Atlanta Hawks: Wings are the thing
The Hawks are interested in free agent forward Anthony Randolph, as reported today by Marc Spears of Yahoo! Sports. The Hawks also remain in contact with the Magic about trade possibilities for Dwight Howard.
But the more pressing concern for the Hawks is signing a small forward after they agreed to trade away Marvin Williams and Joe Johnson.
“We have to look at the wing area to bring somebody in that can help us,” Drew said. “With having the six spots filled [including] the two draft picks on the roster, solidifying on the wing becomes more of a priority than a ‘big.’ We could add another big but, right now, certainly the priority is strengthening the wing area and then possibly adding another big.”
As things stand now, Atlanta’s options include playing one of Josh Smith, Anthony Morrow or DeShawn Stevenson at small forward. Smith was able to play the wing effectively in certain matchups last season but neither he nor Morrow or Stevenson is a natural for the position.
The Hawks are interested in Rashard Lewis and Courtney Lee. They’ve also reportedly inquired about O.J. Mayo.
Other free-agent wings still on the board include Matt Barnes, Grant Hill, Carlos Delfino, Antawn Jamison, Mickael Pietrus, C.J. Miles and Tracy McGrady.
The Hawks can offer a contract that starts as high as the non-taxpayer mid-level exception maximum of $5 million. It appears that the first wave of free-agent signings isn’t quite over as players look for money and/or contending teams to join. The Hawks could still be a pretty good team next season but clearly no longer are as attractive to free agents as they were last season, when they could sell the possibility of a strong postseason run.
With that in mind, expect the Hawks to zero in on free agents to sign once the market settles.
“There’s been some surprising things that have happened with free agents,” Drew said. “Our stand is just to continue to look at possibilities that can help our ball club. There are still some interesting names out there. We’ve had contact with a number of free agents and we want to bring in guys that can play right away, whether they start or come off the bench.”
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Slimjr
July 7th, 2012
1:09 am
Gdad, I have this feeling my gut that D12 maybe headed to the Lakers..
IMHO D12 is a better all around player than Bynum anyway….Would be an upgrade for the Lakers…
“By Alex Groberman, Fri, July 06, 2012
Remember how 24 hours ago, after the Steve Nash trade was confirmed, Los Angeles Lakers management quietly indicated they were content with the team as presently constructed?
Those were good times…
…too bad Lakers management doesn’t actually seem content with the team as presently constructed.
Look, if L.A. makes another move this summer (and that’s a big if), it will be one of two deals: 1.) a trade to acquire Howard or 2.) a trade to get rid of Pau Gasol.
There are really no other potential transactions on the horizon. And, in all honesty, even those two deals are somewhat unlikely now. L.A. hasn’t gotten anything even remotely resembling a fair trade offer for Gasol’s services to this point, and Howard continues to be extremely reluctant about being adorned in purple and gold.
One of those trades could happen at some point, obviously; however, you also have to figure that there is a reason why neither has (yet).
Here is the latest rumor about Howard possibly landing in Tinseltown (via Jackie Pepper by way of ProBasketballTalk):
The Los Angeles Lakers are considering an offer from the Orlando Magic that would send Dwight Howard to L.A. in exchange for Andrew Bynum, a source close to the situation tells PepperOnSports.com.
I know, I know. You’ve heard it all before. Here’s the fun part:
The source says the Lakers have informed one player that he might be part of the package deal and that he could be traded at any moment.
So there you go. It’s not much of a rumor, but it’s what’s out there right now.
Who could this potential player be? Anyone, really.
It probably isn’t Bynum himself because, well, that would be awkward. It could possibly be Metta World Peace, but it’s hard to envision him being able to stay quiet about something like that. It could be one of the auxiliary pieces that would have to accompany Bynum and Peace in order to make the money for a trade work (Josh McRoberts, Christian Eyenga, etc.), but does L.A. brass really care enough about any of those guys to tip their hand on an impending deal?
We’ll find out soon enough, I suppose.”
Yes we all will….
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
1:12 am
Wouldn`t this team be stronger and more balanced:
[1] Teaguer / D.Harris
[2] D.Harris / JJenkins / perhaps Mayo ?
[3] Josh / Randolph ? / or maybe Iguodala
[4] Al / or Josh
[5] Zaza / or Al
The above team could easily be obtained by:
* signing Mayo and or Randolph
* possibly trading Josh for Iguodala + +
I`m not saying a marriage of D.Howard to Atl would be horrible;
-unless-
we gave up too much !
Therefore, we didn`t have a balanced competitive team with him.
Dwight has shown:
* He is not a leader
* He does not make his teammates better
* He must have a supporting strong cast
* And it`s all about him !
Josh, for all his talent does not compliment Dwight`s skill.
Josh and Dwight are not near diverse enough in their overall game.
Neither is known for being a rock solid foundation upon which to build.
*[maturity, make-up, basketball IQ, leadership, intangibles, etc]
Although Josh more so than Dwight.
Josh being the more mature of the two … that`s scary.
* -and I like Josh-
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
1:29 am
O’b, I wouldn’t do it either. Just trying to find different options in the quiet days of summer, lol.
G’D, your opposition to want to add a top 5 player to the Hawks line up, is interesting. The last team to win a title without a top 5 player, not named the Detroit Pistons, was who? You’d probably have to go back to Philly’s title, depending on how you ranked Erving during that season. Think about this, Howard CAN NOT make more on his next contract, than what the Hawks were paying Joe Johnson for his annual salary. You do realize that the Hawks were paying Kirk and Marvin a combined $16 million last season to give minimum production at their positions? So quick equation right quick. D12 is taken Joe’s old salary slot. You take Al’s salary spot (because he would be traded) and divide it into three parts of $6 million, $3 million, and $3 million. You add one of those $3 million to Josh’s current salary to bring it up to $15 million in his new contract. And you take the other $3 million and add it to the $16 million you were giving Kirk and Marvin to do nothing, and you now have $19 million dollar slot to pay a superstar in CP3. And you’re left with $6 million more to split between a raise for Teague, and another back up center with Zaza now gone. So you now have 3 highly productive players combining for a salary of less than $55 million. And you have close to $17-19 million left to fill out the roster without even going into luxury tax.
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
1:38 am
G’d, you’re saying D12 has shown he’s not a leader. But he has LEAD his team to the Finals with a backup starting at point guard, and a jump shooter for a PF. Garnett NEVER did that in Minnesota. Yet he ended up leading his team to the finals. And the season Minnesota went to the WCF, it was rumored that Cassell and Sprewell were the leaders in the locker room. If D12 is putting up these numbers when he is ‘childish’, then more players need to be childish as well. You say D12 quit on his teammates (although he had the same career numbers as always), but did Kobe not quit on his team when he demanded a trade, and played over 3 weeks of passive basketball to prove a point? Also, you seem to think that if Ferry acquires D12, that will be the lone move that he does, and nothing else would follow. If Ferry is engaged in serious talks with Orlando, I’m certain that he has a good blue print of how he will build the team with Josh and D12. I doubt Ferry is the type who wakes up in the morning and says “What to do now?”.
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
1:39 am
Ra’mon
Garnett never quit on his teammates … Never !
Are you serious … Paul pierce = questionable basketball IQ ?
Where in the world did you dig that up ?
Listen – I made a few valid points.
If you wish to counter my points – do so.
I was not discussing KG or Paul Pierce.
If you wish to debate those in a comparison and contrast
of competitive nature, basketball IQ, intangibles, leadership,
bein` good teammates, etc, etc, etc. I`ll be happy to do so.
-but-
That was never my point – comparing Josh or Dwight to others.
I was only stating a fact as to how they are.
-plus-
I still think giving up too much through trade is not the way to go.
A greater point that seems to have gone unnoticed;
I think Josh is twice the man that is Dwight.
I would much prefer to stimulate the chemistry
that is already established between two talents that are more diverse
Josh and AL, and let them grow without the impingement of Iso-Joe.
All the while hanging on to Teaguer and Zaza.
Steadily adding components into a champion !
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
1:44 am
Another thing, you say D12 needs a strong supporting cast around him. Well, duh! How did Kobe do before he got another all star? How many games did Ginobli or Parker come to the rescue of Duncan in the playoffs? How many rings did Jordan win without Pippen? Bird played with 3-4 hall of fame players depending up on the season, and Magic did as well. Ewing never got another all star to play with him, and he never got a ring either, same thing with Mourning (the one he got late in career doesn’t count). In fact, the first ring Hakeem got when MJ retired the entire season, was the only time you can say that one player lead an entire team without another all star present (and that’s only one season because Clyde came the next).
pointguardslim
July 7th, 2012
1:44 am
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/07/06/walking-dead-comic-con-poster-boasts-michonne-rick-governor/
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
1:51 am
Ra`mon
I trust Mr Ferry.
That was never the question.
I gave my opinion.
My statement that if dwight & Josh are the only two left;
Al, Jeff, Zaza, are gone … draft picks spent …;
$ used for Dwight & Josh to re-sign;
is there enough left for a championship team ?
Yes, that is my question ?
Chris Paul ain`t leavin` LA.
I do not believe Josh + Dwight have what it takes to be the
cornerstone, backbone, of a champion.
More so Dwight than Josh.
Dwight Howard is pyrite – “fools gold” !
Tremendous talent;
but he is a narcissist who quit on his teammates,
why do you contest this fact.
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
1:54 am
Ra`mon @ 1:44 am
You are makin` my point for me.
-thanks-
Rev in Tampa
July 7th, 2012
1:55 am
I’m surprised the Nash trade to LA was able to surprise us on the Hawks blog since we have an inside source for the Suns lockerroom. We have COUSIN BOO-BOO. But I forget who’s cousin he is.
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
1:58 am
G’dad, Garnett did quit on his teams two seasons in Minnesota! And Garnett for the first 8-9 seasons of his career was anything but clutch. Do you not realize Skip Bayless called Kevin Garnett “Garnott” for a decade? And Garnett used to be my favorite for years, so I used to watch many games of his.
Paul Pierce has had 8 seasons in where he averaged LESS than 1.0 assist more than turnovers. Paul Pierce wasn’t considered a winner. He was considered a chunker who didn’t play defense. If you think at any point of his career, Pierce was a better complete player than what Dwight is, that would be saying a lot about your view of basketball.
I know you weren’t talking about the big three. But what I’m saying is, all of these flaws you say about Dwight, he still manages to produce and lead his teams deep into the playoffs consistently. That is something Garnett, Pierce, and other superstars never did without playing with another superstar or all star.
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
2:05 am
Ra`mon
Let me simplify my philosophy of basketball.
It`s *’`five`’* guys working together like a well oiled machine.
You play your best five players that play together.
Basketball is a team sport.
Basketball is the ultimate team sport / no platooning;
and all players play both ends of the court / field.
Over the course of 82 games plus the play-offs;
a team is going to need depth, substitutes, replacements.
Also there are strategic match-ups which should be exploited
with every opportunity.
Every game your top two guys are not going to be a physical peak.
-and-
Two players cannot guard five.
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
2:11 am
G’dad, you said I’m making your point. But you’re missing the point. The point is in each of those cases, the franchise player and superstar was acquired first, and THEN they built around that player. Parker, Bowen and Ginobli came after Duncan. Gasol came after Kobe. As I said when the big three came together, they had less than 7 players on the roster. If you’re rebuilding a house, you have to knock down the posts and walls so you can redo the foundation (super star). So if trading Al, and a back up center or 4th year pg means getting a big piece of that foundation, than you do that. You get me Dwight, Josh, and enough cap room to bring in another all star, and THEN you fill out the roster with what is needed.
Also you said Josh and Dwight game is too similar. But in my opinion, Josh was one of the top three facilitators for others on the team. Dwight can’t do that as well. They both dominate the paint on defense. Josh and Dwight on the defensive boards would lead to 70-80% of the rebounds on defense landing in a Hawks’ player hands. Dwight in the post gives Josh more in rhythm jumpers where his feet is set, compared to so much Iso, And Josh on the block gives Dwight opportunities under the goal from Josh’s running left hook that leads to the opposing center helping out. Josh is a much better passer than Al, and Josh finishes in traffic better than Al. Dwight and Josh would EASILY be the best 4 & 5 combo in the league on offense and defense.
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
2:16 am
G’dad, you’re saying two players can not guard five players, that’s common sense. But even with Josh and Dwight, you’re still left with over $40 million to fill 10 positions. What championship team you know, that doesn’t have AT LEAST 3 players making more than $13 million or 4 players making more than $10 million? A good GM knows how to take three highly productive players making more $13 million and surround them with specialists in different areas of the game, to build a winner.
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
2:21 am
Ra`mon
You are significantly more qualified than Skip Bayless
to make any basketball assessment you please.
I`ll take your word any day over his.
I am not comparing ability;
any singular member of the Big Three to D.Howard.
I am speaking of Dwight Howard – Period.
I am not casting aspersions upon DH`s talent.
I am saying he has not improved some of his skills:
*free throw shooting … *absence of a go to post move
to name two.
However, `tis intangibles, or lack thereof, that alarm me !
Ra'mon
July 7th, 2012
2:22 am
G’D, I love basketball. And love debating and discussing, so could spend hours conversing about this and more. Its all out of the love for the game, lol. And I respect your view.
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
2:38 am
Okay, I have never been good with aritmatic.
Dwight will make $20+ mil.
Josh will make upwards of $15 mil.
I do not see $40 mil left.
But thank you for explaining it to me.
In 2013 the top unrestricted FA`s are:
Chris Paul – ain`t comin`
Al Jefferson – why
Paul Millsap – Power Forward
Grandad
July 7th, 2012
2:41 am
Ra`mon in response to your 2:22 am post
-Same here-
Respectfully,
G-dad
Najeh Davenpoop
July 7th, 2012
2:47 am
Ramon, I’m on your side of this little debate you have going with Grandad, but quoting Skip Bayless only serves to weaken your argument.
Ray
July 7th, 2012
3:22 am
Ok as I was saying earlier DH12 doesn’t want to play for ATL if he did ATL would be on his short list and that not the case, maybe he feels as there is nothing in ATL to get to the next level, it would soooo nice to prove him wrong even if he is L.A.
Ray
July 7th, 2012
3:24 am
Rumor: Lakers tell one player he may be traded for Howard
MaconHawk
July 7th, 2012
3:29 am
What are the chances Sergei Gladyr comes over this year?
BravesFan79
July 7th, 2012
3:55 am
Anyone whos willing to throw away Horford and Smith i have 2 words for you: Mark Cuban.
The Mavericks have been one of my favorite teams in the west for years now, and instead of building up on a championship roster… they tore down. Sad. Now they will get no big name free agents in the next 2 years, Jason Terry dissed them, and so did Steve Nash and Jason Kidd.
Maybe a few years down the road they will land a big name. But so what, by that time Dirk will be over the hill, and wont be as effective. The Mavericks wont sniff the finals again for a long time. ALL because Cuban was obsessed with the overrated Deron Williams. SAD!
SuckerFree
July 7th, 2012
4:29 am
@ Pointguardslim
“Suckerfree Hibbert will injure you, Perkins will beat you up. Marc Gasol is a big center.
Do you want to put your best talent against the physical goons of the NBA, night in night out? Thats stupid.
Same goes for Josh who gets a balky knee 2 playoffs in a row now. It’s taxing to play guys out of position all season long.”
Hibbert is the most overrated player in the NBA. The boy is trash. LMAO at he will injure you….one freak accident. Al Horford dominates that guy every time they play. Ronny Turiaf can guard Hibbert.
Perkins can not score period all he is physical and vocal. Horford will dominate him as well. And if it’s that big of a deal send Zaza out there to take care of business.
Marc Gasol is weak as well. Head to head Horford dominates that guy.
You’re basing you’re argument purely off of size which is wrong. And it’s not like Al Horford is a small guy anyway. Perkins 610-270. Gasol 7ft 265, Horford 610-250.
They are slightly bigger but it’s not like they are behemoths. They are not beasts like that either and Horford produces more. Plus it’s not like we play them that often. Grizzlies and Thunder twice a year big deal. The only time you need a “true center” is when you play Dwight Howard and we’ve seen Zaza body that guy up before.
SuckerFree
July 7th, 2012
5:31 am
You don’t construct a team to beat one specific team because you may end up never seeing that team in the playoffs.
You construct a team to beat the league. The only team that the Hawks will undoubtedly without question have to go through is the Miami Heat.
Their center is Joel Anthony and he’s not good. So you build where they are weak (relatively). PG & Center.
Hawks already have an All Star center but if they can get Dwight Howard then you do it because then maybe just maybe CP3 would entertain the Hawks and another Big 3. And then hope and pray your SF and SG can keep up and be at least decent versus LBJ & Wade.
on a side note….Josh Smith to the Olympics!
Just Joe
July 7th, 2012
6:47 am
I really don’t think that Orlando wants to send Dwight to Atlanta. Same division. How many times do we play them each year? I think they want Dwight out West and will take a lesser deal to make it happen. With Duhon to Lakers for Bynum & MWP is not a terrible deal if Bynum will sign long term.
Nelson, JRich, MWP, Anderson, and Bynum, with Redick, QRich, Turkoglu, and Big Baby off the bench is a playoff team if MWP doesn’t do anything crazy. Chemistry will be real important with that group. It could bury them in the lottery, or they could ride it and the wide shoulders of Bynum deep in to the playoffs.
KevinM
July 7th, 2012
6:52 am
Sucker, you make valid points and those types of ‘beat-1-team’ moves have been proven. Ask Danny….he prepped for ORL only to get Boston and CLE was unprepared.
I also have stated you gave to have a strong PG for D12 and Josh. I would like to see if Danny could pry Bledsoe away from the Clips for Zaza and have him either in place to take over the reins or if we have to remove Teague. Bledsoe is extra on the Clips now that they have Billups and JC2. The Clips are thin up front.
Before D12
Josh / Al / Bledsoe / Teague / Stevenson or FA
After
Josh / D12 / Bledsoe /Harris / Stevenson or FA
Our front five has to be rebuilt…..knuckleheads or not, as a pair, they look formidable on paper.
The big question is: will Josh go back to the post like so many of us are clamoring for him to do? Are we still going to be subjected to all those jumpers?
Just Joe
July 7th, 2012
7:11 am
If no Dwight, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Hawks form a starting five of: Teague, Mayo, Iguodala, Smith, and Horford.
How do we get there?
Harris, Pachulia, Petro, and a pick for Iguodala.
Morrow and Farmar for S&T Mayo.
I like the athleticism, ball handling, and defensive potential of the starting five. My only question would be, who steps up to be the team leader? Iguodala?
Marcus
July 7th, 2012
7:50 am
Question: I see we are interested in A. Randolph.
In his brief career, it seems like his stats (8.5 pts, 5.1 reb, in 17 min.) don’t suggest starting material and appear to be below than Marvin’s career averages.
Are we wooing him to be starting SF and if so, do we expect the “new” offense (minus JJ and with Smoove and Al as the focus) to be more beneficial to his talents such that he will exceed what he has done to date?
Just Joe
July 7th, 2012
8:55 am
Knicks think the Hawks might be in on Camby as well.
brigadierjerry
July 7th, 2012
9:33 am
Just joe that lineup you have with Andre Iguodua isnt bad.
I still approve Ferry moving Joe J contract and Marvin. I think Ferry will do the right thing. This year if Dwight isnt attainable then just field a team that doesnt have long term contracts and have a lot of Cap space at the end of the year to make a run if Dwight if stilll unsigned or some other free agents.
I think the big thing is if Dwight signs with another team, will Smith wants to stay and if he bolts do you then just look to move Horford and Teaque and go into another direction rebuild or build around those two and get some free agents not on the level of a Dwight or Chris Paul who I dont think will be coming to Atlanta next year
I think with a few small moves the Hawks can be a playoff team this year as I stated before probably between a six and eight seed. If you look at the landscape NJ replaces Orlando as a playoff team and the only difference i see is Atlanta will be a lower seeded playoff team this year
ryan
July 7th, 2012
9:36 am
Are the Hawks in the D12 sweepstakes or not .
brigadierjerry
July 7th, 2012
9:38 am
Also I think Ivan will come back. I am not sure I see a big market with him elsewhere although with the way teams are giving out contracts it wouldnt suprise me if he gets blown away but i think his past and anger issues will scare off some teams
Jason S
July 7th, 2012
10:05 am
Ra’mon
July 7th, 2012
1:38 am
“G’d, you’re saying D12 has shown he’s not a leader. But he has LEAD his team to the Finals with a backup starting at point guard, and a jump shooter for a PF. ”
You mean ALL STAR Jameer Nelson, because that is the year Jameer had an absolutely excellent year and made the all star team. I guess you also mean ALL STAR Rashard Lewis, because, yes, the year Orlando made the Finals, Rashard Lewis was an all star. (And don’t forget Hedo was having the best year of his career that year AND even Orlando’s bench performed well that year.)
Just because Jameer and Rashard are bench materials now does not mean they were not very, very good players a few years ago. Orlando had a squad that year, and that just could not quite get it done.
BravesFan79
July 7th, 2012
10:08 am
I know one thing, if the Hawks trade Al or Josh for Dwight… and he leaves the next summer, the Hawks are going to be BAD for a loonnnggggg time. It will make us crave the Joe Johnson years. And we arent getting Chris Paul. Lets not be the Mavericks and sacrifice everything for a few people who never show up. Only difference is Cuban had a championship roster… making him look even dumber now.
BravesFan79
July 7th, 2012
10:19 am
Alot of you are selling Anthony Morrow short. In Drews pass it around/ jump shot offence, Morrow might just fit better than Joe did. He automatically becomes my starting SG on the Hawks! Will he be as good on defense as Joe was? No. But hes a better outside shooter, and wont stand around dribbling the ball making the offense stale. Even if the Hawks trade for Howard i don’t get rid of Morrow. Were gonna need all the 3ball shooters we can get, and hes one of the best.
Here is Morrow scoring 42 points including 8 threes against the TWolves last season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-UfyoJXcI&feature=fvwrel
northcyde
July 7th, 2012
10:23 am
BravesFan . . . the problem with guys like Morrow, is that they’re too one-dimensional to be a difference maker on a nightly basis. Morrow, like Kyle Korver, are great spot up,. open shot shooters. But are you giving the ball or calling a play for Morrow at the end of a game, in order to keep a lead, tie a game up, or win the game?
I listed yesterday that after Morrow had that 42 point game, he promptly scored 19 points in the next 3 games . . . shooting 7 – 31 FG . . and 2 – 14 from 3 point range.
That’s why he’s Anthony Morrow and not Joe Johnson.
City
July 7th, 2012
10:25 am
The Jazz are excited about getting Marvin…. Scroll down to the Podcast Tip off July 3rd….
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northcyde
July 7th, 2012
10:28 am
If to not pour more salt in the wound, or wonder “what if we made the right draft choice in 2005″ . . here is Deron Williams on why he stayed in Brooklyn.
“I actually thought that’s where I was going to go,” he said. “I had the meetings and it kind of changed my mind because once I got out of the meeting with Dallas and saw the way they were going and the team they were putting out there, and I saw that we just made a trade for Joe Johnson and I felt like that team for a longer time would be the better team.
“Joe got me over the hump. I’ve never played with anybody like him, a guy on the wing that can get his own shot and also get me involved and is a great defender. We could have one of the top backcourts in the NBA for sure.”
Williams struggled with his decision to pick the Nets over the Mavericks.
“It was a hard decision. It was my hometown, the team that I grew up watching, would have loved to play for and my family, would have loved for them to see me play,” Williams said, according to the newspaper. “I kind of felt I let the city I’m from down because they wanted me there so bad. It was a really tough decision, but I think it ultimately came down to where I felt I had a better chance to win for a longer period of time.”
************
One man’s “overpaid garbage” is another man’s “overpaid treasure”.
northcyde
July 7th, 2012
10:32 am
And that last highlighted statement is ultimately why “cap space” is overrated, when it comes to these top notch free agents. All of those guys not only want the cash, they want to go to places where they can ultimately win.
If you don’t have the advantage of having that guy’s “Bird Rights” when he becomes an unrestricted free agent, you better be a destination in which a guy believes that he can win ( or at least have some playoff success ).
If you’re not that type of destination, you’re going to be forced to overpay for somebody, or two or 3 players.
Rufus1
July 7th, 2012
10:36 am
“If you don’t have the advantage of having that guy’s “Bird Rights” when he becomes an unrestricted free agent, you better be a destination in which a guy believes that he can win ( or at least have some playoff success ).
If you’re not that type of destination, you’re going to be forced to overpay for somebody, or two or 3 players.”- Northcyde
Preach… Unless Teague, Al or Josh become that player, we are still just the Hawks.
THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE
July 7th, 2012
10:41 am
Wow Grandad just wow….I take it you were tipsey at 2am. Paul Peirce and Dh could be cornerstones on any team in the league. Dwight is the best C in the league. Pierce is top 5 at SF even at age 34 ….Next
Sum of yall are just setting youselves up for disappointment. CP3 is staying in Clipperl and Trading for DH and having him Josh and sum bench guys is a terrible idea. We are not sellingoff the future to get him here for one dam yr. that would be stupid imo. Let him sign here next yr this time if he really wants to be a hawk. I dont trust the dude …look how hes been waffling back n forth with orlando. One minute he wants to stay the next ….”They Black mailed me” HUH???
Buy out farmar and stevenson
Sign: Gerald Green -Delfino -Peitrus or any combination of the two.
Call Houston about Royce White…I like this dude -no homo…6′8 260 Point Forward. He could play the SF…Handle/Jumper…Nice
Houston has a boat load of Forwards. Maybe we could shake White and Dalembert off the tree…
Slim Jr. Dang man “U gratuated from troll to hater” lol. Watch it man Big Ray is the Po Po….. U know how they do it….
Trade LD, all his JC Pennys suita and his entire staff for Jerry Sloan. Git’er Dun
myrak43
July 7th, 2012
10:49 am
Rufus1 @ 10:36
“Preach… Unless Teague, Al or Josh become that player, we are still just the Hawks.”
EXACTLY!! Teague and Horford are not that type of player. neither is Josh but he is closer than the other two. so I really don’t understand why some don’t want to trade either teague or Horford under any circumstances. I would move both teague and horford in a heart beat for Dwight.
another thing Grandad. how can you be so sure that Chris Paul will not sign with the Hawks next summer?, especially if atlanta already has Dwight in the fold. I bet two weeks ago you also thought there was no way Joe Johnson gets traded because no team would take his huge contract (my self included on that one).
THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE
July 7th, 2012
10:49 am
Why would we want a 39 yr old Camby. I hope we get desperate at the trade deadline and next summer. We will have a good amout of cap space we just need to be careful who we sign. Definitely dont want to follow the joe dumars model from 2 yrs ago. Signing the likes of Villenueva and ben Gordon… Be patient my blog people this will be a process…I MUS say I feel a little better with Ferry making the moves……
THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE
July 7th, 2012
10:54 am
Typo -I hope we dont get desperate
Rufus1
July 7th, 2012
11:03 am
myrak43,
I would move Teague and Horford also, if I thought D12 would stay…. If we trade those players, we would be the Nets next year….No talent on the roster and trading for someones overpriced vet and praying that is enough to keep D12.
myrak43
July 7th, 2012
11:04 am
THE IMMORTAL…. I agree with you and I disagree with you. I agree with you with the Hawks do not need to get desperate in over reaching in free agents or trades and killing our cap for 2013 unless it is a no brainer type player i.e. Dwight. I would rather play the season out with what we have.
I disagree with you that we shouldn’t trade for Dwight. Horford is a nice player but if he can get you Dwight you absolutely do it.
oh and I like Royce White as well, but what would we offer Houston? he isn’t worth Horford or Smith, now that we now Smith is open to remaining a Hawks. Teague? I wouldn’t do it because we would not have a point guard. well we do have Devin Harris so maybe I would do that…. but would houston?
myrak43
July 7th, 2012
11:08 am
Rufus1,
How did that work out for the Nets?
and the overpriced vet and the hawks would be praying is enough to keep D12 would be chris paul.
Wabe
July 7th, 2012
11:16 am
The difference though is, now you’re the ’same Hawks (with no superstars)’ with an very realistic possibility of actually landing a guy capable of being on that level.
I heard someone say it, can’t remember who, but he made a great point. The Hawks were stuck – - they were never bad enough to get a good enough draft pick to land a stud in the NBA draft but they were never good enough to get over the hump. So, either you play out the duration of Joe’s contract and remain what you were, or speed up the process (while Horford and Smith are still young and entering their prime years), and look to use that money to get some peices around them.
Point blank. I don’t see how you can argue it was a bad move. You just got rid of one of the worst NBA contracts in history + an irrelevant wing man (duck). You’re loaded with cap space. Even if you don’t land a D12 or CP3, you can still get players that gave you what Joe gave you at a much better rate this time around OR you can get a collection of players that can give you what Joe gave you.
Bottom line, there are possibilities now, whereas there weren’t any for years. We’ve always been adding B-team rated talent to the end of our bench offseason after offseason as if that would get us over the hump, and it never did. Joe wasn’t getting any younger, and our team wasn’t getting any better. It is what it is.
Rod from College Park
July 7th, 2012
11:25 am
Grandad’s been smoking again. LOL