Atlanta Hawks practice report: Harris cleared for contact practice

Vivlamore reporting from Hawks practice.

Devin Harris (knee) was cleared for full-contact practice Tuesday, the first time the guard has been able to participate in such drills since the start of training camp.

“He is moving really, really well,” coach Larry Drew said. “The speed is there. The quickness is there.”

Zaza Pachulia (groin) also participated in full-contact drills. Drew said he is moving well without pain.

“Still down the road,” Drew said of a timetable for the two players to see exhibition action. “Today was certainly a step in getting them closer to getting back on the floor [in a preseason game]. We’ll meet with our trainers as far as a target date but right now we have not set one.”

Guard DeShawn Stevenson (soreness) was a limited practice participant. Forward Anthony Tolliver (eye) participated in practice after suffering a scratch to his cornea in the preseason game against the Heat Sunday. He did wear protective glasses.

* The Hawks went through a contact practice Tuesday prior to departing for San Antonio and Wednesday’s game against the Spurs. (I will not be attending).

Prior to practice the team watched video of their offense against the Heat. On Monday, the film session focused on the defense.

“We still have guys hesitating on some of the offensive things as far as knowing their spots and their reads out of the spots,” Drew said.

* Drew said he wants the Hawks to push the ball and cross midcourt four seconds into the shot clock. He said they did a decent job against the Heat but at times reverted back to walking the ball up court.

* Drew would not disclose any details about the starting lineup or bench rotation against the Spurs. He said he needed to sleep on it but I’m pretty sure he already knows the plan. Drew did tell me Monday that draft picks John Jenkins and Mike Scott would “definitely” play.

* I’m not sure there is any insight to be gained by the practice groupings for 5-on-5 drills Tuesday but here they are:

White: Teague, Jenkins, Korver, I. Johnson, Pachulia, Petro

Blue: Williams, Anderson, James, Smith, Horford, Tolliver

Red: Harris, Muhammad, C. Johnson, Scott, Morrow, Benson

- Chris Vivlamore

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41 comments Add your comment

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:10 pm

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:15 pm

Welcome Mr. Harris…

Lou is your one. Mr. Harris is your two…

Prediction: Teague in foul trouble[2 foul rule] by the 6th min mark of the 1st qtr., he rides the bench for the rest of the quarter going into the 2nd..

Lou mins will increase as former NBA point guard and HC Larry Drew becomes more infatuated with his new [STAR] guard.. Hmmmmmmm

MsDee

October 9th, 2012
3:16 pm

And….slimjr :)

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:17 pm

Two way street professor.. Sometimes you cant reason with a decades long Fanatic..Hmmmm

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:22 pm

Hi there Miss Dee! You hear Chris dumped his #1 for Rihanna? WTFreak….Heh heh heh

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:23 pm

excuse me [MsDee]^^^^^

Luv Josh Smith

October 9th, 2012
3:24 pm

LD was very, very impressed with LouWill’s defense. We know the guy can score. Can he distribute the rock? If so we will have an interesting point guard competition with Teague looking possibly like the odd man out.

Ken Strickland

October 9th, 2012
3:27 pm

RA’MON-FROM PREVIOUS BLOG-A frontcourt consists of a SF, C, and PF, so SFs are definitely included in a frontcourt.

ASTRO JOE-FROM PREVIOUS BLOG-I seriously doubt that Ferry would consider trading his inaugural 1st rd pick as the Hawks new GM as soon as the trade deadline. He seems too committed to developing and playing his younger players to choose a vet 3pt shooting specialist like Korver, who’ll never be a reliable starter or defender at any position, or get any better, over a rookie with potential that has so many simularities with Reggie Miller coming out of college.

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:28 pm

Hey Drew play this stretch 4 @ the 5 sometimes. He could do no worse than Allstar Al escort service…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qn3A1YaQno

Astro Joe

October 9th, 2012
3:31 pm

Strickland, you must have misread something, I never mentioned anything about trading Jenkins… just that he may not get much playing time until after the trade deadline. If any “sharp shooter” is vulnerable to be traded in the next 2-3 weeks, I think Morrow will be the odd man out, not Korver.

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:31 pm

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:34 pm

He looked like Jordan vs. Patrick on this facial, receiving end of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z8UgoqE8yk

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

“#Hawks coach Larry Drew said he expects draft picks John Jenkins and Mike Scott to play in second exhibition vs. Spurs Wednesday.”

Great looking forward to these [two] [ballers] light it up!

GO HAWKS!!!!

Rev in Tampa

October 9th, 2012
3:43 pm

Lou will continue as 6th man. Teague is and will remain the starting pg.

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
3:53 pm

Can Lou distribute the rock?

Can fish Swim?

Ken Strickland

October 9th, 2012
3:59 pm

ASTRO JOE-It appears that I defiinitely misread your post, or at least part of it, and for that I apologize to you.

I don’t know how many of you remember the ESPN commercial where it showed that people who didn’t read or listen to ESPN were talking out of their anus’. But it seems that some of you were perfect fits for that commercial. I’d like to know exactly what is it about DHarris or LWilliams that should make JTeague be afraid of losing his starting PG position, other than LDrew’s bias towards vet guards?

Here are the stats of all 3 players from last yr. (Teague), Harris/Williams.

PPG(12.6)11.3/14.9, RPG(2.4)1.8/2.4, APG(4.9)5.0/3.5, SPG(1.61)1.02/.83, BPG(.56).21/.28, TOPG(2.0)1.9/1.1, FGA(10.2)8.6/12.2, FG%(47.6)44.5/40.7, 3PT%(34.2)36.2/36.3

Of the 3, Teague has the least experience, but the most upside and room to improve. Unless LDrew involkes his preference for choosing and playing more experienced players, I don’t see Teague getting beatout by either of these 2 players, especially LWilliams, who’s proven to be an extremely effective and valuable player coming off the bench.

tjhook

October 9th, 2012
4:05 pm

If Harris can show he has the ability to stay healthy, I am among the folks who should suggest showing Teague the door. Not for his ability, he’s a good athlete and competitor, but because the team needs savvy veteran leadership at the point guard position. Drew likes Lou Williams because he requires little maintenance; I’m certain he would take the same approach to Devin Harris. Smith and Horford are in their prime and our goal would be to find someone to play the small forward.
If Teague is to be traded, I’d like to see us go after combo guard George Hill of Indiana. Hill can play both position and has the sort of intensity that you want out of a guy who would be sharing time with Harris and Willliams. Indiana might like the move because to match salaries, we would have to send Korver or Morrow as well and that would help them with outside shooting which they are in need of.

tjhook

October 9th, 2012
4:06 pm

we also could ask for a pick from the Indiana as well.

The Truth

October 9th, 2012
4:09 pm

FTPB (Q and A with Anthony Tolliver)

“Q. What are those things that make you unique?

A. I think me being able to guard multiple positions. We have some guys who can do that but paring that with me being able to shoot and play multiple positions on the offensive end, I think helps bring more versatility to the team and more size.”

Danny has armed LD with all these prospects who all claimed they are the “answer” to the Hawks problems. Tolliver has been the most vocal about his claims of being the missing link to the Hawks success. His claims of being a stretch 4 who can hit 3’s isn’t exactly backed-up by his stats. His career has shown him to be inconsistent at best ranging from a season high of 41% (2010) to a season low of 22% (2008) with a career average of 32%. That isn’t really much to brag about.

In fact, everything about Tolliver has been inconsistent from his rebounding to his defense. His performing body parts suggest he is a very versatile player but it hasn’t effectively translated on paper. This profile sums him up in one word “POTENTIAL”.

I’m sure Hawksville is reminded of another player who fits this description. I’m sure Hawksville is reminded of another player who fits this description MARVIN WILLIAMS. Trading one for another, could be the equivalent of defining insanity.

LD is playing a role here as well. If Tolliver claim is to be an effective versatile player, then he should be tested accordingly. In the 1st preseason game, Tolliver played his entire minutes as a PF. He never matched-up against a SF or a C. Can he really run with the SFs or be an effective C, at least up to this point, we don’t know.

It will be an indictment on LD if he isn’t tested accordingly especially since the Hawks already have an abundance of PFs.

Chris Vivlamore

October 9th, 2012
4:14 pm

All: I will post another blog this evening on the how the Hawks must not forget about the low post in their new up-tempo offense. Look for it around 7 p.m. I didn’t want to hit you with too many blogs, too fast. Thanks!

grimey

October 9th, 2012
4:23 pm

Any way to watch this game?

Just Joe

October 9th, 2012
4:29 pm

What I get from those practice groupings is that the 3 guys on the bubble (Anderson, James & Tolliver), all ran with our 3 best players (Williams, Smith & Horford).

If one of these guys isn’t working out, I could see Ferry cutting them loose early so that it improves their chances of catching on somewhere else.

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
4:33 pm

You’ll have to stream it…Thanks to Al G-man who invented the internet so he says..

The Truth

October 9th, 2012
4:35 pm

“Any way to watch this game?”

No way to remotely watch

Listen: yes

Radio: WOAI/KCOR

Slimjr

October 9th, 2012
4:37 pm

TJhook if the Magic had taken Teague and AllNBA in a D12 trade they would be in much better shape going into this season..

Sam

October 9th, 2012
4:44 pm

#1. – The Red team is terrible. Poor Devin Harris playing with those guys.

#2. – I bet the Blue team was hoisting up some crazy, circus shots. Total ball-hogs on that team.

#3. – Somewhat interesting team, but I would be so ticked if you saw those 5 guys on the floor at once during a real game.

The Truth

October 9th, 2012
4:51 pm

“Thanks to Al G-man who invented the internet so he says” – Slimjr

Slimjr

I detect some sarcasm as if you don’t believe. Here is some info if you doubt “THE TRUTH”

http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/internet.htm

Najeh Davenpoop

October 9th, 2012
5:35 pm

Zach Lowe from Grantland has a massive NBA preview up (worth reading the whole way through, it is really good). He seems to have a relatively high opinion of the Hawks, even predicting that they might play in the 4-5 playoff matchup again.

slimjr

October 9th, 2012
6:07 pm

“All: I will post another blog this evening on the how the Hawks must not forget about the low post in their new up-tempo offense. Look for it around 7 p.m. I didn’t want to hit you with too many blogs, too fast. Thanks!” -Chris V-

Hey Chris, the Hawks #5 AllStar x2 AllNBA should not forget about the low post..

Ah, on second thought forget about it…..

Buddy Grizzard

October 9th, 2012
6:10 pm

“I’d like to know exactly what is it about DHarris or LWilliams that should make JTeague be afraid of losing his starting PG position, other than LDrew’s bias towards vet guards?”

Teague doesn’t have to worry about losing his starting position because they want to showcase him as potential tradebait. The point guard of the future is already under long-term contract and his name is Lou Williams. He will be showcased as a 6th man of the year candidate and will be on the floor in the 4th quarter this year more than Teague.

If not for the fact that the Hawks organization wants Lou to be a 6th man candidate, there is no question he would start over Teague. There is simply no aspect of the game whatsoever that Lou is not clearly better than Teague.

slimjr

October 9th, 2012
6:15 pm

“LDrew’s bias towards vet guards”

Like hot pea’s and butter this blogger is [red hot]!

slimjr

October 9th, 2012
6:22 pm

“its not who starts games, its who finishes’ -Red A.-

The Truth

October 9th, 2012
6:30 pm

Nice link Najeh

Interesting comment from that link about Utah:

“Favors is especially tantalizing — a potential game-changing rim protector who could mitigate Al Jefferson’s slow-footed pick-and-roll defense if Tyrone Corbin pairs them more often.” – Garland.com

LoL, Enough Said

slimjr

October 9th, 2012
6:31 pm

“If not for the fact that the Hawks organization wants Lou to be a 6th man candidate, there is no question he would start over Teague. There is simply no aspect of the game whatsoever that Lou is not clearly better than Teague.”-Buddy G-

Cosign Buddy G.

Lou > Teague all day..

Buddy Grizzard

October 9th, 2012
6:37 pm

“It will be an indictment on LD if he isn’t tested accordingly especially since the Hawks already have an abundance of PFs.”

Great post! Tolliver’s opinion of his own shooting ability is completely out of line with reality. He’s like Josh Smith in that sense but doesn’t bring all the other factors that Josh brings. We don’t need another jump shot happy power forward… we got that covered!

tony

October 9th, 2012
7:46 pm

I’m very excited about watching Lou Williams in action. This guy is a fearless competitor who can score with the best of them. The Sixers did not take full advantage of his potential and will regret it once he becomes an allstar. If LD decides to start him at the 1, have no problem with that. That guy will inspire people to come out to the games. Get the season going!

Ken Strickland

October 9th, 2012
8:58 pm

Except for PPG,(LW14.9 to JT12.6) and 3PT%(LW 36.3% to JT34.2%)LWilliams didn’t do as well as Teague in any other major OFF or DEF category, including APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, and FG%. How can anyone with a basketball IQ above zero, and/or any ability to read with comprehension, make the following statement after reading the comparisons that I presented in my previous blog, “THERE IS SIMPLY NO ASPECT OF THE GAME WHATSOEVER THAT LOU IS NOT CLEARLY BETTER THAN TEAGUE”. CLEARLY, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!

Ken Strickland

October 9th, 2012
9:05 pm

For the ANAL MINDED, JSmith can do no wrong, even though he’s done far more than his share. AHorford can do nothing right, even though he’s had 2 consecutive Allstar and 1 All Pro selection in his 1st 4yrs. And now JTeague needs to go because of DHarris and LWilliams, even though neither player’s overall production equaled or exceeded Teague’s overall production, especially defensively. Again, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!

Big Ray

October 9th, 2012
9:17 pm

Ken ,

It’s old news. Folks think that it was all faked. Yep, and all the other all-star/all-nba guys that the NBA coaches voted in are fakes, too.

After all, half-pint bloggers that spend all their time spewing venom are smarter and know more than NBA coaches. LOL.

tony

October 9th, 2012
9:48 pm

I wouldn’t have a problem sending Al Horford and Jeff Teague to Utah for the services of Al Jefferson and a future 1st round pick. I know it won’t happen but I like the looks of it.

Our lineup will look like this:

pg-Lou Williams
sg-DeShawn Stevenson or Anthony Morrow
sf-Kyle Korver
pf-Josh Smith
c-Al Jefferson

Ignition

October 9th, 2012
10:34 pm

Al Jefferson is a BUM.. Hell No