Atlanta Hawks: Former coach Bob Weiss returns as adviser
Hawks GM Danny Ferry’s efforts to move the franchise’s player development program forward will include a reach back to the team’s past.
Former Hawks coach Bob Weiss is set to join Larry Drew’s staff as a coach and consultant. Weiss will be heavily involved in developing players and will sit behind the bench during games.
Drew said he had considered hiring an assistant with previous head coaching experience when he got the Hawks job in the summer of 2010.
“Somebody who could really watch and look at the big picture of the team, be that birdie on my shoulder as far as suggestions and ideals and what he sees,” Drew said. “I started interviewing and compiling a list of guys. I met with Bob for a second interview and I thought he was the perfect guy from a consultant standpoint.
“He will be sitting behind the bench, looking at things and giving me ideas and giving me opinions about different things with the team as a whole. I’ve always admired him from afar–didn’t know him personally–but watched from afar, even he when played. He has a wealth of knowledge.”
Weiss coached the Hawks from 1990-91 to ‘92-93 and also was head coach for the Spurs, Clippers and Sonics. He most recently was a head coach in the Chinese Basketball Association.
Weiss’ hiring is one of a few Hawks staff moves announced today.
Kenny Atkinson has officially been hired as an assistant coach. He’s a former Knicks assistant who earned notice when Jeremy Lin credited him with helping his development.
“Kenny came highly recommended as a guy who not only had experience as an assistant but also phenomenal player development guy,” Drew said. “I did a lot of research on him talked to a lot of people. I interviewed him a couple times and thought he was a great candidate to be that third assistant coach and a player development guy.”
Assistant coaches Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill will not return.
“I thought Kenny Gattison and Tyrone Hill did a really good job but, like with anything else, you are always looking to enhance what you have and try to make a situation you feel can help the ball club,” Drew said. “I felt it was time for a change.”
The Hawks hired Jeff Watkinson as the strength and conditioning coach. Watkinson worked at Indiana University before leaving in 2010 to take a job as Eric Gordon’s “personal development basketball coach.” Watkinson replaces Chattin Hill, who was with the Hawks for seven seasons.
Former Hawks GM Rick Sund, who has remained on staff during Ferry’s transition, will take on a new role as a senior adviser to the basketball operations. Sund’s duties will include scouting and he will split time between Atlanta and his permanent home in the Seattle area.
“Rick has been helpful during the changes and I think it’s a good situation to still have him available as a sounding board,” Ferry said.
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steven a smith
August 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
brigadierjerry
August 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
I just think that Al would be better coming off the bench like he did in the playoffs against Boston.
Ken Strickland–i agree with some of the assessmennts you have on Al Horford, however, i do not believe he should be starting over Zsa Zsa or Josh.
steven a smith
August 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Ken Strickland is very close-minded when it comes to Al Horford. He sees the glass as half full for Al. Al’s game is not suited for a starting “5″ in the NBA, Period!
Clarity
August 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
“Ken Strickland is very close-minded when it comes to Al Horford. He sees the glass as half full for Al”
LOL, so seeing a glass half full equates to being close-minded. Says a whole lot without meaning to. Sounds exactly like the Tea Party to me.
steven a smith
August 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
Clarity
August 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
LOL, so seeing a glass half full equates to being close-minded. Says a whole lot without meaning to. Sounds exactly like the Tea Party to me.
Al Horford has peaked as an NBA player. He is that actor who could only be a star in the 1st Sitcom he appeared in,,ie…Robert Barone/Brad Garrett…Raymond’s loser brother.
Slimjr
August 28th, 2012
9:56 pm
Sautee, in the name of peace and stability on this blog, I will personally take you off my list of expert apologists. Okay?
Go in peace Sir….
Up next are the Nets really better than the Knicks as Joe say it aint so puts it? Hmmmmm..
BTW I will cheer for ISO and Marvin long as they are not playing the Hawks that particular night! Go Hawks!!!!!!!!!
Slimjr
August 28th, 2012
9:59 pm
I hope Marvin puts up 15 and 8 every night..Maybe a change of scenery will make a huge difference for him..He’s much closer to home[Utah to Seattle] now..
Buddy Grizzard
August 28th, 2012
10:04 pm
“Just tested my scroll key! It works! Thank you Buddy”
LOL Slimjr afraid his eyes might melt if he reads some positive press for All-NBA. Wait… is Slimjr really LaVar Burton, the actor behind Star Trek’s Geordi La Forge???!! Keep wearing those special shades Slimjr!!!
“Its been Buddy and others who act as if everyone isn’t on the table.” – Ra’mon
Ra’mon you got me wrong sir. Always enjoy your consistently good insight, but I’ve been discussing trade scenarios involving Al for years.
Also doc, I’m not seeing the contradiction. Collins is a highly respected coach who may coach the next US Olympic team, and he has a lot of influence over personnel decisions for the 76ers by numerous accounts. “De facto GM” may be an exaggeration, but you can bet he signed off on letting Lou Williams walk and trading Iggy.
LMAO at Sautee and SlimGeordi fighting like an old couple!
Wink
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Bring Weiss in is going backward, even as an advisor. Really how long will he be in this role, especially if it’s thought by some that he is too old to take LD’s job. Can you say budget hire.
ASG is so happy that Ferry was able to unload JJ & Marvin’s contract in little over two weeks, that happily will give Sund a little Golden Parachute to go away…by the way you can even split time between Seattle & Atlanta.
ASG has accomplished what they always covet, and that is to horde cash. Ferry has earned his salary for the duration of his contract. So it seems we are making changes, but the sell could still be in full effect. The bottomline is looking really good to a prospective buyer.
Show me where they have done anything, except addition (cash) by substraction (JJ & Marvin). Really, Ivan was a productive player for us last year, why have they not signed him already….playing games just like they did Childress & Josh!
In getting rid of those contracts, we are now a little guard happy; (Devin, Lou, Morrow, Teague, Jenkins, and may as well add Korver) but no one more happy than LD, because he like guards. He want to shoot more jumpers than he did last year and now he can really extend out to the 3 point line.
Most of the roster as constructed are on one year contracts which is good which again would be attractive to prospective buyers. The Free Agent pool has dried up. There is no one available to bring in worthwhile to play SF. So we have Stevenson, a small Korver, or Josh, which gives us no rebounding or shot blocking inside!
We can still finish in the top 8 in the East, but we will have no chance against, Boston (added two 7 footers inside with Garnett, Jason Terry, Bradley & Green will be back in line up, plus Doc), Knicks (added Jason Kidd to Melo, Amare, Shumpert, Chandler), Philly ( added a legitimate center in Bynum to go with their core), Chicago (Rose will return along with that Defense they play), and the champs Miami (added Reshard Lewis & Ray Allen). So we can’t get out of the East.
Should they manage to align the stars…they still have go against OKC who added Jones to their lineup (Ibaka & Harden get extended???) and Lakers (added Dwight Howard & Steve Nash to go with Gasol, Artest, & Kobe).
My point we are doing what we always do, nothing to improve the team, keeping a tight hold on the money, and we have gone quiet since the Lou signing. When will we address the SF & inside presence issue…ASG is satisified….just keeping it 100!
doc
August 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
buddy how can “one” help bynum and the “other” not, is what i heard you imply.
again phil one of the best at getting the most of people struggled to get there with bynum, kobe pushed him to no avail onlu inconsistency and collins is next in line to take bynum to the next level? not. collins is a very smart coach, just dont know if he is capable of doing what needs to be done for bynum and no one may be able to. ultimately it might come to a very bad crash is my guess. cant say it is on his resume either.
JOSH IS BEAST
August 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Enter your comments here
Slimjr
August 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
“Just tested my scroll key! It works! Thank you Buddy”
LOL Slimjr afraid his eyes might melt if he reads some positive press for All-NBA. Wait… is Slimjr really LaVar Burton, the actor behind Star Trek’s Geordi La Forge???!! Keep wearing those special shades Slimjr!!!” -BuddyG-
That is freaking funny!! heh heh heh heh
Buddy got Jokes!!!!!
doc
August 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
btw i might be like you looking for interesting people and story lines in the coming season. you can be sure that will be one, good or bad.
JOSH IS BEAST
August 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
al horford is solid fundamentally Sound GOOD player..period end of discussion ….smh @People hating..lol
doc
August 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
slimj i responded blog monster spit it out. bottom line, i am going to pull for both josh and al this season. they are neither perfect and maybe neither is an all star. they can be charmin al and osh without a j or boss al and beastly josh smash. i hope the latter show up. i am not going to root either guy down to make me feel better or make it seem my ego is somehow smarter than everyone else.
if people really do like one over the other and if it boils down to it, dont be sad if either or both do poorly and both get shipped. that is the catch 22 and irony of this silly diatribe that some and maybe you profit from, to have something to say. my mother used to say if you cant say something positive …
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you just might get what you want a down year by al and lose in the end as DF is holding the trade card. if it makes long term sense and the hawks are sucking with no guarantee of a signed josh, then no matter what josh might be gone as trade bait. so, best yee that want him begin to throw a little love towards al with the hopes he has a good season as well.
Slimjr
August 28th, 2012
11:21 pm
That Bynum/Collins relationship will be fascinating to watch unfold doc for sure..
I’m going to cheer for all the players. I want this team to reach new heights also..Long over due..
Ra'mon
August 28th, 2012
11:27 pm
Buddy, sorry for misrepresenting your statement then. Many on this blog seem to feel if you propose trading anyone, that means you don’t like them. And that’s not the case. So at times, its hard to see or tell. And many of the people who uses the terms “Al Haters”, “Josh Haters”, or “Al/Josh Lovers” are loyal to one of the two and almost against trading at all costs. Very FEW people on this blog believe that Josh and Al can productively co-exist on this Hawks team and contend for a championship. Most on this blog are for one or the other. I actually believe both could be on a championship contending team here with an all star added (I believe Josh can be the best player on a 2nd round team, but doubt on a championship level team yet). At the same time, if strategically moved, they both could be traded, and the Hawks be a championship caliber team in 3 seasons. Its like an argument between an extreme liberal or a tea party member, compared to a rational conversation between a conservative Democrat or a liberal Republican.
Ra'mon
August 28th, 2012
11:31 pm
Would anyone on this blog be willing to trade Al and Teague for R. Westbrook?
doc
August 28th, 2012
11:35 pm
buddy g any response or posture to say something rational with some of these guys, since there isnt a rational comeback, best they can say is, it is because you are an al lover. only response they can muster as most of their concerns are bluster like this all star al stuff that means absolutely nothing. not the smartest nor cutest derogatory comment he could be called. i like charmin soft al myself.
no one has disagreed with the concept al is an all star because there is less competition at that position, as, it is what it is. that isnt good enough to agree. so who is to be shamed? it is like marvin didnt draft himself 2, jj didnt hold a gun to anyone to get a max contract and al didnt lobby to have every center in the east suck. to shame someone for something out of their control is meaningless.
as a whole his “good” in stats holds up pretty good against most of the best centers in a league that isnt dominated nor will be by them. he has fit into the grand scheme of hawks basketball and doesnt take off on his own like a maverick or rogue. he aptly plays within himself, the game and the team concept. all really solid and why we chose him, as he was vanilla safe, not his running mate noah at fl or yi from china the others to consider but more risk involved that year. he turned out better than them and the number two we had on our roster before him or really the one a center in front of marvin that year. he certainly turned out better than the number one center portland got who became an alcoholic by his second year in the league, all facts. think we should be grateful instead of spiteful? some just spit venom as it must make them better in their world.
we missed al terribly last year as zaza went down before the playoffs and didnt that zaza have trouble scoring important baskets when he was right there in front of it at the end of games? al didnt let us down in the long run. it was mega bucks jj who couldnt carry the load once he got the torch as batman. not his fault either, he wasnt a superstar but paid like one and given the ball to be like mike.
again not his fault but his floater took him away from contact so he wouldnt go to the line a flaw at the end of games or was it jj just didnt like contact and shied away from it? besides the fact the offense died and lost its flow in the mean time as defenses only had to really concentrate on one guy. not jj’s fault to get the ball in that situation as he didnt grab it out of anyone’s hands but woody for setting it up and LD not being able to get them out of the dependence on it.
but anyway buddy g, dont be rational.
doc
August 28th, 2012
11:39 pm
slimj
I’m going to cheer for all the players. I want this team to reach new heights also..Long over due..
even all star al?
but i agree we better get onto some love for these guys. i really am hopeful while being skeptical at the same time that it wont be easy and hopefully a work in progress. LD is going to get coached up a bit on analytics, too. it is a transformation that i hope brings us a satisifed and energized josh with a good reasonable salary next year and a return to form of the boss so by next year we can cherry pick a few players to round and flesh out the team.
vava74
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
“Astro Joe
August 28th, 2012
1:56 pm
Strickland, nope, I’m actually the cheery one among my circle of family and friends. I just refuse to call a 3-legged rat an under-utilized, under-developed, full-of-potential family pet.”
MOST FREAKINGLY FUNNY POST EVER!
(don’t necessarily agree to the underlying concept, funnier it’s basically impossible)
Jae Evolution
August 29th, 2012
3:51 am
“Would anyone on this blog be willing to trade Al and Teague for R. Westbrook?”
Without hesistation, but I would stop forcing him into the PG position. Can he be effective there? At most times he can be. Should that be his primary position? Not at all if you ask me.
Russell was a SG in college so why not move him back there and let him wreck havoc at a position that won’t disrupt what a real PG can do for the team. Westbrook can be a complete double edged sword on offense, he literally can’t make up his mind on what is the right thing to do, so I say put him at a position where he will only attack and watch the kid become the next Wade.
Jae Evolution
August 29th, 2012
4:03 am
To further the point IF Westbrook were to ever be acquired and moved into a SG position, the team would need to get a true PG that could relegate Westbrook’s natural instincts to have the ball in his hands. I’m dreaming but if the backcourt of CP3 – Westbrook were ever constructed it would be ABSOLUTELY nightmarish to opposing teams.
It’s a false hope, but I feel Westbrook has been silently shopped by OKC a few times with some of his performances during the season and post-season, and with Paul being a FA I would say there is a .000000001 chance we even have the opportunity to get one, let alone both, Hah!
brigadierjerry
August 29th, 2012
5:23 am
stephen a smith,
With this team as currently constituted, who exactly is taking Horford’s starting position so Horford can be put on the bench?
vava74
August 29th, 2012
6:06 am
brigadier,
I think s a s is considering Petro as the Hawks starting C and maybe putting Horford behind Scott in the depth chart
Ra'mon
August 29th, 2012
7:25 am
Jae, remember the Hawks would still currently have Harris as the point guard here. And I agree. I would put Westbrook at the 2 guard. And would watch him drop 27-31 ppg. I think with Westbrook and Josh on board the Hawks would have a strong case to add CP3 or D12. Another option would be to add Tyreke Evans to Westbrook. I think Al, Teague, and Houston’s lottery protected pick could get Westbrook. This would allow OKC to trade Perkins and create space to re-sign Harden.
CP3 – Westbrook – Josh would give Miami all sorts of problems.
richbrave
August 29th, 2012
7:40 am
Thought I’d swing by and give a shout-out to my friends here on the HAWKS blog. Been absorbed by the BRAVES run for the pennant and my grandson’s game in YANKEE stadium, and workout with the BRAVES, ROYALS, GIANTS et.al. That, travel ball for two grandson’s, baby-sitting three days a week for granddaughters, plus my wife’s ilness makes for a busy summer. All the best HAWKS afns. Only two of DR.MARY B’s fab five left standing in the HOTLANTA.
richbrave
August 29th, 2012
7:49 am
I see DICK TARRENT still lives as KENNY ATKINSON is now an assistant with the HAWKS.
Developed by coach TARRENT as a PG here at the UNIVERSITY of RICHMOND, KENNY was a tough customer, and an excellent ball-player. I still see coach at the annual retirement-benefits gigs for the university.
Buddy Grizzard
August 29th, 2012
8:14 am
“buddy how can “one” help bynum and the “other” not, is what i heard you imply.”
Collins the coach will help Bynum because he’s the best coach Bynum has played for since Phil Jackson. Collins the “de facto GM” is not helping Bynum because letting Lou walk means there will be a lot more pressure to create offense. Bynum is used to having Kobe there to manufacture shots when the offense breaks down. If Lou Williams was still on the 76ers, he could play that role of offensive creator. Now the pressure is all on Bynum to create offense. Collins the GM did him no favors.
Ken Strickland
August 29th, 2012
8:43 am
It doesn’t make a lot of sense to complain about us having 17 guards and then suggest we trade away our starting PG and All NBA OC, and top rebounder, for another guard. With LWilliams, DHarris, JTeague, AMorrow, and JJenkins, why would anyone think we’d need more scoring potential from the SG position?
To put it another way, why give up Teague and Horford’s higher combined RPG, PPG, APG, SPG, BPG, and more efficient FG%, for one player that duplicates what we already have an abundance of? Take a look at Westbrook’s stats and tell me if he can make up for what we’d be giving up with Teague and Horford. You what to talk about being fans of certain players?
vava74
August 29th, 2012
8:51 am
Ken,
Stop looking at players as cumulative stats.
If you have an all star player who gives you 22 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals, … in 38 minutes, more often than not, you are not actually and effectively replacing that production if you have two players who can get the same stats in similar minutes.
That is not how things work. Basketball is a team sport and there are on court dynamics which are not translated in stats.
MsDee
August 29th, 2012
9:21 am
Well in that case, vava74, why give up 2 players for one when THAT ONE PLAYER could easily be stopped vs trying to contain 2 players??
KevinM
August 29th, 2012
9:40 am
“Jae Evolution
August 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
“Wilson Chandler is owed 26M the next 4 years….there is no way I touch him for those nimbers. IMO, another Marvin Williams scenario at the end of that deal. Denver overpaid.”
Jeff Green – 36M 4 years
Gerald Wallace 40M 4 years
Luol Deng – 26M 2 years
Tayshaun Prince – 22M 3 years
Danny Granger – 26M 2 years
Thaddeus Young – 35M 4 years
Trevor Ariza – 14M 2 years
Those are just numbers for guys on the East…I’m sorry but did you even see some of the SF contracts handed out to guys OLDER than Chandler who do LESS than he does? The guy is only 25 and most people forgot about him while he was in China then got injured, but for what he produces when on the court he is the friendliest contract out there, the numbers speak for themselves.”
Jae, just because all these guys are convincing teams to sign them to these deals, why would we fall down the same hill? We just dumped bad long term deals, and Chandler looks good enough to invest 26M? I don’t agree. Let’s just see if he even starts in Denver. His nimbers rival Marvin….haven’t we been here before?
And Chandler isn’t going to any all-star game this year or be in anyone’s big 3. That is what we need here more than another complementary player.
vava74
August 29th, 2012
9:40 am
MsDee,
Ken is trying to bundle stats from players who play on bad teams and against bench players from other teams as if that meant getting the same production from a starter on a playoff team.
ie:
10 ppg, achieved for instance by a guy like Morrow whilst playing for the Nets and even as bench player for the Nets in dozens of blowout losses cannot be added to the ppg from a similar player on a similar situation to give you a Ray Allen.
Astro Joe
August 29th, 2012
9:41 am
Roster full of guards, coaching staff full of guards. Anyone really expecting Josh and Al to stay in the low post this coming season?
vava74
August 29th, 2012
9:52 am
KevinM,
Man… 6.8 per from Chandler is more than fair price.
He is agile, long, good touch. Heck, he is offensively heaps and bounds better than Marvin and as far as I remember, decent on D.
He can even play token minutes at the PF, IMO.
Definitively not dollar store material.
If we managed to trade for him dumping some of our several thousand Gs I would do it.
glw
August 29th, 2012
10:11 am
I definitely think Wilson Chandler is a good bargain and an overall good tough player, but I dont see Ferry giving up his financial flexibliity on a long term deal. He will ride this year out with what he gots, other than swapping an expiring deal for a legit 3.
He wants to at least test out the free agent market and see if he can sign one of the big free agent targets next year. If he doesnt land one, then maybe they would visit a deal for Chandler if he hasnt been traded.
Astro Joe
August 29th, 2012
10:14 am
Co-sign doc at 10:11.
Read something yesterday that pointed out that Memphis will be a luxury tax team for the next 2 seasons unless they unload some contracts (or use their amnesty clause). The cap space next summer could also be used to secure one of their 3 frontcourt players for pennies on the dollar.
Astro Joe
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Oops, not doc, but glw. My eyes are playing tricks on me this morning, either that or I am just aging in dog years at this point. (Probably a little of both).
KevinM
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Vava, to me, Chandler is another Trevor Ariza, a Ron Artest who fills up the salary tank but is not a huge impact. He’s 5.9 this year, and 7+M in year 4. I think Denver jumped too quick on giving him this deal and I’m willing to let him play it out there.
We need to be thinking guys who are all-star material and who impact their team on a regular basis. I have yet to see Chandler do anything near that.
“Nice role player” – defines Chandler. Why are we trying to pump up guys like this instead of looking for true difference makers? It makes for a smaller pool, but it is what it is…it’s all-stars that make a championship.
Role players need to make Mario Chalmers type money. Those salaries aren’t hard to swallow.
On a side note, I will be totally surprised if Petro earns his 3.5M. This guy needs to be gone quicker than bringing him here. Throw Korver in that mix as well.
vava74
August 29th, 2012
10:44 am
KevinM,
Chandler was putting excellent numbers in NY before he got traded on that logjam which was DEN before the lockout.
1.4 blk per game to go along good shooting stats. I think he has very good potential and he will only be 26 at the end of this coming season.
Astro Joe
August 29th, 2012
11:23 am
Kevin, if the Hawks can’t afford a $7M player as their “4th guy”, then we need to start supporting a different team.
Just Joe
August 29th, 2012
11:28 am
I’ve seen where Chandler’s 4th year is a team option, but I do not see Ferry adding any salary for next year.
Ken Strickland
August 29th, 2012
11:30 am
VALVA74-You said it best when you said BASKETBALL IS A TEAM SPORT, and not a sport comprised of one All Star player. How else can I show that the production or stats of 1 player(Westbrook) can’t replace the production or stats of 2 players(Horford and Teague) without combining their stats and production? Now you want to dictate how I make my points.
That trade suggestion wouldn’t serve the team and its goals one bit. In fact, it would serve to hurt the team. It would only satisfy the fondness some fans have for Westbrook, and the total lack of appreciation some have for Horford and Teague.
BIG RAY alluded to the fact that some HORFORD HATERS try to deny who and what they are by claiming they don’t have personal issues with him. Yet, he seems to be the entire focal point of any trade suggestion you make.
If getting rid of Horford isn’t your main focus, why suggest trading your starting All Star and All NBA center and potential All Star caliber PG for an All Star PG/SG, who can’t function without the ball, when rebounding and interior size are already issues. After all, don’t we already have an abundance of guards? Why don’t you include Josh in your trade suggestions since he’ll be a FA and will cost the team much more than Horford?
To me, trading Josh and keeping Horford would make more sense, considering Horford
1-is just as good at rebounding,
2-can play OC and PF equally as effectively,
3-is a much more efficient and effective scorer,
4-is a much better option as a stretch 4,
5-is just as effective as a passer since he generates fewer turnovers
6-is far more mature and far less tempermental
7-doesn’t lose focus and take plays off while arguing with the refs,
8-is far more physical and capable of defending and scoring over bigger and taller players,
9-has been recognized by coaches, players and writers, and rewarded for his attributes, while Josh has been all but ignored because of his continued immaturity despite having All Star caliber talent and production.
10-has led the Hawks to the playoffs every yr since his arrival, when Josh and JJ couldn’t sniff the playoffs before his arrival.
Fortunately for the franchise DFerry isn’t stupid, and won’t do what some of you continuously suggest when it comes to Horford, and Teague as well. He’s positioned this franchise financially so that we can retain our current core of Teague, Horford and Josh, while still having the ability to go after 2 very high caliber FAs.
Stop pissing on these blogs while claiming it’s raining.
doc
August 29th, 2012
11:36 am
Ah he giveth and he taketh away. So you disagree with the comments made at 10pm ish, AJ?
BG, thanks for filling it out and agree with what you said. Still not confident bynum and collins wont clash in a case of wills. I dont think you will disagree that wont be a story to watch for one way or the other.
doc
August 29th, 2012
11:47 am
Ken S some truth there but some still are in the desert seeing mirages. Heh heh
Maybe you can also say some positives about josh to balance it out.
Ken, I like both guys as they compliment each other well. Argued some of that a long time ago with a brother no longer here that seemed to not like the combo.
Anyone hear if Zaza has healed his fracture? Did he play any ball this summer? Hope he hasnt lost his spring like they say happened to Anderson. Oh? Zaza has no spring to lose?
Overall not too concerned if they look to all the factors including PT, foot support and proper footwear and getting suppliments like d3 to strengthen bone along with mg, boron and k2. If it was within ankle that is another matter.
Astro Joe
August 29th, 2012
11:55 am
doc, sorry, i was mostly interested in the Chandler banter, as i like his game (and contract). But I also agree with Just Joe, Ferry won’t likely add any long-term salaries unless it is for a known “franchise cornerstone” and Chandler probably is a notch below that tier of players.
pointguardslim
August 29th, 2012
12:03 pm
Pointguardslim: Buddy G, now do Josh Smith as a SF and tell us about rebounding, and assists.
Buddy G: You don’t want that story. [aka I don't want to but here goes:]
#1 in rebounding ability/percentage/total
#5 in assist ability/total
LeBron James, SF 6.2
Andre Iguodala, SF 5.5
Paul Pierce, SF 4.5
Josh Smith, SF 3.9
Kevin Durant, SF 3.5
Ken Strickland
August 29th, 2012
12:12 pm
I did a bit of research on the starting Eastern Conference centers and discovered that based on overall production only ABynum is rated higher than Horford and only GMonroe is rated equal to him.
DOC-I believe that instead of trying to get rid of what we need most, we need to try and add to it. I also believe that our abundance of backcourt players and shooters will allow Ferry to make a trade or 2 for what we need to balance out our roster. There won’t be any movement by us until after the players we acquired in the 2 trades will be eligible to be included in trades.
I just don’t see us going into the season with an accumulation of LWilliams, JTeague, DHarris, AMorrow, JJenkins, JAnderson, DStephenson, and potentially KKorver, making up our backcourt. Expiring contracts, plus a possible trade exception or 2nd rd pick, should get us an acceptable SF.
vava74
August 29th, 2012
12:24 pm
Astro Joe
August 29th, 2012
11:55 am:
“doc, sorry, i was mostly interested in the Chandler banter, as i like his game (and contract).”
I am relieved to know that under your eyes Chandler is not an under-developed and underutilized house pet in the form of a three legged rat !!!
Stephen
August 29th, 2012
12:28 pm
I wonder if Bob Weiss will bring back the slogan he ran when he was the Hawks coach. Lets run one!