Atlanta Hawks: Danny Ferry covets wing player but no hurry to add one

Yes, Hawks GM Danny Ferry is considering using the final open roster spot (assuming Ivan Johnson eventually signs his qualifying offer) to add a small forward.

“I would say probably a wing that can compete defensively at a high level would be a good thing to be able to add at some point,” Ferry said.

Ferry taking his time with 15th roster spot. (Photo: Johnny Crawford/AJC)

Ferry taking his time with 15th roster spot. (Photo: Johnny Crawford/AJC)

But, no, that doesn’t mean he’s in a hurry to acquire such a player.

“That may happen,” Ferry said. “How that happens, I can’t sit here and tell you. Could it be someone we sign? Could it be a trade at some point and, if so, when could that be? Trades happen in their own time. We have until February to do it.”

And, Ferry said, if the Hawks do sign a free-agent wing, it’s likely the player would have to accept a non-guaranteed contract.

“There is a good chance we will carry 15,” he said. “But preferably that 15th person will be on a ‘make good’ situation that allows us the flexibility needed in case injuries happen and so on. Being locked into 15 [guaranteed contracts] is generally not ideal.”

Players with non-guaranteed deals are easier to include in trades because the team that acquires them can release them to save money. All players contracts become guaranteed on Jan. 10.

Ferry presumably is waiting to see who he can get through a trade or on a non-guaranteed deal because the wing players still on the market aren’t enticing enough to offer a guaranteed contract now. The wing also could come from among those on Atlanta’s summer roster, though Ferry said he and his staff still are deciding which free agents to invite to veterans’ camp.

The next key date for the Hawks is Sept. 11. That’s when the players acquired in the Joe Johnson trade and Devin Harris will be eligible to be used in trades that aggregate their salaries under CBA rules (60 days after they were acquired).

For now, the Hawks will stick with Kyle Korver as the closest thing to a true wing. But, considering Ferry’s flurry of transactions in his short time with the Hawks, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him make a trade this summer or early in the season to reconfigure Atlanta’s unbalanced roster.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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random

August 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

The wait continues

Agent Orange

August 10th, 2012
3:26 pm

Lakers got Dwight. And Julio Jones will score 25 touchdowns this year.

terrell

August 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

Bynum and Doug Collins wont work. Please! I give it a couple of practices. lol

hawksfancents95

August 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

2012-2013 LAL
nash- 2x MVP/8x All-Star/7x All NBA
brynt- 5x NBA Champion & 2x Finals MVP/14x All-Star/14x All-NBA
world peace- 1 NBA Champ/1 All-Star/1 All-NBA/4x All-NBA defense
gasol- 2x NBA Champ/3x All-NBA/3x All-Star/7x European POY
howard- 3x NBA defensive POY/6x All-NBA/6x All-Star

ummm i have them as my favorites. Kobe is still their leader and will keep it all moving, nash will manage the game, MWP will guard Durant/LeBron, Pau will provide inside game,Dwight will be defensive POY with 13+ rbs and 3blks and will control the paint.
with some minute eaters off the bench they will beat MIA in 7 game series.

terrell

August 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

Stick with Kyle Korver? Hell to the naw! Go get Wilson Chandler, Delfino, Matt Barnes, or some damn body.

terrell

August 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

I see someone is still jerking off to a new Lakers poster. lol

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

FTPB, Melvin, some team (I think Phoenix) paid Hedo 2X his previous salary so he left. I don;t think it was a trade.

My guess is that the number of teams that have made it to the Finals with a leading socrer who averaged less than 22/game can be counted on one hand. An aberration. And the ones who have probably had 2-3 guys who averaged 15+. or said differently, it was a classic “ensemble cast” and not a superstar-led team.

Finally, Howard’s salary during the 2008-09 season when they made the Finals? ~$14M. You can’t pay that guy $20M and expect him to put a team on his big ole shoulders and get them into the Finals. he is a mega-role player. And a guy incapable of being on the floor at the end of late and meaningful games.

But it is all moot, he is a Laker and gets to sit in the post and wait for Nash or Kobe to get him the ball. When the game is on the line, he can grab a towel and wave it frantically from the bench. He is perfectly suited for his new role.

MsDee

August 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

MC,

Are u able to get in touch with Josh and see what he is thinking concerning his buddy Dwight and how it looks this season him being a free agent and all?

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
3:36 pm

If they are looking at players who will be willing to accept a non-guaranteed contract, then we’re talking about something less than a Dollar General type player. Now, we’re talking about the second-hand stores.

Welcome to the Hawks, Adam Morrison!

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
3:40 pm

My bad, he did say “compete defensively”. So let me back away from the Morrison comment.

Welcome to the Atlanta Hawks, Devean George!

northcyde

August 10th, 2012
3:42 pm

LOL @ Astro. I was thinking of the same player

SMH

As much as people hated Marvin around here, they may be longing for him come Christmas.

O'Brien

August 10th, 2012
3:42 pm

FTPB,

Ken S,

Now if they feel we can’t convince Josh to resign, how in the hell did they think we’d be able to convince Dwight to resign?.

Because Dwight would have gotten a chance to play with Josh Smith, one of his best friends, and someone who Dwight had mentioned to Orlando as somebody he would play with. And Josh Smith would have gotten a chance to play with Dwight. Now that we don’t have Dwight, it’s all moot.

KevinM,

Denver went through a huge rash of injuries last year….

True. But part of that was probably due to the condensed schedule.

Just Joe

August 10th, 2012
3:45 pm

“I would say probably a wing that can compete defensively at a high level would be a good thing to be able to add at some point.”

I still think Corey Brewer from Denver would be an ideal trade target. $3.5M expiring contract. Plays the transition game well.

Danny, see if Denver will throw in Mozgov or Koufas while you’re at it.

Melvin

August 10th, 2012
3:45 pm

“But it is all moot, he is a Laker and gets to sit in the post and wait for Nash or Kobe to get him the ball. When the game is on the line, he can grab a towel and wave it frantically from the bench. He is perfectly suited for his new role” – Astro

I would love to have him in that role for the Hawks.

However, you are so concern about the end of the game but what about the first 45-47 mins? At least this team would be in a position to win during the last two mins of the game. That is improvement and I would welcome that to the Hawks.

Mike is Back

August 10th, 2012
3:46 pm

MC, I agree with Danny…I suspect Danny will make some type of move to help shore up the SF spot before the season starts…GLAD THE DIVA saga is over…with all the multiple transactions taking place…invariably there will be some fallout from some of these mega trades…I looks for Danny to pounds when the opportunity is right.

DwightZilla can finally smile.lol

O'Brien

August 10th, 2012
3:47 pm

northcyde,

Nobody is going to be longing for Marvin Williams and his $7.5 mil underachieving self. I think most Hawks fans will come to accept the fact that this is a step back year for the Hawks.

The goal will be to go into next off-season with a ton of cap space, a good draft pick from us having a bad season, and Houston’s draft pick.

One step back this offseason, 2-3 steps next off-season.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
3:50 pm

Melvin, the Hawks have owned Dwight’s Magic. Simply defend the wing players and let him score 40 points and his team loses.

Time to move on.

Jordan Williams will wave the towel for less than $1M.

O'Brien

August 10th, 2012
3:50 pm

* should read 2-3 steps forward next offseason.

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
3:59 pm

I think Morrow may be the odd man out to be traded. Ferry seems to be fund of Harris. And with L. Williams and Jenkins guys that he acquired, I think Morrow would be the one guy to get traded for a true SF. And I could see a team like Denver wanting Morrow’s shooting for one of their wing players.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:00 pm

And Melvin, my preoccupation with the last few minutes of tight and meaningful games is because of all of the comments I’ve read on this blog about the importance of the playoffs (where games are usually close) and the importance of the highest paid player being the clutch performer late in games. That has been a fairly common theme in these parts… it wasn’t going to get better with a $20M+ franchise player who MUST sit on the bench in the last 2 minutes of a tightly contested and important ball game. Hard to be clutch when you’re waving that towel.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:02 pm

Ra’mon, I’m not a big fan of Brewer, but Morrow for Brewer isn’t an awful idea. It would not likely change the team’s fortunes, but it could open up time for Jenkins to get some run.

KevinM

August 10th, 2012
4:09 pm

I am convinced we’re not done in determining if we are going to compete this year. Teams are solidifying their rosters and there are a few opps for Danny to go get a more balanced approach.
AJ, that Feb comments speaks about how Danny is looking at the upcoming season.

“Memphis had enough forsight to get Marc Gasol in the deal, and used their cap space to get a very good, but malcontent Zach Randolph in the mix. Combined with the decent young players they already had, Memphis quickly returned to a playoff ( but not championship ) level team.”

Memphis played better without Rudy Gay when they made it to the semifinals and Game 7 2 years ago. Gay did not help their cause last year with a team that lost Randolph for a big amount of time. They are going to give it another run with their core before making big changes.

“terrell

August 10th, 2012
3:30 pm
Stick with Kyle Korver? Hell to the naw! Go get Wilson Chandler, Delfino, Matt Barnes, or some damn body.”

There is no way we go with Korver at the 3. I’m still trying to figure out how Korver fits in the rotation. I don’t think we gained much by bringing him in. I would have rather had JLucas or CJWatson to fill out a bench slot.

“As much as people hated Marvin around here, they may be longing for him come Christmas.”

So there is someone who will say we sure could have used Marvin? I doubt it outside of his family. The guy who posted all our wasted lottery picks just nailed down the reason we are where we are after 44 seasons. People trying to justify Chills, Shellhead, Marvin, etc…
You can’t miss that many times and be a contender. You end up hiring a Sund who has no idea after 30+ years in this being his day job.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:12 pm

Another SF option (I’m being more serious now) is Jamario Moon. I’m pretty sure that Ferry “discovered” him during his time as the Cavs GM. He would likely take a non-guaranteed contract. I don’t recall him being considered a good defender, though.

Devin Ebanks is definitely my preferred choice and was used (sparingly) to help defend SFs in his short time with the Lakers. But I doubt that he would settle for a non-guaranteed contract.

Just Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:26 pm

Before anyone mentions Pape Sy on a non-guaranteed deal, his contract in France requires him to sign a guaranteed deal in the NBA in order to get out of his obligation.

Fundamentals

August 10th, 2012
4:28 pm

Dwight not coming is not the end of the world. Danny has some nice expiring deals, cap flexibility and the balls to pull the trigger. He’s showing us a new side for our organization by making player development a priority. I don’t see us taking steps back per se, it’s whether or not he can get a few minor tweaks done in time for the team to gel. Just making the playoffs will match our status quo since we’ve never really competed once we got there.

Raising the bar won’t be that hard. I don’t see any way we won’t compete well this year. Smoove is in a contract year, one year after relishing the limelight. Teague and Horford are in make it or break it time since their next big deals are on the horizon. We’re actually putting some value on young talent and demanding something from them. I see it as only positives.

I’m looking forward to the season, regardless of whether we take two steps back to jump three forward. At least the trade deadlies, drafts and such will finally be exciting again. Same ole, same ole sucked.

So much for JeJe’s Summer of Sameness. Guess he shamed ASG into doing something! God Bless him for that. THANK YOU JEJE!

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
4:32 pm

AJ, I think the best thing for the Hawks would be to find a way to start Jenkins. If this season is a throw away season, then getting Jenkins as much playing time would be a great thing. Of course with this being a suicide season for LD, I doubt that happens.

Also keep in mind, Ferry may trade someone like Morrow for a trade exception, giving him the cap space to add someone like Ebanks.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:33 pm

Kevin, Ferry’s February comment kind of makes you think that he doesn’t have a tremendous sense of urgency about this specific season, huh?

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
4:36 pm

Delfino is actually looking pretty good right now. If only he was 2 inches taller.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:39 pm

Ra’mon, he could use Willie Green’s trade exception to grab Ebanks. But it sounds like Ferry doesn’t want to guarantee a contract… even if he has the ability to do so. Sounds like he wants to be able to make a 1 for 2 trade during the season… without having to pay off a fully guaranteed contract to free up a roster spot.

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
4:39 pm

AJ, I think Ferry’s February’s comment, makes you feel that he is sending that as a message to fellow GM’s, that he will not over pay for a wing.

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
4:42 pm

AJ, that’s why I said, if Ferry trades a guaranteed contract on this team, he will be able to replace it with another guaranteed contract, while only having 14 players on the roster still.

Honestly though, I would be interested in signing Greg Oden to a 2 year deal for $8 million, with the 2nd year not guaranteed.

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
4:44 pm

LAL just signed Meeks.

Astro Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:53 pm

Yes, Hawks GM Danny Ferry is considering using the final open roster spot (assuming Ivan Johnson eventually signs his qualifying offer) to add a small forward.

OK, I’m confused (yes, it happens often). Don’t we only have 13 players signed to guaranteed contracts (if Ivan accepts his QO)?

BIGS – Horford, Josh, Zaza, Ivan, Petro, Jordan Williams
WINGS – Lou, Jenkins, Morrow, Korver, Stevenson
PGs – Teague, Harris

Farmar was bought-out and so his roster spot is free. Mike Scott (to my knowledge) has not signed a guaranteed contract. Heaven help us if Pape Sy has a guaranteed deal.

Who am I missing? Shouldn’t we have room to add a guaranteed contract in slot 14 (I think that is what Ra’mon was referencing)?

Buddy Grizzard

August 10th, 2012
4:55 pm

“I give it a couple of practices.”

Bynum: “Practice? We’re talking about practice?”

Melvin

August 10th, 2012
4:58 pm

Astro,

Remember whIch playoff series set the NBA record for the largest margin of defeat (or whatever they call it). Being the owner of that distinguish record, I wouldn’t dare say this team owned another team….

Rick

August 10th, 2012
5:01 pm

I just got signed to play the SF! 6 feet turning 42 in September, good defender on the wing and I am playing on the vet minimum! Heheheheheheheh. Really I dont know what we are going to do but I am really liking these consistent updates!

KevinM

August 10th, 2012
5:03 pm

Ramon, I never thought they would get Meeks after all the moves today….must have been the late move to dump McRoberts.
They are stacking the deck against the West to give Brown every option possible.

“Just Joe

August 10th, 2012
4:26 pm
Before anyone mentions Pape Sy on a non-guaranteed deal, his contract in France requires him to sign a guaranteed deal in the NBA in order to get out of his obligation.”

JJ, I just can’t see where Sy has earned any opp to come to the big boys camp. Put Mike Scott in that list as well. I just didn’t see much from either. I’m for saving the cash and waiting on the other camps to remove a player or 2.

Jenkins should be the lone survivor of our Vegas SL.

Teague / Harris
Lou / Korver / Morrow / Jenkins
Josh / Stevenson
Al / Ivan / Jordan Williams?
Zaza / Petro

anphill2

August 10th, 2012
5:08 pm

GM of the year? Ferry or Kupchak?

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
5:10 pm

AJ, you’re correct. I guess they’re assuming that Mike Scott will be signed to a contract already.

Ra'mon

August 10th, 2012
5:12 pm

If Mike Brown doesn’t make it out of the west this season, he is going to be gone. And Mike Dantoni, may would be the coach to replace him.

Michael Cunningham

August 10th, 2012
5:18 pm

@MsDee: “MC, Are u able to get in touch with Josh and see what he is thinking concerning his buddy Dwight and how it looks this season him being a free agent and all?”

my feeling is that Josh is focused on getting more touches with the Hawks and having a good contract year. last I checked, he has not talked to Dwight about playing on the same team here or elsewhere.

Rod from College Park

August 10th, 2012
5:27 pm

“Why didn’t his teammates in the seasons since then have career years?”

Because JJ Redick and a two year older Turk were not as good as Lewis, Courtney Lee, Pietrus, Rafer Alston and Rashard Lewis.

cb

August 10th, 2012
5:27 pm

I know D12 was a pipe dream to come here, but with him probably going to sign an extension in LA, what superstar do we have a shot at bringing here. You all remember watching that team coached by Terry Stotts. Its no fun watching cap space play basketball

ryan

August 10th, 2012
5:31 pm

I have to give Ferry credit he made an effort to get Howard it was not his fault the Orlando GM just did not want him the division any chance at Tyreke Evans maybe there a shot at CP3 .

Just Joe

August 10th, 2012
5:46 pm

KevinM…..I see some value in Mike Scott. He got better as Summer League went along.

His first 3 games, 10 of 33 from the field, 50% from the free throw line, and 9 turnovers.

His last 2 games, 50% from the field, 11 of 13 from the free throw line, and 3 turnovers.

His rebounding was consistent through all 5 games (6-8 each game).

I was most impressed with how aggressive he was. No reason not to bring him to camp.

Jay

August 10th, 2012
5:50 pm

Should have taken part in the Howard trade to get Igoudala. He would have fit this roster perfectly.

The Truth

August 10th, 2012
6:02 pm

Need the Full Q&A

“I would say probably a wing that can compete defensively at a high level would be a good thing to be able to add at some point,” Ferry said.

“That may happen,” Ferry said. “How that happens, I can’t sit here and tell you. Could it be someone we sign? Could it be a trade at some point and, if so, when could that be? Trades happen in their own time. We have until February to do it.”

“Ferry said, if the Hawks do sign a free-agent wing, it’s likely the player would have to accept a non-guaranteed contract.”

The problem with Danny above quoted answers, we really don’t know exactly what the questions to these answers. MC has framed this blog story off his comments with none of the questions connected to them. That’s important because it could put Danny’s quotes out of context while bloggers spin their wheels trying to interpret what he meant.

Even in the Blog title: “Atlanta Hawks: Danny Ferry covets wing player but no hurry to add one”

Could suggest to some that Danny exactly made this quote but it appears he didn’t. Instead the title seems to be MC’s impression from the briefing. When the link to this story appears in sports outlets such as hoophypes and other others, it might appear that way.

KevinM

August 10th, 2012
6:12 pm

Does today’s D12 deal remind you of the JJ trade? Our problem IMO was much worse trying to find anyone to take away an $80M commitment.

They essentially get very little for what they gave up. Future late draft picks as late as 2017 might get them a role player going forward.

What a mess of a roster now in Orlando.

KevinM

August 10th, 2012
6:16 pm

With all of us clamoring for a C all these years, we haven’t made inroads on acquiring one at this stage.
Danny talking about considering a defensive wing, but that doesn’t address the 5. Is he satisfied for the time being?

What A Mess!!!!

August 10th, 2012
6:23 pm

In no hurry Huh???? I bet your azz will be in a hurry to cash your paycheck. Ferry is a joke along with these jokes for owners. Ferry for GM of the year. Ferry is great. Ferry this Ferry that. All of it is just one big Joke!!! All of the teams ” In A Hurry” have made great moves to get into position to have a good season and the Hawks just flushed. Then the guy in charge says there is no hurry we can wait till Feb. OMG!!!