6:46 pm October 24, 2012, by Chris Vivlamore
What will the Atlanta Hawks starting lineup look like on opening night? CineSport’s Brian Clark and the AJC’s Chris Vivlamore discuss this and the implementation of the Hawks’ new offense.
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Just Joe
October 25th, 2012
12:48 pm
2 for John Drew…Personally, I’m not that interested in adding another free agent vet (Okur, Pietrus, Curry, Jones, etc…), but I am interested in if the Hawks can find a young big-man project to try to develop during the season. There may not be room for Jordan in Memphis…Orton in OKC….or Pittman in Miami. Those are the kind of guys that I’m hoping Ferry is keeping an eye on. Orton has me the most interested as he’s the youngest of the bunch and the Hawks liked him in the 2010 draft. Supposedly after the James for Crawford & #31 trade, we only sold the 31st pick after Orton had already been taken just a couple picks before.
MsDee
October 25th, 2012
12:53 pm
The Dallas Mavericks announced today that they have indefinitely suspended guard Delonte West. “We have suspended Delonte for conduct detrimental to the team,” President of Basketball Operations Donnie Nelson said. “The suspension is effective immediately and no other statements will be issued.” Dallas Morning News
MsDee
October 25th, 2012
12:55 pm
Delonte West: If I’m not what u lookin 4 ….That’s fine…just dont kick me in my ass on the way out the door….I didn’t do anything to deserve that… Twitter @CharleeRedz13
Delonte West: And it just ain’t right..imma leave it at that..no ill will towards no one…I’m just sittin here across from the arena wit tear in my eyes Twitter @CharleeRedz13
Delonte West: I love the city of Dallas..I love playin in the NBA…no I’m not off my meds…no I ain’t on no bipolar trip…this real people lives.. Twitter @CharleeRedz13
Delonte West: Just ask u to talk with me….I’m a grown man…that’s not above logic and reason…Before u go to the papers wit false information. Twitter @CharleeRedz13
Delonte West: That my name showin up in any fashion in a negative light is the worst thing that can happen.everything Ived worked towards out d window Twitter @CharleeRedz13
Delonte West: All my family friends fans…who been right der wit me this uphill battle over the last 4years to get to this point….already know Twitter @CharleeRedz13
Najeh Davenpoop
October 25th, 2012
12:57 pm
“Ok, let’s just get the obvious topic of many future blogs debates out of the way now. Joe, Marvin, Jamal and maybe Jordan will play well for their prospective teams. Could they have help the Hawks this season, maybe so. Now it’s settle.. Let’s move on…”
Haha. If only it was that simple. I’m sure if Shareef was still playing people would find a way to bring his name up too.
Astro Joe
October 25th, 2012
1:38 pm
We have bloggers longing for players who we didn’t draft, surely we can evaluate players who we kicked to the curb.
cp
October 25th, 2012
1:38 pm
Orton and Pittman are terrible. I would rather bring back Benson than have either of those two on the team.
Fort Valley Wildcat
October 25th, 2012
1:43 pm
Astro Joe 12:26 pm
Good Post.
So basically, despite the “core” being together so long, they never were that tight off the court
Astro Joe
October 25th, 2012
2:00 pm
Fort Valley Wildact, yeah, this is the first time I’ve heard a player say it so explicitly. It would be silly to expect that 12+ grown men would have the identical interests and would have a herd mentality and go everywhere together while traveling on the road. (I can’t imagine that 12+ of my best friends together in Dallas/Detroit/Orlando/wherever could uniformly decide where we should go for a night on the town). But it is quite a statement to say that when they were together in the same venue, that they went their separate ways. I think that is very telling (and something many of us suspected for the past 5+ years).
Ken Strickland
October 25th, 2012
2:09 pm
I don’t understand Drew’s position on the SF position. He says he’s going to utilize a SF by committee approach. He mentioned Korver, who scores from outside but doesn’t defend or rebound. He mentioned Stevenson, who defends but doesn’ t rebound or score much. He also mentioned Tolliver, who’s not a SF even though he has the size and height of one.
Then he mentioned Josh, who would require an entire frontline change and weaken our bench at center. He failed to even mention DJames as a consideration, and he’s had the most encouraging camp at the position by far. He would give us more size, athleticism, rebounding, DEF, passing, and hustle at the position than we’ve had in yrs, and wouldn’t disrupt our frontline orweaken our backup center position.
I read an article that mentioned that JSmith wasn’t fundamentally sound as a rebounder. It mentioned how he’s relied almost exclusively on his athleticism and jumping ability to get the job done, and when he loses those attributes he’ll rapidly decline. They felt moving him to SF immediately would be the best move longterm for both he and the team.
He definitely wouldn’t have to work as hard to get position close to the basket or score against most NBA SFs, which could all but eliminate him escaping to the perimeter to avoid so much inside contact. Besides, with us now having 3 potential PGs that can penetrate, dish, and create easier scoring opportunities near the basket, he might be more inclined to take advantage of that by staying closer to the lane.
Astro Joe
October 25th, 2012
2:11 pm
cp, Hawks do need a WIDE BODY, though. Honestly, any player signed at this point isn’t likely getting a multi-year deal from any team and isn’t likely going to make a material impact on the Hawks roster this coming season. My guess is that those guys are headed to the D League and we can add one of them to the 2013 summer league roster.
Buddy Grizzard
October 25th, 2012
2:40 pm
Thanks for that report on 92.9 The Game, AJ, I will definitely check it out.
Buddy Grizzard
October 25th, 2012
2:53 pm
MsDee that’s some whacky, wild, Kool-Aid-style news about DWest. That might be his last shot in the NBA.
MsDee
October 25th, 2012
3:00 pm
I know rite, Buddy..I kinda felt sorry for him, just reading his twitts
Ken Strickland
October 25th, 2012
3:04 pm
If CVIVs assumtion that we’ll carry a full 15 man roster is correct, it could be that the play of DJames forced them to reconsider their position on carrying a smaller roster. At this point, JAnderson has been the least productive player on the current 16 man roster, and he’s possibly played the fewest mins as well.
With it being highly unlikely that he’ll beat out James, it looks like James has made the team.
Wabe
October 25th, 2012
3:11 pm
This is one of the funniest rosters I’ve seen to date, not funny in a bad way necessarily, but just the emphasis on gaurds, the lack of a true 3, and the thought of how undersized this team really is. The other option to make up for the lack of size is Drew trotting out the ‘big lineup’ with Zaza, Horford, and J.Smith with some kind of combination at gaurds.
It’ll be interesting to see. There’s potential, don’t see the ceiling as high as some others here though.
Rod from College Park
October 25th, 2012
3:16 pm
“What is striking for me is that JJ shot a whopping 1 FT in 5 games (30 minutes per)…”
Why is that so striking? I have not seen JJ draw a foul goiing to the basket for the Hawks in 2 years.
Rod from College Park
October 25th, 2012
3:20 pm
“But it is quite a statement to say that when they were together in the same venue, that they went their separate ways. I think that is very telling (and something many of us suspected for the past 5+ years).”
I mentioned many times on the blog that Joe and Josh never really kick it like that. Iv’e been out many times and seen Joe in a booth with his people and Josh in a booth with his people. It’s not really that big a deal though. While Joe makes more money than everyone on the team, there is not much he can do in a club or a restaurant that Josh or Marvin can’t do. So why would they want to be up under him, when they have their own people to take care of.
Artman
October 25th, 2012
3:37 pm
From Steve Kyler’s web chat at Hoopsworld.com:
What would your All NBA Team look like starting from 2002 to now?
If you are asking me to pick the by position one team from players drafted from 2002 to now….
PG – Chris Paul
SG – Dwyane Wade
SF – LeBron James
F – LaMarcus Aldridge/Al Horford/Kevin Love — pick one.
C – Dwight Howard
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-rumors-chat-with-steve-kyler-102512/
MsDee
October 25th, 2012
3:38 pm
I really like the vibe I got after listening to Josh talk about how our new team bonded at a restaurant and a movie and basically how he compared it with the team of old with separation there. I know they are men of there own and dont really have to be all up on each other but then again, that what HELPS makes champions! The connection that LeBron, Wade, and Bosh plus add Chalmers to that crew gives them the necessary chemistry needed to be sucessful. I think with us being somewhat disconnected is what ultimately left us at our ceiling point. The “core” had to be broken up!
Dept. of Unintended Irony
October 25th, 2012
4:05 pm
“Kinda felt sorry for him, just reading his twitts”
When certain people tweet, this is the appropriate term.
b
October 25th, 2012
4:11 pm
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Buddy Grizzard
October 25th, 2012
4:12 pm
MsDee another good example of off court chemistry relating to on court success: OKC.
Astro Joe
October 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
Rod, I’m an old, broke married man who goes home and helps my sons finish their homework every night. So I have no idea what today’s night life scene is like (thank goodness).
I think it is relevant because it is relevant to Josh (or at least he indicated as much on the radio today). I doubt that it is an issue during each and every road trip, but it is at least on his mind like the Bilas comment from 7-8 years ago. If the little brohter feels “unloved” in social settings, it could create an issue between the siblings (especially if the older brother refuses to explain why he prefers to do his own thing). Again, it was an unsolicited comment about off-court chemistry between the current group and the old group. And it was made by one of the team’s captains (from the old group).
MsDee
October 25th, 2012
4:27 pm
Exactly, Buddy..OKC is another gr8 example!! This is why I like Teague’s tweet when he said, “Cool team we have this year”, or something like that.
Grandad
October 25th, 2012
4:46 pm
In the work place, any work place, we should all know that
we are happier and more productive in our jobs when we like
and enjoy the company of the people we work with.
One may not run around with these folks every nite,
but an occasional get together is at least fun.
I remember hanging out with my colleagues [teachers]
with whom I shared an office daily.
Just the camaraderie during each day made my job better.
As for coaches:
” coaches coach; so they can hang out with other coaches ”
-Don Meyer- … espy Winner
My point:
if this is true for us regular folk;
it stands to reason , it would be the same for professional teammates.
Grandad
October 25th, 2012
4:52 pm
Astro Joe
I`m old and broke – only difference my young-uns are all grown up.
I can relate !
As for nite life – Supper, TV, and the blog – is there somethin` else ?