Atlanta Hawks: New contract for Smith ‘unlikely’ this season

Vivlamore reporting.

Josh Smith is entering the final year of his current contract with the Hawks but it is “unlikely” that he will be re-signed before the end of the upcoming season. The forward is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent next summer.

Don’t panic yet Hawks fans.

Under the rules of the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement, it could be advantageous for Smith, and to some degree the Hawks, to wait on a new contract. In simplest terms, if Smith re-signs with the Hawks before June 30, the extension can be for only a maximum of three years. If he waits until after his contract expires, he can re-sign for up to five years.

According to Hawks general manager Danny Ferry, Smith and his agents have said he would like to remain in Atlanta.

“I’ve been clear that I value Josh as a player,” Ferry told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “He has worked hard this summer and I believe he is going to have great season. I’ve been in contact with his representatives. Josh and his representatives have been clear that he is excited about the direction of the team and wants to be part of the future in Atlanta. That being said, I don’t expect the contract situation to be resolved until next summer.”

Smith and the rest of the Hawks will officially report for training camp on Monday with practices beginning the next day.

There is an element of risk for both sides in not reaching an agreement early. Smith could be injured or have a poor season prior to being eligible for the free agency market. There would be more money available to him by way of two extra years on a new contract if he stays with the Hawks. On the other side, the Hawks could lock Smith to a longer term but also run the risk of losing him to free agency.

Negotiations are not completely closed and there is always a possibility, albeit slim, that a deal could be worked out before next summer.

Smith, a co-captain last season, led the team in points (tied with the departed Joe Johnson at 18.8) and rebounds (9.6) per game. He and Jeff Teague were the only players to appear in all 66 regular-season games.

- Chris Vivlamore

105 comments Add your comment

ECF or Bust

September 25th, 2012
4:54 pm

go Hawks
wait grasshopper. see what developes.

ECF or Bust

September 25th, 2012
5:02 pm

funny how Josh couldn’t wait to get out of ATL and DEMANDED to be traded while Joe was here but now it’s all changed now that Joe is gone. hmmm???

vava74

September 25th, 2012
5:06 pm

AJ,

Actualmente I saw Tolliver guarding Lebron for a few minutes and being effective.

He is not a consistent player on any way, including D, but he is an energy guy who usually puts in a lot of effort, somewhat similarly to Mario West.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

September 25th, 2012
5:08 pm

I thought Josh wanted to stay after the Joe trade but a week or so later was unsure our direction and maybe wanted out again?

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
5:09 pm

I like Josh but don’t think he’s a max player yet.

PS

That yet maybe this year though.

We Shall See

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
5:11 pm

Max players are reserve for All-Stars

Ra'mon

September 25th, 2012
5:12 pm

ECF, that’s wrong. As soon as Ferry was hired, BEFORE Joe’s trade, Josh wanted to stay with the Hawks. Josh’s change of heart has more to do with the arrival of Ferry than the departure of Joe. Remember Joe and Josh were actually pretty close and good friends on the team.

Astro Joe

September 25th, 2012
5:13 pm

vava, actualmente, I saw Horford guard Derrick Rose for a few minutes. Seriously, now we’re asking an end-of-the-month signee to start at SF and defend Lebron, Pierce and Melo? I think Tolliver is a shorter version of Villanueva or a wider version of VladRad.

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
5:18 pm

Chris V

Get to the point!

Is Tolliver salary guaranteed or not?

NATIVE SON

September 25th, 2012
5:23 pm

@Chris V

You’re off to a great start

Chris Vivlamore

September 25th, 2012
5:27 pm

The Truth: I thought is was self-explanatory with 13 already guaranteed contracts that Tolliver deal is not guaranteed. I have updated the story. Hope that helps you.

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
5:32 pm

“The Truth: I thought is was self-explanatory with 13 already guaranteed contracts that Tolliver deal is not guaranteed” – CV

Well since Scott was partially guaranteed, I wasn’t sure he was included in the mix. Thanks for the clarification.

Sautee

September 25th, 2012
5:41 pm

ECF or Bust = slimjr.

LOL, like we couldn’t tell?

vava74

September 25th, 2012
5:43 pm

AJ,

Horford guarded Rose a possession here and there, not even one minute each time.

Tolliver guarded Lebron for 20+ minutes with some degree of success, with modt Wolves starters on the bench and the reserves mounting any incredible come back (20+ points) whilst Lebron was on the floor almost every single minute if I don’t remember incorrectly.

vava74

September 25th, 2012
5:52 pm

I checks the game stats and the point swing was not that big and Lebron’s production was still good although I did saw the third and fourth quarters and Tolliver brought I said he can do: bring energy.

Bringing energy is not something that I associate with neither Villanueva nor Radmanovic.

i_am_soulstar

September 25th, 2012
6:00 pm

Say hello to the D-League Mike Scott.

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
6:01 pm

“Can’t wait to get to know him, EvilDallas style and we’re still waiting for confirmation from the team regarding a guaranteed vs. non-guaranteed deal.”

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2012/9/25/3405894/atlanta-hawks-sign-anthony-tolliver

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
6:02 pm

Chris V,
I wasn’t alone

LakeDawg

September 25th, 2012
6:13 pm

Good move by the Hawks. Let the season play out and if he’s the same selfish loser, then cut him loose. If he responds to the new team dynamic, then we might have a superstar.

SB75

September 25th, 2012
6:21 pm

Can’t believe no one else noticed the error in Smith’s stats!

Chris Vivlamore

September 25th, 2012
6:29 pm

SB75: What error? Kidding, it’s corrected. Thanks for the catch. 7.5 was defensive rebounds.

Chris Vivlamore

September 25th, 2012
6:30 pm

The Truth: Sure you weren’t alone. I re-read and went back and clarified because of your comment. Thanks.

D Man

September 25th, 2012
6:33 pm

Smoove V is in the mix. This is how its done bloggers. Cut right to the chase scene. The new generation is now underway.

Gone is Marvin William, and Con & Ham

Pack your bags Larry Phew,and Al soft as Charmin Horford.

Way to kick this thing off Chris V. and Congratulations on assuming the leadership of this page. You’ve already made my day with the full and clear story on where we are with the J Smoove status.

Thanks bunches. .

HAWKS RULESSSS

September 25th, 2012
6:41 pm

D Man,Al isn’t soft. Did you not see the playoffs? When he came back beasting and played with emotions with an injury? That’s not soft,dude. That’s someone with a heart and leadership.

D Man

September 25th, 2012
6:43 pm

Chris V. what is the possibility that we can go after a center Like a Al Jefferson, or a defensive Center like JaVale McGee?

Obviously the hawks stumbling block to the advanced rounds of the playoffs is that we can not protect the rim in the half court sets.

Its no doubt in my mind that if we had a rim protecting center who has some offensive skills we could have a legitimate shot at moving further.

What are your thoughts there?

D Man

September 25th, 2012
6:59 pm

“D Man,Al isn’t soft.”

Mr.HAWKS RULESSSS I have never seen your blog name before so I will assume you are one of the regulars going undercover.

Al not soft? why do you think he had 7 turnovers in the most important game of the playoffs.They just took the ball from his soft… well, Im being polite today because its like a holiday with Mr V coming on board and the flushing of Con & Ham…

Al may be one of the softest centers in the NBA and that is very well documented. In fact most coaches scheme to get “escort” Al 1 one 1 under the rim to show case dunks.

Moreover, its pretty clear to me Al doesn’t like playing center.. His defense is like 260lbs 6′10″ of reluctance, prone to escort rather than defend.

This was a much better team with out Al than with him. and word has it that Al was the subject of those locker room spats Cunningham wrote about. His off season workouts and developments are basically just a go through the motions type workouts. Thats why he came in to camp last year out of shape. Then he tried to speed rush his way back in shape and torn is chest.

Al?

Al is a Houdini in the playoffs. When most players step their game up for the playoffs Al steps down. His dismal 12pt 9rb career average is even worse in the playoffs where he is 11pts and 7rbs.

Al?

Ivan and Zaza did a better Job than Al with more of a fighting spirit for 7 million less than what Al makes (1,000,000.000 per career point average 12pts=12mil).

Al Horford?

NO thank you.

D Man

September 25th, 2012
7:01 pm

*Then he tried to speed rush his way back in shape and torn his chest.

Ken Strickland

September 25th, 2012
7:06 pm

The only thing that’s soft as far as the Hawks are concerned is the grey matter between the ears of some of our so called fans. It certainly seems apparent to me that Ferry is loading up on premier long range shooters in order to make absolutely certain that the lane remains clear of any excess bodies when our frontline players post up, or our quick, fast, and athletic backcourt players attack the lane.

It’s going to be interesting, as well as exciting. to see 3pt shooters like Korver, Jenkins and Morrow, who’s 3pt FG% is as good or better than most players 2pt FG%, stretch DEFs. There won’t be a lot of help DEF with the kind of shooting we can put on the floor at almost any position. It’s going to difficult to predict who will make the final 12 man active roster.

KevinM

September 25th, 2012
7:08 pm

You gotta have some defense mixed in with all our superstar jump shooters!!

Stevenson / Ivan / Tolliver get playing time when defense is needed.

This guy is a comedic scholar

September 25th, 2012
7:12 pm

Enter your comments here

True Grit

September 25th, 2012
7:14 pm

The term [Anal Minded Moron] must be eliminated from this blog.Play nice.

KevinM

September 25th, 2012
7:18 pm

“Hawks GM Danny Ferry says he expects the team to be very competitive this season but stopped short of placing a playoff expectation”

If I was Danny, I would want this team to be lottery competitive should we get off to a slow start.

falCans

September 25th, 2012
7:37 pm

Lol funny now everyone is a Josh Smith fan….. Anyway like ive been sayin on here FOREVER, Smooth fa President

GT#Bosh fa Vice

Re post

September 25th, 2012
7:45 pm

Ken Strickland
September 15th, 2012
9:25 pm
This is all we need to say to defend Al sautee. You and I both know he will be good one day. Until then read the link below.
blogs.ajc.com/hawks/?p=6270&cp=10
Ken Strickland
September 15th, 2012
9:30 pm
IGNORANCE is a commodity that every human possesses, that’s called STUPIDITY.
+ you are an anal minded moron
When they continuously reject or refuse to accept that knowledge, no matter how many times or different ways it’s presented, and they hide their DELUSIONAL BS by using multiple names, yet continuously repeat the same STUPID DELUSIONAL BS over and over, then that’s called EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED, or INSANE. We definitely have at least 1 or 2 who fit this definition on these blogs. because they are psychologically damaged and just don’t know how to act. We’re seeing more and more of that type of mental deficiency being played out daily on these blogs by STEVEN A SMITH, and all of the various TS manifestations.
Only an extremely sick and immature mind could consistently derive any pleasure or satisfaction out of such a childish endeavor. It’s been said that there’s a thin line between genius and insanity, you anal minded moron. as s holes only sautee and I are geniuses the rest of you are truely insane, but they’re also dumber than 2 dead gnats.That is TS and Steven A. Smith and any other Anal minded as s hole moron psycho muther fcker who is not a fan of Al horford Fck you. Get some help you sick anal minded MORONS!!!!!!
and another thing go see a psycho doctor like me As s hole. Me and Sautee are the only smart ones and we are Al horford fans right Sautee?

D Mann

September 25th, 2012
8:03 pm

Well This is Josh’s team and so its time to recognize that.

True Grit

September 25th, 2012
8:16 pm

Ken Strickland you are the sick puppy that needs some help. You need to change your ways dude. Most of us dont like the way Horford plays and want him traded. You cant get upset about that.

Clarification

September 25th, 2012
8:24 pm

2012 playoffs:

Blocked shots: Josh Smith 1.0 / gm
Al Horford 1.3 / gm

Just the facts, ma’am.

True Grit

September 25th, 2012
8:32 pm

Hey sautee why are you using Clarification ? We all know who you are?

Clarification

September 25th, 2012
8:35 pm

Block Pct
1. Theo Ratliff 7.4
2. Tree Rollins 6.5
3. Dikembe Mutombo 6.3
4. Josh Smith 4.9
5. Solomon Jones 4.2
6. Andrew Lang 4.0
7. Antoine Carr 3.2
8. Sam Pellom 3.1
9. Jon Koncak 3.1
10. Greg Anderson 3.0

Its hard for me to swollow that John Koncak was better than Al but look at # 9 on the list.

Clarification

September 25th, 2012
8:36 pm

True grit I’m not me. that’s somebody else.posing as me.

Sautee

September 25th, 2012
8:37 pm

Sautee

September 25th, 2012
8:38 pm

prison mike

September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm

New hawks season, new beat writer, same whack jobs. Hopefully CV can clean up some of these posts. People from across the nation actually read this blog.

Anywho, looking forward to the work CV will do this season and beyond. It’s an exciting era in atl basketball.

Glenn

September 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

In other words both sides are being professional ,have genuine respect for each other , and are working on a shared direction . Nope not the same old Hawks .

True Grit

September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm

Was John Koncak really better than Al Horford defensively? Check out # 4 and # 10 on this all time hawks list. Lets also recognize that John played 3 more years than Al, but if you factor that in Al would still be about 250 block short in comparison to Jon Koncak. So Id have to Say yea, Jon Koncak was better defensively than Al.

Blocks
1. Tree Rollins 2283
2. Josh Smith 1305
3. Dikembe Mutombo 1094
4. Jon Koncak 747
5. Dan Roundfield 716
6. Dominique Wilkins* 588
7. Theo Ratliff 436
8. Kevin Willis 425
9. Cliff Levingston 371
10. Al Horford 356

Clarification

September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm

Good, good! Keep on thinking that I’m Sautee. If you only knew, you’d be shocked. hee hee

Clarification

September 25th, 2012
9:02 pm

Koncak: 784 games: bpg: 1.0

Horford: 317 games: bpg: 1.1

Just the facts, ma’am.

Grimey

September 25th, 2012
9:02 pm

Yo V man can you tell me if the hawks are considering Smith at SF Horford PF C Zaza it sounds like a very good starting group

[...] Hawks are not likely to be extending Smith. So Ferry told the Atlanta Journal Constitution. “I’ve been clear that I value Josh as a player,” Ferry told the Atlanta [...]

Hoops

September 25th, 2012
9:16 pm

Anybody go for these two trades?

Trade Horford to Utah for Jefferson

Trade Petro and Stevenson to the Suns for Dudley

Will the Jazz and the Suns go for those trades?