Atlanta Hawks: Joe Johnson included in Hawks trade talk
Hawks guard Joe Johnson is included among several trade possibilities being discussed by the team but no deals are imminent, according to a person familiar with the talks.
New Hawks GM Danny Ferry is focused on the trade market as he seeks to re-tool the roster. Johnson is owed $90 million over the next four years and trading him could provide the Hawks salary-cap relief and far greater flexibility for the future.
The Hawks have received calls from teams interested in forward Josh Smith but Ferry so far has considered the price to be too high, according to a person with knowledge of the talks. The person said the Lakers and Magic are among the teams who’ve inquired about Smith.
According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, who first reported the Johnson trade talks, the Nets are looking to pair Johnson with point guard Deron Williams. Williams will be an unrestricted free agent after midnight and Brooklyn is making an effort to entice him to re-sign.
The Hawks still haven’t said if they plan to extend a qualifying offer to forward Ivan Johnson before the midnight deadline. The Hawks were in favor of extending the offer before Ferry’s hire and spent Saturday deliberating the decision with Ferry’s input. If the Hawks don’t extend the offer of about $970,000 for one year, Johnson will become an unrestricted free agent.
Update: The deadline passed with no word from Hawks officials on whether they extended the qualifying offer to Johnson.
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TRACI
June 30th, 2012
10:48 pm
BASICALLY…we are tired of REBUILDING every year. And please this time dont go after a bunch of players barely outta high school. This is not a day care center. The Hawks dont need more players with “training wheels”. , and we get to watch them. “grow” into their positions.
WE HAVE TRIED THAT…..That experiment didnt work.
Grandad
June 30th, 2012
10:49 pm
I would not mind receiving Tyshawn Taylor [Kansas]
in return as part of the pkg.
*(Defensive minded back-up pg)
NUNNA!!
June 30th, 2012
10:50 pm
Correction:
I meant that i agree with northcyde that we can kiss the playoffs goodbye for this year and i will go further and say next year as well..
Teagues brother will get further than jeff in just his Rookie season
Big Ray
June 30th, 2012
10:51 pm
No way you trade him for a bologna sandwich and some old government cheese.
No, no…this isn’t the Billy Knight days of salary dump and cap space cliches. Wait a minute. The ASG is still here….okay, so I’m still a little nervous and you may have a point.
All the same, I can’t see Ferry dumping JJ for any old thing. He’s not insane. That said, assets are only as good as the person managing them. Up til now, asset management has been mediocre at best (on average), and the very best of it since the ASG came to town has been Sund’s ability to put a bench together from scrap contracts.
msc
June 30th, 2012
10:52 pm
If we can get Marshon and Lopez for Joe then I say we do it. We can do a lot more with out team once Joe’s contract isnt here. I love Joe but if we can get a better overall team in the future by trading him now I think we should def. do it.
Anwar sadat
June 30th, 2012
10:52 pm
The so called fans in this room is the reason why Phillips arena be full of visitors during home games
Jae Evolution
June 30th, 2012
10:53 pm
Haha Jeff Teague just responded to superiorblogman on Twitter, that’s funny.
northcyde
June 30th, 2012
10:53 pm
smeer516
June 30th, 2012
10:46 pm
haha. I guess Dwight got scared.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8118159/sources-dwight-howard-tells-orlando-magic-gm-wants-trade-brooklyn-nets
*****************
Wow . . . are you serious?
So Dwight supposedly met with his GM on Friday night, but nothing was said. Now a story about JJ surfaces about going to the Nets, and all of a sudden this Howard story surfaces . . . late on a Saturday night?
Hawks are being used once again, I guess.
Buddy Grizzard
June 30th, 2012
10:54 pm
Nathan Begley: The Nets way” Can’t get Dwight? Panic and grab an aging wing!” about 28 minutes ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zKsUhbLN
lol
cory dillinger
June 30th, 2012
10:55 pm
I just don’t want to give away a 6 time all star for nothing like I said I remember the 8 straight years without being in the playoffs its cool it you guys want to wait 10+ plus years to be in the playoffs again
Sandpower
June 30th, 2012
10:55 pm
What suckers could the Hawks trade with? There’s no way the Nets make that deal because no one in Brooklyn is going to the arena to see Joe Johnson.
Mr.E
June 30th, 2012
10:56 pm
Well that was fun while it lasted.
More Joe next season.
Woop
SteveW
June 30th, 2012
10:56 pm
If we trade Joe Johnson for anything containing Johan (the Rick Sund Pick) Petro, that will be a terrible trade. I don’t even like Petro as filler.
Teague/Lowry at Pg I like
KMart/Marshon Brooks at Sg I like
Humphries/Scola at Pf and Al/Zaza/Lopez at C I can like. Who’s at 3? Any 3s out there waiting to be had?
Big Ray
June 30th, 2012
10:56 pm
The problem is very old, really. We tried to build around Joe. Joe is not a guy you build around. He’s not a superstar, never has been. Then, we went and paid him like he’s the kind of guy who is a superstar and you can build around.
Essentially, the mistake was made TWICE. Funny….Robert Sarver doesn’t look so stupid now….but I digress.
We might not have taken it on the chin so dang hard if….
1) Billy Knight hadn’t been so chronically allergic to point guards. CP3, Deron, Rondo….all top PGs. All passed over by the “genius” and Mr. Potato Head (Woodson).
2) Billy Knight hadn’t followed that insane debacle by taking Shellhead over Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay.
That led to desperation move of all time and a max contract for Joe. So now we’re gonna take it on the chin…hard. The only question is how the punch is coming. Are we gonna get a$$-raped in a trade for…
1) Al
2) Josh
3) Joe
Anybody’s guess….
W. R. Terrell
June 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
The good news is “The house is about to be cleaned.” I am very thankful for Danny Ferry and believe you me, I would rather see a new beginning than the same old ending. This could be an exciting year for the HAWKS and a breath of fresh air for the fans. “Rev in Tampa”, the HAWKS got a B- on the draft. All of this trade talk and movement of players has got the ole adrenalin pumpin. I wanna see the outcome because it could be a lot of fun.
B-Vard TINK
June 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
@ Anwar sadat u right and im a true fan as well..But remember its 18ppg against constant double and triple teams if Joe go who gonna attract al that attention to free his teams mates up??? Let me guess Josh” No Jumper-Self Check” Smith..lmao..really.. once again if we dont get equal back b careful what u ask for Hawlks fans..lol
NUNNA!!
June 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
Traci,
i was just saying the same thing u are now lol..
We don’t need a rebuilding project and that i think,is the main reason that Ferry is getting 6 years..
I bet he told the ASG that he wanted to do this and that but the cavs owner and others were not having it and now look what has happened..
I don’t trust Ferry..Not yet..And,i bet he gave a hell of an interview lol
northcyde
June 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
Haha @ Howard felt that he was “blackmailed” into signing the opt-in clause.
That dude is losing more credibility by the minute.
He makes Royce Reed look like the sane one.
Anwar sadat
June 30th, 2012
10:58 pm
I agree
Big Ray
June 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
Wow . . . are you serious?
So Dwight supposedly met with his GM on Friday night, but nothing was said. Now a story about JJ surfaces about going to the Nets, and all of a sudden this Howard story surfaces . . . late on a Saturday night?
Hawks are being used once again, I guess.
Yep. A$$ clowns for life, it seems. Or as long as current ownership is around. And Ferry’s gonna look bad only because they brought him in LAST SECOND to try and bail them out of years of stupidity.
Ferry is gonna be missing Texas really soon unless he can manage a miracle or two.
Big Ron
June 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
I love this I’ll take whatever for Joe Johnson it would be nice if we could keep Josh Smith but he is leaving so trade him get the best deal possible were not gonna win title with these 2 guys anyway build around Al n maybe n a few years we can compete for it all but this trade will be a good move
hawks players
June 30th, 2012
11:00 pm
who wants to play here anyway?? we just a bunch of nice guys!
Big Ray
June 30th, 2012
11:00 pm
No use in getting worked up unless something actually happens. We’ve been here before, have we not? Every offseason, every trade deadline, for the last HOW many years?
I’ll not hold my breath. Ferry’s here and that’s an upgrade, but that is not a guarantee of anything. At least he talks more (and more candidly) than Skeletor…er, I mean Sund….
hawks players
June 30th, 2012
11:01 pm
seriously no teams in the east stands a chance against the heat.
Big Ray
June 30th, 2012
11:01 pm
Meanwhile Dwight Howard looks more like a punk and a diva than I’d ever have expected. Yet….I’d still take him on this team. Heh…
Buddy Grizzard
June 30th, 2012
11:01 pm
Jarrod Gillis: Johnson’s the def of a ball stopper. Ball stoppers dont help your offense. Used to hate hearin that as a youngster, but understand now about 44 minutes ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zKuOF1rT
Grandad
June 30th, 2012
11:02 pm
I would just as soon have Ty Taylor and A.Morrow;
if Marshon Brooks is some sort of deal breaker.
Brooks is a low % shooter from long range.
Brooks is more a slasher / than a floor spacer.
Morrow is one of the better shooters in the Assoc.
Ty Taylor would be the perfect back-up pg:
*great defender
*champion mentality [Kansas]
*older / mature (22) graduating sr.
More bldg blocks as Mr Ferry continues the process.
-note-
without tearing it down / just doing major repair work.
PD
June 30th, 2012
11:03 pm
I like Marshon Brook Lopez and Gerald Green for Joe and Marvin if the numbers work
jlewis
June 30th, 2012
11:03 pm
This is all comical…One variable is not being discussed, NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY IN ATLANTA, lol. Lose JJ it will cripple this franchise, you cant replace him, if you think you can, name them?
Sheezy
June 30th, 2012
11:03 pm
They need to trade Joe Johnson, the Hawks shouldn’t have given him all of that money.
glw
June 30th, 2012
11:03 pm
I knew it was something fishy about that Joe to Nets rumor, doesnt make sense why would they trade for Joe knowing they were still in the running for Dwight. Not saying Joe to the Nets wouldnt happen, but they not making any trade until they get or decide whats going to happen with Dwight.
doc
June 30th, 2012
11:04 pm
northcyde the guy is a loser and he has a bigger problem with taking accountability as jj does by ten fold. i really think he will fail wherever he goes unless he plays robin in reality while others bow down to him though really pulling the weight. bottom line i can do without him and his narcissism which is waaaay below a deviant ego.
SteveW
June 30th, 2012
11:04 pm
Back got the draft: in my heart of hearts, I was hoping for Moultrie or M Teague. They say rebounding translates, and Moultrie can rebound. Hard worker at MSU also. And Marquis Teague has talent.
That said, been watching some John Jenkins. Player he reminds me most of? Jamal Crawford. Circus shots are us. Just not quite the handles of Crawford, but a truly great shooter, work ethic and competitor.
Didn’t like this Mike Scott guy before the draft. 2 ankle surgeries scare me off. But now that he’s a Hawk, I hope he turns into a beast.
Anwar sadat
June 30th, 2012
11:04 pm
@b-card Tink, I know Joe use to get it done sometimes(lol), but I also remember games when he struggled to score 25 against teams not as good as us. It’s time for a change, it’s not personal. Because I still think we can compete with the right pieces. We still have talent
Rod
June 30th, 2012
11:04 pm
We paid a man 100 milli to go to 2nd round really LOLOL and we are talking about going into next year with him as our leader the definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over again im tired of him he has less passion than a old dog he’s the reason the arena is empty no excitement.
northcyde
June 30th, 2012
11:07 pm
@ Big Ray . . . we don’t have to take anything on the chin if we don’t want to. The Hawks are still a good, but not great team. And JJ is one of the reasons why we’re a good but not great team.
A salary dump means that the ASG simply wants to save money, not improve this team. So what do people want? Dump JJ, then offer another extreme MAX deal to Josh Smith? Is that the deal people want? Wouldn’t that be repeating the same mistake twice?
One thing the ATL fan base has proven, is that they’re not coming out to watch a bad team, no matter if Ferry and ownership try to sell the “rebuilding project”. In ATL, it’s almost more cost effective to stay good, and keep flipping out the “core” pieces, than to completely blow it up and hope for that superstar lottery pick in the draft.
If the future plan for the Hawks is to trade JJ for scraps, then let Smith fall off the books, that is not good for the Hawks at all. Significant cap space means nothing, if you can’t get people to come to your franchise.
Sandpower
June 30th, 2012
11:11 pm
Why does anyone have faith in Danny Ferry when he couldn’t get a legit number 2 for LeBron while in Clev?
northcyde
June 30th, 2012
11:11 pm
LOL @ a one hour rumor, completely derailed
Even Hoopshype has changed their headline story. JJ is even a 2nd option in the rumor mill.
Buddy Grizzard
June 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
“Strange that a story like this drops late on a Saturday night.”
What’s strange about it? Free agency starts at midnight.
Vettledi
June 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
Funny how 90% of the Hawks fanbase keeps screaming TRADE JOE JOE since the summer of 2010 and now that it’s possile all we can read is NO WAY WE LET HIM GO WITHOUT ALL STAR PIECES IN EXCHANGE.
No way this franchise can build something with such a fanbase. Hilarious.
doc
June 30th, 2012
11:17 pm
melvin
good article on ya boy pglll
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/why-did-perry-jones-iii-fall-nba-draft-070711158–nba.html;_ylt=AmcG1QC8V2i4iWqsHwhl.Ig5nYcB
for okc little risk and down side. i think he will play and be good but not great. still not sure about the “injury” issue as everything written is very vague.
doc
June 30th, 2012
11:20 pm
meant pjlll
Neki
June 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
Actually the rumor is still standing, right now northcyde. We all know that it isnt going to happen but its not going way.
robert
June 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
Thye could get NJ to do some sort of sign and trade with Greald Wallace or have NJ do some type of 3 team deal. If ATL does this though they really need to go and grab Mayo
Harry Hawk
June 30th, 2012
11:22 pm
Dwight Howard is such a loser that he will average 20 points, 14 boards, and 2 blocks a game for somebody. I wish the Hawks had a loser center like him.
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northcyde
June 30th, 2012
11:25 pm
Vettledi . . . most people are saying trade him for a dead roach and a stale cracker.
I’m one of the only ones talking about trading him for tangible pieces that can help us now or in the future. The fact is that most of the teams who play the “cap space” game, lose. Bad teams only win when they get that future Hall of Fame type draft pick.
The Hawks missed their chance in 2005 with Paul and possibly Deron.
A team like Golden St has played the cap space and lottery game for years, only to come up short 95% of the time.
Sacramento was a perennial loser, until they flipped their version of Joe Johnson ( Mitch Richmond ), for a young but malcontent big man in Chris Webber. Then things turned around all of a sudden and the franchise did things right for about a 5 year stretch.
But where have they been since they lost Webber and Bibby? Cap space nor draft picks have helped that team.
Until they get that “Hall of Fame” draft pick, the Kings will continue to be bad . . . unless they pull off a trade to get the right player to build around.
Mantis
June 30th, 2012
11:26 pm
Wow… I love this new GM already. Joe Johnson is a bum. He should have never been re-signed. We would have been better off letting him go and giving Jordan Crawford a chance to grow into a star guard. It’s time to let Johnson go. He has no personality and he is only getting in the way of Al Hortford becoming the natural leader of this team.
Danny Ferry
June 30th, 2012
11:27 pm
Some of y’all must not realize that we have around 6.5 million to sign the draft picks and 5 or 6 FAs. Whatever we lose with Joe’s departure we gain on the FA market in bench production that we could not get with 6.5 million dollars. Not to mention we will be done with the iso-joe offense.
brigadierjerry
June 30th, 2012
11:32 pm
Dwight Howard is a crazy guy. Now he went to the union last week seeing if there was a way to get out of his opt-in he took so he can go the Nets?He is a talent but this guy is a absolute tool. i actually have a theory Dwight doesnt want to come to Atlanta because i dont think he would be able to handle the pressue being back home. If he goes to Brooklyn, he will be under extreme pressure even if they play second class fiddle to the Knicks