Atlanta Hawks: Hawks agree to trade Joe Johnson to New Jersey, Marvin Williams to Utah

The Hawks and Nets have agreed to terms on a trade that would send All-Star guard Joe Johnson to Brooklyn for multiple players with expiring contracts and a first-round draft pick, according to a person with knowledge of the deal.

Update: The Hawks also have agreed to trade forward Marvin Williams to Utah for point guard Devin Harris, according to a person with knowledge of the agreement.

Trades can’t be officially consummated until the NBA moratorium ends on July 11 but the person said the Hawks have agreed on the framework of the deals with the Nets and Jazz.

The person said in exchange for Johnson, the Hawks would receive Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro, DeShawn Stevenson and Jordan Williams from the Nets. Atlanta also would receive the lottery-protected, 2013 first-round draft pick that the Nets acquired in a trade with the Rockets.

Williams is meeting with the Nets and Mavericks today. The Nets plan to pair Johnson with Williams and re-sign free-agent center Brook Lopez to form the core of the team when it plays its first season in Brooklyn in 2012-13.

It was initially believed Atlanta’s deal with the Nets is contingent on Williams agreeing to re-sign with Brooklyn but multiple reports now say the agreement will remain in place even if Williams decides to go elsewhere.

If the deal goes through, the Hawks would be left with less talent but with more ability to make major moves in the future after shedding Johnson’s contract. Such flexibility was the stated goal of Hawks GM Danny Ferry after he was hired last week.

Johnson, 31, is owed nearly $90 million over the final four years of a contract he signed in summer 2010. It was the richest contract in the league at the time, though Derrick Rose now is owed more than Johnson since signing a contract extension.

The Hawks could be in position to clear roughly $30 million in salary-cap space after the 2012-13 season. Chris Paul and Dwight Howard are among the players eligible to become free agents next summer.

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Turtle Man

July 2nd, 2012
5:16 pm

way to follow Twitter, MC!

“Live Action! Aye, Aye, Aye!!!”

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
5:16 pm

Guess we will be a lottery team this season.

tckr83

July 2nd, 2012
5:17 pm

That was fast… good job Danny boy.

Swingman912

July 2nd, 2012
5:17 pm

Ok!!!!! Good move Ferry. I know we get a pick, but is it protected?

Atlhawksfan

July 2nd, 2012
5:18 pm

Grandmaster JeJe no we wont we will be a better team without Joe

Josh Smith

July 2nd, 2012
5:19 pm

Wut dis gotta do wit me doe shawty?????

PLUTO!

Peachtree John

July 2nd, 2012
5:19 pm

I just hope that it is true. Best wishes to Joe and congratulations for getting the contract that he has, but bigger congratulations to the Hawks for getting Joe out of town. And the naysayers said it could not be done. HA. This is refreshing. Now to get a great NBA coach..

Ohmagawdyes Ohmagawd

July 2nd, 2012
5:19 pm

NO SLEEP TIL…

Jae Evolution

July 2nd, 2012
5:20 pm

It should’ve been Marshon or no deal…

Vol4ever

July 2nd, 2012
5:20 pm

So who replaces the 18/4/4 a game that Joe gave?

Rod from College Park

July 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

Please let this go thru. We need Brooks and Green back.

Rev in Tampa

July 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

Yea! Next year will suck but the future is looking brighter.

Danny Ferry

July 2nd, 2012
5:22 pm

One step back, two steps forward, Hawks fans.

Gimme two years and I’ll make you a believer.

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
5:22 pm

Swingman 912:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

To clarify, Nets won’t send their own future 1st to Atlanta, but as @daldridgetnt reports, they’ll ship ‘13 protected pick via Houston.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:22 pm

Give credit to the ASG, who have finally gotten out of the way and let the GM do his job (wrong or right).

joe

July 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

im happy we are getting rid of that contract but hopefully we can use that money to get some good freeagents or maybe ferry wants to build around al and josh which isnt a bad thing in my opinion

Atlhawksfan

July 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

The tam will be better without Joe dribbling the ball 18 seconds off the shot clock.
Ferry should of been here long time ago

BILLY KNIGHT

July 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

DURRRRRRRRRR WUT???? UPSIDE!

Anwar sadat

July 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

Congratulations to Ferry, now let’s go hit this free agency and spend some money/trades

Dawg Haus

July 2nd, 2012
5:24 pm

I like Danny Ferry already!

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:25 pm

Frm David Aldridge;

Nets “very close” to acquiring Joe Johnson from Hawks for Farmar, Petro, Morrow, Williams, Stevenson and protected pick .

I’m ok with Farmar, Williams and a first round pick. But Petro, Morrow and Stevenson? I hope we’re getting Brooks too if that is the case.

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
5:25 pm

Too bad Marshon’s not included in that deal :( But still a great move if they can pull it off.

Rod from College Park

July 2nd, 2012
5:26 pm

Oh no. I don’t like this deal without Brooks or Green included. WTF. Lottery here we come.

BrittishAnger

July 2nd, 2012
5:26 pm

I just drooled a little….

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:26 pm

If this trade happens, I think Marvin should be amnestied asap.

Anwar sadat

July 2nd, 2012
5:27 pm

I would have liked to have Brooks, but we can still get somebody in FA, and we also have trading chips from nets

Clayton Bigsby

July 2nd, 2012
5:27 pm

Well it is done. Now I have to honor my end of the bet. I will be doing the “Jig” in the middle of Atlantic Station, wearing a pair of chaps with the arse cut out.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

David Aldridge: Current construction of deal would also keep MarShon Brooks, Gerald Green in Brooklyn. Nets want to keep both.

With no Brooks, and Stevenson instead of Green…I don’t like that deal for the Hawks. However, maybe Ferry has other tricks up his sleeve

Ra'mon

July 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

I’m certain that Ferry will turn around and trade some of these pieces for a player that he wants. Is the Houston pick lottery protected or top 3 protected?

Roy Kittles

July 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm

Yeah hawks ferry no so bad after all

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm

Back in the lottery without Iso? lol. Cant see that happening.

steve brown

July 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm

My opinion is even if Williams goes to Dallas, Brooklyn (liked typing that) will still want Joe. They are moving into a new building and would possibly need Joe even more if Williams is gone.

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm

I have mixed feelings.

I really liked Joe (probably one of the few on the blog, I am guessing).

He is a legit star. Chances are the Hawks are not going to be able to replace what Joe brings to the court … at least not in a single player.

Well, maybe this will give the Hawks the financial flexibility to build a much deeper, more well-rounded team …

Ward

July 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Well Ferry just filled the bench with players that are all on one year contracts, or he now has even more expiring contracts to add to Josh Smith for trade bait…Also, Dwight Howard is a free agent next year; theoretically we could sign him with all the cap space we now have. Howard and Hortford front court would be pretty nice.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Maybe JJ can actually play the role of recruiter now and contact Deron Williams :twisted:

Atlhawksfan

July 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

No doubt in my mind that Ferry is going to do something that will turn this franchise around. This guy knows what he’s doing. Finally a smart gm in the Atl

kevint

July 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

hawks finally have a center yayaya 7-0 good

bigdave

July 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

Jigga was my favorite Hawk. Im excited about a new direction, wherever that may lead us..

AtlTodoLaVida

July 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

Joe is rare talent. Hope we get something good back.

jim

July 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

so lets see….

teague,jenkins,marvin,josh, and al
farmar,morrow,stevenson,zaza, and petro
williams off the bench..

sounds like miami is quaken in their shoes

Tumbledown

July 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

Getting rid of Joe Johnson is great no matter who we get back. By accelerating our slide toward a lottery pick, we accelerate possibly becoming a great team in the future. Of course, we will need a GM to actually make decent lottery picks. Without this trade and by keeping Joe Johnson, the team continues in the mediocre zone for several years with no actual hope of winning an NBA championship for many, many years.

jim

July 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

only big al, marvin and jenkins have contracts next year

TRADE MARVIN TOO DANNY PLEASE!!!!

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

Ra’mon,

I think the draft pick (coming from Houston) is top 14 protected in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Ouch.

FerryIStheMAN

July 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm

Danny Ferry is the Man! Possibly the best move an Atlanta GM has made ever!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm

God this makes up for the hideous display of weather this past weekend. Going to roll up some loud and enjoy this moment. Cap space is useless unless we spend it right.

Ferry is a great trader, now it’s time to put some ingredients together.

Devil's Advocate

July 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm

Jason S,

There will always be another good player available in the draft, via trade, or via free agency. Don’t shed tears for JJ. The Hawks need another great player. IMO, the Hawks still haven’t found a replacement for the star power that ‘Nique provided. JJ never came close to being the legit scoring threat that Nique was for an entire season much less any single playoff series. When the Hawks went down to Boston in 87-88, no one questioned Nique’s effort or desire to win. He probably out-played Bird for the series. That’s all you can ask out of your superstar.

Falcons85

July 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

Good job Ferry. Now lets go get Jason Terry Or trade Al and expiring contracts to Orlando for D12.
Amnesty Marvin.

Mike

July 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

But come on folks, we got one of the toxic contract in league traded, what else do yall want? A pony or something.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

Great job Danny Ferry. Excellent trade, and the first step to the rebuild this team desperately needs.

I haven’t been here for a couple of days, but I felt all along that the Hawks’ so-called “insistence on Brooks” was just a negotiating tactic. The Hawks didn’t want to take back long term salary, and the Nets didn’t want to give up Brooks. Eventually Ferry would drop the insistence on Brooks in exchange for the Nets dropping their insistence on a long term contract coming to the Hawks. Sure enough, Stevenson’s deal is the only multi-year deal, and it is not guaranteed after the first season.

Best trade this team has made since at least the Jamal Crawford trade.

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

To the vets of the board, I’m toasting a semi frozen bottle of Corona for you all, even you Northside.

Bob Weiss

July 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

What a horrible trade. Are we seriously trading a 6-time All Star and the face of the franchise for a bunch of spare parts and a pick?! Expiring contracts don’t win you games or get you to the playoffs. New Jersey became a much better team today. I don’t see how this move will convince Josh Smith to sign an extension.

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm

Wow……There really is a god. JJ and possibly Marvin hitting the bricks- I love this. Devin Harris for Marvin is fine by me -That yungn will forever be a scrub in this league regardless of coach or team. If the trade doesnt go through then amnesty Marvin ASAP…Do it now.

Ferry has done more in a few days than Sund/Knight had done in almost 10.

kj the spurs fan

July 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm

Great news for the Atlanta Hawks. Bad news for the Spurs. Why? We lost Danny Ferry. Good rid ins Joe Johnson. Hey hey hey good by.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

JJ will actually go to NY and play with some fire in his belly…angry that the Hawks traded him, and to show NY that he’s as great as his salary. Plus, the Nets have a coach that will use JJ in a better fashion than the Hawks.

If Williams, a true, and agressive PG, is with the Nets, then JJ will get a gazillion spot up jump shots, and score a lot of points. Howard also is looking to join the Nets, so hey could become a top contender in very quick fashion.

Too many times, with Teague on the floor, Josh, and others would bring the ball up court. With Williams, JJ will be free to run to his spot, and when the defense gathers around Williams, pass to JJ, and the jumper goes swish!

atlhawks4lyfegakevindavis@gmail.com

July 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

Boy, I hope D. Williams stays w/ the Nets so this will go through. Something tells me that if they get rid of Joe they will be able to keep Smith!!! I think Smoove’s talents are harder to replace than JJ’s are. I’m loving Danny Ferry right now.

thatwasdumb

July 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

No Marshon, wow.

Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde

July 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

With Joe we couldn’t get past the second round and we had no cap room to improve our team. This may be a step backward talent wise but this team reached its height last year.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

And Ferry did manage to wrangle a draft pick out of New Jersey — this will be Houston’s protected pick. Seeing where Houston is right now, that pick is likely to be in the mid to late teens unless they drastically revamp their roster in the next month.

This is a great deal even without Brooks.

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

Dont know if I want Deshawn in our lockerroom.

Jfreak13713

July 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

Good move for Johnson and the Hawks. Joe was never a true Number 1 guy and now that he is playing with Williams hopefully he can relax and just be good which he is! For the Hawks, this really frees up money to go after some free agents this year and next. I wouldn’t give up on Hawks this season lets see what kind of moves they can come up with but whatever happens removing this contract gives hope for the future.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

Next step: salary dump or amnesty Marvin.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

Stevenson Deal: 3 years, $6.9 mil deal. Only the first year is guaranteed being reported by Chad Ford.

For those fans that are on board with trading JJ for trash (Najeh :smile: ), please keep in mind that probably increases the likelihood of Josh leaving next season.

Josh Smith has said he wants to play in a better basketball market, and for an ownership that is more committed to winning a championship.

Trading JJ means the Hawks will probably take a step back, so their record will be worse, and I think attendance would drop.

If that happens, why would Josh stick around?

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

Yo MC, keep tabs on Northcyde, because when we get rid of Duck too he will be up in Tennessee getting ready to stumble off on of them mountains.

Hogans Word

July 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

I would take a player with a tenth of the skill so long as he shows heart and exemplifies the qualities of a leader. Joe Johnson’s lack of leadership capabilities is the difference between a 2nd round and out team and one that could have actually competed in the Eastern Conference Finals a few times in the past 5 years. N-n-n-nooooooooooo Johnson! Thank thy Hogan.

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

BobWeiss shut your pie hole…I’ll sacrifice a season or two to be a serious contender. We havent been serious contenders since Mookie Mutombo and Smitty were here.

Tommy

July 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

Don’t know if someone has said it yet, but the pick is protected 14th and down for three years.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:41 pm

“I’m ok with Farmar, Williams and a first round pick. But Petro, Morrow and Stevenson? I hope we’re getting Brooks too if that is the case.”

None of those Nets players will be on the Hawks’ roster a year from now. They are all expiring, including Stevenson whose deal isn’t guaranteed past the first season.

Expiring deals and a draft pick. Exactly what the Hawks needed.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

The Hawks getting a lot of junk players in return. LD is not going to know what to do to generate some offense.

I watched the Nets play a lot this year, and those guys played playground basketball. Some of it may have been because the Nets were out of the playoff running, the 2nd week of the season, but you’d like to think that they would still play for pride.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

northcyde,

Comments?

Jfreak13713

July 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

Wiess, I don’t think the Hawks really care if Smith signs an extension?? He COULD be next although now that Johnson is gone we could sure use him but would he REALLY stay after next season regardless if Johnson was here or not?

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

Congrats to Ivan The Terrible…..That man deserved a qualifying offer. Next we need to rid ourselves of LD and his cheap suites. 2013 2014= Cap space and a new coach lets roll baby…..YEAH!!!!

DBH

July 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

Like it or not, the Hawks had to do this deal. Joe’s contract was an albatross around the neck of the Hawks. Time to move forward. It’s a win-win. Joe wanted out and the Hawks were able to dump him and his contract. Good deal all-around, if you ask me.

tjhook

July 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

First, thank you Joe Johnson for being the star performer I thought you were. I have been entertained for the majority of the time you have been with the Atlanta Hawks. I also would NOT like to thank you for being a self-serving player for the last three years. Lebron and the Big Three in Miami showed you that taking a pay cut for the team can bring you treasures that cannot be bought. Now you will have to rely on others to get you that precious championship ring because you are not the player you used to be.
(EXHALES) . . . Ok, MC, how long does a player have to be on a NBA roster before they are traded again? I remember 60 days but I want to be sure. It is redundant to have players who do the exact same thing (Morrow, Jenkins)-shooting and (Petro, Collins)-space eaters. And does this mean that Josh is next. Who are we targeting for 2013 since that is the move now. Can you give us an idea of players that will be coming out then.

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

Suits- Arrow sux

michael

July 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

you could tell he didn’t want to be in atlanta. who the &%#* signed him to that contract anyway?? mediocore next year. i only really know of morrow since he’s from tech. he can light it up. still think hawks should keep j. smith though.

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

@ Najeh

That’s exactly what I’m talking about people don’t realize this is only the beginning Ferry has got bigger plans.

yoursporthousedotcom

July 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

Say what you want, but Deron, Joe, Brooks, and Howard is a formidable lineup.

PD

July 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

Great Trade! Keep J-Smoove

tjhook

July 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

Extra: If we were on a value-based concept, why did we draft Jenkins or at least trade down for him because he was not going at 24 or 25.

DannyFerryistheman

July 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

Bye bye Marvin. You are next.

CrαZy

July 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

Espn:
The Hawks, according to sources, would get Anthony Morrow; Jordan Farmar, Jordan Williams, Johan Petro, DeShawn Stevenson (via sign-and-trade) and the Rockets’ 2013 lottery protected first round pick. and the Rockets’ 2013 lottery protected first round pick.

Yeah we won’t be getting that draft pick!!

hawksfaninthewest

July 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

Joe gave us some good years but that contract was an albatross. We suddenly have flexibility and will be better if the long run…

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

Teague Farmar
Morrow Stevenson Jenkins
Williams
Smith I. Johnson Price
Horford Pachulia Petro

Two questions:
1) Now can the Hawks package together some of these spare parts and get a quality role player whose contract is expiring?
2) What is the best free agent out there that can be signed for a 1 year $4/5 million a year deal?

If no other meaningful move is made, the Hawks are looking at the 7th/8th seed. Not really where any team wants to be …

DannyFerryistheman

July 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm

the nets have given up on dwight according to chris broussard. deron, joe, g-wall, hump, lopez will be their starting 5 next year

Edward

July 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm

The reason you get rid of Joe is for next year not this year.They don’t expect Atlanta to go all the way this year so please fans keep an open mind.Ferry is getting the team ready to Dominate at the end of 2013.

Maggie

July 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm

This would be amazing for the Hawks. Joe Johnson’s contract for his worth always reminds me of Mike Hampton’s deal with the Braves. Go Hawks!

L

July 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm

you people on here think this is a great move. The only thing did was improve another team above us who will probably resign williams and get dwight in the long run. plus there is no idea what josh will do. thanks for bringing us back to loserville again

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

Well…it’s true that the deal reeks somewhat without Brooks or Green. However, that’s how it goes for the “can do” teams versus the “can’t do” teams (that would be us with our shaky owners).

It’s gonna hurt, no two ways about it.

Here’s the thing…what’s Ferry’s back-up plan? No, I don’t mean for adding more talent. I mean in case Deron Williams gets seduced by Mark Cuban. Everything I have read keeps saying the same thing – the deal is contingent on Williams re-signing with the Nets. If that doesn’t happen, then I guess the folks who are still sold on Joe as the ATL’s best and only savior will be happy, but what changes about the team?

That said, you have to wonder where Smith is headed…this may not be the only deal Ferry swings (assuming it happens).

“It’s about cap space”….heard this one before, but the differenc is that it’s Ferry we’re talking about. I trust him more than I do the “Mad Afro” (Billy Knight). He won’t sign Speedy Claxton or somebody like that.

Oh, and while John Jenkins tries to become the next Anthony Morrow on the same roster, we’ll have another backup PG in Farmar, so there’s no reason to keep Hinrich around.

Johan Petro – can we just cut him?

Jordan Williams – another young big guy prospect. Huh.

BasketballTopFan

July 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

GOOD LUCK Joe Johnson !!!!!

Atlanta basketball fans have enjoyed watching you play.

We would like to wish the Atlanta Hawks and new general manager Danny Ferry the best of luck and success in the 2012 / 2013 NBA season.

BasketballTopFan@Yahoo.com

Peanut gallery

July 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

Team is not good enough to win it. Blow it up.

wreckmaniac

July 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

Long past time to blow up this team and let your stars go to one of the many “win it all next year” teams.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

“For those fans that are on board with trading JJ for trash (Najeh ), please keep in mind that probably increases the likelihood of Josh leaving next season.”

I don’t mind. Ideally I’d like Josh to stay and a better player to be acquired, but if Josh makes it clear that he doesn’t want to re-sign with this team, I don’t mind trading him too. But like I’ve been saying since the beginning of this offseason, this team cannot get better until Joe is traded. Smart move by Ferry to take that big first step. Everything else gets easier from here.

I’d still try to see if the Magic would trade Dwight for Al + picks and see if they can convince Josh and Dwight to re-up here next year. Regarding Dwight, people need to chill with drawing conclusions from this report that he will only sign with Brooklyn. For one, they might not even have enough cap space after the Joe and Gerald Wallace deals. And secondly, Dwight changes his mind more frequently than a kindergartener. If the Hawks bring him here and he and Josh lead this team to some wins for a couple of months I could very easily see him decide to re-up here.

BIG DOG

July 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Rod from CP – I feel you bro no Green and Brooks in this deal, JUST DAM

You trade a star player and get nothing in return, this a bad deal for the Hawks.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Matt

July 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Now lets trade Al horford for Howard

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

@ Jason S

There is a chance to package a good bit of those players someone like Minnesota comes to mind people were talking about Derrick Williams as someone they wanted.

What I don’t want to happen is we trade that protected pick. Who knows if Rockets don’t get Howard they could try to tank the season doesn’t that end up making that pick that more valuable.

atlhawks4lyfe

July 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Boy, I hope D. Williams stays w/ the Nets so this will go through. Something tells me that if they get rid of Joe they will be able to keep Smith!!! I think Smoove’s talents are harder to replace than JJ’s are. I’m loving Danny Ferry right now.

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Wtf no Green or Brooks? I wanted to get rid of that contract too but Stevenson is pure doo doo. I at least wanted Green. Im glad we got rid of that terrible contract but come on man.

tjhook

July 2nd, 2012
5:49 pm

. . . and we need a scorer. Believe it or not, I want Vlad Rad back. He can put the ball in the basket. McGrady will probrably follow Joe Johnson to New Jersey. And if Deron Williams signs there, look for a Nets’ resurgence.

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

So when does Northcyde come in and blame us bloggers for the armagedon that is yet to come?

Sorry, Northcyde, couldn’t resist.

In the meantime….

I’ll take the suckiness of not having former (and I do mean FORMER) all-star talent in place of the ball-stopping-what-the-F-are we doing limbo we had gotten into.

Time to admit the several year long mistake and get moving. Assuming Deron says it’s ok, of course.

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

Josh sticks around (maybe) because now Hawks can realistically offer Josh more money than anyone else, and the Hawks will hit FA hard next summer. If the Hawks get a star or even just a couple of very good role players next summer, Josh will have to think twice about leaving.

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

We are finally getting rid Joe Johnson’s contract Hawks fans should be partying we are clearing cap space also short term we wont be as good but long tern it will give us flexibility .

Atlhawksfan

July 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

Hawks need to go out and get Chris kamam. Go big with Teague, Morrow, Smith, Horford, Kaman

Nas

July 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

DANNY FERRY IS THE MAN, GM OF THE YEAR!

tjhook

July 2nd, 2012
5:51 pm

Radmonovic can get his shot off against a smaller opponent- and he can put the ball on the floor. He can at least be the replacement for Marvin Williams off the bench.

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
5:51 pm

I hate to see JJ go.. but we can’t afford that contract anymore– and it wasn’t his fault that they gave it to him. They needed more players to go with him. But we won’t be better without him this year… unless we’re going to pick up some real scorers..

Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde

July 2nd, 2012
5:51 pm

It will be interesting to see who steps up with Joe gone.

As for Joe he didn’t want to be here anyway. They threw a bunch of money at him and he took it. Wish him all the luck in the world.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:51 pm

“I wanted to get rid of that contract too but Stevenson is pure doo doo. I at least wanted Green. Im glad we got rid of that terrible contract but come on man.”

This trade isn’t about the players the Hawks received in return. Stevenson won’t be a Hawk a year from now, and neither will any of those other players. This is about the pick and cap space.

Tumbledown

July 2nd, 2012
5:51 pm

Ferry is giving the Hawks a chance to win an NBA championship at some point in the not so distant future. It may not ever happen, but at least there is a chance. Please remember that with Joe Johnson and his contract, there was ZERO chance for the Hawks to win a championship in the next four years. Plus, the Hawks would have been just mediocre enough with no flexibility to have little chance of improving for years and years. Now, we have flexibility. If we become really bad, we have a chance to draft a truly impact player. If we stay average, we at least have flexibility to make moves. This is a time to rejoice, but we will probably slide down next year. That is ok as the future is so much brighter.

Big Crimson 75

July 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

This is an excellent move.
I wouldn’t throw in the towel for next season just yet.
Joe sucks. His 18/4/4 can be replaced.
Horford is the corner-stone of this Franchise.
Bye Joe — go dribble dribble dribble out the shot-clock in Brooklyn.

hawksfancents95

July 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

hahaha the Atlanta Hawks fans Finally get a win! i liked Joe and didnt want to see him go unless the proper deal came up and mostly so it did, however we need marshon brooks to fill that SG spot and Brooklyn wouldnt need Marshon now that Joe is there.
Danny Ferry you are a stud! no one on this blog thought Joe was tradeable including me but wow you did it. i cant wait to see this trade finalized and i hope the finalized copy has Marshon Brooks in that deal.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

One thing I will say — when the Nets come here in December (they usually play a game in ATL early in the season) I hope Joe gets the standing O he deserves. It wasn’t his fault the DASG gave him a cap-crippling contract, and it’s not because of his performance that trading him became necessary. He did everything this franchise could reasonably ask him to do. Hopefully the fans won’t hold it against him for not being the player his contract dictated he should be.

Baloo

July 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

Hawks would never win a championship with Joe leading the way. Wasted several years trying to figure that out but at least saved some years and now we can try something new. Might actually start watching the Hawks now.

CHRIS

July 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

Great job Mr. Ferry! Now get rid of Josh Smith and let’s go to work on building a winner!!!!

Blodus

July 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

It’s a great day for Hawks!!!! You rock Ferry.. Goodbye stinkin Johnson, you let the money get to ya…Josh Smith outplayed you the whole season and he didn’t even make All-Star. Great job by the new GM… You’re awesome.

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm

If the Nets-Hawks deal falls through, remember that the Hawks have been in talks with multiple teams regarding a Joe Johnson trade. I think Joe is gone within the next 48 hours no matter what.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm

Hawks made it to easy for Nets Trading Joe for nothing, JUST DAM

Should have atleast got Green and Brooks.

Bad move for the Hawks could have done better in this trade.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm

Houston pick is lottery protected through 2016, if not paid by then, it turns in to a 2017 2nd rd pick.

crackbaby

July 2nd, 2012
5:55 pm

This deal is far from over if Hawks are depending Deron Williams to stay put.

However, John Kincaid is a total loser (for many reasons but the latest one) for refusing to entertain talk show discussions about trading Joe. Trading Joe is the ONLY way the Hawks position themselves to win a championship.

This would be a great deal for the Hawks. Allows them to get a world class PG and Dwight Howard when the Magic are ready to deal him.

Horford, J-Smoove, DHoward + a PG and 2 guard.

Samuel

July 2nd, 2012
5:55 pm

Not so fast, this is based on the Nets retaining D. Williams however I hope the trade goes through. Joe Johnson is s real good player, But unfortunately he’s a pure jump shooter and not a good rebounder or a post- up guy. We all know when he plays against tough competition his game usually goes down hill from there. Plain and simply put he wasn’t worth that big contract. So big ups to Danny Ferry if he can pull that off…….

Vettledi

July 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

The Spurs machine strikes again! After Sam Presti just impressing everybody with OKC now Ferry strikes within a few weeks, unbelievable. Next task will be to absolutely convince Josh to stay here, which is not such a big deal with all the rumors spreading.
I do know Josh wants to retire as a Hawk, he’s so important to the community and he loves playing for his home team, I just think it was a real good punch to the table to see whether or not this organisation was willing to play for something big.
I don’t know if we’ll do anything special until training camp, but I DO know that we’ll not be a 8th seed, and for one and only reason : Iso-Joe has stopped, this will be an inside-oriented team with Josh and Al who were picking up garbages for the past few years. And a duo of All Stars inside doesn’t mean lottery folks…

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:57 pm

“Guess we will be a lottery team this season.”

I am extremely confident that Teague-Josh-Al with a few good role players around them can do exactly what the Hawks did this year. Northcyde will disagree but I don’t think this is a lottery team without Joe.

However, I don’t think it’s good for this team in the long term to stop here with the revamping of this team. Being a middle-seeded playoff team with no shot at a title with Teague-Josh-Al is no better than being a middle-seeded playoff team with no shot at a title with Teague-Joe-Josh-Al. They need to make a strong move for Dwight or put themselves in position to acquire another player of that caliber, either via trade or by blowing up the roster and tanking for a lottery pick.

kbb

July 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

Thank you Jesus!

Heisenberg

July 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

Not done yet. This makes the trade rumor of Josh to Houston for Kevin Martin make sense as Martin will easily replace Joe’s numbers at the 2.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

Fans keep talking about building a winner i hope everybody no how hard for team to rebuild.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!

at BIG DOG

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

Yeah we need to trade that Houston pick with Marvin to try and get a decent piece. I already know Ferry will be on that.

Disgusted

July 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

I guess we got rid of the guy who does not care if the fans show up.

I don’t care, I never liked Joe Johnson and its good RIDDANCE a thousand times.

I sort of relate to him as a symbol of why my favorite hockey team is no longer in town.

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
5:59 pm

DO WORK D. FERR!

Disgusted

July 2nd, 2012
5:59 pm

Good start Danny, now can you rid us of Josh and Marvin too?

ATL is a decent basketball town, that is evidenced by the TV ratings but Atlantans did not like this team.

CrαZy

July 2nd, 2012
6:00 pm

Houston will be a lottery team for the next few years we should trade the pick to get something.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
6:00 pm

Now i here Marvin for Devin Harris.

And next has to be LD.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
6:01 pm

We ain’t trading Josh for no damn Kmart, Ferry is already trying to get him to an extension.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:01 pm

“this is based on the Nets retaining D. Williams”

Not according to @WojYahooNBA it’s not.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
6:01 pm

As a Hawks fan, we better hope Houston sucks next year, because their draft pick is lotterty protected for the next 4 years.

2013 free agents? CP3, Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Andrew Bynum, James Harden (restricted).

Disgusted

July 2nd, 2012
6:01 pm

Morrow is not a bad player. Maybe we can package some of the players we got from the Nets for another first round pick.

The only guys I want from this bunch to build around are Teague and Horford.

Houston Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
6:02 pm

I think it would be nice to amnesty Marvin next summer and then go after Dwight Howard and Chris Paul in free agency. Then get some defensive stoppers/shooters on the wings. The new Big Three.

Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde

July 2nd, 2012
6:03 pm

18 million a year
18.8 during the regular season
17.2 during the playoffs on a team where you are the star player

Bye Bye Joe

IMakeSense

July 2nd, 2012
6:03 pm

I don’t understand why people keep saying the Hawks should have got more. Don’t you realize the Hawks would have about 10 million dollars to sign SIX players before going in the luxary cap.

The Hawks essentially traded 1 player for an entire bench. NOW the Hawks can try to get Ivan Johnson resigned and have ultimate leverage on what to do with Josh Smith.

BoricuaHawk

July 2nd, 2012
6:03 pm

Where do I get my Danny Ferry jersey???

J.J.M.

July 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm

smh if this was any other player in the NBA espn would be talking about them for hours

GoodBye Joe

July 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm

I am officially going to climb to the top of Stone Mountain with a Megaphone and Scream THANK YOU to the basketball Gods.Maybe now we can have a contender in a year or two.

Loserville USA

July 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm

It’s time.

Finally, the core is getting blown up.

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm

If Houston doesn’t make playoffs this season, might as well trade the pick. Tag it along with Duck or Zaza and see what comes of it.

Sund was an idiot. All he needed to do was probe around like Ferry did.

Jeff

July 2nd, 2012
6:05 pm

Some of you people are idiots.

Jim at 5:32 p.m. said:

“so lets see….

teague,jenkins,marvin,josh, and al
farmar,morrow,stevenson,zaza, and petro
williams off the bench..

sounds like miami is quaken in their shoes.”

Yeah, and the lineup this year that had Marvin, Joe, Josh, Zaza, Collins, Teague, Green, Stackhouse and T-mac REALLY had teams shuddering out of fear of facing the Hawks. COME ON MAN! This team was going NOWHERE with Joe hogging all the time, money, and shots from the rest of the team. The Hawks were doomed to perennially be a 40-45 win team, get a top-4 seed in the Eastern Conference, maybe tough out a Round 1 win, and then get hammered in Round 2 by either Miami or Chicago or Boston. This team was NOT progressing, not improving, and the team had zero flexibility with its salary cap. The roster you saw in 2010, 2011, 2012 was the SAME roster you were getting in 2013, 2014, 2015. So how are we that much worse off without Johnson? Seems to me without the albatross of that awful contract hanging on the team’s neck, perhaps Ferry and his staff can move some other pieces around, sign a few key players that really fit their roles (think San Antonio Spurs) and have some flexibility to make some moves. As long as Joe was on the team, the only pieces moving around were chaning out the 11th, 12th, and 13th men on the bench — your top 8 or 10 guys were locked in.

Let’s see where this takes us. I have a feeling the Hawks will be better off in 3 to 5 years with this move than if we’d kept Joe and maintained the same, stale, inflexible roster, where Joe got paid like a king and had to have his required 15-18 shots to get his 20 points a game. Great move, Hawks… now let’s continue to build and look to bigger and better things.

Eric

July 2nd, 2012
6:05 pm

I can’t wait for the new season and the guy yelling “let’s go hawks” with no one accompanying much less overtaking him. I’d rather attend a wake then go to a Hawks game. Actually, the atmosphere is similar.

Columbus

July 2nd, 2012
6:06 pm

I LOVE Danny Ferry!

Who cares who replaces Joe’s points! Jenkins can replace them! Jamal Crawford can replace them! We can BUY those points VERY soon! Not to mention a CENTER!

Who let the Dogs out? Who? Who? Danny Ferry did!!!

Thank you Hawks owners for making your BEST move EVER!!! We ALSO GET a 1st round pick instead of GIVING picks up?! Nice change there!

This is too good to be TRUE! Please tell me im not dreaming! Pinch me! Everybody said NOBODY would take on Joes contract and Ferry has made the impossible happen in ONE WEEK!

Reality Check

July 2nd, 2012
6:06 pm

Now trade Josh and Marvin to Houston for Lowry, Martin, and Patrick Patterson.

Vettledi

July 2nd, 2012
6:06 pm

And let me teel you this right now folks : Anthony Morrow, with the systems LD is putting, his homecoming after Georgia Tech, MAN he’s about to put some numbers from downtown. Let me get that jersey

atlhawks4lyfe

July 2nd, 2012
6:07 pm

Why do people think we should get high caliber players for JJ? He’s good, but he’s also locked into a horrendous contract for what he will bring to the table.

jlewis

July 2nd, 2012
6:08 pm

The Nets have just taken the hawks playoff spot, lol. I am no longer a hawks fan, D-Will will resign, Jason Kidd will be the backup in Brooklyn, Lopez stays, they still have Brooks and Green. Thats not the best part, Dwight Howard is unrestricted next year, he’s not coming to ATL, i’m estactic, the billionaire will resign him in Brooklyn.
Now you miss JJ, who will draw the double team to help AL and Josh work, JJ just needed a good point guard, and a center, love it.
They had cap space when they signed Joe, no one came. I know people dont remember, but Danny Ferry gave Larry Hughes $70 million in Cleveland, he’s no genius, lol.

J.J.M.

July 2nd, 2012
6:08 pm

damn we didnt get brooks or green though

Columbus

July 2nd, 2012
6:08 pm

Nothing against Joe. Its not HIS fault the last GM and the owners overpaid him and it handcuffed the teams ability to make moves and therefore the future. Best of luck Joe. Except against Danny Ferry’s Atlanta Hawks! Ferry will be the GM of the year in 2013 or maybe 2012!

Jaded Hawks Fan

July 2nd, 2012
6:08 pm

Broussard on Sportscenter just said he thinks Atlanta is an attractive place for free agents. I agree, especially now that we have an executive who seems to have a real plan.

Next summer could be very exciting. We haven’t said that very often around here.

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
6:08 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

“One thing I will say — when the Nets come here in December (they usually play a game in ATL early in the season) I hope Joe gets the standing O he deserves. ”

This.

dap01

July 2nd, 2012
6:09 pm

Great job Ferry!

Heisenberg

July 2nd, 2012
6:09 pm

Josh & Al play same position. Ferry seems to be building more around Al (maybe because he has a long term contract and has not asked to be traded). Ferry could be negotiating with Josh to give him a chance to stay and be a part of it. But I cannot see a way Hawks start training camp without Josh either signed or traded. Not a Josh hater, I like his passion & talent. But the business part makes me lean towards he will be traded before camp starts.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:11 pm

“I don’t understand why people keep saying the Hawks should have got more. Don’t you realize the Hawks would have about 10 million dollars to sign SIX players before going in the luxary cap.”

It is a testament to how atrocious Joe’s contract was that this was the extent of his trade value. If he was properly paid the Hawks could have gotten a lot more for him. But if he was properly paid, the Hawks wouldn’t have been boxed into having this team with no hope to improve and consequently wouldn’t have had to trade him in the first place.

icoachkids

July 2nd, 2012
6:11 pm

Great move! Now move Marvin and Heinrich and we may have something going here.

NUNNA!!

July 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm

Whoahhhhhhhhhhh Nelly..
No brooks or green to ATL??
Ok..now i see that he is doing what i told yall he would do..
Without making an annoncement,the hawks are rebuilding..
Ferry has a year contract folks and its to come in and have up to 3 years to put a legit playoff contender on the floor..And by the end of year 4,have a legit 2nd round to Round contender with cap room to bring in a super star free agent..

tjhook

July 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm

Are we going to be any kind of defensive team. Also, LD’s system relied on players being able to draw double-teams. Joe could do that when he played team ball. Who can do that now. Teague and who else? Smith will need someone to take the offensive pressure off of him who can dribble.

welikebaseball2

July 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm

I got greedy & was hoping we could get Brooks or Green, which would make us a little more competitive next season. Well, I’ll tough it out & look forward to seeing what we do with the loads of cap space next summer & 1st round picks to build for the ‘14 season. This is, hands down, the best move for the future (& not-so-distant future) of the franchise. Now, excuse me while I celebrate the shedding of the worse contract in NBA history!

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm

tjhook, are you Rad’s agent. Dude was horrible except for 3 or 4 games. A big man that wants to play around the 3 point line.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm

“I am no longer a hawks fan, D-Will will resign, Jason Kidd will be the backup in Brooklyn, Lopez stays, they still have Brooks and Green. Thats not the best part, Dwight Howard is unrestricted next year, he’s not coming to ATL, i’m estactic, the billionaire will resign him in Brooklyn.”

Brooklyn won’t have cap space to sign Dwight as an unrestricted free agent after they complete the Joe and D-Will deals.

“Now you miss JJ, who will draw the double team to help AL and Josh work, JJ just needed a good point guard, and a center, love it.”

Josh was the guy drawing double teams all season, not Joe.

Ken Strickland

July 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm

It’s being reported on ESPN that the Nets intend to go through with the trade regardless of DWill’s decision. Maybe it was because DHoward reportedly told Magic ownership that he wanted to be traded to no other team but the Nets. He indicated that if they didn’t, he play next season with the Magic and leave. There may also be some kind of lawsuit in the mix, which the players association has already approved.

With JJ gone, it looks like all of you MWilliams haters will have to continue suffering. We’ll definitely need his scoring ability to replace some of JJs, along with whoever replaces JJ at SG. If we don’t trade Josh before the season, I see a starting lineup of SF-MWilliams, OC-AHorford, PF-JSmith, PG-JTeague, and SG-?

I see Joe’s departure benefitting Teague and Marvin more than anyone else, and Horford should also benefit. We’ll certainly be able to play more uptempo ball, and the OFF should flow more consistently and effectively. However, we’ll miss his clutch shooting, ballhandling and assists.

icoachkids

July 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm

WE CANNOT TRADE JOSH!!!!

He is the real all star on this team.

Michael

July 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm

Have not commented on a Hawks blog since Joe received his absurd contract two years ago. This move brought me back. Anyone complaining about this deal needs to get real. This team was doomed to win 40-45 games for the next 4 seasons with no hope of having any cap room. This had to be done in order to move forward.

Free

July 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm

About time!!! Bye Joe!!! All that money they were paying him was a waste, free up those millions to get some players who wants this city to get a NBA ring!!!

NUNNA!!

July 2nd, 2012
6:14 pm

Correction:
Whoahhhhhhhhhhh Nelly..
No brooks or green to ATL??
Ok..now i see that he is doing what i told yall he would do..
Without making an annoncement,the hawks are rebuilding..
Ferry has a “6 year” contract folks and its to come in,work his so called magic and in 3 years put a legit playoff contender on the floor..

And by the end of year 4,have a legit 2nd round to Round contender with cap room to bring in a top tier free agent or 2 to put us into the finals….

We’ll see

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:14 pm

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
The Atlanta Hawks will have a lot of money to spend next summer. This deal allows them to pursue Dwight Howard and Chris Paul.
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This.

t_height

July 2nd, 2012
6:14 pm

Marvin isn’t going anywhere yet until the team can find a shooting guard. Marvin is a better SG than he is SF. He is not bad coming off the bench so I say keep him.

Ra'mon

July 2nd, 2012
6:14 pm

Truthfully the trade is a bittersweet trade. The last time a player as talented as Joe was traded, it was Dominique. And for old time sake, the back court of Deron Williams and Joe Johnson should’ve happened here in Atlanta, lol.

J.J.M.

July 2nd, 2012
6:15 pm

lmao if deron williams dont sign with the nets though

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
6:15 pm

“So who replaces the 18/4/4 a game that Joe gave?”

Teague, Josh, Al and Marvin’s averages all go up without Ball-Stopper Joe!

welikebaseball2

July 2nd, 2012
6:15 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot to add to the list of things I’m looking forward to about summer of ‘13 is the possibility of NOT extending Drew’s contract into the ‘14 season? Now, I’m all about winning sooner than later but, while the ‘13 season may not look promising, ‘14 can’t come soon enough!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:15 pm

“With JJ gone, it looks like all of you MWilliams haters will have to continue suffering. ”

On the contrary, trading Joe means Marvin is the obvious candidate to be amnestied. Unless, of course, Ferry can find some sucker to take his contract too.

Priest Lauderdale

July 2nd, 2012
6:16 pm

I would have traded Joe for a bag of balls. Change is good

HowlingOwlSports.com (KSU)

July 2nd, 2012
6:18 pm

I think this move had to be made but I will miss Joe. Great job in not taking any bad contracts back.

jlewis

July 2nd, 2012
6:18 pm

Josh drew double teams when JJ got hurt. Teams play Josh straight up, and give him two arms length because they want him to shoot the jumper. If he was double teamed JJ would have had open shots. Also, you guys seem to forget we were two plays away from beating the Celtics, this is outright dumb. There are no Lebron’s coming down the pike that the Hawks will get. I love it, you’ll get what you deserve.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
6:18 pm

So JJ the ballhawk is moving on. Where does LD go for points now? None of the guys that the Hawks get back in this trade will put up JJ’s numbers, and the ones that I’ve seen, do not play defense as good as JJ.

True, he was way overpaid, but you still have to hvae players to win, and if this deal goes through, the Hawks will not have the players to win.

The Nets and the Hawks will switch places in the standings with this trade. But the Nets will be excited, because they’ve stuck it up for the pst few years, and this will put them in the playoffs.

Who and from where are the Hawks going to get players to make this year’s team competitive?

They’ll need a much better coach than LD to get this group of mismatched players to compete.

Roy Kittles

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

Kent avoids Caldwell pope welcome to the hawks.

Vettledi

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

If Ferry is able to find someone ABLE to make a trade with Marvin I take the first flight from Paris to Atlanta and give him a BJ

OneManBandStand

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

New Jersey? LOL

Is Astro Joe going with him?

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

To be more specific, if the Hawks amnesty Marvin, they will have only $15 million of committed salaries one year from now. In other words, easily enough money to sign CP3, Josh, AND Dwight.

Kind of like how the Heat cleared their entire cap and were the only team that had enough money to sign LeBron, Wade, AND Bosh.

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

“Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
The Atlanta Hawks will have a lot of money to spend next summer. This deal allows them to pursue Dwight Howard and Chris Paul.”

TUESDAY, APRIL 24, 2012

“This would put the team in position to emulate the Miami Heat by bringing in a third star such as Chris Paul.”

http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2012/04/hawks-could-be-back-in-hunt-for-dwight.html

Yawn....

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

This will mean NOTHING unless we have a big league coach….Larry Drew has to go!!!

J.J.M.

July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

now that howard cant go to the nets I see the hawks resigning josh and signing howard next season while marvin might get the amnesty…so the future lineup could be C howard PF horford SF josh? SG I have no idea PG teague

nobody

July 2nd, 2012
6:20 pm

Just think if we don’t have a season and Houston doesn’t either we could pair the keepers on our roster with 2 Lottery Picks next year and an upper tier free agent. Breathe Hawks fans. 2013 will be a good year for us.

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
6:20 pm

Marvin to Utah for Devin Harris rumors are everywhere. MC, does this have legs?

Tremaine

July 2nd, 2012
6:20 pm

YES! YES! YES! THANK YOU BROOKLYN! DANNY FERRY IS MY HERO!

nobody

July 2nd, 2012
6:20 pm

a good season*

NUNNA!!

July 2nd, 2012
6:20 pm

Mr.Strickland,
I agree 1000 percent on your comment,but, this will benefit Marvin the most out of everyone..
In Marvin you have a guy who can(when called upon to do so)score..
Inside..Outside..Decent free throw shooter..Good wing defender..
Strong to da hoop but just needs to finish..
And with a GM that is not afraid to ship yo behind off somewhere,Mr.Williams now has the opp to be the scorer and player he should have been..

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm

Great move. I’ve said many times in the past that JJ would make some team a great 2nd or 3rd option. He’s just not a #1. Its a win/win deal. The Nets pick up a good piece and the Hawks had to blow this team up. Bad karma. Next step: move Smooove.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm

SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!

Thanks for the memories Joe, you just couldn’t get er’ done here.

Good thing, I was going to call you Hoe Johnson all for the next 4 seasons after that crap vs the celts this yr.

Laughing out Loud

July 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm

I’m really laughing hard right now at all of you who stated the Hawks cannot afford to trade Joe Johnson! Listen people, if management wants to do some thing, they can usually find a way! All it takes is guts and dollars! Never say it cannot be down!

HowlingOwlSports.com (KSU)

July 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm

Danny Ferry did well so far…now he has to put the space to good use.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm

Honestly if they could convince Orlando to trade Dwight here for Al + picks and amnesty Marvin, they would have Bird rights on Dwight, they would have only $3 million in committed salaries (Teague), and they would be able to not only team up CP3/Josh/Dwight but also have enough left over to go after another pretty good free agent.

joel holtzman

July 2nd, 2012
6:22 pm

Resigning JJ to that hugh contract for a contribution player was stupid. It might have been smart considering the trade value provided. It takes time to build a winner. Ok we may have an off year or two. I hope the Hawks use it wisely.

HoosierHawk

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

Could we go after Nash or Ray Allen with MLE? A backcourt of Farmar, Teague, Stevenson, Jenkins would be the worst in the league.

HowlingOwlSports.com (KSU)

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

I agree Najeh…have to amnesty Marvin if Ferry can get the owners to sign off on it.

ant banks

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

we gotta have some of the DUMBEST bloggers in the nation…D12 has emphatically stated that the nets is where he wants to be and he will not resign with any organization, but the nets…

WHY ARE Y’ALL STILL TALKIN’ ABOUT PACKING A DEAL TO GET D12 IN ATLANTA? smf

Triple Lindy

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

NICE. Hopefully Rockets have a bust of a season and give us a good pick. Time to sign a big man and let Al do his thing as a power forward.

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

Cap space baby YES, YES , YES , YES , YES !

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

Devin Harris for Marvin, huh? Another expiring contract, and if Harris can regain his form from a couple of years ago he may actually be good enough to move at the deadline for another first-rounder. Make it happen.

HowlingOwlSports.com (Kennesaw State Blog)

July 2nd, 2012
6:24 pm

Agreed Lindy. Need to grab a big, some way some how and get Al back to his natural position.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

“we gotta have some of the DUMBEST bloggers in the nation…D12 has emphatically stated that the nets is where he wants to be and he will not resign with any organization, but the nets…

WHY ARE Y’ALL STILL TALKIN’ ABOUT PACKING A DEAL TO GET D12 IN ATLANTA? smf”

D12 can say whatever he wants, but the Nets just assured themselves of not having enough cap space for him. They can’t afford him while they have Deron, Joe, and Wallace on the roster.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Sometimes folks ya gotta take a step back to move forward, this gives us hope of a brighter future and hopefully it will include a much better coach.

Justin

July 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Well it doesn’t really matter if Joe’s traded now or not. Atlanta will never be a contender and most of you will still find something to complain about after the deal is done. Whatever!

Matt

July 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Rumor Marvin Williams to the Utah Jazz for Devin Harris

gtjason41

July 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

Why is everyone saying we will be a lottery team now??? We still have 2 top 20 players (Al and Josh), Teague is an above average point guard, and we have some top notch outside shooters (Jenkins, Morrow, and Marvin). Plus Stevenson is a terrific perimeter defender! We will make the playoffs no doubt!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

Also, D12 doesn’t say anything “emphatically”.

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

Harris has an expiring contract also. Danny Ferry means business about the summer of 2013.

MattP

July 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

I wonder if Josh will change his mind after this, because now he will be the star of this team. This team will be alot more interesting to watch without ISO Joe.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

So what happend the last time Hawks had ALOT of cap space???? Don’t remember any big names lining up to play for us??

Ken Strickland

July 2nd, 2012
6:27 pm

This trade frees cap space to sign FAs this yr, and additional cap space next yr to do the same. We aren’t going to fall apart and tank this season to get into the lottery. That can only happen if we decide to trade Josh for draft picks before the season.

This team won’t fall apart without JJ just like if didn’t fall apart with the sudden and unexpected loss of Horford last yr. Don’t forget, there were many doubters and negative minded fans who predicted the team would collapse after Horford’s injury, and look at how that turned out.

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
6:27 pm

riple Lindy

July 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

NICE. Hopefully Rockets have a bust of a season and give us a good pick. Time to sign a big man and let Al do his thing as a power forward.

+++++++++++

The Rockets pick is top-14 protected, so if you want the Hawks to actually be able to use the pick, you better hope the Rockets make it to the playoffs (preferably as the 8th seed).

Old School

July 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm

Now it’s time to get rid of Josh Smith. Everyone in Atlanta has had enough of his terrible attitude, lack of effort and horrible shot selection..

NUNNA!!

July 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm

Will it take the Utah Jazz to show atlanta and its past and present HC and staff just what a talent we had (if properly used) in Marvin Williams?
Curry tagging along with Marvin spotting up on the break,whew!!
Nasty!!

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

Won’t be a lottery team but won’t be much better than we are now, like I said with a real GM we actually have a future now, nets players will be mostly our new bench players with Ivan & Zsa Zsa.

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

Ship has sailed we are not getting D12 but does not mean that the Hawks can’t get anybody now that we have money to spend we can get much better players .

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

“So what happend the last time Hawks had ALOT of cap space???? Don’t remember any big names lining up to play for us??”

This is a different NBA than the one in 2005, thanks to LeBron setting the blueprint to team up with other superstars. CP3 and Dwight are free agents in the summer of 2013. Getting players like that to team up with a third upper echelon player (Josh? Al?) is a lot more realistic now than it was in 2005.

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
6:30 pm

Danny is the man. Where is this rumor about Marvin for Dev Harris? That is another sweet expiring contact deal. Amazing. I want to be a fly in the wall when Danny Ferry is talkin about his vision of the team.

trade Joe?

July 2nd, 2012
6:30 pm

My gooddawdamighty, give Ferry a ten year extension, QUICK!
Joe is not a bad guy, not a bad player and in fact he was at the worst, the second best player on the team. BUT, he was paid like the best player in the NBA. For that kind of money, you can replace
18/4/4 and have boatloads of cash left over for other spots.
As M Bradley might write: don’t look now, but the Hawks might have just turned the corner.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:30 pm

Thought “protected pick” meant a top 3 pick??

soullrenaissance

July 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

The Average Joe Johnson Era is over!!!! Idk is we should build a D. Ferry monument yet – there is plenty to be done to right this ship. However, this is a heckuva start!

Tank

July 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

I think Dwight fits better with Al because Al’s range is better than Josh’s, and they can space it out. Just my opinion, though.

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

I repost my question about Marvin….can he be bought out for one year at 7.5M because next year is a PO? If that is the case, amnesty this guy. It won’t bite the salary cap much, and if he gets picked up, deduct that amount. And I don’t care if he starts for Miami. I have seen all I want to see from Marvin. I’m not a Devin Harris fan at all.
I would rather have the free cap space.

real cp, we see things alike at times, and I wanted to post this for your behalf:

On the championship run for the Mavericks:
“The Mavs’ veteran leadership trio of Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd and Jason Terry twice lobbied Carlisle to insert Stevenson into the starting lineup. Carlisle listened on both occasions, once near the beginning of the season and the second time just before the playoffs began.
The Dallas vets embraced the nasty tone that Stevenson, who usually got the most difficult defensive assignment among the opposing guards and small forwards, set along with big man Tyson Chandler.

“Just a tough, tough guy that we miss,” Nowitzki said. “I’m happy for him that he gets his ring and he’s going to get a standing ovation. He brought a toughness and grittiness to our club last year that we needed.”

They used Stevenson on LeBron along with Marion, and IMO, Dallas lost a lot of its defensive presence this past year. You have to give Stevenson a chance. He has an opportunity to try and prove he’s worth that 3 year deal. I like this piece of the deal and now we follow it up with a shooter to get us buckets.
Someone has to defend Wade and LeBron; Stevenson will help us in that area more than Brooks or Green.

And what’s wrong with a future #1 pick of Houston’s? What superstar is going to sign with them? They are in IMO worse shape than us. There’s nothing wrong with an extra pick for the future.

So for now, we have a roster of 13. We have Josh and Marvin rumors going on. I say Josh needs to go for what you can get for him. I don’t expect much from moving Josh even though he is very comparable to Joe in talent. You think Danny is looking for a short term return on moving Josh so he doesn’t end up with a long term mistake?

Congrats to Danny on a huge move for the future of this franchise.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm

I haven’t seen any confirmation of this Harris for Marvin rumor from any of the people on Twitter I trust (@WojYahooNBA, @KBergCBS, @AlexKennedyNBA, @SpearsNBAYahoo among others) but there are a ton of Twitter hits when you search for both of their names together.

Good Bye Joe

July 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm

The Deal is no longer contingent on D-will. Joe is 100% GONE!

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:33 pm

Unless Josh is resigned during this summer ya gotta trade him, I like him but rather get something for him instead of just letting dude walk for nothing.

Steamer Lane Bulldog

July 2nd, 2012
6:34 pm

Joe is a nice guy, but didn’t play up to the coin; he was getting.
When Marvin goes the Hawks will be able to get a couple, of great players, to go along with Josh, and Al!
Great job Mr. Ferry

hawksfancents95

July 2nd, 2012
6:34 pm

the eastern conference has always fluxuated greatly from year to year. i see us placing in the 4-8 range probobley the 6th spot. i see it this way,and still early on prediction.
1.mia
2.chi
3.nyk
4.ind
5.bos
6.atl
7.philly
8.wash
if they trade goes through our lineup(as of now)
PG-Teague SG-Stevenson SF-Williams PF-J.Smith C-Horford
that lineup does not excite me and the fact that Houstons 1st rd pick via Brooklyn is lottery protected so that is maybe a 14-22 pick for next year isnt too tantalizing.
This is the second great day this off-season so far and that is much improved from last years great day count at uhh 0.(same owners,same GM,same coach,only additions were veterans,TMAC signing counts as a 1/2 great day)

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:35 pm

@hoopinion’s Twitter feed is hating on Joe hard right now, harder than nearly anyone who posts here.

tony

July 2nd, 2012
6:35 pm

Ferry is the MAN!

Auburn Fan

July 2nd, 2012
6:35 pm

Finally. I don’t know anyone that ever felt like Joe Johnson was worth those big numbers.

pj

July 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

We got 22 million off the books for each of the next 4 years, and when we lose the 3 “one and dones” it’ll be 32. Think we could build around a Teague and J Jenkins backcourt with big AL at PF with 30+ million in 2013-14 for a couple of stars at Center and SF plus an additional 1st rounder to leverage? Business wise – this was an A+ move. 12-13 season wise – we have conceded. But if we tank and go lottery pick + another 1st rounder next year – all the pieces are in place! J smoove can fetch us 2 great bench players and a draft pick for ‘14 – and in 3 years – Hawks can be back in the top 3 of the East

Manny

July 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

Danny Ferry is my new best friend! Wow! If anyone sees him, just give him that slow, dramatic hand clap that builds into thunderous applause for me!

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
6:39 pm

Dwight Howard is not coming to the Hawks, this year or next. He wants out of Orlando because of the supporting cast.

shake&break

July 2nd, 2012
6:39 pm

The problem with Atlanta Hawks fans is three fold.

First, go find two good players who want to come to Atlanta that will replace Joe Johnson. You will still have to pay the same amount for them and you may find a average center (Asik) and a average guard (Mayo or Crawford). They will cost you the same combined salary as Joe and put you no closer to a championship. Good luck finding those players.

Second, just because someone is the highest paid player makes them no leader (vocal or otherwise). If leadership is the problem, I guess now the Hawks will look to find their leader in one of the free agents they can find to replace Joe. Good luck with that.

Third, good luck on rebuilding through the draft. That takes more than one or two years. Plus, the Hawks have had so much luck with the draft in recent years. Oh, now you have Danny Ferry who did a great job putting so much talent around LeBron that LBJ left. I hate to say this, but I think Hawks fans will be remembering the phrase “you never miss a good thing until it is gone”. JJ was not a vocal all-star or leader, but he was a very good all-star caliber player. For some reason, you Hawks fan could never get over that contract. Good Luck Hawks!!

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
6:39 pm

What is @hoopinon saying about Joe. I am getting tickets to the Nets/Hawks game just to clap when Joe is introduced.

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
6:40 pm

The doings of Rick Sund are underway!

Next up: Marvin

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:40 pm

@pj,

Not going to wish or watch my team tank intentionally.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:41 pm

Bret LaGree ‏@hoopinion
The younger, more efficient Teague and Marvin will handle whatever’s left over from Horford and Smith putting Joe Johnson in perspective.
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6m Bret LaGree ‏@hoopinion
The Hawks have not just gained future cap flexibility but kept the three best players from the Celtics series. This is still a playoff team.
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8m Bret LaGree ‏@hoopinion
Joe Johnson projects to be what, about 4 wins better than what the Nets got from their 2s last season?
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Michael Cunningham ‏@ajchawks
Not sure this would punt ‘12-13. Smith, Horford, Zaza, Teague, M. Williams, Morrow probably still East playoff team
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General consensus on Twitter seems to be that this is still a playoff team, albeit one closer to the 8 seed than to home court advantage.

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
6:41 pm

Kevin, Stevenson is trash. People keep holding on to what he did in the finals. Dude shot like 28% last year and his defense looked a lot different not having Tyson Chandler behind him protecting the rim. Im hoping the Hawks have another deal lined up where they get rid of him. I dont want to see this dude play 1 game for the Hawks.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:41 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Asked prominent GM: Who’d you rather have in deal for Dwight Howard – Bynum or Horford? A: “Horford, ’cause I know he’ll play every night.”
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HowlingOwlSports.com (Kennesaw State Blog)

July 2nd, 2012
6:42 pm

I just hope people appreciate what Joe did for this franchise.

Hot err

July 2nd, 2012
6:42 pm

Praise the lord!!!! Ferry working miracles!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:43 pm

I don’t agree with everything hoopinion is saying about Joe but I do think this team can make up for his loss more easily than, for example, they could make up for losing Josh.

AtlantaCham

July 2nd, 2012
6:43 pm

C – Zaza, Petro
PF – Horford, Williams, Johnson, Scott
SF – Smith, Williams
SG – Stevenson, Morrow, Jenkins
PG – Teague, Farmer

That is a playoff team even if Ferry doesn’t make another move. And we all know he did this just to do something else. We aren’t going to win the championship next year, but we are far from a lottery team. Let’s just hope is Houston is not a lottery team either.

soullrenaissance

July 2nd, 2012
6:43 pm

idk IF – my bad

pg

July 2nd, 2012
6:43 pm

JJ was much better then people here appreciate or give him credit for!!!! He also never was a problem or had the BIG HEAD. It is not his fault that the HAWKS inept management gave him a too big contract. Who wouldn’t have taken it. I thought getting rid of a few guys and adding a few guys and we could have climbed in the Playoffs. That won’t happen now1

Tommy

July 2nd, 2012
6:43 pm

I wish we could blocks some of these idiots that talk on here. Some of you guys need to study the buisness side of the NBA.

I actually think we will still be a playoff team next year. Assuming this Harris trade has legs and gets done:

PG: Teague/Pargo
SG: Harris/JF/JJ
SF: Morrow/Stevenson
PF: Smith/Johnson
C: Horford/ZaZa/Petro

Big Crimson 75

July 2nd, 2012
6:44 pm

I don’t see why Brooklyn made this Deal.
Joe is not gonna lead this Team to a Title.
D-Will, Joe, Lopez & Brooks……good, but nothing special — even in the East.
They just priced themselves out of getting Dwight.
This is an unbelievable deal for Atl — for so many reasons!!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:44 pm

So in other words, if Ferry does nothing else this summer other than amnesty Marvin or trade him for an expiring, the Hawks still have a pretty decent chance at a playoff spot and will have enough cap space a year from now to sign CP3, Josh, and Dwight at the same damn time.

Sounds good to me.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:44 pm

@shake&break

We grew tired of Hoe Johnson disappearing in the playoffs year after year, this team as constructed last season has maxed and peaked out, we are starving for a championship, tired of never making the ECF, yeah things didn’t work out for Ferry in clev, but I do recall they did make it to the finals.

Drizzy

July 2nd, 2012
6:44 pm

No mo Joe… haha Party at my house Hawks fans!

hawksfancents95

July 2nd, 2012
6:45 pm

@rob 6:39 post
hahah that is great.

does anyone know if the nets make a offer to Brook Lopez how much Brooks salary for 2012-2013 season will be? Gerald Wallace was just signed 4-40 mill and they could trade gerald and brook to ORL for dwight, maybe another guy to even the salaries out. could this trade happen or is it not close enough in salary, someone help.

SlickPimpinHD (follow me)

July 2nd, 2012
6:45 pm

@Josh Smith – dont worry about nothing cuz, the doe is already there for you, everybody else need to get their Check Up $$$ but with you, Teague, Halford & the other guys (not saying they garbage but average) the team will still compete with the youth on the floor and future picks coming. Good Job Danny Boy!!! Josh holla@me kinfolk & Keep Workin!!!! Home Grown & from da A always Represent #BelieveIt

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:45 pm

“I don’t see why Brooklyn made this Deal.
Joe is not gonna lead this Team to a Title.”

It’s because they are moving into a new arena and want to assure themselves of a playoff spot so that they can sell jerseys. They are thinking short term over long term; the Hawks are thinking long term over short term.

W. R. Terrell

July 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

This trade needs to go thru. We get a lil size coming off the bench, Morrow is not a bad player, Farmer is not going to hurt the team, Pargo may still be signed, I think IVAN is in the HOUSEEEEEEEEE. The draft choices may be better then any of us think, J Smoove or who ever he is may bring a quality player and draft pick and the hawks will have money to spend after this season. DANNY FERRY is the MAN!

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

Hawks should go after Dwight Howard now!!

northcyde

July 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

I’m just watching all of this from work. People are glad that the Hawks are about to be dismantled, like they’re watching the Berlin Wall fall down or something.

Props to JJ, for providing some of the best 5 years in ATL basketball history. Arguably the 2nd best 5 year stretch of the franchise.

If the Nets re-sign Deron, that team looks very good on paper, and instantly becomes a borderline playoff team.

The Hawks are a different story, unless both Josh and Al can play way above their heads and more efficiently ( especially in the case of Josh ).

Make no mistake people . . I am an ATLANTA HAWK fan first and foremost. I could care if we acquired Angel for JJ, and played her at the 2. I’m still rolling with this team regardless.

Remember that, if Ferry decides to trade off Josh Smith. Don’t go whining and crying and saying that you’ll never watch the Hawks again, if they trade Smith.

I’m here regardless of who is on the team.

Can’t the rest of you say the same?

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

shake&break

Doesn’t matter if we get better. I’m sick of looking at JJ, Smooove, and Marvin.

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

amnesty Marvin today Danny and you can clock-out for the day!!! ;-) i like Joe’s game but not his leadership. hopefully he’ll find the leader he ‘needs’ in Brooklyn…Deron!!!

JSS

July 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

Everybody can be happy now, well except for Jeff Schultz because he won’t have the Joe Johnson contract to kick around in his column anymore!!! No more drive-by Hawks blogs!!! And word to all you Falcons apologists, new sheriff in town! Go find you a couple of scorers oversized Smashing Pumpkins lead singer look-alike!!!

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

Hallelujah! Please let this trade happen.

100%African

July 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

The Hawks can win 5 games this year and ill still be happy!!!!!!!

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

I think they are still a playoff team too. It will be funny to see if commentators(i.e. Barkley) talk about us any during the season.

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

I haven’t read where anyone thought NJ was making a good deal. Seems like the majority of the nation understands exactly what Joe Johnson is….and why the ASG/Sund have just had their knowledge of basketball shoved down their piehole!

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah,hallelujah to the 10th power!!!!!!
Thank you Danny Ferry!!!!! The respect that your name brings to this Hawks organization is being witnessed by Hawks fans and let’s hope and pray that this deal goes through and not fall through. This is the best news I’ve heard in years. No more Iso-Joes. Next up? Get rid of the Hawks coach. Can you please do that? Buy him out-whatever it takes. Then trade Mr. Crybaby and then I think we got a chance to bring in younger players. Everyone now knows that the Hawks are the oldest team in the league. Had the Hawks won a championship-that moniker wouldn’t seem so negative, but because of the Hawks inept management and lack of basketball IQ, the fans (this blog included) and other AJC blogs-were being portrayed by the local sports media as the scapegoat for the Hawks not making it to the next level and every other malady they’ve had-since the infamous Joe Johnson reaquisition which cost the Hawks financial distress.

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
6:48 pm

I like Joe Johnson. He just costs too much money. Can’t build a team around that enormous contract.

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
6:48 pm

Hawks are going after Atlanta native Dwight Howard.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:48 pm

<<<<<<<<<<HAWKS FAN 4 LIFE!!!

Bittersweet

July 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

I just want to say

t_height

July 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

The good thing is Jordan Farmar has a player option so he may opt out of his contract saving another 4mill. JaVale McGee and Omer Asik are two possible centers to sign. signing both would be great if we can get Dwight here.

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

northcyde

I’m a fair weather fan. I will watch the Hawks if they are hustling, playing smart, and improving. No matter how good they are. I cannot watch another year of JJ, Smooove, and Marvin. 1 down and 2 to go.

UGA

July 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

So now Horford for Howard, guy from Yahoo mentioned it….

nique

July 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

Brilliant move, this team wasn’t going anywhere with Joe.

JSS

July 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

Northcyde, if Joe had Angel’s balls he’d be a bad man!

Joe

July 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

Danny, you are man!! Now lets run Marvin out of town and you may get the key to the city!

1baddsgb

July 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

I’m leaving with Joe bye bye dumb fans bye bye dumb ownership I’ve been a fan sense 93 and I’m tired of the nba’s worst fans and the worst ownership kick rocks

Phil F

July 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

So Joe takes his salary and amazing playoff disappearing act to Brooklyn. Good riddance!

wow...Brooklyn...what are ya doin?

July 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm

Good grief, the Nets are almost as stupid as our owners were (they seem to be wising up). Why they would want to take on this horrible contract is beyond me. Oh well, good for us. Now if we could just con someone else into taking Marvin and his bad contract. If not, at least there’s only 2 years left on it (unlike the 4 left on Joe’s deal).

doc

July 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm

well this is about as close to saying the summer of sameness is officially over. only needs the approval of d will with his signature and we are free of a future albatross because he wasnt in present form even at 17 mil. but 24 mil at the ripe age of 34 would have been tough to watch.

really?

the left hand didnt know what the right was doing. wasnt it only a few weeks ago that sund was saying that all the guys thought they could do it and everyone wanted to come back after the exit interviews. talk about a 180? only in the atl bros.

BehindEnemyLines

July 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm

If this holds up it might be the greatest first-act-as-GM move in the history of sports. Not in a million years did I believe anyone could have unloaded that contract, not even P.T. Barnum.

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm

Remember Pendergraft’s thought about trying to bring last year’s bench back?
You just saw the new bench being formulated + the return of one Ivan Johnson.

Teague/Stevenson/Josh/Al/Zaza – we still need improvements.

Ivan/Marvin/Morrow/Petro/JWilliams/Farmar/Jenkins/Scott

Big Crimson 75

July 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm

WHAT??!!??!
You bring in Joe to sell jersey’s!!!
What fan base is gonna be happy to land Joe Johnson?
Bed-Stuy will NOT be loaded with JJ Jersey’s.

Sky Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

Dynasty in the making

Seriously??????

July 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

Harry the Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

HowlingOwlSports.com (Kennesaw State Blog/Forums)

July 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm

I would go after Dwight…even though I’m not a fan of his antics. That would be a BAD frontcourt with Horford.

northcyde

July 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm

Last post for a while

Projected Eastern Conference playoff seedings

1) Miami
2) Chicago
3) New York
4) Boston

5) Indiana
6) Philly
7) New Jersey
8] Atlanta/Milwaukee

Jenkins has to be much better than advertised for this team to be a playoff level squad. Either that, or Teague has to become a top 10 PG and possibly a much higher scoring one.

We’ll see how the season plays out.

HAWKLESS

July 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm

Great trade. I wish JJ the best. The Hawks management should be blamed for this salary problem. I would have taken the money also.

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm

If the Hawks get Dwight-then Josh Smith will stay. We definitely need to have an experienced winning nba coach. Phil Jackson would be a great one! Phil’s comments about coaching the current Knicks were genuis. Phil looked at their roster and knew what they needed and did not need. Phil said Amarie doesn’t fit in with the Knicks roster.

Bittersweet

July 2nd, 2012
6:54 pm

I just want to say, we are basically in rebuilding mode for no reason. We are getting nothing back in return for Joe. Joe did not under-perform, he was just overpaid because Sund was an idiot to give all that money to Joe. Now we have to watch Deron and Joe in Brooklyn, which is what we should have seen years ago if Knight would have drafted Deron instead of Marvin.

A sad day, but we got rid of Joe’s contract, so hooray!

Peanut gallery

July 2nd, 2012
6:54 pm

The Nets even acknowledge getting JJ takes them out of the running for Howard.

Two birds with one stone.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
6:54 pm

Nets have said there not waiting on D 12, this has to be the craziest statement ever made towards D 12 who continue to say he is headed to Brooklyn.

D 12 COME ON HOME NEXT YEAR HOMEBOY HAWKS ARE HEADED IN NEW DIRECTION WE WILL WAIT ALL YEAR.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sports fan

July 2nd, 2012
6:55 pm

larry drew is a bigger problem. guy cant coach

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
6:56 pm

Nets! Thank you Danny Ferry! Thank you Nets! Thank you Danny Ferry! Thank you Nets! Thank you Danny Ferry! Thank you Nets! Thank you Danny Ferry! Thank you Nets! Thank you Danny Ferry! Thank you Nets! Thank you Danny Ferry! Thank you Nets!

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
6:57 pm

This move has Mr. Beyonce’ name all over it LMAO!!!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
6:57 pm

Hey North, we are supposedly trading Marvin for Harris… You know your second favorite player, hahahaha.

soullrenaissance

July 2nd, 2012
6:57 pm

This is Josh’s team now – watch him shine with the top dog status.

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

BehindEnemyLines

July 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm
If this holds up it might be the greatest first-act-as-GM move in the history of sports. Not in a million years did I believe anyone could have unloaded that contract, not even P.T. Barnum.
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Ha! Ha! Well said. LOL

C dog

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

No Marshon Brooks? Serious? You caved-in Ferry…you are weak

Big Crimson 75

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

East :
1. South Beach
2. Chi Town
3. Philly
4. Indy
5. Bean Town
6. NY
7. Atl
8. Clevland!!!!!

Philly got in with 35 wins last yr. If the Hawks stand pat right now — they win 35 games.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

ok, soit doesnt require d will.

jj thank you for all the hard work, seriously. we appreciate your time on the court though you werent able to get us over the hump you sure brought us to the point the basg finally turned back into the asg and are making sensible decisions. i truly wish you well and hope d will doesnt leave you at the alter.

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

Didnt Farmar just sign a new contract with NJ? Or was it just a qualifying offer or something?

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

If Marvin is traded for expiring contract Devin Harris.

Check this out.

Horford and Teague only 2 players under contract at 16mill, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO DANNY

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

Marvin for Devin Harris is agreed in principle according to @ESPNSteinLine

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Just going online and on SportsCenter: Hawks have agreed in principle to deal Marvin Williams to Utah for Devin Harris to shed even more $
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shake&break

July 2nd, 2012
6:59 pm

“I wish we could blocks some of these idiots that talk on here. Some of you guys need to study the buisness side of the NBA.

I actually think we will still be a playoff team next year. Assuming this Harris trade has legs and gets done:

PG: Teague/Pargo
SG: Harris/JF/JJ
SF: Morrow/Stevenson
PF: Smith/Johnson
C: Horford/ZaZa/Petro”

If you think this team makes the playoffs then you are the idiot.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:00 pm

D12 got punked by the Tragic front office when he opted in for the next season, He had them by the balls, now they are basically acting like a”A PIMP NAMED SLICKBACK” and used their Pimp Hand Strong on him LMAO!!

Wabe

July 2nd, 2012
7:00 pm

marvin Williams is GONEEEEEEEEEee

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:00 pm

2013 ATLANTA HAWKS

TEAGUE, ? , JOSH, HORFORD, D12

THE BIG 4

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HowlingOwlSports.com (Kennesaw State Blog/Forums)

July 2nd, 2012
7:01 pm

Marvin for Harris too. Wow, Ferry doesn’t fool around.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:01 pm

King Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Awesome move King Danny!

Wabe

July 2nd, 2012
7:01 pm

Marc Stein is reporting the Hawks have agreed to deal Marvin Williams to Utah for Devin Harris.

Trojanman

July 2nd, 2012
7:01 pm

I think Joe was a really good Hawk. His personality wasn’t to showboat, or be loud. He just came to work and played hard for Atlanta. It’s not his fault the franchise payed him all that money. I would’ve gotten all I could have as well. Stop blaming Joe for that people. Reality is, he is a very good second option on a really good team. He will show that in New York. I am glad that he is able to move on and have a chance to relax and play on a better team (if Williams re-signs). Now what do the Hawks do? We’ve been here before. No stars want to play for the Hawks. Joe leaving doesn’t mean we will get better. Matter of fact, Joe was the only star that ever agreed to stay here to play (albeit for the money). So, before we start applauding this move, we better make sure we can attract other great players to come here to play. Josh is not a star. He is a hustle player, who does Dennis Rodman like work, but not a 1st or 2nd option. We have work to do. I wish you well, Joe. Thanks for your time in the ATL. Now let’s see Danny Ferry earn that check.

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
7:01 pm

It’s not that Joe Johnson was THAT bad; however-I do think he will thrive under Avery Johnson, a REAL coach. Joe won’t be put in Iso situations like the bubbleheaded that couldn’t coach his way out of a bag of ice.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:02 pm

Up next the legendary #2 pick: Marvin Williams!!

Kick rocks Marvin…

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:02 pm

THE CORE NO MORE!!!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:02 pm

Wow, this day is momentous for us fans. Even if Duck was just traded alone I would be here ecstatic but the two worst contracts in one day, MC how do you feel buddy.

ATLien

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Due respect to JJ. He was great for a couple years. But that contract was a total albatross and now it’s gone. Danny Ferry for president is all I can say. I thought it was going to be impossible to actually move the contract and he did. If he can do that for the Hawks, that’s the man I want in Washington fixing stuff that really matters.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Hopefully we did not have to include a pick with Marvin. Nice job Ferry!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Now Marvin, on the other hand, I will not be giving a standing ovation when he returns.

Is it too soon to say Ferry is the best GM in Atlanta?

Rev in Tampa

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Marvin is gone??? An historic day in Hawkville. Almost as good as a championship.

TMACfan

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

MARVIN WILLIAMS IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Okay, posting one more time to show the value of Houston’s #1 pick:

“@ajchawks: RT @KBergCBS: 1st-round pick going to ATL via HOU is top-14 protected through 2016. Becomes 2nd-round pick and cash in 2017.”

Let’s just consider using it and trying to get a 15th pick….not a bad deal for a need. Kawhi Leonard was drafted in 2011, Terrance Jones was #15 this past year.

It just won’t be a lottery pick, so hope for Houston to remain mediocre for the next couple of years.

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Oh no, I forgot-we still need to get rid of Marvin Williams!

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Danny must fire LD now.

This is a new team with a new GM

LD must go.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

GO DANNY!

GO DANNY!

GO DANNY!

GO DANNY!

Vettledi

July 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

OMFG MARVIN FOR HARRIS FERRY IS A WIZARD

UGA

July 2nd, 2012
7:04 pm

Marvin for Harris, done deal, from Sekou

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:04 pm

I don’t think there’s much doubt at this point that Ferry is trying to be a player in free agency next year when CP3 and Dwight are free agents.

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
7:04 pm

Did I hear someone say that Marvin Williams is gone? Esther, I’m coming up yonder honey!

ATLien

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

Marvin also…Danny Ferry 2012…start the campaign!!!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

BEST GM IN HAWKS HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JSS

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

Has anybody called Rod’s (from College Park)cardiologist yet? This blog is about to turn into a Happy House SPA pre-2005!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

Rod from College Park, I can only assume you are too busy partying to post here right now.

decriz

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

“larry drew is a bigger problem. guy cant coach”

absolutely agree

Hawks going nowhere with him at the helm.

Was clamoring for Rick Adelman when he was available. Hawks not making a move for him proves that this franchise is not truly committed to winning.

Still losing that Joe Johnson contract was a GREAT move.

Easy to find similar stats from available crop of FA’s and rookies (current Hawk rookie is a good candidate for minutes)

Hawks can fill the spot with a contingent of SG’s

Leadership now falls on Hoffa’s and JT’s shoulders, even Smoove’s if he decides to stick around.

Losing JJ ball hogging might even turn things around for Marvin.

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

Danny must be on the phone with a beer in his hand with all this good work today. Good job, I am very happy to be a Hawks fan today. Big moves, big balls, big future for Hawks now.

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

Marvin…GONE??? clok out for the day Danny!!!!

MattP

July 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

Wow! More room for 2013, wonder what Ferry is up to.

TMACfan

July 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

JEFF TEAGUE IS STILL THE STARTING POINT GUARD!

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

Marvin gone? 2 down 1 to go. Mooove Smooove!

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

clock out…

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

Northside’s two most favorites Hawks gone…. Wow Ferry must have been reading your post and decided they needed to go.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm

Teague / Harris / Farmar
Morrow / Stevenson / Jenkins (until I see him play)
??? / ???
Smith / Scott / Williams
Horford / Pachulia / Petro

OBAMA

July 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm

I AM EVERYWHERE

Big Crimson 75

July 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm

@ some point, Ferry will get “his” Coach here.
Nellie !!!!!!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm

Danny has the broom out today!

UP the next Larry Leisure!!

Greyhound is ready Larry!

soullrenaissance

July 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

MARVIN IS GONE!!! THE DUCK IS NO MORE – HE’s GONE TO UTAH!!!!

Cant you feel a brand new day!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

Larry Leisure= 28-47 against the winners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bye Bye……..Buster……

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

LMAO Greyhond is honking the horn for Larry to come outside.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Yes. RT @WindhorstESPN Considering Atlanta is home + friends Josh Smith & Anthony Morrow are Hawks, new option for Dwight Howard?
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NCBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

Re: this comg season … I think you guys are assuming Ferry is done here. I think he’s got a few more moves up his sleeve personally.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

Coaches Danny could chose

1. Jerry Sloan

2. Bill Laimbeer

3. Sam Mitchell

4. Is it possible Danny could hire the greastest Coach in NBA hIstory Phil Jackson.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

No need to clap for marvin when the jazz visits because he will be NAILED to the bench, probably in a suit as they refuse to let him wear a jersey.

decriz

July 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

“BEST GM IN HAWKS HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

agree!

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm

Hawks can afford a real coach now too!!!

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm

Big Crimson 75

Philly got in with 35 wins becuse the season was 66 games.

Next year it’ll be back to 82, and 35 will not do it in the East.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm

King Danny is just getting started! He is da Man!

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm

i just looked it over, why is d stevenson still in the league?

JustSayinB

July 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm

Xmas in July! Fire LD!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:11 pm

Literally in one day Ferry undoes three years of uninspired sameness by Sund and the DASG. Amazing.

BigChuck

July 2nd, 2012
7:11 pm

Ok I’m officially a Danny Ferry fan!!! Marvin Williams for Devin Harris has got to be a great trade been trying to get ride of him for years

decriz

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

“1. Jerry Sloan”

the winning move.

will bring that winning and hard working and disciplined culture to Atlanta.

Sloan + Ferry = Atlanta means serious business

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

KenBerg reported that Hawks were in talks with like 20 teams the other day on twitter. No ###! DF not playin games. He probably still on the phone while our owners stand outside and say yessir, yes sir boss.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

By By LD

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

Whats the plan for Harris? He averaged 21 points a season a few years ago. Wouldn’t want that sitting on the bench much. Really small backcourt ALA Golden State?

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

KABOOM!!!! FINALLY!!!

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

This has to be one of the best offseason dates in Hawks’ history!

Down goes Marvin!

Now, we have Teague, Farmar & Harris….BuddyG, you must be giddy! No mo Pargo!

Who’s next? Josh?

bigdave

July 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

AT THE SAME DAMN TIME!!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm

The 4th of July came two days early for us Hawks fans? Huh? AAAAAAAAAlright!…………..

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm

From my source which is me.

“Ferry met with Smith in his feeling on resigning and courting Dwight in next years free agency class. Ferry may offer Al Horford, Anthony Morrow, Atlanta’s 1st round pick and Houston’s 1st round pick for Howard”.

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm

I would be shocked if we got Dwight Howard .

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm

“Whats the plan for Harris? He averaged 21 points a season a few years ago. Wouldn’t want that sitting on the bench much. Really small backcourt ALA Golden State?”

Play him at backup PG (in other words give him Kirk’s minutes) and hope he builds up enough trade value by February to flip him to someone else for a first rounder. If not, let him expire.

As is the case with the poo-poo platter of players the Hawks got from the Nets, Harris’ value is primarily as an expiring contract.

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm

Wow ferry is going HAM ….Marvin to the Jazz for Devin Harris. I got you Ferry on a couple lap dances at Magic City.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:14 pm

Bags pack yet Larry???

I hear that loud BUS HORN OUTSIDE!!!!! YEAH!

Elliot 51

July 2nd, 2012
7:14 pm

As presently constructed this team is a conference semifinals team at best. This is a very good move and hopefully only the beginning.

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:14 pm

decriz…Darrell, don’t tease me man! That can’t be possible?

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

wow, talk about hitting the floor running and focusing on the same things our blog fan base has been crying about for ages? marvin for harris. my goodness things are happening at hyper speed. this is so different from rick sund agenda and reign as the gm it is laughable.

where is our old comfortable summer of sameness? heh heh

Wabe

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

Can’t think back far enough to remember how excited I’ve been about the Hawks…

Finally.

Boom goes the dynamiteeeeeeeee

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

Don’t forget LD also expires after this season. Ferry probably has a nice little vision of CP3, Josh, Dwight, and Phil Jackson sitting in Hawks’ headquarters together next summer signing contracts.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

Devin for Marvin is a steal, Damn Danny just went inside the bank and basically said “put the money in the bag” and did it with out a gun or mask!!!

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

A bad Josh Smith trade could ruin all of this momentum. Slow down and breathe Danny Ferry.

Ken Strickland

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

josh

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

saw on the twitter feed @ajchawks: Source confirms #Hawks deal Marvin Williams for Devin Harris 12 minutes ago

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Atlanta_Hawks/1/Home#ixzz1zVg8FDb0on realgm.com

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

How long under the new CBA must a team keep a traded player before retrade?

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

Ferry still got that amnesty in his back pocket, wow.

shake&break

July 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

When Joe restructures his contract after talking with DWill (who stays) and the Nets sign Howard (after trading Lopez and Wallace or something similar) Good luck making the playoffs for the next five years.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

Hawks will be able to say “NOT 1, NOT 2, NOT 3, 4, 5 LOL!!!

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

Anyone want to see Ferry behind the scenes on The Association?

His big board is en fuego!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

All GET REAL WOULD LOOK GOOD IN ORLANDO..

D12 would look even better in a HAWKS UNI? Yes? Hehehe

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

At this time, Al and Teague are the only players on the Hawks under contract beyond this season. That is $15 million in committed salaries. Easily enough to add two max free agents.

atlnative

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

Bout’ Damn Time!

Chad

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

Enter your comments here

JSS

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

I MUS… What are you trying to do, give the dude a heart attack before he finishes the job?

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm

Rod from College Park, I can only assume you are too busy partying to post here right now.
*******************
LMAO

phil

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

Joe was the team….

We’re doomed now.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

@shake&break,

Really?? This isn’t the NFL man, Joe will be the highest paid player in the league, why restructure when its ALL GARAUNTEEEEEEEEEEEED!!

Chad

July 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:18 pm

I’ll never say a bad thing about ferry. He’s earned enough brownie points no matter how bad his next move will be.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:18 pm

heh heh to myk and slimj.

myk was out there in san fran and you didnt answer on the blog bro. enjoyed my time there immensely especially time in calistoga tasting.

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
7:18 pm

It does appear Marvin Williams is heading out the door we may get Devin Harris in return .

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

Jerry Sloan, Bil Laimbeer, Sam Mitchell, Phil Jackson

Next head coach by next monday.

Man my dream might come true.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLODUS

July 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

Ferry is a GODDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

Ferry taking all the headlines away from the FA class…..incredible.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

“Ferry still got that amnesty in his back pocket, wow.”

No need for it now, with no guaranteed contracts on the roster. My guess is if it gets used, he uses it on Stevenson, who appears to be totally washed up and unable to contribute anything.

hawks_4_life

July 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm

Last time our blog was this excited during the off-season was the whole JJ/Belkin fiasco. (I REFUSE TO SHAKE YOUR HAND)> LOL

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm

Yeah, Ferry already has layed the groundwork, and its only the second day of Free agency. I wonder if he has any thoughts on contracts? maybe Rasard Lewis at small forward for cheap?

BLODUS

July 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm

Even if we are the worst team in the NBA, we are going to be winners!!!!!!!!!!!!

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Can’t believe Danny closed the door on Marvin’s Room. It’s definitely not over.

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Najeh, if you played with the Nyets last year, your stats may look similar to Stevenson….I say give him a chance…he’s no Stackhouse!

Tmgotech

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Thank goodness. Joe is a decent player, but has ANY player done more to destroy a franchise than Joe has done since he signed as a FA? Not all his fault, but I cannot wait until the Joe Johnson era is over.

LOL that we might be able to shell out FA millions next year to sign the point guard we could have had in the draft years ago.

Let’s hope Danny Boy brings some b-ball knowledge to this team’s front office.

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

GOTTA QUESTION FOR PEOPLE IN THE KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THESE DEALS WILL BE RENEGED???

Way too good to be true.

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

damn doc…you got my email bro!!! glad you had a blast tho!!! did i say KABOOM already!!!???LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Remember the days when it took this team two months to figure out whether or not to trade Al Harrington?

The two worst contracts on the team shipped out within a span of one hour. Unbelievable.

TMACfan

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

FWIW JJohnson scored more pts per possession in clutch situations–under 5, within 5 — than anybody this year (Synergy)

PEACE OUT JOE! THANKS FOR ALL YOU DID IN ATLANTA!!

TIME TO MOVE ON!!

Mr.E

July 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Michael Cunningham

July 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm

blog updates with all hell breaking loose.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm

LD is a long gone after next season

i_am_soulstar

July 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm

Stevenson is overrated. I personally hope he stays glued to the bench.

wcj

July 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm

Danny Ferry, you are a genius, and should be the General Manager of the year. GOOD JOB!!!!

Nique's Revenge

July 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

:~)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <— tears of joy!

FERRY FOR PRESIDENT!

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

I think Danny might take Josh into the season on the squard, see how it plays out, and maybe make more deals at the deadline. He said a team isnt built in days, or 6 months, not even a year. Keep it goin DF.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

Hell to the yeah! Bye Marvina

KevinM

July 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

The 2 most critical pieces are done…major kudos….not many GMs would have done what Ferry was bold enough to do…..like Olmsey in Portland going after Hibbert….

Hawks to move out of Atlanta

July 2nd, 2012
7:24 pm

Atlanta Hawks Fans. This is just ownerships long term plans to eventually move the Hawks out of Atlanta. deplete the Roster make it a Bad l team so in a few years they can Sell the Hawks and move them Out of Atlanta

BlindLeadingTheBlind

July 2nd, 2012
7:24 pm

It takes a BEAST of a team to win a Championship. How in the HELL do your trade a guy a year after giving him a MAX deal and get nothing I MEAN nothing in return. Hell why not let him walk a year ago BEFORE the deal. Now your stuck with a sorry azz team an undersized center and a Headcase power forward and 10 guys on min contracts. All for the future huh?? We will see the future in about 6 months with people playing Uno in the seats at Phillips. The 3 or 4 thousand that bother to show up to 5 dollar ticket night. ASG thought they were broke before geeeshhh!!! Yeah his contract was bad but there is a way to do everything. Shipping Josh and Marvin out should have been 1st priority. Now all you have is just LUMP of @%#&*%!!@!!!

Harry Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
7:24 pm

Can’t complain about today’s events. Good job, Danny. Even got a productive PG for Marvin. Again, I can’t complain. This is a new development for me and many other Hawks fans. Yippee!

Jon Koncak

July 2nd, 2012
7:24 pm

Best day to be a Hawks fan since Hawks signed Moses Malone & Reggie Theus…

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:25 pm

ROFL @ MC

what a sense of humor. ever see this type of action bfore after so little?

Pete E. Tong

July 2nd, 2012
7:25 pm

Hahahaha! Marvin Williams is off to Utah!

Danny Ferry is a godsend.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
7:25 pm

If Dwight Howard truly wanted out of Orlando, he should have opted out when he had the chance. When you have an opprotunity to control your on movement, you never relinquish it to someone else. He did, and now he wants to be traded to the Nets.

Could be a free agent right now, and decide which team he signs with.

Vettledi

July 2nd, 2012
7:25 pm

At this pace, Ferry will get Dwight Howard, Michael Jordan and Lebron James for Ivan Johnson by Sunday morning

Hows the Seattle Hawks sound

July 2nd, 2012
7:25 pm

The Seattle Hawks

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

MC, I think this is more like “all heaven breaking loose”.

Wabe

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

ESPN.com seems to be saying the Hawks could be players for Dwight…

If the Hawks could dish players at Orlando to get Dwight, and then make a run at CP3 a year from now…

Anybody see it plausible?

J.J.M.

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

im taking voka shots!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

unbelievable doc what has gone down in 1 hour?

It took 44 years for this to happen? LMAO…

How does all this make Sund look like?

Like he checked out years ago? Hmmmmmmmmm

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

Tom Haberstroh ‏@tomhaberstroh
Yep, Danny Ferry just made Atlanta a *potential* landing spot for both Chris Paul AND Dwight Howard in FA next season.
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Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

Jazz organization will be like WTF!! Thats after marvin gets blocked going up for a dunk or layup in their first scrimmage

Jon Koncak

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

Devin Harris is an interesting player-good move. Cant wait to see what Ferry will end up doing w/all of these moves.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

funny, after several years of suggesting or pleading to get farmar of d harris we get them both in one day.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

Will Marvin even beat out Gordon Hayward for a starting spot?

JSS

July 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

You got Cap space, that is not getting “nothing” in return!

shake&break

July 2nd, 2012
7:27 pm

I have never heard or seen such a group of fans so excited when losing a multiple year all star, one of the best three or four at his position, one that has led your team to the playoffs for consecutive years, gotten in no trouble and basically played hard even while being hurt.

Remember just because you lose his contract does not promise you will get the right pieces in return. I t would be different if the Hawks franchise had a history or had won a recent championship and tried to rebuild. Examples include the Bulls, the Lakers, the Celtics and even the Heat to a certain degree. Yet, the Hawks have no history other than what JJ and Nique provided. Now both are gone and you are placing your future in Al Horford. Go figure!!!

OneManBandStand

July 2nd, 2012
7:28 pm

i_am_soulstar,

Stevenson will sign 3-year contract worth $6.7M. He will earn $2.3M in Year 1, years 2 and 3 are non-guaranteed.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:28 pm

“Remember just because you lose his contract does not promise you will get the right pieces in return”

Yes, but it gives you the opportunity to get the right pieces in return. With Joe on the roster, that was impossible because of his contract.

luis

July 2nd, 2012
7:28 pm

This is music to my ears!! I never thought this would ever happen. JJ’s stats are so deceiving. Ive seen games where he only puts up 6 points!! or espn would show a game where put up 22 without noting the truth (14 in the 1st half and 8 in the second). Joe is a good role player, but he is no all-star, especially one that is worth max contract. He does not provide leadership nor does he have the ability to take over a game. Ask any true hawks fan – did you actually feel comfortable giving joe the ball when down by 2 & 2sec left in the 4th quarter?! Ill cut my “losses” and plan for the future. Now the key is “what will we do with the money”. Hopefully they get at teague, horford and josh and let them know they are our foundation.

HAWKEE

July 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

I love this deal! The Hawks will still get into the playoffs with teague, josh, hortford, jenkins, stevenson or marvin. They can sign some of those bench players like pargo, green and even mcgrady, scott and morrow. I like this team already.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

slimj sund was a ghost in a earthly body the way he “worked”. talk about teflon? how long was he in the business doing the sameness act. wonder if danny wonder boy is still consulting him?

heh heh heh heh

well too much has happened to keep him in the cross hairs of al the nay sayers on his draft.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

Wow CP3 AND D12 in 2013

Thanks Danny your the King of the south now.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Loserville USA

July 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

Something’s up….this is all good, however. And remember who’s good buddies with Dwight…..Josh Smith.

Jon Koncak

July 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

I think they’re going after Dwight.

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

Nuff said shake&break, WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE CULTURE HERE AND WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, tired of 1st & 2nd Rd exits in embarrassing fashion, the team capped out, time to go in a new direction. Yeah maybe we are worse next season but the future is so so bright afterwards

doc

July 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

myk tried to find the email and send something as a heads up but guess it didnt go through.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

I’m not impressed with Harris at PG. Living in the Northeat, I get all of the Nets’ games on YES, and Harris was just not that great.

Maybe this was just to get Marvin’s contract off the books, but what does it mean for Teague?

Danny Boy is blowing this thing up!!!!!!

Sund would never have done any of this.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
7:32 pm

CP3, Dwight, and Al will be the Hawks Big Three!

This could be very exciting…in a year or two!

Luke Cage

July 2nd, 2012
7:32 pm

Still don’t think D12 is coming to Atl

Loserville USA

July 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

WHen’s the last time Atlanta had a sports day this good?

random

July 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

jay i think u mean josh, why on earth would they trade josh if thats his childhood friend

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

Jay Dubu, Devin Harris is and expiring contract.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
7:34 pm

Marvin seemed like a nice kid but I did not like his game. Couldnt take his man off the dribble, terrible at finishing at the rim, missing a bunch of wide open looks, getting his shot blocked by smaller players..Devin Harris is not the same player he was years ago but all we need him to be is solid..

Kevin, Stevenson is garbage. I watched a lot of Nets games last year and dude was flat out terrible. I hope he is included in a move. I dont want to see him play at all.

Brian

July 2nd, 2012
7:34 pm

As a FORMER season tix holder (1995-2006)………….I AM OFFICIALLY BACK!!! ATL tix reps….get ready for my call in the morning. Finally we have someone with brains running the organization! Hat’s off to the ATL Spirit Group………..can’t believe I said it……..let me think, yes……..Thanks ATL Spirit Group for bringing Danny Ferry to the ATL! Cleaning up the mess.

wcj

July 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm

Danny Ferry also traded Marvin Williams to Utah for Dervin Harris, this guy is good folks.

deepdirtybench!

July 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm

Lol, we get rid of the two worst contracts in Hawks history, most likely get to keep Ivan and i get a new signature!

“blog updates with all hell breaking loose.”

Michael Cunningham, July 2nd, 2012, 7:22 pm

Loserville USA

July 2nd, 2012
7:36 pm

Ferry just gave all of us lap-band surgery.

Tremaine

July 2nd, 2012
7:36 pm

Merry Christmas fellow Hawks fans.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:36 pm

I don’t think Josh belongs at SF, but to be honest, if they can get CP3 and Dwight here, I have no problem with Josh playing SF and Al playing PF. They can find a way to make it work.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:38 pm

CP3 27 YEARS

D12 27 YEARS

JOSH 27YEARS

HORFORD 26YEARS

WOW

THE BIG 4

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rod from College Park

July 2nd, 2012
7:39 pm

Any GM who gets rid of Marvin Williams is good with me. I’m of the Ferry bandwagon. Peace Marvin Williams. Webarely knew you.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:39 pm

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/07/02/nets-hawks-joe-johnson-trade/

In a talent in/talent out equation, there is no argument: The Nets win in a landslide. And yet, it is hard to find any big-picture way that the Hawks lose a trade in which they manage to unload a 31-year-old shooting guard who will be paid $25 million when he is 35.

Couldn’t have said it any better. This is the NBA where you lose the best player in a trade and win the trade in the big picture.

Rod from College Park

July 2nd, 2012
7:40 pm

Got rid of Joe, got rid of Marvin, AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
7:40 pm

This shows how useless Sund was

Who is our SF now?

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm

Even if the Joe trade doesnt go thru, at least the curse of 2005 is finally outta here.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm

Hypothetically, does CP3/Morrow/Josh/Al/Dwight beat the Heat? I think they have a pretty good chance.

Mr.E

July 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm

Wait I just realized this means Ivan and Stephenson in one team.

Cops better be on standby at Philips…

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
7:42 pm

I wonder would

D12 EXCEPT 17MILL

CP3 EXCEPT 17MILL

JOSH EXCEPT 15MILL

HORFORD 12MILL

61 MILL 4 PLAYERS

Would CP3 AND D12 except less money for championships.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
7:42 pm

Gonna have to find yourself a new whipping boy Rod. lol

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:42 pm

within 2-3 years the Atlanta Hawks maybe in their 1st ECF EVER?

okay, will be…Yeah!!!!!!!!!

Rod "straight outta Augusta" Johnson

July 2nd, 2012
7:43 pm

It’s Official: Danny Ferry is the “Pimp of the Year”

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:43 pm

The true core was always JT, JS, Al(…) we may get another core sooner than later. Ferry is about to make Josh the centerpiece of the team and Dwite and Paul have to listen.

Eb

July 2nd, 2012
7:44 pm

Best news of the Summer! We get rid of two nooses but more importantly it seems to signify the ASG may be getting out of the way. This is a very important step to this franchise’s ability to build a team that is respected and can win when it counts.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
7:44 pm

I want to get a quote from Josh Smith….maybe Al Horford too.

New hawk blood

July 2nd, 2012
7:44 pm

Sounds great to me!

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:44 pm

We finna sign Dwite and Paul AT THE SAME DAMN TIME!!!

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

Danny Ferry aint messin’ around! Complete the day by trading Smooove.

tony

July 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

Got us a true pg. Thank you Mr Ferry.

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

Doc Rivers would be the ideal coach for the Hawks. Just sayin’

Who's next?

July 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

Get Orlando on the phone. Zaza for Dwight.

DW

July 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

Good moves! Get rid of the dead weight and start from scratch. This team will seriously contend in 2- 3 years.

DS

July 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

@darrell: “accept”

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

D12 is coming Home Ya’ll!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

We are gonna suck this year but I hope we can land some FAs

gocanes1

July 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

Any rumors on Josh being next ? to Celtics

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

Let it be know that I was the first person to purposed the Marvin Williams for Devin Harris trade last week. Uh, Danny Ferry I have this whole Hawks fan blog to confirm my proposal. Therefore, I will be accepting my consultant fee as soon as the trade is finalize.

lgwest

July 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

Three working days, three moves, juist keep it coming. Man!!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
7:47 pm

Jeva

July 2nd, 2012
7:47 pm

Mr. Ferry, great moves today, great way to maximize a going nowhere team. Now, take a quantum step, find a trade for Josh Smith, move the coach out, then bring back a team that cares about the community, and not hanging out in the strip clubs. This city deserves a championship team, but first we need champions who walk the walk, not just talk it. Last but not least, meet with the press on the regular to help elevate community support. This city has no loyalty for losers. Good job…

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:48 pm

Bill Laimbeer would get it done!

He has coached the women to multiple titles!

He can do the same for the Hawks..

He would be a great hire….

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
7:48 pm

Rod from College Park
July 2nd, 2012
7:40 pm

Got rid of Joe, got rid of Marvin, AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

Put Danny Ferry on 2 Chainz Remix…

aints=Dung

July 2nd, 2012
7:48 pm

There ya go, the foundation for a championship!!

glw

July 2nd, 2012
7:49 pm

Cant believe they moved Marvin, not that Im complaining, I cant believe it was a straight up deal, IM sure we had to send them a draft pick or something , if they took Marvin straight up for Harris, Utah are straight up fools!!!!

BLODUS

July 2nd, 2012
7:50 pm

Let’s not make the playoffs this year, get a lottery pick…..get a good player there, sign D12, CP..Championship. We’ll have really good players at every position, we’ll have Dynastyyy hehehe

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:50 pm

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Besides how Hawks now in play for Dwight, either via trade or 2013 free agency, story details how Josh Smith has been moved by Ferry’s moves
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Here’s the link to the Stein story on ESPN which I’m assuming will be updated.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8124428/atlanta-hawks-trade-marvin-williams-utah-jazz-devin-harris-according-sources

Sounds from that tweet like the Hawks may be changing Josh’s mind.

random

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

stop the saying trade josh smith already, if we trade smith dwight for sure isnt signing here

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

Haha @ all these “same damn time” posts.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

D12 coming Home YA’LL!

tjhook

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

To all of you people talking about trade Smoove- NO! Smoove plays hard and wants to win, just needs a stronger hand. This is his show me year. By the way, I hope Danny Ferry takes a look at Rudy Gay for an acquisition. We have three point guards – one of them has to go.

alpha male

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

This city has no loyalty for losers

really?? see Braves, UGA, and Falcons for details…

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

The flurry of action, after years of restraint from the Hawks, has also made a fast impression in Smith, sources said. Smith had been vocal for months about wanting to be dealt, but sources told ESPN.com that the swingman is excited about the direction Ferry has taken things in his brief time in charge.

“He’s changed the whole perception of the organization,” one source said.

YES

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 pm

SIGN D12 NEXT YEAR, RESIGN SMOOVE, GET A SG IN LOTTERY!!!

ATL GOT THIS!!!

Matt

July 2nd, 2012
7:52 pm

Lets Hope the Braves can do the same thing this off season. Get a New GM and Start over with them

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
7:52 pm

Wow, I think we found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Damn, Ferry got me getting my money right for a nice ticket package. The ownership has shown humility and they are finally using their heads. This is turning into a great summer.

alpha male

July 2nd, 2012
7:52 pm

Howard and Smith…thats just what the Hawks need…2 selfish headcases…

prison mike

July 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm

What else can Ferry do Josh, sign long term and get some of your buddies here ie Dwhite, Paul and let’s stick to these gay Heat players.

I can't believe it's happening

July 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm

Am I dreaming? I need to wake up and check my sheets….

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm

Wow Marvin Williams gone too?????? SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm

AT THE SAME DAMN TIME!!!!

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm

When did ASG wake up Danny Ferry is the man !

@atlsportsfan4eva

July 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

This Blog is blowing up. Great moves today DannyBoy.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

The question now: when is D12 coming Home Ya’ll? Hmmmmmm

not never, or how..”When” is the operative word……

King Danny is a great multi-tasker!

Absolute Baller!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

I am getting way ahead of myself, but it would be pretty funny if Danny Ferry built the team that took LeBron’s Heat down in the East.

Carpio7

July 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

Danny was just getting rid of Joe and Marvin. He plans to pair Dwight and Josh together. It’s the only way to get Dwight to come back to Atlanta!

Teague.
Stevenson.
Smith.
Horford.
Howard.

Miami, Chicago, Boston, or whoever is it can not beat a team that stacked defensively. They can all score points as well.

@atlsportfan4eva

July 2nd, 2012
7:55 pm

What’s next on the list?

Nate ArchiBALL

July 2nd, 2012
7:55 pm

tyger

July 2nd, 2012
7:56 pm

Welcome to the 2013 Lottery…

LD just went from a .500+ winning coach to the .200…
The half empty arena just got emptier…
The buzz just went silent…

Let’s look to next year:
Which rookie will carry us to the promised land?
Which Free Agent?

This year’s class was deep but devoid of stars…
None of these guys better than Marvin…
Next years FA: Chris Paul and DHoward…

Who would touch either one of them?
DHoward is a drama queen…
Chris Paul is slow and fat…
Did it do the Magic or Clips any good?

Just have to wonder aloud…
How much losing can a fragile ATL mkt withstand?…

HAPPY HAWK

July 2nd, 2012
7:57 pm

GREAT DEAL LONG OVERDUE!!!!!!!!!!!

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
7:57 pm

I guess all it took were a few phone calls, huh? The next few weeks should be interesting, Hawks have more guards than the Queen of England.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
7:58 pm

Please DO NOT let Sund remain with this franchisd

Harry Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
7:58 pm

Oh, Danny Boy, the fans, the fans are cheering…

honest_abe

July 2nd, 2012
7:58 pm

i can’t stop smiling.

ryan

July 2nd, 2012
7:58 pm

Spurs have got to be thinking why did let Ferry go .

Drizzy

July 2nd, 2012
7:59 pm

We definitely gettin CP3 and Dwight next summer… This is ONE of my best moments as a Hawks fan, Bye Joe and Marvin…!

julius

July 2nd, 2012
8:00 pm

great move Mr Ferry now lets find a real nba coach and a good center

3d

July 2nd, 2012
8:00 pm

90 million?????????????????????

UGA

July 2nd, 2012
8:00 pm

As of now, Devin Harris will start at the 2 like an Avery Bradley type…….read we have interest in Ebanks

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:01 pm

” Hawks have more guards than the Queen of England”

AJ, I have to give you the best One Liner in Years!!!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
8:01 pm

BILL LAIMBEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:02 pm

Marvin for one year of Devin? I’ll take it. If nothing else, we have a quick dang backcourt for one year, if a small one.

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:02 pm

We need a Beast at Small forward, and we’ll be good this year.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
8:03 pm

random

Josh already said he wants out of ATL, and he’s a free agent after next season. So Josh will be leaving for a market where he thinks the fans and the organization wants to win a title.

Tremaine

July 2nd, 2012
8:04 pm

I rather have Howard and Horford.

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:04 pm

Josh is now without a doubt the best player on this team. We should get rid of LD around X-Mas!!!

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:05 pm


Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

I am getting way ahead of myself, but it would be pretty funny if Danny Ferry built the team that took LeBron’s Heat down in the East.

I’m gonna file this one away. Because if you’re right…then it deserves to be remembered, LOL.

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
8:05 pm

LOL@Devin Harris being a natural pg. What Devin Harris have you been watching the past few years? Dude is a scoring guard. I like the move but Harris is not the same player he once was. I think he becomes trade bait at the deadline or they just let his contract expire.

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Lacsho !

Good to see ya still kickin, bruh…how’s ya boy?

wcj

July 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Josh Smith may feel that the hawks are starting over again. I can not seeing him wanting to play with this team. Most his buddies are gone. He will surely want out of Altanta now.

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Im not a big fan of Beasley but he would be a solid option at sf. Doesnt defend but he can sore.

Tremaine

July 2nd, 2012
8:07 pm

Danny Ferry already won GM of the Year for next season.

LakeDawg

July 2nd, 2012
8:07 pm

If we keep Smooove, we need a coach or player who will biatch slap him every time he grabs a rebound, refuses to pass to the PG, and then jacks a three in a CRITICAL part of the game.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
8:07 pm

Dewight’s wish denied!!!!!! Good, he’s not going to the Nets! Thanks JOE!

Come on home D12!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
8:08 pm

BILL LAIMBEER!

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:08 pm

What happened to the Nets first round pick? Some say we got one and others that we did not.

Lacsho, thanks.

Torry

July 2nd, 2012
8:09 pm

WHOOO HOOO!!!!….this is the best news I’ve ever gotten from the HAWKS…I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again Joe Johnson is a good number 2 better number 3..but he is not a number 1…good riddence!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marcus

July 2nd, 2012
8:09 pm

Wow. Danny Ferry is one slick-talking son of a ….

Queen Elizabeth I better be glad she ain’t around…ol’ Danny boy would have her drawers around her ankles before the late news and sportin’ a tee-shirt with a scarlet ‘A’ by morning time …and cooking him some breakfast to boot.

pnut

July 2nd, 2012
8:09 pm

Lord help da hawks,got robbed without a gun! maby people need to start going to the game @phillips then we can pay somebody??????

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:10 pm

No more Iso, No more Iso, Hey Hey Goodbyyyyeeee!!!!

Duke The Dumpster Drose

July 2nd, 2012
8:11 pm

About time someone else started takin’ out the trash! Good job Danny boy!!

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
8:12 pm

Josh Smith need 2 have a GOP summit in 2013 at his house.

Who all envited.

Horford, CP3, D 12,

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now dump the players

July 2nd, 2012
8:12 pm

Great move! Johnson has to be the most overpaid player in all of sports.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

Josh is going to want JJ money when his contract expires, and so will Dwight, and CP3.

The Hawks may be able to have 2 of the 3 with Al in tow, but the remainder of the cast will be street players like myself, who will play for the TV time, gatorade, and locker rooom spread.

Tremaine

July 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

We got the Rockets first round pick instead of the Nets which is another smart move since the Nets will probably make the playoffs next year and the Rockets won’t.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

Two unmovables in the same day, just daaamn.

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:15 pm

What’s Good Big Ray, this news brought me out of blog retirement. My son went to his first football camp this past weekend. He been going to a conditioning camp for a month now. These coaches have been after him for years, so he’s playing football in the fall. I cannot wait.

Big Ray we’ve been praying for a GM like Ferry. I hope all is well with you and the family.

Tank

July 2nd, 2012
8:15 pm

Now the celtics are the ones holding on to their core, although they did win a title.

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:15 pm

Exactly Doc!!!

Chuck UGA

July 2nd, 2012
8:16 pm

Wow, this is good stuff. I may start going to Hawks games again. Ferry is not insane like other Hawks GM’s were by continuing to do the same darn thing while expecting different results. Now we’ll see if the coach can really coach!

Mr. G

July 2nd, 2012
8:16 pm

Najeh, whos going to coach those guys?

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
8:16 pm

Lemme ask again:

Who knows how long a team must wait (under the new CBA) before re-trading a player acquired by trade?

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:18 pm

“Now we’ll see if the coach can really coach!”

Right on Chuckster!!!

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
8:19 pm

D wade, Lebron, Chris

Had there GOP SUMMIT IN 2010

Now

Josh, Horford, CP3, D 12

GOP SUMMIT 2013

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

doc

July 2nd, 2012
8:19 pm

Lacsho many old timers reporting in bro, not just you, big ray, honest, myk….

Agreed on AJ line that is the classic AJ we love like a brother. Heh heh

ShoNuff

July 2nd, 2012
8:19 pm

Well…not happy with the pieces we got from this deal, but it is a step towards rebuilding. The Rockets pick is lottery-protected, so we won’t get that pick since they won’t make the playoffs

UGAJD

July 2nd, 2012
8:19 pm

A quote from ESPN: “…Ferry will have shed their two most onerous contracts — Johnson and Williams — in his first week-plus on the job.” Helluva good first week, Danny-boy!

Jae Evolution

July 2nd, 2012
8:20 pm

Just saw this on another message board, pretty funny

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22870221.jpg

terrell

July 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Can we new announcers as well? Sorry Nique.

gcs

July 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Two down, one to go. Josh for Gasol. Don’t be greedy, Lakers.

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Sautee ,

Can’t remember. Wish another original would speak up. Maybe Northcyde knows, but clearly he’s in mourning…

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:24 pm

Sautee…trades are not official until the 11th. Hawks are free to “flip” any players acquired by trade until then.

Marcus

July 2nd, 2012
8:25 pm

Let me see if my math is right:
We had 6 players under contract: Al, JJ, Marvin, Teague, Zaza, and Smoove
We traded 2 (JJ, and Marvin), we get back 6 – (5 players from NJ and 1 player from Utah)
Now, once this deal is finalized we ill have 10 players under contract, a QO out to Ivan (pending his acceptance) that leaves us with 2 spots to fill the min. roster count of 13 players and what appears to be millions of dollars of potential cap space (via expiring contracts) for Summer 2013.

man …. ol’ Danny could talk Ghandi into eating at a rib shack.

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:25 pm

Lacsho ,

Doing well, doing well.

LD’s head has GOT to be spinning right about now. Fuh REAL

hawksfancents95

July 2nd, 2012
8:25 pm

is it devin harris for marvin straight up?
why the heck would utah take on that salary and years of marvin, and for no pick or nothing?
does GM DF got some blackmail on some of these franchises or what? how do you get rid of the two worst salaries on our team in ONE day! if Sund is still in the front office i really wana know what is going through his head, DF just got rid of everything Sund did in 4 years in about a week lmfao.

PD

July 2nd, 2012
8:26 pm

Great trade……..Lot’s of wiggle room and we keep some good players.

EmirS.

July 2nd, 2012
8:26 pm

Vettledi
July 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

“‘If Ferry is able to find someone ABLE to make a trade with Marvin I take the first flight from Paris to Atlanta and give him a BJ”

You a man of your word?

“I’m here regardless of who is on the team.

Can’t the rest of you say the same?” – northcyde

All day.

My 2 cents:

I’m very excited for the future of this organization. It may be true we are not championship level material. Maybe not even 2nd round material. But of the possibilities that have risen with these trades…can’t help but raise the eyebrows of the upcoming free agents. I think it should be clear what Danny Ferry is doing. He’s following the Celtic and Heat blueprint. Pierce/Allen/Garnett ….James/Wade/Bosh….Smith/Howard/Paul??

I hope CP3 realizes he has no chance of winning a title with the Clippers. I’ve not been fond of the Clippers last year and still not. They are still far from being legit title contenders. I;m not saying the Hawks are any closer. But if we manage to get Howard with Smith….then we are automatically in the top 3. That’s considering that CP3 joins them.

Sadly, I will not get my hopes up high. I’ve learned my lesson. It will be brewing in the back of my mind. But again these kind of scenarios are hard to pull off.

In a closing statement….am I the only one that can’t help but think Ferry chose the Nets just to give them Joe to screw them over from signing Howard? With Wallace, JJ, AND Williams…they are cap strapped to sign Howard in any way, shape, or form. It’s a long shot….but don’t the Hawks have the assets now to get Howard? We can give them Horford, expiring contracts, and a first round pick? Isn’t that what the magic have been wanting? You get an All-Star in Horford. You get expiring contracts that will give them cap space to sign their own free agents and they still get a first round pick to rebuild fast.

random

July 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

All i have to say if we sign dwight howard, look out for the secret hawk fans aka bandwagoners

Don!

July 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

Wow. Just wow. I love Joe, but that contract is a franchise killer. Marvin needs a change of scenery, and a team that will match his skill set with its tempo.

I think we just went from a 4-seed to an 8-seed next season, but I think we have the potential to be better down the road today than we were yesterday. The key here is building around a real superstar, and how we get one. Is the plan to draft one in ‘13 or ‘14, or to build the framework and poach one from another team in the same period?

Just for getting us out of salary cap purgatory, Danny might have a shot at NBA Exec of the Year — but if he gets us a quality team that’s one player away … and then finds a way to land that one player … well, that would be almost as good as getting rid of this ownership group.

Later,

Don!

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

lol@terrell. Yea no more Nique. What sf’s are available? I know Beasley is a free agent but I dont know what other sf’s are out there.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

Sautee…the answer any other time, is two months. Have to wait two months before trading that player away.

marco

July 2nd, 2012
8:30 pm

Let go hawks, know it time get a big. Why not try lakers with Al and Teague for Bynum and a second round pick. So if D. Howard dont sign long term somewhere u have bynum for sign and trade deal. Find a small forward i the free agent market. Know u have josh,dwight,and cap space to go after chris paul

Only takes 5

July 2nd, 2012
8:30 pm

Way to go Danny, Super start. Traded right players. Kept Josh Smith, Al Horford, Jeff Teague. Move Horford to 4. We have Smith at 3. Teague at 1. We and other teams need a dominant center. You drafted Jenkins at 2. With the lottery pick next year, get the best dang center possible. Draft well, sign correct free agents, and Hawks have our five players. Sign Smith to a fair but not anchor contract. Keep it up Danny. Great start.

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:33 pm

Emir Ferry is good friends with the Nets GM

Ken Strickland

July 2nd, 2012
8:34 pm

One thing is certain, we can forget about any JSmith and MWilliams for Gasol trade. With the successful trade of JJohnson and MWilliams, some of our more delusional fans have become even more delusional by day dreaming about us automatically signing DHoward and CP3.

With Marvin and JJ gone, we’ll have to sign a starting SF.

marco

July 2nd, 2012
8:35 pm

Hawks need to go after micheal beasley to play the 3 and may marcus camby to strengthen the bench. We also could bring over Sey the guy from 2010 draft.

Zing

July 2nd, 2012
8:36 pm

I agree Tremaine — Danny Ferry gets GM of the Year for somehow, someway, figuring out a way to dispose of JJ without amnesty! Holy cow!

Ridonkulous

July 2nd, 2012
8:36 pm

This is marvelous news. Finally, a GM in this town who knows when something needs fixing. (I’m looking at you Frank Wren).

Joe and Marvin gone in one night.

Good times.

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
8:37 pm

Just Joe,

Thanks. My guess is that some of the guards go in a subsequent trade before training camp.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:37 pm

Looks like Josh Smith is a fan of Danny Ferry. “He’s changed the whole perception of the organization.”.

Rod from College Park

July 2nd, 2012
8:37 pm

Northcyde is on suicide watch. His two favorite players are gone. Hope with don’t have to hear anymore fantasy league stats from him.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
8:37 pm

With this kind of action, there will be no more Collins on the roster. The Hawks need players that can score, and play D.

Jay Dubu

July 2nd, 2012
8:38 pm

Josh realizes that he may just get his wish now that he sees the Hawks have a GM that’s not afraid to make moves.

He’s a little nervous.

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
8:39 pm

So will this go down in Hawks lore as “Miracle Monday”?

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
8:40 pm

What’s good My brother Ken Strikland, I agree 100% we need a scorer for the SF position.

Ra'mon

July 2nd, 2012
8:41 pm

O’B, I told you Josh’s feelings would change with Ferry and making some moves!

not done yet?

July 2nd, 2012
8:43 pm

So is Josh going to get traded too? I know he has wanted out in the past but things can change.

Jay

July 2nd, 2012
8:43 pm

Danny Ferry,

I love you.

Sincerely,
Long-time Hawks fan

glw

July 2nd, 2012
8:43 pm

Everybody is real happy right now,

But how are we going to feel if somehow the Nets pull off a deal and get D12? He says he wants to play there an nowhere else. Im sure there are enough loopholes for them to make it happen. They wanted to hang on to Green and Brooks for a reason. Think about it, Brooks is a 2 guardjust like Joe and Green plays SF same as Wallace….so why you think they woldnt give them up unless they still plan on making it happen with Dwight? Yeah we will have cap space, but we might just have helped the Nets become a championship contender too.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
8:44 pm

Gasol and his lock down defense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZDwOCr2IB4

Yea delusional some of these Hawks fans….Hehehe

Jhawk

July 2nd, 2012
8:44 pm

all these people say were gonna be in the lottery don’t forget trades and free agency no telling who they could pick up… I liked Joe but he just didn’t fit the hawks athletic style of run and gun he liked standing around playing with the ball to much hey look I can dribble and play one on one…

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:44 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8124428/atlanta-hawks-trade-marvin-williams-utah-jazz-devin-harris-according-sources

Interesting. Are we to assume in any sort of way that this is to please Smith? Is that the suggestion here? Ha. There is a twist here, and we have yet to see it finished.

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
8:45 pm

then next time doc!! July 2…Hawks KABOOM day!!! or Danny Ferry Day!!!! both work!!!

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
8:45 pm

Hawks had to make moves, it was the only way. I would rather try and improve than to stay the same and get killed again in the playoffs, and have the national media ignore us.

Bruce

July 2nd, 2012
8:45 pm

Glad they are gone but those people that think the Hawks with be a 7 or 8 seed next yr must be using some really good stuff. Back to the Hawks I have known for years but hopefully a much better team in a few yrs. Still amazes me how many people just assume that we can get whomever we want in free agency in the next few yrs. I remember the last time the team was blown up and got lots of cap space. That didn’t work out too well. Hope this time is better.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
8:46 pm

Okay Danny here is the blue print.

2013 Atlanta Hawks

1. JOSH 15mill

2. HORFORD 12mill

3. CP3 17mill

4. D12 17mill

5. TEAGUE 3MILL

6. JENKINS 1 MILL

7. SMITH 8 HUNDRED

8. JORDAN 8 HUNDRED

9. ?

10 ?

11.?

12.?

65mill with 8 players sign

Danny fill in the blanks.

Atleast 4 nba titles for the Hawks

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jhawk

July 2nd, 2012
8:47 pm

Hey glw the hawks can’t stay with a losing squad and horde a player who doesn’t fit just cause it may help someone else. The Hawks have to wheel and deal and get someone or more than one who can put them over the top..

northcyde

July 2nd, 2012
8:47 pm

LOL slimjr . . . you’ll never learn I see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3aMe4HFhuw

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
8:47 pm

The team really hasnt been blown up yet, we have only replaced two starters. Yet one starter was an all star

hawksfancents95

July 2nd, 2012
8:47 pm

ill call it miracle monday sautee, when i woke up this morning i thought just another day but this is really something else for us true hawks fans.
so is our lineup so far..
PG teague SG d.harris SF j.smith PF horford C pachullia

and btw, im starting to like john jenkins more and more after watching him play a bit and his stats at Vandy and the SEC.

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
8:48 pm

Stein on Twitter said if Hawks had Smith, Horford, and Dwight, then it would be like Melo, Amare, and Chandler in New York. One must not be there.

dap01

July 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

The only reason that he would trade for another top PG is for another planned move. We have an large whole at SF and maybe even SG.

Danny is giving hope and inspiration to all Hawk fans. This is a GREAT DAY!

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

Sautee, I don;t kow. The old rules had some provisions for trading a newly acquired player by himself vs. trading him with other players… I think they were different timeframes. I’ll look for it. Obviously, teams who need guards with expiring contracts pretty much have a single place to go. Ferry has cornered the market on that commodity. I’m sure they will wait for the 30 or 45 or however many days is required.

Do these trades happen tomorrow or do they have to wait until the free agent signing period starts (July 11th I think).? I assume the Joe trade has to wait since we’re getting Stevenson in a S&T, but the Marvin trade should happen officially tomorrow.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

STARTER CP3, JENKINS, JOSH, HORFORD, D12

BENCH TEAGUE, ? , SMITH, JORDAN, ?

RESERVE ?, ?, ?

BILL LAIMBEER HEAD COACH

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

glw…if you’re Orlando are you taking Lopez, Brooks, Green, and a 2014 pick (can’t trade next year’s) for Dwight? That would be Lopez on the new deal “of his choice” knowing that he’s the key to the trade. That’s the same Lopez that only played 5 games last year, and the year before averaged less than 6 rebounds per game. Would you feel comfortable with an Anderson / Lopez front line?

TNScott

July 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

When was the last time a Hawks blog produced 13 pages in 3 1/2 hours in the middle of summer?

Chris

July 2nd, 2012
8:50 pm

I’M HERE LOL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
8:51 pm

Let’s see:

3 PGs
3 SGs*
0 SF
3 PFs**
3 Cs

… A bit unbalanced. I hope Ferry isn’t done yet.

* And not one of them could be considered quality starting material.
** counting Jordan Williams and Ivan Johnson as PFs

gcs

July 2nd, 2012
8:51 pm

Now dump that bum Larry Drew and go get a REAL coach. What’s Phil Jackson up to?

W. R. Terrell

July 2nd, 2012
8:51 pm

DANNY FERRY is the MAN!…….DANNY FERRY is the MAN!….DANNY FERRY is the MAN!…..Need I say more, oh yeah, DANNY FERRY is the MAN!….Hey, did I tell ya’ll that DANNY FERRY is the MAN!

thrasherdawg

July 2nd, 2012
8:52 pm

Remember the Joe Johnson deal… cost the owners tons of money, which caused a huge law-suit between owners, which eventually led to the Thrashers being pushed out of Atlanta. Hawks never get past the 2nd round and we lost a NHL franchise all because of this and now he is no longer here.

That Atlanta Spirit….they’ve done more damage to Atlanta than Sherman.

Ra'mon

July 2nd, 2012
8:53 pm

So guys, I hope we all realize that Larry Drew was just fired! The day that the Hawks stopped accepting mediocrity, is the day that LD’s timer was set to be let go. There’s no way that Ferry entrusts whoever he signs next offseason with LD. This will be LD last season as Hawks coach, and that’s id he even coaches this season. LD will have to pull a coaching job similar to what Rivers did in Orlando to keep this job.

kirkinga

July 2nd, 2012
8:53 pm

I think GM Ferry watched the tape of Game 2 against Boston and realized that this “core” had already taken several steps backwards. So far so good, but it is clear that more need to go. I know that some here are refusing to let go of the “organic growth” idea, but fans should have to wait a few more seasons for certain players to get it.

EmirS.

July 2nd, 2012
8:54 pm

One thing I don’t quite understand and have not been able to find this:

Why did the Utah jazz do this trade for Marvin? I’ve been looking at ESPN comments and other articles on the net, but haven’t found an answer at all.

Erik

July 2nd, 2012
8:54 pm

I’m excited about this but I’m still a little apprehensive about the type of team Ferry will mesh together after what happened in Cleveland. I guess we’ll find out.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Josh. I don’t really see how we can continue on with he and Al playing the 4 and 5 positions and be any more successful than we already have been, especially when you consider the type of contract that Josh is probably going to get. If it were up to me, I think I’d try and trade him for a really good draft pick or two.

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
8:55 pm

Big Ray, after spending a few years with Tim Duncan, I’m sure that Ferry’s first intentions were to appease Josh Smith, because there was no other reason to trade Joe or Marvin other than to make sour face happy (and I’m sure Josh reminds Ferry of Duncan). :twisted:

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
8:55 pm

All Get Real would probably be gone Rob..

All would look good going South..

Eric

July 2nd, 2012
8:55 pm

Nice job Atlanta Spirit for giving someone else the keys for once. We all know JJ was overpaid when they let the other guy throw him a max deal. Josh Smith should have been the Hawks all-star player. And Marvin Williams I liked him in the beginning then showed us nothing, shouldv’e been gone honestly. We have Teague, J. Smoove, and Horford How bout a dependable and quality Center please!…

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

BILL LAIMBEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hawks21

July 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

I don’t understand people want to get rid of JJ. They stated that he disappeared in BIG games! He was overpaid! Exten contracts to Josh and Ivan. Then sign a couple of mid-level FA. Good job Danny, I see the light at the end of the tunnel!!

Jason S

July 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

So what is the financial situation looking like for this year? Are the Hawks around $55/56 million with 12 under contract? Is this estimation about right?

Chris

July 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

NICOLAS BATUM………UH OH

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
8:57 pm

Hey slim, it’s too glad a day to be disingenuous. No blogger here has claimed that Gasol played “lock down defense” now have they? Why darken a good day with that kind of straw man crap?

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
8:58 pm

“Combined with the Johnson trade, Atlanta is sending out more than $105 million in long-term salary with Monday’s two deals and taking back just $23.5 million, as Harris is entering the final year of his contract at $8.5 million.” -ESPN

Man, Danny Ferry is a genius….

crawdiddy72

July 2nd, 2012
8:59 pm

horford 2 first round picks stevenson devin harris petro willliams to orlando for d howard . morrow and famar will stay. go out and get tyree evans fro sacramento. teague evans morrow smith d howard

Big Ray

July 2nd, 2012
8:59 pm

Astro Joe ,

I knew I could count on you to take the ball and run with it, LOL…..I laughed as soon as I saw the article, and I just know some folks will eat that all up.

W. R. Terrell

July 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

You gotta have a good foundation in order to build a sturdy house. I think the markings are set and the cement is about to be poured. The playoffs may not be in our future next year, that does not bother me. I see the playoffs in our future and not out in round one. The air smells good, fresh and clean. This is a great day for HAWKS basketball.

darrell starks

July 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

Lebron, D wade, Chris

ALL WILL MAKE 17MILL THIS SEASON COMING UP.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lacsho

July 2nd, 2012
9:01 pm

I don’t hold grudges with the ASG, however; I won’t forget the insanity they displayed in the past. We’re all human, as long as your alive; you live and learn. Holding grudges is a waste of time, wow counseling has been good lol.

Atlanta Spiritless

July 2nd, 2012
9:01 pm

Get ready for the re-building to begin. Like the moves, but maybe in another 6-7 years we might contend. I’ll re-new my season tickets then.

northcyde

July 2nd, 2012
9:02 pm

As for the Marvin for Harris trade, that was impressive. Can’t evcen hate on that. Now we need a SF, unless the plan is to play Josh there.

LOL . . and now we’re the supposed frontrunner for Dwight?

Lets see what Ferry does next.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:02 pm

Astro,

I hope you don’t have a nervous break down now that it appears that Josh is happy and may resign along with the possibility of signing his child hood buddy Dwight…

Will you turn into Anakin Joe since you were against having those two guys on the roster in the past?

Devil's Advocate

July 2nd, 2012
9:02 pm

The Thrashers got put out of town because the Thrashers have a weak fanbase as far as $$$ goes. Money talks and BS walks. If the Thrashers were the more financially sound franchise they’d be here today. One trip to the playoffs then swept into mediocrity.

random

July 2nd, 2012
9:05 pm

@EmirS.

They have no sf on payroll i think so they needed marvin, funny as that may sound.

glw

July 2nd, 2012
9:05 pm

@JHawk,

I feel what you are saying, but if the Nets are in the finals next spring with D12 and Johnson, its going to hard for Atlanta fan to see.

@JustJoe

Well time is running out on Orlando, I think their first choice would be to trade Howard to the Lakers and get Bynum back, but the Lakers not doing it unless Dwight is going to stay long term. In the end, Brooklyn can still come with a package of Lopez, Brooks, draft picks and some combo of Wallace, Green, or Humphries. Orlando will bleed them dry probably, because with those S&T deals they have to be simulatenous, so when it comes time next week for contract to be signed some agreement would have to be in place, or maybe they would have to wait to next summer, and try the same S&T as they would be capped out. But if Humphries, Wallace or Lopez flop out next year, and dont play to what they are being paid, then Orlando wouldnt take them back. I know it sounds complicated.

Erik

July 2nd, 2012
9:06 pm

I’ve thought about it a little more and I don’t think that Josh is the type of player Ferry wants. I think Ferry wants guys that are totally committed to the team concept and have very little ego (i.e. Horford). Josh is too busy chucking long jumpers, pretending to play point guard, complaining to refs, and asking for trades to fit into that mold. It would take a HUGE personality change to fit Josh into what Ferry wants. Look at what San Antonio has built. Look at the type of players they have. THAT is what Ferry wants.

And for those of you that think Ferry wants Howard…you’re way, WAY off. I don’t think he’d touch him with a 10 foot pole. Not only is he not the right fit mentally but he’s also going to cost a TON of money.

kbatuc

July 2nd, 2012
9:08 pm

Probably a good move, although I don’t think we should completely start over here. Hopefully we have the money now to do something significant. Let’s build on what we already have with Horford and Josh, and developing in Teague and Zaza. Harris will be a good addition. The rest are trade fodder. I went to the Nets game last year and the guys we got from them are not going to help. Despite all the bitching going on here, the past five years have been exciting and its been good to be in the playoffs again, so good luck Joe and Marvin who helped get us back in the playoffs. There were many great games that I’ll always remember. Go Hawks!

Reality Check

July 2nd, 2012
9:08 pm

“I hope you don’t have a nervous break down now that it appears that Josh is happy and may resign along with the possibility of signing his child hood buddy Dwight…”

Melvin, you shouldn’t get your hopes up just yet. All Josh supposedly tweeted was that “Ferry changed the perception of the organization in one day”. That’s quite a leap from there to re-signing. What if he had the chance to go to say NYK? Can you guarantee that he would stay?

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:11 pm

I wonder if the Magic would like a Nets package of Wallace, Lopez, Brooks and/or other pieces for Dwight vs what the Hawks could put together?

Brian

July 2nd, 2012
9:12 pm

Steps in the right direction…….

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
9:12 pm

Lang Greene reporting Josh now recruiting Dwight to come to Atlanta.

mountain_jim

July 2nd, 2012
9:16 pm

I bet Ferry watched how badly LD got outcoached by Doc in that series and will be upgrading at coach next year if not sooner.

the truth

July 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

Good trade. Hawks go from a 3 or 4 with a first round playoff loss to a possible 8 seed with a first round playoff loss or lottery pick with money available and an extra draft pick. No one is going to challenge Miami or Oklahoma right now so might as well build for 5 years from now.

Ctrim

July 2nd, 2012
9:18 pm

Wish Joe and Marvin the best of luck moving forward. Can’t blame either one of them for signing their contracts. Congrats Ferry for cleaning up the mess. We have a lot of holes but plenty of time to fill out our roster thru either free agency or more trades.

Tommy

July 2nd, 2012
9:19 pm

Farmar just got bought out.

Danny Ferry for Mayor of ATL

July 2nd, 2012
9:20 pm

Danny Ferry is DA MAN!!!! That’s better news than the Saints Bounty case.

Tommy

July 2nd, 2012
9:21 pm

David Aldridge‏@daldridgetnt

Subtract another $1.5M RT @NetsDaily Hearing Farmar will be bought out for $1.5M as soon as deal is done. He preferred buyout to opt-out.

David Aldridge‏@daldridgetnt

Correction: Hawks save $2.75 million if they buy out Jordan Farmar for $1.5M. His deal for this season was $4.25M.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:21 pm

Reality Check,

Knicks will be over the salary cap for at least the next 5 years. Even if Josh wants to go to NYK, he would have to work with the Hawks in a sign and trade. No leverage for Josh in that scenario…

The Monger

July 2nd, 2012
9:21 pm

Greatest move in Hawks history!!! Ferry should win GM of the year!!! I cant believe this I am so happy Ferry got rid of Joe “No heart, no champion attitude, no leadership” Johnson!!! And he got rid of Marvin IN THE SAME DAY!!! He automatically wins GM of the year, and is my new best friend!! Bravo!!! The Hawks just got rid of $155 million dollars worth of mistakes in less than 24 hours. I really think I am going to like Ferry for years to come!!

Tommy

July 2nd, 2012
9:22 pm

Total Hawks savings thus far (yes, I’m assuming Marvin Williams wouldn’t leave $7.5M on the table next year): a little more than $96M.

The Monger

July 2nd, 2012
9:22 pm

I BOW TO YOU FERRY!!! Danny Ferry for president!!! I am wiping off the tears of joy, like a bride on her wedding day! I never thought this day would come….OH PRAISE THE FERRY!!!!!

PaulieOldschool

July 2nd, 2012
9:22 pm

Thank you, Jesus! Thank you, Lord! Thank you, Danny Ferry!

kirkinga

July 2nd, 2012
9:24 pm

Getting rid of Marvin and Joe doesn’t really tell us much about Ferry’s basketball philosophy. Almost anyone taking over the team would want cap space. Even casual basketball fans knew that cap space > Johnson’s contribution.

What Ferry does with Josh and/or Al will tell us more about how he will construct the team than what he did today.

Mr.E

July 2nd, 2012
9:24 pm

I’m beginning to think Ferry was a former blogger here.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
9:25 pm

If my math is right, the Joe Johnson trade should create a $4M trade exception. Hawks could use that to target a SF on an expiring deal like Corey Brewer in Denver. He’s not a shooter, but he is a “team first guy” that plays hard. Denver is loaded on the wings and could actually use a roster spot if they plan on bringing over their draft pick Evan Fournier.

Reality Check

July 2nd, 2012
9:25 pm

Melvin,

If the NYK were to move Amare, Josh could take his place. If Joe can be traded, so can Amare.

jhan

July 2nd, 2012
9:26 pm

SlimJr – looks like two offensive fouls to me.
I’m guessing CP3 or D12 is an option – doubt if both happen.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:26 pm

Even if the Hawks dont get Dwight, they will still have enough money to offer big contracts to Bynum or CP3 next summer.

I also remember reading an article during the playoffs that Bynum worksout in ATL in the summer and may own a house there….. Hmmmm

BILLY KNIGHT

July 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm

MISS ME NOW???????????????????

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm

“What Ferry does with Josh and/or Al will tell us more about how he will construct the team than what he did today.” – kirkinga

Co-sign Kirk. Welcome back.

Brian Kim

July 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm

the best Hawks news since the signing of Dominique.

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
9:34 pm

Also welcome back old-timers mykhalc, jhan, and lacsho. Good to see you guys in the room. You too, Big Ray, though you’ve lurked some lately..

Now where are MannyT and HB Ando?

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
9:34 pm

Melvin, I missed the Ferry quote where he mentioned some long-term love for Josh. Can you post that link for me? Don’t get too comfortable. Here’s hoping that Josh is thinking to himself, “it looks like this guy is doing what it takes to build a winner, if I want to stick around, I better stay on my meds”.

G Man

July 2nd, 2012
9:35 pm

Danny Ferry is the man. i’ve been away for the last 3 years because there is no way JJ should have gotten that max contract then. I am amazed that DFerry could get rid of the two impediments to long term Hawks success just like that. Job well done already. Ladies and Gentlemen, it is all about summer 2013. Can’t wait for it to arrive. Draft picks and money to play with for a couple of free agents. Let’s Go Hawks!!!

kirkinga

July 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

@Sautee, thanks, but I never left. I just got bored with covering the same ground over and over. Now we have fresh territory ahead though some are still defending/finding excuses for the same stuff.

I still contend that Game 2 against Boston was a watershed moment for this team.

The Monger

July 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

My only problem and its very minor, is I wish Ferry (if at all possible) would have taken less expiring contracts. I mean thats 5 guys we are stuck with this year, so we will have to make out our bench with guys like Petro, Farmar, Morrow, Stevenson, and Williams. None of these guys are quality bench players, although Farmar is not bad from time to time. I just wish we could have got this deal done with only 2 or 3 of these guys. Although, since I imagine these 5 are not getting paid that much (maybe Stevenson is), I suppose Ferry could still choose to waive these bums, and sign different minimum level veterans to make up our bench…similar to last year (T-Mac, Vlad, Willie G), and sign them all to one year deals. Than next year we start clean from all 5 of the ex-Nets and this years bench, and we can truly start from scratch with just Horford, Teague, ZaZa, the 2 rookies, and maybe Josh. Still though….brilliant first week for FERRY!!!

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

Reality Check,

It’s impossible to know what the Knicks salary cap would look like next season b/c they are planning to resign Lin and Novak this season. Right now, the Knicks have 57mil in committed salaries in 2014 (including Amare). Even if you clear Amare 20mil, I doubt if they would have enough space under the cap to sign Josh.

Heisenberg

July 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

Joe Johnson’s contract and Marvin Williams in the same day! Danny Ferry is already front runner for exec of the year award. Earlier I theorized the plan would be to move Josh next and it still appears to be the logical path, but I can see the longer shot of dealing Al to Orlando for Howard, then trying to sign both to an extension. That would put butts in the seats.

Ben

July 2nd, 2012
9:37 pm

Gotta give credit to the ASG for finally stepping up and getting a good GM in here and apparently willing to spend whatever it takes

St Louis issa callin...

July 2nd, 2012
9:39 pm

Damn….there issa team out there dumber than ours….the Brooklyn Nets…..omg.

sam

July 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

Great job getting rid of Joe. A really good player, but obviously NOT A LEADER, much less a superstar.
Now let’s concentrate on the REAL leader of this team, whether he is considered a superstar or not – JOSH SMITH. He fits every adjective Ferry says he wants in a player. He is NOT disgruntled – he simply wants to win. He gives 100% all the time and has improved every facet of his game. AND, most of all, he is a LEADER. When LD spoke after the Boston loss, the only player he singled out was Josh – that he gave everything he had all season and never complained, even when playing hurt. Please, everyone, learn to appreciate his many, many attributes and see what he, Al and Jeff can do. I think alot of people will be surprised.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

Astro,

I don’t have the quote you are asking for nor do I think it exist. But I do remember reading a quote that said Ferry wanted to have a face to face sit down with Josh. I noticed he never mention having a sit down with Joe or Marvin before he traded their azz out of here….LOL

Big Mike

July 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

Sounds like a bunch of people are content about sucking this next year, just so they can potentially be better in the long term future. :rolls eyes:

Big Mike

July 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

Big Mike

July 2nd, 2012
9:41 pm

Jason

July 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm

I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way. The biggest thing about these players is that they have EXPIRING CONTRACTS. Which means after next season they’ll be off the books and free up cap space to sign a key free agent. Yeah, we might not be that great next year, but if not then we might get a lottery pick and still have Smoove, Horford, and Teague to build around. This is a sign that ownership is taking steps to build a contender. You’ve gotta like that.

Heisenberg

July 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm

And with all those expiring contracts, could have enough to add Chris Paul next summer. A core of Howard, Smith & Paul would certainly see to it Miami falls short of 8 titles by 7.

The Monger

July 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm

Forgot to include Devin Harris!! That is a good find, Ferry pulled out a straight steal…getting a quality scorer and passer like Devin Harris for Marvin Williams. That is almost a robbery….

2012 starting to look pretty good already with Teague, Jenkins, and Harris in the backcourt. And ZaZa, Horford, Mike Scott, and J-Smoove down low. Plus more capspace than we’ve had in years. If we do this thing right, and take it step by step, I really think these Hawks wont even have a single down year, and we can just keep building into an elite team. I think we are only 2 pieces away with the roster we have right now. We need another elite scorer at SF…like a Andre Igoudala, and a defensive, aggressive type C in the Joakim Noah type mold. Thats it and we are hanging with Miami and Chicago at the top!!!

jay

July 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm

Kudos to Danny Ferry for dumping two bums that should have been gone no less than two seasons ago!

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
9:43 pm

Melvin, he doesn’t need to sit down with Josh. 364 days and counting. Dude doesn’t need to lift a finger and poof.. he’s gone. The same was not true for Joe or Marvin. My guess, Josh is on secret double probabtion. Another technical foul while sitting at the scorer’s table and Josh gets moved for another 17 guards. Jacque Vaughan and Sherman DOuglass are still out there, waiting to be acquired by Ferry.

Joel Henderson

July 2nd, 2012
9:44 pm

Losing joe for this season will hurt but he is the highest paid player in NBA!! For another four years!! We have enough cap room to sign Howard and Paul … Could keep Josh smith and if we suck bad enough get a nice high lottery pick to go with them. If we keep Joe we got no chance. We couldn’t win last few seasons so we keep doing the same thing. They say it’s crazy doing the same thing over and over thinking you’ll get a different result. We hit out ceiling with that group now we need a new group so if it means one season of hurt that’s fine with me. We got to work out how to get past Miami. They are the benchmark now

Heisenberg

July 2nd, 2012
9:45 pm

Howard probably has not had Atlanta on his radar because he knew the salary cap situation. These moves should change that.

mock1

July 2nd, 2012
9:46 pm

Praise the Lord!!! We have finally been sent a GM that actually make moves that makes common sense!! Joe & Marvin in the same day!!! Imma drink 2 that!!! :) )

SSG Desert Dawg

July 2nd, 2012
9:46 pm

If we get Devin Harris, does that mean that Jeff Teague is the next to go? I doubt Farmar will last long with the expiring contract…

kirkinga

July 2nd, 2012
9:48 pm

Sounds like a bunch of people are content about sucking this next year, just so they can potentially be better in the long term future. :rolls eyes:

Here is a fundamental divide amongst Hawks fans. Some want the illusion of making it to the playoffs and getting blown out. The rest want to make it to the playoffs and watch the team play hard for 4 quarters. There were 15 other teams that made it to the playoffs without Marvin and Joe on their team and the Hawks can do it too.

MattP

July 2nd, 2012
9:48 pm

SSG Desert Dawg,

Teague might be a trade piece to go along with Smith or Horford.

Danny Ferry's JOCKSTRAP

July 2nd, 2012
9:49 pm

Here hold this!

another comment

July 2nd, 2012
9:49 pm

I really hate to see Marvin Williams Jr. leave. I had the pleasure to live accross the street from him last year. He is a fine young man. He lives way below his means. He does not travel with a Posse, just his Cousin Juan. Both of them were very nice to the kids in the neighborhood. My daughter appreciated the large purchase of Thin Mint Girl Scout cookies. He also, made a large sponsorship of my neighbor’s son in the school lap run a thon.

Marvin along with his cousin Juan will be missed by all of his neighbors.

He was not a thug like Jamal Crawford who let his Pit bulls tear up a house he rented, then sued the owner.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
9:50 pm

PG: Deron
SG: JJ
SF: Wallace
PF: Humphries
C: Lopez

Not bad team on paper. They should be competing for spots 5-8 in the East (imo).

JJ,

Thanks for all your hard work. At least now you’ll play for an owner who has boatloads of money, play with a top 5 PG, and you should have an improvement at HC. Plus you’ll get unlimited VIP access to 40/40

Shadrian Washington

July 2nd, 2012
9:50 pm

Marvin Williams was almost traded today to Utah for Devin Harris..Gud job Danny Ferry

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
9:50 pm

Nope Teague probably won’t be gone, but with Devin Harris that’s extreme insurance in the case Teague goes down with an injury we just got that much better. At least at the PG position that’s three guards

Devin Harris Farmar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kirk Hinrich and Pargo.

atllantaradiosucks

July 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm

in a week Ferry has done what Sund/Knight/ASG couldn’t do in years. JJ is a GOOD player–FAR from a $120 million star. Marvin– nice guy, not a guy you win with at all. Hawks may only win 30 games next season, but they are in WAAAY better shape now than they were hours ago. I hate Duke, but Ferry is officially worth rooting for.

D.S.G.B.

July 2nd, 2012
9:52 pm

Great job, Mr. Ferry. i really like the flexibility that you have provided the franchise. im excited to see what you have in store for the rest of the offseason! Pairing dwight with josh would really be something! i hope you can do it. Best of wishes to you Mr. Ferry!

Cedric

July 2nd, 2012
9:52 pm

Hopefully Josh and Al can recruit some star level talent to play here, if not we will suck for years to come.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
9:52 pm

Melvin, he doesn’t need to sit down with Josh- Astro

RIGHT but you do know the quote I’m referring to. And Ferry made it a point to mention he’s going to sit down with Josh…. I posted on the last blog that Josh options may be limited in Free Agency. Nets, Knicks, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Lakers and Clippers will not have cap space to sign him. So he may have to work with the Hawks in S&T deal if he wants to go to one of his preferred destination… Hawks may not be left at the altar like some may think….

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
9:53 pm

Not only that there is something big here a well known GM told Adrian Wojnarowski

THAT IF HE HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN Al HORFORD OR BYNUM HE WOULD PICK AL HORFORD WHY BECAUSE HORFORD WOULD PLAY EVERY NIGHT.

KEEP HORFORD FERRY

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
9:53 pm

“What happened to the Nets first round pick? Some say we got one and others that we did not.”

They got the Rockets’ first round pick which the Nets owned due to a prior trade. That pick is lottery protected from 2013-2015, and if it is in the lottery each of those years, it becomes a second-round pick in 2016.

So basically, Houston has to make the playoffs at some point in the next three years for the Hawks to get that pick.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
9:55 pm

“If we get Devin Harris, does that mean that Jeff Teague is the next to go? I doubt Farmar will last long with the expiring contract…”

Farmar has been bought out. Harris will likely start the season as a backup, and if all goes well, will probably finish the season on someone else’s roster after being traded for a pick.

hawksfancents95

July 2nd, 2012
9:55 pm

trade
devin harris for kevin martin
devin harris for richard jefferson and a 1st from GSW
devin harris for luol deng
devin harris for tayshaun prince
devin harris for tyrus thomas and CHAR 1st pick(#1 only protected)

Happy Camper

July 2nd, 2012
9:56 pm

The best thing about trading JJ is the Hawks no longer have a #2 paid like a #1. Second, Joe had no passion or fire when it was really needed. Third, Joe performed his most mediocre during the playoffs. Forth, Joe’s salary had the team stuck in the Mud. If he played with more passion and drive I don’t think folks would have banged him about the salary, but he did not give a sh*t anyway. He will be better where he is not depended on to be the best player on the team.

The Monger

July 2nd, 2012
9:56 pm

The more I look at these players we got— Devin Harris, Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar… these guys can straight up SHOOT!!! I mean these are all 10-15 a game scorers throughout there careers, with really high FG percentages, and 3point percentages. We just got Jenkins, the best shooter in the college game, and now we add Morrow who according to wikipedia is described as “one of the best pure shooters in the NBA” and who has shot over 40 percent from 3 every season…these are some good players. Farmer and Harris are both amazing shooters as well, and all 3 of them Farmar, Harris, and Morrow are 90 percent free throw shooters. I just have a feeling with the great post defense we have with Al, Josh, and ZaZa…we are becoming the Spurs. How amazing would it be to see our guys like Teague, Jenkins, and Al turn into Tony Parker, Ginobli, and Duncan in their primes. I am REALLY excited for the season to start to say the least…

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
9:57 pm

Something tells me though that we don’t have to worry about Josh Smith leaving like most people think. Quite honestly I think after these moves his spirits are a bit lifted cause for awhile we didn’t have much help.

I agree with these 6 players we aren’t world beaters, but now we got chances to grab certain free agents next year or even this summer the offseason ain’t over yet.

I really really can’t express how good the Devin Harris pick up is seriously I can’t.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm

“Getting rid of Marvin and Joe doesn’t really tell us much about Ferry’s basketball philosophy. Almost anyone taking over the team would want cap space. Even casual basketball fans knew that cap space > Johnson’s contribution.

What Ferry does with Josh and/or Al will tell us more about how he will construct the team than what he did today.”

Co-sign. But getting rid of Joe and Marvin does tell us a lot about the DASG, specifically that its philosophy seems to have shifted from trying to maintain goodness at the expense of greatness to seriously trying to assemble a contender. And it tells us that Ferry is at least competent enough to find a way to move two contracts that many of us thought to be immovable.

shelly

July 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm

dont give ferry his props..he had to find a partner and without isaih thomas to rip off he found his old college teamate at duke, billy king, desperate & stupid..king has replaced isaih thomas as the worse GM in nba..remember this is the guy who just traded the 6th pick for gerald wallace and then overpaid him 4yrs/40M..no other team was going to pay wallace any thing close to that..with that contract king could’ve had wallace and that high draft pick..remember hawk fans ferry failed as a GM in other spots so dont get too excited..when things are bad for danny he can always rip off his friend billy king again billy king again

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm

Holy crap. I’ve not been this happy as a Hawks fan since……the 80’s?

hawksfan

July 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm

what are the chances we go for roy hibbert or any other decent center in the league…also what about oj mayo…those would be some quality pieces….morrow is a good shooter with experince…just need a good person for the 5 and 3 spot..lots of good players available for 3 spot.

Hawk-eye

July 2nd, 2012
10:00 pm

HALLELUJAH,A MIRACLE HAS BEEN PERFORMED………………. :-)

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
10:01 pm

The Hawks have thus quickly emerged as a potential destination for Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard, who grew up in the Atlanta area and is close friends with Hawks swingman Josh Smith. Howard is also close with Anthony Morrow, one of five players that the Hawks will acquire from the Brooklyn Nets in their pending trade with the Nets for Johnson.

The flurry of action, after years of restraint from the Hawks, has also made a fast impression on Smith, sources said. Smith had been vocal for months about wanting to be dealt, but sources told ESPN.com that the swingman is excited about the direction Ferry has taken things in his brief time in charge.

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
10:01 pm

I’d love to have Roy Hibbert but he just got a max offer plus Indy might match it to keep him.

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
10:01 pm

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
10:02 pm

“Another technical foul while sitting at the scorer’s table and Josh gets moved for another 17 guards. Jacque Vaughan and Sherman DOuglass are still out there, waiting to be acquired by Ferry.” – Astro Joe

Funniest ish that’s been posted on this blog in a while. Literally LOL’d.

Danny Ferry

July 2nd, 2012
10:02 pm

I got this folks!

kirkinga

July 2nd, 2012
10:04 pm

This —>Ferry is at least competent enough to find a way to move two contracts that many of us thought to be immovable.

We can also say that he can make a logical pick in the draft rather than reach for the “upside” guy or indulge some atypical fantasy about a team made up of all forwards.

Ray

July 2nd, 2012
10:05 pm

You know we just might lose Teague because apparently that will be part of Ferry’s plan to get Dwight Howard.

And CP3 wanted to play in ATL????

Timothy

July 2nd, 2012
10:05 pm

I really must say Danny Ferry is already my pick for GM of the year. Both these moves are total genius! In the short term the Hawks may flounder a bit this season, but let’s face it…we weren’t going to win the title with the same core anyway.
With these 2 moves we will be almost 30 million under the cap this summer! That’s enough to bring in Dwight AND another difference maker (even if not another max player)
In a best case scenario we could be looking at a core consisting of Dwight, Josh Smith, Al Horford and Chris Paul….that’s a group of guys I can see being a championship threat for a lot of years.
Loving Danny Ferry’s hiring so far! Keep up the great work!

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
10:06 pm

now the DASG can afford to eat LD’s contract and go get a real coach!!! get ‘er done DF!!!

boxxiethebull

July 2nd, 2012
10:08 pm

thankyouthankyouthankyou……now lets go get d12….howard horford smith frontcourt is nasty…ivan and zaza rotation backing them up is naste….teague needs help… and what about chris paul or steve nash…

bigdave

July 2nd, 2012
10:09 pm

RicBucher
That didn’t take long: now being told not to count out DH still making his way to the Nets. So list now is: 1.(Nets) Mavs.

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
10:09 pm

myk,

You’d think that as little as LD makes, they could kick him upstairs as a consultant. At least he’d have a job, and we could get a real coach.

boxxiethebull

July 2nd, 2012
10:09 pm

i love danny ferry….i would have his baby, but im a guy…..

The Monger

July 2nd, 2012
10:10 pm

“Sounds like a bunch of people are content about sucking this next year, just so they can potentially be better in the long term future. :rolls eyes:”

Why does trading 2 underachieving, overpaid players…who showed no heart, had poor attitudes, were extremely streaky, and had loser mentalities, make us a bad team? We cleared TONS AND TONS of cap room, and we got talent back in this deal… I think with this team, as composed now, we have a great shot at becoming elite, and Ferry is going to make a big name signing (or 2) before its all said and done…

right now THIS SEASON we have a playoff team around the caliber of last year, and Ferry got rid of 155 million dollars worth of mistakes….how are you not getting this. We have ZERO really bad contracts now thanks to Ferry. We have tens of millions in cap space AND a playoff caliber roster within ONE WEEK of Ferry taking over. Our roster right now looks like….

PG- Jeff Teague, Devin Harris
SG- John Jenkins, Anthony Morrow
SF- ? (FA signing), Deshawn Stevenson
PF- Josh Smith, Mike Scott, Jordan Williams
C- Al Horford, ZaZa Pachulia, Johan Petro

And believe me, he will add a starting SF this year via trade or free agency…and my belief is it will be a Andre Igoudala type player… That right there, with Teague running the point, and Jenkins shooting, Al, Josh, and ZaZa on the glass with a slashing, scoring SF is a playoff team. Then the beauty of it, if you dont like this bench…all 5 contracts expire next year, and so does Josh’s…so if you dont like the team, you just start over with Teague, Al, Jenkins, ZaZa, Scott, Harris and a bunch of money….BEAUTIFUL!!!

kirkinga

July 2nd, 2012
10:11 pm

I don’t wish to pour it on when it comes to Josh, but his game and Howard’s game do not match well. I see even more outside shots for Josh should he become the primary outside option to Howard’s post work. Even worse, I see him sulking if he isn’t the primary outside option!

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
10:11 pm

RT @TheBigLead: @ESPNSteinLine why would they keep Smith? Going w/ Smith/Horford/Howard is like Melo/Amare/Chandler (DWIGHT LOVES JOSH)
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/219941575688601602

Black Mamba

July 2nd, 2012
10:12 pm

We need to sign Ilyasova!!!!!

Mike

July 2nd, 2012
10:12 pm

Don’t like the Johnson deal at all. Yes he was overpaid, but we got nothing in return except the ability to waste the money in another year on an unknown quantity which, combined with the real possibility of losing Josh Smith too will leave us a perennial lottery team. Only way this deal makes any sense is if Josh Smith has already agreed to stay which is doubtful unless Dwight Howard is coming which is not only doubtful, but a poor idea anyway because (1) he is a definate head case and (2) he has potential back issues.

Bottom line is that it would have been better to keep the big four together for one more year and give it a big shot at going all the way. I don’t buy the fact that this team lacked the talent to get by Boston anfd Philadelphia. What they lacked was health missing Smith, Horford and Pachulia during key times in the playoffs. With them healthy, there is no way they lose to Boston or Philly and they have a shot at the Bosh deprived Heat.

Shedding salary is of no value if you can replace it with more talent. So losing Johnson and Smith in back to back (or even this year) is a huge minus that I don’t see us recovering from for years. Ask Danny Ferry how good Cleveland was once they couldn’t resign LeBron.

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
10:13 pm

yo Sautee…anythin’ to get him outta that seat!!!LOL and i tell you what, when Morrow was at GS he freakin’ lit it up…cat can flat-out shoot!!!

Bama Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
10:14 pm

Drafting John Jenkings Doesnt look so bad now?

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
10:14 pm

“Ask Danny Ferry how good Cleveland was once they couldn’t resign LeBron.”

Ferry left BEFORE “the Decision”.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
10:15 pm

Sautee,

I havent looked it up, but there was a player that was traded twice in the same off-season not long ago. I’ll see if I can find it.

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
10:16 pm

myk,

Yeah, we got a couple of true shooters. Let’s see how they work out. But no more sitting still.

Vick Supporter

July 2nd, 2012
10:17 pm

Why trade for Howard when we know he will leave. He’ll be here cryin around like he is now. We need to get a SUPERSTAR in the draft. Period.

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
10:17 pm

People usually do better after leaving Cleveland…..see Bill Belichick and LeBron James.

Sautee

July 2nd, 2012
10:18 pm

O’B,

Thanks. I just don’t think Ferry is finished yet, and I’m thinking he’ll acquire a SF. Fun to watch it all play out.

heat check

July 2nd, 2012
10:18 pm

Danny “General Sherman” Ferry……..

heat check

July 2nd, 2012
10:19 pm

Setting Atlanta on fire……in a good way this time.

ThatBengaliGuy

July 2nd, 2012
10:19 pm

DF for PRESIDENT!!!

Mike

July 2nd, 2012
10:21 pm

The point isn’t that LeBron left first –it was that he didn’t stay because Ferry couldn’t surround him with enough talent and therefore Cleveland imploded. Here we had talent–the proper course is get us an acusition to put us over the top not start “over” with our two best players gone–though getting rid of Williams is a deinite plus.

mykhalc

July 2nd, 2012
10:21 pm

status quo…outta here!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
10:21 pm

I’m in love with Danny. But drmaryb is a complete moron.

ayt

July 2nd, 2012
10:22 pm

though i like the trade i hate the fact we aren’t going to the playoffs next year…

Mike

July 2nd, 2012
10:22 pm

DANNY FERRY YOU ARE A HERO TO THE CITY OF ATLANTA.

ezzy

July 2nd, 2012
10:22 pm

when i heard this i was like hell yea… now marvin out to unbielievable…… sign these guys n cut them nxt year for HOWARD.. CAN U SAY BIG 3… HOWARD,HORFORD,SMITH,DEVIN HARRIS…BIG 4

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
10:23 pm

“I’m just watching all of this from work. People are glad that the Hawks are about to be dismantled, like they’re watching the Berlin Wall fall down or something.” northcyde

“Northcyde is on suicide watch.” – Rod from C.P.

Ya’ll got me bout to cry I’m laughing so hard.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
10:23 pm

How in the world do you trade a nice expiring contract for THREE years of Marvin (3rd year is player option)??????? Just plain dumb

Roger

July 2nd, 2012
10:24 pm

Why are we keeping that walk up the floor, terrible shooting josh smith? If he coudnt dunk he wouldnt even be in the NBA! We will never win anything with him here Mr ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He should be an official he cry s so much!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

July 2nd, 2012
10:24 pm

Joe trade kinda sucks IF we do not land a bigtime player via trade.

kwooden

July 2nd, 2012
10:27 pm

This trade is only a success if Josh stays and Dwight comes PERIOD. Otherwise we’re one year and one more bad trade way from become Charlotte!! We don’t want to be Charlotte!

I’m fine with the Marvin trade.

ThatBengaliGuy

July 2nd, 2012
10:29 pm

I say we trade for Deng. Bulls need cap flexibility and could use some of our one year contracts, especially a shooter like morrow.

Vick Supporter

July 2nd, 2012
10:29 pm

Thank GOD Marvin is GONE. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hawks Fan Down Under

July 2nd, 2012
10:29 pm

JJ was a great player but not a great team player. He called out his teammates in the media without naming them or accepting any responsability himself. Very poor form. Glad he is gone.

kwooden

July 2nd, 2012
10:30 pm

Grand, I totally agree, give Ferry props for getting that done!!!!

ThatBengaliGuy

July 2nd, 2012
10:33 pm

Can someone help me out with this…How the HELL did DF get Utah to take Marvin, better yet why in the world does Utah even want Marvin?

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 2nd, 2012
10:33 pm

Wow it feels like a family reunion on this board….Good to see everybody.
Dont want to ruine the party but cap space means nothing if we cant the big names to come here.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
10:35 pm

Even John Hollinger has some nice things to say about the Hawks. (insider)

That 10:21 post obviously wasn’t me.

Rob

July 2nd, 2012
10:35 pm

I believe they will come now. Cap space, new culture, and Magic City will bring top free agents to the A. Dwight and Joe Harden next summer.

Bama Hawk

July 2nd, 2012
10:35 pm

Rudy Rudy Rudy Rudy Gay For SF

Ra'mon

July 2nd, 2012
10:36 pm

There’s no way you get Deng without taking back Boozer.

Double Dribble

July 2nd, 2012
10:37 pm

Some of you guys don’t get it. We’re getting out of two horrible contracts, not 3 and 5 years from now…but THIS SEASON! This means we have legitmate money to spend next offseason. I’m not saying we’ll get Supes or CP3, but we can at least get in the conversation. Joe was one of my favorite Hawks, but he wasn’t worth what he ws paid. We had to get out of that contract to be able to compete for FAs. Williams was a mistake to begin with. Great guy, but not worth the pick or getting resigned. Ferry was a genious to trade both of these guys, one with an albatross contract and the other known to be on the way out of here for 3 years. We weren’t going for quality. We were going for short contracts.

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
10:38 pm

• Josh Smith is from Atlanta.

• Dwight Howard is from Atlanta.

• Dwight Howard and Josh Smith played together in high school and remain friends; in fact Howard was the best man in Smith’s wedding.

• Chris Paul is not from Atlanta, but is from North Carolina and wanted to play in Atlanta coming out of college.

Vick Supporter

July 2nd, 2012
10:38 pm

HELL NO to Boozer

Jaded Hawks Fan

July 2nd, 2012
10:38 pm

A potential Dwight-Smoove duo in the frontcourt is tantalizing to say the least. And it sounds like it could be a real possibility. The Hawks now have the assests (expiring contract and cap space) to get Dwight, and they also have a trump card in Smoove, who seems to be re-energized by Ferry’s moves. Additionally, Dwight’s preferred destination is now out of play.

I don’t care that Dwight is a headcase. He’s a headcase who’s taken a team to the Finals. That’s two rounds further than the Hawks have ever been. And he’s never had a running mate as good as Smoove.

I’ve never allowed myself to dream as a Hawks fan. I’m allowing myself to dream tonight.

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
10:39 pm

Utah wanted Marvin because the only guys on the roster to play SF were Millsap (PF) and Hayward (SG). They also had four PG’s on their roster, and in the playoffs they shot 20% from 3 while attempting just over 11 per game. The regular season wasn’t much better where they shot 32% attempting 12 per game.

Jaded Hawks Fan

July 2nd, 2012
10:40 pm

Assets*
Expiring contracts*

Too excited to spell check.

Neki

July 2nd, 2012
10:40 pm

I got money tomorrow DF is going to be asking about D12 from Orlando. Josh, Get to work, you got couple of people to recruit.

Kane337

July 2nd, 2012
10:42 pm

Per ESPN…The most obvious way is to wait until 2013. Atlanta can sign Paul and Howard to max contracts next summer, re-sign Smith for roughly the same money he makes now (which would trump any other offer he’d likely get since the Hawks can give him a five-year deal), and likely juuuuuust squeeze in under the current cap.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
10:43 pm

This Shaun Powell guy (of the NBA.com and ESPN NY) is going in on the Hawks….LOL

Shaun Powell
Final Hawks tweet (promise): ATL is home to two of the most outrageous contracts in league history, Koncak and Joe Johnson. But at least Johnson was a 5-time All-Star.
31 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
I think I just tweeted more about the Hawks in 10 minutes than I did all last season.
34 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Hawks spent millions from that draft mistake, when you add up contracts given to Mike Bibby, Speedy Claxton, failed picks and to extend Marvin.
35 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Has any franchise been hurt by a mistake more than the Hawks? When they passed on a chance to draft Deron Williams or Chris Paul, and took Marvin Williams instead, entire fan base was turned off.
36 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
There are more Knicks, Celtics, Bulls and Laker fans in Atlanta than Hawks fans. Or at least they’re louder.
38 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Hawks couldn’t sell out when they had Dominique Wilkins, one of most exciting players ever.
39 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Before I go full gush on Danny Ferry, I wanna see how he’s going to rebuild a winner first.
39 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
ATL should be popular with free agents because of weather and affordable homes and the clubs, of course. But’s not a great hoops town.
41 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Before I go full gush on Danny Ferry, I’d like to see what he’s gonna rebuild a winner first.
43 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
If Joe Johnson didn’t make so much money, nobody in Atlanta would want to see him go.
about an hour ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Always thought Danny Ferry got a bad rap in Cleveland. He made mistakes, but so does every GM, and his mistakes weren’t franchise-killing. Anyway, he’s off to a major start in the ATL.
about an hour ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Shaun Powell
Whenever the subject of Dwight Howard returning home someday to play for the Hawks was raised, Dwight (softly) shot down the idea. Since leaving the ATL outta high school, he’s never lived there in the off-season, never warmed to the idea of returning. For any reason.
about 2 hours ago – 930 referrals
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

ThatBengaliGuy

July 2nd, 2012
10:43 pm

I have a feeling…Marvins going to be a superstar in Utah. Look up Childress, Diaw, Crawford.

MR ATLANTA HAWK

July 2nd, 2012
10:44 pm

I really hate to see JOE go!!! But I am very excited it was him instead of my boi JOSH!!! I think we are heading in the right direction now…We can go after DH and thats all we will need to be a dominate team for yrs to come in the BEAST OF THE EAST conference!!! Sorry Marvin u just never developed into the player we needed u to be… Best of luck to Joe and Marvin!!! But ATL is on the way up!!!

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
10:44 pm

Lang Greene: According to sources, Josh Smith has turned into lead recruiter trying to convince Dwight Howard to consider playing in Atlanta long term. Twitter

Astro Joe

July 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm

I’m a little surprised they bought out Farmar as it seems like he would have been a good player to flip to another team. Oh well, the Guard Liquidation Sale has started. Can we attach a buyout contract on the second page of Stevenson’s S&T? He could break Gary Payton’s record for the shortest tenure in Hawks franchise history. I want neither Stevenson nor his beard on the squad next season.

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm

My bad Just Joe already posted it.

O'Brien

July 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm

From twitter;

The NBA: Where teams trade into the middle with teams who don’t want to be there anymore.

Good stuff.

Vchandler

July 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm

Ferry for Mayor, Governor, President and Grand Puba!

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
10:46 pm

“I’m a little surprised they bought out Farmar as it seems like he would have been a good player to flip to another team.”

I was looking forward to having Farmar to ensure that Pargo would not make the roster. But I guess you don’t need him with a point guard rotation of Harris and Teague.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
10:47 pm

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
9:12 pm

“Lang Greene reporting Josh now recruiting Dwight to come to Atlanta.”

Just Joe,

As I stated a few hours ago. The question is when will D12 arrive Home?

He is coming Home! Book it Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!

CSP

July 2nd, 2012
10:47 pm

I guess it’s official. Rick Sund may ride off into the sunset…

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
10:49 pm

Sorry for the news: Gasol is not coming to Atlanta..

Two escorts to the rim? No thanks…We’ve seen this B4……

bigdave

July 2nd, 2012
10:50 pm

Melvin I saw dudes tweets..

Tried to find a bio to maybe understand where all his hate came from

The Real cp

July 2nd, 2012
10:51 pm

Yea Astro I dont want Stevenson to play 1 game for the Hawks. Dude is absolutely terrible.

I forgot who asked but I think it was Q Richardson who got traded a few times in one summer.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
10:51 pm

Bill Laimbeer

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
10:51 pm

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
10:53 pm

Slimjr….WHEN and HOW on Dwight? Would you give up Horford and Teague? Harris as your starting PG? Only player signed for next year would be John Jenkins.

Melvin

July 2nd, 2012
10:54 pm

MC, reported that the Hawks tried to trade Marvin fore the past two seasons and Ferry did it within the 1st week on the job. My gosh, what does that say about 30+ yrs of experience that Sund has in the NBA. Put Sund on the plane with Marvin to Utah, please.

bigdave

July 2nd, 2012
10:55 pm

Sheridan continues to drive home the assertion that Dwight to bk is still on the table

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
10:55 pm

D12 will take the Hawks to the Finals..

Gasol? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

MR ATLANTA HAWK

July 2nd, 2012
10:56 pm

SO WHO THINKS WE WILL BE A BETTER TEAM NEXT YEAR? If we were to land HOWARD…WHO IS THE 5 TO START THE SEASON!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
10:57 pm

Melvin, Danny Ferry made Rick Sund with 32+ years experience in 1 hour look INCOMPETENT!

Double Dribble

July 2nd, 2012
11:00 pm

I know we all love ESPN and some of the stories they generate, but I do love the article throwing a little glimmer of what could be next offseason…Our Big 3 of CP3, Dwight and Josh. Could you image Philips packed to the rafters for that team? I sure could. The PG that badly wanted to play here out of college finally getting to do it teamed with the prodigal son and his best bud blocking shots and providing highlight slams every quarter. Can you say the Hawks would finally be relevant again? I know I can.

Yes, I know this probably won’t happen. But Ferry has at least put us in a place where we can dream…and there actually be a chance of it happening.

As much as I love Horford, if we could get this three together, then let’s get Dwight here now.

kuhndog

July 2nd, 2012
11:03 pm

I loved to hate Joe one of the best Hawks ever but you have to move on, this is a good deal if we can get DWH 12.Things in life change and you have to change with it it.Joe Johnson will for ever be a HAWK the heck with the rest of you all,I wish him the best and hope he does not play against us ever.GO HAWKS

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
11:03 pm

“If the Nets sign Williams to a max contract, they will have $50 million on the books for 2013-14 to just three players, Williams, Wallace and Johnson. Once they fill the roster, they will be over the cap, which is expected to land around $60 million or $61 million for 2013-14. That means Brooklyn will have no space to sign Howard (or Andrew Bynum, or any star player) in free agency.” – Zach Lowe, SI.com

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:04 pm

Just Joe, I would ship Teague and All Get Real out of here yesterday to bring D12 to Atlanta!

All’s game is not built for a Championship run..Sorry he aint the one Grasshopper…

O'brien

July 2nd, 2012
11:05 pm

Rumor is farmar will be bought out for $1.5 mil.

Asg letting ferry do what he wants. I like it

doc

July 2nd, 2012
11:06 pm

Shaun Powell
Hawks spent millions from that draft mistake, when you add up contracts given to Mike Bibby, Speedy Claxton, failed picks and to extend Marvin.
35 minutes ago
Appears in NBA Free Agency, Miami Heat

Been saying Bibby cost us the us mint for a long time. Speedy was at least covered by insurance.

Now where is that smart group of fans who predicted Danny wanted six years so he could sit back and watch for a year before making any moves, that status quo would lead the way as he gave them one more chance at the promised land.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:07 pm

“Asg letting ferry do what he wants. I like it”

Hey OB, maybe Gearon Jr will take a permanent vacation? LOL!

Slim

July 2nd, 2012
11:09 pm

Technically the hawks don’t have to keep any of the nets players, when the season begins there contract ends, note expiring contracts, great move by Danny, and the hawks and fans will benefit greatly from this.

Bertie

July 2nd, 2012
11:09 pm

DANNY FERRY IS MY HERO!!!!
Good bye Joe, I might be able now to watch a Hawks game without falling a sleep from you pounding that rock soooo much.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:10 pm

Captain Ferry is moving at warp speed? Ya think?

Scottie give him more power! Increase power output to 105%! Aye Captain!

Dwight-CP3-Smoove

July 2nd, 2012
11:10 pm

Time to go after Dwight Howard.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
11:12 pm

Come on guys, this is al Sunds work that he has been working on for months. This is just as much Sunday as the draft everyone said Sunday was really in charge of and why Ferry insisted the Sunday stick around as a consultant to sorta hold his hands. This has Sund’s signature all over it.

NOT!

Dwight-CP3-Smoove

July 2nd, 2012
11:13 pm

Horford, Harris, Zaza, picks to magic for dwight?

Just Joe

July 2nd, 2012
11:15 pm

Go get Corey Brewer for the SF position. $3.2M expiring contract. Denver doesn’t need him with Afflalo, Chandler, and Gallinari.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:16 pm

Slim

July 2nd, 2012
11:09 pm

“Technically the hawks don’t have to keep any of the nets players, when the season begins there contract ends, note expiring contracts, great move by Danny, and the hawks and fans will benefit greatly from this.”

In 1 hour Danny Ferry became the greatest GM in Hawks Franchise history..

And he is just getting started!!!!!!!! Well AAAAAAAAAright!

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
11:18 pm

“Sheridan continues to drive home the assertion that Dwight to bk is still on the table”

I refrained from posting his tweets because he is a notorious NY homer, as he established during the Summer of LeBron when he was constantly pushing the idea that LeBron wanted to go to the Knicks.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
11:19 pm

Auto correction sucks and has been turned off forever.

Sunday = Sund

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
11:20 pm

Also because that idea of his is being directly contradicted by everyone else commenting on the issue.

Basically it would take a massive change of heart by Orlando’s GM to consent to a Dwight-to-Nets trade at this point. The Magic have established that they don’t want what the Nets are offering.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 2nd, 2012
11:21 pm

If they traded Al and Teague for Dwight, would Steve Nash and Ray Allen be willing to sign here for a year as a bridge to pursuing CP3 next summer? Just something to think about…

EmirS.

July 2nd, 2012
11:21 pm

The Nets look like a 4th seed atm.

Williams
Johnson
Wallace
Humphries
Lopez

Brooks
Green
Taylor
Karaman

Yea they’ll need to add some more people to get a strong bench. But you are looking at a good Brooklyn Nets team. It’s a VERY balanced starting five. You get very good offense and very good defense. You have two very good ball handlers and two very good rebounders. And then you have Wallace who I see as the glue to hold that core together. Seeing as though he can basically defend, score, rebound, handles, and block.

I don’t think the Nets are getting enough credit for this. If everything falls into place..we are more then likely looking at a 4 to 5 seeded Nets team.

Ben

July 2nd, 2012
11:23 pm

Emir S. Are you kidding the Nets would have good defense with 2 white guys in Humphries and Lopez manning the frontcourt? LOL…every NBA team would score 200pts against those guys.

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
11:25 pm

Wow Shaun Powell hating on tha A:

Shaun Powell: Before I go full gush on Danny Ferry, I wanna see how he’s going to rebuild a winner first. about 1 hour ago

Shaun Powell: ATL should be popular with free agents because of weather and affordable homes and the clubs, of course. But’s not a great hoops town. about 1 hour ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zWhAYTwH

So the Hawks are no longer a winning team without Joe and Marvin?

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:27 pm

Shaun Powell needs to put the pipe down….

“Crack is Whack” the Great and never Late Whitney Houston

SteveW

July 2nd, 2012
11:27 pm

Hmmm – Not into buying out Farmar – but I guess with Teague and Harris, who needs Farmar?

Nets offering Lopez, Humphries, Brooks and multiple 1st picks for Dwight.

We offer Al, Teague, ZaZa and multiple 1st picks.

I wonder which is better?

SteveW

July 2nd, 2012
11:28 pm

Oops Nets are also offering Wallace in their package…

SteveW

July 2nd, 2012
11:30 pm

If we obtain Dwight, FA’s will follow.

And we will have a ton of cap space, with only Dwight making the max, and Smith probably a little under.

Ben

July 2nd, 2012
11:31 pm

Steve, what are you talking about? I haven’t seen the Nets making any offers for Dwight

Mim506

July 2nd, 2012
11:31 pm

Atlanta lost it’s chance of getting CP3 when he 1st entered the draft he wanted to come to ATL, but at the time the management (Excluding Dominique Wilkins he was the only one that saw CP3 for his talent) and it’s star players Josh Smith and Josh Childress said “NO”, but I guess everyone has forgotten that story that was written by AJC……CP3 needs to give ATL the duce sign and keep moving….

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:31 pm

All is a Two time Allstar and All NBA player highly respected by NBA coaches..Heck this blog is an Al Horford love fest! Heheheheh

Can’t say the same for any of the Net offerings above, Hmmmm

random

July 2nd, 2012
11:31 pm

@Ben

You sir are biased, and btw Brook Lopez isnt white.

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
11:32 pm

LOL @ Hollinger:

“With two landmark moves in a period of hours Monday that wiped nearly $90 million off the payroll, the Hawks went from a franchise that considered losing in the second round of the playoffs to be the pinnacle of human achievement to being one that could matter.”

According to Shamsports, after 2011-12 money fell off the books with the new fiscal year for the NBA, the Hawks will have about $174 million in future committed salaries on the books on July 10th. On July 11th, when the moratorium is lifted, and assuming today’s trades actually go through, the Hawks will wipe almost $90 million in future committed salaries off their books, going from about $174 million to about $85 million.

Blast

July 2nd, 2012
11:34 pm

Beautiful. You gotta love Ferry. Action oriented. Can’t believe he got rid of Joe’s contract! Then Marvin for Devin Harris!!! What was Utah smoking????

Great, great moves! And I know he is not done yet! Finally, a GM that wants to win a championship! Word is Josh is excited about the recent moves. We need to keep Josh Smith in the ATL, people!!!

DP

July 2nd, 2012
11:34 pm

What on earth is Brooklyn thinking? Dwight Howard wants to go there and they take on $90 million of contract on washed up ball stopper Joe Johnson? They may have just pushed Deron Williams to Dallas. Surely he’s got too much sense to stay in Brooklyn to play with Ballhog Johnson.

WHEN ARE THEY MOVING ?????

July 2nd, 2012
11:35 pm

WHY IS ferry NOT SCOUTING NEW LOCATIONS FOR THIS TEAM TO MOVE TO ?

THIS CITY IS TIRED OF THIS NOTHING HAPPENING STREET THASH TEAM !!!!!

BOYCOTT asg FOREVER !!!!!!!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:35 pm

ESPN said the NETS have stop pursuing D12 after they signed Joe.. They cant afford D12 anymore…Thanks Joe say it is so!

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:37 pm

ESPN: “D12 wishes have been Denied”

B'Red

July 2nd, 2012
11:37 pm

Joe is getting out of town with a boat load of money. I’m glad to see both he and Marvin to leave town. Those were the two main players that the Hawks need to move. Congrats to Ferry.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:38 pm

He’s coming Home to take this Franchise to the FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BILL LAIMBEER

doc

July 2nd, 2012
11:39 pm

Mim 506 i followed that very closely and never remember any of those events onlt Nique’s gushing on how good Marvin was on his tryout here. A lot of folks thought Nique used his voice to sell Marvin. You need to find that info as i imagine about everyone here has never seen it.

doc

July 2nd, 2012
11:43 pm

Buddy he just paid up his whole six year salary in one day. Those numbers are huge and exectrd. Does anyone really think Sund was doing anything except minding thevstore?

Bruce

July 2nd, 2012
11:43 pm

If the Hawks can’t get Paul & Howard next yr then who do they spend all this cap room on? Who will be star quality FA’s next yr that will want to come to ATL?

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:45 pm

D12 and the Hawks are like Kanye and Kim:

Been friends for a long time but never hooked up and when they finally did, Kim said why did it take so long? Duh? Now its the perfect match in their minds! Did she just not buy him a lambo for his birthday? Hmmmm

Buddy Grizzard

July 2nd, 2012
11:47 pm

Sean Cunningham: I just don’t understand why the Utah Jazz traded Devin Harris for Marvin Freaking Williams? R.E.A.L.L.Y? about 17 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zWmsnmGT

LMAO!

Ben

July 2nd, 2012
11:48 pm

random, lopez is white. Do you think he is black? You are an idiot sir. I’m just stating facts. Humprhies and Lopez would get destroyed in the paint on defense

Jaded Hawks Fan

July 2nd, 2012
11:48 pm

Agreed, DP. I can’t fathom what the Nets are doing here. But I have no problem taking advantage of their stupidity.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:50 pm

Uncle Ben who gives a rat azz what color they claim…They still take a chit the same way…

SteveW

July 2nd, 2012
11:52 pm

First of all I’m shocked we are talking about the Atlanta Hawks. The Hawks did this?

So let’s say every other deal falls thru, and we don’t land Dwight. We go into this season with a squad looking like:

Teague/Harris – Fantastic. Best PG position since Mookie.
Morrow/Jenkins/Hazell? – Not fantastic
Josh? Maybe???
Al/Ivan/Scott/Jordan Williams?
ZaZa/Petro

You know, we’ll be ok next season with that lineup – but I’m not sure we’re even a playoff team. Yuck. Rebuilding is terrible.

The next season, the only guy under contract is Al at 12m. We can spend a ton.

SteveW

July 2nd, 2012
11:55 pm

2013/14 – Al 12m
Josh 15 m
Dwight 20 m
Paul 20 m

67 million – filler for the rest. If that’s the direction that Ferry is going, that’s a Championship caliber squad right there.

And if you want Josh at the 4, then trade Al for a couple of pieces.

Git 'em up, gone.

July 2nd, 2012
11:55 pm

Joe and Marvin? Cap room? I’m speechless.

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:56 pm

Gentlemen sometimes you have to take a couple of steps back to take a vertical leap forward…

Not that these moves are a couple of steps back..You get the picture?

Slimjr

July 2nd, 2012
11:57 pm

Gas up the Limo! We’re coming for ya D12…….

SteveW

July 2nd, 2012
11:59 pm

Ben – On hoopshype.

Ben

July 2nd, 2012
11:59 pm

We will still make the playoffs next year. Book it!

Slimjr

July 3rd, 2012
12:00 am

FYI:
120k salary in New York= 26k in Atlanta

Joe’s 90m will take a hit? He better start saving? LOL

Ben

July 3rd, 2012
12:03 am

The magic would not want any part of a Gerald Wallace at 4yr/40mil. That would make zero sense for the magic to take back. Not happening

maaavelous

July 3rd, 2012
12:06 am

You loozahs will miss me Maavalous and my flopping size 18’s.

glw

July 3rd, 2012
12:22 am

@Ben,

not pretending to know what the Magic would want, but Wallace would give them a solid 3, and think would work well with Anderson who is a stretch 4, and Nicholson and Big baby all available at the pf position. i dont see them wanting Humphries either. Lets hope the magic sees it your way and says no to Brooklyn.

Carpio7

July 3rd, 2012
12:23 am

Everything is going perfect! Get Dwight Howard and then bring back Jamal Crawford! :D

Jimmy Crack

July 3rd, 2012
12:33 am

On one hand it’s about damned time. On the other hand, we need to find out real fast who likes to be “the one”. Maybe Harris is our new Mr. BigShot, but at the least it will force Coach Drew to coach x’s and o’s instead of relying on clearouts and his famous “Hot Potato” philosphy where the last guy holding the ball when the shot clock runs out shoots it. He will have to do better this season.

Wabe

July 3rd, 2012
12:33 am

ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Hawks got rid of Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams in a couple hours. Danny Ferry is on fire.
10 minutes ago

Wabe

July 3rd, 2012
12:34 am

NBAonESPN The NBA on ESPN
There’s a new dream in Atlanta. Picture this: Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Josh Smith. –

——-

Man, if that were to happen, yikessssssss.

A city that’s been deprived of superstar talent lands the likes of D12 and Chris Paul…

Can’t even picture what it’d be like.

Ra'mon

July 3rd, 2012
12:34 am

The Magic will not trade D12 to Brooklyn. Orlando is feeling as if D12 strong armed them into making a deal there. And the last thing they will do is reward him with a deal going there (especially when Brooklyn can not trade their draft pick next season). There are 4-5 teams willing to trade for D12 without an extension. No way he ends up in Brooklyn. Wade and Lebron both took pay cuts to play together with Bosh. Williams nor Johnson (too late for Joe) will take pay cuts so D12 can come there a year later.

Yea

July 3rd, 2012
12:35 am

Great great news. Find it ironic that hawks ticket agent called me today to get some tickets and asked what I would change, I said JJ. maybe this was my deal…. haha :p

Wabe

July 3rd, 2012
12:36 am

Still got a ways to go…

But madddddd props to Ferry for positioning us in a way to even be in the coversation. His 2 moves today have dominated ESPN.com and have literally rocked the basketball world.

Who would’ve thought the Joe would be the first domino to fall resulting in reshaping the landscape of the league?

Essentially that’s what happened. Now, D12’s stuck in Orlando and likely won’t have the ability to get to NJ seeing that they don’t have the financial makeup to sign him.

Crazyy day.

bbfan

July 3rd, 2012
12:39 am

One thing is gauranteed, the next two years will be murderous. What we looking at 30 or 40 wins over a two year period !! With all the impatient people on this blog…..there’s going to be alot of b!tching and moaning.
One more thing, you think attendance is bad now….there going to be some lonely seats in Phillip.

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
12:40 am

Joe just took a major hit to his paycheck with those Jersey taxes! He’s got a house here that needs a new owner as well.

I haven’t felt this good since we beat Boston in Game 6 of ‘07. It has been a long wait to feel like we’re doing some good things here.

With that Josh jumper still being a threat every time down the court, I still have hopes that Danny has an idea how to prove to Josh what his strengths are.

So Slim, you expecting Al to pack his bags next?

You know why Josh is a happy Hawk? He’s about to enter FA and he thinks his nimbers are going to grow big time to stay here. He’s our highest paid Hawk for now, and I am sure he wants to climb north of $15M.

Could Zaza be seen now as part of a package? Teague? Is D12 our only option?

Slimjr

July 3rd, 2012
12:51 am

KevinM,

Bye Bye All Get Real! Dont let the door hit ya on the way out!

Doubt we can keep Al and welcome D12 home but Danny is acting like a famous magician so who knows..

Danny is cooking up another rim rocker for sure…

Rusty

July 3rd, 2012
12:59 am

DF buy out LD & get a real coach here.

Ra'mon

July 3rd, 2012
12:59 am

Kevin, Joe is going to New York not Jersey

Just Saying

July 3rd, 2012
1:00 am

Have fun being bored to death watching Joe Johnson Brooklyn. I love that we finally are getting rid of these scabs!!!

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
1:13 am

A Rolling Stop!

Looks like Mr. Ferry just pulled up to a stop sign, looked both ways and, kept rolling. Good job Danny boy, finally an outside perspective has been taken to this unbalanced roster whom, I had grown quite weary of watching and assessing over.

She’s back. Wassup Najeh? I’m all over your perspective, so sign me up to all your comments. While I’m sad to see Mr. Johnson go, it had to be done. It’s more about capology than who comes back in a trade here.

Go BIG or Go Home!

Section 212

July 3rd, 2012
1:25 am

I’m just glad that some decisions have been made

hawks_4_life

July 3rd, 2012
1:37 am

One day you will look back and remember when Hawk Armageddon began. Ferry has now effectively removed D12 from going to the Nets making the Hawks a valid option for him now……YESSSSSSSS

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
1:38 am

Re-Tooled!

“Rebuilding is terrible.” -SteveW-
_________

Rebuilding is a strong word, this looks more like Re-Tooling to me.

Wassup Slim-Juice,Jr … O’ Brien, SteveW, Grand-Daddy, Northcyde, My Buddy, Briggs, GM-JeJe, Worldwide, Soulstar, … KevinM? everyone?

Grandad

July 3rd, 2012
1:45 am

What I`m about to say will be very unpopular.

Dwight Howard is a young man who has lost his way.
I`m usually the 1st to give a 2nd chance.
But what D.H. did for this past yr was so troubling
that I find it hard to wish him back home.

He got his Coach fired / then lied about it.
He quit on his team in more ways than one, more than once.
He is clearly not a leader.
His predilection is ‘`self ‘` 1st; team in arrears.

His skills are unique and Hall 0` Fame-esque
-yet- his leadership suggests,
he is not a champion any more than Joe Johnson.
In fact – Joe was a better teammate.

I`m not even countering the fact;
whether it would be a coup to obtain him.

We already have Josh [for now] who is at best a risk;
when it comes to intangibles.
Pairing Josh with his adolescent friend;
one who has already shown even more immaturity than Josh;
might back-fire and set Josh back even further.

I guess what I`m saying is:
while on the surface Josh and Dwight seem like dream-teammates;
perhaps we should step back and think twice.

It`s like our mothers used to say:
” measure twice and cut once “.

Grandad

July 3rd, 2012
1:47 am

Mary Ellen

No one is more happy to see you back than myself.

Welcome back, Darlin`

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
2:18 am

Just left from spying on the brooklyn blog and thry are over confident that dwight will sign with them… Majority of thete fans are happy with jj and a few nay sayers too… They hoping and pray derron resigns this morning….

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
2:29 am

Fyi…Dwight: Brooklyn cant sign him… But they can still trade for him…… Oan they calling the newjersey hawks now…. lol… Its cool…. We shall have the last laugh… Brooklyn might get a 4 seed if the dw signs… But no further

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

July 3rd, 2012
3:05 am

Yesterday was one of the best days in Hawks history.

Let’s build around Teague, Smooth, and Horford with all the money we have saved. We need to tread water this year and go at Howard hard next year.

Can you imagine Smooth, Horford and Dwight Howard?

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
3:10 am

WorldWide!

YES! co-sign that.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
3:11 am

Build it … they will come!

Jae Evolution

July 3rd, 2012
3:21 am

Wonder if we could send Jordan Williams to Denver for Quincy Miller. Guy was a lottery talent at one point and fell off hard for coming out too early, but he will find NO time in Denver’s system for the forseeable future and we currently have no SF’s on the roster.

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
3:23 am

Dont forget that beast…… Teague

waltbellamy

July 3rd, 2012
3:28 am

“It`s like our mothers used to say:
” measure twice and cut once “.”

Sage wisdom. When in doubt, defer to mom.

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
3:31 am

Ferry for GM of the Year, hands down.

He even managed to bring enough crappy pieces to make it difficult for LD to make a good showing (IMO)… :-D

By Christmas we will have a Hall of Fame coach signed (Phil Jackson) in order to complete the move for D12 and CP3…

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
3:32 am

I wish joe and marv much success…. We wouldny have gotten to the playoffs without them….. I will miss those amazing 3s from near half court from joe…. Marvin just wasnt aggressive enough… He shouldve demanded the ball more often…. Instead his confidence went down and josh confidence kept growing because I guess marvin didnt see himself as an elite, he fell into the trap of being an average roll player

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
3:36 am

I think marvin will find himself in a more controlled environment like utah… Joe gotta come with it…. Lol he thought they booed him here… If he dnt come with it there really gonna roast him up there…. Lol

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
3:39 am

If josh gets traded(which I dnt think will happen) will we still be the highlight factory?… Lol

waltbellamy

July 3rd, 2012
3:42 am

If josh gets traded(which I dnt think will happen) will we still be the highlight factory?… Lol

…..

I would gladly trade hilights for wins.

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
3:45 am

Uum.. I know for a fact harris is not better than teague… But harris is better than pargo… Tracy mcgrady had flashes in the playoffs this year until he got hurt… I think they should resign him if he wants to come back… He was complaining about not gettn his touches but he didnt demand the ball like he shouldve…lol.. Well yeah I guess hes not used to demanding the ball…

Ken Strickland

July 3rd, 2012
3:46 am

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/07/02/nets-hawks-joe-johnson-dwight-howard-trade/
Here’s a must read that pretty much sums up the Hawks current and future status with the JJ trade.

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
3:47 am

@bellamy so u want josh to get traded? Y and if yes for who?

Ken Strickland

July 3rd, 2012
3:58 am

If the Hawks don’t sign a starting caliber FA SF, it looks like Josh will have to move to SF and rookie draft pick Scott will start at PF. Another unanswered question is will rookie Jenkins start at SG, or will one of our new acquisitions, like DHarris. If we end up moving Josh to SF, we might as well start Zaza and move Horford to PF. That would require getting a backup center that can give us a lot more than than the likes of Dampier or Collins.

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
4:01 am

Good article ken

Geno

July 3rd, 2012
4:05 am

Well arent they tryna get ivan back?.. But he is undersize to at center…

waltbellamy

July 3rd, 2012
4:12 am

@bellamy so u want josh to get traded? Y and if yes for who?

……..

I am happy to trade anyone on the roster if it upgrades the team long term. Josh, Al, JT, pick one. I have been a Hawks fan for over four decades. I am not wedded to any one individual.

On a positive note today is about as good a day in the offseason for the Hawks as I can recall.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
4:15 am

Beyond Your Scope!

If you can’t get behind Mr. Ferry and, these two trades?

Then, I have breaking news:
_______________________

Basketball IS beyond your scope. You wanna know what is beyond my scope? Your Breath! Not a sip … Not a swallow … But, the whole damned bottle.

I hate to be mean … But, you need lister-ene!!!
______________

Letz Go Danny Boy! Keep roo\llin’ through them stop signs.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
4:17 am

Yo Mamma!

Yo Mamma … So fat, she walked into Wal-Mart & ALL the prices went down.

PEDRO EL GITANO

July 3rd, 2012
4:31 am

Es un día de celebración para todos los fans de los hawks.Nos hemos quitado mucha mierda de encima,con Joe Johnson no hubieramos ganado nada en 100 años.Espero que también se confirme el traspaso de Marvin por Devin Harris.Hasta ahora Dany Ferry está impecable,le agradeceré siempre estos movimientos,ahora no quiero oír hablar de Brandon Roy,es un timo como Johnson.Dejemos a Morrow y Jenkins en el puesto de 2.Lo harán bien.Vamos a ser un mejor equipo,no tengo la menor duda.Joe y Marvin me quitaban las ganas de vivir viéndoles jugar,estoy completamente feliz!!!

waltbellamy

July 3rd, 2012
4:42 am

What Pedro said.

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
4:50 am

Pedro said:

Today’s is a day of celebration for all Hawks fans. We shed a lot of crap from our hands, with JJ we would not have won anything in 100 years. Now I hope that the Marvin for Devin deal is confirmed. Up until now, Ferry is impeccable, I will always thank him for these moves, now I don’t want to hear about Brandon Roy, he is a mess like Johnson. Lets leave Morrow and Jenkins on the 2 spot. They will be good. We will be a better team, I have no doubt. Joe and Marvin took any will to live just by watching them, I am completely happy.

brigadierjerry

July 3rd, 2012
5:52 am

drmaryb,

Whats up. I was thinking about you when these deals went down wondering when you was going to show up. That is why I have always said you can always get rid of bad contracts you just have to be commmitted and the best part is Hawks didnt get a bad contract back.

Will see what other moves Hawks makes which i think they will make some minor moves but i think the Hawks will make playoffs probably between 6-8 seed but the cap space will be key to see what happens and who they pick up next season. I also think that Larry Drew will be on the hot seat and I dont believe he will be back since I dont believe he is a Ferry type guy as far as coach goes.

Grandad,

Agreed with your post on Dwight Howard. He doesnt seem like he handles pressure well and his decisions off the court rival anything Lebron James did. Seems to have some serious character issues.

WIll be looking forward to the summer league games and the new rookies.

Slimjr when Hawks play in Bk come to Bk and linkup that should be a fun game.

[...] the story at Atlanta Journal-Constitution July 3, [...]

Marcus

July 3rd, 2012
6:19 am

I am kinda down w/Marc Stein (ESPN) on this one …….imagine Horford/Smoove/ D12 all clogging the paint.
Despite some pretty shots by Smoove this year (and some flat-out head scratchers), we all know we don’t want him on the perimeter on a consistent basis…..Horford does have a nice pick-and-pop game, but is that what you want from your 6′10″ frontcourt player? Dwight? There is a reason why ORL offensive setup was to have shooters + him, too much congestion and defensive attention in the middle for any real slashing to the hoop or any other ORL player to maneuver .

I don’t see Dwights’ potential acquisition in 2013 ad the magic potion (pardon pun) as its cracked up to be. Talented, yes ….be all to end all ……..eh, not so much.

Hey drmaryb!

Everybody coming out the woodworks on this trading news …………….

Just Joe

July 3rd, 2012
6:29 am

SF options….

Trade targets: Not many trade targets out there that play SF and only have one year left on their contracts. Corey Brewer is clearly the best option. Milwaukee has Mike Dunleavy.

Possible soon to be free agents: Rashard Lewis and Josh Childress.

Current free agents: Saw where Hawks had interest in Devin Ebanks….Then there’s Matt Barnes, Mickael Pietrus, Grant Hill, Damien Wilkins, Andres Nocioni, etc…

Internal option: Pape Sy

AG

July 3rd, 2012
6:32 am

We still have some holes we need to fill. Maybe Ivan starts at 4 – Josh at 3? I think Lou Williams will be great here. I think Michael Beasley will do well also.

sam'l

July 3rd, 2012
6:37 am

I would like the Hawks to be winners and I like the courage it took Ferry to work some deals immediately. Everyone wants to bring in Dwight Howard. I want the Hawks to win, and Howard might do that. But I dno’t like Howard plays, acts or thinks. Too many times I’ve seen him swinging lethal elbows and too many times acting like a jerk. And getting away with it. He’s got talent and is athletic but I’ll pass. Plus, according to what I’ve read here, the Joe deal isn’t really a done deal if Willilams needs to sign with New Jersey first. Correct me if I’m wrong..

Just Joe

July 3rd, 2012
6:39 am

Orlando getting desperate…..considering Nets trade for Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, and future picks.

Orlando front line of Anderson, Lopez, Humphries, Davis, Clark, Nicholson, and O’Quinn.

No room for the Nets to take back any of Orlando’s bad contracts.

brigadierjerry

July 3rd, 2012
6:40 am

Sounds like Howard going to the Nets for Lopez Brooks, Humpfries and 5 future first round picks. That team will have no supporting cast outside of johnson howard and williams

da5 lasvegas live

July 3rd, 2012
6:46 am

Im falling in love with u danny we will be the okc of the east i love it lets face it joe&marvin had to go for us to win i think danny is on the mapha in way go hawks

Just Joe

July 3rd, 2012
6:47 am

Orlando now probably thinks they can unload all of their bad contracts in separate deals like the Hawks: Turkoglu (2 yrs $17.4M as only $6M of his $12M salary is guaranteed next year), Big Baby (3 yrs $19.4M), JRich (3 yrs $19M), and Duhon (2 yrs $7.6M).

Danny Ferry doesn’t work for Orlando. Good luck!!!

Just Joe

July 3rd, 2012
6:58 am

Couple more SF targets: TMac and AK47.

Samuel

July 3rd, 2012
7:00 am

Trust me, These guys won’t be missed. You know what they bring to the table and neither are superstar caliber…..

BravesFan79

July 3rd, 2012
7:11 am

We get a younger version of Jamal Crawford (Morrow), and a standout defender who gave Labron James problems in the finals (Stephenson). This trade is a A+ for the Hawks. Now keep Smith and Horford, get a new coach, and we gotta good team again!

Kane337

July 3rd, 2012
7:16 am

Danny Ferry…….good job, good effort!

BravesFan79

July 3rd, 2012
7:34 am

Dwight Howard nor CP3 will likely be coming here, but keep on dreaming fellow fans. Our best best is to go after a shotblocking center like Hibbert or Chandler, keep Horford and Smith, and surround them with top level 3pt shooting. We have this in Morrow/ Jenkins. Now we need our center and we will be a elite team in the East. As currently constructed, were still a top 5 team in the East, so peoples talk of the 13 lotto is just dumb.

robert

July 3rd, 2012
7:35 am

finally a good move by the Hawks.Now lets get Howard here.

faye

July 3rd, 2012
7:36 am

I don’t know nothing about those player, but I do know that we are not going to get any better, Johnson was a good player and good team to help us with the new player, what’s exactly make Ferry think we will win more game. It’s not about how the player play it all about how the other team can play better than Hawks. I don’t know what I can say beside just wait n see what the team will do. I won’t be surprise if we lost too many game and don’t ever blame it on the Coach at all. Ferry and the memeber of the Hawks team got to figure out what to do instead of worry about trade and looking for first draft pick. I don’t care who and what but they should not rush to trade Johnson for no apprently without look at the other side of the mirror. I know for fact that Hawks will never get into the final play off not because of the player or coach but because all other team have good player than we do. Miami, OKC, Boston and LA Lakers have much better player and much better of knows how to handle the ball so stick with Johnson would have be the happy day of my life but I can say anything more because everything think Ferry did a good job

Walker, Texas Ranger

July 3rd, 2012
7:37 am

Lets make one more move and I will be really pumped. Cap room and maybe a lottery pick next year if we miss the playoffs 1 year. You have got to go backwards in the NBA to move forward.

Quavoni

July 3rd, 2012
7:40 am

JOE GONE !!!!!!! its not easy to find great shootn 6 time allstar – how will u JOE HATERS feel when he clinch the CHAMPIONSHIP WATCHIN OUR NEXT MOVE CLOSLY GO HAWKS!!!!

jlewis

July 3rd, 2012
7:42 am

Danny Ferry just made the Nets a top team and killed the Hawks, lol. Orlando will have picks also and is a better City than ATL, plus no state tax. Orlando will get the best players and ATL got the scrubs. Howard, Johnson, Wallace, Williams, all unselfish players and above all, good defenders. Welcome to b-ball hell Hawks. Oh yeah, if Josh stays on this team, its not about winning at all, because there wont be any, the destinations will be the Nets, because of New York, and still the Heat.

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
7:45 am

Man if we gave up Teague for Dwight Howard I wouldn’t be too mad about it Giving them Teague, Morrow, Zaza or and 1 first round pick probably the protected pick I’m not mad with a trade like that at all.

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
7:51 am

@jlewis

Okay if this B-ball hell it’s the best place to be right now. Brooklyn doesn’t even have cap space anymore not only that their not after Dwight Howard anymore cause he’s made them upset. They pulled the offer.

Right now if you’re a fan of ATL you got to be very excited by Danny Ferry why he’s done more than Rick Sund ever did these last 2 years.

Danny Ferry is a real GM and once he sees what Uncle Drew really is don’t be surprise to see a actual coach come in soon.

GO HAWKSSSS!!!!!

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
8:00 am

Has anyone looked at Morrow’s career shooting stats?

And last year’s clutch stats (during his worse year as a pro shooting wise):

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

The guy hit 50% and 46% of his FG / 3ptrs in the clutch (92% of those shots are assisted – credit it to Deron, so the were, certainly, spot up shots).

Morrow is a terrific shooter and pretty decent scorer which could be useful this year and eventually may be retained at a decent price if he pans out as a contributor.

Last year he scored 42 points against Minny so there is little doubt that he can bring some offense if we are in need of some.

O'Brien

July 3rd, 2012
8:05 am

From Mark Bradley;

At the rate Ferry is moving, he might be able to convince the NBA to replay the final seconds of Game 6 against Boston from 1988, and make it so that Dominique Wilkins (and not Cliff Levingston) takes the last shot this time..

Is it too late for Ferry to run for Mayor of Atlanta?

Cloudman

July 3rd, 2012
8:05 am

This proves there is a God

O'Brien

July 3rd, 2012
8:06 am

Ra’mon,

I’m not surprised if Josh now has an open mind (after these moves). But I didn’t expect this kind of move from Ferry, especially not this quick. I thought all he would do was amnesty Marvin, and sign a solid bench player or 2.

As for D12 to the Nets, the latest rumor says BK will offer Lopez and Humphries in a SNT, Brooks, and 2-3 first round picks for Dwight.

Cloudman

July 3rd, 2012
8:11 am

A lot of posters on here are complaining about the players we just received. The trade wasn’t about the players YOU IDIOTS. It was about clearing salary and having 20-30 million to spend on free agents after the upcoming season. In addition, we now have 2 first round picks and both should be pretty high picks 10-15. I don’t believe great players will not come to Atlanta. It is a basketball town and will support a team with a star and that is competitive. The Hawks with Dominique were supported and the NBA TV ratings in Atlanta are strong for the playoffs and teams with stars. With 20-30 million to spend next year, we can sign a star…Chris Paul, Dwight, …you never know. Money talks and 30 million talks.

Buddy Grizzard

July 3rd, 2012
8:16 am

Pedro El Gitano:

Un equipo se paga demasiado por Brandon Roy. Los Hawks no deben tomar el riesgo.

Joey

July 3rd, 2012
8:17 am

“Joe is rare talent. Hope we get something good back.”
******************************************
So true.

Rarely do you see a 20-point-a-game player disappear in the playoffs. Rarely do you see one of the highest paid athletes in the world, thumb his nose at his own team’s fans, the same fans who at least partially pay his salary.

JJ is a rarity all right.

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
8:18 am

@ vava74

I just find it so funny how people are nitpicking over these two deals. Everyone on this blog wanted Marvin Gone we actually get what people consider a quality player in return for him.

Now people bitching about Joe being traded for scraps again I say we got out of Joe’s contract 4 years early not 2 years, but 4.

Plus Josh NOW might stay in ATL after all the moves made. Plus we get to see the so called genius Larry Drew do without Joe to rely on.

Having a lineup of Teague, Morrow, Josh, Horford, Zaza for this season is something I can live with.

We take a step backward, but it’s a smart step backwards.

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
8:22 am

@ Joey

My point exactly Joe was good he was no scrub what he wasn’t is a #1 option. We paid this man like he was afraid to lose him, and now with Danny Ferry at the helm we’ve made TWO MAJOR TRADES In like less than 2 days.

Got rid of a horrible draft pick in our history and got rid of the second worst contract in history as well.

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
8:26 am

Oh plus everyone getting their panties in a bunch they’ve extended a QO to Ivan Johnson as well again in only 3 days.

Dude is moving quickly to assemble a better cast of players. Then rumors of CP3 and Dwight Howard as well man COME ON this is an exciting time to be a Hawks fan right now.

Just Joe

July 3rd, 2012
8:28 am

If its true that the Nets are offering Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, and picks for Dwight & Turkoglu, then Lopez & Humphries are about to get paid. You hear me? Dwight & Turk make just over $30M this year. Brooklyn will have to send back somewhere around $24M to make the deal work, and Brooks makes like $2M. Either the Nets pizz off Gerald Wallace and include him in the trade, or you’re about to see Lopez & Humphries get some nice contracts (they may have to throw in Green). Lopez at $12M??? Humphries at $10M???

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
8:32 am

In about 3-5 days, will it be better to be a Net or Hawks fan?

Dana F. Blankenhorn

July 3rd, 2012
8:34 am

Someone mentioned amnesty. That’s a new element in the union contract under which a GM can dump an underachiever’s salary. It’s something a team can only do once. Marvin Williams would have been a candidate for that, but now he’s heading to Utah. Ferry got rid of the two biggest salary problems without resorting to the amnesty, meaning we can still have a bust down the road.

I think he did a great job here. And I really doubt he’s done.

DS

July 3rd, 2012
8:34 am

Just Joe: good point, what Chris Broussard is reporting doesn’t make a lot of sense unless the nets include Wallace. And in that case, the nets would have $60M tied to 3 players. I say we have a better chance at landing Dwight.

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
8:35 am

Teague / Harris
Morrow /Jenkins
…. / …. / Stevenson
J-Smoove/ Ivan / Scott / Jordan Williams
Horford / Zaza /Petro

Let’s face it, for the moment we are looking at a 41 win team at best, unless Teague takes another major step forward or Ferry brings something special with a new trade.

Morrow and Jenkins will not handle the rock, they will strictly sit on the wing and shoot, so Teague will have plenty of time to learn what to do with it.

We can go “big” with Smoove/Horford/Zaza or even with Smoove/Ivan/Horford.

For defensive consistency purposes, if Stevenson still has anything in the tank might be a good option to start the game and keep the perimeter tight since both Morrow and Jenkins are poor defenders… with Morrow playing some minutes at the SF slot as a corner shooter.

Sanjeev

July 3rd, 2012
8:37 am

Howard has zero desire to come play for his home team.

the buster

July 3rd, 2012
8:41 am

The way I see it is one step forward, 2 steps backward. No equal replacement for JJ.

NCBravesFan

July 3rd, 2012
8:42 am

Dana – I may be wrong, but I think the amnesty clause only applies to players who were under contract when the CBA was originally signed.It does not apply to subsequent transactions.

So for us, that now means Teague, Al and Josh.

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
8:45 am

As I was saying yesterday, the Hawks will be a lottery team this coming season. I don’t expect Ferry to make a trade to take back a long-term contract. The light is at the end of a 12 month tunnel. There is no harm in having to go into the tank for a single season (as long as it is a single season). If all goes well, the Hawks will have 2 1st round picks in the 10-18 range next season and a boat-load of cap space.

Oh yeah, John Jenkins = Ben Gordon.

Wille Harris

July 3rd, 2012
8:46 am

Now If we can trade Al horford for a real center and get this Josh and D12 package Crunk and Atlanta will be rocking.

DS

July 3rd, 2012
8:47 am

Ken Berger reports that “ORL GM trying to engage the Hawks, Rockets, Lakers and Mavs in Howard talks” via tweeter

Buddy Grizzard

July 3rd, 2012
8:47 am

Sup drmaryb!

“He got his Coach fired / then lied about it.” – G-Dad

Grandad, I don’t think you have all the facts regarding Dwight’s situation in Orlando. He didn’t get SVG fired. SVG got himself fired by humiliating the franchise player after he opted in to the final year on his contract to placate Orlando’s fans and not be perceived as the bad guy.

There are two schools of thought regarding why Dwight opted in. One is that the Magic threatened to send him to the Lakers if he didn’t opt in, where he would have to play with Kobe, who considered him a third option. The second school of thought is that Dwight honestly wanted to give it one more run with the Orlando squad and do right by Orlando’s fans.

Do you really believe that Dwight was so scared of playing with Kobe for 6 weeks that he gave up his right to become an unrestricted free agent and put his situation in the power of ORL’s front office? I find that implausible. I think Dwight is a guy who really wants to be liked. He didn’t want to leave Orlando as a villain, so he wanted to give it one last playoff run.

Then, after Orlando scores this unbelievable coup by getting Dwight under contract for another year, SVG humiliates Dwight in front of the entire sporting world. Who do you think SVG got his information from? The answer is obvious. He got his information from Bob Vander Weide, the former head of the Magic front office who resigned his position after Dwight called him out for drunk dialing. Vander Weide may have stepped down from his managerial role, but he’s still married to the owners daughter. So he’s still around the team. And he will live the rest of his life with the humiliation Dwight caused him. What better way to get back at Dwight then, just as he thinks he’s returned to hero status with Orlando’s fans, have SVG call him out as a coach killer.

SVG’s actions have done irreperable harm to the Orlando franchise. Don’t question Dwight’s character when he has never showed up to work under the influence of alchohol. And keep in mind that Dwight has every right to complain about SVG behind closed doors. He never publicly called for SVG’s ouster. SVG took what should have been an internal discussion and aired it in public to create a media spectacle.

Rufus1

July 3rd, 2012
8:51 am

AJ,

If Nets get D12….

Then I would prefer to be a Nets fan, because that is only place we now D12 will resign. If D12 signs with the Nets, I wonder how long it will take before they start turning on Ferry. Without the option of D12, no legit players would sign with the Hawks.

I can’t imagine him giving a player like Eric Gordon Max money, so we would have to pray for the luck of the lottery…. Good Luck with that.

Wille Harris

July 3rd, 2012
8:53 am

Sorry Al is just trade bait waiting to be shipped to Orlando. You horford fans are wrong, Dead wrong. D12 knew the Nets weren’t going to get him. Who really want to play for the nets? Really. Make me Laugh. That ” i will only sign and extension” thing was just a hustle to keep the market of suitors in check. Josh and D12 have already talk this out, they both want to rock the world and play together. The best center and one of the best power forwards handling things together. Actually horford fans you guys cant stop the hawks from making this happen. Its gonna happen…this year or next. Stand by. Al might as well start packing. This is the ATL Baby!! This house belongs to Josh and D12. Write it down children. Shawtee.

LMAO!!!!!

Wille Harris

July 3rd, 2012
8:55 am

Rufus1 The Net dont have the money to go after D12. JJ and Deron got that bank.

Buddy Grizzard

July 3rd, 2012
8:57 am

Tell me this Grandad, if an organization places so much power in the hands of a player that the player can become a “coach killer,” and have that coach removed, is the player the problem? Or is the organization and its values the problem?

Also, was Shaq a “coach killer” when he helped convince Pat Riley to fire SVG and take over as coach of the Heat? Since the Heat got a championship out of it, does that make Shaq right? Since Orlando never won anything, does that make Dwight wrong?

Slimjr

July 3rd, 2012
9:00 am

Goodmorning drmaryb! Welcome back..We missed ya!

Just Joe, D12 wants out of Orlando in a bad way.Josh has got to get busy and recruit his best man like nobody’s business to lure D12 to the Hawks..He can do it!

Grandad

July 3rd, 2012
9:01 am

1) I was not with Sundusky during the times in question.

2) its not the first time a player has got a coach shipped.

3) Players make the team coaches dont.

4) you are just starting hatred on D12 because they are going to ship Al Hoford

5) Shut up ! Buzzard Gizzards

STRETCH

July 3rd, 2012
9:01 am

Lang Greene: According to sources, Josh Smith has turned into lead recruiter trying to convince Dwight Howard to consider playing in Atlanta long term. Twitter

Jason S

July 3rd, 2012
9:02 am

… just waiting to see who the Hawks sign to fill the gaping whole at SF.

Is Michael Beasley, Mickael Pietrus, Matt Barnes really the best the Hawks can hope for?

Obviously, these trades were more about looking forward (to the summer of ‘13), then this year …

Jason S

July 3rd, 2012
9:03 am

*than this year …

Grandad

July 3rd, 2012
9:03 am

*they are going to ship Al Horford

Slimjr

July 3rd, 2012
9:04 am

Go get your buddy Josh!

Slimjr

July 3rd, 2012
9:05 am

Al is ready to go to Orlando. That would be like going home? Huh?

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

I hope Josh knows that Ferry wants Dwight. Ferry may prefer to go after either CP3 and/or Bynum.

Willie Harris

July 3rd, 2012
9:08 am

For all you D12 haters and Josh Haters who dont want to see the hawks win a championship, this is all you need to know. then you will understand that the future is inevitable. Its too much money involved in marketing, sells and advertising for this thing not to happen. Check it out.

http://www.google.com/search?q=picture+of+josh+smith+and+Dwight+Howard&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=hKj&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=B-7yT5n9Fub10gHk642FCg&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=665

Willie Harris

July 3rd, 2012
9:12 am

Hater nation yall think Al’s wife is nice check out what santa brought Josh.

http://straightfromthea.com/2010/08/03/inside-josh-smiths-atlanta-hawks-wedding-photos/

Rufus1

July 3rd, 2012
9:18 am

Willie,

They(Nets) are trying to trade for him… That is what Broussard is talking about. If we get D12/Bynum or Harden, then all this was worth it… I don’t want to be a lottery team for 3-5 years or worse, the 7-8 seed for 3-5 years if all we have is Al, Josh and Teague.

[...] addition to sending Joe Johnson to Brooklyn, the Hawks continued to clean house by shipping Marvin Williams off to Utah. Per the AJC: “The Hawks and Nets have agreed to terms on a trade that would send [...]

doc

July 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

You know someone is looking out for the asg

First a divorce over who gets tickets to an all star game in the guise of a blow up over jj

Then they dont take their one chance at true top ten talent to pick marvin

Get lucky over the lottery and keep pick because of blind luck and al falls in their laps

Antagonize a cross over group and many others by selling out a hockey franchise they never wanted

Have a failed buy out

Have some success by getting to playoffs 4 or 5 years in a row was it?

Then have ferry fall in their laps

Then he goes out and does the impossible by everyone’s impression to trade marvin and jj

Daaaaamm again

In one frigging day

Not what worthless souls did he get in the draft?

Do you still think it was sund’s ideas on who to draft or is he smart enough to take the infomation on his on and make decisions?

Yes he has to flesh it out

Somehow against all odds he got shaq for nothing for labron as a team mate who was 18/10 and they were on the cusp until shaq was injured and i was pulling for them. Then he got a good player to try and make up the difference before queen quit in the playoffs like i have never before seen. Thqen he showed his own integrity and washed his hands of the whole cav/labron fiasco when he was instructed to fire a coach that didnt need firing to please his star leaving anyway and said see you later picked up in days to be VP for the spurs

Now he comes back in here and does this in one day after one week on the job?

I am confident based on past actions, if anyone can bring us closer than ever before it is Danny.

Awesome

ryan

July 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

Hawks are big players for Dwight Howard according to Fox Sports after the Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams trades also the article said the Hawks could make a play for CP3 in 2013 FA .

Wabe

July 3rd, 2012
9:34 am

Seeing how intent Dwight is on landing in NJ, I just don’t see the Hawks being his permanent destination.

ryan

July 3rd, 2012
9:37 am

Nets have no money it was probably smart by Ferry to trade Joe to NJ which will make it harder for them to get Howard .

Big ATL

July 3rd, 2012
9:38 am

Danny Ferry for GM of the Year!! Great job getting rid of one of the worst contracts in the NBA!!!!!!!!

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
9:39 am

doc, come on man, “Ferry fall in their laps”? Can’t you give the ASG credit for going after him and hiring him? He didn’t “fall in their lap”. Give them credit for “growing up”.

ryan

July 3rd, 2012
9:47 am

I wounder if we should take look at Derron Williams the Nets are having problems resigning him Howard had said he wants to play with him Anthony Marrow is also a buddy of D12 that could seal the deal along with keeping Josh Smith just saying .

yoursporthousedotcom

July 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

SOMEBODY TOOK ZERO WILLIAMS!!!!!

O'Brien

July 3rd, 2012
9:50 am

doc,

ASG deserves credit not just for hiring Ferry, but for giving him a 6 year contract, and so far, staying out of his way.

Ra'mon

July 3rd, 2012
9:55 am

If Dwight comes here even for only a season, Josh will still extend. Josh will extend for the simple fact that the Hawks are ATTEMPTING to make big moves. If this was Sund, he’d still be evaluating the draft, lol. So it seems Ferry is looking at it as, worst case scenario, we go into the off season with Josh, and building with him, along side over $20 million in cap room.

Statick

July 3rd, 2012
9:56 am

OMG! I feel as if a great weight has been lifted. Joe and Marvin…GONE!

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
9:57 am

OB, doc, Astro,

Talk about a guy actually being worth his own contract:

Ferry just saved ASG 90 million euros in future financial commitments…

Even if their intent is still selling, the Hawks suddenly look a substantially more interesting target for a buyer just on account of these couple of moves.

O'Brien

July 3rd, 2012
9:58 am

Vava,

Let’s face it, for the moment we are looking at a 41 win team at best.

Last year, the #8 seed in the East won 53% of their games. In 2011, the #8 seed won 45%. In 2010, 50%. The year before that, 48%. Therefore, I think the Hawks will compete for the 7-8 seed.

AJ,

I think the Hawks picks next year will be in the 15 – 18 range.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
9:59 am

Twitter!

@SekouSmithNBA
Report: Magic, Nets Still Talking?
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Follow me @drmaryeb

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
9:59 am

Ferry has done more for this city since we lost in Game 7 in Boston. That’s how long its been since this city has been this excited.

Joe is a 3, not a 1.

We need a 1, then follow that with pieces to grow with him.

How about offering Ibaka or Harden a big deal because there is still a lot of upside to them? Are they #1s? No, but they are terrific pieces going forward.

ryan

July 3rd, 2012
10:00 am

NJ area trying to put a happy face on saying they stole Joe Johnson from the Hawks well they can have him and his huge contract its going to be tougher for the Nets to get D12 now .

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
10:03 am

If the Hawks are competing for the chance to play one of the top two seeds in the first round, I’d rather see them tell Al and Josh to take the month of April off.

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
10:04 am

OB, AJ, JustJoe, how much cap space do we currently have to negotiate with FA?

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:05 am

@SekouSmithNBA
RT @SteveNash: Check out my new team tinyurl.com/7cnj3ak (You gotta love this guy!)
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Hey Stevie! sign me up.

J

July 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

if you can’t be excited about this, take your negative nancy arse outta here … biggest news for the Hawks in awhile. Can’t believe he did this in just a week. Can’t believe NJ is dumb enough to take Joe’s inflated contract. Joe is good but that contract would kill any chances we have of making a better team. We still have two all-stars on the team and the chance to make some big splashes next summer!!! GO HAWKS!

Ra'mon

July 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

AJ, if they stay healthy, I have a hard time seeing Josh, Al, and Teague not making the playoffs. However, like you, I would prefer they didn’t make the playoffs. That’s why if Josh extends this summer, I would trade Al for an SF and a sure lottery pick next off season.

O'Brien

July 3rd, 2012
10:07 am

vava,

Another benefit of Morrow (potentially) is he is good friends with Dwight.

Here is a question for bloggers. Howard is making $19 mil this year, and will get a raise with his next contract. Bynum is making $16 mil this year, and will get a raise with his next contract. Both are free agents next season.

Would you prefer Bynum or Howard (and I am assuming Bynum will make ~$3 mil less than Howard annually)?

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
10:07 am

Here is MC’s latest on D12 for all you guys who think we have a crack at D12 coming home:

@ajchawks: MT @WojYahooNBA: So far, Orlando hasn’t seen an offer it believes is enough to seriously consider trading Howard”

This was at 1000 ET this am.

STRETCH

July 3rd, 2012
10:09 am

They just said on ESPN…its the Lakers, Mavs and Hawks are Dwights choices.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:09 am

PBJ!

“How about offering Ibaka or Harden a big deal because there is still a lot of upside to them? Are they #1s? No, but they are terrific pieces going forward.” – KevinM -
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Peanut Butter & Jelly? All we need is a couple slices of Bread.

Astro “Van” Joe! Wassup baby Boy? (i missed you)

STRETCH

July 3rd, 2012
10:10 am

That was at 10:08 AM.

O'Brien

July 3rd, 2012
10:10 am

KevinM,

I think the Hawks are at ~$50 mil in payroll for this season. That would leave about $6 – $8 mil under the cap.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:14 am

Serena!

Serena Williams is Killin’ Kevitova right now. 52 Aces so far! Just Wow!
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Tennis IS my Racket!

MsDee

July 3rd, 2012
10:14 am

Grandad made a great point about how Howard is basically making a fool of himself lately that Im not sure if we need such a player on our team. Yes, he will definitely bring butts in the arena but at the same time, he has shown that he can give up on a team, esp, if he really doesnt want to be here. As much as Dwight would look good coming home, ‘THE HOME’ isn’t where he wants to be. So I said all that to say this, why not look at players like Ibaka and/or Harden. Trying to resign those guys would be hard for OKC. Now with Joe gone, Harden would be licking his chops to now be ‘da man’ here in da A. We will have the money to lure him in so what do you guys think? Teague, Harden, Josh, Al, Ibaka? NOW THAT’S A SQUAD!! Backup’s: Devin, Jenkins, Ivan, Zaza, Morrow, Scott, & rest of Nets srubbs. lol!

Wabe

July 3rd, 2012
10:15 am

Brousard said that *if the deal with the Nets falls through*, then he’d probably look to the Lakers, Mavs, and Hawks as possible destinations.

Still gotta get the Nets out of the picture. If that happens, we could package together one of the most enticing landing spots for Dwight. Playing alongside his childhood friend and throw in one of the league’s top 2-3 PG’s. That’d definitely be an attractive package to pitch.

yoursporthousedotcom

July 3rd, 2012
10:16 am

Follow @yoursporthouse…Hawks are now an NBA team.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:16 am

O’Brien!

“ASG deserves credit not just for hiring Ferry, but for giving him a 6 year contract, and so far, staying out of his way.”
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PREACH!!! CHURCH!!! PULPIT!!!

Just Joe

July 3rd, 2012
10:17 am

KevinM…I have us with very little current cap space. I’ve got us around $55M with the qualifying offer to Ivan (but no other free agent holds).

These are estimates:

Teague ($2.4M+) / Harris ($8M) / Farmar’s buyout ($1.5M)
Morrow ($4M) / Jenkins ($1.2)
Stevenson ($2.3M)
Smith ($13.2) / Ivan’s QO ($.9M) / Williams ($.8M)
Horford ($12M) / Pachulia ($5.2M) / Petro ($3.5M)

Tau

July 3rd, 2012
10:20 am

This update was really pieced together. We are talking about Marvin being traded to Utah, then it starts talking about Deron Williams, but doesn’t mention him so it sounds like it is talking about Marvin signing with Brooklyn.

Very confusing and poor blog. I am perfect and never make mistakes, so I am able to point these things out.

Really, fix this thing!

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:22 am

Just Say No!

NO doc! You’re, awesome.

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
10:24 am

Thx, OB, JustJoe, that doesn’t give us much wiggle room for Nash, who I would be just as happy with as CP3.

And us getting D12? I don’t see it happening as it doesn’t seem like we have enough assets to do that. Al, Jeff and a couple of 1s are going to turn any heads. We have to take Turk on, we have to give up Zaza also. We will have to be very creative to see him coming here.

dap01

July 3rd, 2012
10:27 am

Even if we do nothing this year but fill out the roster with exceptions and minimum contract, we are positioned great for the future.

Go Ferry.

drmaryb: Where is this going? What’s your prediction?

ryan

July 3rd, 2012
10:30 am

Some those players we traded wont be there when the season starts i guess we will keep Morrow to be an attractive piece for D12 i don’t think we are done yet .

CrαZy

July 3rd, 2012
10:34 am

Howard is basically making a fool of himself lately that Im not sure if we need such a player on our team.

Never understood why people cared so much about the off the(”field” “court”) stuff… I go to games to pull for my team and the players on it… I don’t care how the act off the court!! As long as it doesn’t involve breaking the Law.. I don’t dive a Damn!!

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:36 am

Termites!

Yeah Marcus, i’ve been eating the wood from under the empty bleacher seats, up in the rafters with the bats and, “Spirit” The Hawk … but, hey now! She’s back.
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This is Great!

Wassup – My BuddyG?

Darth Furio

July 3rd, 2012
10:38 am

crazy,

It usually does involve breaking the law though.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:41 am

Going … Going … Gone!

“drmaryb: Where is this going? What’s your prediction?” – dap01 -
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I think Mr. Ferry is just getting started. This team is not a gutted fish, just yet. We still got pieces to land D12 and CP3 next year. I think D12 will be moved before this season starts and, The Hawks are positioning themselves so nicely – to bring this kid home.

Letz Go Danny Boy!!!

JD

July 3rd, 2012
10:41 am

There is absolutley no reason the national media should have the lead on these stories. Come on Cunningham, get engaged with the Hawks or let’s get Sekou back. The AJC’s lack of coverage of the Hawks is one of the main reasons the team lacks the city’s support.

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

July 3rd, 2012
10:47 am

Obrien- Either guy works for me Bynum or Howard.If I had to choose tho I would take Bynum for less money. He is bigger/longer and is alot better scoring in the paint. Dwight is a beast but I think Bynum would fit better with Horford/Smoove/Ivan.

DH12 isnt coming here-I just feel it in my gut, dude wants the bright lights and media market of the big apple, he’s a gonner. Also the Nets have a better offer on the table for him-Lopez,Humphries,Brooks and multiple 1st is better than what most teams could offer.

2013 Hawks……CP3-JJenks-Smoove-Horford-Bynum

Bench………..Teague-Morrow-Ivan-Mike Scott-ZaZA-SF-C

O by the way Mike Scott has the jumper that josh dreams about …His Shot it butter.

Whass good MaryB…Long time

yoursporthousedotcom

July 3rd, 2012
10:47 am

@Tau,

The reason it doesn’t point out the differentiation, is because Marvin Williams is not even valid enough to be mentioned multiple times. Also, Williams as in Deron is the only valid Williams in that statement.

Ra'mon

July 3rd, 2012
10:48 am

Guys, if the Hawks trade for D12, it will be nearly impossible for Brooklyn to give Howard a max deal. With $50 mil committed next season to Joe, Williams, and Wallace (not to mention they traded this year’s pick, so they have to draft in first round next season = more salary). So the only way the Nets can get D12 is through trade.

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
10:51 am

KevinM, the moves in the past few days will allow the Hawks to do GREAT things next summer and likely very little this summer. That’s not a complaint… it is the way rebuilding generally works. It usually takes a big step backwards for at least a single season.

Ken Strickland

July 3rd, 2012
10:54 am

No one player is going to replace what JJ brought to the table, especially his clutch shooting and versatility. However, players like JTeague, AHorford, Morrow and Harris collectively can fill in most of the gap. The same goes for Marvin. The Hawks can still compete for a playoff berth, but can’t afford to get off to a slow start this season.

We have 2 starting positions to fill, SF & SG. Who we use to fill those positions, as well as fill out our bench, will determine how well we do this yr. It’s foolish for anyone to believe or predict that we’ll automatically become a lottery team before those decisions are made. As it stands right now, we have only one OFF ball stopper on the team, and that’s JSmith.

With JJ gone, hopefully we can consistently play up to PG JTeague’s speed and score more transition baskets. There will definitely be fewer ball stopping ISOs. The biggest loss that we’ll suffer with JJ and Marvin gone will be their versatility, size, and DEF. It’s pretty certain that expectations won’t be as high as they were before the trades.

So we might as well roll the dice and start a frontline of SF-Josh, C-Zaza, and PF-Horford, unless we sign a starting caliber SF. If Zaza has to be replaced for any reason, we bring in Ivan and slide Horford over to OC. Or, we can bring Ivan in at OC in certain situations, or Petro. At any rate, it looks like SF could end up being our achilles heel.

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
10:56 am

OB, if I were Ferry, I would focus on CP3 and Bynum. Howard can’t hit a game winning shot. The opposing team will play hack-a-Howard and watch him brick 2 free throws. If we’re building from the ground up, I prefer a superstar who could deliver from start to finish as opposed to someone who can’t touch the ball at a crucial moment of the game.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
10:56 am

brian johnson ‏@ccarking
@drmaryeb love the moves had dinner w josh father last nite. They are very excited ! #FerryistheMan

yoursporthousedotcom

July 3rd, 2012
10:57 am

@Astro Joe,

I don’t necessarily think the Hawks will take a huge step back. Remember, the East is still top heavy with Miami, Boston, and Chicago, however Chicago may step back because of D Rose being out. Philly and Indiana are good, but i think the Nets if D12 is acquired will take the place of Chicago. Orlando will not be good. The Knicks should be ok. If another move is made to add a 3 and we keep the rest of the core, I think the Hawks will still have a pretty good team.

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
10:58 am

The stories this year are:

Is Josh a viable #1 for at least this season?

How will Josh’s intentions to be #1 work out with Al, will they work together and be Humpty-Dumpty?

Will Josh’s apparent courting of Howard create a bad vibe with Horford? Or are they together in thinking that, next year, we could go heavy duty with Josh, Al and Dwight?

On offense, Al plays more outside and would be a consistent threat on pick n roll, pick n pop and spot ups from the elbow, so Howard and Josh could work inside.

Are we even interested in doing well this year? Taking in consideration next year’s draft?

Will Teague flourish or perish without JJ next to him? In particular since he will need to hold the rock longer on offense and on D will be paired with salt statues…

BoscoRobinson

July 3rd, 2012
10:59 am

Thank God. Please trade away Joe Johnson. Joe was good for us in the beginning–but he changed to be a selfish, prima dona who ultimately was only interested in the almighty dollar and how much money he could rake up for himself. He ultimately became the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA. Good for him and good riddens–i cant wait till he is wearing a different uniform because I cant stand to see him in a hawks uniform represnting the hawks. Thank the almighty god for getting rid of a selfish, malcontent who is only interest in one name alone–joe johnson.

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
11:01 am

Astro Joe
July 3rd, 2012
10:56 am:

“OB, if I were Ferry, I would focus on CP3 and Bynum. Howard can’t hit a game winning shot. The opposing team will play hack-a-Howard and watch him brick 2 free throws. If we’re building from the ground up, I prefer a superstar who could deliver from start to finish as opposed to someone who can’t touch the ball at a crucial moment of the game.”

Then, you need to ship Josh to LAL because Josh would be pissed with that option (Bynum instead of Dwight).

From a strictly on court bball point of view, I prefer Bynum, but his injury history is frightening (albeit D12’s is recovering from back injury which is a bad omen for the future, IMO).

doc

July 3rd, 2012
11:03 am

Vava said just that a couple of times regarding his true worth to the asg.

Ok OB and AJ for nit picking, instead of falls in their lap maybe i should have said fell their way. Remember philly was in the hunt. Also you guys both know my reaction was to give the basg enough cred to call them the asg going forward. :-)

I also alluded to the length of the contract as a positive and laughed at the notion that some thought it gave Danny wiggle room to do nothing and watch for a year. The best thing about Danny is he was the mirror that forced them to look into it to reveal more than what until now had held themselves accountable for.

Now it is time to wonder how he will flesh out the rest of the roster. We did this in the Mookie era and had a plan with ryder that did not go too far for a rental truck. I believe Danny will do better.

Artman

July 3rd, 2012
11:05 am

As presently constructed I see the Hawks taking a step backwards. I think we are still potentially a playoff team, not a lottery team, although injuries and coaching will determine the results. However the hiring of Danny Ferry and the trades of Joe and Marvin have given us one thing we did not have before. That is hope for a brighter future.

Well done, ASG.

drmaryb.(""_*).

July 3rd, 2012
11:05 am

IMUS WRITE

write it bruh! keep the gud stuff coming. looks like we can shred the 4×4x4 cardboard Bargain Bin and, stick it in the Green Dumpster behind The Dollar Tree Store now. We don’t need it!

Aye Sund! I hate to be mean – but, you need Lister-ene!

doc

July 3rd, 2012
11:06 am

Oh to hear what niremetal would think of this move along with the others.

CrαZy

July 3rd, 2012
11:06 am

Darth Furio

Not with Howard! People bash Howard and LeBron for there actions off the court!! Who cares!!

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
11:10 am

Danny Ferry has made a move in the front office as well….

New assistant GM who was in charge or player personnel at Cleveland is now Wes Wilcox.

Say goodbye to the Sund regime.

SteveW

July 3rd, 2012
11:11 am

Josh and D12 are tight. Morrow is in the mix also and is tight with Dwight. We gotta ship Al, Jeff, ZaZa, both 1st picks next season, both 2nd’s, and our 1st’s in 2015 and 17 for Dwight.

The Nets cannot match that offer. Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, Green and 3 first picks isn’t quite as good as All Star, All NBA Al, up and coming Teague (with more upside than Marshon), and tough guy ZaZa, along with 4, not 3 first round picks.

Astro Joe

July 3rd, 2012
11:11 am

vava, I need Danny Ferry driving what happens over the next 3-5 years, not a player. Could you imagine a player with another fracnhise trying to run things who had never been to the conference finals nor to an All-Star game? I can’t. If Ferry’s plan happens to include Josh (and Dwight), then fine. I want the basketball exec to make the decisions (not owners nor players).

I also really like Rudy Gay as a trade target if things don’t quickly improve in Memphis. I would probably target one max player and try to surround him with a few $10M+ players to build an up and coming team. Said differently, I’d rather spend $50M on 4 players than 3 players.

CrαZy

July 3rd, 2012
11:11 am

Joe was good for us in the beginning–but he changed to be a selfish, prima dona who ultimately was only interested in the almighty dollar and how much money he could rake up for himself.

I never once witnessed or heard Joe being selfish and only caring about money!! The Hawks gave him a contract and he accepted!! You’re lying if you said you wouldn’t take the money as well!! What did you want him to do:

Hawks: Joe were going to pay you 20+ million per year

Joe: Wow.. That’s great!! But, I only want 15 million!!

northcyde

July 3rd, 2012
11:12 am

for Ra’mon

The Nets and the Magic are discussing a trade that would send Howard to the Nets for Brook Lopez, Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks and the Nets’ first-round picks in 2013, 2015 and 2017, sources said. Lopez and Humphries, who are both free agents, would go to Orlando in sign-and-trade deals.

That is a hell of a lot, but the Nets still do have options.

The NBA is a copycat league. And when owners/GMs see how quickly Miami went from nothing to NBA champions, the new formula of success seems to be to acquire as much star/superstar talent as possible, then worry about filling the fringes later.

A rich owner who doesn’t care about paying three guys MAX contracts will do such a thing.

With the moves we’ve made, we need to see which player is better . . . truly better . . Smith or Horford. With no JJ here, we’ll get to really see that this year. Once we see this, that’s when you possibly move one of them in a package for a better player.

Or if both prove that they can really gel as a duo, all you need is a superstar guard to complete the package.

I still say James Harden will be a big time target of teams next season. I thought he would be #1 on the Nets radar in 2013. But with JJ gone, he may be #1 on the Hawks radar. Team Harden with Horford/Smith, and that is a nice nucleus for the future.

SteveW

July 3rd, 2012
11:14 am

In the above scenario, it’s win win. Keep Dwight, re-sign Josh, and you have all kinds of cap room to still sign CP3.

And you have your 1st pick next season for help also.

Lose Dwight – go ahead and lose Smoove also then, and you have only Jenkins under contract for next season at 1.4 mill. or so.

You can build a great team thru Free Agency then.

We have the inside track on Dwight if we want it I would think.

Buddy Grizzard

July 3rd, 2012
11:14 am

“Would you prefer Bynum or Howard (and I am assuming Bynum will make ~$3 mil less than Howard annually)?”

Howard completely destroyed Bynum Jan. 20th. Put on a clinic.

KevinM

July 3rd, 2012
11:16 am

Anyone see the cover of the NY Post: ‘Crooklyn Nets’ for stealing Joe Johnson……now that is a collector’s item.

What they don’t know, they will soon find out about Joe.

And once we’re out of the D12 sweeps, I think we’re need to move either Al or Josh next. We have 2 very good PFs and only need one very good PF.

terrell

July 3rd, 2012
11:16 am

Peter Vescey reporting Hawks moving to St Louis. Wtf??

Section 303

July 3rd, 2012
11:16 am

Has anyone noticed that there are over 1,000 posts on this blog? Has to be some kind of record.

SteveW

July 3rd, 2012
11:17 am

That removing bone from Dwight’s back does have me kinda concerned however. They said they removed quite a bit during that herniated disc operation.

Section 303

July 3rd, 2012
11:17 am

terrell, I think Vescey had just finished off a quart of vodka when he sent that tweet.

Buddy Grizzard

July 3rd, 2012
11:19 am

Harden would look great beside Teague. He’s a point guard in a shooting guard’s body.

Section 303

July 3rd, 2012
11:19 am

I don’t really have an interest in Howard. Just do not like or trust the guy. He just quit on the Magic. The game Orlando played here before the All Star break showed that. Howard was in total half-a$$ mode. No effort. I would much rather have Chris Paul.

terrell

July 3rd, 2012
11:24 am

Hope youre right Section 8.

Eric B

July 3rd, 2012
11:24 am

Thank you Mr. Ferry for sending JJ out of here. I appreciate it. Thanks.

terrell

July 3rd, 2012
11:25 am

Jus kidding section 303. lol

BIG DOG

July 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

Danny Big Dog Ferry.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

northcyde

July 3rd, 2012
11:28 am

LOL . . . the NYC tabloid . . err . . newspapers are a trip with their backpage headlines. Here is the JJ to Brooklyn cover

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/07/03/covers/back070312.jpg

CrαZy

July 3rd, 2012
11:28 am

Has anyone noticed that there are over 1,000 posts on this blog?

Happens every single day on the Braves blog!!

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
11:29 am

@ SteveW

There was another blog by MC that had over 2,000. So this is probably a record in the sense that it’s the fastest to reach 1,000.

So Teague, Smith, Horford, Zaza, Ivan Johnson

This is what it really is so far we don’t know who of the Nets trio is staying or being used for a bigger trade.

Ray

July 3rd, 2012
11:29 am

Cause now they saying Jordan Farmar is being brought out by Hawks.

SteveW

July 3rd, 2012
11:30 am

Section – I remember blogs here extending 33 pages at least – we’ve had this many during some games the past couple of seasons.

But it is pretty exciting.

You know, even with Al and Josh, we still have two of the top 30 players in the League or so.

If we can’t get DH, James Harden would fit really nice here. I don’t think there is any way OKC let’s him get away however.

vava74

July 3rd, 2012
11:31 am

AJ,

If you spend the 50M on 4 players without getting a D12 or CP3 type of player on board, we might be bound to another round of sameness.

Gay has not proven to be a guy who gets wins…

Harden has made a pretty good JJ impression in the finals…

Eric B

July 3rd, 2012
11:33 am

And Mr. Ferry, as for Marvin Williams, well, the 2005 draft speaks for itself:
1: Andrew Bogut
2: Marvin Williams
3. Deron Williams
4: Chris Paul
5: Raymond felton
10: Andrew Bynum

Marvin Williams has been a waste of my time. So long!

northcyde

July 3rd, 2012
11:34 am

If Vescey would’ve said Kansas City or Anaheim, that would be more believable. But St. Louis? They’re on the verge of possibly losing the Rams.

Mike

July 3rd, 2012
11:36 am

@terrell

I was laughing about that too, the estimate cost of moving this team is up to 600m if you include pay NBA relocation fee, playing off Fulton Co Committee, since ASG own Phillips, then they have to find a owner for the stadium, etc etc etc. Good Luck.

doc

July 3rd, 2012
11:38 am

dmb ate at your favorite restaurant last week for draft night, RED! invited with hors d’ouerves on the house.

got a good beer selection as well.

heh heh

CrαZy

July 3rd, 2012
11:38 am

I can’t believe what Ferry pulled off yesterday. When you sit back and think about it… It’s amazing!! No one thought this was possible to get rid of JJ’s contract a week ago… Hell no one thought it was possible yesterday when they woke up!!

Michael Cunningham

July 3rd, 2012
11:39 am

new blog posted. shutting down this thread.

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