Atlanta Hawks: Joe Johnson’s Atlanta house on the market for $4.7 million
Will Joe throw in the car? (Photo: estately.com)
Former Hawks guard Joe Johnson is like many of the rest of us: relocating for his job and looking to sell his crib. Most of us aren’t putting our house on the market for $4.7 million, but still.
The listing at estately.com notes J.J.’s “grand estate” includes eight bedrooms and eight full baths among its 13,822 square feet. There’s a weight room, a recording studio, and a basement spa that appears to include a salon with a barber’s chair (helping to explain why J.J.’s waves always were so tight).
Personally, I would never buy a place with a weak Walk Score (at least it’s ITP, though). Then again, if I could afford this mansion, someone else would run my errands and I’m pretty sure I’d have a few friends willing to move in visit every once in a while.
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Ken Strickland
August 16th, 2012
10:01 pm
STEVEN ASS SMITH-I’ll bet you’d love to eliminate Davenpoop, Sautee, Grandad, Slim, Pointguardslim, myself, etc. That way you can continue with your ANAL MINDED BS without being made to look like the uninformed moron that you’ve consistently proven yourself to be.
Ra'mon
August 16th, 2012
10:02 pm
G’D, AJ, Sautee, and O’B, its August, lol. I’m going to have quite a few trade ideas. And majority of them will be some that I don’t endorse, but like to discuss the possibilities. I’m curious to know what caliber of player would you guys trade Josh or Al for.
AJ, Josh is basically extended and committed to the franchise. He just won’t sign the extension this season, because if he waits he’ll be eligible for an extra year, and millions of dollars more.
steven a smith
August 16th, 2012
10:29 pm
Can we say “Anger Management Boys and Girls?” Perhaps KEN STRICKLAND went to the Mel Gibson School of Public Relations!!!
steven a smith
August 16th, 2012
10:32 pm
KEN STRICKLAND, Are you having a relationship with Al Horford? If you are, that’s OK. The President of the United States is “OK” with it…
O'Brien
August 16th, 2012
10:47 pm
Ra’mon,
AJ, Josh is basically extended and committed to the franchise..
Cleveland thought Boozer was committed to the franchise too, so they opted out of a cheap deal thinking he would sign an extension. Instead, he signed with Utah.
I’m with AJ. Let Al play the season out, and hopefully increase his trade value, especially since he should get more FGA. Next offseason, AFTER Josh resigns, then I would explore trade options for Al.
random
August 16th, 2012
10:58 pm
First preseason game vs the heat on October 7th
Now News
August 16th, 2012
11:03 pm
The hawks have decided to allow Al horford to lead them to the lottery
Now News
August 16th, 2012
11:05 pm
Ken is just trying to see how stupid he can sound
Now News
August 16th, 2012
11:07 pm
We wont get much for Al… We tried to trade him 3 time this summer and no taker. Hes a 6′10″ version of Marvin. Orlando didnt want his sorry as and hes from Florida. .
Now News
August 16th, 2012
11:10 pm
Hell we even offered teague and a draft pick to go will Al to orlando and the magic said Hell naw, yall aint dumping yall project s hit over here.
D Ferry
August 16th, 2012
11:13 pm
steven a smith = Now News = Ts – As!hole
Rubuen
August 16th, 2012
11:13 pm
We would be better to amnesty Al and save his 12,000,000.000. Zaza and Ivan can do the same job for less. They proved that last year and we played better without Al
Now News
August 16th, 2012
11:16 pm
Steven Looks lake the majority of us realize that Al is not going to help this team and is at best a roll player. so the loud and few Al fans want to roll it all up into one person. The reality is there will be fewer fans in the stands because we no we are not going any where with Al as the center or power forward.
Ken Strickland
August 16th, 2012
11:19 pm
Im tried and a anal minded moron you as holes stop all this hate on teague and Al. They just need 4-5 more years and they will be stars you wait and see Stars i say.
you anal minded morons
You better listen to me Danny Ferry.
Ken Strickland
August 16th, 2012
11:22 pm
If Danny Ferry doesnt listen to me hes an ANAL MINDED MORON
Grandad
August 16th, 2012
11:40 pm
You guys stay on me all the time but Id did not get caught. Sandukiy is now in the penitentiary and a free man. Although Jerry and I were friend, and kind of hung around together there is no proof that I did anything wrong. Did any body see me? Anybody got any evidence?
Im sorry Sandusky was caught, but hey. hes ok where hes at.
Grandad
August 17th, 2012
12:09 am
Ditch~Weed
I look forward to the day we meet.
Perhaps this yr. @ a game.
Grandad
August 17th, 2012
12:11 am
Ra`mon
I am still hoping for a Josh for Gasol trade.
-if not-
Then; Josh for Really Big Al Jefferson.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 17th, 2012
12:52 am
Al Horford is like Tim Duncan compared to Andrea Garbagenani. Easy to put up big points per game numbers playing on an irrelevant perennial lottery team.
Najeh Davenpoop
August 17th, 2012
12:54 am
“Al Horford is the Matt Ryan of the NBA.”
This is a pretty fair comparison. Both are good players and good teammates who don’t have the elite talent necessary to carry a team. The difference, though, is that all positions are roughly of equal importance in basketball, whereas quarterback is far and away the most important position in football. Al doesn’t have to carry the Hawks if they want to win a championship. Matt Ryan has to carry the Falcons if they want to win a Super Bowl.
Ra'mon
August 17th, 2012
1:24 am
G’D, you realize a deal of Josh for Gasol virtually takes away Ferry’s ability to sign a max level free agent. Also, even with the ability to add a CP3 with Al as the third fiddle to CP3 and Gasol, Al is still the worse third option of each of the contenders’ ‘Big Three’ in the East (Miami, Boston, Philly, New York). And in play off basketball, Gasol is the worst number two option out of the last two teams to win the East with a ‘Big Three’ (Miami and Boston). I’ll admit, CP3, Harden, Josh, and Al beats any team in the east in a 7 games series. But CP3, Gasol, and Al doesn’t make it to the ECF in my opinion.
Grandad
August 17th, 2012
2:50 am
Ra`mon
No, I`m not aware of that.
As a matter of fact;
my plan is to sign both Chris Paul & Al Jefferson,
-[provided we trade Josh for Gasol]-
then play a front-line of Big Al – Pau Gasol – and Really Big Al Jefferson.
Horford @ the [3]
PG @ the [4]
RBA @ the [5]
Re-sign Zaza as the back-up
Hire D`Antoni as *[Head Coach] to Coach `em up;
also hire Tim Grgurich as Defensive coordinator / Associate HC
to install the Amoeba Defense.
Sure, we will spend some _$_;
but you think Josh won`t cost money ?
Now put that line-up – (with our shooters) – up against:
Miami / LAL / NYK ===> Brang `em on !
Najeh Davenpoop
August 17th, 2012
5:18 am
Horford guarding LeBron and Carmelo for an entire game? LOL
Ken Strickland
August 17th, 2012
6:45 am
The truth really hurts doesn’t it STEVEN ASS SMITH. Everyone can tell by the gross ignorance and immaturity of your posts, especially your most recent under my name. Are you sure you’re old enough to be posting on these sites? I ask because your childish temperment and reaction to being presented with facts, and the almost total absence of common sense in the way you try to think and present yourself, certainly leads one to believe you’re nothing more than an attention seeking adolesent.
If you have any parents, or anyone that gives a damn about you, please ask them to get you some help. Because if you’re as dense when it comes to everything else as you are when it comes to basketball, you’re going to have a miserable life ahead of you. In the meantime, you can continue to use my name to post your ANAL MINDED BS if it helps get you through the day. I understand that kindness and sympathy are the best tools for emotionally and mentally challenged individuals like you. Good luck.
Ra'mon
August 17th, 2012
8:47 am
G’D, Gasol, Jefferson, and CP3 will cost $60 million dollars a season alone. You add in Horford, and that goes up to over $72 for just 4 players. Gasol makes close to $8 million more than Josh. I wouldn’t even trade Al for Gasol. Gasol seems to have the same mindset of Odom, that he can only produce as a Laker. Josh has been the subject of rumors for years. Even Al Jefferson has. However, anytime Gasol is a subject of a trade rumor, his production is cut in half. Notice the difference between Gasol in the early rounds of the Olympics. And the Gasol after the Howard trade went down. Gasol doesn’t want to be in Atlanta, so he wouldn’t give Atlanta his all. Gasol would look at coming to Atlanta as being jettisoned. Gasol, with all of his skills (he is the best offensive big man in the game hands down – only Randolph comes close as I don’t count Dirk), he doesn’t have that desire to want to be the man on a playoff team it seems. If Gasol had the fire of even Chris Paul, I’d trade anyone on the Hawks for him, and call it a rip off.
Another question G’D.You’re a student of the game for many years. In the last twenty years, how many times have you seen a player get traded from the Lakers, during their winning years, and not see his production decrease? Or when was the last time you honestly saw the Lakers make a bad trade? So if the Lakers came to you offering Gasol. And the Lakers are only about winning championships, wouldn’t that be a great indication that the 2nd most storied franchise in the NBA don’t think Gasol can help them win a championship as much as the player they’re trading for?
Astro Joe
August 17th, 2012
9:40 am
I was for the Gasol trade previously because I didn’t envision getting cap space prior to the summer of 2014 and figured that he would keep the team afloat until then. But Ferry was able to create that cap space a year earlier, so I wouldn’t trade for Gasol at this point. I still feel he is much better than many around here, but I’m hoping to have a long-term core next summer (through trades, free agency and draft picks).
Ra’mon, if I ran a team, I wouldn’t trust that someone is signed without signing. I think that is a quick and easy way to lose your job… taking someone’s “word on it”. Josh went from at least a good year of wanting out to a few weeks of wanting in, and we’re supposed to trust that nothing will change from here on out? No, thanks.
vava74
August 17th, 2012
9:40 am
Najeh,
“Matt Ryan has to carry the Falcons if they want to win a Super Bowl.”
That would not be the case if the Falcons became a “defense first” type of team since there have been Super Bowl winners with pretty average QBs…
Although the NFL did move into a “pass happy league” mode, so that may be substantially more difficult right now (see Raven’s case).
O'Brien
August 17th, 2012
9:49 am
Ra’mon, AJ,
What if the team struggles this year, and fans get on Josh the whole season? What if Josh and LD get into it? What if Josh is snubbed again for the AS team, and thinks Ferry didn’t promote him enough?
There are too many unknowns (imo) to think Josh is “committed to the franchise” just because he withdrew his trade request going into his contract year. Until he is signed, you never know for sure.
Astro Joe
August 17th, 2012
9:55 am
A lot of news reports about assistant coaches being hired across the league. I hope that LD/Ferry don’t miss out on a quality coach to add to the bench. I wonder if Patrick Ewing will get consideration, since he was let go by the Magic and the Hawks sent Ty Hill (our previous big man coach) packing.
vava74
August 17th, 2012
9:57 am
AJ,
I am with you. There is no sense in getting cap room and clogging it with a very good, but old/expensive player.
O'Brien
August 17th, 2012
9:58 am
Al Jefferson has a better low post game than Al Horford (imo), and may be a better player overall. But he is not a prototypical center either. Also, Jefferson made $15 mil this past year, and will be looking for a raise on his next contract.
So to me, the question becomes is Jefferson at $16 – $18 mil a better investment than Al at $12 mil? I’m not so sure, because the $4 – $6 mil saved can add another solid bench player.
Its the same argument that Ra’mon has for trading Al for Zaza and another solid bench piece. Is Al at $12 mil a better investment than Zaza ($6.5 mil estimated on his next contract) and another solid bench player ($4 – $5 mil). I’m not so sure of that either.
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
9:59 am
Matt Ryan’s pocket presence is his “cryptonite”. The only way he partakes is a Superbowl is with a Clip board…..
We’ve seen this b4. So has Mr Blank..
vava74
August 17th, 2012
10:00 am
AJ,
Ewing was NOT a smart bball player back in his days so I don’t see the infatuation people have on his highly unknown coaching skills.
If he could not get into Howard’s mind and made him improve on any of his deficiencies, why people think he is any good?
He was a very good player but he appears to have flunked in several interviews around the league for an HC job so I think that is a major red flag for me.
Sautee
August 17th, 2012
10:07 am
So, slim did you decide to stop being Bounce?
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:16 am
Goodmorning Sir?
So Satuee, could you see your favorite Hawk playing SF in All NBA?
Imagine him guarding Paul Pierce…. Oh the Hu
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:19 am
AJ,
“Ewing was NOT a smart bball player back in his days so I don’t see the infatuation people have on his highly unknown coaching skills.
If he could not get into Howard’s mind and made him improve on any of his deficiencies, why people think he is any good?” -Vava- The Nets number #1 undercover Fan…
-LOL-
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:21 am
Al at the 3. He’d have the 2 fouls with 6mins left in the 1st Quarter..
Larry’s rules= 2 fouls, you must have a seat…
Astro Joe
August 17th, 2012
10:28 am
vava, Ewing has flunked head coaching interviews, but that’s not why we would hire him. I’d also ask, how many former centers are head coaches? IMO, there is a bias that centers are not smart. It seems like folk believe that they are capable based on the blessing of size alone. Howard did get better in the half court… he went from a single “catch and dunk” move to at least having some low post moves (but nothing in the vicinity of Bynum). But all things are relative. After having Alton Lister and Ty Hill as big man coaches, I tend to believe that Ewing might be a fairly big improvement.
OB, while I’m sure that every player wants a raise, I’m not sure that every player will demand a raise. Al Jefferson is not a max player and I’d be surprised if he gets a starting salary over $15M. He is the low-post star of an ensemble cast, but by no means is he a playoff team’s superstar. He would best fit with a team that had an equivalent (or better) wing player. If I were Ferry, a 4 year/$60M contract would be all I would offer for that guy (and even that may be a stretch).
Here’s a trivia question, how many guys who entered the HOF as players are assistant coaches? Off the top of my head, I can only think of Ewing & McAdoo (if Ewing isn’t in yet, he will be there soon enough). vava, that is another reason why Ewing gets more publicity than the average clipboard jockey, because we’re not used to seeing HOF players try and work their way up the coaching ladder.
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:33 am
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Ra’mon
August 17th, 2012
8:47 am
“G’D, Gasol, Jefferson, and CP3 will cost $60 million dollars a season alone. You add in Horford, and that goes up to over $72 for just 4 players. Gasol makes close to $8 million more than Josh. I wouldn’t even trade Al for Gasol. Gasol seems to have the same mindset of Odom, that he can only produce as a Laker. Josh has been the subject of rumors for years. Even Al Jefferson has. However, anytime Gasol is a subject of a trade rumor, his production is cut in half. Notice the difference between Gasol in the early rounds of the Olympics. And the Gasol after the Howard trade went down. Gasol doesn’t want to be in Atlanta, so he wouldn’t give Atlanta his all. Gasol would look at coming to Atlanta as being jettisoned. Gasol, with all of his skills (he is the best offensive big man in the game hands down – only Randolph comes close as I don’t count Dirk), he doesn’t have that desire to want to be the man on a playoff team it seems. If Gasol had the fire of even Chris Paul, I’d trade anyone on the Hawks for him, and call it a rip off.” -Ramon-
Excellent points Ra’mon..Danny will not trade Josh for that Gasol.
Ultimately Gasol and Al would not take them to the Finals. Heck they could not take this team to their 1st ECF appearance as a matter of opinion…..Just too soft up the middle..
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:38 am
Contrary to one life long Net Fans opinion, Ewing helped D12 quite a bit with his offensive game. D12 even admitted to that point in several interviews early on in his career…
vava74
August 17th, 2012
10:46 am
Slimjr,
You are a pathetic NY Knicks fan posing as a Hawks fan.
How come a criticism of Ewing which was a very good but highly overrated (due to NY media) player makes me a Nets’ fan block head?
I could not care less about NYK or the BRN.
I am strickly a Hawks fan, unlike you.
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:47 am
” Ewing was enshrined in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 2008, he went in Riley. And in a twist of irony, his longtime rival, Olajuwon, was one of the other marquee names of that Hall of Fame class.” -NBA warrior-
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:49 am
You get a pass “Grumpy Ole Man”….
Carry on…
vava74
August 17th, 2012
10:50 am
AJ,
Howards improvement in the post was exclusively due to his workouts with Olajuwon.
Ewing was strictly a face up C who got 70% of his points from jumpshots, 20% from dunks and about 10% from his hook shot.
His post moves were… basic to say the least.
In reality, Ewing’s game was little more than Horford’s, simply better due to the correct size to play the C position (both height and reach), enabling him to jump shoot over people, block more shots and rebound a tad better than Horford.
vava74
August 17th, 2012
10:51 am
Herb Williams is 10 times a more qualified coach than Ewing.
Slimjr
August 17th, 2012
10:59 am
Net Fans rise up! Wow….
Astro Joe
August 17th, 2012
11:01 am
vava, I just read an article that said that most players epdn 4 days with Hakeem. Excuse me if I have a hard time believing that players can master low post moves after only 4 days of coaching. Ewing had a very nice post game during his prime… once his knees began to give him problems, he became more of a jump shooter. That’s the way we remember him because that is how he played in his last 3+ years. But before that, he had the nice hook shot, an unblockable turn-around jumper and several drop step moves as well. Hawks have done worse (in terms of hiring a big man coach) than bringing in a HOF big man with assistant coaching experience.
Astro Joe
August 17th, 2012
11:04 am
vava, isn’t Herb Williams on Woody’s staff? I was referencing available assistants, if we’re talking about stealing coaches from current staff’s, that is a whole different subject.
KevinM
August 17th, 2012
11:17 am
Talking big men, I truly don’t understand why Kareem doesn’t get serious interest. IMO, he and Russell are the 2 guys who should be heavily involved in the NBA.
Before Woody, I wanted Kareem to come here and right the ship. I still think he has a lot to offer. I think he is the reason why Bynum is as good as he is.
Me being a big man fan first and foremost, I still don’t understand why these guys don’t get more opportunities. Ewing has been in Orlando forever and they had great success. Ewing has put the time in to get more consideration, but he will now have to take a lateral move to stay involved with the league.
LD is going to survive this season and unless he gets a MY deal, there is no reason to keep bringing him back. Could Kareem or Ewing come in today and duplicate what LD has done? Easily IMO.
joesmom
August 17th, 2012
11:33 am
Mikhail Prokhorov will buy it for him if need be.