Atlanta Hawks: Hawks trade Willie Green for rights to Greek center Schortsanitis

Hawks GM Danny Ferry gained some more of the financial flexibility he covets by sending Willie Green to the Clippers in a sign-and-trade for the rights to Greek center Sofoklis Schortsanitis.

Schortsanitis signed a three-year contract with Athens club Panathinaikos earlier this month so chances are he won’t be joining Atlanta’s roster. The value for the Hawks in the deal is gaining a trade exception in the amount of Green’s first-year salary with the Clippers, which wasn’t immediately known.

Update: According to ESPN.com’s John Hollinger, the exception is worth between $1.65 million and $2.75 million.

A trade exception works as a sort of credit that would allow the Hawks to make a trade while over the salary cap without meeting the usual salary-matching requirements. The credit expires one year from the date of the trade.

The Clippers selected Schortsanitis in the second round of the 2003 draft. He was listed at 6-9 and 345 pounds while playing for the Clippers’ summer league entry in 2010. Schortsanitis played for Olympiacos and Maccabi before joining Panathinaikos.

Green signed with the Hawks before last season and went on to post a career-best year in scoring efficiency. His 1.04 points scored per possession (on 395 possessions used) ranked 24th in the league, according to Synergy Sports Technology.

Like pretty much every key Hawks reserve, Green struggled to score in the playoffs against the Celtics. In addition, Green’s defensive weaknesses–too slow to handle quicker opponents, too small to check bigger foes–were magnified during that series.

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terrell

July 31st, 2012
5:17 pm

HawksTarheel, what two 20 pts a game scorers did Dallas have last year?

hawksfancents95

July 31st, 2012
5:20 pm

Astro Joe
That was a great post. GM DF is set to perfection, he did the first measure which was get the support of the fan base. Now he freed up cap room while keeping us in the playoffs while having no expectations from the fans on this season. also with LD at the helm we can see what he does on a contract year where he has the pressure on himself to perform for his next gig while if we suck early theres the excuse to fire him. GM DF has a few coaches and i believe who we get will dictate who he goes after. jerry sloan would be an amazing fit if we can land dwight or another big name guy. its not like the only people we can get our the free agents in 13, look at joe johnson he got traded with four years left so big name guys can always be moved for a price.

Atlanta we are in way better shape than any of us ever would of predicted when GM DF took over. He deserves GM of the year for just his work in June.

Just Joe

July 31st, 2012
5:31 pm

Ferry should go after Yi Jianlian as a free agent. Would be a good business decision. Bring in some marketing dollars. Get the Hawks some international exposure. Yi is young still (turns 25 in October). He’s had a decent Olympics. A good low risk pickup with the veteran minimum.

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
5:43 pm

Just Joe

July 31st, 2012
5:31 pm

Ditto.

I forgot about this guy. He could be a real “darkhorse” in this whole free agent process. He is a guy who may benefit from being thrust into a rotation, much like Jeremy Lin. At 6″11″ he would be that stretch “4″ who would open up the lane.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
5:47 pm

“Bet he’ll be glad to get away from all the african immigrants in Greece that the ex-olympic sprinter was talking about. Oh wait, he’s coming to Atlanta!”

Uh… maybe you should have consulted Google Images before posting that.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
5:49 pm

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steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
5:54 pm

I would Trade Al Horford for a 1st round pick and a bucket of Fried Chicken. Would not miss his “Lax” effort on the defensive side of the Basketball! Tank this season with “2″ 1st round picks next summer. Al is NOT the answer…

Ken Strickland

July 31st, 2012
5:59 pm

There’s no way I’d take Chalmers over Teague or Harris. On that team, Chalmers is a PG in name only, since LeBron and DWade control the ball and the OFF. He hasn’t proven he can successfully function as the focal point of an OFF and control or run it as the teams true PG who controls the OFF and the ball.

Lebron and Wade are the true interior defenders on that team, and our shooters will force them to play more on the perimeter. Wade is their leading shotblocker, and Harris, Jenkins, Williams, and Morrow will force him to play our shooters rather than roaming and providing interior help DEF. Do you think LeBron will drop off Korver to help inside?

Weak DEF players like Korver don’t have to try and stop players as big, strong and athletic as LeBron. He just has to try and take away certain things that he does well and force him to do something else that he’s less effective at doing. Instead of trying to stop him from driving, he should give ground and force him to become a midrange shooter, which he’s not good at doing.

Drew has to adjust our DEF where we play a combination of intelligent and good team DEF.

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
5:59 pm

Cal Bowdler has 228 followers and Google Search: Cal Bowdler says the love he shares with his wife, Brooke, is what 99 percent of people search for and never find.

Meanwhile ajc runs a story about a mom who starved her own preteen to death and the gov’t that didn’t care.

Which is sadder?

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:01 pm

sigh, Back to the subject at hand – bball. Dominic McGuire, the SF/PF that locked Joe up lol. He’s a guy you know can guard.

He asking for the vet min? Then get him. Barely hanging on in the league I think

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:05 pm

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:06 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vrWfafkaI
This one’s more accurate and appropriate with that Luva luva boi from Georgia providing the soundtrack.

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
6:09 pm

I’d like Yi (he’s been playing center). But honestly No way Yi’s agent settles for the vet min.
Yi was just carrying the Olympic flag for China.

vava74

July 31st, 2012
6:13 pm

“Cal Bowdler has 228 followers and Google Search: Cal Bowdler says the love he shares with his wife, Brooke, is what 99 percent of people search for and never find”

How can this be sad? Do you think happiness is measure by the number of tweeter followers or the success of a sports career?

Look at the happiness that football sucess gave to Junior Seau (an example amongst many).

You just a kid – or a youngster I am sure – but you should start to get your head right as for now.

Twitter is a SAD and pathetic scheme to profit from people’s sad sack attention hunger.

Sautee

July 31st, 2012
6:15 pm

“I would Trade Al Horford for a 1st round pick and a bucket of Fried Chicken. Would not miss his “Lax” effort on the defensive side of the Basketball!” – steven a smith

Hey steven, FYI:

In 2011 (Horford’s last full season) Al received 7 votes for the NBA-All-Defensive team, including 3 first place votes. He had the same number of overall votes as Josh, but Josh only had 1 first place vote (a travesty). He had more votes than Battier, Ibaka, and Sefalosha, all noted defensive players.

So at least 4 NBA head coaches disagree with your view of Horford’s defense. Pretty good results for all that lax effort, eh?

here’s the link: http://www.examiner.com/article/2011-all-defensive-team-announced

KevinM

July 31st, 2012
7:00 pm

I’m going to say it again….if Al Jefferson was worth 2 1st round picks for Utah, Josh and Al have at least that much value.

“The Timberwolves agreed to send Jefferson to the Jazz for two future first-round draft picks and center Kosta Koufos.”

On a twisted note, Utah had to send back one of Minny’s draft picks this year because Utah qualified for the playoffs. So the Jefferson deal ends up being 1 1st round and Koufos.
So yes, Josh and Al are at least worth the value of what that Jefferson deal ended up being.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 31st, 2012
7:01 pm

Wow, everyone is on the serious tip today. The Cal Bowdler post was just an offhand remark, people. No need to get all existential about it.

Pot Head Unit!!

July 31st, 2012
7:24 pm

“Al vs. Bosh – Probably somewhere around a draw. Most would probably rate Bosh slightly higher – but some did see some slippage in Bosh this past season.”

pointguardslim

July 31st, 2012
7:27 pm

“Al vs. Bosh – Probably somewhere around a draw. Most would probably rate Bosh slightly higher – but some did see some slippage in Bosh this past season.”

Hard not to see it.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnLDlXRYfExKSKd-rUn23P7PPVXGIXXgrmtGLXYKyJ45955jDwmGCwFPdp

Pot Heads Unit!!

July 31st, 2012
7:28 pm

Teague is every bit as good as Michael Jordan and Al horford is as good as Moses Malone, and we are going to win a championship with these two.

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
7:45 pm

There is no way the hawks are going any where with Al on your team. Al sucks. He is sorry and lazy. He is a scrub and a whining loser.

PLEASE GET THIS SLOUCH OF OUR TEAM SO WE CAN GET OUT OF THE SECOND ROUND FOR A CHANGE!!!

True Hawk

July 31st, 2012
7:49 pm

Man! It doesn’t take much to get y’all bowing at Danny Ferry’s feet does it? Y’all act like we have been a playoff team for a long time instead of new to the game, which we are. Some of us have been around here long enough to be sick and tired of the constant rebuilding, often on the cheap. I don’t expect I’ll be getting a lot of value for my season ticket money this year.

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
7:59 pm

Notice all the Al supports must use Josh in there attempt to help Al’s value rise. What a Joke.

Josh can stand on his own. Al is not in Josh’s league nor does Al mean as much to the team as Josh.

This is a much better team with out Al than with him. We really dont need Al. He ruins the teams chemistry. Hes peaked and we will never get out of the seconds round as long as Al is on this team. GEE

We have this same conversation ever year. Al is part of the problem not part of the solution. Al and Marvin both should be traded.

Dept. Of Unintended Irony

July 31st, 2012
8:03 pm

“Hes peaked and we will never get out of the seconds round as long as Al is on this team.”

How about the minutes round? The hours round? Days?

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
8:10 pm

Sautee

July 31st, 2012
6:15 pm

If Al is not traded, I think he would be a quality back-up PF/C for this Basketball Team! He would be Awsome coming “off” the Bench…

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
8:12 pm

Notice all the Al supports must use Josh in there attempt to help Al’s value rise. What a Joke.

Josh can stand on his own. Al is not in Josh’s league nor does Al mean as much to the team as Josh.

This is a much better team with out Al than with him. We really dont need Al. He ruins the teams chemistry. Hes peaked and we will never get out of the second round as long as Al is on this team. GEE

We have this same conversation ever year. Al is part of the problem not part of the solution. Al and Marvin both should be traded.

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
8:13 pm

A deal of Teague and Horford to Utah for Al Jefferson would probably move us past the 2nd round.
The money would definitely work.

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
8:14 pm

Al would be nice coming off the bench getting minutes at the 5 or 4

reality sets in

July 31st, 2012
8:16 pm

If Danny Ferry could pull off this trade. Atlanta would be in very good shape.

Teague and Horford to Utah for Al Jefferson would probably move us past the 2nd round.

Just Joe

July 31st, 2012
8:19 pm

Veteran minimum would be an increase for Yi. He made $770,086 playing for Dallas last year. He’ll be looking for minutes, not money.

True Clarity

July 31st, 2012
8:31 pm

Jefferson can’t protect the rim any better than Horford, shoots a lower %, and is a worse rebounder. He’s too much the same player as Horford, with a better low post game, and less of everything else. All you would be doing is ditching Teague for a basically even swap. Of course you’d be getting rid of your nemesis, so I guess that makes it ok by you. I think that’s a bad trade. I’d be shocked if Ferry didn’t agree.

steven a smith

July 31st, 2012
9:06 pm

When the Hawks drafted Al Horford, they left Mike Connley on the board. That was the same year they drafted A. C. Law III. Horrible draft that year. Huge “Missed Opportunity”

Yoop

July 31st, 2012
10:20 pm

I bet those girls at Diamonds got paid after Lou came to town lmao!

http://atlantasroyalphotography.smugmug.com/UPDATED-NIGHT-LIFE/72512-DOA-BROUGHT-TO-YOU-BY/24393051_t5Dgd2#!i=1988607925&k=JZDPHZm&lb=1&s=A

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

August 1st, 2012
2:44 am

2011-2012 2012-2013
Teague Teague
Joe Morrow
Marvin Stephenson
Jsmoove Jsmoove
Horford Horford

Hinrich Devin Harris
Zaza Zaza
Collins Petro
Mcgrady Korver
Willie Green Lou Williams
Ivan Ivan
Stackhouse Jenkins

From top to bottom this years team looks better. We got the 4th seed without Horford last year and Joe only averaged 18ppg.

vava74

August 1st, 2012
6:46 am

steven a smith
July 31st, 2012
9:06 pm

How can you be taken seriously?
I coined “Diaper Al” so I am not on Horford’s bandwagon but to say that Conley would have been a better pick tha Al is simply preposterous.
You will not find a single GM or coach in the NBA who would agree to that.
Not one.

ag

August 1st, 2012
7:27 am

vava74 – why waste your time responding to those clowns. When a person blogs we could have had Mike Conley over Al… they are truly clowns. I think they saw Al out and he refused to give them a autograph – now it is mad Al hate on these blogs.

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
9:03 am

“Danny’s being too nice keeping LD at this point.”

Nice has nothing to do with it. LD was part of the deal when Ferry took the job. When Gearon was on the phone with Ferry trying to sell him on taking this job, he told him “we like LD, we don’t want to start over with a new coach, we want him to finish the third year of his deal and evaluate after this season.”

Ferry has a 6-year contract. He’s not worried about it. LD will either prove the ASG right or prove them wrong. If he turns the corner as an NBA coach this year, Ferry doesn’t have to conduct a coaching search. Here are LD’s biggest liabilities as a coach:

1. Has a tendency to play end-of-the-bench scrubs ahead of rotation players in the playoffs.

He did this in his first year when he played Jason Collins and Josh Powell ahead of Zaza Pachulia. As you saw this season, Zaza is a legit starting center. Powell will likely never play in the NBA again. LD did it again this year by playing scrubs like Pargo and Green ahead of legitimate rotation players T-Mac and KH. In both seasons, LD’s absurd lineup decisions in the playoffs cost the Hawks an opportunity to go to the ECF. The talent was there. LD just decided to play scrubs instead of rotation players. Please note that Ferry has declined to bring ANY of LD’s pet scrubs back.

2. LD failed to hold his players accountable for not running his offense and not playing every possession on defense.

LD’s failure to hold players accountable resulted in another failed hero-ball effort by Joe against the Celtics, and resulted in Josh quitting on plays to argue with refs, which may have cost the Hawks the series against Boston. Joe is in Brooklyn now, and LD’s nose isn’t long enough to get a sniff anymore. All that remains to be seen is, will LD continue to completely fail to get Josh to play at an All-Star level. LD has been coaching Josh since his rookie season. That’s how far back this failure goes. The talent has been there, LD has simply failed to properly harness it.

3. LD gave away the second Heat game by not using the foul the Hawks had to give and allowing Bosh to tie it in regulation with a three.

LD’s not the only coach to make this mistake. SVG did it in the NBA finals, allowing Fisher to turn the tide of that series and cost Orlando the only chance it had to win a title with Dwight. It’s still a stupid mistake for any coach to make.

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
9:28 am

“Ferry should go after Yi Jianlian as a free agent.”

I like this idea. If Yi has a breakout year with the Hawks, it’s another feel-good story. I like the idea of that more than I like the idea of handing the small forward job to Barnes, an idiot who mouths off to cops while he doesn’t even have an NBA contract.

“Dominic McGuire, the SF/PF that locked Joe up lol.”

Joe scored 18 points in that game. Don’t know if DM “locked him up” but he might be a good pickup.

“A deal of Teague and Horford to Utah for Al Jefferson would probably move us past the 2nd round.”

How many All-Defensive first team votes did Al Jefferson have last year? How many All-NBA selections does he have? And you want to trade a better player for him PLUS throw in another proven starter? We all feel sorry for you, Blog Troll. We know that you have no life and all you have to cling to is your hatred of Al Horford. We just wish you’d say something original every once in a while.

Just change it up. Write that you hate Jeff Teague for a change. Trash Teague… watch all his fans rush to his defense… it will be a fun exercise. It’s just as sad reading about the girl who starved to death as it is watching you day in, day out work out your neurosis with Horford hate posts. Just sad. We’re talking Cal Bowdler twitter feed sad, man. I got a tear in my eye thinking about how tragic your life is.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
9:32 am

Don’t respond to the HORFORD HATING TRASH that hangs around these blogs posting one stupid comment after another. It appears they believe if they repeat the same stupid comments and suggestions over and over again often enough, they will convince themselves and others that their special brand of BS will somehow become factual and make sense. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!

I read an article that listed the available FA SF still on the market, and it looks like we’ll have to initiate a trade to get one that gives us what we want. The trade exception that we just got from trading WGreen might be a step in that direction. The big overweight Greek player that was mentioned in the trade won’t ever become a Hawk, nor will he likely ever play in the NBA, after not getting a shot in the 9yrs since he was drafted in 2003.

We didn’t trade for him, we traded for his rights and nothing else. Right now, it looks like JSmith will be our starting SF, but I don’t think it will happen. First, it will drastically reduce our depth and talent at backup OC. It will also limit us to having only 1 of our acquired outside shooters in the starting lineup, which would encourage Josh to shoot outside more rather than posting up.

Since the nature of the moves Ferry has made so far is based on next yr, it appears this season will be a season of evaluation, experimentation, and transition. Ferry will want to see which of our soon to be FAs will prove valuable and productive enough to be considered for resigning next yr. That will be very important with pending FAs Zaza, Josh, Teague, Harris, Morrow, Williams, Petro, and Stevenson.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
9:36 am

BUDDY GRIZZARD-Your last post to that ANAL MINDED MORON was classic, just classic. Well said young man, well said. It’s too bad it won’t be understood or appreciated by the ANAL in question.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
9:38 am

One more thing on the “fire LD now” discussion. Ferry’s moves so far have either been neutral or have improved his boss’ financial commitment. If he fires LD now, LD gets his last year of salary plus ownership has to pay the new head coach. For what? Again, the ‘12-13 team is not built to do anything special or wonderful. It is a stop-gap team, a purgatory team, a lame duck team, so it should have a lame duck head coach to lead it.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2012
9:45 am

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2012/7/30/3187886/atlanta-hawks-and-the-search-for-the-small-forward

Here’s the article that I mentioned on our pursuit of a SF in my 9:32am post.

Rusty

August 1st, 2012
11:22 am

No one should takes Steven Smith seriously,he is the master of dumb crap. LD shouldn’t be here..al & JT are good players ,what’s with all these people here.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
11:43 am

Where would Yi play (assuming Ivan stays)?

Slimjr

August 1st, 2012
11:56 am

Worldwide: Stackhouse followed ISO Joe say it aint so and signed with the vava’s team, the [Crooklyn Nets]..

I believe Collins is gone elsewhere too?

T-Mac is not coming back as long as Drew is coaching them…..

“Shoot the J! Shoot it!” Dave Chappell

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
12:01 pm

“a lame duck team, so it should have a lame duck head coach to lead it.”

Somebody suggested Danny Ferry will give LD enough rope to hang himself. Actually, I think Ferry is putting LD in the best possible position to succeed. By removing Collins, Green, Pargo, Damp, Stack and Vlad from the rotation, Ferry takes away the temptation LD couldn’t resist, to give minutes to terrible players. Ferry’s arrival could be the best thing that could have possibly happened to LD’s career. If LD fails this year, he may never get another HC position. Ferry has made it more likely LD will succeed.

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
12:03 pm

“Where would Yi play (assuming Ivan stays)?”

I would start Ivan at PF and Josh at SF. It would probably be more diplomatic at this point for LD to start Zaza and move Al to PF. Al and Ivan split backup C minutes, Ivan, Yi and Josh split backup PF minutes and Ivan and Yi split backup SF minutes.

Astro Joe

August 1st, 2012
12:18 pm

Twin Collins signed with the Celtics (I think).

Buddy Grizzard

August 1st, 2012
12:53 pm

doc

August 1st, 2012
12:56 pm

durn made my day, someone mention Yi Jianlian? what a coup of having both al and yi in same lineup with josh between them. i think yi is ready to grab the moment. anyone see his you tube stuff form china? what a player!

heh heh

for you aj.