Updated: Hawks acquire Korver

Vivlamore filling in for M.C.

Kyle Korver is the latest shooter being stockpiled on an ever-changing Hawks’ roster.

A trade for Korver, a guard known for his 3-point shooting, was completed Monday. The Hawks  acquired the veteran from the Bulls for cash considerations.

“I appreciate the toughness and the competitive energy Kyle brings to the game every night, and we’re very excited to add

him to our team.” Danny Ferry, Hawks President of Basketball Operations/GM, said in a statement released by the team.  “Adding him makes shooting an even greater strength for our club.”

The deal was several days in the making. Korver was in Atlanta for a physical on Saturday.

Korver was owed a $500,000 guarantee of his $5 million non-guaranteed salary for 2012-13 by the Bulls by Sunday.

“We led the NBA in wins two years in a row, and (I) loved the personalities and chemistry we had,” Korver told the Chicago Tribune Friday when news of the potential trade first surfaced. “The bond we had was unique. You always feel you could’ve done more, but everybody on our team gave it all we had and there’s at least some satisfaction in that.”

In 65 games for the Bulls last season, Korver averaged 8.1 points in 22.6 minutes per game. He was 10th in the NBA in 3-point percentage at .435 (118-for-271).

The Hawks have added shooters Lou Williams, Devin Harris, Anthony Morrow and first-round pick John Jenkins during the offseason.

Korver, 31, was a second-round pick (No. 51) by the Nets in the 2003 draft. He was traded to the 76ers, where he spent his first four-plus seasons. He also played for Jazz before playing the past two seasons with the Bulls.

- Chris Vivlamore

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SteveW

July 17th, 2012
10:37 am

Jet Terry – Volume scorer, undersized, not much of a defender, signs with a ECF’s team in Boston.

Nick Young – No D, volume scorer, signs a 1 year 6 million dollar contract with the Semi’s team the Sixers.

Ray Allen – 37 years old, about all he has left is catch and shoot, signs with the World Champs the Heat

Jamal Crawford, who some on this blog think is terrible, signs a 4 year 20+ million dollar deal with a WC Semi’s team the Clippers.

“No volume scorer will sign with a contender this off season, why? Because their garbage, and good teams know that.”

I wonder who said the above? At least in paraphrase?

Rod – reckon any of these bloggers are man enough to come on here and admit you were right and they were wrong?

terrell

July 17th, 2012
10:40 am

I knew Lin’s days were numbered when Woody was hired. He’s too young. lol.

The Truth

July 17th, 2012
10:43 am

“So bottom line, from what I saw, only Jenkins and Benson would make the big-league team. Scott goes to the D-League and all others kick rocks. Again, one game worth of evaluation, I have 2 more on the DVR to watch later this week.”

AJ,
My assessment as well and that’s after watching all the Hawks games (to date) via my DVR. While I agree about Scott spending time in the D-league, I do like his shooting form and BB IQ. He seems to play bigger than he really is as a PF @ 6′-8″. He just needs to build-up his confidence which will help his consistency.

Also, it’s clear after watching all the Hawks games that Benson has been their best player and that includes Jenkins which I also like.

pointguardslim

July 17th, 2012
10:48 am

Jason Eugene Terry won a championship and was a monster in the Finals a year ago.
Go check his historic advanced numbers versus Joe Johnson. WS/48, true shooting% etc.

Ray Allen…is a hall of Famer. For the vet min? Where do I sign up.

Nick Young…is the 6′6 replacement for Lou Williams, whom Iguodala dissed.

Jamal Crawford signing is a bad one judging off last year in my opinion. But if Crawford can reclaim his catch and shoot ability and role which he did in his 1st year in a Hawks uni, and do less stagnating iso. Then he’ll be a good fit. I don’t know if his defense is deteriorating though…

At least the other guys can put their body into you,

pointguardslim

July 17th, 2012
10:50 am

Mike Scott plays bigger than 6′8? Maybe cuz he’s 6′9.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mike-Scott-6482/stats/

average length suggests bad defense. I want Kyle O’Quinn, Please bring him in if he’s unsigned.

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
10:53 am

Lou Williams PER – 20.22

Joe Johnson PER – 18.50

Lou Williams Contract – 3 years, 15.7 mill.

Joe Johnson Contract – 4 years, 89+ mill remaining

Lou Williams 25 years old

Joe Johnson 31 years old

Thanks Danny Ferry, I’m sold!

Astro Joe

July 17th, 2012
10:57 am

Funny, when I thinnk about our bigs, I always forget about Petro. So Horford, Josh, Zaza, Ivan and Petro appear to be locked in. Throw in Keith Benson and one guy with bulk (e.g., Collins or Damp) and I think we’re done.

The Truth, yeah, Scott definitely has a nice offensive skill set and is worth the effort to develop. If Josh walks next summer, Scott could be ready to provide some PF depth in 2013 (but again, I don’t see him as a key contributor on an NBA team). I was impressed with Benson’s performance against Sullinger and Melo. Not that those guys are Ben and Rasheed Wallace from a few years ago, but they are certainly competent defenders and Benson didn’t have any problems getting off good shots and getting good position aginst them.

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
10:58 am

PGS – And your point?

JET is what he is regardless of what you posted.

Ray Allen signed for the Mid Level (mini) at 3 + mill, not the Vet. Min.

So Iggy disses Lou, and the sign a worse player for more money? Your point?

And Jamal being a bad signing is your opinion, no basis of fact.

Wasn’t it your point that Jon Leuer was the missing piece for the Hawks or something also?

Astro Joe

July 17th, 2012
10:58 am

pointguardslim, O’Quinn was drafted by the Magic and had some good Summer League games in Orlando last week.

doc

July 17th, 2012
10:58 am

Pgs i thought i was agreeing with you. Those times that josh was in that situaion were minimal, not everytime he got the ball which is what i consider double teams. Josh only fell prey to the trap in very limited circumstances the point i was making and teams easily took the ball from him and negated any presence of this going forward in a game. Most players by design will fall into traps but are not subject to constant attention like jj did, really the only guy on our team that needed this amount of attention. It is also why our offense deteriorated so late in games or crucial times.

To clarify my point, if josh required a double and jj as well then we would have been able to free up others which never happened. Almost any player can be trapped by his own poor play and the opponents defensive scheme but i dont consider it a double team but help defense when it is transitory and fluid. It wasnt like everytime josh got the ball he got the attention of two players, whereas jj often faced this no matter where he got the ball, a true double up. Josh got no attention from anyone from ten feet out. Of course spacing makes it more difficult in the former trap situation and why perimeter shooters are part of the plan that df seems to be plotting.

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:01 am

Hows those Hasheem Thabeet advanced stats working out for ya’?

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:06 am

PGS – So your saying JET plays defense? I thought we were talking volume scorers here.

And JET’s 34, lost a step or two, and still gets the Full Mid Level – from a good winning organization.

I’d just admit I was wrong and move on. Much easier than defending the Titanic, saying it’s unsinkable, as it lies at the bottom of the ocean.

Couldn’t the Sixers have replaced Lou (2nd in 6th man of the year voting) with a strong defender instead of 6 mill for Nick Young? Since guys like Young are worthless? And Collins is such a strong, defensive minded Coach?

vava74

July 17th, 2012
11:13 am

SteveW,

I think PHI will struggle next year.

Brand did not put great “visible” numbers but was a worker inside and Lou was their dynamo.

Young is very talented but plays absolute zero D, does not pass, rebound, …

Lou did all those things, albeit the fact that he is not a good defender at all.

O'Brien

July 17th, 2012
11:17 am

Carmelo went 1 for 7 (0 for 4 from 3 point land) and 1 for 3 from the FT against Brazil in 17 minutes, totalling 3 points, 4 rebounds and
3 fouls.

Carmelo was playing with high quality teammates – logically his task was made easy by this fact. Carmelo was playing against a team (Brazil) which is undoubtly less talented than Team USA, another factor making his life easy..

Rod from CP,

You killed Horford because he struggled against team USA. So how do you feel about Carmelo’s game last night? Carmelo must not be that good then, because he is not only a multiple all-star, he is all-NBA.

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:17 am

The fact is the statement was made more than once, by more than one blogger, when contending about the worthlessness of scorers in the NBA, is that just watch, since D and rebounding wins in the NBA, that these scorers would end up on non-playoff teams, because good organizations don’t sign players like that.

Wrong.

Inarguably great organizations know the value of putting the ball in the hoop, unlike some bloggers on here. They have their place in the NBA game.

D wins in the NFL also – but the Falcons moved heaven and earth to acquire a playmaking WR named Julio Jones.

Same concept.

O'Brien

July 17th, 2012
11:18 am

Wow. 2 years, $24 mil for Humphries. He got more annually, but they only gave him 2 years. I thought he would get 3 years, $30 mil.

O'Brien

July 17th, 2012
11:20 am

Give me Pietrus and one other player at SF (Chills, Barnes, whoever).

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:22 am

Vava – I liked Brand (not for that money of course) but he was a load inside. Killed the Hawks that last game we should have won up in Philly.

And I don’t even like Nick Young – not at all as a BB player.

But the point was that scorers would not be signed by good teams this off season – and not only were they signed by good teams, they were signed at a premium. 6 mill for Nick Young? Give me a break.

Now Philly could have signed say Damien Wilkens, or tons of other lock down wings for far less.

But Doug Collins and Rod Thorn know you have to have players who put the ball in the hoop, so they sign Nick Young for 6 mill for a season.

That’s the point

BIG DOG

July 17th, 2012
11:25 am

Nets could now be the team to beat.

D William, Joe, Gerald, Humphries, Lopez

NBA Titles for Brooklyn ?

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

DS

July 17th, 2012
11:26 am

So as of right now, the Nets have abour $76MM tied to 5 players: JJ $20MM, DW $19MM, Lopez $13MM, Humphries $12MM, Wallace $9MM. I think they also added Teletovic and CJ Watson for about $3MM each. This russian guy is gonna pay the luxury tax to cover for all the “losses” in the NBA!

BIG DOG

July 17th, 2012
11:27 am

Danny need to sign Pietrus, Hawks have no SF except Josh.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

DS

July 17th, 2012
11:29 am

^Should say $73MM

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:30 am

And did I mention those same 2011 World Champs the Mavs – Just signed scorer O J Mayo? A Championship club with Dirk Nowitzki, Shawn Marion and an Owner like Mark Cuban, a Coach like Rick Carlisle – signs a scorer like OJ Mayo.

Must be because another scorer name Jason Eugen Terry had such a great Championship series a little over a year ago – so this great organization knows the value of a scorer.

Just a thought.

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:32 am

OB – 12 mill per year is good money no matter how you slice it.

Kris Humphries is officially making as much per year as Al Horford.

And yes, if I heard the Hawks signed Pietrus, Delfino, Barnes or Randolph, I would like that. I’ve always like Pietrus game – and Barnes for that matter.

BIG DOG

July 17th, 2012
11:33 am

Hawks 2013

Teague, Korver, Josh, Horford, Zaza

Lou, Harris, Morrow, Ivan, Collins

Jenkins, Stevenson, Petro

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

MsDee

July 17th, 2012
11:33 am

Dang, I would have loved to have Keith Bogans..that dude can play some DEFENSE! Not a bad shooter either. The Nets will be making some noise next season.

SteveW

July 17th, 2012
11:34 am

Eugene of course has an “e” on the end of it. Just thought I would admit my error, correct it and go on…

heat check

July 17th, 2012
11:37 am

Danny Ferry, when asked by Chris Webber what his initial impressions were of Larry Drew: “Well, Larry’s just a really, really good guy.”

Uh oh………so long, LD.

vava74

July 17th, 2012
11:40 am

SteveW,

There is a rare breed of players who are scorers but are disciplined enough to at least make a decent effort on D.

Jet Terry was/is one of them. According to 82games.com Lou – in spite of Igoudala’s words – seem to be another (I sure hope he is).

OJ Mayo is a decently balanced player too with margin to progress.

Crawford and Nick Young do not belong to the balanced group IMO.

Lets not forget as well that Jet always plays with fire and, again, IMO, Crawford and Nick Young seem more the “laid back” type of scorer that make things look effortless because they are so gifted that indeed, they are not used to put any effort and, on D, effort is 50% of the game.

As for your analogy with football and Julio… I don’t understand it because in football and in particular in some positions, you are either attacking or defending, so Julio does not even need to think about D apart from an occasional block here and there.

Rod from College Park

July 17th, 2012
11:42 am

SteveW,

“Rod – reckon any of these bloggers are man enough to come on here and admit you were right and they were wrong?”

None of these clowns will ever admit they are wrong or give credit when it is due. I does not bother me. I told everyone what would happen with this years Hawks team before we even got to the playoffs, and it happened exactly as I stated. I told everyone that Marvin was a bum 4 years ago and I was correct again. I argued with these same clowns about Josh Smith being better than Marvin Williams for almost two years. Those who were here know. I glad you remember.

vava74

July 17th, 2012
11:46 am

Rod,

Very convenient for you that Al was out for the whole year, Zaza was down for the whole playoffs and Josh got injured in Game 2…

:-D

None of that matters for you! A gunner would have made the difference!!! :-D

Rod from College Park

July 17th, 2012
11:50 am

“Rod from CP,

You killed Horford because he struggled against team USA. So how do you feel about Carmelo’s game last night? Carmelo must not be that good then, because he is not only a multiple all-star, he is all-NBA.”

The difference with me is that I have been giving him a hard time since last year in the playoffs when Orlando and Chicago took his heart, and stole his game. I actually like Horford, but I realize that he is overated, and very easy to shut down offensively. If he will work on some post moves, he can actually become a better player, but as long as he continues to depend on mid range jumpshots, he can be shut down offensively. Carmelo is a scorer. Horford is not. Scorers have bad games often. (See Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, Lou Williams, James Harden…..). Horford has become easy to defend simply because he has not developed any sort of post game. I don’t think that he is a bad player, I just know that NBA teams, scouts and other players have figured out how to shut him down. He need to adjust his game now.

Rod from College Park

July 17th, 2012
11:54 am

“Rod,

Very convenient for you that Al was out for the whole year, Zaza was down for the whole playoffs and Josh got injured in Game 2…”

Jeff Green, Ray Allen, and Jermaine O’Neal were out for the Celtics. Whats your point? We lost most of the Celtics game s by a few points. If you don’t think having another guy that could put the ball in the hole, and make the defense account for him would have helped, there is no need to continue debating with you. Rondo would have done no more damage on Jamal than he did on Teague and Hinrich. Avery Bradley would have gotten abused.

MsDee

July 17th, 2012
11:57 am

@heat check

I thk he is out too, maybe thats why Lester Conner is being interviewed for a future head coaching position to Portland.

MsDee

July 17th, 2012
12:01 pm

Oh no, say it isn’t so, Danny. Not another guard???

“Free-agent point guard Jonny Flynn worked out with for the Cavaliers on Monday, and there remains strong interest on both sides. Flynn has battled hip injuries in the past, but is healthy now and making a tour of NBA camps. He has already worked out for the Cavs, Chicago Bulls and Atlanta Hawks and has more teams on the schedule. He isn’t close to making a decision, according to a source close to Flynn. Akron Beacon Journal

Just Joe

July 17th, 2012
12:07 pm

Hilton Armstrong last night in his summer league game: 11 pts, 9 boards, and 4 blocks.

Better than Benson?

hawksfancents95

July 17th, 2012
12:11 pm

brian shaw needs to be head coach here. LD is bottom 5 coach in the NBA. this team won based on talent, we played wrong guys at wrong times last year like AL 1st off the bench against boston in the playoffs when he came back instead of just starting him, it ruined ivan because he was playing well. also leaving pargo out there for stretches because he’d hit a 3 and sit teague for to long.
we need a coach that will limit the rotation to 8 or 9, 10 if foul trouble or a specialty player is needed.

i like a.randolph and i see why some dont see him playing SF because itd be ideal if he and josh were in together so they could both weakside rebound while zaza blocks out the opposing C, rebounds=possesions and we need to have more possesions than the other team and anthony is so long and pretty athletic he can be the third rebounder for spurts. offensively he is not much of a scoring option but he knows that and will take efficient shots and offensive rebound. plus he and josh can switch and cover smaller 3’s and taller 4’s no problem, thats why he’d be an asset.

The Truth

July 17th, 2012
12:26 pm

I’m interested to know what Jordan Williams 6′-10″ 260 lbs PF(acquired from the Nets) brings to to Hawks. Nice size

vava74

July 17th, 2012
12:26 pm

Rod,

Soooo funny, as usual.

Jermaine was as important to the Celts last year as Tree Rollins was for the Hawks. Zero, nada. His absence was for them a plus, not a minus.

On the contrary, Zaza was our work horse and his absence was a huge blow.

Clear advantage for the Hawks in the importance of the loss of man power.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt on the Green/Al match up, giving us a slight advantage due to the fact that Al played two games, although limited.

So, slight advantage for the Celtics here (but mind that Green is not as important for the Celtics as Al is for the Hawks).

Allen / Josh – both wobbled with Josh played 1 games and 3 quarters healthy and missed 1 game and played 3 very limited, against Allen missing 2 games and being limited in 4 games in which he was not 100%.

Advantage Hawks if you consider the importance of Josh in comparison with the importance of Allen.

Given that the series was mostly close with the exception of 1 game, I have no doubt that we would have won it with just, either Zaza able to perform at normal level or with Josh not going down.

vava74

July 17th, 2012
12:28 pm

The Truth
July 17th, 2012
12:26 pm

He brings a huge food and beverage bill every single day. He looks at least 290lbs right now.

The Truth

July 17th, 2012
12:35 pm

“He brings a huge food and beverage bill every single day. He looks at least 290lbs right now” – vava

LOL, where did you see him?

steven a smith

July 17th, 2012
12:42 pm

it is nice to see a roster void of Joe “average joe” Johnson. The only thing that could have made this sweeter would have been Joe also being jettisoned or shipped to Utah!!! hasta la vista Joe!

MsDee

July 17th, 2012
12:44 pm

Marc J. Spears: Lakers pushing hard to land Magic center Dwight Howard & meeting with Magic today,sources tell Y! LAL wants DH contract extension commitment Twitter

MsDee

July 17th, 2012
12:45 pm

Come on Danny, dont let Dwight slip out of your hands

MsDee

July 17th, 2012
12:47 pm

If those Lakers get him, he WONT be leaving there no time soon, esp with Kobe and now Nash.
DANG-GET BOY!!

Mike C.

July 17th, 2012
12:48 pm

Come on, for that to happen that Byunm must always have a contract extension as well. I dont think he would sign in Orlando, if LAL does get him, Josh would be shopped to the Rockets.

Astro Joe

July 17th, 2012
12:49 pm

MsDee, we don’t have PG depth behind Teague & Harris. And if Harris is trade bait until the February deadline, then we definitely need more than an undrafted project on the squad.

I mentioned at the beginning of this blog the notion of trading Korver later to a legit contender for a draft pick. I don’t think the Nets have much “sniper depth” and they will likely be a legit contender. Also, I think they have an extra pick they were hoping to use for a Dwight trade.

Hawkordinator

July 17th, 2012
12:50 pm

Kile Korver, Not bad…thats lil more upgrade there!

steven a smith

July 17th, 2012
12:52 pm

Can Josh Smith guard Lebron James??? Can Al Horford guard Chris Bosh???

Astro Joe

July 17th, 2012
1:01 pm

Interesting speculation on the terms of Humphries new contract in relation to D12.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47923/to-make-sense-of-nets-deal-look-south