Atlanta Hawks: Hawks trade Willie Green for rights to Greek center Schortsanitis

UGA

July 30th, 2012
6:24 pm

Question: Could the Hawks use this exception and a player or something in a sign-n-trade with the Bucks for Delfino? Just an example. Thanks

i_am_soulstar

July 30th, 2012
6:25 pm

Dan the man strikes again. Welcome back MC

ntrigue

July 30th, 2012
6:33 pm

Good move!

Jeff

July 30th, 2012
6:35 pm

MC – Hope Vacation was nice !!! What do you see as potential additional moves with this roster/if any?
Thanks

Jeff

July 30th, 2012
6:40 pm

Any chance he can come to the Hawks? he could be a beast. Check this guy out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f_x9obHeOg

GT Alum

July 30th, 2012
6:41 pm

Given the Hawks’ newfound financial flexibility, I assume this is another trade asset. I love how active Ferry has been so far. He’s stockpiling assets for the future while trying to build a competitive team now.

PEDRO EL GITANO

July 30th, 2012
6:47 pm

Por favor intenten convencer a Sofo para que juegue con nosotros este mismo año!!!en Europa es determinante.Si esta opción falla traigamos a Chris Andersen.

BC

July 30th, 2012
6:55 pm

Is there any chance that “Shortsanitis” will ever see a NBA regular season roster? Ours or any other team?

No Free Throws

July 30th, 2012
6:55 pm

Oh, come on…. That name looks like something that a chimp would type on an iPad. I wonder how many Greeks could spell “Sofoklis Schortsanitis”. Too bad he’s not expected to play for the Hawks — we could use a 345-lb center (assuming he could actually PLAY the game)…!!!

Mo Better Blue

July 30th, 2012
7:00 pm

” Sofklis Schortsantis ” sounds like a bad acne disease or foot fungus or something…i’m just saying…Anyhow, DAN THE MAN delivers yet again with another base hit…..hopefully this will lead to a GRAND SLAM trade in the future…..GO DAN !!

Knowledge

July 30th, 2012
7:18 pm

Homework y’all. This is the big man that destroyed the US in 09. He is still only 27. You should hope he comes over here.

Luke Cage

July 30th, 2012
7:20 pm

SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!

Nique

July 30th, 2012
7:23 pm

Hey MC,

What are the Hawks thinking at SF, I wish they would have gone after Brewer or Kirolinko. Korver’s not a starter, so any news or buzz around this? Any interest in Josh Howard?

Luke Cage

July 30th, 2012
7:23 pm

Still would like to see another Defensive minded SF.

tjhook

July 30th, 2012
7:25 pm

can’t be mad at height even if it is the likes of Priest Lauderdale. Have to give it the once over. But the goal (in my mind) is to bring in Al thornton. Saw on his twiter page that he traveled to Phoenix. I hope that is not his team of choice. Stay in state, buddy. Summary: Yes, I think Thornton has great upside.

Thunder Dan

July 30th, 2012
7:26 pm

a 6′9″ center, huh? that means a short guy that cannot dribble or shoot – just what the HAWKS need. I’m sure this trade was more about the trade exception than the greek god though.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 30th, 2012
7:35 pm

MC, how much trade value does Schortsanitis have in your opinion?

NiquedaFreak

July 30th, 2012
7:37 pm

I am w/ tjhook.. lets get thorton .. ferry is doing well so far..

Najeh Davenpoop

July 30th, 2012
7:41 pm

In a subsequent trade, I mean.

Hawks_Tar Heel

July 30th, 2012
7:44 pm

With all the moves Danny Ferry is making, most intelligent individual should be able to see that he does have a long term plan in place. However, with that said, the plan HAS to include 2 superstars, if not 3, in order to make this Hawks team an annual championship contender. The NBA has turned into a Elite 8 league and if you dont have 2 or more 20+ppg players on your team, you have NO CHANCE at winning a title. Being a life-long Hawks fan, I dont want an ownership group, or GM who is okay with making the playoffs. I want a team, a GM, and an ownership group who feels like its either championship or bust like the Lakers, Celtics, and Bulls teams of old. I love Josh’s will to win, love Al’s heart, but if we are ever going to compete for a title, we need to decide which one to keep, and move forward.

I can’t overstate how huge it would be for the Hawks to get a Dwight Howard, or a CP3, or an Andrew Bynum, when we have foundered with poor attendance and embarrassing TV ratings; symbolized by Ryan Cameron, and everybody else in the gym, begging somebody, anybody, to cheer during regular season games when you can count more of the other team’s jerseys in attendance than Hawks jerseys… or, for that matter, playoff games. This would finally, after 40 years of being an afterthought in this sports market — four decades in which we have yet to make an Eastern Conference finals — establish this city as a place that matters, a Hawks game as a worthwhile endeavor and, perhaps, this franchise as something more than an occasional diversion from college football. We can be Atlanta’s Air Force all over again, but its up to ASG and Danny Ferry to bring this plan into fruition. GO HAWKS!

Wink

July 30th, 2012
7:44 pm

Things have gone quiet again at the old ASG! Hope it’s not business as usual, you know save cash in house and put it in the piggy bank. They are still banking cash and not bringing in what we need SF & C.

Meanwhile, back at the old NBA Free Agent Ranch, we have not gone after any free agent worth anything other than Lou, but we are stock piling guards. Josh & Horford still need help inside.

Hope Korver is not the bargain basement answer for SF or a D Leaguer. Danny has secured his job by dumping & stashing the JJ & Marvin salaries…now Green, plus the trade exemption from last year, the 3 mil we got when we sold a draft pick, and the dumping of our last two years of number 1 draft picks…Crawford & Benson…

What substantial additions have we made recently…Jamal Crawford and Lou William…via the 6th man program…when will the Hawks, Danny address SF & C….the Free Agent pool is bone dry now??????

H4L

July 30th, 2012
7:48 pm

M.C. welcome back, hope your vacation was good and you were missed around here.

Jay

July 30th, 2012
7:49 pm

I didn’t know we could even trade Willie, I thought he was a free agent. In any event, good trade…Willie Green had no future on this guard-heavy roster, and the trade exception is just another piece we can dangle to hopefully get some more talent in here.

falCans

July 30th, 2012
7:57 pm

Ferry strikes again!! @ Wink, ya gotta be patient my guy. Trust he knows, as does evrybody else, that we need a SF

Rick

July 30th, 2012
8:18 pm

I think we will see McGrady back @ SF which is not a bad move I dont think. Any other suggestions?

SuckerFree

July 30th, 2012
8:31 pm

This puts us over the top!!!! Championship caliber

Sautee

July 30th, 2012
8:34 pm

Isn’t it amazing just how little Rick Sund did in 4 years compared to Ferry in 4 weeks.

A Pro-active GM. What a concept.

Jim Robinson

July 30th, 2012
8:38 pm

Yawn. Excuse me. This was, of course, not a trade for the ages, but at least Ferry is doing something to stir up the team and the faithful fans. By the way, did we have an entry in the summer NBA rookie league (Las Vegas)? I saw no coverage in the AJC.

SuckerFree

July 30th, 2012
8:40 pm

LOL @ people thinking this guy is coming to the team….the boy is an out of shape scrub because if he was any good he’d been in the NBA already…he was drafted in 2003.

Danny Ferry, good job getting something for Willie Green since he wasn’t in the plans anyway.

We get a trade exception and some chump we never have to see or pay. BRILLIANCE.

Now bring in a decent SF who can defend and knock down a three/do the intangibles and we’ll be straight.

Drizzy

July 30th, 2012
8:41 pm

Damn, he could be a beast (haha baby Shaq)
Good video find @Jeff

steven a smith

July 30th, 2012
8:46 pm

SuckAFree

July 30th, 2012
8:40 pm

SuckAfree has sight but no vision. Did you get that SUCKA? The general manager is playing “Chess” while you can only handle “checkers”
Does this make sense to you?

Astro Joe

July 30th, 2012
8:49 pm

Dude is a Greek Michael Sweetney. Between his buy-out and his gut-out, his trade value is probably slightly worse than Patrick O’Bryant’s.

Now let’s wait and watch Ferry turn that exception into a decent SF.

Ra'mon

July 30th, 2012
8:49 pm

Ferry is making magic out of nothing. In a deal where he would lose Green anyway because he has no desire to sign him. He ends up getting a trade exception for him, while putting Green in a good situation, which player’s agents remember when dealing with their other clients (players). I’m convinced Ferry has talked to more GMs in this off season than Sund talked to GMs in his entire tenure here.

SuckerFree

July 30th, 2012
8:58 pm

Steven A. Smith…..learn how to read critically.

“Danny Ferry, good job getting something for Willie Green since he wasn’t in the plans anyway.

We get a trade exception and some chump we never have to see or pay. BRILLIANCE.”

yeah there it is boy

Redneck Convert (R--and ;proud of it)

July 30th, 2012
8:59 pm

Well, I’m seeing some up side here. Sure, the guy’s too short to play center and he can’t dribble and run around. But at 345 lbs. he weighs almost as much as the missus. If he ever falls on an opponent after going up for a rebound,. we got ‘em outnumbered 5-4 and we’ll put all our opponents on the IR sooner or later.

Bossmann

July 30th, 2012
9:00 pm

MC, I have been reading some news about the Pistons looking to trade Austin Daye. Could the above move possibly be a prelude to us going after the 6′11 SF? I also read that the Hawks were interested in the Summer League Hotrod Malcolm Thomas. Is there anymore news about their chances of luring him in?

Leon

July 30th, 2012
9:05 pm

I am thinking Josh, Al and ZaZa will be starting at 3,4 and 5 when the season opens. It is looking more and more like Josh will be our Small Forward.

Me

July 30th, 2012
9:06 pm

Wow. Some of you really need to read and understand. The trade exception is for Green. Schortsanitis will notnow or ever play for Atlanta. Ferry will use the Exception in trade. Strictly a money move.

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steven a smith

July 30th, 2012
9:20 pm

Me

July 30th, 2012
9:06 pm

“Wow” you are one of the few people that get it. What was your FIRST CLUE “me”?

infamouskrs

July 30th, 2012
9:23 pm

think about the possibilty of securing a top five draft pick and still having enough money to score two diamonds in next years free agent pool to put alongside either Josh or AL, or maybe both. I could deal with an off year in 2013 to make this happen…

Danga

July 30th, 2012
9:31 pm

Welcome back MC!

The silverman

July 30th, 2012
9:35 pm

6′9″ 345 can this guy play guard for the Falcons?

GT Alum

July 30th, 2012
9:36 pm

Wink -

Ferry is just trying to build a competitive team this year while trying to stockpile assets and cap space to build a title contender in the future. You don’t remake your team into a title contender overnight unless you have Kevin McHale gift you Kevin Garnett or can convince a guy who definitely could get a max contract and a guy who might’ve gotten a max contract to take less money to try to build a championship team, and there weren’t even those kind of guys on the market this year.

hawksfaninthewest

July 30th, 2012
9:39 pm

So basically we gained a trade exception of around 2 mill for a player that we were not going to re-sign anyway. …And oh yeah the rights to some dude that we will never have to pay. Looks like every move Ferry has made thus far is a good one.

steven a smith

July 30th, 2012
9:39 pm

Mickael Pietrus would fill out this roster nicely. 2-3 year deal at about 6 million. Dude can play 2 positions. Morre importantly, he is a “lockdown” defender.

hawksfancents95

July 30th, 2012
9:47 pm

idk why but i think danny ferrys goal was to get dwight here all along. he knew asg and sund were not gona attract any major free agents and he had to show jsmooth he was serious about turning the hawks around and to the rest of the league that he can make a semi good franchise into something great.
i think he knows in Cleveland he fudged up bringing in mediocre guys to complement Lebron, like antwaan jamison and mo williams and he should of been more proactive and made the big deal to get LBJ another star to help his burden. well danny ferry has come into ATL and made the hawks one of the top 5 most talked about NBA teams this summer with all these moves.
im so glad we got a GM that has something to prove and has had a few years to sulk and gain new ideas and see how a model professional franchise evaluates and runs a true operation(SA Spurs). ASG made a great move and they deserve credit as well for bringing in GM DF.

Astro Joe

July 30th, 2012
9:48 pm

I’d be surprised if Ferry offers a 2 year guaranteed contract to any SF at this point. It seems the master plan is to have cap space next summer to do some serious shopping in the most exclusive neighborhoods… signing any SF still on the market after 7 weeks of free agency to a multi-year guaranteed contract would seem like over-paying. A single year contract to someone like Pietrus, Josh Howard or Delfino seems far more likely (to me).

steven a smith

July 30th, 2012
9:59 pm

Danny has a tough decision to make in regards to Al Horford. He would have been better served to move Horford and have a shooter at the “4″ like Ryan Anderson. Too late for Anderson, however, a stretch “4″ would be interesting.

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Chuck Finley

July 30th, 2012
10:09 pm

6′9″ and 345lbs!! Dang! Trade him to the Falcons for maybe Tony G. He was a pretty good bball man back in the day.

MattP

July 30th, 2012
10:13 pm

Good move since the Hawks were not going to resign Green. Might be another Hawks trade later this off season with this guard heavy roster and trade exception.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 30th, 2012
10:14 pm

That Greek center is making my heart pound! Get him to Hotlanta, Danny Baby!!

Double Dribble

July 30th, 2012
10:22 pm

So, I’ve decided that Danny Ferry either 1) has very compromising pictures from last year’s GMs meetings or 2) is a Jedi Master using the Jedi Mind Trick to get all of these trades completed.

Seriously though, when are we all gonna wake up from this dream. We actually have a GM that knows what he is doing and is being allowed to do it.

I still hate the ASG for shipping my icebirds north, but if they actually will build a real championship contender out of the Hawks, then I’ll quit calling for them to be kicked out of the country.

vava74

July 30th, 2012
11:05 pm

It looks like either Sund had no idea how pull a stint like this or was too lazy to fill up the paperwork necessary to do it!

SteveW

July 30th, 2012
11:22 pm

AJ – The Bi-Annual exception – 2 years at 1.9 mill per annum wouldn’t kill us on cap space for next season. May even help us if we get a guy we think can help next season.

The Hawks may not have a #1 offensive option this season – I think it will be an inside – out game, with Josh and Al down low, Lou and Teague outside, and a guy like Morrow floating on the wing.

I’m still not sure if I like us starting ZaZa (Big) or Morrow (Small). Maybe switch out on a nightly basis likely LD is prone to do.

But I am in favor of us starting Lou at the 2 Guard, unless we play Big. Maybe even if we play Big.

Alot depends on:

1) How good of shape Morrow comes in at. If he’s declining, bad for the Hawks. If he’s got a Championship mentality of hard work, like JJ and Josh, good for the Hawks.

2) And how does Jordan Jenkins do against “real” competition.

I hope ZaZa and Al are fully recovered from their injuries.

A 2nd unit of Harris, Lou, and Korver would be formidable – and Ivan up front is good – but it seems a little weak with Petro at the C.

That’s why I think Coached and executed properly, the small lineup of:

Al
Josh
Morrow
Lou
Teague

Would be very difficult to defend against. But of course there would be major defensive liabilites as well.

MC – 14 spots already?

Josh, Al, Lou, Harris, Teague, ZaZa, Ivan, Morrow, Korver, Jenkins, Stevenson, Petro, Williams, Scott? Sy? Who is that 14th guy?

And can we ditch Jordan Williams?

SteveW

July 30th, 2012
11:27 pm

Something tells me that Josh and Al may be licking their collective chops at the opportunity to play the SF, PF positions. Maybe I’m wrong, but Josh did lose an awful lot of weight before last season, like he was preparing for some more time at the 3.

And LD hasn’t had the best relationship with ZaZa and Teague over his 1st year especially. I wonder if he would start both of them if he could get around it? He did last season (started them both).

I’m excited for this season. Can’t wait to see which way we go. Or does Danny have another trick up his sleeve?

And on ESPN, it is listing Korver as a SF – but man I hope he doesn’t start. I’m just not a big Kyle Korver fan. But of course I hope he does well with the Hawks.

SteveW

July 30th, 2012
11:30 pm

Steven Smith – I’m with you on Pietrus. There’s a few SF’s left that are pretty decent. Pietrus can play the 2 or 3 well. A 2nd unit of:

Harris
Jenkins
Pietrus
Ivan
ZaZa

Would be very well balanced both offensively and defensively. Solid 2nd unit. Very solid.

SteveW

July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm

I look for Josh and Al to have career years if healthy, and at least Josh to make the All Star team. Maybe Al also.

Lou and Teague probably have stellar years also.

And I’m glad Teague gets to learn from Harris. So many folks compare Teague’s game to his. Harris made an All Star team, and averaged 21+ ppg one season.

Teague has had the opportunity to learn from Bibby, Jamal, JJ, and maybe now Harris (depending on whether he’s traded or not before the season). It can only help him. And Van Exel in practice. Gotta be good.

And what’s the deal with the Hawks and J’s in the backcourt?

Jamal, Joe Johnson, Jordan Crawford, Jordan Jenkins, Jeff?

SteveW

July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm

If only our BC can hit some J’s…

We may be one of the best jump shooting teams in the NBA right now.

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
12:24 am

This dude is big as a house….One more burger and he’ll tip over…..

He makes Sir Charles look skinny…..Whew…..

No thanks….

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 31st, 2012
12:31 am

WE NEED BIGS. NO MORE GUARDS

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
12:31 am

Danny is not bringing Moby Dick to Atlanta..

Good move Danny to create more flexibility! Danny is a Pro’s Pro for sure!!!!

MattP

July 31st, 2012
12:33 am

Funny how people fail to understand that this guy is not coming over to the NBA anytime soon, that is if he comes over.

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
12:39 am

Danny is laying in the tall grass!

His goal is to pounce at the appropriate time and grab D12!

Throw Shamu back in the water!

Stay tuned!

Rev in Tampa

July 31st, 2012
12:41 am

I want to be optimistic about next season’s team, but every time I think it through I remember that Larry Drew is the coach and I lose all enthusiasm.

Rev in Tampa

July 31st, 2012
12:47 am

I agree with the thought expressed earlier that the Hawks should bring in a servicable SF for a one-year contract. Free up the cap-space to begin building a team that might actually be able to compete with the Heat in the Eastern Conference.

Rev in Tampa

July 31st, 2012
12:52 am

If Danny Ferry somehow finds a way to fire Larry Drew and replace him with a competent coach before the camp opens he should get the key to the city.

PD

July 31st, 2012
12:57 am

Pietrus if he can stay healthy should be on the Hawks. I think Zaza should start this year.

Teague
Jenkins or Williams
Smith
Horford
Zaza

2nd Unit
Harris
Jenkins
Pietrus
Ivan
Benson

Hawksfan

July 31st, 2012
1:07 am

hey you guys according to bleacher report Tyreke Evans could be a possible free agent signee for the hawks and maybe we should pursue another consider instead of all the eggs in the D12 basket. and i know we may not like this one but Andray Blatche is still out there. Oh and maybe we could eventually make a trade for Tyreke because hes proven to be a combo 1 and 2 guard and though it was shaky a little bit of the small forward and has great size 1 6′6 him and tegue can play together with Tyreke at the 2.

2 FOR JOHN DREW

July 31st, 2012
1:08 am

Welcome back MC

Hawksfan

July 31st, 2012
1:08 am

My bad maybe we should persue another center not consider

2 FOR JOHN DREW

July 31st, 2012
1:16 am

Alright everybody let’s get this thang going …. I’m starved

soullrenaissance

July 31st, 2012
1:57 am

Welcome back MC. Not the same when you are gone freaked out troll hijack the blog everytime and poison hoops talk with their drivel…i like the move, as it seem DF is primed for a major move THIS offseason. But piggy-backing off what Rev said, the hat trick would be finding excellence at the head coaching slot _ not now but right now.

soullrenaissance

July 31st, 2012
1:58 am

/\ trolls

WHEN ARE THEY MOVING ?????

July 31st, 2012
3:22 am

ARE THEY STILL IN ATLANTA ???? TIME SLIPPING AWAY< NEED TO SELL AND MOVE ASAP !!! NO NEED FOR THIS LEAGUE IN THIS TOWN !!!!! GET THEM MOVING TO SEATTLE NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SSchortsanitis

July 31st, 2012
3:54 am

Ya’ll got the gayest center in America.. Danny has contacted me to come and start for the hawks. I told him no Homo-Al horford has got to go. He agreed and so now I have a contract that his being bought by the Hawks.

You can not win if the opposition does not respect you in the middle. I will bring power and respect to the hawks. Hoford has got to go. You know if Amare punked him you can imagine whats going to happen when I get there. I would love to play with Josh. He has a winning attitude. This Horford guy has to go.

See you guys soon.

Michael Cunningham

July 31st, 2012
3:58 am

@soullrenaissance Shut up! you are the main one trolling. I see your IP being used under 4 or 5 different names. Im not going to put up with your foolishness.

Michael Cunningham

July 31st, 2012
4:03 am

!st team. Get used to it people

D Harris
Williams
Jenkins
Josh
Zaza

Michael Cunningham

July 31st, 2012
4:11 am

Josh is a budding Super Star, Look for Josh to have another great year. He carried us last year, while Al Laid out. I dont expect much from Al, but the usual college try. He will bring 12 pts and 8rbs to the game. I think he may get more of a bench role. We have to up grade the center position.

But Yeah, Slimjr. Josh is expected to have another stellar year. Most people dont realize that Josh’s worst season is better than Al best season, (he’s only had 1 decent season).

So we are going to move Al and Let him come off the bench, Kind of like a low post 6th man. Hes been punked too many times. No one respects us at the rim and dunk on us at will. Look for Al to have a smaller role. In fact if he wants he can lay out for the whole year like he did last year. We wont miss him at all. We sure didnt last year.

Michael Cunningham

July 31st, 2012
4:15 am

@Hawksfan we are going to trade teague the first chance we get. No more project s hit. Marvin’s gone and now we while get rid of teague and Al to clean up that bull crap and try and win a championship.

Michael Cunningham

July 31st, 2012
4:19 am

@Double Dribble Ive never seen your name on my site. What kind of troll are you? Are You soullrenaissance?

SSchortsanitis

July 31st, 2012
4:25 am

I will whoop yall sissy player center Al horford. No one respects him at the basket and he is gay

Michael Cunningham

July 31st, 2012
4:28 am

*Marvin’s gone and now we will get rid of teague and Al to clean up that bull crap and try and win a championship.

Harris will start over Teague. It another opportunity for teague to learn. If he doesnt learn this time we ship him.

Dyer Crowell Driving School

July 31st, 2012
4:52 am

Salary cap space is fine if players want to play in Atlanta. Problem is, step outside Philips and odds are you will get mugged.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
4:56 am

Barnes has been arrested in LA on a outstanding warrant relating to a driving without license offense.

ummm… I doubt that Ferry will look into signing Barnes since he seems to prefer “squeaky clean” type of players.

On the other hand, Barnes may be looking to a fresh start (another) away from his hometown cops.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
4:58 am

T-S,

You are starting way to early today. Wait for the regulars or you are wasting your finger tips.

Marcus

July 31st, 2012
6:25 am

MC or any of the regulars,

I remember during the 2010-2011 season on one round-table on NBA TV, C-Webb, and others (maybe Kenny Smith and Barkley?) were talking about the Hawks and why no one wanted to come to ATL.

Does the fact that D. Ferry is now our GM (with his track record) and/or the moves he has made (shocking to those inside and outside ATL) create a better perspective for potential FAs to come to the Hawks?
Is our sell job on the next years FA players based on current Hawks personnel that we keep or the change in management (or combination thereof)?

jay

July 31st, 2012
8:13 am

ESPN insider: The Golden State Warriors will have 15 players under contract within the next few days which means Dominic McGuire may have to sign with another team.

McGuire was the Warriors best defender last season and Marcus Thompson II of The Oakland Tribune suggests a couple scenarios which could keep him with the team. They include waiving Kent Bazemore, who has a non-guaranteed contract, and trading Jeremy Tyler or Andris Biedrins.

McGuire will likely have to accept a veteran minimum contract and the Hawks, Hornets and Bobcats might have interest in the forward

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
8:23 am

MC, Al will start and hopefull remind Orlando that he is worth trading for…

In tragic News:
Why are 49 million people on food stamps? Dam…..

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
8:24 am

His people are destroyed for “lack of knowledge”. Sad just sad…..

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
8:26 am

Barnes= Diva

No thanks….

Slimjr

July 31st, 2012
8:26 am

[hopefully]^^^^

doc

July 31st, 2012
8:38 am

sounds like barnes is on the josh powell side of his career. i had said he would fill a gap and provide something we need. on second thought, we dont need any meat heads around here that can t play. that may be a description of barnes at this point. i say pass on barnes at this point.

Buddy Grizzard

July 31st, 2012
8:46 am

Watch at :40 as Nenad Kristic punches and chokes Big Sofo from behind, then runs away like a little girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymr43dHcOQA

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
9:34 am

Dominic McGuire may not be a bad pickup for the Hawks.

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
9:35 am

I expect Danny to make a significant move once D12 is off the market.

D12 going to Houston helps our lottery protected pick we own and that would solidify us being able to cash in next year.

Now if Danny keeps Josh on this team, what kind of salary demands is Josh willing to accept? I know someone out there next offseason will be willing to overpay for him.

Danny dealing Willie is Danny getting something for nothing because Willie could have done that deal without any help from us

Big Ray, there is no way Danny can rid himself of LD because LD isn’t going to rock the boat. I would want the same thing, but the only thing Danny can do is watch us get off to a 3-10 start and then justify being able to replace him.

Chicago signing Nate Williams gives them more cushion while they wait on DRose to fully recover. They might still be one of the better East teams. It doesn’t appear they are going to amnesty Boozer.

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
9:38 am

Our Big 3 (If you can call them that):

Josh
Al
Lou

That’s not a terrible Big 3 – and all are going to be at or near their prime this season.

Scoring is not my concern with this team – Defense is.

It just seems like we are going to outscore folks to win.

And Morrow can be such a difference maker on this team – it’s all up to him – and LD also, if LD will utilize him.

Big Ray

July 31st, 2012
9:39 am

Like Sautee said, what an incredible difference between Sund and Ferry.

Of course, there is also the fact that the group formerly known as the ASG finally understood that they needed a suit to do the work, and to keep their uneducated grubby little hands out of it.

Speaking of which, nobody has heard Michael Gearon’s big mouth lately, and all quotes are coming from Ferry. For once there is true hope….

vava74

July 31st, 2012
9:39 am

I would not call that running away like a little girl… it’s more a case of buyer’s remorse

I think he realized that Sofo did not fit in his living room so he wanted a refund.

He was obviously shying away from having to fight Sofo, but never disregard a Serb as someone capable to mettle with the biggest foes.

These guys have been at war (in the Balcans) since ancient Rome, so it’s not that they are soft by nature.

Big Ray

July 31st, 2012
9:46 am

Kevin M ,

Totally get your point. Now here’s my counterpoint:

At some point “not rocking the boat” just isn’t good enough. In fact, LD is once again on the hot seat for this season (he’s only under contract until the end of this season, if I remember right), if not a lame duck.

Not rocking the boat does not equate to sufficient winning. And that’s what this organization is finally going to be about. Winning. LD is gonna have to prove he can really coach this season. If he can’t, then a roster of quick guards and athletic forwards is not going to be competitive. While we wait for next summer’s free agency bonanza (this should be fun…I hope) LD gets to show he knit this group together, one that doesn’t have the same core it always did (finally!).

So I’m not so sure “I won’t rock the boat” is gonna be a good enough alibi. Ferry has control, he proved it by breaking up the core. If I were LD, I’d be looking real hard at my “offensive brilliancy” scheme again. He’s gonna need it, among other things.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
9:48 am

Marcus, the last time the Hawks spent more than $3M on a “external” free agent (before the Lou signing a few weeks ago) was in 2005 with a guy name Speedy Claxton. IMO, the reason FAs weren’t interested in playing for the Hawks was because the Hawks were only willing to spend on their own FAs and wouldn’t pay others more than a minimum type fee. Danny Ferry has obviously changed things by clearing up cap space and showing no loyalty to the core group. So, yes, free agents (who ultimately want to get paid) will consider the Hawks because we have an ample supply of what they want, cash.

SteveW, I like Pietrus, always have, but I think a player of that ilk can be had on a one year deal every season. One year, Matt Barnes, another year Pietrus, the next year Damien Wilkins and so on. I don’t think you risk falling $1M short of offering a max deal to an elite free agent because you wanted Pietrus on a multi-year contract.

Dominic McGuire is a GREAT rebounder and above average defender. And unlike Pietrus, Barnes or Delfino, he has both the height and the mass to defend this conference’s better SFs. But if he scores more than 8 points in a game, confetti should fly from the Philips Arena ceiling.

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
9:58 am

Hawks vs. Heat (No, it’s not as stupid as it seems at first glance!):

Josh vs. LeBron – LeBron wins, but Josh can at least compete with him

Al vs. Bosh – Probably somewhere around a draw. Most would probably rate Bosh slightly higher – but some did see some slippage in Bosh this past season.

Lou vs. DWade – Don’t Ask. Only thing we got going for us here is that DWade is getting older, and has been injury prone.

Harris vs Chalmers – Advantage Hawks

Teague vs Cole – Advantage Hawks. But Cole can be very dangerous in spurts.

And you could switch Teague and Harris out in their comparisons and get the same thing.

ZaZa vs Anthony – Advantage Hawks, but again in spurts, Anthony can be serviceable.

Ivan vs Haslem – Haslem is a beast as a rebounder. But he is older and injury prone. Some I’m going to say somewhere around equal for now. We’re not talking about Haslem in his prime, but now.

Morrow vs. Ray Allen – If Morrow is on his game this season, this may not be as big of a blowout as it first appears. Ray is really hobbled, he’s 37, and his D is almost shot. But he probably still has the advantage on intangibles. Morrow will be 27, and should be entering his prime, we’ll see.

Korver vs. Battier – No contest. Only hope is again Battier has been injury prone. Battier holding up for 40+ minutes per nite in the Championship series really pushed Miami over the top.

Jordan Jenkins vs Mike Miller – Not sure how good JJ is going to be, or Miller’s health, so we’ll call it a draw for now.

DeShawn Stevenson vs Rashard Lewis – Probably a wash – both really on the downside of their careers. Again, we’re not talking about 5 years ago, but this year.

Johan Petro vs. Pittman/Darko, or whoever else they roll out there – Probably about a wash. Petro may have a slight advantage in some cases, but not enough to notice.

I mean, look, Miami has a better team. But they definitely have some X factors also. DWade, Miller, Haslem, Battier are all injury prone at this point in their careers. Wade had off season knee surgery, never a good thing for a player like him. And Rashard Lewis and Ray Allen are def. on the way down, and have some injury issues also. So it’s not like they’re invincible.

But Riley has sure done a good job at building that team, surrounding the Big 3 with talent. And LeBron has come on like a Champ. The guys the best player in the world. No doubt.

And Arinson doesn’t mind paying the tax, Big Time. The Heat’s cap situation is abysmal – but as long as Arinson is paying the bills, it really doesn’t matter.

They got a bunch of old, oft injured geezers on the hook for alot of money long term

And I just realized I left James Jones off the list – Maybe Jordan Williams (doubtful), Mike Scott, Pape Sy, Keith Benson, or Pietrus or somebody else we sign cancels him out.

Miami sure has alot of bodies coming off that bench.

doc

July 31st, 2012
10:01 am

you guys are so silly. with rick still around the house i am sure he is the true puppet master to make these things happen. surely danny couldnt have caught on in such a short time what needed to be done.

aj, it has been awhile since our sf was scoring much above 8ppg so i dont think it is a requirement for the job. we do need a defensive and rebounding sf to help our undersized front line. he sounds like the right prescription to me as there are scorers ready to come off the bench for him when our starters need blows and offense drops off among our bigs.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
10:03 am

Steve, I think if you find Chalmers’ stats against the Hawks, you may have a different perspective.

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
10:03 am

Aj – I hear ya – Just saying if we like Delfino or somebody better than some other guys out there, or if your in a mini bidding war with a team, we do have the Bi-Annual at 1.9m per available. The number crunchers on the Hawks can see if it would affect our FA viability next off season.

McGuire, Gee, a few others – there are some interesting options out there if we go that route.

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
10:06 am

AJ – I know Chalmers can do great in spurts – but he is very inconsistent – but he does his best under pressure, like when LeBron and Wade were hurt against the Hawks last season.

But I think overall, Teague or Harris is better than Chalmers, on a nite in nite out basis.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
10:13 am

SteveW,

The new Lebron (non-choking because he already won the title and now knows how to play point-Power Forward) is such an advantage that you can stop the conversation right there.

Josh is a great multi-talented player, but he does not have the foot speed, nor the post/man to man D to keep up with Lebron.

Let’s first worry with reaching the ECF and not make fools out of ourselves against MIA.

PS: Wade will officially take a back seat, as he did from midway the BOS series and he will not beat up his body as in the past. MIA will coast to a #1 seed but without looking for 70 wins in order to keep his main cogs fresh.

PPS: Our current roster is extremely soft on D. We need to bank on an highly efficient use of our tiny personnel to get within the #6 to #8 seed dogfight.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
10:15 am

doc, yeah, as recently as Marvin’s last 2-3 games he started(I think).

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
10:16 am

doc, yeah, as recently as Marvin’s last 2-3 games he started (I think).

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
10:17 am

AJ – I remembered that also about Chalmers, but he averaged 13.8 ppg and 4 assists per game vs. the Hawks this past season – good, but not incredible or anything.

And his season averages were 9.6 ppg and 3.8 assists per game – 12.98 PER – nothing to write home about.

The year before in 4 games he averaged 5.5 ppg and 3.5 assists per game against ATL.

I think overall, Teague or Harris are better PG’s than Chalmers.

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
10:21 am

Vava – I agree with you – Durant is the only guy that can be mentioned in the same breath as LeBron right now – and he’s not nearly the complete player that LeBron is. Limited versatility.

But Durant’s O is so unstoppable and incredible, within the flow of the sets, that talent alone puts him in the conversation.

But I agree, I think Miami did some tanking this season to stay fresh.

And Coach Spo’ was masterful resting the oft injured bench guys in the playoffs, giving them rest games, and then letting them be fresh in the next game. Well managed rotations. Fantastic really.

I was rooting against Miami, but I noticed Spo’s rotations and it worked. Masterful.

SteveW

July 31st, 2012
10:24 am

Levenson’s been talking a little bit as well…

PMC

July 31st, 2012
10:32 am

Do you have to go to the doctor if you have a Short Scantis?

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
10:34 am

SteveW, good stuff and I know you know your guys, but I would you rather call Jenkins, Joe, instead of Jordan…..our new JJ.

AJ, I was looking at McGuire’s stats and I remember the game he had against us……….

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Feb 29 @ ATL W 85 – 82 36 0 – 1 0 – 0 0 – 0 1 14 15 1 1 0 2 2 0

The format isn’t there but it basically says 15 rebounds and zero points. That has to be chasing a NBA record of some sort. And yes, I only saw him score in double figures 5-6 times. But I like the kid’s size and perhaps he fills the bench void for a defender. We could use a couple on this roster.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
10:34 am

Yep, Spo was often under fire but he did a masterful work and it was only when his stars bought into his plan (both Lebron and Wade) that they became nearly unstoppable*.

* I still think they got away with some referee bias that favored them in crucial moments.

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
10:38 am

Steve, if you ask me today, I take Chalmers over Teague or Devin Harris.

Why? The guy has clutch in his game. He has hit big game shots time and time again. When Miami was wavering and pandering around last year deciding whether to re-sign him, I was ‘hoping’ Sund would come out of his man-cave and bring him in. But Sund’s rule was never pay more than the minimum to bring someone in.

I hope Sund and his minimum effort serves him well in retirement. What a waste of 4 years!

Brandon

July 31st, 2012
10:51 am

345?? A 6′9″ 345 basketball player??? Is that a typo of some sort?? That’s a nfl linemen right there. Not an NBA player. He’s shorter and fatter than
shaq is if that’s his real weight. Maybe he should read about overweight NBA Players and the Heath problems. And read about Robert “Tracker Trailer”’s story of being severally overweight.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
11:25 am

Brandon,

Sofa-Sofo will not play with us not with anyone else in the NBA.
He is under contract with Panatinaikos for 3 years (just signed).
When his contract is up, he will be a 30 year old 400-pounder.
This was strictly to get from the Clips their trade exception.

Sofo Knowledge

July 31st, 2012
12:00 pm

Lay off on the Sofo hate. The trade exception was genius move. Ferry is moving mountains trying to make the Hawks better. Sofo may never come to the NBA but he has held his own in world competition and is more celebrated internationally than a lot of people realize. Although before I never thought it would be possible or thinkable. At least the thought of Ferry pursuing a Bynum or Howard while keeping Josh and Al here and happy is definitely rootable.

Geemack

July 31st, 2012
12:22 pm

The Hawks need to clear space and go after Bynum next summer. A front line of Josh, Al, & Bynum would be the best in the NBA. Lou WIlliams and Teague would make the Hawks instant contenders.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
12:32 pm

Geemack, they have the cap space to go after Bynum next year, assuming he wants to walk away from ~$20M by going to another team.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
1:18 pm

The only way we can get Bynum is if in a Howard trade scenario:

a) Bynum says that he will not re-sign with ORL nor with other trade partener, but would sign with us (unlikely); and
b) We, as the third team in the trade, give Horford and someone else like Teague to ORL as the “consolation prize”.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
1:24 pm

If the rumors about McGuire are true, make it happen. I still remember him getting 15 rebounds on the Hawks from the SG position (for comparison’s sake, his positional counterpart in that game, Joe Johnson, ended up with 4 rebounds). A guy with a 3 ppg average shouldn’t command much more than the vet minimum, but his ability to do other things should make him well worth such a contract.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
1:28 pm

Here’s maybe the saddest thing you will see all day. Is there any other former first-round pick on Twitter with less than 200 followers?

https://twitter.com/CalBowdler

giggly doop dee do

July 31st, 2012
2:09 pm

Let him give hard fouls to other teams centers.

ryan

July 31st, 2012
2:09 pm

If D12 is traded to Houston and i don’t think he signs long term there he will most likely be a rental my guess is the Lakers , Nets , Hawks will still be in the picture next summer .

giggly doop dee do

July 31st, 2012
2:15 pm

Bynum isnt consistent and stays injured too much.

hawksfancents95

July 31st, 2012
2:17 pm

Id be down for DMac, he’s lengthy gets boards and can play some perimeter D. He’d be a good option coming off the bench.vet minimum on a playoff team should get him.
i resend my offer for barnes, how are you a nba player making that money not pay for traffic ticket or solve that issue promptly and then mouth off to cops?do you value being perceived as a bad a ss or an nba player more? he clearly is bout that life, idiot.

Future NBA Champions

July 31st, 2012
2:43 pm

The Hawks are on their way to being a dynasty. Ferry is a genius. And we will still seriously contend this year I honestly don’t think losing Joe and Marvin will make us take a huge hit in production since we added Lou Will who only scored 3 fewer than Joe (off the bench). Joe’s clutchness, size, and overall defense will be missed but his clutchness will be replaced by John Jenkins and Lou Williams. A defensive sf would help. But with the team the way it is now we will still be a top 5 seed. And of course next year 2013 we will pick up a star or 2 (hopefully SUPERstar) and we will win our first NBA championship of many to come. Btw Josh Smith is a superstar and a top 3 PF in the NBA. Biggest all-star snub in nba history.

roster at about 35 players right now?

July 31st, 2012
2:58 pm

Bet he’ll be glad to get away from all the african immigrants in Greece that the ex-olympic sprinter was talking about. Oh wait, he’s coming to Atlanta!
lol

Buddy Grizzard

July 31st, 2012
3:30 pm

KC Johnson: After Nate Robinson signing, Bulls are either done or might add Tracy McGrady. Twitter

ryan

July 31st, 2012
3:49 pm

Bulls can have T Mac we clearing a lot a cap space for something big don’t know if its D12 or not my gut says Ferry has a plan .

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
4:03 pm

What we’re seeing so far in the Ferry overhaul is not one person has been re-signed from the Sund regime.

The only variable there might be Ivan, but I haven’t seen the news on that yet.

Perhaps Danny takes care of LD in the near future as well. Big Ray, you listening?

I would not be surprised to see Josh, Al, Jeff and Zaza in rumors going forward.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
4:30 pm

I don’t see the value of dumping LD anytime soon. Ferry likely has a list of coaching candidates to consider next summer. He hasn’t built a team this year to do anything more than compete for the back-end of the playoffs… even with a better head coach. So LD gets to audition for another head coaching job (or offensive coordinator) and Ferry makes his big move next summer with both the roster and the coaching staff.

giggly doop dee do

July 31st, 2012
4:37 pm

Ban SteveW. This is a blog not a book.

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
4:46 pm

AJ, with LD on his one year leash, it does open the potential that if Danny likes him, he gets to return. If it is cut and dry that LD is the scapegoat for one year, why go through that to waste a year on your plan?
Wouldn’t it be more advantageous to insert a long time predecessor now? Or is Danny looking at an active coach like Thibs to fall through the cracks?

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
4:57 pm

Kevin, Ferry probably has both available and contracted candidates on his list. It may also depend on what he can do with the roster next summer. If he brings in some experienced and productive vets, then he may want to go with one type of coach than if he misses out on that type of player and has to build with younger guys. Here’s an example, if he can put together a roster capable of making the Finals in the next 3 years, maybe a Jerry SLoan type makes sense. if he can’t, and he has to use the cap space to trade for players like Derrick Favors or Derrick Williams or sign OJ Mayo (young guys not ready to compete for a title imediately), then Sloan probably isn’t the right guy at his age… maybe Brian Shaw or Mo Cheeks is a better selection. IMO, there is very little chance that LD stays beyond this year and the right coach to replace him should be based (in part) on the roster.

But all of this is easy for me because I have ZERO expectations of the coming season. Many of you are predicting far better results. I’m personally hoping for a lottery pick next June… avoid the playoffs and have a lottery pick, cap space AND a new head coach to start a new era of Hawks basketball.

Buddy Grizzard

July 31st, 2012
4:58 pm

“I don’t see the value of dumping LD anytime soon.”

Maybe we would move up from having the worst coach in the NBA to having the second worst? That would be an upgrade. Anything would be an upgrade. Dominique would be an upgrade.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
5:02 pm

And my guess is that Pop’s head assistant (mike B—, I won’t try and spell his name) is probably at the top of Ferry’s list.

Melvin

July 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

The Hawks may have salary cap space during the wrong summer. I like the 2012 Free Agents better than 2013. Outside of the top 6 potential 2013 FAs, there is no one I would offer more than 10 mil (or a big contract) to. I like Harden and Ibaka but I wouldn’t break the bank for either of them. I hope Danny doesn’t overpay for mediocre players next summer like Detroit did with Gordon and Charlie V a few summers ago. I would rather see Ferry hold on to the cap flexibility for another season than to overpay avg players.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/ranking-the-2013-nba-free-agents/

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
5:07 pm

I would not be surprised Buddy if Nique took that role and filled the LD slot in a pinch.
LD is an adequate coach; he’s just not a coach that is going to make us a contender. Is he as good as Terry Stotts? Probably.

According to the ASG, he’s better than Casey or Mark Jackson, so opinions vary widely on LD.

I’m ready to put him in the rear view no matter if we are going to compete this year or not. We have to pay for leadership. I don’t see why that is such a hard concept to understand.

Danny’s being too nice keeping LD at this point. If everyone on this roster is being held accountable, LD better be at the top of the list.

Would anyone be shocked if we had no returnees from last year on this year’s opening day roster?

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
5:11 pm

Melvin, if we can’t get a top notch FA next year, get ready for a major rebuild IMO. I seriously don’t even want to wait that long to grab a big name.
We need a big time frontline all-star from the rookies game or the real AS game. We aren’t contending until we do.

Astro Joe

July 31st, 2012
5:16 pm

Kevin, I would be shocked. No way is Ferry getting rid of Horford, Josh or Teague in the next few weeks. There’s pretty much nothing that Ferry can do now to help this team in the 2012-13 season make the ECF… you don’t trade Joe for scraps if you’re in a “win now” mode. Remember how he talked about “building a sustainable program”?

terrell

July 31st, 2012
5:17 pm

HawksTarheel, what two 20 pts a game scorers did Dallas have last year?

hawksfancents95

July 31st, 2012
5:20 pm

Astro Joe
That was a great post. GM DF is set to perfection, he did the first measure which was get the support of the fan base. Now he freed up cap room while keeping us in the playoffs while having no expectations from the fans on this season. also with LD at the helm we can see what he does on a contract year where he has the pressure on himself to perform for his next gig while if we suck early theres the excuse to fire him. GM DF has a few coaches and i believe who we get will dictate who he goes after. jerry sloan would be an amazing fit if we can land dwight or another big name guy. its not like the only people we can get our the free agents in 13, look at joe johnson he got traded with four years left so big name guys can always be moved for a price.

Atlanta we are in way better shape than any of us ever would of predicted when GM DF took over. He deserves GM of the year for just his work in June.

Just Joe

July 31st, 2012
5:31 pm

Ferry should go after Yi Jianlian as a free agent. Would be a good business decision. Bring in some marketing dollars. Get the Hawks some international exposure. Yi is young still (turns 25 in October). He’s had a decent Olympics. A good low risk pickup with the veteran minimum.

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
5:43 pm

Just Joe

July 31st, 2012
5:31 pm

Ditto.

I forgot about this guy. He could be a real “darkhorse” in this whole free agent process. He is a guy who may benefit from being thrust into a rotation, much like Jeremy Lin. At 6″11″ he would be that stretch “4″ who would open up the lane.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
5:47 pm

“Bet he’ll be glad to get away from all the african immigrants in Greece that the ex-olympic sprinter was talking about. Oh wait, he’s coming to Atlanta!”

Uh… maybe you should have consulted Google Images before posting that.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
5:49 pm

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steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
5:54 pm

I would Trade Al Horford for a 1st round pick and a bucket of Fried Chicken. Would not miss his “Lax” effort on the defensive side of the Basketball! Tank this season with “2″ 1st round picks next summer. Al is NOT the answer…

Ken Strickland

July 31st, 2012
5:59 pm

There’s no way I’d take Chalmers over Teague or Harris. On that team, Chalmers is a PG in name only, since LeBron and DWade control the ball and the OFF. He hasn’t proven he can successfully function as the focal point of an OFF and control or run it as the teams true PG who controls the OFF and the ball.

Lebron and Wade are the true interior defenders on that team, and our shooters will force them to play more on the perimeter. Wade is their leading shotblocker, and Harris, Jenkins, Williams, and Morrow will force him to play our shooters rather than roaming and providing interior help DEF. Do you think LeBron will drop off Korver to help inside?

Weak DEF players like Korver don’t have to try and stop players as big, strong and athletic as LeBron. He just has to try and take away certain things that he does well and force him to do something else that he’s less effective at doing. Instead of trying to stop him from driving, he should give ground and force him to become a midrange shooter, which he’s not good at doing.

Drew has to adjust our DEF where we play a combination of intelligent and good team DEF.

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
5:59 pm

Cal Bowdler has 228 followers and Google Search: Cal Bowdler says the love he shares with his wife, Brooke, is what 99 percent of people search for and never find.

Meanwhile ajc runs a story about a mom who starved her own preteen to death and the gov’t that didn’t care.

Which is sadder?

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:01 pm

sigh, Back to the subject at hand – bball. Dominic McGuire, the SF/PF that locked Joe up lol. He’s a guy you know can guard.

He asking for the vet min? Then get him. Barely hanging on in the league I think

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:05 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ymWeSe-TgY
May 23, 2011

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:06 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vrWfafkaI
This one’s more accurate and appropriate with that Luva luva boi from Georgia providing the soundtrack.

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:09 pm

I’d like Yi (he’s been playing center). But honestly No way Yi’s agent settles for the vet min.
Yi was just carrying the Olympic flag for China.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
6:13 pm

“Cal Bowdler has 228 followers and Google Search: Cal Bowdler says the love he shares with his wife, Brooke, is what 99 percent of people search for and never find”

How can this be sad? Do you think happiness is measure by the number of tweeter followers or the success of a sports career?

Look at the happiness that football sucess gave to Junior Seau (an example amongst many).

You just a kid – or a youngster I am sure – but you should start to get your head right as for now.

Twitter is a SAD and pathetic scheme to profit from people’s sad sack attention hunger.

Sautee

July 31st, 2012
6:15 pm

“I would Trade Al Horford for a 1st round pick and a bucket of Fried Chicken. Would not miss his “Lax” effort on the defensive side of the Basketball!” – steven a smith

Hey steven, FYI:

In 2011 (Horford’s last full season) Al received 7 votes for the NBA-All-Defensive team, including 3 first place votes. He had the same number of overall votes as Josh, but Josh only had 1 first place vote (a travesty). He had more votes than Battier, Ibaka, and Sefalosha, all noted defensive players.

So at least 4 NBA head coaches disagree with your view of Horford’s defense. Pretty good results for all that lax effort, eh?

here’s the link: http://www.examiner.com/article/2011-all-defensive-team-announced

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
7:00 pm

I’m going to say it again….if Al Jefferson was worth 2 1st round picks for Utah, Josh and Al have at least that much value.

“The Timberwolves agreed to send Jefferson to the Jazz for two future first-round draft picks and center Kosta Koufos.”

On a twisted note, Utah had to send back one of Minny’s draft picks this year because Utah qualified for the playoffs. So the Jefferson deal ends up being 1 1st round and Koufos.
So yes, Josh and Al are at least worth the value of what that Jefferson deal ended up being.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
7:01 pm

Wow, everyone is on the serious tip today. The Cal Bowdler post was just an offhand remark, people. No need to get all existential about it.

Pot Head Unit!!

July 31st, 2012
7:24 pm

“Al vs. Bosh – Probably somewhere around a draw. Most would probably rate Bosh slightly higher – but some did see some slippage in Bosh this past season.”

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
7:27 pm

“Al vs. Bosh – Probably somewhere around a draw. Most would probably rate Bosh slightly higher – but some did see some slippage in Bosh this past season.”

Hard not to see it.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnLDlXRYfExKSKd-rUn23P7PPVXGIXXgrmtGLXYKyJ45955jDwmGCwFPdp

Pot Heads Unit!!

July 31st, 2012
7:28 pm

Teague is every bit as good as Michael Jordan and Al horford is as good as Moses Malone, and we are going to win a championship with these two.

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
7:45 pm

There is no way the hawks are going any where with Al on your team. Al sucks. He is sorry and lazy. He is a scrub and a whining loser.

PLEASE GET THIS SLOUCH OF OUR TEAM SO WE CAN GET OUT OF THE SECOND ROUND FOR A CHANGE!!!

True Hawk

July 31st, 2012
7:49 pm

Man! It doesn’t take much to get y’all bowing at Danny Ferry’s feet does it? Y’all act like we have been a playoff team for a long time instead of new to the game, which we are. Some of us have been around here long enough to be sick and tired of the constant rebuilding, often on the cheap. I don’t expect I’ll be getting a lot of value for my season ticket money this year.

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
7:59 pm

Notice all the Al supports must use Josh in there attempt to help Al’s value rise. What a Joke.

Josh can stand on his own. Al is not in Josh’s league nor does Al mean as much to the team as Josh.

This is a much better team with out Al than with him. We really dont need Al. He ruins the teams chemistry. Hes peaked and we will never get out of the seconds round as long as Al is on this team. GEE

We have this same conversation ever year. Al is part of the problem not part of the solution. Al and Marvin both should be traded.

Dept. Of Unintended Irony

July 31st, 2012
8:03 pm

“Hes peaked and we will never get out of the seconds round as long as Al is on this team.”

How about the minutes round? The hours round? Days?

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
8:10 pm

Sautee

July 31st, 2012
6:15 pm

If Al is not traded, I think he would be a quality back-up PF/C for this Basketball Team! He would be Awsome coming “off” the Bench…

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
8:12 pm

Notice all the Al supports must use Josh in there attempt to help Al’s value rise. What a Joke.

Josh can stand on his own. Al is not in Josh’s league nor does Al mean as much to the team as Josh.

This is a much better team with out Al than with him. We really dont need Al. He ruins the teams chemistry. Hes peaked and we will never get out of the second round as long as Al is on this team. GEE

We have this same conversation ever year. Al is part of the problem not part of the solution. Al and Marvin both should be traded.

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
8:13 pm

A deal of Teague and Horford to Utah for Al Jefferson would probably move us past the 2nd round.
The money would definitely work.

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
8:14 pm

Al would be nice coming off the bench getting minutes at the 5 or 4

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
8:16 pm

If Danny Ferry could pull off this trade. Atlanta would be in very good shape.

Teague and Horford to Utah for Al Jefferson would probably move us past the 2nd round.

Just Joe

July 31st, 2012
8:19 pm

Veteran minimum would be an increase for Yi. He made $770,086 playing for Dallas last year. He’ll be looking for minutes, not money.

True Clarity

July 31st, 2012
8:31 pm

Jefferson can’t protect the rim any better than Horford, shoots a lower %, and is a worse rebounder. He’s too much the same player as Horford, with a better low post game, and less of everything else. All you would be doing is ditching Teague for a basically even swap. Of course you’d be getting rid of your nemesis, so I guess that makes it ok by you. I think that’s a bad trade. I’d be shocked if Ferry didn’t agree.

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
9:06 pm

When the Hawks drafted Al Horford, they left Mike Connley on the board. That was the same year they drafted A. C. Law III. Horrible draft that year. Huge “Missed Opportunity”

Yoop

July 31st, 2012
10:20 pm

I bet those girls at Diamonds got paid after Lou came to town lmao!

http://atlantasroyalphotography.smugmug.com/UPDATED-NIGHT-LIFE/72512-DOA-BROUGHT-TO-YOU-BY/24393051_t5Dgd2#!i=1988607925&k=JZDPHZm&lb=1&s=A

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

August 1st, 2012
2:44 am

2011-2012 2012-2013
Teague Teague
Joe Morrow
Marvin Stephenson
Jsmoove Jsmoove
Horford Horford

Hinrich Devin Harris
Zaza Zaza
Collins Petro
Mcgrady Korver
Willie Green Lou Williams
Ivan Ivan
Stackhouse Jenkins

From top to bottom this years team looks better. We got the 4th seed without Horford last year and Joe only averaged 18ppg.

vava74

August 1st, 2012
6:46 am

steven a smith
July 31st, 2012
9:06 pm

How can you be taken seriously?
I coined “Diaper Al” so I am not on Horford’s bandwagon but to say that Conley would have been a better pick tha Al is simply preposterous.
You will not find a single GM or coach in the NBA who would agree to that.
Not one.

ag

August 1st, 2012
7:27 am

vava74 – why waste your time responding to those clowns. When a person blogs we could have had Mike Conley over Al… they are truly clowns. I think they saw Al out and he refused to give them a autograph – now it is mad Al hate on these blogs.

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
9:03 am

“Danny’s being too nice keeping LD at this point.”

Nice has nothing to do with it. LD was part of the deal when Ferry took the job. When Gearon was on the phone with Ferry trying to sell him on taking this job, he told him “we like LD, we don’t want to start over with a new coach, we want him to finish the third year of his deal and evaluate after this season.”

Ferry has a 6-year contract. He’s not worried about it. LD will either prove the ASG right or prove them wrong. If he turns the corner as an NBA coach this year, Ferry doesn’t have to conduct a coaching search. Here are LD’s biggest liabilities as a coach:

1. Has a tendency to play end-of-the-bench scrubs ahead of rotation players in the playoffs.

He did this in his first year when he played Jason Collins and Josh Powell ahead of Zaza Pachulia. As you saw this season, Zaza is a legit starting center. Powell will likely never play in the NBA again. LD did it again this year by playing scrubs like Pargo and Green ahead of legitimate rotation players T-Mac and KH. In both seasons, LD’s absurd lineup decisions in the playoffs cost the Hawks an opportunity to go to the ECF. The talent was there. LD just decided to play scrubs instead of rotation players. Please note that Ferry has declined to bring ANY of LD’s pet scrubs back.

2. LD failed to hold his players accountable for not running his offense and not playing every possession on defense.

LD’s failure to hold players accountable resulted in another failed hero-ball effort by Joe against the Celtics, and resulted in Josh quitting on plays to argue with refs, which may have cost the Hawks the series against Boston. Joe is in Brooklyn now, and LD’s nose isn’t long enough to get a sniff anymore. All that remains to be seen is, will LD continue to completely fail to get Josh to play at an All-Star level. LD has been coaching Josh since his rookie season. That’s how far back this failure goes. The talent has been there, LD has simply failed to properly harness it.

3. LD gave away the second Heat game by not using the foul the Hawks had to give and allowing Bosh to tie it in regulation with a three.

LD’s not the only coach to make this mistake. SVG did it in the NBA finals, allowing Fisher to turn the tide of that series and cost Orlando the only chance it had to win a title with Dwight. It’s still a stupid mistake for any coach to make.

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
9:28 am

“Ferry should go after Yi Jianlian as a free agent.”

I like this idea. If Yi has a breakout year with the Hawks, it’s another feel-good story. I like the idea of that more than I like the idea of handing the small forward job to Barnes, an idiot who mouths off to cops while he doesn’t even have an NBA contract.

“Dominic McGuire, the SF/PF that locked Joe up lol.”

Joe scored 18 points in that game. Don’t know if DM “locked him up” but he might be a good pickup.

“A deal of Teague and Horford to Utah for Al Jefferson would probably move us past the 2nd round.”

How many All-Defensive first team votes did Al Jefferson have last year? How many All-NBA selections does he have? And you want to trade a better player for him PLUS throw in another proven starter? We all feel sorry for you, Blog Troll. We know that you have no life and all you have to cling to is your hatred of Al Horford. We just wish you’d say something original every once in a while.

Just change it up. Write that you hate Jeff Teague for a change. Trash Teague… watch all his fans rush to his defense… it will be a fun exercise. It’s just as sad reading about the girl who starved to death as it is watching you day in, day out work out your neurosis with Horford hate posts. Just sad. We’re talking Cal Bowdler twitter feed sad, man. I got a tear in my eye thinking about how tragic your life is.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
9:32 am

Don’t respond to the HORFORD HATING TRASH that hangs around these blogs posting one stupid comment after another. It appears they believe if they repeat the same stupid comments and suggestions over and over again often enough, they will convince themselves and others that their special brand of BS will somehow become factual and make sense. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!

I read an article that listed the available FA SF still on the market, and it looks like we’ll have to initiate a trade to get one that gives us what we want. The trade exception that we just got from trading WGreen might be a step in that direction. The big overweight Greek player that was mentioned in the trade won’t ever become a Hawk, nor will he likely ever play in the NBA, after not getting a shot in the 9yrs since he was drafted in 2003.

We didn’t trade for him, we traded for his rights and nothing else. Right now, it looks like JSmith will be our starting SF, but I don’t think it will happen. First, it will drastically reduce our depth and talent at backup OC. It will also limit us to having only 1 of our acquired outside shooters in the starting lineup, which would encourage Josh to shoot outside more rather than posting up.

Since the nature of the moves Ferry has made so far is based on next yr, it appears this season will be a season of evaluation, experimentation, and transition. Ferry will want to see which of our soon to be FAs will prove valuable and productive enough to be considered for resigning next yr. That will be very important with pending FAs Zaza, Josh, Teague, Harris, Morrow, Williams, Petro, and Stevenson.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
9:36 am

BUDDY GRIZZARD-Your last post to that ANAL MINDED MORON was classic, just classic. Well said young man, well said. It’s too bad it won’t be understood or appreciated by the ANAL in question.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
9:38 am

One more thing on the “fire LD now” discussion. Ferry’s moves so far have either been neutral or have improved his boss’ financial commitment. If he fires LD now, LD gets his last year of salary plus ownership has to pay the new head coach. For what? Again, the ‘12-13 team is not built to do anything special or wonderful. It is a stop-gap team, a purgatory team, a lame duck team, so it should have a lame duck head coach to lead it.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
9:45 am

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2012/7/30/3187886/atlanta-hawks-and-the-search-for-the-small-forward

Here’s the article that I mentioned on our pursuit of a SF in my 9:32am post.

Rusty

August 1st, 2012
11:22 am

No one should takes Steven Smith seriously,he is the master of dumb crap. LD shouldn’t be here..al & JT are good players ,what’s with all these people here.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
11:43 am

Where would Yi play (assuming Ivan stays)?

Slimjr

August 1st, 2012
11:56 am

Worldwide: Stackhouse followed ISO Joe say it aint so and signed with the vava’s team, the [Crooklyn Nets]..

I believe Collins is gone elsewhere too?

T-Mac is not coming back as long as Drew is coaching them…..

“Shoot the J! Shoot it!” Dave Chappell

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
12:01 pm

“a lame duck team, so it should have a lame duck head coach to lead it.”

Somebody suggested Danny Ferry will give LD enough rope to hang himself. Actually, I think Ferry is putting LD in the best possible position to succeed. By removing Collins, Green, Pargo, Damp, Stack and Vlad from the rotation, Ferry takes away the temptation LD couldn’t resist, to give minutes to terrible players. Ferry’s arrival could be the best thing that could have possibly happened to LD’s career. If LD fails this year, he may never get another HC position. Ferry has made it more likely LD will succeed.

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
12:03 pm

“Where would Yi play (assuming Ivan stays)?”

I would start Ivan at PF and Josh at SF. It would probably be more diplomatic at this point for LD to start Zaza and move Al to PF. Al and Ivan split backup C minutes, Ivan, Yi and Josh split backup PF minutes and Ivan and Yi split backup SF minutes.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
12:18 pm

Twin Collins signed with the Celtics (I think).

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
12:53 pm

Correct.

doc

August 1st, 2012
12:56 pm

durn made my day, someone mention Yi Jianlian? what a coup of having both al and yi in same lineup with josh between them. i think yi is ready to grab the moment. anyone see his you tube stuff form china? what a player!

heh heh

for you aj.

hawksfancents95

August 1st, 2012
2:00 pm

i think a major problem last year was we played to many guys every game. our rotation was usually 10 guys every game. it was too many options and it didnt let guys get in a real groove(esp teague). i like yi jianlin but i would only get him if ivan doesnt re-sign. theres too few of minutes to go around and yi can only really play PF aND thats a strong position we have filled. lets get a vet min SF McGuire or Delfino and we are fine. i see us now as:
teague/harris
lou will/morrow/jenkins
jsmooth/korver
al/ivan(hopefully)
zaza/petro
that leaves deshawn, jordan williams, keith benson, Def SF left for our 12 man rotation. maybe we take keith benson over petro as well. i think Yi Jianlin will get a better than vet min contract elsewhere to be a backup PF.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
2:00 pm

doc, funny. Frankly, I’d rather see Keith Benson added to the team than Yi. I like the idea of Horford, Zaza, Josh & Ivan getting around 90 of the 96 minutes at C/PF. Give those other token minutes to a project player (like Benson).

SteveW

August 1st, 2012
3:59 pm

Yi has been all athlete and no BB player to me to this point in his career. You keep thinking he’s going to be the next great thing, then nothing. He’s not high on my priority list right now for the Hawks.

Of course, he now becomes the next LeBron lite since I say this…

SteveW

August 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

KevinM – I take Chalmers in the clutch over Teague and Devin all day long.

But over the long haul – to get to the clutch situations, I take the other two.

But your right – Chalmers is clutch usually (thinking about a TO or two he made in the playoffs late, but still).

And I would have much rather have had Chalmers for 4mill, which is his contract, than Hinrich for 8 mill.

Even if we would have to give Chalmers the Mid level of 5.2 mill per season, way better than Hinrich.

And I like Hinrich, and he was somewhat of an overall upgrade over Bibby (not offensive statistics, but the eye test) – but that guy had lost some when he got here.

Probably his high point was the Orlando playoff series – played solid – I have no idea what his stats were, I just remember he did ok.

And Chicago just signed Hinrich for 2 years 8 mill – I know he’s Coach TT’s type player, but really? He’ll play hard for a few games, then the nagging injuries come back.

SteveW

August 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

AJ – With you 100% on Benson over Yi.

But like I said, Yi becomes the next Superstar because I say that. Life hurts.

SteveW

August 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

And isn’t Sofoklis some Muppet character?

SteveW

August 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

Alonzo Gee would be a nice addition to this squad as well. I’m not sure we have the roster space for both he and Benson according to MC’s article, unless we waived Jordan Williams.

Now of course he will be good since I say this…

Just messin’ ya’ll about that stuff.

KevinM

August 1st, 2012
4:44 pm

“Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
9:38 am
One more thing on the “fire LD now” discussion. Ferry’s moves so far have either been neutral or have improved his boss’ financial commitment. If he fires LD now, LD gets his last year of salary plus ownership has to pay the new head coach. For what? Again, the ‘12-13 team is not built to do anything special or wonderful. It is a stop-gap team, a purgatory team, a lame duck team, so it should have a lame duck head coach to lead it.”

AJ, I can agree to this stop-gap logic if we are on the plan of not competing for a championship this year. If you are considering a run at the trophy, LD can’t be your man, 1M or no 1M. We’ve wasted way more than 1M over the years that BK and Sund were here.
If you don’t have the proper system in place, how are you going to know what guys to bring here?
LD is about sharing the ball, running his Princeton offense and what looks like little flexibility to play differently. I see us shooting a lot of long jumpers which you die by (ask OKC), and never attacking a team’s weaknesses. We play caution ball, but we do have to have top talent to attack with. So what we have gotten maybe has been the best we could have expected.

Our defense appeared to be highly ranked and our offense was good when the jumpers were falling. I don’t think we get to the FT line enough. That’s how OKC and MIA get a lot of points.
OKC was ranked 2nd in FTA behind DEN, MIA 8th and they settle for a lot of jumpers.
The Hawks were 21st, tied WASH at 21 FTA/game. OKC is getting 6 more pts/game than we are at the charity stripe.

Now based on our current roster, who’s going to get you points at the line? Teague / Lou and Josh, but Josh leaves bunches of points at the FT line each year. Josh is 29th in FTA, our best Hawk in that category.
Others: Joe was 75th(pathetic), JT was 88th, Zaza 94th
Others: Lou was 35th(we might like this move more and more every day)
Tyreke Evans – 45th
Rudy Gay – 46th

Getting those last 3 on the same team isn’t that much of a reach. I know Al is not included here, but he’s not much of a FTA person either.
(ranked 112th in 2010-11)…pathetic once again.

I hope Danny isn’t done dealing.

Melvin

August 1st, 2012
4:51 pm

I would prefer to see the Hawks take a chane on Blatche… Low risk, high reward….

Najeh Davenpoop

August 1st, 2012
5:05 pm

“And isn’t Sofoklis some Muppet character?”

I thought he was an ancient Greek playwright

ryan

August 1st, 2012
5:07 pm

If D12 is traded out west LA or Houston is Evans and Gay a possibility for the Hawks would not mind having those players Yi may not be a bad choice ether we have the money would like to see some big moves down the road .

Grandad

August 1st, 2012
5:34 pm

I watched Benson closely during all 5 Summer League games.
His play was disappointing at best.
He started strong but his effort and more importantly his energy
tailed off dramatically.
His shot-blocking [supposedly his forte] was non-existent.

I will add that I was disappointed with Mike Scott as well.

I hope we are one of the teams negotiating with S.Machado.
* [he does not wish to play behind Lin]

Yi, however, would be low risk high reward;
much like A.B.

-note-
understand … I was really pullin` for Benson & Scott
perhaps D-League affilliate-
will give us a chance to develop thoase kinds of players

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
5:37 pm

AJ, I can agree to this stop-gap logic if we are on the plan of not competing for a championship this year.

Kevin, there is NOTHING about this roster that suggests Ferry is making a run at a title this year. NOTHING. Do you really think that Ferry was able to gut the team for the purpose of clearing cap space for next summer AND improve the roster at the same time? As currently constructed, we will look to defend SGs and SFs in the league (the two positions that feature some of the most lethal offensive weapons capable of creating their own shot) with a combination of Morrow, Jenkins, Lou Williams, Korver, Josh and Stevenson. Stevenson is one dimensional and can’t likely play more than 15 minutes/game. Josh is sub-optimized chasing SFs around the court. Odds are high that we will watch some career scoring nights from opposing SGs and SFs this coming season. So again, I ask, what is it about this roster that looks ready to compete for a Finals appearance.

Kevin, LD is an average head coach on his best day. I am in no way defending his competency. I am simply saying that the time to make a change is not now… this is a roster in transition. These 1-year FAs are auditioniong for long-term contracts in the future. Many of them are more likely headed toward the year-to-year phase of their careers. IMO, we’re looking at a 42 win team if everything goes right.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
5:40 pm

if Ferry is trying to establish any type of winning culture, Audray Blatche would be a mockery to that sentiment. The Wizards paid him to not come to the arena. the Wizards. If we simply want a low risk/high reward project to play with… go sign Greg Oden to a 2-year deal with a team option.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
5:43 pm

STEVEW-I believe it was before FA started, but I read where the Hawks had Gee high on their radar. And what has Yi done lately to warrant a contract? He’s regressed from a starter to a D-League caliber bench warmer. We don’t need anymore of that because Ferry won’t have it.

KevinM

August 1st, 2012
5:43 pm

If Houston decides they don’t like Harrellson as a backup to Asik, Danny should go get him. He has a knack for rebounding and getting his hands dirty. A good cheap backup, and better than Yi from what I’ve seen out of 4 years of Yi.
Harrellson has to be released by 8/15 or Houston owes him 762K.

And Yi was being considered by us to be drafted in Al’s slot in ‘07. I didn’t remember that Al was picked one slot behind KD and 1 slot ahead of Conley, 3 slots ahead of Yi.

Aside of Marc Gasol(48th to the Lakers), BK got that draft pick right!

Slim

August 1st, 2012
5:50 pm

Some people call themselves fans, no need to panic the boys will be just fine. I recall during last season josh was the true leader on the team, duh, why do you think he took the last shot in game six, joe didn’t want it, also during joe’s abscene, josh clearly dominated, there was better ball movement, and everybody ate. Although I going to miss joe, josh will average around 24, 26 points per, hell he may get a few more triple-doubles this year, we now have better shooters and more space for josh and al to operate. Joe missed, I think three games with the knee before the break last season, one game that stands out is hawks vs. thunder, josh went head up with Durant, clearly dominated, this tells you he can do this every night, with joe gone he will do this every night. With better shooters on the roster, this will prove my theory to be exact. On the coaching side, I truly think LD will do a good job, hopefully the players buy in.

Sautee

August 1st, 2012
6:54 pm

new blog up

Bivinsky S

August 4th, 2012
4:58 pm

It’s amazing how we are are all self proclaimed general managers with all the needed solutions to guarantee immediate championships. How is it that we keep getting overlooked for these positions? However, I do think that Danny Ferry is proving to be a much better GM than he ever was a player. Probably the best acquisition that the Hawks have made in several years. Something tells me that we may be in for something good.

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