Atlanta Hawks: Hawks agree to terms with free-agent guard Louis Williams
The Hawks and free-agent guard Lou Williams have agreed to a multiyear contract, according to a person with knowledge of the agreement.
Terms of the deal were not immediately known but the Hawks likely will sign Williams by using part of their mid-level salary-cap exception. The person with knowledge of the deal said the contract would allow the Hawks to maintain the salary-cap flexibility they gained by recently agreeing to trade Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams.
Williams opted out of the final year of his contract with Philadelphia, which was to pay him $5.4 million in 2012-13.
The deal can’t become official until the NBA’s moratorium on most transactions ends Wednesday.
Williams, 25, is a former star at South Gwinnett High school, where he was a two-time Mr. Basketball winner and a McDonald’s All-American. After committing to Georgia, he decided to declare for the 2005 draft and was selected by Philadelphia in the second round. He played in 455 games with Philadelphia, mostly as a reserve.
Williams figures to fill a similar bench-scoring role with the Hawks. Once Atlanta completes the trades involving Johnson and Williams and secures a buyout of Jordan Farmar, the team will have five guards on the roster in addition to Williams: Jeff Teague, Devin Harris, Anthony Morrow, John Jenkins and DeShawn Stevenson.
Williams led the Sixers in scoring last season with 14.9 points in 26.3 minutes per game and posted team-best PER marks in the past two seasons. He finished second to Thunder guard James Harden in voting for the 2011-12 NBA Sixth Man Award.
Williams is smallish combo guard who’s a volume shooter with a so-so jump shot. But he manages to be a fairly efficient scorer because of a very good free-throw rate. Last season Williams ranked sixth in scoring rate among point guards who played at least 25 minutes per game.
The Sixers allowed 3.38 fewer points per 100 possessions with Williams on the bench. Williams had a 12.1 opposing PER against against point guards and 11.9 against shooting guards.
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terrell
July 10th, 2012
6:37 pm
Cost less than half of Joe, getsbuckets like Joe, and brings his superstar friends t Philips unlike Joe. Great move!
terrell
July 10th, 2012
6:37 pm
“to”
Barton
July 10th, 2012
6:39 pm
Louuuuuuuuuuuu!
Love this pick up. Can’t wait to hear that in Philips.
terrell
July 10th, 2012
6:39 pm
The BEST scorer on the team coming off the bench??
Kevin Hawk
July 10th, 2012
6:40 pm
This is a great signing! Lou Williams is REALLY good. Nice job Ferry!
terrell
July 10th, 2012
6:40 pm
As long as its not Ryan Cameron saying it Barton.
Kevin Hawk
July 10th, 2012
6:41 pm
This signing def shows that the Hawks will still remain very competitve this season.
James
July 10th, 2012
6:41 pm
This is pleasing news. Assuming the Hawks aren’t trying to overpay, Williams will help provide that spark off the bench and another dynamic scorer to help fill the void left by Johnson’s departure.
I would assume that we could be filling a bench role similar to that of Jamal Crawford in the past. I’m just happy to see a general manager being proactive and looking to shake up the team. This roster is going to look very different at the start of next season, compared to previous seasons. We appear to be revamping things significantly and changing the makeup of the team. These aren’t just veteran minimum signings that we are talking about anymore. The players being acquired thus far as are definitely impact players who can make a difference. I like Devin Harris, although he seems less explosive than in previous years, and I like the creative/dynamic nature of Lou Williams. I also like the toughness of guys like DeShawn Stevenson. I know we are taking a step back in some ways, but I actually like some of these signings and feel like it’s going to be much more interesting to watch this team next season. It will finally feel fresh and interesting. No more watching the same, repetitive Hawks year after year.
Good Job, Mr. Ferry.
Rob
July 10th, 2012
6:42 pm
If we sign anyone else, I hope its Gerald Green
James
July 10th, 2012
6:42 pm
Correction on my last post: I would assume that *he* (Williams) will be filling a bench role…
Blue
July 10th, 2012
6:42 pm
When you see smoke there is a fire. A big trade is coming with the hawks
hmmmm.........
July 10th, 2012
6:42 pm
About time MC
Clayton
July 10th, 2012
6:42 pm
I believe Lou is also friends with Josh Smith and Anthony Morrow. Put 2 and 2 together and it looks like the Hawks are trying to bring all of D12’s friends here in hopes of enticing him to come to Atlanta and sign long-term. If we use the mid-level on Lou then we can still resign Smooth, Howard and make a pitch to CP3.
Rod from College Park
July 10th, 2012
6:43 pm
“Rod from CP – Your my Boy but are you saying the Hawks shouldn’t sign CP3 in 2013 ?”
No. Not saying I don’t want him, I just don’t think he will leave LA to come here.
MikeH
July 10th, 2012
6:43 pm
Makes the ATL the place to be seen….Changes the landscape for athletes as the stars are going to be coming out for Josh, Lou, Morrow, and maybe D. Howard
Remidtown
July 10th, 2012
6:44 pm
Like this pickup a lot. Will LOVE IT if it is a precursor to another, more significant move. And one would have to believe it will be with all the guards on the current roster. Trade Al, Devin, and maybe Stevenson plus some picks for D12 and I’ll be very happy.
Still need a SF though.
richy
July 10th, 2012
6:44 pm
this is a tremendous signing. Cheap offense is always good. Just get a small foward and we can compete
Buddy Grizzard
July 10th, 2012
6:44 pm
So hey guys I was checking out the mock lottery at nbadraft.net. You know, cause so many on this blog have said that the Hawks were a lottery team without Ball Stopper Joe and The Duck. How do you think Nerlens Noel would look in a Hawks uniform? Do you think we will be picking high enough?
kbb
July 10th, 2012
6:45 pm
Y does Mike always shut down blogs before they get good?
myrak43
July 10th, 2012
6:45 pm
Lou is believe to agreed to the mid-level…. great
the big Three of the ‘A”
Lou
Smoove
Superman
lets get it done
J.J.M.
July 10th, 2012
6:45 pm
Clayton took the words out my mouth
myrak43
July 10th, 2012
6:45 pm
here is the link
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8154295/source-guard-lou-williams-reaches-agreement-atlanta-hawks
JoeJohnson2
July 10th, 2012
6:46 pm
Haha enjoy this inefficient chucker,lmao 14 points on 40% shooting,you’ll never replace me
Lou Williams
July 10th, 2012
6:48 pm
I cost less than 25% of Joe and can produce at about 90% of Joe’s level. Good move for the Hawks !
hmmmm.........
July 10th, 2012
6:49 pm
I Know D12 is an ubertalent but he’s a whiny a$$h*le. Remember when he came into the league he wanted to replace the logo with a cross and then he goes and has a baby out of wedlock pays babymamma to keep it quiet, then gets upset when it comes out. Not to mention publicly mocking his coach going behind the coaches back to get him fired and then denies it.
Remidtown
July 10th, 2012
6:50 pm
JJ2……at 25% of the cost I’ll enjoy Lou quite well thanks. The problem for me wasn’t JJ’s production (although inefficient) it was directly related to his cost and the corresponding inflexibility it left the Hawks with.
Barton
July 10th, 2012
6:50 pm
@ Terrell – haha probably have to agree with you there. Not sure how we’re going to stop him though…
Glenn
July 10th, 2012
6:51 pm
We need a big more than another small shooter.
Michael Cunningham
July 10th, 2012
6:51 pm
@hmmm: “About time MC”
if you are not satisfied with the speed in which blogs are posted, you can always ask for a refund.
jay
July 10th, 2012
6:52 pm
hopefully they bring his whiny arze here, bud. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. C’mon Ferry!
This Gets Old
July 10th, 2012
6:52 pm
Like it or not it says something about ownership if guys from Atlanta don’t want to play in Atlanta. Hopefully that’s changing.
jay
July 10th, 2012
6:52 pm
lol @ MC going in!
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
6:52 pm
Hawks aren’t a lottery team Grizzard.
Unless they try to play a 4 guard-forward backcourt again. Yikes. Josh for 3! Spread em (out)!
High-sider
July 10th, 2012
6:53 pm
@Rod from College Park
Rod from College Park
July 10th, 2012
5:18 pm
Lou Williams = a young Jamal Crawford. I’m all for it. I hate to tell you guys this, but this Dwight thing might really be real. If the Lou Williams thing is true, I know that he, Josh and Dwight are all from the A and good friends. There might be a A-Town resurgence going on with guys that really are from the A. The last time some real A-towners banded together we got the Dungeon Family with Outkast, Goodie Mob, C-Lo. Rise up Dirty South.
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I was thinking the same thing about the A-T-L connection between Dwight Howard, Josh Smith and Lou Williams. If Danny Ferry is able to pull off a deal that brings Howard to the Hawks, I will have to give Ferry his props for that bit of maneuvering. Right now, the Hawks are a little “thick” at the scoring/shooting guard position. One of the (current) Hawks’ guards will definitely have to be dealt.
PEDRO EL GITANO
July 10th, 2012
6:53 pm
Los Atlanta Hawks 2012-13 serán lo más parecido a un equipo hecho por mí.Soy un enamorado del juego de Lou desde hace años…Esto es muy emocionante!!!Gracias a la gerencia del equipo,comandada por Ferry,de corazón,os quiero tíos!!!
hmmmm.........
July 10th, 2012
6:54 pm
Sweet, how do i go about doing that?
This Gets Old
July 10th, 2012
6:54 pm
@hmmm: “About time MC”
if you are not satisfied with the speed in which the blogs are posted, you can always ask for a refund.
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When people are allowed to post endlessly they think that they become the show and it’s cool now to trash writers on their own blogs. Stupid…
W. R. Terrell
July 10th, 2012
6:54 pm
DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN!……DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN…..DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN….Did I tell yall that DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN!…..Let me say it one mo time….DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN!!!!!
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
6:56 pm
Let’s not lump all the defense on Horf and Smith for one season, please?
Teague + Harris
Morrow + Jenkins
Smith + Stevenson
Horford + Mike Scott/ Ivan Johnson/ Jordan Williams
CENTER + Pachulia
Stack the defense and let the guards wreak havoc scoring the ball, and pitching to the PF for jumpers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS92xrjkSKg
heat check
July 10th, 2012
6:56 pm
LOU WILLIAMS IS A HAWK!! Nice! Danny Ferry is killing it.
Vettledi
July 10th, 2012
6:57 pm
Contrary to others belief I wanna say THANK YOU to MC for his updates and blog works.
For Lou I think it’s simply AMAZING to sign a starter-type player, second in 6th man race with the MID LEVEL EXCEPTION ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
Guys we don’t know how LD is going to play him, but from a management standpoint it’s just outstanding.
JoeJohnson2
July 10th, 2012
6:58 pm
Lou Williams has the IQ of JR Smith
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
7:00 pm
lol
” The Atlanta Hawks 2012-13 will be the closest thing to a computer made by a lover mí.Soy Lou game for years … This is very exciting! Thanks to the team management, led by Ferry, at heart, I I want guys!”
google translater everyone!
jay
July 10th, 2012
7:00 pm
@Vettledi, I have to agree with you. I think we were paying Hinrich 8 mill plus last year and I’d take Lou of Hinrich any day of the week.
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
7:00 pm
Anyone translate for Pedro?
PEDRO EL GITANO
July 10th, 2012
6:53 pm
Los Atlanta Hawks 2012-13 serán lo más parecido a un equipo hecho por mí.Soy un enamorado del juego de Lou desde hace años…Esto es muy emocionante!!!Gracias a la gerencia del equipo,comandada por Ferry,de corazón,os quiero tíos!!!
hmmmm.........
July 10th, 2012
7:01 pm
This Gets Old: I wasn’t trashing MC more or less just giving him a hardtime. Folks have been talking about the trade for over an hour on his old blog. Somebody’s too sensitive.
bird
July 10th, 2012
7:01 pm
Hawks signing all of Josh’s homeboys. Only person left is Howard.
ClassicHawks
July 10th, 2012
7:03 pm
Danny Ferry is Awesome!!!! Get Dwight Howard & he will considered an Atlanta God!!! Untouchable!
Joe
July 10th, 2012
7:03 pm
Ferry is the man!
doc
July 10th, 2012
7:04 pm
rod you like this move for 6moy runner up 2011-2012?
Vettledi
July 10th, 2012
7:04 pm
This is just great news. And I don’t want to hear anything like “aw so that means no playing time for Teague + Lou is a friend of Dwight so A+B=C”… No. Stop. Lou is going to have the same role in here as he had in Philadelphia. And to lead the second squad with about 17pts per game next year, for 5M$ I don’t want to hear ANYTHING about Ferry, ANYTHING.
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
7:04 pm
The Atlanta Hawks 2012-13 serán lo más parecido a [team made for me]. I have beenenamored with the game of Lou for years… He is very emocional (?)!!!
Thanks to the [gerencia][management?] of the team, [comandada por] [commendments for?] Ferry, [de corazón,os quiero tíos]!!!
gave it a try
doc
July 10th, 2012
7:07 pm
rod i think lou is what salim should have been size wise and production wise. kind of jamal like in flip size body.
Luke Cage
July 10th, 2012
7:08 pm
SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!
Welcome Lou!!
soullrenaissance
July 10th, 2012
7:09 pm
W. R. Terrell “DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN!……DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN…..DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN….Did I tell yall that DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN!…..Let me say it one mo time….DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN!!!!!”
DITTO!
Lou has brought his talents back to the Southeast – the A and not Miami. This has really turned into a helluva off-season and if we can pull a ‘trifecta’
and acquire D12, I would have to jump back and pinch myself.
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
7:09 pm
Man who is this Luke Cage guy. Is it slimjr? This guy cracks me up.
Luke Cage
July 10th, 2012
7:11 pm
Luke Cage is your “Hero For Hire”
Danny Ferry
July 10th, 2012
7:13 pm
Guys as much as I like this move I made and would love to bring Dwight home, this move was more for Josh, not Howard. I’m trying to entice him to extend. Lets hope he bites.
Fundamentals
July 10th, 2012
7:14 pm
Last aau Atl connection would be adding Rondo.
Rondo, Lou
Morrow
Brooks -still can’t see why we can’t get him cheap.
Smoove
Dwight
Might as well find a way to bring in Favors, Thaddeus & Bosh.
Jfreak13713
July 10th, 2012
7:14 pm
Nice addition!
Mike
July 10th, 2012
7:15 pm
Great job as usual, MC
So anything new on the Dwight end and with this signing we will have 4 guards so what is the game plan with that?
NCBravesFan
July 10th, 2012
7:15 pm
Every time I see “SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!” on the blog, I smile. So thanks for that, Luke.
I like this signing. Go Hawks!
Disgusted
July 10th, 2012
7:16 pm
We have more than enough guards now, who is going to play small forward.
This is not the end of the Hawks moves, so have to wait and see how this plays out.
Lou Williams, not a bad player, but a volume shooter & I want to see more of him on a day to day basis to judge him.
Joe
July 10th, 2012
7:16 pm
I hope that the Hawks can get Dwight without giving up Jeff Teague.
Teague
Williams
Smith
ZaZa/a free agent
Howard
The Real cp
July 10th, 2012
7:16 pm
I like the Lou signing but we still need a sf. Get Gerald Green in here
2 FOR JOHN DREW
July 10th, 2012
7:18 pm
Michael Cunningham
July 10th, 2012
6:51 pm
@hmmm: “About time MC”
if you are not satisfied with the speed in which blogs are posted, you can always ask for a refund. Clever come back MC
Disgusted
July 10th, 2012
7:18 pm
Remember, D-12 is comming off back surgery. Just a caution. Not saying I don’t want him, but…….backs can be lingersome.
And who knows if he will stay here, Who knows of the Hawks can pull that deal off anyway, I will believe it when I see it.
falCans
July 10th, 2012
7:20 pm
Too many guards expect a trade for a veteran sf.
Yawnnnnn!
July 10th, 2012
7:21 pm
Ummmmm No …… A 6 foot shooting guard who won’t can’t will not PASS or Defend. Philly is a true contender with a TEAM coach that told him to kick rocks. Hey why not though we have a 6/9 center 2 outta control non shot making pgs no SF and a Head case leading them all. yadda yadda ya……
Dan
July 10th, 2012
7:22 pm
I like the move. Just sign potential young superstars even the bench that can grow and be interchangeable
SuckerFree
July 10th, 2012
7:22 pm
yessir!!!!!!
inside word…Josh Is Happy.
Now gotta get Dwight here and have a REAL hometown team with Morrow, Josh, Lou & Dwight
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
7:26 pm
Now let’s sign Anthony Randolph.
New hawk blood
July 10th, 2012
7:26 pm
Danny Ferry you da Man!
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
7:27 pm
Great move Hawks
doc
July 10th, 2012
7:27 pm
well i see you did, it is kind of what we expected from salim. lou is like a jamal in a flip sized body.
Just Joe
July 10th, 2012
7:28 pm
Lou Williams avgd 3.5 assists in 26 minutes per game with limited turnovers (3.1:1 ratio). He knows how and when to pass.
Jae Evolution
July 10th, 2012
7:28 pm
Finish out the roster with Anthony Randolph and Ronnie Brewer and let’s move from there.
i_am_soulstar
July 10th, 2012
7:29 pm
Not that I’m a proponent for getting D-12, but you have to recall everyone saying that once the Nets traded for Deron Williams, he was as good as gone come free agency.
But the Nets sold him on staying with signings and trades (although I believe they have 2 seriously overpaid guys in Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace).
If the Nets could do it for Deron, it’s certainly possible that ATL could pull off the same regarding Dwight.
Although I have to mention the obvious caveat that according to reports, NJ’s owner could give 2 spits about paying the luxury tax, and that that in itself could be enticing for players, knowing that their owner won’t shy away from surrounding them with talent.
JK
July 10th, 2012
7:30 pm
D Howard? The guy who hates the Hawks? Really????? No way, go another route. No need for another bad attitude on the team. We need team players.
phillycat
July 10th, 2012
7:35 pm
ATL phans……Lou is a nice 3rd combo….as u no, he plays no defense and he needs the ball on offense to be effective…He opted out of his deal ( 6 mil) to pursue free agency ( which was a good thought cuz he led the squad in scoring)….I’m sure he was banking on a longer more lucrative deal….As a result…Look 4 Lou Wil to ball hard (selfish) with an eye on his next free agency & the nice deal
ATLien
July 10th, 2012
7:35 pm
Danny Ferry for President!!!!
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
7:38 pm
AL Horford needs to go. He is an absolute HORRIBLE defender. We need winners. Al Horford was not the main BIG on those National Championship teams…
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
7:38 pm
AL Horford needs to go. He is an absolute HORRIBLE defender. We need winners. Al Horford was not the main BIG on those National Championship teams…
SuckerFree
July 10th, 2012
7:38 pm
Hey guys….Lou Williams is the real deal. All you guys that wanted a Jamal Crawford type…you got him and he’s from HERE, wants to be here and he comes at a great price.
Lou Williams also PLAYS DEFENSE so he isn’t a liability when he’s on the court.
The guy that seems on the outside looking in is Jeff Teague…who we may have to trade but I’m comfortable with having 3 point guards on the roster because then we can do what we were meant to do and that’s RUN.
I do agree that we need another Small Forward type to make it fit…. ANTHONY RANDOLPH would be ideal because then we can slide Josh to the 3
Jae Evolution
July 10th, 2012
7:41 pm
Sam Mitchell cosigning a Dwight back to ATL movement with the signing of Lou Williams.
Bossmann
July 10th, 2012
7:42 pm
@ Jae Evolution and Stephen A. Smith
I couldn’t agree with you guys more. Randolph would be a great addition along with Brewer. I still believe that trying to get McGee would a much wiser move than trading for Howard. Wish we could have made a play ay Ilyasova…Oh Well!!!!
JK
July 10th, 2012
7:43 pm
By the comments on this blog it is apparent that Hawks fans are delusional at the moment. This is NOT a good thing that we are recruiting Josh Smith’s homies. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Hopefully this will be a temporary fix until the cap is cleared next year. Just because moves are being made does NOT mean that they are going to work. History proves it.
phillycat
July 10th, 2012
7:45 pm
I need to be clear….. Lou plays zero defense…..When he returns to ATL during the offseason and play pick-up games, playing defense is optional…however in the league u gota guard some1….also he is not a point guard…We here in philly are kool wit Lou Wil getn his walkn papers
boxxiethebull
July 10th, 2012
7:45 pm
yes….do it .just like that!!!!! dont trade horfy…..team can win….should have added Lewis….not sure about d12….do we really want him?….love is a 2 way street and he aint givin me none!!!! go danny
ryan
July 10th, 2012
7:49 pm
Like this pick up of Lou Williams is there a slight chance of the Hawks still in the D12 sweepstakes because its seems the Nets having problems completing the trade .
Gwinnett Fred
July 10th, 2012
7:49 pm
Welcome home Lou!
This “fixes”: half of the 2005 draft disaster. Obviously taking Maravin instead of C.Paul, Deron Williams or Bynum is the big story – but taking Salim Stoudamire (out of the NBA for 4 years now) instead of the home town kid was a major goof as well.
dap01
July 10th, 2012
7:50 pm
The Hawks must have other trades in mind. We have Harris, Teague, Williams, Morrow, Jenkins. All are good but all are small and not too great defensively.
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
7:51 pm
I may be crazy, however, i do think Javale McGhee will be a top 10 center in this league one day. He is worth the risk. one of the few guys in this league who can protect the rim…
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
7:51 pm
I may be crazy, however, i do think Javale McGhee will be a top 10 center in this league one day. He is worth the risk. one of the few guys in this league who can protect the rim…
Just Joe
July 10th, 2012
7:53 pm
82games.com suggests that Lou defends both guard spots fairly well.
KevinM
July 10th, 2012
8:00 pm
I think Lou does defense….and better ham his idol, AI!
Saying that, he fits better than JC2. A terrific addition for a young guy……
Danny is 3 for 3 in my rankings.
Extreme Makeover – the Atlanta Hawks continues…….
steven a smith
July 10th, 2012
8:02 pm
My Basketball dream is coming to fruition. Scrubs are leaving the Atlanta Hawks adnauseum, Goodbye
Damp, Collins, Radmo, Marvin, and Joe.
Jae Evolution
July 10th, 2012
8:02 pm
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider
If Magic want best player? Lakers best partner. Best package of players? Hawks. Want to blow it up? Rockets. None of the above? Nets
Pretty much what it comes down to in the next week, get ready.
The ATLER
July 10th, 2012
8:02 pm
Great Pick up I like it!!!! Keep it going Ferry!!!!
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:03 pm
Trade proposal.
Devin, Horford, Zaza and 2 first for D12 and Turk.
Teague still might be in Hawks uniform.
Magic might want Teague and Devin.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Just Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:03 pm
Lang Greene speculates Lou might start.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
July 10th, 2012
8:04 pm
FIRE LD
Hawkfan
July 10th, 2012
8:05 pm
love it..keep’em coming!
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:06 pm
I Believe Magic will not trade with Hawks unless Teague is included in the deal.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:06 pm
I’m just glad that Josh won’t be depended on to finish games. Lou WIlliams becomes Craig Kimbrell.
I suspect that when Ferry makes his offer to Orlando (which I think happens once the Joe trade is official tomorrow), he will offer Horford, Teague, Jenkins and maybe a draft pick. Maybe by offering youth + production, we won’t have to take back an awful contract.
For me, the addition of Lou makes a world of difference. Add Pietrus and some fillers and call it a summer.
BTW, if we keep Zaza, it will be the first time Howard has had a competent back-up since what’s his name left for Phoenix.
glw
July 10th, 2012
8:07 pm
This deal doesnt make a lot of sense unless other trades are coming, but also could be a move to appease Josh. Lou is an attack kind of player and does play aggressive. But man we have so many guards and no sf. Am sure Ferry is up to something or has a plan
Just Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:07 pm
Anybody know where the MLE maxes out at? 4 years $23M? 5 years $30M?
Buddy C
July 10th, 2012
8:09 pm
Dwight Howard will be a Hawk before the night is over…write it down, and WHEN it happens…you heard it here first!
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:11 pm
Well this makes too much sense to actually happen:
The Rockets, in the latter scenario, would push to acquire Bynum from the Lakers while furnishing the Magic with a package of future draft picks and cap-friendly contracts to set Orlando up for a full-fledged roster reload. Sources confirmed a HoopsWorld.com report that the three-team trade construction that sends Bynum to the Rockets instead of the Magic — with Orlando said to be concerned about its ability to re-sign Bynum for the long term — gained traction Tuesday. The key elements of the three-team proposal, sources said, call for the Lakers to acquire Howard and the Rockets — realizing their longrunning quest to acquire a top-20 player — to take back the mercurial Bynum as he enters the final year of his contract. ESPN.com
KevinM
July 10th, 2012
8:13 pm
MLE used to be 5/25…..
AJ, you might be close on the players….they could give up Houston,s potected pawn as well.
I sure don’t want Turk though….that’s a Marvin type scenario.
MattP
July 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
I see they found the Hawks new ISO Joe, didn’t take long. Atleast he will be playing 6th man unless Drew will play him at starting 2, lol.
tyger
July 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
This doesn’t add up…too small, redundant…
Hawks don’t need 6 small Gs…
Lou turns down $5.4M to take a “piece of mid-level”?…
Who’s his agent? Evander Holyfield?….Nga please…
What does this mean for Morrow/Jenkins???….
Has Teague started packing yet?…
Sounds like short-term asset acquisition…
ATL is just a pit-stop for these guys…
NOW WHAT?
July 10th, 2012
8:18 pm
Potential 3-team trade for Dwight Howard hits a snag
By Josh Robbins, Orlando Sentinel
3:26 p.m. EST, July 10, 2012
A possible blockbuster trade between the Orlando Magic and the Brooklyn Nets that would send Dwight Howard to Brooklyn is losing momentum after a third team involved in those talks pulled out of the discussions.
The Cleveland Cavaliers, a potential destination for unrestricted free agent Kris Humphries and other trade pieces, are no longer a part of the talks, Yahoo! Sports is reporting.
DB
July 10th, 2012
8:18 pm
Honestly I don’t think we need to trade for D12 we can just max him out in FA next summer…it doesn’t matter where he is traded at this point he is gonna opt out…we should be going after Westbrook or rondo in a trade. As for the current roster this team can compete. Add a scoring wing and we would be a 4-5 seed. Current roster 6-8 seed with a loaded east
draft history
July 10th, 2012
8:19 pm
Lou williams is a nice pickup, but he was not coveted by many teams.
The only way atl gets d12 is as a rental and no way we should rent him
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
July 10th, 2012
8:21 pm
GREAT JOB FERRY
SIGNED A TINY GUARD WHO DOESNT PLAY D
WHATS NEXT? SIGN BOYKINS?
Bernie Matt
July 10th, 2012
8:21 pm
Nice Move! But Lou Will, should be allowed to compete for the starting PG job. Not that Teague is not developing, but competition in practice…! That’s all i’m saying. If Lou Will, Teague, Harris and Jenkins can penetrate and make open shots, throw the oop to Josh now and again. I smell excitement and ballin in Phillips! Now sign Anthony Randolph and leggo!
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:22 pm
I like the signing by itself. Lou is definitely worth that price and this team needs more players who can score and get to the free throw line.
I wonder how this long-term contract impacts a potential trade for Dwight though. All that Joe and Marvin salary dumping means nothing if they are going to just take up that cap room with more non-superstars. Maybe Ferry sees him stepping in to the starting PG position for this season if Teague is included in a trade package for Dwight?
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:22 pm
Astro Joe – Why would Magic make that deal and get nothing for best Center in the league ?
Only Draft picks for D12, SMH
Hawks have the best proposal than Laker or Rockets.
Magic get 2 first plus a starting center in Zaza who is only 28years old.
Magic get and all star PF in Horford 26years old.
Magic get Devin and expiring contract.
Magic get and up a coming star in Teague 23years old.
Hawks have the best proposal for D12 and Turk than Lakers and Rockets Combine.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
July 10th, 2012
8:25 pm
LETS WAIVE ZAZA HORFORD AND SMOOVE
THEN LETS JUST SIGN MORE TINY GUARDS
FLYNN
BOYKINS
BOGUES
NATE
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:26 pm
FTPB
“NEJAH DAVENPOOP-You’ve really been pushing this get Dwight at all cost of blow the team up agenda. If fans won’t pay to see a team that’s capable of making the playoffs, featuring a 2 time Allstar and All NBA OC/PF(Horford), an All Star caliber PF(JSmith), a young, quick, fast, athletic, up and coming PG(Teague), and one of the NBAs most productive backup centers(ZPachulia) and PFs(IJohnson), what makes you think fans will spend money to see a bunch of draft picks lose?”
You are proving my point. If fans are not showing up to see a playoff team with no superstars and no shot at a title, what’s the point of keeping them together when you could get the same result at the box office by blowing up the team?
I can tell you this — attendance will almost certainly increase significantly if Dwight comes here, and even more so if trading for Dwight results in CP3 coming here next season. It is worth the gamble for a franchise that has never had that much excitement in its history.
“The Nets are in he process of blowing up their roster to get what they want, and it still won’t make them into a championship caliber team. All they will have is a starting 4 of DHoward, GWallace, JJohnson, and DWilliams. They’ve already traded 5 of their bench players to us for JJ, and they’ll have to trade MBrooks, KHumphries, SWilliams, and at least 1 other player, to get Howard.
They’ll be filling out the bulk of their roster with minimum contract vets just like we had to do. No team that I know of has ever won an NBA title with a starting 5, no matter how good they are, and no bench to speak of.”
Uh… were you sleeping when the Miami Heat blew up their team to get their 3 superstars together and filled out the rest of the roster with minimum contract vets? Worked out pretty nicely for them.
In a related story, Rashard Lewis is about to take the minimum to go to Miami. I am not a Rashard Lewis fan, but the point is, veterans will take the minimum to play on superstar-laden teams where they think they can win a ring.
SuckerFree
July 10th, 2012
8:27 pm
Teague is the one likely to to be traded for the simple fact that Devin Harris is simply a better player.
Teague, Devin, Lou, John Jenkins, Anthony Morrow is just too much. Devin, Lou, Jenkins, Morrow can work.
I’m not sold on John Jenkins, thought it was a bad pick from the get go, so maybe he and Teague can bring back a SF…decent one.
Keep Morrow because Morrow has proven he can light it up at the NBA level and he averaged 12 ppg in 26 minutes which is not too shabby. 6′5 210…he’s big enough to play and start at SG for now.
NOW WHAT?
July 10th, 2012
8:31 pm
Devin Harris>Jeff Teague
That Dude Says...
July 10th, 2012
8:32 pm
I like this pick up.
SuckerFree
July 10th, 2012
8:32 pm
stevenson can give productive minutes at SG and SF.
But basically we have to ship some guards out of here.
Teague and John Jenkins…hopefully
Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde
July 10th, 2012
8:34 pm
LD ain’t gonna know what to do with the speed we have.
DB
July 10th, 2012
8:34 pm
Think the Chris Paul ship has sailed…go after Russell Westbrook and sign D12 next summer..Russell, Williams, Smith, Horford, Howard ….thoughts?
Rev in Tampa
July 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
@Steven A. Smith – “I may be crazy, however, i do think Javale McGhee will be a top 10 center in this league one day. He is worth the risk. one of the few guys in this league who can protect the rim…”
I agree with you. You are crazy. But not as looney as Javale.
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
Hawks should trade for Turk if the Magic trying get rid of his contract.
Hawks could amnesty Turk contract in 2013 with only one year remaining and sign CP3 in 2013.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde
July 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
Keep the guards we have don’t trade nothing! Run folks out the gym.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:38 pm
FTPB
“The last time some real A-towners banded together we got the Dungeon Family with Outkast, Goodie Mob, C-Lo. Rise up Dirty South.”
Well actually, the last time some real A-towners banded together Jeff Francoeur, Kyle Davies, Macay McBride and friends kinda ended up disappointing. Let’s hope this proposed A-Town reunion ends up more like the Dungeon Family than the Baby Braves.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:39 pm
“Think the Chris Paul ship has sailed”
Not until he signs an extension, which he just said yesterday he has no plans to do.
Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde
July 10th, 2012
8:39 pm
PG-Teague
SG-Devin Harris
SF-Lou Williams
PF-Jsmooth
C-Horford
Run Em Out The Gym
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
FTPB
“Lou is NOT a PG… but I don’t see how they could play Teague & Lou at the same time. Or even Devin & Lou (for that matter).”
I agree that he is not a PG, but I don’t think he’s that much less of a PG than Jameer Nelson. In a Dwight-centered offense, I think it could work for a year.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
July 10th, 2012
8:41 pm
FIRE LD
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:41 pm
In other news, I saw Lou Williams’ mom at Bank of America a couple of years ago. Her license plate was “76ERMOM”. She’s gonna need a license plate change.
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:42 pm
BIG DOG, you can’t use amnesty on a player that was acquired via trade. It is a one time chip for teams to fix their own mistake… in this case, Hedo’s bad contract was a Toronto mistake.
The Hawks can find a serviceable SF at The Dollar Store. Guys like Matt Barnes, Pietrus, Jamario Moon, Michael Redd and others.
NOW WHAT?
July 10th, 2012
8:44 pm
Louis William is a player.
NOW WHAT?
July 10th, 2012
8:46 pm
Reality sets in.
PG-Teague
SG-Devin Harris
SF-Lou Williams
PF-Jsmooth
C-Howard
vava74
July 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
Lou Williams for the midlevel?
What’s not to like?
Sure, he is undersized but he is a more willing passer than most gunners, gets to the line at terrific pace and I am always a strong advocate for bringing homeboys.
I am sure that Lou’s mom – who always put on a show when his kid was in town – is happy like hell and that this move will help the Hawks sell more tickets and reach deeper into the community for support.
Also, this either a move to come just before Dwights trade or at least a good attempt at keeping Josh interested in what the Hawks are trying to accomplish.
Simply put:
PHI will miss him and regret it – I don’t think Nick Young brings the same to the table – and we have now moved a step closer to – at least – remain very competitive.
Rod,
As for your commentaries directed to me:
I never said that Jamal was useless, only that LD did not knew how to use him.
Also, I like Lou better. Seems to have more “fire” in him, more emotion and IMO although he is indeed a gunner, I think he is a better team player than Jamal who many times looks like is playing on his own.
I’ve seen quite a few games with Lou and his ISO plays end many times with a dish for an easy bucket which is something that seldom occurs with Jamal.
Superb job so far Danny, now get us Howard and a real coach.
PS: since Jenkins was not Danny’s pick, I see him as a possible trade chip.
Rufus1
July 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
JJ Hickson & Johnny Flynn…
Flynn came in for a workout and if we sign JJ Hickson, Al & Teague are gone… We then become the official ATL Allstars.
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
So if we keep Turk then CP3 is out of pic.
How do Hawks get rid of Turk Contract ?
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BOB FROM ACCOUNT TEMPS
July 10th, 2012
8:48 pm
too bad lou isn’t the same size as marvin, the asg could save $$ on uniforms
Daddy Long Long
July 10th, 2012
8:48 pm
Danny! Danny! Danny!
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:51 pm
Lou Williams had a better assist/turnover ratio last year than Teague. Again, I am not saying he should play point guard, but I think he can if it is necessary.
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:52 pm
Astro Joe – I have always like Pietrus wouldn’t mind see him in Hawks uniform.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:54 pm
“I just don’t think he will leave LA to come here.”
Staying in LA would pay him more and allow him to play with Blake Griffin and… pretty much nobody. Coming here would mean less money but he would join a clearly better team.
Like Dwight, that extra year is probably a huge key for CP3 in terms of where he will sign, but I don’t think it is that unlikely that he comes here, especially since he wanted the Hawks to draft him out of college.
Rev in Tampa
July 10th, 2012
8:54 pm
“LD ain’t gonna know what to do with the speed we have.”
He will be whistling at the as the run up and down the court.
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:55 pm
Gerald Green for 2mill
Pietrus for 2mill
looking good for the Hawks if get D12.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Rev in Tampa
July 10th, 2012
8:55 pm
“the” = “they”
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
8:57 pm
Lou, Gerald, Pietrus, Josh, D12
Pargo, Jenkins, Turk, Ivan, Collins
Petro, Scott, Morrow
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:58 pm
If they do get Dwight, and this team is going to have Lou, A-Mo, Josh, and Dwight on the same team, it is a damn crime if they don’t come out to ATLiens on opening night.
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:59 pm
Big Dog, but not acquiring Turkaglu.
Najeh, in a perfect world, Lou doesn’t play more than 8 minutes at PG… he needs to play a good 20+ minutes at SG.
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
8:59 pm
Big Dog, by not acquiring Hedo.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
8:59 pm
Horford + Harris + the two 2013 first round picks for Dwight and J-Rich is a better offer than whatever poo poo platter the Nets are offering.
KevinM
July 10th, 2012
9:01 pm
Hawks or Bulls talking to Jonny Flynn….Danny making a play.
Our PGs could be on the move very soon.
SuckerFree
July 10th, 2012
9:02 pm
I like gunners though because they have no conscious whatsoever. No moment is too big and if push comes to shove they will take that shot.
As long as there aren’t 4 or 5 gunners on a team I’m perfectly fine with it. As a 6th man that’s exactly the player I want you to be. Jack it up. Harden, Crawford, Lou Williams, Nate Robinson, Nick Young, Marshon Brooks….same guy.
That’s the reason Lou can’t start though. That mentality is good in spurts. So Devin Harris will have to start (even though he’s kind of a gunner himself…sorta).
I just can’t see Teague starting over Devin Harris so basically that would mean shipping Teague off.
KevinM
July 10th, 2012
9:03 pm
Add Bill Walker to the list….he worked out for us and Cleveland…
How hot is Danny’s Blackberry?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
9:03 pm
I wonder where the commenter “You Should Stop Posting” is. Seems to have been sorely needed about 45 minutes ago.
Rufus1
July 10th, 2012
9:04 pm
Lou will shoot better in ATL….
We have better offensive weapons, so he will have more room to operate…
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
9:04 pm
Harris was better than Teague 4 years ago, not so much anymore.
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:05 pm
Ferry (if he pulls off the Dwight trade) needs to add some savvy. Too bad Jason Kidd and Camby and guys with BIG basketball brains have already landed elsewhere. I know some around here believe that bigger, bouncier and faster athletes are the end all and be all… but if we’re trying to do more than just excite a fan base by crashing into the same 2nd round ceiling, this squad will need a few players who have an elite understanding of the science of the game. Based on position need, a Grant Hill type would be sweet.
Ra'mon
July 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
AJ, Believe it or not calling on Kurt Thomas wouldn’t be a bad move either. Better than Dampier, lol.
sco
July 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
I’d be shocked if Orlando takes Harris and not Teague. And I also think Jenkins gets gone as well. Flynn makes more sense as Harris’ back-up than as Teague’s (same draft class). Bill Walker is a nice player and would be a good add… but surely Ferry recognizes the need to add some brain power to this squad (considering his San Antonio roots).
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:10 pm
Ra’mon, you’re forgetting… Petro is our 3rd center. But yeah, I’ve been bumping ofr Kurt Thomas for a few years. Kurt Thomas and Adonal Foyle (lol).
SuckerFree
July 10th, 2012
9:10 pm
Grant Hill! make it happen
Snoop Graham
July 10th, 2012
9:11 pm
Good signing. The only stupid thing I see in these posts is you people still think Josh Smith has a future here. I read a blog the other day in this rag of a newspaper that Josh Smith was unhappy with Danny Ferry’s moves so far. Ferry is a Duke educated man and Smith is a guy with a High School Diploma which was probably handed to him after skating through High School and not going to class. I’d like to see his SAT score. Bottom line is who gives a rats ass what he thinks. The sooner Ferry can get him out of here the better. You don’t build around TRASH.
tyger
July 10th, 2012
9:13 pm
2013-2014 Hawks:
Lou Williams
John Jenkins
Al Horford
only players signed beyond this season
Mike
July 10th, 2012
9:13 pm
I been reading up on that LAL/HOU/ORL i believe that
1) That deal sucks for ORL again but this time they get rookies and picks
2) Setting up another superteam in LAL
3) I think that LAL has Houston FO on payroll.
rakpat
July 10th, 2012
9:15 pm
Danny Ferry is pulling off some impressive moves……Williams is a great addition.
Folks…..this is just the beginning……imagine 1 year from now, or 2-3 years.
MattP
July 10th, 2012
9:16 pm
If Danny is trying to sign Flynn that means Teague is gone.
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
9:17 pm
Astro Joe – No Grant.
If thats the case bring Tmac and Stackhouse.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Rick James
July 10th, 2012
9:17 pm
O yeah!! Gerald Green next please!!!
BasketballTopFan
July 10th, 2012
9:19 pm
Acquiring Louis Williams is a good move for the Atlanta Hawks and a tremendous loss for the Philadelphia 76ers.
Hawks fans anxiously await the start of the 2012/2013 NBA season.
Keep up the good work GM Danny Ferry.
BasketballTopFan@yahoo.com
LakeDawg
July 10th, 2012
9:21 pm
Dayum! I thought the Hawks were trapped by all of these big salaries. Stuck with JJ and Marvin. What happened? Oh, they brought in a basketball guy. Good job Mr. Ferry. Williams is as good as JJ for a lot less
Rusty
July 10th, 2012
9:21 pm
I think it would be very stupid to get rid of JT.
BIG DOG
July 10th, 2012
9:21 pm
Why would Hawks sign Jonny Flynn ?
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:22 pm
Michael Cunningham @ajchawks
#Hawks have no usable cap space MT @NBAPR: The NBA salary cap for 2012-13 season set at $58.044M. The tax level set at $70.307M.
Like I said earlier, the suggestion that Ferry has cleared up a “ton of cap space” for the current summer is just WRONG. We saved some immediate money on the Joe deal… but not much.
SirTolbert
July 10th, 2012
9:22 pm
We have way too many guards now. Something else has to be happening soon. But at the moment, we still have a decent team that would put up a winning/.500 record.
tidog
July 10th, 2012
9:22 pm
Snoop Graham, Josh went on to the NBA out of high school to make millions. The SAT isnt’t a NBA requirement.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
9:23 pm
Cap and luxury tax numbers for this year have been released. Same as last year: $58 million cap, $70 million LT.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
9:23 pm
” the suggestion that Ferry has cleared up a “ton of cap space” for the current summer is just WRONG.”
True, but the clearing of cap space is for next summer when Dwight and CP3 are free agents.
NOW WHAT?
July 10th, 2012
9:25 pm
According to the AJC’s Michael Cunningham, Ferry has reached out the Magic in hopes to swing a deal that would bring Dwight Howard back to his hometown of Atlanta.
The Hawks have engaged the Magic in trade talks involving Howard, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. That person did not want to be identified because the teams involved have not discussed the negotiations publicly.
The Hawks could offer Orlando better players than the Nets. But Atlanta could run the risk of trading away valuable assets only to lose Howard in free agency when his contract expires after next season.
Howard has given no indication he’s willing to commit beyond next season to any team other than Brooklyn. He recently told Yahoo Sports that if a team other than the Nets acquired him, he planned to play out his contract and become a free agent next summer.
Truth be told, this is probably the best trade partner Orlando will find. And if we want to completely tell the truth, it’s probably the best place for Howard to land.
He would be able to team up with Al Horford or Josh Smith, whichever doesn’t get shipped to Orlando, and he can spend all next season convincing Chris Paul to join him. All the while, he’d be the biggest star in a growing Atlanta market. Win-win for both Orlando and Atlanta.
But of course, Howard won’t realize this and will squash any chance of this happening by threatening not to re-sign in Atlanta.
Buddy Grizzard
July 10th, 2012
9:25 pm
“Devin Harris>Jeff Teague”
Crack is wack.
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:26 pm
Big Dog, because Devin (or more likely Teague) may be gone in a Howard deal. And because you don;t want Lou getting extensive minutes at PG.
TMac? Good on the court but I sense not so good off the court. Stackhouse is likely retiring. I’d prefer someone who will get 20+ minutes, not someone simply waving a towel in the air… we can get ML Carr to serve that role.
jhan
July 10th, 2012
9:28 pm
Buddy – I agree. Harris is not better than Teague right now. Keep Teague if at all possible.
Rev in Tampa
July 10th, 2012
9:28 pm
Astro Joe,
I saw MC’s tweet as well. But I don’t know what it means practically. Does it affect the Dwightstakes?
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:28 pm
Najeh, I know that and have been saying it for days. Someone posted an ESPN tweet claiming the cap space was this summer…. which is what I am saying is wrong.
LakeDawg
July 10th, 2012
9:29 pm
Snoop Graham
I hope you’re right about Smooove. Moooove him outta here.
GA.BOY72
July 10th, 2012
9:32 pm
D12 is next, so let the ATL “jump off” begin!!! The Heat have set the bar, and given their ages they will contend for yrs. Dwight is the missing piece for either the Nets or the Hawks in the East, so landing him is imperitive. Hey Dwight, the city needs you, and that #12 jersey could use some real playing time! No offense “Speedy” or Josh Powell. You too John Battle! lol….
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:33 pm
Rev, not at all. Howard makes around $19M so Hawks would need that much going back to the Magic. Something like Horford+Teague+Petro+Jenkins and draft pick would likely get you there. So would Horford+Harris (and picks) but I doubt seriously that Orlando would take that package.
It does mean that all subsequent free agent signings will be vet minimum players.
Rev in Tampa
July 10th, 2012
9:35 pm
AJ, THANKS!
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
9:35 pm
http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/backyard/dwight_howard_reportedly_nearly_came_to_blows_with_jameer_nelson_during_season/11131385?refmod=yardbar_backyard&refpos=art_2
ClassicHawks
July 10th, 2012
9:36 pm
Hawks as constructed if they get a Big who can shoot like Chris Kaman is a better team than last year in my honest opinion.
But Danny Ferry is about to make a major move and i think it’s gonna be Dwight Howard. I think they are gonna roll the dice because they will have his “Birds Rights” and they know this is his home. Plus New Jersey will not be able to sign him unless they amnesty Joe next season. I really believe the Hawks are gonna roll the dice, and if they do, I will finally become a season ticket holder…
Columbus
July 10th, 2012
9:36 pm
Teague has good potential to be a good defender. He has shown it in the past. The moves coming next should be VERY interesting Anything could happen. Could be HUGE or could be short-term fix and a small splash. Its going to be interesting to see which direction Ferry goes and what he is able to pull off…..
Horford is pretty good on defense when he is HEALTHY and in HIS natural position
Snoop Graham
July 10th, 2012
9:38 pm
Where in the hell did I put my weed? Or…. did I… did I smoke the s hit up? Fck. who got some good weed?
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:39 pm
loks like Lou ot around $5M. But we don’t know the length of the deal.
Jason Walker @JasonWalkerSBN
Given the @NBA release on cap numbers, the MLE that the Hawks would have based on the cap standing would be $5.0M.
pointguardslim
July 10th, 2012
9:40 pm
SNoop Graham only smokes wooly’s and crack.
Don Rickles.
July 10th, 2012
9:40 pm
Horford is pretty good on defense when he is HEALTHY and in HIS natural position LMAO this aint april 1st is it?
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:41 pm
Jason Walker @JasonWalkerSBN
So the Lou Williams deal for the Hawks couldn’t be more than 4 years, 21.4 million given a 5M start point and 4.5% raises.
Don Rickles.
July 10th, 2012
9:42 pm
Devin Harris is much better than teague and more intelligent and a true point guard.
2011 Utah NBA 63 11.3 5.0 1.8 27.6 44.5% 74.6% 36.2% 0.2
2010 Utah NBA 17 15.8 5.4 2.4 31.2 41.3% 81.1% 35.7% 0.1
2010 Total NJ/Uth NBA 71 15.2 7.1 2.4 31.7 42.2% 83.3% 32.2% 0.1
2010 New Jersey NBA 54 15.0 7.6 2.4 31.9 42.5% 84% 30% 0.1
2009 New Jersey NBA 64 16.9 6.6 3.2 34.7 40.3% 79.8% 27.6% 0.3
2008 New Jersey NBA 69 21.3 6.9 3.3 36.1 43.8% 82% 29.1% 0.2
Don Rickles.
July 10th, 2012
9:44 pm
G PPG APG RPG MPG FG% FT% 3PT% BLKPG
Devin Harris is much better than teague and more intelligent and a true point guard.
2011 Utah NBA 63 11.3 5.0 1.8 27.6 44.5% 74.6% 36.2% 0.2
2010 Utah NBA 17 15.8 5.4 2.4 31.2 41.3% 81.1% 35.7% 0.1
2010 Total NJ/Uth NBA 71 15.2 7.1 2.4 31.7 42.2% 83.3% 32.2% 0.1
2010 New Jersey NBA 54 15.0 7.6 2.4 31.9 42.5% 84% 30% 0.1
2009 New Jersey NBA 64 16.9 6.6 3.2 34.7 40.3% 79.8% 27.6% 0.3
2008 New Jersey NBA 69 21.3 6.9 3.3 36.1 43.8% 82% 29.1% 0.2
Hawkeye
July 10th, 2012
9:45 pm
Dwight Howard comin’ to Atlanta,don’t hold your breath,Lou Williams is a good move regardless where he is from,not a precursor for a trade for Howard……………
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
9:45 pm
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Hawks, I’m told, still think they’re alive in Dwight trade chase. With plenty of pieces to offer and Josh Smith to lobby Howard to stay
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Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
9:46 pm
If Devin Harris is on this roster to start the season, I wonder what will happen if Ludacris comes to a game and they see each other. Maybe it will be like this
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:48 pm
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Hawks, I’m told, still think they’re alive in Dwight trade chase. With plenty of pieces to offer and Josh Smith to lobby Howard to stay.
ClassicHawks
July 10th, 2012
9:48 pm
Kaman
Horford
J Smoove
the New J.J. or A. Morrow
J. Teague
BENCH
L. Williams
Zaza
9 to 5
Devin Harris
Stevenson
Come on this team is just as good if not better than last year. Kinda like the Nuggets but we have better players than them honestly. A shooting Big Like Kaman will do wonders for Al and Josh, if we have to go with what we have. We will remain competitive, but I really believe we are gonna get Dwight. That is still blowing my mind because I never thought that would be possible in a 100 years!!!!
alex
July 10th, 2012
9:49 pm
if after all hawks going to land DH my deep sorry to 90% pundits and experts from suppose to be neutral ESPN, but really kissing everything on big markets team – NY, LA, BOSTON, and for some unknown me reason hate ATLANTA, worry they going to get heard attack.
Mr.E
July 10th, 2012
9:49 pm
If anything bringing Lou in makes me think Ferry is definitely going for D12. There are just too many guards to not assume that he’s thinking about losing one them.
Also:
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Hawks, I’m told, still think they’re alive in Dwight trade chase. With plenty of pieces to offer and Josh Smith to lobby Howard to stay
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
9:52 pm
Anyone else want to post the Marc Stein tweet?
Ray
July 10th, 2012
9:52 pm
Jeff Teague > Devin Harris
Trust me as of right now yes Harris was an all-star, but that’s the key word was.
Not only that using that joke of a game to ever justify someone over another it’s down right stupid.
Plus Teague is younger many more years ahead of him vs. Harris who is aging and who knows how fast. We don’t know if he’ll be Mike Bibby or Steve Nash.
G.Johnson
July 10th, 2012
9:53 pm
I love Danny Ferry and job he is doing by adding fresh and new. I hope we can get D12 soon or someone to mix in the else.
jlewis
July 10th, 2012
9:54 pm
The Hawks are not seriously going after dwight howard, they just dumped salary because the owners didnt want to pay, not to win a championship. They want you to believe they are going after dwight, if he doesnt come, which he won’t, they can say they are trying to bring a winner, and scapegoat dwight like most have done JJ. Lou Williams a 7 time all star, oh, thats what he has to be to be better than JJ. No CP3, most people are naming players, that arent close to the players we had on the roster last year. THIS TEAM WILL BE MOVED…there is no money to be made in the ATL, without a superstar, and there is not one coming.
Wabe
July 10th, 2012
9:55 pm
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Hawks, I’m told, still think they’re alive in Dwight trade chase. With plenty of pieces to offer and Josh Smith to lobby Howard to stay
Wabe
July 10th, 2012
9:56 pm
For you AJ
Lottery Team
July 10th, 2012
10:00 pm
Kaman
Horford
J Smoove
the New J.J. or A. Morrow
J. Teague
Grandad
July 10th, 2012
10:01 pm
Breaking News:
Danny Ferry hired as Hawks GM !
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
10:03 pm
Wabe.
Lottery Team
July 10th, 2012
10:03 pm
Harris is 29, hasnt peak. Knows how to distribute the rock, has speed, and size, can score and is a man. and has smarts.
Teague is young dumb, and doent have the skill set of Harris nor the maturity.
Harris> Teague
no brainer
Najeh Davenpoop
July 10th, 2012
10:04 pm
AJ I’ll post it again if you want
DaJuice
July 10th, 2012
10:05 pm
ATL….Lou Will-Ville
Columbus
July 10th, 2012
10:06 pm
Ferry is NOT going to offer/trade with Orlando UNLESS Howard WILL SIGN WITH THE HAWKS. A trade can probably be worked out between the teams BUT Dwight has to sign a deal with the Hawks and that is probably true for ALL teams. Even the Nets. Howard might get there and change his mind unless he is ONLY wanting to go to the Nets to drain the owner for everything he is worth with holdouts, raises, extensions, etc. If that was my plan the Nets would be the ONLY place to go too. Maybe the ATL connections will sway Dwight more than money…. doubt it but its possible. Josh would have to want to stay of course and also recruit Dwight.
But I like Danny Ferry’s post earlier and nobody commented on that signing Lou was to keep Josh in ATL and not to get Dwight. If it did make Dwight take another look at ATL great. But it was for resigning Josh.
ntrigue
July 10th, 2012
10:07 pm
I hope Pape Sy, Derick Caracter, Cedric Benson, and Jeremy Hazell make the team. They give us quality depth a combination of shooters, shot blockers, perimeter defense, and and guards that drive to the basket and get to the line. Were definitly deeper than last year with this group once they get chemistry our 2nd unit will be fun to watch! Especially when you add Ivan, Jenkins, and Mike Scott to the mix.
Devil's Advocate
July 10th, 2012
10:07 pm
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
I had a DRE today. Best ever…
Joe
July 10th, 2012
10:07 pm
Georgia needs a championship in any sport
ntrigue
July 10th, 2012
10:08 pm
Stevenson and Petro will be likely be traded or cut.
Astro Joe
July 10th, 2012
10:12 pm
I think Lou was added to the roster because ths team lacked a closer. What other playoff-tested “closers” were available for $5M? I think Ferry is making basketball moves, not trying to create that Atlanta Avengers (bruthas, assemble!). What he doesn’t want to see from his arena seat is a poorly executed play that breaks down and we don’t have a guy capable of making something out of nothing.
Mr.E
July 10th, 2012
10:14 pm
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Hate to rain on yet another parade, but…Lakers-Rockets-Magic deal not likely at moment. The latest on the HT Blog: http://on.nba.com/LNtnxh
Doesn’t hurt…
Rusty
July 10th, 2012
10:17 pm
JT is more explosive ,faster,younger &plays much better defense than Harris,will be much better without JJ pounding the ball.
Michael Cunningham
July 10th, 2012
10:20 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.
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