Atlanta Hawks: Former coach Bob Weiss returns as adviser

Hawks GM Danny Ferry’s efforts to move the franchise’s player development program forward will include a reach back to the team’s past.

Former Hawks coach Bob Weiss is set to join Larry Drew’s staff as a coach and consultant. Weiss will be heavily involved in developing players and will sit behind the bench during games.

Drew said he had considered hiring an assistant with previous head coaching experience when he got the Hawks job in the summer of 2010.

“Somebody who could really watch and look at the big picture of the team, be that birdie on my shoulder as far as suggestions and ideals and what he sees,” Drew said. “I started interviewing and compiling a list of guys. I met with Bob for a second interview and I thought he was the perfect guy from a consultant standpoint.

“He will be sitting behind the bench, looking at things and giving me ideas and giving me opinions about different things with the team as a whole. I’ve always admired him from afar–didn’t know him personally–but watched from afar, even he when played. He has a wealth of knowledge.”

Weiss coached the Hawks from 1990-91 to ‘92-93 and also was head coach for the Spurs, Clippers and Sonics. He most recently was a head coach in the Chinese Basketball Association.

Weiss’ hiring is one of a few Hawks staff moves announced today.

Kenny Atkinson has officially been hired as an assistant coach. He’s a former Knicks assistant who earned notice when Jeremy Lin credited him with helping his development.

“Kenny came highly recommended as a guy who not only had experience as an assistant but also phenomenal player development guy,” Drew said. “I did a lot of research on him talked to a lot of people. I interviewed him a couple times and thought he was a great candidate to be that third assistant coach and a player development guy.”

Assistant coaches Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill will not return.

“I thought Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill did a really good job but, like with anything else, you are always looking to enhance what you have and try to make a situation you feel can help the ball club,” Drew said. “I felt it was time for a change.”

The Hawks hired Jeff Watkinson as the strength and conditioning coach. Watkinson worked at Indiana University before leaving in 2010 to take a job as Eric Gordon’s “personal development basketball coach.” Watkinson replaces Chattin Hill, who was with the Hawks for seven seasons.

Former Hawks GM Rick Sund, who has remained on staff during Ferry’s transition, will take on a new role as a senior adviser to the basketball operations. Sund’s duties will include scouting and he will split time between Atlanta and his permanent home in the Seattle area.

“Rick has been helpful during the changes and I think it’s a good situation to still have him available as a sounding board,” Ferry said.

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Ra'mon

August 29th, 2012
5:05 pm

***Josh claims he wants to win, but IMO, Josh wants to be the one to make winning plays.***

AJ, that WAS your statement. So how did I say it wrong?

Astro Joe

August 29th, 2012
5:11 pm

I’d tell my kids to leave their “poorly-run” company quietly and respectfully (but only after they moved heaven and earth to make a difference from within). And I would advise them to leave in a manner that shows appreciation for the fact that the company gave them a job and likely provided them with skills and experiences that will help you land your next position (not to mention a salary that allowed them to get out of my house). You don’t leave bad-mouthing everyone around you… especially 12+ months before you actally leave. Come on, man!

Ra'mon

August 29th, 2012
5:14 pm

Ken, You must have never played or coached basketball before have you? Offensive rebounds or getting back on defense are every bit of related to one another. If my responsibility is to get back on defense to prevent any fast break opportunities. That mean when a shot goes up, I am sprinting back on defense even before a rebound opportunity is there. THIS is why Woody and LD would have Josh on the perimeter many times, not for the jumper, but to prevent fast break opportunities. Josh’s responsibility was to get back when shots went up. And Zaza’s and Al’s responsibility was to crash the board.

Also about Josh banging against those. Josh actually guards Duncan, Garnett, Noah, and Monroe when they play those teams.

AJ, when has Josh ever told his bosses that? But if he has said he wanted to go separate ways, nothing is wrong with that. And if Josh ever was that disrespectful, I’m sure Gearon and ASG would’ve traded him immediately.

Astro Joe

August 29th, 2012
5:20 pm

Ra’mon, where did I say AJ, you say Josh wants to be traded so he can be the one making the winning plays?

I did not say the cause of his trade request was the desire to be the man to make the winning plays. The two are not related nor did I create that linkage… you did.

Astro Joe

August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm

Ra’mon, disrespectful like not meeting with the front office within a few weeks of the season ending? If you say that you want out because you want to win, doesn’t that reasonably suggest that you are tired of working for an organization that is only doing the opposite of winning? If you tell your lady that you prefer to be with a pretty woman, any chance she WON’T be offended? Come on, man.

Astro Joe

August 29th, 2012
5:27 pm

Or to be more specific, “honey, I want out of this relationship because I want to be with a beautiful woman”. Somehow, I doubt that your lady friend would give you a loving good-bye kiss.

steven a smith

August 29th, 2012
5:28 pm

O’Brien

August 29th, 2012
3:20 pm

Steven A,

See Chris Redman and John Bob Parker getting CUT.

This is your idea of change? Last I checked, Chris Redman and John Parker Wilson were 2nd and 3rd string respectively, and have been that way for their entire careers.

Have you watched espn lately. Try the website http://www.thefalcoholic.com Change is coming Obrien whether you accept it or not my friend. Danny Ferry is not going to “Accept “Average Al” as his frontline center, PEROID.

Ra'mon

August 29th, 2012
5:29 pm

KenS, I’m not bashing Horford at all. And I actually like him. I just don’t think he’s irreplaceable. Scottie Pippen is my favorite player of all time. Yet, I know Lebron is better than Pippen ever was. Being able to analyze how Lebron is better than Pippen different aspects doesn’t mean I’m bashing Pippen. It means I’m simply comparing two players and rating one higher. Truthfully, I’d love to see the Hawks be able to trade Teague and Harris and get back a player like Westbrook or Rose.

Ra'mon

August 29th, 2012
5:32 pm

AJ, it wasn’t planned for them to meet the first two weeks after being eliminated. So its not as if Josh was a no show for a meeting. Josh lives in LA. Most organization wait weeks to do exit interviews. When Ferry was hired, Josh was out of town. However Josh did speak to Ferry and made sure his representative met with Ferry before he could get a chance to arrive in Atlanta. So Josh was never subordinate.

slimjr,

August 29th, 2012
5:42 pm

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Slimjr

August 29th, 2012
5:43 pm

Shields holding Captain!

Maintain Red Alert Scottie!

Aye Captain!

Slimjr

August 29th, 2012
5:49 pm

Josh lives in LAKER LAND?.

I hope the Lakers dont try and “steal” him as FA? Shoot…

Slimjr

August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm

Westbrook > Harden..We dont want Harden. ISO> Harden..

Al, Teague for Westbrook..Would OKC bite? Naw.. Maybe if you throw in picks?

steven a smith

August 29th, 2012
6:14 pm

Slimjr

August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm

Westbrook > Harden..We dont want Harden. ISO> Harden..

Al, Teague for Westbrook..Would OKC bite? Naw.. Maybe if you throw in picks?

Much too early in the evenig to be drinking slimjim.

Ken Strickland

August 29th, 2012
6:39 pm

RA’MOND-No Hawk player is irreplaceable. And yes, I’ve played and coached basketball, and I played guard. I’ve always seen, been told and understood that it was the PG or SGs responsibility to protect the perimeter against the fastbreak, not your rebounding, shot blocking PF. JSmith being the designated perimeter protector against fastbreaks is a new one on me.

Grandad

August 29th, 2012
6:55 pm

For Ra`mon and Ken S:

If Wdsn & LD have Josh as the get back guy on def
while never crashing the off boards;
then they should (or should have) be / been fired immediately.

*Let us all agree that most coaches have a guard as the get back guy.

*Let us also agree that Josh loafs back on def;
-or-
renders himself useless while carping at the referee.

Now;
Ra`mon made some good points, but I forgot what they were.

BasketballTopFan

August 29th, 2012
7:12 pm

Basketball Top Fan believes that the Atlanta Hawks have a very good basketball team.

The Hawks have a playoff caliber team that will go deep in the playoffs.

Basketball fans eagerly await the start of National Basketball League (NBA) 2012-2013 season.

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Sautee

August 29th, 2012
7:12 pm

Hey slim,

Props for taking the high road last night.

vava74

August 29th, 2012
7:18 pm

Both Ra’mon and AJ were stellar.

Ra’mon was more of a realist and AJ – funny enough – was the lyric.

AJ, you have to understand that the “values” which you cheerish in life are dimmed out in the sports’ world.

Ra’mon made plenty of good points (minus at least the one Rod agreed to) in “sports’ universe reality”.

AJ, you made plenty of good points in a fairly tale world which does not exist in sports.

Grandad

August 29th, 2012
7:19 pm

Ra`mon

Oh Yeah ” Bullies ”

” ‘warrior’ that coaches say they want
and that you see on each championship team.
Haslem, Battier, Chandler, Rodman, Kobe,
Garnett, Rondo, Bowen, and others,
these guys had something that wasn’t physical or statistical.
It was just something where you knew you didn’t want to be
between them and a loose ball ” -Ra`mon-

I`m glad you brought that up.

When I coached;
I would have my whole team made up of ” bullies ”
-so to speak- … if I could.
I tried to fashion my teams after the “Bad Boy” Pistons.
It is harder than you may think to find these type of players.

Ra`mon:
Here`s the kicker !
I suggest that Al; is / was /and will / continue to be that player.

” If Al had rumors going around from his father
that he didn’t want to play center anymore ” -Ra`mon-

1st … Let`s stop right here.
Conjecture !
-plus-
Al has no control over what his Dad may or may not say.

-last thought-
“Boss used to be a Bully” -Ra`mon-

I think Al is still a Warrior.
If; Al had a downturn,
it started when that coward Blake Griffin took him out.
*[research BG`s rep]

Ken Strickland

August 29th, 2012
7:20 pm

RA’MON-There must be an alternate NBA universe in existence since I haven’t seen our beloved do no wrong PF JSmith playing any of those OCs, certainly not day in and day out as you’re claiming. A 2 time All Star and All NBA center would be the 4th option on a championship team, and a PF who’s gotten no recognition by coaches, players or writers for anything would be the 2nd option? Where are your stats to back that one up?

Do you think Josh would be a 2nd option on the Lakers with Dwight, Gasol and Kobe, or the Thunder, with Durant and Westbrook, or the Heat, with Lebron, DWade and Bosh, or the Celtics with KG, Rondo and Pierce?

Grandad

August 29th, 2012
7:24 pm

-simply put-

Al is the Best Player on the Hawks.

steven a smith

August 29th, 2012
7:29 pm

Ken Strickland

August 29th, 2012
7:20 pm

Al Horford would “Not” crack the starting “5″ for Lakers, OKC, Dallas, Boston, Miami, Clippers, Memphis,,,get the point.

Help me understand if you think i am wrong, but i just do not see Al starting on the top 4-6 playoff teams from last season.

Grandad

August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

Before everyone jumps down my neck;
I`ll reference what Ra`mon said earlier:
*[paraphrased]
there are certain types of players that exhibit traits
geared toward winning basketball games more so than others.
These traits are often called “intangibles”.
Please allow me to list a very few
of these most important characteristics:
1. a Team Player
2. willingness
3. intelligence
4. the ability to make Teammates better
5. Leadership

A complete player should pair both Skill and Athletic Ability
with one or more of the above list.

For these reasons;
I have chosen Al as the Hawks best player.
He best exemplifies more of these characteristics than others.

Playing the position [3] or [4] is a made up thing.
The same for being the # 1 or 2 or # 3 option on offense;
it`s a made up thing, usually by some coach,
or sometimes the media. [e g; Skip Bayless]
In some cases the coach has no more notion about basketball
than does Bayless, and Skippy knows less than *zero.
*[or worse Rick Sund]

* In other words, this was not about stats.
___________________________________________

I really like Josh;
but folks around here seem to have forgotten about those nights
when Josh is a complete detriment towards winning basketball.

Grandad

August 29th, 2012
8:04 pm

steven a smith

When you get your driver`s license;
I`ll be glad to host a clinic for yourself and others.

Grandad

August 29th, 2012
8:05 pm

steven a smith
-Basketball of course-

Astro Joe

August 29th, 2012
8:11 pm

vava, I’m not sure what was fairy-tale like nor am I convinced that the standard-bearing organizations in sports handle their business so differently than “the real world”. Didn’t Pat Riley write a book about leadership that he hawked to corporations around the world? Aren’t successful head coaches often featured speakers at corporate functions? If the worlds were so very different, I doubt that there would be as much crossover. Obviously, there are differences, but some of the CULTURAL dynamics are quite similar.

Astro Joe

August 29th, 2012
8:13 pm

Amen, Grandad. Now pass the collection plate and let’s go get some Sunday School juice (grape Kool-Aid with a splash of lemonade).

Rusty

August 29th, 2012
8:16 pm

I just wish that we would have gotten a new coach.

Ken Strickland

August 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

Here are the stats for Josh and AL for the 2010-2011 season for comparison. I also included Josh’s 2011-2012 season to show how he managed to improve his scoring stats.

JOSH 2010(2011)(Horford)
FGA-13.5(16.7)(12.0)
FG%-47.7(45.8)(55.7)
FT%-.72(.63)(.80)
MPG-34.4(35.3)(35.1)
PPG-16.5(18.8)(15.3)
RPG-8.5(9.6)(9.3)
APG-3.3(3.9)(3.5)
SPG-1.29(1.46)(.77)
BPG-1.56(1.74)(1.04)
TOPG-2.6(2.5)(1.5)

With Horford out for the season Josh took some of Horford’s shots, which is the main reason his scoring increased, even though his FG% adn FT%decreased. But with a healthy AHorford in 2010, and without those extra shots, his OFF production wasn’t as great as in 2011.

Suppose Josh had been out for the 2011 season instead of Horford, and Horford averaged his 16.7 shots. With his very respectable 55.7FG%, he would have average around 20.5PPG. I got that figure by taking the 4.7 difference in shot attempts(16.7-12=4.7×55.7(Horfords FG%)=2.6179 extra FGs madex2pt per FG=5.2358pts+15.3(Horford’s 2010 scoring average)=20.5358PPG.

The difference in their 2010 scoring averages was due to the considerable difference in 3pt attempts that Josh took and made. As you can see, there’s no intelligent or logical reason to think Josh is a more capable scorer than Horford, which is why NBA players, coaches and writers gave Horford the awards and recogition instead of Josh. Plus there’s the attitude and maturity factor.

Ken Strickland

August 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

STEVEN A SMITH-I’m not a miracle worker. Anyone who thinks an All NBA and 2 time All Star center should be benched in favor of a DLeaguer(Benson), based on his summer league performance, is beyond any ability I have to make you see the light. No matter what, there will always be those who can’t see the forest for the trees.

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Rick James

August 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

I’m glad to se Nick Van Excel return..

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AG

August 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

Ken.. you are wasting good time with steven a smith. no matter how you flip it, he is a al horford hater!

Ken Strickland

August 29th, 2012
11:11 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1313730-ranking-each-atlanta-hawks-player-by-importance-for-2012-13-season

Here’s a MUST READ for all of you HORFORD HATERS, as well as you closet HORFORD HATERS. If you have any common sense at all, this article should help you see what others have tried to get you to see.

LMAO YALL

August 30th, 2012
4:22 am

Well no body is perfect but this proves the hawks are intent on mediocrity. They were unable to off load Al Horford, and now they bring in the mediocrity maestro Bob (ive never been a winner and dont care to be) Weiss who is also known as the joke of the NBA.

Yeah the hawks are headed to the Lottery. In fact Weiss is Drew’s replacement…LOL Hawks really know talent LOL

I bet Josh wants a trade now from these stupid idiots.

LMAO YALL

August 30th, 2012
4:34 am

Al should not only be benched but traded at the first opportunity. Dude is a loser.

The Hawks offer Al for Danny Granger the deal was declined
The Hawks offer Al for Tony Parker – no Deal
The Hawks offer Al to the Bobcats for 2 draft picks – no deal
The Hawks offer Al to Orlando (throw in teague) no deal

Bottom line the hawks cant find an interested team to take Äll NBA Mr.Average and 2 time AllStar (coach’s add on 5pts average).

If Al was all that then why doest any team want him. We could not get 2 draft picks for Al. Orlando as starved as they were and facing getting absolutely nothing for D12, refused the Hawks offer of Al horford.

The GM’s Al know, Al is an over rated bit role player that you dont build your team around. It only stands to reason that any team

Bob Weiss and Al Horford can only be serious about 1 thing. – Getting to the lottery as fast as you can.

LMAO YALL

August 30th, 2012
4:41 am

*The GM’s All know, Al is an over rated bit role player that you dont build your team around. It only stands to reason that any team

Any one who is critical of Al horfords sub standard career is a Hater? LOL I guess that easier than dealing with the reality of a sub standard career.

Al is a Joke and Steven A Smith, T.S. and the many many guys who criticize the Hawks for putting up with Al and his bull are right on the money.

Al is the 2012 version of Jon Koncak and Larry Drew is the 2012 version of Bob Weiss. I cant believe we have reinvented these clowns.

LMAO YALL

August 30th, 2012
4:46 am

*It only stands to reason that any team is not interested in trading for Al or making Al a significant piece of their team.

Al, Koncak and Larry Weiss Two (2) Clowns.

AG

August 30th, 2012
6:22 am

AJ – I saw Josh in Nevada at the Summer League games with Ferry. That did not appear a guy ready to be traded would be a meaningless game.

AG

August 30th, 2012
6:34 am

steven a smith Al Horford would “Not” crack the starting “5″ for Lakers, OKC, Dallas, Boston, Miami, Clippers, Memphis,,,get the point

So now Horford would be on the bench behind K. Perkins (OKC), Bass (Boston), J. Anthony (Miami), -D. Jordan(Clipps). I think the Lakers would trade Gasol for Horford …get the point

AG

August 30th, 2012
6:41 am

LMAO YALL = steven a smith

AG

August 30th, 2012
6:52 am

More love for the Hawks in the National media. Most of the love for Horford, Teague and Smith. Go to the 1:27 mark.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8314250

vava74

August 30th, 2012
7:48 am

AG,

Is stephen a smith also our good friend and resident lunatic T-s? I don’t think it is.

Perhaps some of the regulars can clarify this seminal doubt :-D

WHEN ARE THEY MOVING ?????

August 30th, 2012
8:05 am

WHY IS THIS HAPLESS JOKE TEAM STILL HERE ??? THEY NEED TO BE IN SEATTLE,
OR EVEN BILLINGS WOULD BE GREAT, JUST OUT OF ATLANTA ONCE AND FOR ALL !!!!

SCREW THE hawks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O'Brien

August 30th, 2012
8:29 am

Grandad,

I really like Josh;
but folks around here seem to have forgotten about those nights
when Josh is a complete detriment towards winning basketball.
.

But G’dad, he was only a detriment because he was trying to make something happen….because he wants to win so badly, and that makes it ok :twisted:

To be fair to Josh though, he does make more winning plays than those detrimental plays (imo). And if he ever puts it all together consistently, he would be an all-star for sure.

O'Brien

August 30th, 2012
8:31 am

Ra’mon,

AJ, there’s no way you offer Josh the absolute max. He’s not that type of player. However, he is worth a 5 year $80 million contract. .

You may not offer it, but I think Josh will be expecting a max offer. And who knows what his reaction will be if he doesn’t get it.

Josh is a number 2 option on a championship caliber team, IMO. Al is a number 4 option on a championship caliber team, IMO..

Since Al came to the Hawks, he has been nothing more than a #3 or #4 option, behind JJ, Josh and Jamal. But even as a #4 option, Al still managed to put up 15 and 10 2 seasons ago.

We saw Josh assume the role of #1 option last year, and he excelled. But let’s see what he does this season with no JJ on board. And let’s see what Al does since he has a chance to actually be a #2 or #3 option on game nights.

You may be right. But I think Ferry will use this season as an evaluation so he can see for himself what’s the best way to move forward. With either, neither, or both.

MsDee

August 30th, 2012
9:24 am

WTG KenS

Now THATS how u stick up for your team, WITH FACTS TO BACK IT UP!! Like I saud b4, folks on here will be sleeping on Horford..Heck, I will say it now, AL HORFORD WILL BE OUR 2ND BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM!!

Astro Joe

August 30th, 2012
9:27 am

Well, I’ve said for at least 2-3 years now that as long as Joe, Josh and Al were the best players on the team, the ceiling is the 2nd round. And I’ve also said that in order to get someone better than those 3, you’d need to trade at least one of them. Joe is gone for stale bags of chips… which could potentially net a player better than the 3 amigos. Butif I were ferry, i would plant o bring in 2 players better than those 3 next summer. Some how, some way.

AG, yes, all of the “Josh wants out stuff” was reported BEFORE the Ferry hire and Joe trade. Since the Hawks acquired all of these stale bags of chips, Josh has backed away from wanting out. I guess he is less concerned about losing in the first round with this current roster composition. Since all he cares about is post-seaon victories.