Atlanta Hawks: Anderson, James waived (updated)
Vivlamore reporting.
The Hawks waived guard James Anderson and forward Damion James Saturday, the final roster cuts of the preseason, to reduce to 14 players ahead of next week’s regular-season opener.
Forward Anthony Tolliver made the roster as the only non-guaranteed contract. His contract would become guaranteed if he remains on the roster on Jan. 10.
The Hawks go into the season with one less player than the maximum of 15 allowed by the NBA. By keeping one roster spot open, the Hawks have the flexibility to add another player via trade or signing. Also, keeping Tolliver adds veteran depth to the bench with guard Jeff Teague and center Zaza Pachulia both nursing sprained ankles. The Hawks had until 5 p.m. Monday to make their final cuts.
Tolliver had the best preseason numbers of the final three vying for a roster spot. He appeared in all seven games, with two starts, and averaged 8.1 points and 3.4 rebounds in 18.7 minutes. His size, at 6-foot-8, gives the Hawks options at both the small and power forward positions.
James, a former Hawks draft pick, appeared in six exhibition games, with two starts, and averaged 6.5 points and 6.8 rebounds in 19.2 minutes. He played 21 minutes, with two points, in the Hawks’ exhibition finale against the Pistons Friday night.
Anderson appeared in six exhibition games, with two starts, and averaged 2.o points and 0.7 rebounds in 10.7 minutes. He played eight minutes, with three points, against the Pistons.
The Hawks, off Saturday after last night’s 104-88 loss to the Pistons, open the season on Friday at home against the Rockets. The Hawks ended the exhibition season at 3-4, with all wins at home and all losses on the road.
- Chris Vivlamore
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Rusty
October 27th, 2012
3:21 pm
I guess that’s about what stupid Larry Drew would do cut James a stupid horses butt.
Sautee
October 27th, 2012
3:21 pm
Sorry that James didn’t make the team, but this year is about evaluation anyway. It’ll be fascinating to see Ferry put his plan into place.
Just Joe
October 27th, 2012
3:25 pm
First wrong move by Ferry. James could have helped this team off the bench.
paian
October 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
how is this the wrong move by ferry? dont u mean larry
Just Joe
October 27th, 2012
3:34 pm
LD doesnt set the roster. He can’t cut a guy. He can’t sign a guy. Ferry has the ultimate say-so on how this roster looks.
lewis
October 27th, 2012
3:39 pm
I don’t even care that much about James being cut, but I really don’t think Tolliver can contribute much.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2012
4:01 pm
There’s absolutely nothing about DStevenson that would make anyone choose him over DJames after an assessment of their in camp and exhibition production. James showed himself to be a far superior rebounder and passer, as well as a bigger and better defender and more consistent scorer.
I don’t know how much of this BS is due to LDrew’s preference for vets, contracts issues, or both.
With the decision to cut down to 14 players, there has to be an intent to sign someone else soon. Regardless of whether that is the intent, we’re down to Korver, Stevenson, Tolliver or Josh at SF. It’s pretty obvious that Drew chose OFF over DEF and rebounding if he chose Tolliver over James.
During training camp and preseason Tolliver’s extra inch in height certainly didn’t help him become a better rebounder, defender, hustler, or passer than James. But, what’s done is done, so we have to move on.
hawksordie
October 27th, 2012
4:08 pm
Ughhghg !!!!.i was 38 hot when we draft him n trade him then we got him this offseason I was happy n confident that he is a major contributor to off rebounding def play aggressive rim attacking etc. noww im highly doubtful unlesss unless ferry has his eye on a sweet fa pickup but for the $$ damion james woulda required along with his skill.set I doubt very seriously we get a better player pound for pound dollar for dollar I mean dj (damion james) is better than most the fanbase is aware of …smh we shall see what happens……
HueyFreeman
October 27th, 2012
4:09 pm
Great…another limp body to ride the bench and perform poorly when needed while we cut potential talent and contributors (James, Benson). How many 6′8-6′9 forwards in love with shooting jumpshots do we need??
Fire LD, get a better coach, trade Morrow or Korver along with Petro and Tolliver, get some true bigs in here with a solid SF. I can deal with an undersized backcourt, but a jumpshooting, fastbreaking, so-so defensive team can only do so much. Maybe Ferry has his eyes on us bottoming out and drafting talent…
hawksordie
October 27th, 2012
4:10 pm
Go hawks either way but we NEED.A GOOD SOLID HIGH I.Q. BALL PLAYER AT THE THREE ON OUR BENCH …FROM FREE AGENCY TRADE ETC. LETS GO HAWKS …WE GOING TO REGRET LETTIN DAMION JAMES GO WATCH !
Slim
October 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
Should’ve kept Damien James.
Roy Kittles
October 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
I can’t believe Toliiver over James. But then again this is the hawks we are talking about
Slim
October 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
At the same time letting Damien James allows a little more flexibility.
northcyde
October 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
So the guy that LED us in rebounding in the preseason from the SF spot gets cut?
smh
hawksordie
October 27th, 2012
4:15 pm
And keith benson dont get me started he has BOSS TALENT DEFENSIVE N POST UP GREATNESS UNDISCoVERED
hawksordie
October 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
This blows .. Buttt wats new here home in atlanta go hawks …in my whisper as hope fades lol
brigadierjerry
October 27th, 2012
4:25 pm
not surprised in the least i called this a few days ago in previous blogs stating drew likes offense over defense. right now 2 zero sum players on team tolliver and petro
bubacar aw
October 27th, 2012
4:31 pm
As good as James was in preseason and as good of a defensive player James is, the bottom line is that he would not have received PT this season for the Hawks….In essence, this was a smart ” financial” move by Ferry and the Hawks staff……Anderson, on the other hand, never had a chance end of discussion there……I think PETRO should be limited to STREET CLOTHES for the whole season…..The Hawks will regret the JAMES DECISION one day,,,but not for this season !
bubacar aw
October 27th, 2012
4:38 pm
HOPEFULLY, this move doesn’t BLOW TURDS like it appears to blow..
keith
October 27th, 2012
4:40 pm
Hard to believe we keep Tolliver. I do not understand that move at all. Someting better must be coming up going forward.
brigadierjerry
October 27th, 2012
4:41 pm
msdee, grandad, vava, big ray, section 303, thoughts?
i have stated how i felt about drew. i belive coaches especially players who played in the nba like their team to be a reflectionof them them and drew is doing that prefrring offense over defense
northcyde
October 27th, 2012
4:44 pm
Once again, the Hawks use the “financial excuse” to not assemble the best team possible. Until they get out of that mindset, and find ways to either make more money at the box office, or simply start making moves that are in the best interest of the team on the FLOOR, we’ll never advance any further than where we are now.
cp
October 27th, 2012
4:55 pm
So we got rid of our best rebounding and defensive sf? I’m not saying James was a star but I don’t see how a team that desperately needs rebounding gets rid of a guy who rebounds as well as he does. The move only makes sense if the Hawks make a move to upgrade the sf position. If nobody is brought in then this moves makes absolutely no sense. LD choosing offense over defense once again. Korver is a terrible defender, Morrow isn’t a good defender, and Stevenson is washed up. Tolliver looks more pf than sf to me. Considering this is the Hawks cant say im shocked. A few guys on here called it days ago that James wouldn’t make the team.
moboman
October 27th, 2012
5:12 pm
Predicting a waiver pickup this week.
Najeh Davenpoop
October 27th, 2012
5:14 pm
A damn shame that Petro still has a roster spot and James doesn’t.
Slimjr
October 27th, 2012
5:14 pm
FTPB
“I see folks are trying to talk sense to the self-acclaimed global degenerate.” -BigRay-
Whats so sad BRray this man is in his mid to late 70’s? How tragic!!!!!!!!!!!! Just sad!! Truly sad..
There’s nothing sadder than an [Old Fool].
Note: Sautee, you are the MAN!! Right hand salute!!!
cp
October 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
Al and Josh are going to have to average double digit rebounds a night
cp
October 27th, 2012
5:16 pm
The guards are going to have to help on the glass a lot more than previous seasons too.
Slimjr
October 27th, 2012
5:18 pm
He did what? Cut Damion James? That may comeback to haunt these Hawks…
Let’s hope Danny Ferry has something up his sleeves?
Was that Detroit beat down just a fluke? They seem to own Larry…
Slimjr
October 27th, 2012
5:22 pm
Hang in there northcyde, the Hawks will be okay.. We cant expect a Championship run just yet..
Danny will need more time..Your looking at 4-6 years and this Franchise will be an Elite…
UGA
October 27th, 2012
5:32 pm
The curse of the Hawks hit Ferry finally! Should have kept James, no doubt.
Slimjr
October 27th, 2012
5:33 pm
“The Hawks, off Saturday after last night’s 104-88 loss to the Pistons, open the season on Friday at home against the Rockets. The Hawks ended the exhibition season at 3-4, with all wins at home and all losses on the road.” -C-Viv-
I know its just preseason ball, but do you realize the Hawks play 5 road games in their first 8 regular season games? Oh boy.
Hey doc,
huge game tomorrow @ 1pm up in Philly? Huh? The Falcons are playing their 4th 8-8 opponent in their 1st 8 games.. hmmmmm, Must of cost Mr. Blank a fortune… heh heh heh heh
keith
October 27th, 2012
5:33 pm
Maybe Mickael Petrus is planning on taking that final spot on a 2 year deal. Petrus would be the perfect fit, balanced offensively and defensively.
Slimjr
October 27th, 2012
5:38 pm
The Falcons 1st 7 opponents this season have a whopping combined record last season of 55 and 73..Whew.. World beaters…… hahaha
Slimjr
October 27th, 2012
5:43 pm
Question: Why has Peitrus not been picked up as of yet? Can he not defend like he did two-three years ago?
In UGA news: Andy Murry is playing like Tony Romo, 3 picks in the first half. Don’t be shocked if Florida blows it wide open in the 2nd half…
AtlsMrwonderful
October 27th, 2012
5:44 pm
I liked James too but I don’t see him getting any pt at all on this team. What’s the point of stashing him on the bench in a year that we are basically just evaluating what we have so I completely agree with Sautee above. Plus I see Ferry making moves down the road. If we are not where we need to be later on I see Petro’s contract as being trae bait since its about to come off the books so If another team tries a salary dump before the deadling we could easily get a good upgrade for the 3.5M we owe him plus a couple other guys on the bench. I have faith in Danny Ferry and i’m not gonna start bad mouthing his decisions just yet. #GoHAWKS
UGA
October 27th, 2012
5:44 pm
It would be ideal to sign Pietrus……….then this move makes sense.
cp
October 27th, 2012
5:49 pm
Pietrus wanted more than the vet min that’s why he hasn’t signed. Boston wanted him back but he wanted more money. Still a solid player but I don’t think he is as good as he was a few years ago.
MattP
October 27th, 2012
6:40 pm
Ferry might be planning on making a trade early on in the season. He has very few big guys and he left on roster spot open.
Ghost Of Woody
October 27th, 2012
7:01 pm
Stevenson is not washed up. He shot 38% from 3 in the preseason. He is a much better passer and ballhandler than you all give him credit for. And he is a better defender than James. James has no offense and can’t shoot the 3. With a Teague-Harris backcourt you need that. If you need rebounding that bad, sign James Singleton.
i_am_soulstar
October 27th, 2012
7:23 pm
LD likes guys that can score, hence the Tolliver over James pick. Devin, Jeff, and Lou are very good at scoring, but none of these guys get boards. We are gonna be a TURRIBLE rebounding team this year, which is why everyone was campaigning for a rebounding specialist like James. Oh well.
i_am_soulstar
October 27th, 2012
7:27 pm
But I understand the James cut, because the guy doesn’t really do anything else well.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2012
7:59 pm
It won’t matter who we pickup to fill out the roster or fill the SF position, he won’t be able to start or even contribute until he learns the OFF/DEF schemes, plays, and players. The only way to logically justify cutting James is to start Josh and use the 15th roster spot to sign or trade for another backup center.
Ghost Of Woody
October 27th, 2012
8:03 pm
Ken Strickland,
You act as if Damion James was gonna start for us opening day. He was behind Korver, Stevenson, and even Tolliver for minutes at the SF. Drew wasn’t planning on playing him much.
Astro Joe
October 27th, 2012
8:14 pm
Speculation is that OKC will trade Harden if they can’t get him to accept an extension in the next few days. I’m sure that they will likely try and move Perkins’ contract (3 more years) as part of any trade. So…
Harden+Perkins+Maynor for Devin+Morrow+Petro.
A deal like that eliminates cap space for a maxed-out free agent from another team next summer.
I wouldn’t make that deal but I know some of you all have talked about Harden being some great player (I think he is a guy who benefits greatly from playing next to Durant & Westbrook).
Man
October 27th, 2012
8:20 pm
How did this team miss out on ryan hollins and Michael Beasley?I just dnt understand it?they coulda contributed to this team well.Beasley our starting 3 and hollins a backup center…..athletic and defensive force plus he’s 7 foot….I dnt understand
WHEN ARE THEY MOVING ?????
October 27th, 2012
8:38 pm
WHY IS THE WHOLE FRANCHISE NOT WAIVED OUT OF TOWN TO SEATTLE ????
THIS TEAM IS CRAP, OWNERS LIARS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH !
WHY ANYBODY CARES ABOUT THIS CRAP TEAM IS A WONDER, MOVING IS THE ONLY ANSWER, ATLANTA DOES NOT NEED nba BASKETBALL, FOR SURE !!!
GO AWAY hawks FOREVER PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AnotherGM
October 27th, 2012
8:50 pm
Letting Benson and James go us a mistake.
Ken Strickland
October 27th, 2012
9:08 pm
GHOST-It’s obvious at this point that James wasn’t going to start since he couldn’t make the cut. But Josh is the only player that has the demonstrated ability to do a better job as a starting SF than James, based on what we need most, which is rebounding and DEF. Stevenson started 30gms at SF last yr and shot FG%28, 3pt%28.3, FT%60.0, and averaged 2.9PPG % 2RPG in over 19MPG.
Oh, and just because he shot a 3pt FG% of 37.5% in preseason doesn’t erase last yrs awful season or the fact that he did very little else in preseason.
swatguy
October 27th, 2012
9:11 pm
I think you guys are overreacting.
!) The team is not gonna be pinched with 15 players to start the season.
2) Damon is worthy of consideration and probably told to not go far (take 40K and chill for a month).
3) Someone will be moved in the first 45 days.
4) Toliver will surprise many.
Hawks Up
October 27th, 2012
9:24 pm
The Hawks should make a trade for Corey Brewer always been a great defender and lead the Nuggets in scoring this preseason at 17 points a game even with there regular rotation playing every game and he is 6′9 so he would be a huge up grade also shot 50% from the 3 point line which had been his biggest weakness
O'Brien
October 27th, 2012
9:30 pm
I am ok with keeping Tolliver, but I dont think James should have been cut. Couldnt they have kept James and Tolliver for a few months and deciding who to keep before their contract becomes guaranteed?
No wonder LD never mentioned James when he talked about SF by committee, and who he liked at SF…SMH.
grimey
October 27th, 2012
9:39 pm
I vote to sign Terrence Williams
O'Brien
October 27th, 2012
9:46 pm
AJ,
I like Harden, but I would not trade for him. I will take my chances and wait until the offseason and hope he is available. I think Harden is the best FA SG available next offseason. And if the Hawks miss out on Dwight, Bynum, and CP3, I would settle for him, plus his contract would only be for 4 years.
I think Harden benefits from playing with Durant and Westbrook, but I also think JJ benefited early on from playing in D’Antoni’s system, and playing with Nash, Stoudemire and Marion. But he was still solid for us. Harden would be too (imo).
Super Jim
October 27th, 2012
10:05 pm
Some crazy comments here. No chance James or Anderson would ever have left the bench or contributed. Tolliver has been a 20 min per night rotation player for 3 years running. And even he will get very little run. The 14th man is the least of our concerns.
Ghost Of Woody
October 27th, 2012
10:07 pm
Ken Strickland,
While DeShawn’s pre-season doesn’t negate his porous performance with the horrible Nets, it does however match with what he has done in this league. He shot well in Washington and Dallas (ask LeBron), and is shooting well now. Damion James can’t shoot. He hustles, but so does DeShawn and Tolliver and they can shoot too. Larry Drew could only keep one PF/SF tweener, and he decided to keep the one who could shoot (Tolliver). I am not mad at Drew for making this decision. Drew’s fast paced offense needs a shooter (Korver, Stevenson, Tolliver, heck even Morrow) at SF.
i_am_soulstar
October 27th, 2012
10:08 pm
If Harden wants a max contract, I don’t think he’ll be coming to the Hawks. Danny Ferry’s not trying to hear max contract talk unless it’s for a bona fide superstar. Much love for Joe and all he did, but let’s not repeat history.
tjhook
October 27th, 2012
10:14 pm
Tolliver is a one-trick pony (shooter) and not great at that (1-10 vs Detroit). James is supposed to be an example of the team realigning itself. Good prospect like Scott and Jenkins, but with a couple of flaws. Worth the roster spot. Rollover will not rebound or play great D so there is no upgrade only some lame experiment by LD.
tjhook
October 27th, 2012
10:16 pm
Tolliver*
heartofdarkness
October 27th, 2012
10:18 pm
This team feels like Queens Park Rangers or Wigan Athletic in the EPL. Occasionally, you will get a lightning strike and a win over a top eight team, but mostly the Hawks will be behind the ball, hoping to catch a bolt in a jar with a long shot counterattack. It’s too bad the NBA doesn’t have a relegation protocol.
NORRIS CHUCK
October 27th, 2012
10:28 pm
:18 PM ET
The Orlando Magic have waived wing Quentin Richardson, combo forward Justin Harper and wing Chris Johnson, team officials said. The moves bring the team’s roster down to 15 players, ahead of the NBA-mandated 5 p.m. Monday deadline. It also means that wing DeQuan Jones, an undrafted rookie and former Miami Hurricanes player, made the regular-season roster. Richardson, 32, didn’t fit into the Magic’s long-term plans, and he didn’t play in Orlando’s final four preseason games. Orlando Sentinel
keith
October 27th, 2012
10:41 pm
I hope the Detroit game is not indicative of how we will play this season. If so, we obviously need a better defensive scheme and more offense. They may need to start Lou Williams now just to stay in games.
PG-D. Harris
SG-L. Williams
SF-Kyle Korver
PF-Josh Smith
C-AL Horford
Big Ray
October 27th, 2012
10:50 pm
Slimjr ,
I didn’t like the cut of Damion James, either.
But who is doing the roster cuts? All I know is Larry Drew does all the talking about it, so maybe you can blame him for this one.
Petro….it has to be about the money, is all I can think.
And you’re right….Danny Ferry isn’t trying to make this team into a championship contender over night. He will need some time. But it all begins next summer…when we have the monstrous cap space.
Until then, let’s see how these guys fly with what they have.
Hope Tolliver doesn’t turn out to be another deadbeat…oops, I might be too late.
Ra'mon
October 27th, 2012
10:52 pm
James Harden traded to Houston!!
Rusty
October 27th, 2012
10:53 pm
Is JT still hurt or is he in LD’s doghouse as usual.
Ra'mon
October 27th, 2012
10:55 pm
This is GREAT NEWS for the Hawks because the Rockets should be assured of a playoff spot now and their pick goes to Atlanta.
Grandad
October 27th, 2012
10:56 pm
Ra`mon
Has the deal been finalized yet ?
Ra'mon
October 27th, 2012
10:58 pm
Yes!
@Chris_Broussard: Source confirms @WojYahooNBA that Hou & OKC agree to Harden trade: JH, Cole Aldridge, Daquan Cook, Lazr Hayward 4 KMartin, JLamb, picks
Ra'mon
October 27th, 2012
10:59 pm
This all but assures a Lakers Vs. Heat Finals. Lol
Grandad
October 27th, 2012
11:01 pm
On Damion James;
I have not watched him play;
and have only evaluated his stats.
I was impressed with his Rebounding above all else.
Having said;
I will reserve judgement.
I`m having mixed feelings about the motivation of his release.
keith
October 27th, 2012
11:04 pm
Breaking News: Thunder in Advance talks in a trade of James Hardin to Houston.
Buddy Grizzard
October 27th, 2012
11:04 pm
Reaction:
http://repatl.blogspot.com/2012/10/hawks-cut-only-small-forward-on-pre.html
J.J.M.
October 27th, 2012
11:04 pm
Harden rejected 4 years 52 million and the thunder said forget it lol
Ra'mon
October 27th, 2012
11:04 pm
Will James be signed next week to a TEN day contract?
Grandad
October 27th, 2012
11:18 pm
Ra’mon
I suspect you are correct; DJames will sign a 10 day.
Buddy Grizzard
October 27th, 2012
11:19 pm
Wow on that Harden trade. I honestly don’t think that makes Houston a playoff team but it takes a lot of pressure off Jeremy Lin. Harden can be a ball handler and distributor and Lin can focus on attacking the basket. If Houston misses the playoffs and OKC loses in the playoffs to the Lakers, there will be a lot of what-if questions, as with the Perkins trade. I’m pulling for the Rockets all year though. I’m a Lin fan and I want the first round pick.
Grandad
October 27th, 2012
11:21 pm
Oh, by the way:
GoDawgs … GoDawgs … GoDawgs … GoDawgs … GoDawgs
…………………………………Sic `em !!!……………………………….
Buddy Grizzard
October 27th, 2012
11:22 pm
Holy crap, one of the first-rounders OKC receives is the pick Houston got from Toronto in the Kyle Lowery trade. This pick supposedly has protections that assure it of being a lottery pick. Never mind… great trade for OKC.
i_am_soulstar
October 27th, 2012
11:25 pm
Harden just got traded to the Rockets
Buddy Grizzard
October 27th, 2012
11:27 pm
Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen 3 minutes ago
The Dallas pick is top 20 protected. Toronto pick top three protected this yr., but moves only if Toronto in lottery for next six seasons.
So in other words, Toronto keeps the pick if it’s top 3 this year, and only conveys the pick if they miss the playoffs in the next 6 seasons. I wonder if it is top-3 protected beyond this season. Because say Toronto makes the playoffs this year or wins a top-3 pick, in which case they keep their 2013 pick. If there is no protection in 2014 and Toronto misses the playoffs, OKC could end up with Andrew Wiggins.
Buddy Grizzard
October 27th, 2012
11:35 pm
Chris Vernon @ChrisVernonShow about 8 minutes ago
rough night to be in oklahoma. hope they don’t burn buggies
Wabe
October 27th, 2012
11:40 pm
Don’t really see Harden as a max money player…
Ken Strickland
October 28th, 2012
12:07 am
GHOST-If you think a regular season FG% of 28.5%, a 3p% of 28.3%, and a FT% of 56.0% is shooting, then I have some snow in Alaska I’d love to sell you. And as far as exhibition season is concerned, shooting FR% of 41.2% definitely doesn’t classify Stevenson as anything but a below average shooter. And averaging 2.9PPG during the regular season and 5PPG during exhibition season definitely doesn’t show much for someone who’s supposed to be a good shooter.
He’s a liability as a rebounder and didn’t get to the FT line once during the entire exhibition season. I don’t give a damn how well he did when he helped Dallas defeat the Heat in the title gm. The fact is, he hasn’t done a doggone thing since.
lewis
October 28th, 2012
12:40 am
what happened to hoopinion this blog isn’t hardcore enough
Grandad
October 28th, 2012
12:40 am
Wabe
I agree; I really like Harden as a team plyr, but;
he is not a SuperDuperStar.
Not even a SuperStar.
A Star yes … [no adjective].
tjhook
October 28th, 2012
1:15 am
My new name for LD is Loser Dude. Has no idea how to assemble a unit that has a balanced attack. James would have gotten us a bunch of hustle points that would have occurred during the course of a game (transition baskets, offensive put backs). And just to keep vets like Petro and Tolliver on the roster. James was a cheap addition! Thanks for nothing Loser Dude!
brigadierjerry
October 28th, 2012
1:48 am
houston still have enough cap space after they max harden to 4 year 60 million deal to add another max. i can see the go after josh smith
EmirS.
October 28th, 2012
1:48 am
Surely you could come up with something ALOT more creative than {Loser Dude}.
hawksordie
October 28th, 2012
2:04 am
Hawks bout to get harden ..watch
hawksordie
October 28th, 2012
2:07 am
My wifes first cousin is james harden so guess my schedule changed for friday opening night I will be courtside for houston ..hawks game she love hawks now but roots for her cousin so its a lil in house rivalry #HAWKS
tjhook
October 28th, 2012
3:24 am
@emil,
Loser Dude is simple and to the point. That makes the impact even greater. Kinda like Rise Up,the falcon saying
vava74
October 28th, 2012
3:52 am
brigadier,
My reaction: nauseated but still hopeful that he will kept “close”.
However, given his terrific rebounding numbers in the pre-season, I think he will picked up quickly by someone else.
vava74
October 28th, 2012
4:47 am
On the Harden trade:
If Harden really said no to 4 years – 52 million, then the guy made a stupid move.
He is young and over those 4 years, with Durant and Westbrook (or someone else in Westbrook’s position as Durant’s sidekick) he would be competing for the NBA title every single year.
He would consolidate his name with a title (a big possibility notwithstanding the Lebron reign since I believe that the NBA will find a way to get someone to win the title here and there between what will be a series of MIA titles).
But he went away from this for 8 million more? To be #1 cog in a semi-good team?
That’s JJ all over again. Not good.
Jae Evolution
October 28th, 2012
5:43 am
No vava, Houston can offer him a 5 year deal going up to 78M so in reality it’s A LOT more money than OKC could’ve given him.
Just Joe
October 28th, 2012
6:07 am
An extension before Wednesday would have to be a 4-yr deal. A new contract in July of 2013 can be for 5. This year + 4 = 5 total. Free agent + 5 = 5 total. It’s still in Harden’s best interest (except the possibility of injury) to wait and sign next summer.
Just Joe
October 28th, 2012
6:14 am
I agree with what someone said above. The Harden move is great for the Hawks because we hold a 1st and 2nd rd pick from Houston that both carry “protection”. Lottery on the 1st. Top-40 on the 2nd.
I now expect Jeremy Lamb to become a superstar though.
Buddy Grizzard
October 28th, 2012
6:43 am
http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/10/28/thoughts-on-the-james-harden-trade/
This Harden trade is going to show just how bad the Jenkins pick was. PJ3 will be seeing a lot more minutes with Harden gone.
vava74
October 28th, 2012
6:44 am
I don’t think HOU makes the trade without a guaranteed contract from Harden.
If they did, I think they may have risked too much based solely on holding his bird rights.
Nonetheless, my reference to 4 years – 60 million is based on what Harden demanded from OKC, not what he can get from HOU.
vava74
October 28th, 2012
6:46 am
And Woj reports that OKC may have offered 54 million as a last minute thing, so we are talking about 6 million…
darrell starks
October 28th, 2012
6:55 am
Wow, Thunders just got better, Lamb will be a star in this league, he was 1 of my top sleepers in this draft also Martin and 2 first round picks.
Good trade for both team, but Thunders just made there team better also 2 future 1st round picks.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buddy Grizzard
October 28th, 2012
7:02 am
“Harden struggled in the NBA Finals, tried too hard and slowly, surely unraveled over the course of the series. When the rest of the Thunder were celebrating a Game 1 victory over Miami in the locker room, Harden could be heard grumbling over too few shots (five), and too few minutes (22).
Veterans Derek Fisher and Perkins laid into Harden, telling him essentially: We just won an NBA Finals game and the last thing in the world that ought to worry you are your individual statistics. Harden apologized, but it was clear his mindset wasn’t right. He never found his way back into a proper rhythm in the Finals.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba–inside-look-at-james-harden-s-trade-to-rockets-28301609.html
Wow.
darrell starks
October 28th, 2012
7:03 am
Big ? Will Harden be in a Hawks uniform next year.
If D12 not win a championship this year with 40year old Nash, 35 year old Kobe, 33 year old Gasol, 34 year old world piece, D12 COULD BE COMING BACK HOME.
TEAGUE, HARDEN, JOSH, HORFORD, D12
BILL LAMBIER THE COACH
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
October 28th, 2012
7:10 am
Teague, Harden, Josh, Horford, D12
Would be the best defensive team in the NBA.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buddy Grizzard
October 28th, 2012
7:13 am
Harden going nowhere. HOU has designated player exception OKC used to give Westbrook a 5th year. This means 78m instead of 54 over 4 years. Harden is Joe Johnson all over again. Joe had a chance to play with Amare and Nash in the prime. He walked to chase more money and be “the man” on a fringe playoff team in Atlanta.
Soon as I read in Woj’s column that Harden wasy CRYING ABOUT MINUTES after they WON AN NBA FINALS GAME I realized that it’s good the Hawks won’t have the chance to offer him a max deal after this season. Joe Johnson 2.0.
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October 28th, 2012
8:02 am
[...] AJC’s Chris Vivlamore reported yesterday that the Hawks have waived guard James Anderson and forward Damion James. Anthony Tolliver has made the team, and his contract will become guaranteed if he is still on the roster on January 10th. [...]
Just Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:45 am
I see now where OKC couldn’t offer 5 yrs because they had already used a 5 yr deal on Westbrook and they weren’t offering the max. New CBA is crazy.
Drizzy
October 28th, 2012
8:49 am
We need some depth on the wing wnd the dumass cut James, who actually had a great preseason…
ctrim
October 28th, 2012
8:58 am
James was a surprise but I’m not going to get upset about anyone that isn’t going to play regular minutes and James was neither the short or long term answer at SF. Good guy to have on the team but we have too many guaranteed contracts and need the flexibility to make trades.
Would like to see us get a distributing PG that can slow down the game when needed – especially in the playoffs and a taller Ivan type intimidator at Center to play short spurts when needed I like our team but we don’t have a lot of flexibility to adjust our game if other teams can match up with our quickness or can take advantage of our overall lack of size.
Nice to see Harden get traded- I think Oklahoma City did the right thing. Martin is no slouch when Healthy, Lamb could be just as good as Harden and they got 2 first round picks. Add the steal of drafting PJ3 OC is scary athletic, young, and not tied down to 3 max contracts.
Harden in Houston reminds e too much of when Joe came to Atlanta. Very good player but not a great player that can elevate his team to the next level. Houston will regret this in the end and should have kept all their assets. Hopefully they will pull out an 8 seed so we can get their pick, but I won’t be holding my breath.
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October 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
[...] coach Larry Drew narrowed the roster down to 14 players instead of sticking with the 15 allowed by the league, creating controversy in the process [...]