Atlanta Hawks: Former coach Bob Weiss returns as adviser
Hawks GM Danny Ferry’s efforts to move the franchise’s player development program forward will include a reach back to the team’s past.
Former Hawks coach Bob Weiss is set to join Larry Drew’s staff as a coach and consultant. Weiss will be heavily involved in developing players and will sit behind the bench during games.
Drew said he had considered hiring an assistant with previous head coaching experience when he got the Hawks job in the summer of 2010.
“Somebody who could really watch and look at the big picture of the team, be that birdie on my shoulder as far as suggestions and ideals and what he sees,” Drew said. “I started interviewing and compiling a list of guys. I met with Bob for a second interview and I thought he was the perfect guy from a consultant standpoint.
“He will be sitting behind the bench, looking at things and giving me ideas and giving me opinions about different things with the team as a whole. I’ve always admired him from afar–didn’t know him personally–but watched from afar, even he when played. He has a wealth of knowledge.”
Weiss coached the Hawks from 1990-91 to ‘92-93 and also was head coach for the Spurs, Clippers and Sonics. He most recently was a head coach in the Chinese Basketball Association.
Weiss’ hiring is one of a few Hawks staff moves announced today.
Kenny Atkinson has officially been hired as an assistant coach. He’s a former Knicks assistant who earned notice when Jeremy Lin credited him with helping his development.
“Kenny came highly recommended as a guy who not only had experience as an assistant but also phenomenal player development guy,” Drew said. “I did a lot of research on him talked to a lot of people. I interviewed him a couple times and thought he was a great candidate to be that third assistant coach and a player development guy.”
Assistant coaches Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill will not return.
“I thought Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill did a really good job but, like with anything else, you are always looking to enhance what you have and try to make a situation you feel can help the ball club,” Drew said. “I felt it was time for a change.”
The Hawks hired Jeff Watkinson as the strength and conditioning coach. Watkinson worked at Indiana University before leaving in 2010 to take a job as Eric Gordon’s “personal development basketball coach.” Watkinson replaces Chattin Hill, who was with the Hawks for seven seasons.
Former Hawks GM Rick Sund, who has remained on staff during Ferry’s transition, will take on a new role as a senior adviser to the basketball operations. Sund’s duties will include scouting and he will split time between Atlanta and his permanent home in the Seattle area.
“Rick has been helpful during the changes and I think it’s a good situation to still have him available as a sounding board,” Ferry said.
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Ken Strickland
August 30th, 2012
2:15 pm
VALVA74-You obviously missed my point. First, I wasn’t even referring to Horford, I was referring to Josh. Secondly, my comment about Durant being a one trick pony wasn’t a dig at him. The truth is, he is a one trick pony, he just happens to do that one trick extremely well.
And I wasn’t comparing him to Josh. I was just saying that if he can be as effective as he’s been playing SF despite his limitations, Josh can be just as effective at playing the position despite his limitations, just in a different way.
prison mike
August 30th, 2012
2:16 pm
Atkinson will be head coach soon. I just bout crowned his ass when the rumors of his hiring a few weeks back.
His ability to help develop guys like Lin is a prerequisite in today’s NBA. Don’t fret, Drew is will still get paychecks as top assistant.
Just Watchin
August 30th, 2012
2:20 pm
Horford at SF, Josh at PF, Zaza at C. Problem solved. Horford can lock down even the best pentrating guards (reference his 1on1 domination of Rondo last postseason,) and has the midrange jumper that you want out of your SF(and that Josh lacks.)
O'Brien
August 30th, 2012
2:34 pm
Ken,
Durant is still not a good example (imo).
1) Durant would struggle trying to guard PFs in the paint, while except for a few PF, Josh does an above average job when it comes to guarding the majority of other PF’s in the league.
2) Josh is a very good help/weakside defender, and playing PF allows him to roam a little bit on defense, and help protect the rim, where he gets a lot of his blocks. Josh at SF would be on the perimeter (and away from the paint) on defense. And Josh’s defense at PF is better than Horford’s defense at PF (imo).
3) On offense, Durant has a fluid jumper, and can score from anywhere. Josh’s jumper is inconsistent, and on offense, he is better off in the post, which is where you want your PF.
4) Josh is a better PF than Al (imo).
Ken Strickland
August 30th, 2012
3:23 pm
OBRIEN-the idea that we’d lose Josh’s shotblocking ability if he plays SF isn’t supported by any facts. In fact, he was our starting SF until MWilliams assume the starting SF position in his 2nd NBA season. And it might also surprise you to know that Josh’s blocks per gm average for those seasons he was our starting SF were much higher than they’ve been since moving to PF.
05-06 2.6BPG
06-07 2.9BPG
07-08 2.8BPG
Ken Strickland
August 30th, 2012
3:30 pm
OBRIEN-To say Josh is a better PF than Horford can’t be proven, because it all depends on what is needed from the PF position. Horford’s above average midrange shooting ability would certainly make him a better PF option than Josh if playing next to a dominant inside OC like DHoward or ABynum.
And what difference doesn’t it make if Josh is launching jumpers from the SF or PF position? With the size and height advantage he’d have over most SFs, he just might be encouraged to spend more time in the paint posting up smaller and weaker defenders, rather than launching ill advised jumpers.
terrell
August 30th, 2012
3:43 pm
I cringe everytime i think about seeing LD and Bob Weiss anywhere near my favorite team. This is the NBA, not a church convention. They look more like Deacons than coaches. I Hope Weiss has all of his Sunday suits ready. Im sure LD does. smmfgdh
MsDee
August 30th, 2012
3:46 pm
Former Charlotte Bobcats small forward, Derrick Brown, is set to workout with the San Antonio Spurs next week and the Atlanta Hawks the following week, according to his agent Calvin Andrews of BDA Sports Management. CSNNW.com
Rod from College Park
August 30th, 2012
3:56 pm
“I cringe everytime i think about seeing LD and Bob Weiss anywhere near my favorite team. This is the NBA, not a church convention. They look more like Deacons than coaches.”
Totally agree. Bob Weiss. LOL. That guy should never be able to step foot in a Hawks arena again, let alone be some sort of coach.
Rod from College Park
August 30th, 2012
4:11 pm
“And I am not fixated on any former Hawk who last played for the team in May, 2011. You won’t find me discussing Josh Powell, either.”
I matters not who you want to talk about. You can’t have it both ways. Based on your agrgument LD should be blamed for everything, and the players should shoulder no blame.
Rod from College Park
August 30th, 2012
4:13 pm
“WHERE IS THE PROBLEM??? If anything, u just gave him a very good compliment. He IS very active on the glass and very mobile..HE IS A FINISHER W/ AUTHORITY!!”
There is not problem. It is what it is. He is a solid player. But at 12 mil per season, he needs to step his game up offensively.
Rusty
August 30th, 2012
4:43 pm
Let’s face it LD is a very poor nba coach,get real
Just Joe
August 30th, 2012
4:57 pm
Every team that plays against Howard & Bynum has 2 to 3 guys ready to throw at them. Al Horford is never one of those guys for the Hawks.
Personal preference, but I hate having two starting lineups in basketball (a regular & a big) about as much as I hated when Bobby Cox would platoon outfielders.
I don’t have a center good enough to start against every team, so I’ll start this guy against 75% of the centers in the league & this other guy against the other 25%.
I don’t have a guy good enough to play every day in the outfield, so I’ll play this guy against righties & this other guy against lefties.
Both philosophies just bug me.
Grandad
August 30th, 2012
5:11 pm
Slimjr
Al does not possess a 1950`s set shot.
I`ve seen those close up and personal.
*note – [they were highly accurate, however]
Al employs a catch & shoot jumper;
without a great deal of lift.
*note – [highly accurate] … what`s the problem ?
Larry Bird`s jumper was not a textbook jumper [either].
Nor did he generate a great deal of lift on his jumper.
*note – [highly effective, I might add]
____________________________________________
Folks:
I`ve said this, and I`ve said this and I`ve said this !
Players are who they are.
Players are not a position.
Players are not a made up number:
pos [3] or [4] / option # 1, 2, or 3.
Basketball players are basketball players.
____________________________________________
Plus
Al and Josh seem to like one another.
They have chemistry on the court.
Their games compliment one another.
What gives with the animosity ?
____________________________________________
Hertofore:
The dumbest thing I`ve heard stated on this blog [lately]
-is-
Al rebounds better than Josh because Josh has to hang back
to play defense … therefore … yickity yaka yaka cracka lacka lacka.
-or-
something to that effect
” Be what you is, `cause if you be what you ain`t, you ain`t what you is ”
-Coach Don Meyer-
from:
” Things I Wish I Had Been Taught ” …[speech]
Grandad
August 30th, 2012
5:20 pm
* The Don Meyer quote was `sposed to be placed after the
proceding remarks: [in my 5:11 post]
____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
Folks:
I`ve said this, and I`ve said this and I`ve said this !
Players are who they are.
Players are not a position.
Players are not a made up number:
pos [3] or [4] / option # 1, 2, or 3.
Basketball players are basketball players.
” Be what you is, `cause if you be what you ain`t, you ain`t what you is ”
-Coach Don Meyer-
from:
” Things I Wish I Had Been Taught ” …[speech]
____________________________________________
-note-
The preceding quote and remarks
should have been placed together in my [5:11 pm post] !
Sorry I screwed that one up !
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
August 30th, 2012
5:23 pm
When is training camp?
Casey
August 30th, 2012
6:36 pm
Great! The coach with the worst record in franchise history! What is he going to advise the Hawks on? How to lose 70 games?
Slimjr
August 30th, 2012
7:35 pm
Let the games begin…
I hope the Hawks smoke Vava’s Crooklyn Nets!
Let the godfather games begin…
Ken Strickland
August 30th, 2012
7:37 pm
We know Ferry had a sit down talk with Josh shortly after becoming our GM. And we also know that what he told Josh made him do a 180 on his demand to be traded. What we don’t know is what they talked about and what he told Josh about his plans for the future of the team.
Just suppose Ferry told him that he wants him to consider becoming the teams starting SF once again. You know Josh bristled at the idea of us switching to an uptempo fastbreaking style. You know Ferry had to tell Josh something very encourging about both he and the team to get him to make an immediate committment to return.
With Josh usually going up against smaller shorter defenders at SF, and Horford at PF usually going up against smaller and shorter players, both players should improve their overall production. Zaza gives us more size, height and physicality at OC. How many SF can out rebound Josh, and how many PF can out rebound Horford?
That frontline also give us 2 quality help defenders in Josh and Horford. Josh is one of the NBAs best help defenders, and Horford at PF would give us good help defense. Zaza would give us his usual physical man to man DEF in the middle. The more I think and talk about this frontline, the more I like the idea. The only drawback I see in starting Zaza is the lack of quality depth at OC.
Slimjr
August 30th, 2012
7:52 pm
Just Joe, I agree with you that he is being protected by Larry with the defensive match ups..Glad you pointed that observation out this morning on the blog..
Imagine if he had Ben Wallace athleticism. He would be very intimidating on defense?
Championship caliber stuff..BTW Ben was listed at only 6′7″.
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
7:59 pm
The foolish Horford nut sniffers say Hey last year was Josh’s best year and the year before was Al’s best year so they are the same.. Thats like saying ken Strickland and Bobby Fisher both played chess and so they are the same.
Josh’s career Average is better than Al’s best year so we are talking apples and oranges. Al is an injury prone, defensive liability whose Offense is weak to.
Al Horford, Bob Weiss and Jon Koncak dead weight for the hawks. We got ride of Koncak.
So its true that Al was offered in trades 4 times then summer and none of the other teams took the offer. What does that tell you?
steven a smith
August 30th, 2012
8:00 pm
vava74
August 30th, 2012
2:04 pm
Vava74 and Grandad clearly know “Nothing” about Basketball! These guys are absolutely clueless when it comes to Talent evaluation and Team building. Please boys stick to checkers, pro wrestling, and reality TV.
Slimjr
August 30th, 2012
8:03 pm
“Every team that plays against Howard & Bynum has 2 to 3 guys ready to throw at them. Al Horford is never one of those guys for the Hawks.
Personal preference, but I hate having two starting lineups in basketball (a regular & a big) about as much as I hated when Bobby Cox would platoon outfielders.
I don’t have a center good enough to start against every team, so I’ll start this guy against 75% of the centers in the league & this other guy against the other 25%.
I don’t have a guy good enough to play every day in the outfield, so I’ll play this guy against righties & this other guy against lefties.
Both philosophies just bug me.” -Just Joe-
Maybe the NBA can expand the rosters to 20 men and then you can [adopt] the specialist mentality more readily as they do in baseball and football?
steven a smith
August 30th, 2012
8:05 pm
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
7:59 pm
Ditto! MaxxHawk is Right Own in his assessment of Tito Horford Jr. If Al could “Defend”, i would say keep him! The fact that he is a “weak defender”i prefer him coming off the Bench.
So its true that Al was offered in trades 4 times then summer and none of the other teams took the offer. What does that tell you?
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
8:11 pm
See I told you guys Ken Strickland smokes weed. Look at his sick very sick thinking. We have one of the top 5 power forwards in the NBA and ken want to move him out of his position for a Power forward who is rated 15-25. How illogical.
SEE WHAT WEED DID TO KEN? Now show your children some of Kens stupidity. It ,may hurt them now to read that s hit but they well never do drugs.
Most of the Al Horford Nut warming Cultist want to move Josh not because he is doing a bad Job, Oh no. there may be 3 maybe 4 guys in the entire NBA that can play the power forward on Josh’s level.
The want Josh to move because Al is a liability at center ( he would be at PF too, that why he is rated 15-25) and the serve their God Al so blindly they want to move him to Josh’s position to help Al. Not help the team.
LEAVE JOSH RIGHT WHERE HE IS AT. ITS THE 1 THING THE HAWKS HAVE GOT RIGHT.
If we find a taker for Al in trade then either he comes off the bench or we amnesty Al.
Zaza is the Starting center and Josh the power forward. Harris is the point guard That leaves 2 guard and 3 forward open. If Al wants a position led him try out for ether one of those.
steven a smith
August 30th, 2012
8:12 pm
Ken Strickland-Please leave “talent evaluation and basketball analysis”to experts such as myself and a few others who understand that we would be better off “Trading or Benching” AL “TITO” HORFORD JR. Please go back to your Pro-wrestling, Cheaters, Cops, and Jerry Springer type shows that you like to watch! Please leave the Big Boys alone Ken!!!
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
8:13 pm
**We got rid of Koncak.
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
8:16 pm
*They want Josh to move because Al is a liability at center ( he would be at PF too, that why he is rated 15-25) and they serve their God Al so blindly they want to move him to Josh’s position to help Al, not to help the hawks
steven a smith
August 30th, 2012
8:19 pm
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
8:11 pm
I could not have said it better MaxxHawk. That was” Beautifully” worded. Too many ManCrushes out there for Al. I can’t see it!
Grandad
August 30th, 2012
8:20 pm
People if any of you think that I was doing wrong with Sandusky I will remind you. Those are your thoughts.
Sandusky is a friend, some one. Friends Hang out together and have similar interest.
What is important?
I was not charged with any crime. Please dont ask me to explain.
steven a smith
August 30th, 2012
8:23 pm
“Brittney Griner can protect the Rim and rebound the Basketball better than Al Horford at this point in her career.” Hey, not a bad idea. I think she also has a better post game as well.”
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
8:30 pm
*Zaza is the Starting center and Josh the power forward. Harris is the point guard That leaves 2 guard and 3 forward open. If Al wants a position let him try out for ether one of those.
steven a smith Co-signing you at 8:12 pm.
I appreciate the way you take your messages right to the hornets nets. Right to the temple of the Al Horford Cult Phenomenon. Dont get it twisted, though. M.Cunningham is a cultist too. Its amazing that there are 4 legitimate stories about Al being offered in trade scenario’s in the last 2 1/2 months and not a word out of Cun & ham. Simply amazin.
We will never get above an average to good team with Al as a starter on our front line. Never. We are resigned to mediocrity. Perhaps why they are bring back Bob Weiss. Another clown like Al.
2 clowns, (bob and Al) or (Sautee and Ken) = 1 circus.
MaxxHawk
August 30th, 2012
8:32 pm
Grandad Keep that to yourself we are trying to make the hawks a better team. Thanks
Roger that!!
August 30th, 2012
8:33 pm
. Please go back to your Pro-wrestling, Cheaters, Cops, and Jerry Springer type shows that you like to watch! Please leave the Big Boys alone Ken!!!
Roger that!!
August 30th, 2012
8:35 pm
Most of the Al Horford Nut warming Cultist want to move Josh not because he is doing a bad Job, Oh no. there may be 3 maybe 4 guys in the entire NBA that can play the power forward on Josh’s level.
The want Josh to move because Al is a liability at center ( he would be at PF too, that why he is rated 15-25) and they serve their God Al so blindly they want to move him to Josh’s position to help Al. Not help the team.
fletcher t
August 30th, 2012
8:50 pm
I got the hawks winning 41 games as the team stand right now too many teams got better. We are working our way to the lottery.
AG
August 30th, 2012
8:55 pm
MaxxHawk – Yeah I agree, that Ken Strickland guy is smoking weed!!!! Yeah – we have to start ZaZa. He started most of last year and finished as a 8/7 guy. Heck – he is a career 6/5 and has never been given an All-Star game – so therefore his nimbers can’t compare to Al. Oh yeah – he had a career year in 07-08 of 12/7!
Yeah – and even in the playoffs in game five with the season in the balance – he blocked Rondo’s shot (My bad, that was Al.
He even came back after a major injury to play in the playoffs (Oh wait, that was Al)..
Why he is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo great, and his defense is sooooooo good he plays defense against Bynum and Howard. (Oh wait, that was Cornbread Collins and Damp).
Man – did you see that game were he dunked to win that Denver game – (Oh wait, he MISSED a wide open layup and the clock expired – actually did it twice).
What about all those nice catches from JT when he dunks the ball ( no – I am wrong again. I remember ol’ butter fingers dropping Teague’s assist by at least 2 per game).
Well at least ol’ butter fingers shows up big in the playoffs (no wait – he in kinda Marvin Williamish – with a 4.9/4.7 average in the playoffs.
No need to go over OUR over rated Al star center that the national media has ranked in the top 30 of ALL NBA players and some are saying is the best Hawk. Smokin’ Weed Strickland has already done that!
Maxx = stephen a smith I like how you keep changing your blog name and posting to appear a lot of people agree with you!.
Sautee
August 30th, 2012
8:57 pm
Good evening T-s,
Why are you telling this lie again?:
“So its true that Al was offered in trades 4 times then summer and none of the other teams took the offer. What does that tell you?”
No truth there, as you admitted to me earlier, neither of us were in Ferry’s office, so we don’t know what he might have offered, and there are ZERO press accounts of a definite trade being offered, just a lot of trade rumors, and writer’s speculation.
The entire blog already knows how you feel about Horford, so why are you compelled to lie about this?
And, T-s, as you well know, I do NOT want to move Josh from the 4. I still believe that Al and Josh are a potent combination. They will have more load to shoulder this year, and I’m looking forward to watching them play together again.
AG
August 30th, 2012
8:58 pm
One good thing the Hawks website has added 5 of Jeff’s top plays of 2012. Gotta like it when your point guard ’s highlights include posterizing dunks!
Sautee
August 30th, 2012
9:03 pm
AG,
I know you are doing your best to defend Horford, but you are incorrect about the end of Game 5. Horford did NOT block Rondo’s shot, as Rondo never shot the ball. What Al did was cut off Rondo’s drive and turned him back upcourt. Rondo then tried to pass but Josh tipped the pass out of bounds as time ran out.
Al played good D on that play, but he didn’t block a shot.
Sautee
August 30th, 2012
9:17 pm
T-s,
Here’s another lie: You’re on a roll tonight.
“Josh’s career Average is better than Al’s best year so we are talking apples and oranges.”
Josh career: 15.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.2 bpg
Al 2011: 15.3 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.5 apg, 0.8 spg, 1.0 bpg
So T-s, why isn’t it good enough to say that Horford’s best year compares closely with Josh’s career nimbers? It makes Josh look just as good without lying. I don’t understand the compulsion to needlessly exaggerate, particularly since you made your view known long ago.
I guess you’ll do what you must.
steven a smith
August 30th, 2012
9:23 pm
We are not the same guy. MaxxHawk is a better Blogger than myself! He posted some great Stuff 2-night!
Rusty
August 30th, 2012
9:51 pm
Steven smith should win a reward for being the blogs idiot.
Buddy Grizzard
August 30th, 2012
10:26 pm
Last year’s #nbarank top 50 on ESPN.com:
LOL at some of the people they had ranked ahead of Josh Smith:
1 LeBron James
2 Dwight Howard
3 Dwyane Wade
4 Chris Paul
5 Dirk Nowitzki
6 Kevin Durant
7 Kobe Bryant
8 Derrick Rose
9 Deron Williams
10 Blake Griffin
11 Pau Gasol
12 Carmelo Anthony
13 Amare Stoudamire
14 Steve Nash
15 Russel Westbrook
16 Kevin Love
17 Rajon Rondo
18 Manu Ginobili
19 Tim Duncan
20 Zach Randolph
21 Paul Pierce
22 Kevin Garnett
23 LaMarcus Aldridge
24 Chris Bosh
25 Al Horford
26 Marc Gasol
27 Rudy Gay
28 Tony Parker
29 Joakim Noah
30 Andrew Bynum
31 Nene
32 Joe Johnson
33 Andrew Bogut
34 Andre Iguodala
35 Ray Allen
36 Danny Granger
37 Tyson Chandler
38 Stephen Curry
39 Eric Gordon
40 John Wall
41 Monta Ellis
42 Kevin Martin
43 Josh Smith
44 Lamar Odom
45 David West
46 Luol Deng
47 Tyreke Evans
48 Gerald Wallace
49 Jason Kidd
50 Carlos Boozer
vava74
August 31st, 2012
3:07 am
Buddy,
You’re the one who gives creed to that cr@ppy and bogus list.
So why are you complaining?
fletcher t
August 31st, 2012
7:05 am
Buddy Grizzard That funny man, do us all a favor and step away from the key boards. The subject was power foward. not point guard and nor all positions. You have proven as many bloggers are stressing, that you are an idiot and have 0 (zero) credibility.
Chiming in on the Josh is average is better than Al’s best? Well thats because Josh sets a higher standard for his self than Al. Those are two different players at two difference levels. Josh is the best player on this team. Al is an oft injured role player who got his job taken by Zaza last year.
You tell me Do we trade whose career numbers are 12 pts and 9 rbs and go with the Duo of Ivan Johnson and Zaza who effectively cancelled out Al? I know alot of you have been comparing Al to Jon Koncak and Larry Drew To Bob Weiss. Larry Drew has apparently agreed and added his twin. Perhaps Al can Get Jon Koncak to work on his low post moves.
Baron
August 31st, 2012
7:08 am
Yea, Gizzard I only counted 2 power forwards on ‘your’ list ahead of Josh, so you are only proving what we already know Josh is an NBA top 5 (maybe 4) power forward.
Roger that!!
August 31st, 2012
7:23 am
So the gist of the ‘FACTS” are Al was the subject of hawks trade efforts this summer, as reported in the press.
Non of the reported trades of Al horford was accepted by the teams Al was being “shopped” too.
Buddy is an Idiot who makes an non credible post with no link. His list is so obviously made up and contrived that it obvious that a) Al was injured last year and was on nobody’s list and b) Buddly not only did not post a link but he did not screen for power forwards.c) Buddy is an verified Idiot.
So Al’s best is the low mark average for Josh. Al’s very best (he’s only done this once in his career) is about the average of what Josh has been doing all along 15 pts per game. It proves the point that Al his peaked, and that peaked is not very high.
Roger that!!
August 31st, 2012
7:28 am
Josh career: 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 3.apg, 1.3 spg, 2 bpg
Al 2011: 15 ppg, 9rpg, 3 apg, 0.8 spg, 1.0 bpg
Yea, Josh Career numbers are better than Al ’s one (1) decent year. The points are the same and since Josh is playing all the defense at the least al can do is go pick up the loose ball rebound. josh has more steals and blocks in his career average than Al has is his best 1 decent year out of his entire sub standard underachieving, team chemistry killing career.
AG revisited
August 31st, 2012
7:46 am
Al at is his best (1 decent year out of his entire sub standard underachieving, team chemistry killing career.) is just an average performance from Josh’s standard. Josh level of play is championship caliber. Al is just average.
There is not a hell of a lot of difference between Al and Zaza Al hold a slight edge in points but He is not the enforcer that Zaza , nor Ivan is for that matter. If I have to choose between a combo Ivan/Zaza or Al horford I choose the dynamic duo and get the same results for 7 million dollars cheaper and better team chemistry.
“Horford did NOT block Rondo’s shot, as Rondo never shot the ball. What Al did was cut off Rondo’s drive and turned him back upcourt. Rondo then tried to pass but Josh tipped the pass out of bounds as time ran out.
Al played good D on that play, but he didn’t block a shot.” – It was (as usual) Josh who knocked the ball out of bounds.
AG what you willfully ignore and apologize for is the FACT that Al committe 7 (SEVEN) TURNOVERS IN 1 FCKING GAME.!! and cost the hawks the playoffs!!!
How in the hell does your center commit 7 freaking turn overs in 1 game? Centers dont even handle the ball that much. WTF? What an idiot and clown Al is. 7 fcking turn overs in a PLAYOFF Game where he should have been the most rested player. Trade his under achieving, play of losing as now!