Back when Hawks coach Larry Drew added assistants Kenny Atkinson and Bob Weiss to join Lester Conner and Bob Bender, Drew said his staff was “set” for 2012-13.
But, according to a report out of Russia that was translated by Eurohoops.com, Drew is in Israel to meet with Maccabi Tel Aviv coach David Blatt. According to Eurohoops, Blatt recently signed a three-year contract with Maccabi but has a “turbulent relationship” with the club’s management.
UPDATE: Hawks GM Danny Ferry confirms that Drew is not seeking to add Blatt to his staff but went to Maccabi’s camp to observe, learn and share ideas with Blatt.
“Larry respects the international game and is enjoying the opportunity to share ideas with David Blatt,” Ferry wrote in a text message. “David is a heckuva coach and I know that Larry appreciates that David has been so open. I know Larry is enjoying the opportunity to closely watch [Maccabi's] program. It is a highly respected program.”
Blatt is an American native who played at Princeton. He coached the Russian national team to a bronze medal finish at the 2012 Olympics.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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AG
September 13th, 2012
5:03 pm
109
(tie) Jeff Teague
Atlanta Hawks | PG | Age: 24
2011 rank: #187 | @Teague0
2011-12 Stats GM PPG RPG APG FG%
66 12.6 2.4 4.9 .476
5.26
Daniel Christian @DChris_Hawks
And Jeff Teague is also better than Devin Harris, which will be evident when he starts over him. #NBArank botched it with Teague
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
5:13 pm
“I really never followed D. West, but why did his average drop so bad this year? Was it because he was not playing with CP3?”
New Team, new scheme, team who did not depend on one or two guys to be primary scorers, they spread the wealth, and playing along side Roy Hibbert who also became a very good option in the post.
jhan
September 13th, 2012
5:22 pm
Rod – are you sure you’ve watched West play a lot? I’ve never seen him play great defense or ever heard anyone make that claim. Do you really believe that the PG (passer) has little to do with a post-up players success? I would think someone with your self proclaimed basketball acumen would realize that where & when a player receives the pass has a tremendous amount to do with whether they are successful or not.
The Truth
September 13th, 2012
5:25 pm
Chris Broussard: “Despite what KPerk says OKC & JHarden not close to deal. Sides are talking. JH wants to stay but wants max. Let’s see if OKC blinks b4 10/31″
Lol, then that means he walks? The 6′5″ shooter is very good but is no max player. I haven’t seen any “new” moves from him lately, just the same old, saw old. With proper film study, he can be shut down. A Robin to Batman
jhan
September 13th, 2012
5:25 pm
So now the system a player is in can make a difference in their production. I guess that only applies to players someone likes.
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
5:45 pm
“So now the system a player is in can make a difference in their production. I guess that only applies to players someone likes.”
That is a joke right? You were being funny correct? Of couse the system can make a difference in a players production, you ever heard of the triangle offense, or the princeton offense. In case you were referring to me, which I assume you were, I am not a big fan of David West. I simply have the basketball knowledge to know that he is a highly skilled basketball player, and that some systems are better suited for certain types of players. On the David West situation for instance he averaged 12.3 ppg during the regular season on a new team, but then in the playoffs his ppg averaged went up to 15.3. The reason that happened is because he became more of a primary scorer for that team in the playoffs because he has the ability to create his own high percentage shots out of the post, and he has the ability to get to the line and shoot a high percentage from the free throw line. Also his team scored a lot off of transition points during the regular season, which is not one of his strengths, but when the game slows down (in the playoffs), his skill set becomes more valuable. Has nothing to do with who I like, has everything to do with basketball knowledge, and understanding the game.
jhan
September 13th, 2012
5:46 pm
No way is Harden a max player. Max players should be able to produce even when the other teams are geared up to stop them. No way Harden produces in that scenario. He didn’t even produce in the Finals when he was the third option.
jhan
September 13th, 2012
5:51 pm
Your understanding of the game is what I’m questioning – not the ability of David West. Perhaps if our system were to designed so Horford did all his shooting from the paint his game would be different. He has been asked to shoot from mid range & is very good at it. What about the whole PG issue? You don’t feel that is important to an effective inside game?
vava74
September 13th, 2012
5:51 pm
Correction:
“There are few back-court players more skilled than Jamal but that does mean – quite the contrary – that substantially less skilled players areN’T better players than Jamal.”
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
5:51 pm
“Rod – are you sure you’ve watched West play a lot? I’ve never seen him play great defense or ever heard anyone make that claim.”
David West scouting report that I found. What is with this putting words in my mouth. I never said that he was a great defender, I said he has the ability to step out and defend stretch 4’s which Horford does not, and I said he was a good post defender, not a good help defender. Scouting report below.
David West Statistics Generated Scouting Report
David West has outstanding scoring ability
Can get his shot off easily
Not much of a three point gunner
Can get to the free throw line
Very good free throw shooter
Average shooter
Mediocre off the dribble
Excellent post up ability
Average in transition
David West is not a good offensive rebounder
Not a good defensive rebounder
David West has solid passing ability
Average handle
David West has ability in the passing lanes
Gets an average amount of blocks
Pretty good at stopping open looks
Mediocre perimeter defender
Solid post presence defensively
Average defending fast breaks
David West has solid strength
Average quickness
David West is an excellent basketball player and top flight starter
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
6:02 pm
“Perhaps if our system were to designed so Horford did all his shooting from the paint his game would be different.”
Why on gods green earth would we desisgn a system to have our 4th or 5th best scoring option take the majority of his shots from the paint when he has no decernable post game. Larry Drew would be begging to get fired, and you question my understanding of the game. LOL
“What about the whole PG issue? You don’t feel that is important to an effective inside game?”
David West averaged right around 20 ppg his last three years at Xavier without Chris Paul, so no, I dont think Chris Paul had a whole lot to do with David West being able to score. It’s not like Chris Paul was throwing oops to David West like he does with Blake Griffin. David West was not out on the break finishing in transition. He was scoring out of the post, and off pick and pops, and pick and rolls.
vava74
September 13th, 2012
6:33 pm
Horford is a fine team player but his ceiling is roughly the same he had at the college level for that phase of his career.
In Florida he averaged 13 and 9 plus nearly two blocks per game.
If Horford went back to Boss Al levels of aggression his lack of developed post game would not matter he would score on putbacks and hustle plays inside and mixing it up with his mid range game.
Horford has the potential to be a 15 and 11 guy as an undersized C who hustles.
If he does not adopt this type of game, then he will not improve his numbers nor his contribution to winning.
ECF or Bust!
September 13th, 2012
6:52 pm
I expect to read about a Hawx trade any day now.
Go Horfs.
The Truth
September 13th, 2012
7:01 pm
Regarding what Ivan Johnson has been doing this summer:
Tweets
26 Aug Jablazin @jablazin
@Ivan_Johnson44
“I saw u n LA..u mot signin wit Lakers cause I can’t support dat.lol..jk. U know I support u.”.
Reply Retweeted
26 Aug Ivan Johnson @Ivan_Johnson44
@jablazin
“nah just out here training had to get away from that Texas heat”
As of Aug 26, Ivan was in LA with his family training. With Ivan new born, my hunch it’s not a question of if Ivan resign with the Hawks but when and for how much with roughly over 2 weeks deadline looming
Ken Strickland
September 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
ROD FROM CP-Once again you’re pulling statements out of you anus. If CP3 didn’t have any influence on DWest’s scoring, then why did he average only 12.8PPG the 1yr he’s played without him? I want to see what kind of lame excuse(s) you’re going to come up with.
Ken Strickland
September 13th, 2012
8:00 pm
THE TRUTH-The Hawks are capped when it comes to how much we can offer Ivan. If a team offers him more than our capped figure, he’ll have to take less to resign with us. I believe Ferry knew that from the beginning, which is why he drafted MScott. Both players are very simular in size, height, and ability, except Scott is more polished offensively. I hope he resigns.
Ken Strickland
September 13th, 2012
8:21 pm
If the Hawks get very lucky and strike gold with FAs Anderson and/or James, like we did last yr with IJohnson, this team will definitely be better than last yrs team.
SF-James, Korver, Anderson
PF-Smith, Johnson, Scott, JWilliams or Benson
OC-Horford, Zaza, Petro
SG-Harris, LWilliams, Jenkins, Morrow
PG-Teague(Harris, Williams)
This would be our 15 man roster if no additional trades are made. I see our 3 man inactive roster being filled by Scott, JWilliams, Benson, or Petro.
jhan
September 13th, 2012
8:24 pm
I never said we should design an offense around Horfords inside game – you used that to try not to answer the question. I would use Horford to set screens, rebound, play solid defense & shoot mid range shots. Pretty much the way he’s being used now.
I don’t believe West can generate his own shot off the dribble consistently. That means he needs to find his spot & have the ball passed to him. So it is important for him to have someone that can get him the ball. Same goes for any post player. That is basic basetball. Not sure why you can’t get that.
Slimjr
September 13th, 2012
8:32 pm
vava74
September 13th, 2012
6:33 pm
“Horford is a fine team player but his ceiling is roughly the same he had at the college level for that phase of his career.
In Florida he averaged 13 and 9 plus nearly two blocks per game.
If Horford went back to Boss Al levels of aggression his lack of developed post game would not matter he would score on putbacks and hustle plays inside and mixing it up with his mid range game.
Horford has the potential to be a 15 and 11 guy as an undersized C who hustles.
If he does not adopt this type of game, then he will not improve his numbers nor his contribution to winning.”
Brilliant!
All NBA Allstar? Right..
Can this Allstar be relied on to carry the team through tough times say like JOSH did last season for weeks on end? Pin drop-roll eyes..Whistling Dixie
Astro Joe
September 13th, 2012
9:09 pm
Slim, my guess, Josh won’t be on the court in the last year of his contract and allow another Hawk to “carry the team”.
Never a dull moment
September 13th, 2012
9:32 pm
Enter your comments here
The Truth
September 13th, 2012
9:58 pm
“THE TRUTH-The Hawks are capped when it comes to how much we can offer Ivan. If a team offers him more than our capped figure, he’ll have to take less to resign with us. I believe Ferry knew that from the beginning, which is why he drafted MScott. Both players are very simular in size, height, and ability, except Scott is more polished offensively. I hope he resigns.” – Ken
Yes, perhaps Danny anticipated that scenario in advance of drafting Scott; Or perhaps another scenario of losing Josh in an unforeseen trade demand. Either way, the Scott draft made sense.
I think if a team was interested in outbidding for Ivan services they would have done it by now. He’s still somewhat of an unknown around the league so teams maybe unwilling to bit on him just yet especially if its for more than a bi-annual exception deal. I predict he will resign which will diminish Benson chances of making the team.
Ken Strickland
September 13th, 2012
10:05 pm
ASTRO JOE-The question is, will Josh be his usual head strong self and continue launching jumpers and try to pad the score sheet to win a big payday and make the All Star gm? Or, will he conform to what Drew and Ferry want him to do for the team? I hope he sees the big picture and plays more team ball.
Slimjr
September 13th, 2012
10:06 pm
For you Grandad:
Coast to Coast AM/ 1510 WLAC
tonight’s show: 9-14-12
1am – 5am ET
10pm – 2am PT
Nephilim & Giants
Thu 09-13
Author and researcher L.A. Marzulli will discuss evidence for Nephilim in the Americas including skeletons of giants unearthed in the U.S., and archeological formations which pre-date Native American culture.
Grandad if see one of these guys[Nephilim] run.. heh heh heh
The Truth
September 13th, 2012
10:07 pm
Of course there would still be a slim chance Benson makes the team assuming he performs well and both Anderson and James stint it up in camp. Benson could win by default.
ntrigue
September 13th, 2012
10:29 pm
Hopefully he learns how to manage his player rotations during the game. And he also needs help with making in-game adjustments on offense and defense. Drew is a scrub! He will not be retained next year unless he suddenly transforms into a real basketball coach this year which I doubt!
The Truth
September 13th, 2012
10:30 pm
“Anderson and James stink it up in camp”
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
10:56 pm
“ROD FROM CP-Once again you’re pulling statements out of you anus. If CP3 didn’t have any influence on DWest’s scoring, then why did he average only 12.8PPG the 1yr he’s played without him? I want to see what kind of lame excuse(s) you’re going to come up with.”
Questions already been answered. Reading is fundamental.
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
11:40 pm
“I never said we should design an offense around Horfords inside game – ”
You said, ” Perhaps if our system were to designed so Horford did all his shooting from the paint his game would be different.”
Again why would we design a system for him to score in the paint when he has no post moves?
“I don’t believe West can generate his own shot off the dribble consistently. That means he needs to find his spot & have the ball passed to him. So it is important for him to have someone that can get him the ball. Same goes for any post player. That is basic basetball. Not sure why you can’t get that.”
He actually can create his own shot off the dribble and create his own shots from the post. Chris Paul is a very skilled passer, and was responsible for NOH being a very good team, but he is not the reason David West scored. David West skills are the reason he scores. Throwing the ball to a guy in the post is a basic basketball play that is learned early in basketball camps. It’s called feeding the post. Marvin Williams could do that. Its really not that difficult. While Paul gets assist for a a couple of the plays on the video, David West skill set is why he scores.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ai16mJGpsM
Rod from College Park
September 13th, 2012
11:54 pm
Other David West highlights. Notice the footwork, face up game, post moves. All his points are not because of Chris Paul. Its called skill. All Star All would be dominant with some of these skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YhmMwQcpi8&feature=related
Bill Knight
September 14th, 2012
12:17 am
David West got mad skills.
West 10, Al 0
Apples and Oranges
September 14th, 2012
12:20 am
What footwork.
NBA Rewind
September 14th, 2012
12:30 am
Ra’mon
August 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
KenS, Your list for reasons of keeping Al over Josh is full of so many things not backed up by actual stats.
1-is just as good at rebounding, — Josh is actually a better rebounder than Al, but Josh has always be responsible for getting back on defense to hinder any fast break opportunities. So Al always have gotten more OPPORTUNITIES on the offensive boards.
2-can play OC and PF equally as effectively, – This is a false statement. I did the calculations (you can do them yourself if you like). In all of the games (not even including the playoffs) that Al played PF in 2010-2011 (season before he was injured), Al averaged a whopping 12 PPG and 7.6 RPG. This is at his ‘natural position’ that you claim. That sounds like all star numbers doesn’t it? And in the playoffs where Al started exclusively at the PF position – Al averaged 11.3 PPG and 9.6 RPG while shooting 42% from the field.
3-is a much more efficient and effective scorer, – You can not be considered an effective scorer if you can not create your own shot. And if when you’re at PF or C, you can’t do any better than averaging 12 ppg, that is not a ‘SCORER’. I’ve never known of an effective scorer who averaged 12 ppg.
4-is a much better option as a stretch 4, – A stretch 4? How are you a stretch 4 and only shoots 42% from the field in the playoffs at the 4 position? What are you stretching there? Also who was the last stretch 4 to win a title? (Dirk isn’t a stretch 4, he is a scorer that’s different). You don’t pay a stretch 4 $12 million a season.
5-is just as effective as a passer since he generates fewer turnovers- How is he an effective passer when he can’t facilitate for himself or others. There are assists that come in the frame of the offense. And assists that come making a play. Aside from the one regular season Chicago game, Al doesn’t make plays. Al points come off of offense created by others.
6-is far more mature and far less tempermental – Have you ever had a conversation with Al or Josh? LD stated Josh was the first out of ALL of the players including Bibby, who’s basketball iq is never questioned, to learn the playbook. And then on top of that, on the off season after getting the closest to the ECF this franchise has ever been, Al reports to camp OUT OF BASKETBALL SHAPE. How is that mature? When Josh gained weight, it wasn’t because he wasn’t working out, it was so he could defend more in the post. Al just showed up not in premium shape, opposed to Josh, Joe, and Teague.
7-doesn’t lose focus and take plays off while arguing with the refs, – Name an all star in the league who really cares, and never loses focus for a play or two while talking with referee? Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Durant, Dirk, Melo, Rose, KG, Pierce, and Duncan have all been seen taking a play to talk to a ref, and it results in the opposition scores. Guess you don’t want those guys either.
8-is far more physical and capable of defending and scoring over bigger and taller players- This one is funny. So why couldn’t he score over Taj Gibson, Boozer, or Brandon Bass? And why was he shut down after Amare called Al out? Yet, Chicago puts their best defender in Noah on Josh, and Josh still go for career numbers in a series? Boston puts KG on Josh, and Josh still have great numbers while playing on one knee after being hurt.
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9-has been recognized by coaches, players and writers, and rewarded for his attributes, while Josh has been all but ignored because of his continued immaturity despite having All Star caliber talent and production. – Al was recognized because of injuries, and the fact that he plays a different position. A 12 pts, 9 reb center in the league, may get you into the all star game. However a 12 pt, 9 reb FORWARD won’t get you into any all star game. THAT is why Al made all star game.
10-has led the Hawks to the playoffs every yr since his arrival, when Josh and JJ couldn’t sniff the playoffs before his arrival. – Wrong. Al did not LEAD the Hawks into the playoffs. Was Al more effective than Sheldon Williams, of course. But the Hawks made the playoffs the first year more because of Mike Bibby’s presence. The Hawks were in the 9-10th seed before the all star break when Bibby was required. There’s a difference between LEADING and being an able body on a good team. IF he lead the team to the playoffs, how did they still manage to get a four seed without him playing majority of the season? I assure you, Chicago will not get the number 1 seed without Rose this season.
Al is a really good ROLE player. But making him out to be some sort of franchise savior is just wrong. I’ve never seen a player average 12 ppg for 5 seasons, and be considered so wonderful. Al is a pretty good center. I really like Al at the center position. However, Al is an average power forward. And he’s not a true difference maker.
Ra'mon
September 14th, 2012
12:52 am
This is my trade of the day.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8mcqsg9
Atlanta gets:
R. Westbrook
K. Perkins
E. Maynor
OKC gets:
A. Horford
J. Teague
D. Harris
OKC will consider this deal because it gets them from up under Perkin’s contract and allows them to have Horford at center while re-signing Harden with Harris’ contract expiring. This also will give the Thunder another young point guard to make a run with for the next few years, as Maynor will be up for a new contract and it makes him valuable.
The Hawks do this deal because it makes the team better offensively. It gives the line up a bonafide superstar. AND it makes the team a better defensive team. Westbrook and Perkins are both better defenders than Teague and Al. With Maynor being throwed in the deal, you can start Maynor at the point guard position (he’s more of a traditional PG). And allow Westbrook to play a pure scorer’s role at the SG position. Westbrook and Josh would make Phillips Arena electric with their fastbreak highlights and high energy play. Also with this deal, the Hawks would STILL be able to add a player like CP3 along with this line up in the off season. CP3, Westbrook, SF, Josh, Perkins is a team the Heat nor Nets want to see in the playoffs for the next 3-4 seasons. Imagine Perkins and Zaza doing the dirty work for the Hawks in the Playoffs along with Ivan. That to go along with the scoring of Josh, Westbrook, Williams, Korver, Morrow, and Jenkins.
Ra'mon
September 14th, 2012
12:54 am
Wow, why did you go dig that post up? lol
Ra'mon
September 14th, 2012
1:04 am
Hey guys, I know the blogmonster may get me for this. But do you guys remember how often a report came up during the offseason about the Hawks BEFORE Sekou reported it? Almost never. Why wasn’t AJC the first to know that LD was in Israel doing scout work with an Olympic medal winning coach? I mean really? How often is AJC the first to report about ANY of the Hawks transactions? Its like they do what most of us do, wake up in the morning check hoopshype.com and copy/paste when its something about the Hawks.
Rev in Tampa
September 14th, 2012
2:15 am
SlimJr,
I don’t understand your preoccupation with the Nephilim. I have not given a lot of consideration to who they may be other than what the Bible says in the few places they are mentioned. I will try to remember to give an extended post on the subject sometime, But I would approach the subject using the “Scriptura sacra sui ipsius interpres” principle (Holy Scripture is its own interpreter).
Regardless of who they are, I’d like to have one on the Hawks to protect the rim.
doc
September 14th, 2012
7:41 am
interesting comments from d rose on a really solid player fans here couldnt or wouldnt respect:
“Aside from his rehab, Rose has kept close tabs on his team’s offseason moves. He spoke glowingly of the decision to bring back Kirk Hinrich, with whom he played for two seasons before Hinrich was traded to Washington on the night of the 2010 NBA Draft.
“I got my dog back,” Rose said of Hinrich. “I think at the time, I was a little bit too young to appreciate him. Now, knowing what kind of player he is, as well as the type of person that he is—he’s a guy who wants to win. You’ve got to go with that, if anything. I’m the same way where I want to win at everything. So I know that I’m going to have somebody back there who is going to be fighting with me.”
Hinrich is likely to assume starting point guard responsibilities until Rose returns.”
players know who the team warriors are, fans dont in their preconceived false expectations and misplaced concerns over individual statistics. hinrich was as instrumental in his supporting dual roles, his marksmanship and defense as the other guards when we beat orlando and d12. still amazed he rehabbed so quickly to get back on the floor to lend support here last year, a true accomplishment of will as much as anything. i wish either he or especially andre miller could have found there way to a hawks uniform instead of bibby and stayed here a few years. neither were cp3 nor dwill who we pined for but veteran floor leaders who could have carried us further.
Just Joe
September 14th, 2012
8:31 am
I have no problem with Hinrich as a player.
At the same time, the price we paid for Hinrich, just kind of capped off a long run of bad PG decisions.
Signing free agent Speedy Claxton instead of drafting a PG started it all….The next step was the Bibby extension, followed by playing Bibby big minutes rather than seeing what we had in Teague….Then the Hinrich trade cost us two 1st rd picks….Then Hinrich gets hurt in the playoffs and we don’t see him again until the middle of last season….Compound all of this with the fact that Bibby accepted a cheap buyout just days after we traded him to Washington….I never disliked Hinrich as much as I was frustrated with how the position has been handled….Hinrich should not have been a starting 2-guard for any team in the league….He’s perfect for a backup PG to play next to a bench scorer like Jamal or LouWill.
Now we have two decent PG’s in Teague & Harris, but both are free agents after this year. Will we ever settle the PG position?
Buddy Grizzard
September 14th, 2012
8:35 am
“Both players are very simular in size, height, and ability, except Scott is more polished offensively. I hope he resigns.”
Wow, Ken S., I just don’t get the man crush on Mike Scott. Ivan is a proven commodity at 3 NBA positions. Mike Scott may have a long career in the D-League.
Astro Joe
September 14th, 2012
9:26 am
is a proven commodity at 3 NBA positions.
Really? Proven after ~60 games? At 3 positions? I guess we’re all set then, who needs anymore help when we have a proven player (reigning rookie of the month for the last month of the NBA season) on our squad, capable of playing every front court position. Whew.
Headed out to get the last Ivan jersey off the shelf at Sports Authority. And I can’t wait to watch him dominate the Rookie-Sophomore game in February.
BTW, I wonder if Scott’s non-NBA career will be as long as Ivan’s?
doc
September 14th, 2012
9:52 am
just joe, no doubts we have had issues with guard play now we seem to have an abundance. i hear you.
i would have loved to have seen hinrich here earlier. i never understood why they didnt take a run at andre miller through the years.
hinrich is much more in the acceptable price range for sure now.
still wonder if it was woody or bk that thought so little of the position to neglect it so in the long run of imposters we, as fans, had to suffer through.
last man crush ken had was on teague so dont throw m scott to the side of the road just yet.
looking forward to seeing action on the court and discussing it rather than the canni-blogging and over reaching speculations day in and day out.
doc
September 14th, 2012
10:05 am
from our sec of state:
“We can pledge that whenever one person speaks out in ignorance and bigotry, ten voices will answer,” Clinton said forcefully. “They will answer resoundingly against the offense and the insult; answering ignorance with enlightenment; answering hatred with understanding; answering darkness with light.”
better words never spoken. wish it could be each of our daily pledge’s starting as soon as we can speak. time for ecumenism.
Slimjr
September 14th, 2012
10:35 am
Ra’mon
September 14th, 2012
12:52 am
This is my trade of the day.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8mcqsg9
Atlanta gets:
R. Westbrook
K. Perkins
E. Maynor
OKC gets:
A. Horford
J. Teague
D. Harris
Excellent trade from one of the best at it on this blog: Ra’mon!
This is a Star driven league.. Westbrook is a Star!! One down one more to go..
Plus I like Perkins over Al everyday because of his size, defense, and he is a real warrior!
Rod from College Park
September 14th, 2012
10:55 am
DRose can say what he wants about Hinrich. He was a little over a bust in Atlanta. He made 8 mil per, never stayed healthy, is too slow to stay in front of most point guards in this league, and cost us two first round picks. Save the Orlando playoff series that we won, where he did contribute and played good defense on Jameer Nelson,, he barely contributed to this team while here. He surely did not help this teams basketball IQ, since his is so high. LOL
doc
September 14th, 2012
10:55 am
hmmm interesting comment:
Ryan is 0-3 in the playoffs. Manning didn’t win his first playoff game until his sixth season in the league, when the Colts routed the Broncos 41-10 in the wild-card round after the 2003 season.
in sports when you over emphasize one thing as a fan you miss other virtues just as important hiding behind the motto he hasnt won. yes i did it with lbj but that was because he was self proclaimed. peyton wasnt considered a winner because he didnt win the ring for some time in the college and pros thought his stats suggested he should. he was always a winner and capable; though a king he acted human.
wonder what we miss in our long time hawks capabilities because or minds grab hold and obsess elsewhere?
Ken Strickland
September 14th, 2012
11:00 am
DOC-AMEN TO THAT.
Slimjr
September 14th, 2012
11:04 am
doc, the colts defense won the first two playoff games with their stellar defense in the Championship run that year.
He’s still ring-less if that did not occur. He had to choke games again…Then finally busted out of his funk..
Maybe Ryan is on the same path? Still early..We’ll see.Stay tuned..
Slimjr
September 14th, 2012
11:08 am
The Falons are going to have to start beating up on the winners before they are considered a threat to compete for a Superbowl..
Ryan has 7x the talent surrounding him than MV7 had…
Its SuperBowl or Bust..No more excuses..
Slimjr
September 14th, 2012
11:08 am
[two]^^^^