done.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:03 pm

Why is Tolliver in the game?

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:03 pm

As great as the Hawks have played, we’re losing, because Drew refuses to sit these low percentage gunners.

Zaza restores order.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:04 pm

Stevenson,Tolliver, and Korver are bricking that’s why the lead has evaporated! Oh Boy!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:04 pm

If we hit these 3s we would be up huge

48 minutes!!!

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:04 pm

If our shooters could knock doen a damn shot we would lead this game

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:05 pm

Larry will out coach himself and lose….

terrell

November 4th, 2012
9:05 pm

Tolliver must be kin to LD.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:05 pm

I meant knock down

J.J.M.

November 4th, 2012
9:05 pm

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

Can anybody stop Martin?
LD sux as usual with his substitutions.

vava74

November 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

That is what I call an escort service.

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

“K-Mart” is a pure shooter/scorer; can’t leave him open. He [K. Martin] could possibly be an early SMOY candidate along with you know who. Yeah, you guessed it – JAMAL CRAWFORD!!!!!!

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

It’s bad enough that Tolliver and Krover can’t play defense but now they can’t even shoot as good as advertise prior to joining the Hawks. What a waste.

paian

November 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

korver is killing us with all the open 3 misses but ld wont take him out smh

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
9:06 pm

larry drew took out the correct squad so we could be trailing by the half lmao crazyyyy head case I meant head coach

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:07 pm

at Terrell – they are kissing cousins, smdh.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:07 pm

Ivan could be a SMOY top 10 candidate if the dang coach made a commitment to play him more minutes.

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
9:08 pm

Drew is RETARDED!! Try Jenkins PLEASE instead of COLD AS ICE Korver!!

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:09 pm

We need more Zaza and Ivan in the second half.Korver is leaving everything short, Stevenson cant hit open shots, and Tolliver is whatever

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:10 pm

LArry is Brutal..

vava74

November 4th, 2012
9:11 pm

Damion James was cut because he can’t shoot… Couldn’t be doing anything worse than Tolliver.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
9:11 pm

For a so-called lights-out shooter, Korver sure misses a lot of open 3s. Always seemed that way to me even when he was a Bull, and it hasn’t changed now.

Teague and Zaza looked good. Al had a few nice offensive moves too, which is always a good sign.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:11 pm

Megabus does ride out LA so Grey hound it is for the loser dunce. worst coach in the game pro or college.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:12 pm

OKC went on an 18-5 run to end the half. Oh Boy!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:12 pm

We had our chance. Thunder will pull away in 3rd and win by 13

Nate ArchiBALL

November 4th, 2012
9:13 pm

The female ref is Brenda Pantoja – WNBA and NBDL veteran.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:15 pm

Ivan only played less than 7mins and scored 6pts/2rebs. Tolliver almost 15mins and scored 2pts/2rebs. Why? Please fire LD.

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:16 pm

As I digress, if the Lakers don’t get a win tonight [vs. the Pistons] at home, I have two words for [HC] Mike Brown – “PINK SLIP.”

The Magic [team] is kickin’ some backside with Dwight Howard. Maybe, he [D. Howard] is/was a “team cancer.”

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
9:16 pm

Teague
Harris
Morrow
JSmoove
Horford

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:17 pm

^Correction: The Magic [team] is kickin’ some backside [without*] Dwight Howard.

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
9:17 pm

Thats why its a luxury to have multiple sharp shooters on your team so when your top shooters are off (Korver), u try the next best sharp shooter(J.Jenkins). Not that it would matter but if I was Jenkins right about now, I would show my face around Drew or maybe the assistant coach(cant remember his name) and say, “Would LOVE to show you what I can do out there”. Like I said, might not make a difference but then again, step out of the norm and make yourself standout from a “rookie”. U never know, just MIGHT work..but then again, your head coach IS Drew..dang!!

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
9:17 pm

Northcyde ,

One has to wonder…will Ferry give Josh a chance under a new/better coach? Of course, the second question is whether or not Josh will accept coaching that does NOT revolve around “oh please be my team captain and be a floor leader”….two things I never thought Josh was…but what do I know…

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:18 pm

And Teague still doesnt get calls from the refs. He was fouled on at least two drives to the hoop

GBRfan

November 4th, 2012
9:20 pm

Tolliver’s strong and smart. He’ll do very well.

vava74

November 4th, 2012
9:21 pm

MsDee,

The kid probably does not know the sets yet.

Korver looks out of shape but he knows where to go to and whom to pass.

LD seems to give importance always to things not entirely related to what is happening on the court.

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
9:21 pm

What I mean by that is Josh as an offensive leader. He knows the plays, knows where guys are supposed to be…but doesn’t seem to get some other things…like he’s a “finisher” on a break, not the ball-handler. Or cutting to the ball instead of standing around, setting picks so other guys can get free and get open shots, knowing when to take that jumper and when NOT to….

This is why a pg and/or an exceptional wing player (Lebron, Wade, etc) runs the offense…

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
9:21 pm

On defense, Josh IS the pg…

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:22 pm

Big Ray . . . Josh is in a contract year. He’s not going to scale back his game for the sake of the team. He needs to put up numbers.

Horford with a JJ-like post up, fade away jumper. What was that?

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
9:22 pm

Forced shot by Al. Nothing wrong with passing back out.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:22 pm

Horford has no offensive move but he wants more touches….

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:22 pm

JJ Redick is ballin’ [too] off the bench.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:23 pm

Al has to finish that

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:23 pm

Danger time.

All of a sudden, Al is 4 – 11 FG.

Stevenson with an air ball.

OK Larry, do something.

terrell

November 4th, 2012
9:23 pm

I’m sure Jenkins can give us more than Deshawn. smh

MattP

November 4th, 2012
9:24 pm

This reminds me of last year, 2nd units does great and then Drew sends back in the starters. lol

Big Ray

November 4th, 2012
9:24 pm

Mike Jenkins will have to wait until next season, it’s just that simple. Learning LD’s offense will do him no good, he won’t get to play for LD (thank God…would ruin the kid).

Best thing he can do is keep shooting, work really hard on defense in practice, and practice getting to the basket/foul line. Get ready for next season…

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
9:25 pm

vava74, might be truue but it STILL doesnt hurt to try him since Korver cant throw a penny in the ocean

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:25 pm

Please get Tolliver out of the game

O'Brien

November 4th, 2012
9:26 pm

Ra’mon,

OKC would not want Horford. They already have Perkins at Center, with money left on his deal, and Ilbaka st PF who they just signed to an extension, so where would Horford play?

And Teague wil command at least $6 mil next year, so OKC will not pay that money for a bckup PG (he would play behind Westbrook).

Ms Dee,

Kevin Martin (who took over for Harden) has 22 first half points. OKC does not miss Harden as yet (imo).

AJ,

Teague looks much better so far this game (and more confident). Here is a conspiracy theory. Maybe the presence of Josh Smith on the floor throws him off his game (for whatever reason).

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:26 pm

Teague once again

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:26 pm

Gotta love Westbrick. Shoot us back in the game please.

Then the bonehead foul.

There you go Al.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:27 pm

Russell going crazy . . haha.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
9:27 pm

tyger, how many of your female relatives has Teague had sex with?

Nice game from him, keeping the Hawks close.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:27 pm

Teague can not buy a foul call

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:27 pm

Wtf Teague was clearly fouled but good putback Al

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:28 pm

Tolliver make a shot. Yay

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:28 pm

Tolliver hits a 3 so that means he’s going to play the entire 2nd half

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:29 pm

Man, sit him down if he’s cold.

Now Russell gets hot . . smh.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:29 pm

Maybe Krover should pass up the open 3 shot….

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:29 pm

COME ON KORVER

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
9:29 pm

Get KORVER BUTT OUT, DREWWWWWWWWWW…DANG

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:29 pm

Thank u Tolliver but its clear Korver aint got it tonight..Get Morrow in

paian

November 4th, 2012
9:30 pm

sigh i wish korver can find his place back on the bench where he belongs

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
9:31 pm

Get Korver out if he’s hot i understand but of he’s not put Morrow or Jenkins in

MsDee

November 4th, 2012
9:31 pm

Jenkins Jenkins Jenkins Jenkins…but I guess, Morrow instead

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:32 pm

Teague needs to work on that left hand dribble drive…

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:32 pm

They refuse to give Teague a call but good shot by Stevenson

O'Brien

November 4th, 2012
9:34 pm

This team would be so much better if we had kept James, given him minutes, reduced Korver and Tolliver’s minutes, and give Ivan and Morrow more minutes.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:34 pm

Stevenson barely played on a sorry Net team. Why is he a main cog here?

tyger

November 4th, 2012
9:35 pm

najeh – only your mother!

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:36 pm

“The Big Fundamental II” = Al Horford

Korver shouldn’t have fouled K. Perkins on that low post move. Perkins has no offensive game.

MattP

November 4th, 2012
9:36 pm

WTH is wrong with this coach? Ivan should be in there.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:36 pm

Al is playing tough now..

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:36 pm

I am loving this vintage Horford.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:36 pm

Can’t believe Korver missed all those shots

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:36 pm

Love to see Horford battling.

I keep saying that a leadership battle is going to develop between Josh and Al sometime this year.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:38 pm

Time to.get Ivan in

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:38 pm

soullrenaissance
November 4th, 2012
9:34 pm

Stevenson barely played on a sorry Net team. Why is he a main cog here?

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Because he’s playing well?

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:39 pm

Dallas up 3-0..

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:40 pm

Kirk H>Korver all day!

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:41 pm

Nice move by Devin Harris. Morrow needs more minutes.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:42 pm

There you go Morrow.

2nd unit sparking it again

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:42 pm

Nice move by Devin.Yes sir Morrow

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:42 pm

I’m praying KD and RW don’t go off in the 4th

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:43 pm

Morrow deserves more playing time

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
9:44 pm

I guess you think Tolliver is too. Stevenson playing well is over stating matters. Teague is play well. Martin is playing well.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:46 pm

Love the effort tonight

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:46 pm

This Hawks [group] is competing. Give them [the players] some credit for not “laying down and rolling over.”

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
9:47 pm

Great pass Zaza

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:47 pm

Good defense Morrow

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:48 pm

Drew simply needs to adopt a philosophy of not getting guys a certain about of minutes, outside of Teague, Horford and Smith. On most nights, those will be our most consistent players on both ends of the floor.

Everybody elses minutes should be based on production ONLY.

Zaza with the backdoor to Ivan. Gotta love that.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:48 pm

I don’t want to see Tolliver back on the floor the rest of the night… Heck, Krover neither…

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:49 pm

Durant will have to play the entire 4th…

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:49 pm

Julio Jones just caught a loooong pass!

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:50 pm

How come Durant get to shoot free throws? He wasn’t fouled.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:50 pm

yeah . . Devin is getting cut tonight from the fantasy team. So if any of you want him, he’ll be available tomorrow.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:51 pm

Bad shot Lou

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:51 pm

Falcons miss 37yarder! Oh Boy!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
9:52 pm

Ivan is the only big man the Hawks have who consistently cuts to the basket on offense. All the more reason why he should be playing more.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:52 pm

Ivan is the man.

Drew looks so stupid everytime he tries to explain why that dude isn’t playing.

And he bet not take out Ivan because of that offensive foul

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
9:52 pm

I’d like to take this time to once again mention how idiotic it is to ever schedule a Hawks game at the same time as a Falcons game.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:54 pm

Martin=Harden

OKC aint missing a beat in the 6th man department..

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:54 pm

Will K-Mart finish [tonight's game] over/under 30 points off the bench?

vava74

November 4th, 2012
9:55 pm

Close outs have been atrocious…

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:55 pm

Why is Morrow on the bench?

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:55 pm

So Woody crushes Philly tonight too???

2-0????? Nice….

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:56 pm

And he DID take out Ivan.

How about rolling with Horford and Ivan?

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:56 pm

LD and his rotations smh

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:56 pm

Falcons’ secondary just got burnt on a big pass play.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
9:56 pm

K-Martin with 25pts.

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
9:57 pm

Put Teague back in dummy!

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:57 pm

Ivan and Morrow with the early hook again. LD needs his azz whup

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:57 pm

Al is the true “Midrange Shawty”

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
9:58 pm

Teague has been out whole 4th qtr

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
9:58 pm

Lou Williams with a “sweet” 3 right there. That was pretty.

cp

November 4th, 2012
9:59 pm

Where is Teague?

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
9:59 pm

These refs are killing the Hawks…

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
9:59 pm

This ref is garbage

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
9:59 pm

Teague and Ivan need to be finishing this game.

No Zaza or Tolliver or Korver or Harris.

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:00 pm

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:01 pm

LD clearly doesn’t like Teague. No reason why Teague shouldn’t be in the game now.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:01 pm

Lou with the tricky dribble!

ntrigue

November 4th, 2012
10:01 pm

Put Teague in for Harris Drew is always guilty of staying with certain subs too long!

paian

November 4th, 2012
10:02 pm

man teague should be in right now, not devin

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
10:02 pm

Zaza has played well. I have no problem with him finishing the game. But Teague should be in over Harris.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:03 pm

Sweet Lou. sweet 3 point play.

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:05 pm

What does LD have against Ivan Johnson? He’s [I. Johnson] tallied 10pts and 4rebs in 12:15 [of playing time].

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:05 pm

Louuuuuuuuuuuu

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:05 pm

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:05 pm

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:06 pm

Lou Williams is ballin’. It looks like there’s going to be a long list of SMOY candidates this season.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:06 pm

No reason why Teague shouldn’t be in the game…..

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:07 pm

Lou looks like he’s posing on those jumpers!!!

Just a thang of beauty!!!!!Those jumpers!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:07 pm

Martin GETS BUCKETS! He has 28 off the bench!

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:08 pm

Get Teague back in

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:08 pm

For you people that think Martin = Harden . . . remember that Harden handles the ball and penetrates like a PG. He can not only score, but create scoring opportunities for others.

Martin can shoot the lights out when hot. But his all-around game isn’t like Harden’s.

Please get Teague back in this game, before the lead completely evaporates.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:08 pm

Teague may have been demoted and we did not get the memo yet?????

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:09 pm

So, LD doesn’t “trust” JT0 to close out close games? That does wonders for Teague’s confidence as a [young] starting point guard [sarcasm + smh].

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:09 pm

Yes sirrr Al

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:09 pm

Westbrook with the assist to Horford! LOL!

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:09 pm

Russell giving us the game.

There you go Al.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
10:09 pm

Transition defense is not very good.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:09 pm

Great assist by Westbrook. But to the wrong team you dummy….

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:10 pm

Westbrook= Josh! Bonehead play? Yes…..

O'Brien

November 4th, 2012
10:10 pm

northcyde,

it is interesting that Josh said he is mid-range shawty. Why couldnt he be post man shawty?

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:10 pm

“Big Fundamental 2.0″ [aka Al Horford] with the dunk

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:11 pm

KEEP GRINDIN

vava74

November 4th, 2012
10:11 pm

Thank god that Brooks is not that good of a coach.

He hasn’t been posting Durant so he can use his height advantage over Stephenson.

Only play he ran like that in the first half was a bucket.

michael

November 4th, 2012
10:11 pm

lol assist from westbrook to horford

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:12 pm

Hawkfan

November 4th, 2012
10:12 pm

Great pass ZaZa

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:12 pm

POST HIGH AND LOW! NICE!!!!!

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:12 pm

Horford playing like a center tonight.

Take us home Al.

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:12 pm

Westbrick with the brick 3. Yay!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

Another great post entry by Zaza to Al. Zaza killing it with the passes today. 5 assists.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

Russell W. is chucker, lol.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

Big 3 by Stevenson….

Hawkfan

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

michael

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

stevenson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

Another great pass from Zaza.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

I give Stevenson is props for that one. He shut me up.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

Mr.E

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:13 pm

Stevenson…yes sirrrrrrr

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:14 pm

tyger

November 4th, 2012
10:14 pm

Guess who’s not on the floor?

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:14 pm

Iso-Joe to Iso-Jamal to Iso-Lou. What’s the difference? Where’s that so-called “Motion Offense”? Nice 3 D. Stevenson aka “Team Crazy Guy.”

Hawkfan

November 4th, 2012
10:14 pm

Maybe we’re all stupid and LD is really a genius. Nah, I won’t accept it. Great win though

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:14 pm

Horford looks so comfortable out there. Is it because Smoove is out?

Russell who?

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:15 pm

@ O’Brien

Because Josh is soft, like JJ was. Neither guy wanted to mix it up on the inside. That’s why Josh is “Midrange Shawty”.

Or Wannabe Midrange Shawty.

He needs to be Cut to the Basket Shawty.

Jason S

November 4th, 2012
10:15 pm

I’m guessing Teague is not on the floor b/c Drew doesn’t want Teague and Lou on the floor at the same time (way too small). Drew has decided to go w/ Lou over Teague. Too bad for Teague. He was having a great game.

O'Brien

November 4th, 2012
10:16 pm

23 pts, 11 rebs for Al. I think it is safe to say he has redeemed himself after a terrible game 1.

I think with Josh being out, everyone knew they had to step their game up. And they did.

Terrible foul by Zaza

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:16 pm

Teague still needs to be in. Drew should sub offense for defense.

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:17 pm

northcyde
November 4th, 2012
10:15 pm

@ O’Brien

Because Josh is soft, like JJ was. Neither guy wanted to mix it up on the inside. That’s why Josh is “Midrange Shawty”.

Or Wannabe Midrange Shawty.

He needs to be Cut to the Basket Shawty.

HILARIOUS

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:17 pm

Horford should’ve taken that shot.

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:17 pm

Tyger gtfo.Teague was having a great game

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:18 pm

OKC needs a PG especially now that they don’t have Harden. Harden was the primary ball-handler when he was on the court….

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:18 pm

Smart defense here. 2s are okay. No fouling jumpshooters

hi-lo

November 4th, 2012
10:18 pm

These guys look pretty good w/o smoove

Jason S

November 4th, 2012
10:18 pm

The Hawks really surprised me tonight.

Great game.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:18 pm

Hurry back Josh!!!!!!!

tyger

November 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

soullrenaissance

November 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

We win in a big upset on the road and LD is still ‘Largely Deficient’.

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

“Westbrick” is the OKC “cancer.”

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

Great win but I still hate LD’s rotations

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

OKC will never win ish with Russell Westbrook as its PG

DUDE YOU ARE NUMBER 2

Mr.E

November 4th, 2012
10:20 pm

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:20 pm

Horford with an Al Jefferson like offensive game.

He’ll never get 19 shots ever again in a game, if Josh is healthy.

Great win by this squad. Impressive play on both ends of the floor.

tyger

November 4th, 2012
10:20 pm

LD: How u like me now!

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:20 pm

Good win by the Hawks.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:20 pm

Great win by the Hawks… Al step up his game tonight.

terrell

November 4th, 2012
10:20 pm

Just when you least expect it. lol.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
10:21 pm

Glorious VICTORY!!!

Hawks got BIGGER HEART tonight!

Najeh Davenpoop

November 4th, 2012
10:21 pm

Huge win. As much as LD deserves criticism for several things, his message about everyone fighting harder for boards clearly sunk in.

vava74

November 4th, 2012
10:21 pm

Great win.

Good to see Horford bringing his overalls instead of the accountant’s suit of the other day.

Great effort by Stephenson. A Shame that we do not have two of these (James).

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:21 pm

Do we EVER win road games like this in the past? Wow

terrell

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

Trade Josh. lol

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

This game made Josh look expendable…..

When Joe was out I never felt he was expendable…..Or Horford… IJS

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:19 pm

“Westbrick” is the OKC “cancer.

*****

Like someone said earlier in the thread

Westbrook = Josh Smith

Two very talented guys, but their Basketball IQ at critical times in a game will KILL YOU.

Ken Strickland

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

I can’t wait to here the BS all of you HORFORD HATING MORONS have to say now.

Astro Joe

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

Conspiracy Theory

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

The Hawks were holding Josh out not because of his “sprained ankle” but because they are in the final stages of finalizing a trade … Why else would Josh not even travel with the team for a minor sprain?

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:22 pm

Hey, “Mid-range Shawty,” the [Hawks] team beat the Thunder without you. Please, take note[s], sir.

O'Brien

November 4th, 2012
10:23 pm

Enter your comments here

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:23 pm

K-Mart finished with 28 points.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:24 pm

Korver is the only player on the team who didn’t show up tonight

O'Brien

November 4th, 2012
10:24 pm

Great team win. Game ball to Al and Lou.

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:24 pm

I’m happy for the win but disgusted by LD rotations. No way Teague shouldn’t have closed out this game.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:25 pm

Andre Ware just pulverized Matt Ryan!!!! OMG!!

sameba

November 4th, 2012
10:25 pm

Now one can say that Korver & Tolliver bring nothing to the table…

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:25 pm

Damn. Every single player on this team showed up besides Korver

Does Ivan look a lot bigger to anyone else? No homo

Alonzo Evening

November 4th, 2012
10:26 pm

Hawks are much better without Marvin, Joe, and Josh !!

Jae Evolution

November 4th, 2012
10:26 pm

Melvin

November 4th, 2012
10:26 pm

Higher-Sider,

Didn’t the Hawks beat the Thunder with Harden last year without Horford and Joe….

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
10:26 pm

LD still isn’t off the hook. How the heck do You start Tolliver over Ivan?

Even IF he did it to pull Ibaka away from the paint on defense…What about Ibaka snagging boards?

paian

November 4th, 2012
10:27 pm

anthony morrow should start over korver asap

DS

November 4th, 2012
10:27 pm

Great win by hawks but LD is still clueless… Good to see Big Al back!

the hawks is the word

November 4th, 2012
10:28 pm

@Grandmaster JeJe. Tolliver sure as hell didn’t either

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:29 pm

Hey Melvin somebody has Romnesia! lol….

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
10:29 pm

Jae,

greatest post of the night lol!

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:29 pm

K-Mart

28 points
0 assists
1 rebound

4 turnovers

He’s no Harden. Harden would’ve taken some of the burden off of Westbrook from a playmaking standpoint, and got 18 points and 7 assists off the bench.

18 and 7 > 28 and 0

Alonzo Evening

November 4th, 2012
10:30 pm

If Korver ain’t hittin’, Korver needs to be sittin’

Oh yeah, Falcons will lose tonight – sorry.

glw

November 4th, 2012
10:31 pm

Didnt post during the game, but had to check in to see what u guys were saying. Yeah they pulled one out without “midrange shawty”.

Al does look comfortable without Josh out there. I think maybe they get in each other way. Al was really out there directing traffic. He would never do that with Josh out there. Zaza really was a big plus, I think him being out there really allows Al to roam. I really hope to see that combination a lot more. And not having a shot blocking presence didnt seem to bother us that much, so having Josh play some 3 might not be all bad from a defensive standpoint

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:32 pm

Harris will be cut in the morning, for those of you who may have an interest in a reserve guard.

Alonzo Evening

November 4th, 2012
10:33 pm

No Joe – no Marvin – time to ship out Josh (and his broke jump shot) as well.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

Tolliver hit a few shots and got some boards. Far improved over Hou game

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

northcyde,

I hear ya [loud and clear] regarding your post @10:22pm dated 11/4/2012.

vava74

November 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

Let’s not get carried away.

Thunder made a Hawks impersonation tonight.

They underestimated us and came unprepared.

Brooks was also pretty bad on their bench.

Durant posted Stephenson once. A cool 2 points but he spent the rest if the game trying to get people off the dribble.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

Korver played hard on D though. Morrow/Korver PROVEd tonight that they can handle the SF spot!

Alonzo Evening

November 4th, 2012
10:35 pm

Ivan has always been good coming off the bench – don’t change.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:36 pm

Tolliver hit a few shots and got some boards. Far improved over Hou game.

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:37 pm

Fron what I can see on the shot chart, Al was 5 – 8 FG from the midrange. Josh needs to hand over his nickname to Al.

Alonzo Evening

November 4th, 2012
10:38 pm

Thunder were unprepared? Lame excuse – they just got beat.

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:38 pm

Big games from Teague, Al, and Lou. Great production from Ivan, Zaza. I like what I saw from Morrow in the little time he played. Ivan and Morrow need more pt. Korver cant hit a shot and Tolliver should only play spot minutes. And to think people on here were talking about how we need to trade Al and Teague. GTFO.

I like Josh but it was nice watching a game without seeing him take multiple bad shots, try to run the break. argue with the refs instead of getting back on defense, and seeing him argue with teammates.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:38 pm

Falcons seem to lose to the good teams! Thats why its show the people with Football knowledge something. They are not buying the Falcons till Ryan starts beating playoff teams…

This game has a playoff type atmosphere! Hmmm

Falcons have only put 3 on the board in almost an entire half.. Sound familiar????

Matt Ryan took one of the nastiest hits in his career from Andre Ware!! Wow!

But he got back up. Tough as nails that Ryan dude!

High-sider

November 4th, 2012
10:39 pm

@Melvin

Melvin
November 4th, 2012
10:26 pm

Higher-Sider,

Didn’t the Hawks beat the Thunder with Harden last year without Horford and Joe…
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You’re right but this [win] is/was a road victory.

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:40 pm

Get out of here with the Thunder were not prepared B.S. They got beat fair and simple smh

vava74

November 4th, 2012
10:40 pm

Thunder thought that the game was in the bag, just like most of us.

That was pretty clear.

tank

November 4th, 2012
10:41 pm

yeah until we beat a good team or win in playoffs, we are toast

waltbellamy

November 4th, 2012
10:41 pm

That was entertaining. I resolve to enjoy games like this, try not to stress too much about the other 65%, and look forward to the remade roster next season. I did enough complaining about LD on Friday to last a month. I am going to try not to let what is hopefully a short term problem drive me crazy.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:41 pm

Durant spent much of the night watching Westbrook try take over, just like the Finals

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:41 pm

It’s just one game. Hold your load…..

northcyde

November 4th, 2012
10:44 pm

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:38 pm

I like Josh but it was nice watching a game without seeing him take multiple bad shots, try to run the break. argue with the refs instead of getting back on defense, and seeing him argue with teammates.

*****

All people want, is for Josh to play to his strengths. What you saw tonight, is every player on the team playing to their strengths. If Josh did that every night, very few people would have a problem with him.

But he doesn’t play to his strengths most of the time. And that’s the problem.

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
10:45 pm

All this means is that Tolliver stays in front of Ivan on the depth chart.

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:45 pm

When they lose some of you bitch and complain all day now that they win they cant get credit. Cant win for losing with some of you

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:48 pm

The problem northcyde is that he wont. People keep holding out this hope that Josh will finally get it. Dude has been in the league damn near 10 years. If he hasn’t gotten it by now then he wont. I cant think of many players that finally got it after this many years in the league. It might be a few but I’m sure it aint many

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
10:48 pm

Larry Drew is the problem..He does not demand the respect he should have from Josh..

Woody benched his azz when he got out of control didn’t he?

Al just taught us something tonight. He must stop deferring and demand the ball! Play like a battle tested vet that he is. Man up to Josh!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:49 pm

Smoove cannot play the 3. Keep him in the damn post, especially when Al is out

cp

November 4th, 2012
10:50 pm

All that is true slim but I still dont think Josh will turn out to be the player many of his fans want him to be.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:55 pm

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Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
10:56 pm

tank

November 4th, 2012
10:57 pm

Josh is what 27? This is who Josh is, either we accept him or move on

Astro Joe

November 4th, 2012
11:07 pm

One of the many things learned tonight is that the Hawks can run their offense trhough Al and Lou to finish out a tight game against a very good defensive team. Add in a one of the several guys who can make a wide open 3 and LD now knows how to close out games. That, IMO, is a significant thing to learn early in the season.

20 & 10 against Perkins and Ibaka. LOVE IT!

BoonDox

November 4th, 2012
11:08 pm

josh wants to be the man but doesnt deserve a max contract ,does he make players better is he a go to guy in clutch situations? no i love josh and want him to stay in atlanta but if we get an offer of better talant we would be foolish not to look at possible deal

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
11:17 pm

So Teague starts and Lou finishes? It worked to perfection tonight..

Kudo’s to Al. He played like an AllStar tonight!!!!!!! [23 and 11]

Putting up Kevin Garnett/LaMarcus Aldridge type production against the Western Conference Champs! Very Impressive indeed!

Alonzo Evening

November 4th, 2012
11:18 pm

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MsDee

November 4th, 2012
11:22 pm

Looks like the Lakers will FINALLY get a win!! Mike Brown keeps his job for now

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
11:22 pm

Great game. Never see us win these big road games. Go Falcons.

sameba

November 4th, 2012
11:22 pm

Al was fighting hard, like everyone else today. This was a team win.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

November 4th, 2012
11:24 pm

So proud of this team

We may have a lot of 1 yr vet minimum scrubs, but these guys are vets

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
11:24 pm

Falcons kicker choking bigtime tonight!
Missed two chip shots..