Atlanta Hawks: Summer roster set

The Hawks today released the roster for the three-day minicamp this week and their entry in the Las Vegas Summer League starting Friday.

The roster includes 2012 draft picks John Jenkins (No. 23 overall) and Mike Scott (No. 43) in addition to 2010 second-round pick Pape Sy and 2011 second-round pick Keith Benson.

Sy, Benson, Derrick Caracter and Jerry Smith are the players on the roster with NBA experience. The Hawks are also expected to add Jordan Williams to the roster after he officially joins the team as part of the Joe Johnson trade with the Nets.

The Hawks open summer league play July 12 at the Cox Pavilion vs. Washington. Their other scheduled games are July 15 (vs. San Antonio), July 16 (Boston), July 18 (Dallas) and July 19 (Portland).

Hawks Summer Roster

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Player name Position Height Weight DOB Prior to Hawks
Keith Benson C/F 6-11 230 08/13/88 NBDL/GSW/Oakland U.
Brian Butch C 6-11 240 12/22/84 NBDL/Wisconsin
Derrick Caracter F/C 6-9 275 05/04/88 NBDL/Lakers/UTEP
Paul Carter F 6-8 203 06/02/87 NBDL/Illinois-Chicago
Frank Hassell F 6-9 255 10/09/88 NBDL/ODU
Jeremy Hazell F 6-9 255 03/25/86 NBDL/Seton Hall
Delroy James F 6-8 225 05/04/87 NBDL/Rhode Island
John Jenkins G 6-4 215 03/06/91 Vanderbilt
Elija Millsap G 6-6 215 08/12/87 NBDL/UAB
Mike Scott F 6-8 237 07/16/88 Virginia
John Shurna F 6-9 215 04/30/90 Northwestern
Jerry Smith G 6-2 190 09/26/87 NBDL/Nets/Louisville
Pape Sy G/F 6-7 210 04/05/88 Gravelines/Hawks/NBDL
Jordan Taylor G 6-1 195 09/30/89 Wisconsin
Brad Wanamaker G 6-4 210 07/05/89 NBDL/Pittsburgh

463 comments Add your comment

cdog

July 10th, 2012
2:06 pm

danny ferry is the man. he’s going t6o bring in a center that is sorely needed.go after andrew bynum. now za za pachulia should be on the launching pad

Astro Joe

July 10th, 2012
2:11 pm

MsDee, so Dwight is supposed to choose between Jay-Z and Beyonce or Tyler Perry and Madea? Hello Brooklyn Bridge!

jay

July 10th, 2012
2:12 pm

Ppl you guys keep getting caught up on Dwight leaving after a year. If we get him the Net’s don’t get him. They resign Lopez at the max deal which effectively kills their salary cap. Howard would then not be able to go to the Net’s. Problem solved. Ferry sign him. Get the Bird’s rights. Howard isn’t going to leave $25 million on the table.

champion chipz plz

July 10th, 2012
2:13 pm

Someone make this clear for me. Can the Nets sign D12 even though it would take them waaaay over the salary cap? Is that not possible or does it just mean luxury tax would have to be paid? I know basically nothing about the CBA…

If Dwight can’t re-sign with the Nets, then ATL would be a prime destination for him in 2013. We could offer a max contract and put him with Horford (as PF) and Smith (as SF). That would be a dominating frontcourt. Horford will be making $12 million, Smith would probably want $12-15 million, and Howard would be getting $20 million.Total, that would be $47 million (assuming Josh goes for $15 million a year). There would be enough money to give Teague a raise ($3 million a year) and the rest could be spent on a decent bench. My hope is that Jenkins could move into the starting role at SG, so no money would have to be spent there. Welp, that is basically my plan. I have no idea if it is even possible, but it sounds right to me. If Prokhorov (that Russian guy who owns the Nets) is willing to go way over the salary cap and pay the luxury tax to sign Howard, then this whole plan tanks. This is probably the best case scenario since I don’t see the Hawks being able to get the Big 3 of Smith, CP3 and D12 (it would almost definitely put them over the salary cap and I doubt ASG wants to pay tax).

J.J.M.

July 10th, 2012
2:14 pm

“MsDee, so Dwight is supposed to choose between Jay-Z and Beyonce or Tyler Perry and Madea? Hello Brooklyn Bridge!”

lmaoooo

hawksfancents95

July 10th, 2012
2:21 pm

Buddy Grizz- id take Brook Lopez, hes a legit 7foot C and he is offensively skilled, he shoots 80%ish from the line and when healthy is capable of being a top 5 C.(those r extremely hard to come by)

When are we going to trade Devin Harris? i am sorely misunderstanding any point to keep him as a backup or a possible start at the 2. we NEED Kevin Martin so bad, with Kmart at SG we are a 4-6 seed, and if we meet boston again we NEED to beat them, they are our curse, if we beat BOS that whole team gets dismantled in the next off-season.
Jeff Teague Kevin Martin Josh Smith Al Horford Zaza Pachullia starters. let Al get his wish at the 4 and tell josh to come in at 230-240lb range and play SF and some PF. Lets see if all-nba al is capable of being an all-star at the 4 like he/some of yall want.

Najeh Dav- i liked your post about trapping in dwight with brooklyn being unflexible salary wise next year but dwight is already disgruntled and if we trap him imagine how much of a pain in the a he will be, on the bright side he might force GM DF to fire LD and that could open up my plan of a tandom coach unpresidented in the NBA Mike D’antoni (O cord)and Nate McMillian (d cord).

We are not getting Dwight or CP3 next year, with that said im still completley happy with our moves so far. we need to stockpile 1st rounders, especially CHAR,SAC,PHOX,ORL they will be the worst teams next year(so far). Or go the route of acquiring some all-star type talents to complement josh/al.

Bossmann

July 10th, 2012
2:21 pm

@Mike

I do think that Smith and Howard would be very exciting, but it harbors too many risks of imploding this team and leaving nothing to build upon, due to having to give up so much to get Dwight. I will leave the fantasy of seeing smoove and D12 in the same jersey to 2K sports. Also, the fans might be skeptical at first, but what if howard ends up in Dalls or LA? Then the only team we still have to worry about is the Heat and Orlando won’t have a prayer of competing with us.

@Jay

The nuggets got rid of NeNe because hey had to get rid of his salary, because he didn’t live up to it. They already made the mistake of overpaying a big man, so the Hawks might be able to bank on their hesitance to do it again and get him for cheaper than you would think.

game7

July 10th, 2012
2:25 pm

I’ve followed this blog for quite some time and am torn on the whole Dwight ordeal, but I have come to the realization that we need to go for it. I think most everyone can agree on the fact that Horford is better than Lopez…so I think most everyone can agree that we can offer a better package than the Nets. I know that Dwight has stated that he’ll only sign an extension with the Nets, but my gut tells me that we are the only other team (outside of maybe the Lakers, who appear to be out) that can change his mind. The reasons have been stated by other bloggers (hometown, playing with friends, spotlight, etc). If Howard goes to Brooklyn, then it’s just going to be more of the same. Free Agents will only go to Miami, New York, and now Brooklyn. No one will come here without Howard, and even if they do that still leaves the fact that Miami, Brooklyn, and NY will all have at least 2 more all-stars on their teams than us.

It disgusts me how the NBA is now, where superstars run the league and demand trades etc. But it doesn’t seem like this is going to change anytime soon, so if we want to compete for more than homecourt advantage, we need to go all in.

PS: Kinda funny that Danny Ferry could very well play a vital part in building the big 3 for the Nets. D-Will stated he was thinking Dallas until the Joe trade and now he has the ability to keep Howard from going to the Nets, but probably won’t pull the trigger. Hope he’s getting some sort of cut from Jay-Z.

glw

July 10th, 2012
2:25 pm

Ive had my reservations about trading for Dwight unless he was willing to sign an extension, but Im starting to believe more and more that if Dwight comes here for 1 year, it would be pretty hard for him to leave, if Josh, Morrow, and maybe one of his former teammates like RLewis or Peaches is here. He would have “his guys” surrounding him and Atlanta would be able to offer him more, plus his family is here, it would be pretty hard for him to leave. So I think Im in for trading him and giving up Horford and combo of other players to get him. I would hope we could keep Teague though.

The worse case scenario, if he comes, still leaves, maybe it shows Josh that we did what we could, Josh still might choose to stay and maybe we just go out and find us another star type. Bynum might still be there, plus some other quality players would be out there and we could possibly get 2 other players. Each day, it is making more and more sense to go after Dwight.

Astro Joe

July 10th, 2012
2:30 pm

Kevin, thanks.

MsDee

July 10th, 2012
2:39 pm

“MsDee, so Dwight is supposed to choose between Jay-Z and Beyonce or Tyler Perry and Madea? Hello Brooklyn Bridge!”

lol..funny Astro Joe but TI/Jermaine Dupre and Jeezy baby!! Plus u would be surprised who all lives here in Atlanta. And trust me, if u didnt know now, u would DEFINITELY SEE THEM COME OUT TO WATCH DWIGHT! I would still choose Atlanta over Nets

MsDee

July 10th, 2012
2:43 pm

Astro Joe, believe it or not but I could actually see Dwight in a Madea movie. EASILY!! TOO FUNNY!!

MsDee

July 10th, 2012
2:45 pm

The title of the movie would be, “Madea Takes On Her Long Lost Son,” starring Tyler Perry and Dwight Howard!!!

northcyde

July 10th, 2012
2:50 pm

People need to stop crying about the Big 3 concept. This isn’t something new. The only difference today is that free agency and superstar players are dictating where they want to play, as opposed to teams drafting and trading for players to form that “Big 3″.

Dallas did this restructure all wrong. They had assembled a team around a superstar that had top notch role players that played that role at the highest level. No way do you break that up until they prove they couldn’t repeat.

Why Cuban didn’t simply bite the bullet and amnesty Haywood to re-sign Chandler, I don’t know. He has the money. Just admit that your team made a mistake and take the hit. Now, they almost have to force feed Haywood into the lineup, just to justify keeping him.

Dallas lineup

PG: Beubois
G: V. Carter
F: S. Marion
PF: D. Nowitzki
C: B. Haywood

Only other guys under contract are Dominique Jones and Brandan Wright. They even traded their draft pick ( Tyler Zeller ) for a later round pick ( Jared Cunningham ) and some 2nd round picks.

Carlisle will have to get production out of at least 2 of those guys, in order for the Mavs to even be competitive. Knowing Cuban though, he’ll grossly overpay for an OJ Mayo or somebody.

EmirS.

July 10th, 2012
2:53 pm

I really do hope this Dwight Howard saga ends by today or tomorrow. It was interesting but at this point it’s really played out. I want to see what Ferry has in store for the future of the Hawks. Whether its Dwight or not. I want to see what his plans are.

@Ken S.

In regards to you saying the Nets can’t win with just starters:

While this may be true, you have to keep in mind that with Howard, Williams, Johnson, and Wallace…..you are following the same blueprint as Miami did. I don’t recall as to whom said this but they were right. Players will sign for less if they feel they have a strong opportunity to win a ring. When you get desperate…you do things that help you get what you want (See Nash and Ray Allen). The bench will be filled out with specialists.

My 2cents on players playing for their home teams:

Lebron left Cleveland.
Wade didn’t go to Chicago.
Bosh left Dallas hanging.

I’ve been optimistic about Dwight playing here to because this is where he is from….but realistically…..what are the chances of that even being relevant? Hawks are owned by ASG, whom have proven to not want championships. Howard would play with his childhood friend….okay. There is no guarantee of us landing CP3 or Harden.

Now the Nets…are owned by a billionaire. New city…new arena ..start of a “new” Dynasty. You get to come in and play with Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, and Gerald Wallace. The owner is all about winning…claiming the Net’s will win a championship in the next 5 years. Ofcourse it’s not a guarantee….but it’s the mindset of it all.

In the NBA players want to be in the best situation to win. Compare the current status of the Nets and Hawks. If you wanted a ring…what would be more suggestive to you? The Nets or the Hawks? Let’s be honest…..Dwight and Smith won’t win you any rings. Deron, JJ, Wallace, and Howard….will win you rings.

Again keep in mind that there is no guarantee that another star free agent will sign with us. But there is a guarantee to play with 3 All-Stars in Brooklyn. One of them being even a superstar.

So I ask this question again…is Dwight being from Atlanta really relevant?

Jason S

July 10th, 2012
2:59 pm

@MC

Heard Farmar was set to join Hawks summer league team once the trade was official, but I thought the Hawks planned to let Farmar go. I am confused …

Glenn

July 10th, 2012
3:03 pm

Gees . Only Kris Humphries would sign Kris Humphries to a four year deal . Magic did what they could for Dwight which is bizarre in itself . Man he tooled that organization . How cool is it that the Hawks have their fingers on everything now ? Just blowing my mind . If the Net can’t work something out with the Magic directly its done . The Net won’t be able to free enough space . Dwight will now have to play ball . No pun going for . I would have to think Houston is in the drivers seat .

northcyde

July 10th, 2012
3:07 pm

Not offering up significant talent in order to retain Howard, falls back into the same trap that we’ve been in for the past few years. We’d be hanging onto borderline star players, in hopes that they could either develop into stars themselves, or gel by playing together.

It would be very interesting if we had JJ, if the Magic would jump at a JJ + Horford + 1st round pick ( 2014 ) for a Dwight + Turkoglu swap. JJ + Horford would’ve at least kept the Magic relevant, while they re-tooled for the future.

PG – Nelson
G – Richardson
F – Johnson
PF – Nicholson ( rookie 1st round pick )
C – Horford

Nowhere near a championship team, but definitely a playoff team. They’d flirt with the Luxury Tax for one more year, before getting a little relief. This would be the Hawks

PG – Teague
G – Jenkins ( rookie 1st round pick )
F – Turkoglu
PF – Smith
C – Howard

or for you big lineup fans . . .

PG – Teague
G – Jenkins
F – Smith
PF – Howard
C – Zaza

But ol well.

Glenn

July 10th, 2012
3:08 pm

@ Ken

The unfortunate relevance I would have to think is Orlando and Atlanta being in the same conference. Orlando maybe couldn’t stomach trading Dwight to us for that alone . If the Nets can’t work out a trade they won’t have the money to sign him next year . We would have the money to sign him to a max next year if he did become an FA . Only a handful of teams can say that .

northcyde

July 10th, 2012
3:11 pm

And for the record, I despise Turkoglu, and would rather see Josh Smith shooting jumpers in that big lineup, than to see Hedo as the starter.

NORRIS CHUCK

July 10th, 2012
3:19 pm

Bossman,

Ive been screaming for McGee it seems like forever! Wouldnt know what the Hawks do to get him or the Nuggets would ask for in return. But that would be a nice frontline guy to have.

terrell

July 10th, 2012
3:20 pm

4get peaheaded Dwight. Move on.

northcyde

July 10th, 2012
3:21 pm

LOL @ teams wanting to offer Kris Humphries a one year deal, while guys like Ryan Anderson get multi year deals. Humphries is a rebounding machine who would be a dang good frontline player for a rebuilding squad. Hell, the Hawks could’ve definitely use a Kris Humphries, with our rebounding problems at times.

terrell

July 10th, 2012
3:22 pm

People crying for a guy that actually had his offensive game slowed down by a cheeseburger.(Collins). Dude aint Shaq or Kareem.

Rev in Tampa

July 10th, 2012
3:27 pm

Forget about McGee. Larry Drew would not be able to coach or even control.

Ken Strickland

July 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

I don’t know what Dwight’s motive’s are, but he’s determined to go to a bigger market than Atlanta, Houston, or Dallas. If he goes to LA, he knows he won’t be the top dog with Kobe there. If traded to the Hawks, he’s not going to resign no matter what. So you who keep begging for us to trade for Howard no matter what can just give it a rest. Hell, the Hawks have yet to persuade JSmith to sign an extension, so how can anyone expect us to convince Howard.

Even without JJ and Marvin, our roster certainly isn’t devoid of quality talent. A starting lineup of
SF-JSmith,
OC-ZPachulia,
PF-AHorford,
SG-DHarris,
PG-JTeague,
and a bench comprised of
PG-JPargo, (DHarris)
SG-AMorrow, Jenkins
SF-ARandolph, (AMorrow)
PF-IJohnson, Scott, LWilliams
OC-Petro(AHorford)
This would definitely be a playoff caliber team with a frontline that definitely wouldn’t get dominated on the boards on either end on the court. We use the ample cap space we’ll have to add a few talented quality FAs, and we become an even better team.

Glenn

July 10th, 2012
3:33 pm

Humphries can score as well but a four year deal …..guaranteed ? Not even Brooklyn would do that and they are giving money away . If he would agree to a two year deal some team might give a 1st and that would be 5 1sts the Nets could deal for Dwight . Still a possibility I would imagine .

northcyde

July 10th, 2012
3:37 pm

And I still say that any deal that Orlando wants, you don’t necessarily turn them down. If the move is to send Teague + Horford OR Smith to the Magic + 1st round pick . . for Howard + Turkoglu . . you almost have to do it. Because either way, it’s going to create a big time buzz in Atlanta and elevate the Hawks tremendously

PG: Harris
G: Jenkins
F: Turkoglu
PF: Smith
C: Howard

or

PG: Harris
G: Jenkins
F: Turkoglu
PF: Horford
C: Howard

This probably goes all against Ferry’s plan, as he probably never envisioned Dwight Howard possibly being available to them. I think he did the JJ salary dump to do just that, dump salary. I don’t think there was any plan to bring in a big time free agent THIS YEAR.

But now that everything seems to be closing off for the Magic, as far as legit trade partners, the Hawks need to simply pull the trigger on this. Orlando may have reservations on Josh Smith re-signing if he’s traded to them, so send Horford to Orlando . . along with Teague . . and one or two 1st round picks.

Offer that to the Magic, and see if they turn it down.

Meanwhile, we’d be in the catbird seat to re-sign BOTH Howard and Smith at the end of the year. Even if both walk, the complete dismantling of this team would be complete, and you could sell off Howard and Smith for multiple draft picks, with teams vying to get them to sign a 5 year contract. Something they can only do by executing a sign and trade with us.

Let’s see if Ferry is too stubborn to deviate from his “plan”, and simply bring in a superstar for one year.

northcyde

July 10th, 2012
3:38 pm

Glenn . . all of these other mediocre guys are getting 3 and 4 year deals, but a rebounding machine like Humphries is supposed to settle for a 2 year deal? I know if I were Humphries, no way I would do it. Somebody will offer that kid at least a 3 year deal.

Melvin

July 10th, 2012
3:41 pm

northcyde,

I would say any deal that the Hawks are willing to offer the Magic will not include Josh if you consider MC report the Ferry is trying to convince Josh on the short and long term plans of the Hawks. I think it’s obvious that Ferry is trying to keep Josh long term.

Melvin

July 10th, 2012
3:44 pm

First Humphries was the most hated guy b/c he married Kim Kardashian now he will be hated again b/c he’s may be the reason why Dwight may not go to Nets. That kid is catching some tough breaks….

Melvin

July 10th, 2012
3:48 pm

Portland should throw a monkey wrench into this Howard saga by offer Lopez an offer. That would make the Nets match their offer and possibly killed Howard chances of going to the Nets….

Maybe someone should tell Cuban to do it. He may jump at the chance spoiled the Nets dreams of a big 3…..

jay

July 10th, 2012
3:52 pm

@Melvin I gurantee you it’s not only Humphries, but also Lopez. Just my take on it.

MsDee

July 10th, 2012
3:54 pm

Michael Cunningham ‏@ajchawks
‪#Hawks‬ sign 1st round draft pick John Jenkins.

Glenn

July 10th, 2012
3:54 pm

@ northclyde

I like Chris but he is looking for at least a three year deal worth over 30 million . I’m sure not seeing a S&T scenerio where a team give up a one and a big guaranteed contract . I like Kris . After the soap opera nonsense left he really turned it on . If Brooklyn doesn’t get Dwight I’m sure they will sign him to a 3 year deal .

Buddy Grizzard

July 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

“if we meet boston again we NEED to beat them”

I don’t know if the Heat will be able to beat the Celtics next year.

Harpie

July 10th, 2012
4:14 pm

You are all wasting your time worrying about what players the Hawks have. No matter who they have on the court, Larry Drew will screw up any chance they have of doing well. Fire Drew and get a REAL coach!!!

O'Brien

July 10th, 2012
4:27 pm

Ken S,

If traded to the Hawks, he’s not going to resign no matter what..

Maybe so. BUT…If the Hawks have his bird rights, and he chooses to sign outright with another team, then he can only get a 4 year contract, whereas the Hawks could offer him a 5th year, worth $20+ mil. Would Dwight Howard really leave $20+ mil on the table?

Also:
1) How many teams have the available cap space next off-season to give Dwight a max contract?
2) Of those teams, how many of them would be on Dwight’s wish list?

Therefore, even if he doesn’t want to stay with the Hawks, his best option may be for the Hawks to do a sign and trade deal. And if so, we could sign and trade him to the Nets, and recoup some of the talent (especially multiple first round picks) we gave up to get him.

Plus we would be under the cap, so we don’t have to take back equal salary from the Nets (which Orlando has to do). IMO, its a win win. We would have one year to convince him and Josh to resign. And if they dont, we would get at least 2 first round picks for Dwight, and another first round pick for Josh if he chooses to leave as well.

rollo lawson

July 10th, 2012
4:31 pm

I said it before and I’ll say it again. FORGET ABOUT DWIGHT HOWARD AND SIGN JAMES HARDEN IN 2013!!!!

NORRIS CHUCK

July 10th, 2012
4:35 pm

O’Brian,

THAT. WAS. JUST. BRILLANT!

rollo lawson

July 10th, 2012
4:37 pm

Teague, Jenkins, Harden, Josh, Horford, Harris would be a nice collection of talent!

O'Brien

July 10th, 2012
4:38 pm

Glenn,

Humphries (27 yrs old):

2010-2011: 10 pts, 11 rebs
2011-2012: 14 pts, 11 rebs

Ryan Anderson (24 years old):
2010-2011: 11 pts, 6 rebs
2011-2012: 16 pts, 7 rebs

If Anderson gets 4 years, $34-$36 mil, then why would Humphries not get at least 3 years, in the $24 – $30 mil range?

Glenn

July 10th, 2012
4:39 pm

James Harden played so bad against the Heat I puked repeatedly . He was a major reason OKC lost that series . Dwight with a decent back > James Harden .

Glenn

July 10th, 2012
4:44 pm

Kris Humphries will get a new contract just not from Cleveland . Kris Humphries will get a contract just not in a S&A scenerio . Meaning no one will give a pick & sign him to a new contract . I’m sure Brooklyn will once they are done pursuing Dwight . I think Clevelands desire was to get Humphries & package him as trade bait . Maybe for Bynum after his comment about being interested in signing with Cleveland next season . His agent was looking for four years but would take three from Brooklyn .

Hoosierhawk

July 10th, 2012
4:45 pm

If we traded for Howard and he bolted after one year, NJ wouldnt have the cash to get him and re-sign Brook Lopez. So in that case, we could still go after lopez. We have a blank slate and can go crazy in the FA market in 2013.

Plus – you know how at stores they tell you to take home the merchandise and can always come back and return it if you decide? They do that because you are less likely to take it back once you have already brought it home. Same thing with Dwight. Once he is already here, it will be harder to leave J. SMith, his hometown, etc vs. if he had never come at all.

Jae Evolution

July 10th, 2012
4:47 pm

Bulls didn’t pick up Ronnie Brewers option, he instantly shoots to #1 guy we need to sign as a SG/SF. Came from a system where defense was rewarded and he supplied a good amount of it, also a good slasher and athlete to pair with our numerous shooters.

Slimjr

July 10th, 2012
4:48 pm

DeaL is off with the Nets!

Thanks Kris H!

Buddy Grizzard

July 10th, 2012
4:48 pm

Keep in mind Humps numbers came on a lottery team, Ryan Anderson’s on a playoff team.

Just Joe

July 10th, 2012
4:49 pm

One thing to keep in mind as far as trading picks as part of the package for Dwight.

We’d give up our 2013 pick, which probably wouldn’t be very good anyway if we played Dwight at center all year. We’d also give up Houston’s pick which is lottery protected.

If Dwight & Josh walk next summer, we’d still have our 2014 pick (league rules won’t let us trade picks in back to back years), and it would probably be a top 5 pick since we’d obviously be horrible in the 2013/14 season. The 2015 pick is the one that might hurt to give up.

Turtle Man

July 10th, 2012
4:52 pm

John Shurna was a solid player at Northwestern. He averaged 20 PPG and shot 44% from behind the arc. He reminds me of a Steve Nowak