Atlanta Hawks game thread: Tolliver will start for Smith vs. OKC

Vivlamore reporting from Oklahoma City following the Hawks’ shoot-around prior to tonight’s game against the Thunder.

* As we reported yesterday, Josh Smith is not on the trip with a sprained right ankle. Coach Larry Drew said he noticed Smith limping during Friday’s season-opener against the Rockets. The forward did play all 12 minutes of the fourth quarter.

“It was a little sore (Saturday),” Drew said. “I know he got it treated. We made the decision to leave him back and get it treated. Our focus was to get him ready for Wednesday’s game.”

Drew said he is “hoping” Smith will be ready for the game against the Pacers but his status will depend on how he feels and the doctor’s report.

* Anthony Tolliver will start in Smith’s place. The rest of the starting lineup will be Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeShawn Stevenson and Al Horford. Stevenson will draw the early assignment of Thunder star Kevin Durant, although Tolliver will match up against him as well.

“Like we’ve always done when we played him, we’ll give him different looks,” Drew said of the matchup against Durant. “We don’t just lock into him with one guy. Chances are we’ll give him some different looks. Tolliver can be matched on him some. DeShawn (Stevenson) can be matched on him some. Kyle (Korver) can be matched on him some. We’ll just have to see what is working good for us but we have to give him some different looks.”

* Tolliver said he is up for the challenge, a position he will find himself in from time to time with his ability to play both forward positions.

Tolliver said the Hawks learned a valuable lesson following their season-opening loss to the Rockets, a game in which they were outrebounded 58-36.

“I think we proved to ourselves that when we really focus in we can be really good. And when we don’t focus in we can be really bad. As much bad went down in that game, we still were right there and had chances to win. Take away a few of the bonehead plays and we have a chance to win that game if not win it.”

* Al Horford said the Hawks watched a lot of film from the loss to the Rockets.

“Being the first game, and a new team, we really weren’t on the same page,” Horford said. “It’s going to take us a few games to get going but I hope today we do a much better job of that.”

As the 0-3 Lakers can attest, it can take time for teams to gel after an offseason of multiple moves. Horford said the difference will come on the defensive end.

* After doing film work of Friday’s loss, Drew said the rebounding issue was not a scheme issue.

“It was just not a good job of rebounding,” Drew said. “That shot went up and we did not seek bodies to box out. The perimeters did not do a good job of chasing down the long rebounds. We went through that whole thing to see where the rebounds were coming from. It had nothing to do with rotations. It had nothing to do with our defensive schemes. We did not do a good job of boxing out and pursuing the ball.”

* Anthony Morrow and Ivan Johnson, along with rookies John Jenkins and Mike Scott, did not play in the season opener. Drew said it was due to a combination of matchups and rotation.

“First of all we can’t play everybody,” Drew said. “That particular game, being the first game, I wanted to look at some specific matchups. We’ll see how it goes. I can’t play 11 or 12 guys. I just can’t do it. I’ve got to really look and play the guys who are going to be in the rotation. The other guys, as I’ve told them, are going to have to stay ready.”

- Chris Vivlamore

529 comments Add your comment

DS

November 4th, 2012
2:05 pm

Now I’m completely convinced that LD is still here because Ferry wants to tank the season. There’s absolutely no other reason for that idiot to be the HC to any bb team let alone an NBA team. I wish Ivan would punch him on his face.. How the f@#! is Tolliver starting ahead of Ivan!!

Just Joe

November 4th, 2012
2:05 pm

LD has to be the only guy on the planet that would have Tolliver in front of Ivan on the depth chart. LD just thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.

DS

November 4th, 2012
2:07 pm

And of course LD blames the poor rebounding on the players, he didn’t have anything to do with that…

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
2:09 pm

If LD thinks rebounding was the only issue vs Houston, he is in for a rude awakening. Our perimeter defense was the worst I’ve ever seen

keith

November 4th, 2012
2:18 pm

“Anthony Tolliver ought to be sellin’ insurance”

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:28 pm

Wowwww we should as fans have some say so where LD is concerned FIRE THE DUDE N HIRE ANYBODYYY ELSE PLEASEEEEEEE GEESHHHHH WTF NO MORROW NO MIKE SCOTT WHIM BTW MATCHES UP VERY WELL WITH KEVIN DURANT AND SO DOES IVAN JOHNSON WTF IS THIS GUY LARRY DREW ON DUDE IT AINT NO KNOWN LOCAL StrEET stuff smgdh

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:30 pm

We shall see in 5.5 hours whats really up and I gotta strong feelin I will be watchin our 7+0 falCANS WHO HAS A REAL HEAD COACH LD IS JUST A HEAD CASE LOL

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:34 pm

I hope the pr guy undeestands that when fans get what they want that $ comes to the building and WE WANT IVAN WE WANT IVAN #!#!#!#!

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:35 pm

We should attend the next homegame and boo larry drew and picket for hus immediate release fire him NOW

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
2:36 pm

FIRE LD
FIRE SUND
FIRE WOODY
FIRE WEISS
FIRE STOTTS

paian

November 4th, 2012
2:37 pm

this sht is just sad i dont think im gonna be able to watch this game lol

keith

November 4th, 2012
2:41 pm

Maybe Larry Drew is under orders to start the worst line-up possible without making it so obvious? hmmmmmm? food for thought? he can not be as clueless as he seems or can he?

keith

November 4th, 2012
2:43 pm

The Houston game revealed that Zsa zsa should be starting every night. Dude should play about 30-38 minutes per night.

NORRIS CHUCK

November 4th, 2012
2:44 pm

“We’ll see how it goes. I can’t play 11 or 12 guys. I just can’t do it. I’ve got to really look and play the guys who are going to be in the rotation. The other guys, as I’ve told them, are going to have to stay ready.”

So LD is trying to sell that Tolliver is a better player right now than Ivan????

NORRIS CHUCK

November 4th, 2012
2:46 pm

Why not go with:

Teague
Harris
Stevenson
Ivan
Horford

Lou
Morrow
Korver
Tolliver
ZaZa

How hard is it to put the best combinations on the court? LD is a complete bust as an NBA head coach!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
2:46 pm

Tolliver is his guy! Told ya in the preivous blog.. He is, our new Collins! Oh Boy!

Do not be surprised if he becomes a Captain! Hmmmmmmm

Oh the Humanity!

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:48 pm

Ld is LOST OVERTHINKING AND CLUELESS

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:49 pm

I KNEW NOT TO BUT SEASON TIX BUTTT AHHHH THE HUMANITY LOL AS YOY GUYS SAY LOL

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
2:50 pm

Tolliver will get manhandled by kd35

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
2:54 pm

Now if Al can get his new [Finesse] game down pat, we may have a fighting chance?

Do we lose by 10,20 or 30?

Westbrook is looking at tonight’s game and probably saying hey Harden dropped 45 on these chumps, I may go for 50! Sheesh!

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
2:55 pm

I’m convinced Tolliver is LD’s nephew somewhere down the line.

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
2:57 pm

THIS morning, does any one wish the Hawks would’ve pushed for a Horford & Teague for Harden trade a few weeks ago?

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
2:57 pm

Woody>Woody Lite

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:02 pm

Ramon, lets push for Harden for AllStar AL and No jumpshot Teague today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1GRRRRRRRRGH!!!!

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:05 pm

Shoot the step-back or Serge Ibaka will send it back to Atlanta asap…

prison mike

November 4th, 2012
3:06 pm

Little Al will start to complain about Perkins physical play by halftime…

This might be a lotto year for us. We are due one, hopefully it’s in the top 7 range to get some good odds.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:06 pm

Did he just BENCH Devin Harris and Start ANTHONY TOLLIVER!!!!???? ANTHONY TOLLIVER!!???

I’m so shocked I need someone to shake me until I wake up!!!!

Somebody needs to shake LD!!!

Fundamentals

November 4th, 2012
3:07 pm

Hopefully Ivan will get a chance to remind LD of what toughness, edge & heart is tonight.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:09 pm

Ken Strickland

November 4th, 2012
3:10 pm

As we all see, Drew’s starting lineup reveals his continued love affair with jumpshooters and OFF over DEF. As badly as we got outrebounded against the Rockets, and with our leading rebounder out, Drew continues to sacrifice rebounding and DEF in favor of jumpshooters and OFF. I’m getting the same type of frustrating feeling I got when Woodson was the HC.

I’m looking for Ferry to fire LD by the trade deadline. And if Josh doesn’t get it through his hard, thick head that he needs to change his OFF approach and stop taking so many doggone jumpshots, he’s going to find himself traded by the trade deadline. There has been some criticism of Teague lately, but I don’t think it’s warranted.

He’s not a scoring PG, which means it’s his responsibility to get everyone involved in the OFF early. But when things are working out, it’s also his responsibility to take charge and become a scoring option, which he did at one point in his last gm. Personally, I think he’s done quite well considering he’s had 2 different HCs in the last 3yrs, with neither giving him an ounce of support nor wanting him on the floor.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:11 pm

Lester Conner for Head Coach!!

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:15 pm

Why is Stevenson starting? Sefelosha doesn’t get buckets!!!! I think Perkins may be out with a sprained ankle though….

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
3:15 pm

LD said we won’t have trouble scoring, but that remains to be seen

I line how Ferry challenged him before the season. He also said LD was young

Viv, what exactly does Sund do these days? It’s not like he did anything as GM

hawksordie

November 4th, 2012
3:17 pm

Lestwr comnor lol

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
3:18 pm

I hope LD doesn’t make it past the first 2 weeks of the season. He clearly either plays favorites with the players or doesn’t value players who are defensive and rebounding studs but limited offensively.

There’s NO WAY that Tolliver should be over Ivan except LD doesn’t truly like Ivan’s attitude. In my estimate, Tolliver shouldn’t even be on the roster before James OR Benson.

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:19 pm

Lineup for tonight should be:

Teague—————–>Lou
Harris——————->Jenkins
Korver —————–>Morrow
Ivan———————>Scott
Horford—————–>Zaza

tbhawksfan

November 4th, 2012
3:20 pm

Tolliver sucks worse than Ivan

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
3:20 pm

I’m really starting to think that Fratello may end up being the next head coach of the Hawks for at least 2 seasons.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:21 pm

Hey Larry, NEWS FLASH, the other team will not have trouble scoring either Sir..

Ra'mon

November 4th, 2012
3:22 pm

Guys, think about something though. We say Woody is bad. However, Mike Brown couldn’t win with LEBRON, and he CAN’T win with KOBE, D12, AND NASH. Wow! I look for him to be employed by ESPN very soon, lol.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:23 pm

Tolliver will be a captain soon. Did you see his highlights on YouTube?

Grandmaster JeJe

November 4th, 2012
3:25 pm

I’d love to get Fratello back here

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:25 pm

With Smoove out we don’t have anyone long enough to bother KD unless you wanna put Ivan on him and start mike scott at PF….which is cool but scott will probably get abused by Ibaka.

This season has to be more about us than our opponet. We’re going to have to outrun and outGun most teams while playing solid positional defense.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:28 pm

Perkins [270lbs] out weighs Al [255lbs] by 15lbs! He’s too big..

Larry will you please get the man some help???????

sameba

November 4th, 2012
3:43 pm

When Tolliver was invited to the training camp this year, I remember he said he was very excited. He also mentioned he had good connections with some Hawks’ assistant coach and that those connections originate when he was in Cleveland. Can someone confirm this?

If so, that could explain much…

Stop Ignoring Reality

November 4th, 2012
3:48 pm

Honestly, If we had just traded Marvin for Devin and left it at that, that would probably have put us over the top.

Starters:

Teague
Devin
Joe
Josh
Horford

You can still sign Lou to the MLE and Swap Korver for the 2nd round pick (Maybe). You can Still trade Willie Green to the Clippers, and you still draft Jenkins and Scott. then you keep Benson and Jason Collins (so Big Al Doesn’t throw a hissy fit)

Bench:

Lou
Jenkins
Korver
Ivan
Zaza

Spot Duty:

Mike Scott
Keith Benson
Damion James
Jason collins

Rusty

November 4th, 2012
3:49 pm

I don’t understand all the complaints against al & Jeff,makes no sense. The problem is our stupid coach who is not qualified to be a nba coach.

SuckerFree

November 4th, 2012
3:49 pm

Larry Drew’s gotta go.

That’s the bottom line.

You have some bonafide bangers that’s been here through the thick and thin and he decides to start that clown over Zaza or Ivan Johnson.

What an idiot. Tolliver is a scrub that barely made the team.

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:51 pm

If Al puts up 20 and 17 there will be accolades

If Teague drops 15 an 9 there will be accolades

Slimjr

November 4th, 2012
3:54 pm

If you cant out muscle your opponent, then you must employ finesse weaponry…..