Atlanta Hawks: Former coach Bob Weiss returns as adviser

Hawks GM Danny Ferry’s efforts to move the franchise’s player development program forward will include a reach back to the team’s past.

Former Hawks coach Bob Weiss is set to join Larry Drew’s staff as a coach and consultant. Weiss will be heavily involved in developing players and will sit behind the bench during games.

Drew said he had considered hiring an assistant with previous head coaching experience when he got the Hawks job in the summer of 2010.

“Somebody who could really watch and look at the big picture of the team, be that birdie on my shoulder as far as suggestions and ideals and what he sees,” Drew said. “I started interviewing and compiling a list of guys. I met with Bob for a second interview and I thought he was the perfect guy from a consultant standpoint.

“He will be sitting behind the bench, looking at things and giving me ideas and giving me opinions about different things with the team as a whole. I’ve always admired him from afar–didn’t know him personally–but watched from afar, even he when played. He has a wealth of knowledge.”

Weiss coached the Hawks from 1990-91 to ‘92-93 and also was head coach for the Spurs, Clippers and Sonics. He most recently was a head coach in the Chinese Basketball Association.

Weiss’ hiring is one of a few Hawks staff moves announced today.

Kenny Atkinson has officially been hired as an assistant coach. He’s a former Knicks assistant who earned notice when Jeremy Lin credited him with helping his development.

“Kenny came highly recommended as a guy who not only had experience as an assistant but also phenomenal player development guy,” Drew said. “I did a lot of research on him talked to a lot of people. I interviewed him a couple times and thought he was a great candidate to be that third assistant coach and a player development guy.”

Assistant coaches Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill will not return.

“I thought Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill did a really good job but, like with anything else, you are always looking to enhance what you have and try to make a situation you feel can help the ball club,” Drew said. “I felt it was time for a change.”

The Hawks hired Jeff Watkinson as the strength and conditioning coach. Watkinson worked at Indiana University before leaving in 2010 to take a job as Eric Gordon’s “personal development basketball coach.” Watkinson replaces Chattin Hill, who was with the Hawks for seven seasons.

Former Hawks GM Rick Sund, who has remained on staff during Ferry’s transition, will take on a new role as a senior adviser to the basketball operations. Sund’s duties will include scouting and he will split time between Atlanta and his permanent home in the Seattle area.

“Rick has been helpful during the changes and I think it’s a good situation to still have him available as a sounding board,” Ferry said.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

516 comments Add your comment

PD

August 28th, 2012
1:11 pm

Hey MC,

Was Wally Blaze let go too.

Priest Lauderdale

August 28th, 2012
1:14 pm

PD
No SLICK will be returning

PD

August 28th, 2012
1:14 pm

MsDee

August 28th, 2012
1:16 pm

Shelden Williams has signed with Elan Chalon of France. Elan Chalon

vava74

August 28th, 2012
1:17 pm

From previous blog:

Summer League 2012 stat lines:

J. Anderson G 27:25 FG3-5 3PT0-0 FT3-3 ± +3 Oreb1 DReb1 Reb2 Ast0 PF1 STL0 TO1 BLK0 BA0 PTS9

J. Anderson G 18:14 FG5-7 3PT1-1 FT2-3 ± +5 Oreb2 Dreb2 Reb4 Ast0 PF0 STL0 TO1 BLK0 BA0 PTS13

J. Anderson G 27:21 FG3-8 3PT1-2 FT1-1 ± -4 Oreb2 Dreb5 Reb7 Ast3 PF3 STL1 TO2 BLK1 BA1 PTS8

J. Anderson G 27:24 FG4-11 3PT2-3 FT0-0 ± +1 Oreb2 Dreb5 Reb7 Ast1 PF3 STL0 TO4 BLK0 BA1 PTS10

J. Anderson G 32:26 FG3-11 3PT2-6 FT5-6 ± -9 Oreb2 Dreb3 Reb5 Ast6 PF2 STL1 TO5 BLK0 BA1 PTS13

2012 (Las Vegas) SAS G5 GS5 Mpg26.6 FG%0.429 3PT%0.500 FT%0.846 OReb1.8 DReb3.2 ROG5.0 Apg2.0 STK0.4 BLK0.2 TO2.6 PF1.8 PPG10.6

on the good side, he seems to have recovered his long ball (not that the SL stats translate into anything on the real action but still…) and he seems to be a guy able to fill up his stat line.

on the bad side, he did fill up his stat line with a couple of horrible nights turnover wise.

Michael Cunningham

August 28th, 2012
1:19 pm

@PD: not that i’ve heard.

Astro Joe

August 28th, 2012
1:20 pm

So Sund and Weiss become advisors to the Hawks? We are well on our way to adding a lottery pick to the list of re-building assets next summer. Only thing we need now is to sign a wing with a busted wing and we should be ready to watch the ping-pong balls.

Astro Joe

August 28th, 2012
1:22 pm

FTPB, vava, what I took from those stats is that he got a goodly amount of playing time (26 minutes/game) and couldn’t maintain employment with the team that drafted him in the first round two years earlier. He may be able to work his way into the rotation by game 50 of the regular season, but I wouldn’t pencil him in above the other 37 guards on the roster just yet.

doc

August 28th, 2012
1:28 pm

i will say it, noooooo!

has weiss been anywhere good?

please just say no.

flip saunders ended up in boston as an advisor, but what can weiss advise on? no cred in my book ever.

first mistake df.

doc

August 28th, 2012
1:33 pm

hmmm a wing with a busted flipper and ordering up one with a busted wing?

Astro Joe

August 28th, 2012
1:44 pm

I’m just glad that we hired a strength and conditioning coach who isn’t affiliated with an oft-injured player.

MC, do you know if the Hawks are going to designate one of their assistants as the “big man” coach (Ty Hill’s previous role) or will position-specific development fall under the generic “player development” umbrella? Thanks.

Ken Strickland

August 28th, 2012
1:48 pm

ASTRO JOE-In life in general, do you always look for the negative in everything like you seem to do with the Hawks? Just wondering.

NekiUno

August 28th, 2012
1:48 pm

Wow, yall guys crying like girls right now, give these ppl a chance before yall watering your eyelids. I think we need have patience with this, no matter what

@MC
Do you think that Hawks might do one more trade before the beginning of the season for a SF? (I hope from Denver ofcourse)

Astro Joe

August 28th, 2012
1:56 pm

Strickland, nope, I’m actually the cheery one among my circle of family and friends. I just refuse to call a 3-legged rat an under-utilized, under-developed, full-of-potential family pet.

Sage of Bluesland

August 28th, 2012
1:58 pm

Solid hires by Ferry and ASG.

Buddy G

August 28th, 2012
2:12 pm

Eat this Horfy haters:

http://repatl.blogspot.com/2012/08/more-from-aaron-mcguire-al-horford-is.html

He’s one of the better floor-spacing power forwards in the league, and for his career, he’s shot an incredible 47% from the long midrange. Wondering where that ranks among the league? Consider this. Last season, only eight players in the entire league matched Horford’s career average from that distance.

He’s a lights-out passer, too — in 2011 (his last healthy season), Horford sported 3.5 assists a night. That was by far the best among centers in the league. And even if you compare him to players at his natural position of power forward, the only players that season who matched him in assists per 48 minutes were Lamar Odom and Tim Duncan.

Top Gun

August 28th, 2012
2:36 pm

Hawks can hire me as a scout, I can do better than R. Sund.

Astro Joe

August 28th, 2012
2:36 pm

tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Toney Douglas, Anthony Tolliver and Donte Greene shot over 100 3’s last season, made less than 25%. Welcome to the Josh Smith Club!

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
2:40 pm

Bob Who?

Just kidding.

doc

August 28th, 2012
2:43 pm

sage must be very sarcastic as i know he loves the basg.

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
2:45 pm

Just tested my scroll key! It works! Thank you Buddy…….

Y-A-W-N.

doc

August 28th, 2012
2:49 pm

buddy g folks dont know quality sometimes. in the orlando series 2011 which supposedly was won by the guards horford led the team in assists. not saying he is kareem nor duncan, neither of which is coming through our door or any other arena, just a good solid ball player who earns his money. i like chandler, dont like some of the other bigs in the east including bynum who will implode with a collins as a coach nor thabeet, so ill take him.

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
2:49 pm

With a Brain trust of Danny,Sund,Larry, and now the infamous Bob Weiss?

Now you talking. Look out Miami!

doc

August 28th, 2012
2:50 pm

retesting … retesting.

Court Vision | The Point Forward

August 28th, 2012
2:54 pm

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Falcons85

August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm

Weiss is a bum. Knew him when he was in Seattle. No work ethic brings nothing to the table.
You would think a guy in charge of developing players would get in players ears yell and provide instruction. It was clear he was just there to collect a paycheck.

pointguardslim

August 28th, 2012
3:24 pm

vava74 those James Anderson SL stats make me want to vomit

pointguardslim

August 28th, 2012
3:28 pm

Buddy G, now do Josh Smith as a SF and tell us about rebounding, and assists.

Ra'mon

August 28th, 2012
3:28 pm

Buddy, why do you think just because someone thinks of trade options for Al that they’re a Horford Hater? Could it be that they are more of a Hawks Lover than a Al Lover or Josh Lover or Teague lover? There’s not a single player on the Hawks roster who should be untouchable. So its good to see what the trade value is for ALL of your players. The problem is Josh only has one season on his contract, so teams aren’t going to pay a premium price for him, especially where you are going to get production back. Teague is still on his rookie deal, so it will be very hard to get true value for him because of the salary restrictions. That leaves Al as the next player. No matter how you slice it, Al may be overvalued for his level of production by other GMs in the league.

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
3:30 pm

The return of the self proclaimed [BasketBall Expert] 2014..Get ready folks!

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
3:33 pm

Ra’mon, forget trying to reason with the Al Horford [Fan Club] with acting President and CEO Sautee..

Astro Joe

August 28th, 2012
3:42 pm

Here’s what I don’t understand about the Weiss role. It sounds like he is in a temp job, “advisory role”. And there is history between Sund and Weiss from Seattle, so it feels like this is a Sund-initiated move, for them to work together and earn one last paycheck.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20060103&slug=websoni03

I’ve been suggesting for the past few weeks that the coming season is a “Transition” and essentially meaningless (important for individual players but pointless for the team in aggregate). But this is even beyond my forecast. This team may enter the season with about half of the players on one year deals, a lame duck head coach (along his long-time assistants) and interim advisors in Weiss and Sund. Our young players get the benefit of Weiss (assuming there is a benefit) for potentially a single year before he is replaced with a long-term player development leader.

Maybe Ferry couldn’t get the guys that he really wants for the long haul and decided to go with Sund’s “stop-gap” measures. It just all feels like instead of hiring talented perm employees, we have decided to use RandStad to staff positions on the roster, coaching staff and front office. If I didn’t know better, I would swear that the team is about to be sold and this is a modest attempt to get us from today through the close of the sale.

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
3:43 pm

“No matter how you slice it, Al may be overvalued for his level of production by other GMs in the league.” -Ra’mon-

NO HE DIDNT????????

HE SAID WHAT?????

SHIELDS UP SCOTTIE…INCOMING PLASMA BURSTS

Big Ray

August 28th, 2012
4:12 pm

Buddy G, now do Josh Smith as a SF and tell us about rebounding, and assists.

You don’t want that story.

No matter how you slice it, Al may be overvalued for his level of production by other GMs in the league.

You’re right. Because NBA GMs clearly don’t know as much as you and others who ummm…don’t work in NBA executive positions……

Okay, sorry, even I couldn’t keep a straight face while typing that.

Buddy, why do you think just because someone thinks of trade options for Al that they’re a Horford Hater? Could it be that they are more of a Hawks Lover than a Al Lover or Josh Lover or Teague lover? There’s not a single player on the Hawks roster who should be untouchable.

1) Why do you assume Buddy is talking about folks who come up with trade options for Al? Did he say that? Guilty dog….

2) It might have something to do with the same folks coming up with trade options for Al Horford and nobody else…every single time. So what “Hawks Lovers” are you referring to? Some folks can only think of trading Al….

3) No matter how you spin it, some of the same folks advocating trades for Horford have nothing to say about him but his negatives/weaknesses. So spare us the alibis. Not one realistic trade proposal has been made.

4) If you think Ferry hasn’t considered (and isn’t STILL considering) what he can get for whom, you’re crazy.

Big Ray

August 28th, 2012
4:15 pm

Ra’mon, forget trying to reason with the Al Horford [Fan Club] with acting President and CEO Sautee..

….Quoth the “I can’t think for myself, I’d rather ride the coattails of my intelligent comments” Club…..

Big Ray

August 28th, 2012
4:18 pm

Astro Joe ,

Because you DON’T know better. These guys (group formerly known as ASG) tried to sell the team to Papa John’s Pizz….oh wait, was that some other pizza chain?

Anyway, you could darn well be right about this. The one “bright” spot is that the team is unlikely to be moved. An owner would have to find a better market than even the fickle ATL one, which is not as easy as some might think.

Michael Cunningham

August 28th, 2012
4:18 pm

blog updated with comments from Drew.

Big Ray

August 28th, 2012
4:18 pm

Slim Jr ,

You’re getting slow. You should have fired back at me by now.

:twisted:

Michael Cunningham

August 28th, 2012
4:19 pm

@Astro Joe: “MC, do you know if the Hawks are going to designate one of their assistants as the “big man” coach (Ty Hill’s previous role) or will position-specific development fall under the generic “player development” umbrella?”

sounds like the latter.

Big Ray

August 28th, 2012
4:19 pm

MC ,

Seriously? That was all lame duck’s doing? I have a hard time believing it. Not questioning YOU, questioning lame duck…

Michael Cunningham

August 28th, 2012
4:20 pm

@NekiUno: @MC: Do you think that Hawks might do one more trade before the beginning of the season for a SF? (I hope from Denver ofcourse)

yes, i think they will make a trade to balance the roster. can’t happen with players acquired through trades (Harris, Marrow and Co.) until mid-Sept.

Big Ray

August 28th, 2012
4:21 pm

MC ,

Ha…that was lame duck’s doing? Seriously? Nah…..

Meanwhile, Slimjr will have a witty retort or a Star Trek reference in 5…4….3…2…Slim? Slim? Slim!

Michael Cunningham

August 28th, 2012
4:24 pm

@Big Ray: “MC , Seriously? That was all lame duck’s doing? I have a hard time believing it. Not questioning YOU, questioning lame duck…”

sorry, not following what you mean?

NekiUno

August 28th, 2012
4:37 pm

@AJ

I swear yall need a chill pill and let see what happens, besides, it been eons since Weiss was on the bench for us and we had the great one Babs as GM at that time. Let see what happens before u say “Woe to the World” or you can be a Thunder fan.

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
4:40 pm

MC, BRay sounds a little manic? Hmmmmmm

You know he has an audience one[Himself].. LOL!

Slimjr

August 28th, 2012
4:49 pm

BRay has a book in him he has yet to write.

It’s called [audience of one].

W.R. Terrell

August 28th, 2012
4:49 pm

We all had some feelings and thought changes would be good concerning our beloved HAWKS. I for one don’t think Ferry is here to make a losing team. Picking up a 6′6 wingman who can play defense and a former number 1 pick is not bad. Sometimes a change of scenery can bring about a positive change. The HAWKS are guard heavy and believe me more changes are coming. How many folks out there have bitched about LD and that includes me. When Weiss coached the HAWKS its not like they had a super dominant team but they were competitive. He may be goofy looking but he’s smarter then LD and he does have a way of toning down egos. One more thing if LD does not make it pass January there will be an experienced coach to finish the season. A lot is going on here and changing some assistant coaches as far as i’m concerned is a positive move.

Rufus1

August 28th, 2012
4:50 pm

Plan B…

Weiss, sounds like plan “B” if they have to fire LD during the season.

Buddy Grizzard

August 28th, 2012
4:52 pm

“bynum who will implode with a collins as a coach…”

I think Collins will be great for Bynum. The problem is that Bynum didn’t have to work hard or fight through double teams in L.A. Now he’s the focal point of the offense and defense. He will get double teamed constantly. When it goes bad for Philly this year, blame Collins the de facto GM, not Collins the coach.

Davidwilliamspph

August 28th, 2012
4:53 pm

Former coach Weiss is a man with great success and always willing to offer what you know and give all their knowledge will be of great help to the team. On the other hand the new hires are looking pretty good and hopefully a good sign for future seasons.