Atlanta Hawks: Hawks said to pursue Josh Smith for Pau Gasol trade

According to Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times, the Hawks have tired to trade forward Josh Smith for Lakers forward Pau Gasol.

Bresnahan tweeted that no deal is imminent. And a big caveat is that his report says the Hawks first expressed interest in Gasol after Los Angeles was eliminated from the playoffs by the Thunder, back when Rick Sund was still Hawks GM.

The Hawks have since hired GM Danny Ferry, who says he’s focused on building long term. Gasol turns 32 next week and is owed more than $38 million over the next two seasons.

Also, Bresnahan and ESPN’s Chad Ford reported the Lakers are open to trading Gasol for a high lottery pick and players, a price the Hawks can’t match.

The Rockets, who have been accumulating draft picks, could meet the Lakers’ price. Houston already tried to trade for Gasol as part of the infamous Chris Paul deal that was eventually nixed by NBA commissioner David Stern.

Update: Ford now says the Rockets aren’t pursuing Gasol.

Smith, who can become an unrestricted free agent next summer, first told the Hawks he wanted to be traded after last season and reiterated that desire prior to this season’s deadline. Smith wants to join a franchise he feels is more committed to winning and play in a market with better fan support.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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joe

June 27th, 2012
4:29 pm

no i dont want pau gasol jsmooth is way better

msc

June 27th, 2012
4:31 pm

No way the hawks do this. This trade would be so dumb esp. because I read they also want our 23rd pick. Get outta here.

Rod from College Park

June 27th, 2012
4:36 pm

Mike

June 27th, 2012
4:38 pm

Gasol costs more and is on the downside of his career and has constant “motivational issues”. I don’t want either Lakers big men. I also don’t see him doing the Lakers any favors with his recent ties to the Spurs

Big Ray

June 27th, 2012
4:39 pm

….zzzz…..zzzz…..

Wake me up when Joe gets moved.

Mike

June 27th, 2012
4:39 pm

Pau = the Joe Johnson of centers. Makes no sense for the Hawks.

Melvin

June 27th, 2012
4:40 pm

It would be a terrible move for the Hawks

O'Brien

June 27th, 2012
4:42 pm

Rod,

With Teague, JJ, and a defensive minded SF, wouldn’t that help on defense, so it wouldn’t be the laup line you think it would be?

And coming from a guy who loves Jamal (who is a worse defender than Gasol), I didn’t think it would be a big deal to you, assuming Gasol is making up for it on offese…

tlh

June 27th, 2012
4:43 pm

The move that might make sense is Josh to the Lakers, Pau to the Rockets, and some combination of Rockets’ picks to the Hawks.

Astro Joe

June 27th, 2012
4:43 pm

Gasol+Horford>>>Horford+Smith

Sadly, if we trade Josh, we may go from ~24th in home attendance to ~26th in home attendance.

IceColdATLien

June 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

Getting Pau makes a ton of sense, you fools! It allows Al to move to the 4 spot, his natural position, and it gives the Hawks a legit low-post scorer… something ATL hasn’t had since forever. Think about Pau and Al with Zaza coming off the bench and allowing Pau to move to the 4, too. Give it a year or two and, if it doesn’t work, blow it all up in two years and start completely over again.

O'Brien

June 27th, 2012
4:45 pm

* make up for it on offense.

Melvin,

Josh and Marvin for Gasol is a terrible move? I don’t think so. It may be a lateral move, but it would give this team a totally different makeup. And if it doesnt work, Gasol’s contract expires in 2 years. By then, JJ might actually be tradeable, so Hawks could blow it up then if they wanted to.

Rod from College Park

June 27th, 2012
4:45 pm

Gasol and Horford might possibly be the softest, most non intimidating front line in the league. As Barkley said, “They are just a bunch of nice guys”. That move makes us even nicer.

WeBurn

June 27th, 2012
4:45 pm

Make the trade.

Get *something* for Josh, before he walks. Plus this would move Horford to power forward. Then, Gasol’s contract is up at the same time as Marvin’s, so we could shed all that money if it didn’t work out.

Dept. Of Unintended Irony

June 27th, 2012
4:46 pm

“According to Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times, the Hawks have tired to trade forward Josh Smith for Lakers forward Pau Gasol”

I fully understand. I’m tired of “trying” to trade Josh myself.

Tyler

June 27th, 2012
4:46 pm

If the Hawks are going to trade JSmooth, can tey at least trade for someone who is still relatively young and who has not peeked in ability yet. Get someone they can, along with Al Horford, build the future of Hawks basketball.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

June 27th, 2012
4:46 pm

From the standpoint of being able to move Horford to the 4 by aquiring Pau it may be a nice move. Pau was a big part of winning 2 titles for the Lakers and is a solid 17 and 10 a game. Wouldnt be so quick to knock the move simply by listening to all the talking heads on ESPN .

Tyler

June 27th, 2012
4:47 pm

Also, try and trade Marvin and get him off the books

O'Brien

June 27th, 2012
4:47 pm

Rod,

What’s intimidating about Miami Heat’s front line ( Bosh and whoever)? And I thought good defense started on the perimeter.

Yawn....

June 27th, 2012
4:49 pm

Wow….really??

Atlanta has a professional basketball team??

IceColdATLien

June 27th, 2012
4:50 pm

Seriously, what could ATL get back for Josh that’s better than Pau? Gasol is one of the few C’s left on the planet, Al would be freed up to destroy the sorry PF’s in the East, and the most egregious offense-killers and locker room cancers on the Hawks (Josh) would be gone. it creates an inside-out game that ATL hasn’t had in many, many years.

kirkinga

June 27th, 2012
4:51 pm

Too bad we didn’t hold on to Gasol when we drafted him. That said, I think getting rid of players who do not want to be here is good for the team long-term. The Hawks already have one core guy who only stayed for the money and it is hurting the team.

Section 303

June 27th, 2012
4:51 pm

I don’t see why Josh for Gasol is a bad move. I like it. But, that’s it….Josh for Gasol. Don’t want to see the Hawks have to give up a pick too. They would already be doing the Lakers a favor, taking Gasol’s contract away. F them, if they think they get anyone/anything else in addition to Smith.

Golden State becomes my 2nd favorite team, if they take Marvin Williams out of here.

Mike

June 27th, 2012
4:53 pm

but in return be in worst cap hell, since he is owned 20m next year. Passed with a quickness. But MC, if Houston fails in getting D12, do you think that they will contact the Hawks about Josh as well?

High-sider

June 27th, 2012
4:53 pm

“…“Reminds me a little bit of Jamal Crawford,” Pendergraft said. “He’s got a slick way of scoring the ball whether it’s shooting or getting to the rim. He’s thin as a rail, but he’s strong and obviously he’s durable or you couldn’t put up those kind of numbers. It’s going to be interesting to see how he does. He’s still on our board.” – Michael Cunningham quoting Hawks Asst. GM Dave Pendergaft, FTPB

Why look at or consider a “knock-off” (Will Barton) when you can have (or get) “the real thing” (Jamal Crawford)? That’s just like drinking RC Cola, Plaza Cola or Shasta Cola when you can have (or get) Coca-Cola.

“Coke: It’s the real thing.” – slogan by Coca-Cola

“Jamal Crawford: He’s a real scorer.” – slogan by High-sider

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDSnjjdGh5M

Sam

June 27th, 2012
4:53 pm

Do it! I have been saying this for weeks.

Get something for Josh while you can. If he leaves as an unrestricted free agent after next year, then you’re stuck with nothing. Trading Smith and Marvin to the Lakers for Gasol works on the ESPN trade machine.

Gasol would give us a center to play along Al Horford. Joe could move down to the 3. I would prefer they kept the 23 and used it for a backup SF or guard, though.

Astro Joe

June 27th, 2012
4:54 pm

Rod, Barkley should spend his free time trying to improve the Bobcats.

Sam

June 27th, 2012
4:55 pm

Josh Smith to the Rockets is stupid. I am so tired of people trying to talk about that. Lowry has proven himself over 1 year, people. He is not a top 5 PG.

Why would the Rockets want Josh anyway when they already have a glut of big men? Scola, Morris, Dalembert, to name a few.

Reality Check

June 27th, 2012
4:56 pm

We would miss Josh’s rim protection some, no doubt, but that would be partially offset by Gasol’s greater shooting %, greater scoring, much fewer turnovers, rebounding (even though Josh had the best rebounding year of his career – 9.6 /gm, Gasol averaged 10.4), and Teague having more control.

If Josh had not wanted to be traded, no one would be tempted, but since he has indicated his preference to be elsewhere, it’s one of the better trades out there.

Rod from College Park

June 27th, 2012
4:57 pm

“Rod,

With Teague, JJ, and a defensive minded SF, wouldn’t that help on defense, so it wouldn’t be the laup line you think it would be?

And coming from a guy who loves Jamal (who is a worse defender than Gasol), I didn’t think it would be a big deal to you, assuming Gasol is making up for it on offese…”

It’s much easier to hide guards defensively than it is to hide guys who protect the rim. When Josh Smith left games this year, teams attacked the rim relentlesly. Horford or Paul Gasol won’t prevent that. And while Pau is better than Josh on the block, he brings nothing else to the table but being nicer. No intimidation at all in the paint, thus layup line.

tony

June 27th, 2012
4:57 pm

Nice move. JS probably won’t be back after next season anyway.

Jay Dubu

June 27th, 2012
4:58 pm

No, No, and No to Pau!

The Hawks had him when he was younger, cheaper, and anxious to establish himself in the NBA.

Now he’s old (in terms of basketball), extremely expensive, and lacks motivation. He’s done it two consecutive years in LA.

38 million over the next 2 years, that’s another JJ…Making superstar money, but not playing to a superstar level.

O'Brien

June 27th, 2012
5:02 pm

303,

It would have to be Josh and Marvin for Gasol to make the salaries match.

Josh only has one year left on his deal, and there have been rumors that he wants to be traded. Josh has also done nothing to stop those rumors (where is his flat out denial of requesting a trade?).

Therefore, the Hawks probably will not get what Josh is really worth. And if we keep him, then we risk losing him for NOTHING after next season, which may be fine, except the ASG said they do not plan on taking one or two steps back, which is what losing Josh for nothing would be.

Rod from College Park

June 27th, 2012
5:03 pm

“Rod,

What’s intimidating about Miami Heat’s front line ( Bosh and whoever)? And I thought good defense started on the perimeter.”

Bosh is better than Josh and Gasol, and Lebron must be included in their front line. Lebron is who makes them intimidating.

Jay Dubu

June 27th, 2012
5:03 pm

Gasol play forward, Bynum is the center for the Lakers. He plays soft, and the Hawks already have too many of those types now. Josh is one of the few Hakws that play with emotion, so you can’t afford to trade him away for another soft playing bigman.

And Josh, if you want better fan support, play smarter basketball.

The issues with the Hawks organization is another thing, but it appears that they are working to resolve some of their weaknesses.

Greg

June 27th, 2012
5:03 pm

I say go get a younger center. Nene,Cris Kamen. Pau is too soft and hes a Robin, not a Batman. We have a whole team of followers and we need leaders.

Mike

June 27th, 2012
5:05 pm

@Sam

Dalembert was traded today to the Bucks, but Hawks need a better deal then this, Gasol is way too much and does nothing to help out the Salary cap problem unless we magically trade Joe Johnson. Hawks pass

ward

June 27th, 2012
5:05 pm

I would call the rockets right now and tell them they can have Smith for 12, 14, 18 in the draft!!! That with our 23rd pick and we can start rebuilding…We could grab Thad Melo, Tyler Zeller, Tony Wroten, and Quincy Miller… That’s a nice group to add to Hortford, Teague, JJ, and Marvin…let’s amensty JJ too though.

Just Joe

June 27th, 2012
5:05 pm

Josh and Marvin for Gasol and a future first rd pick is the only way I would want the package to look.

Hawks can’t trade this year’s pick thank goodness.

Ward

June 27th, 2012
5:07 pm

If we could get 2 big seven footers to be able to rotate them, move Hortford to the 4 position this team would have a great front court with Zaza too.

Jay Dubu

June 27th, 2012
5:08 pm

Houston is reportedly looking to get Dwight Howard, and sign Deron Williams. Either way. with those many draft picks, they are in a position to make some major moves.

Hawks Blog Legeng Worldwide Clyde

June 27th, 2012
5:10 pm

Gasol for Smoove has Gearon and Sund written all over it.

Moobs Johnson

June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm

This proposed trade makes no sense for the Hawks and that is why it will happen. Get rid of Joe anyway they can and that will be the first step in the right direction.

clarkekent

June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm

trade joe johnson to the nets or to anybody for that matter..who cares what we get back!
then do the same for marvin…

i would love to see josh and rudy gay here.

Ward

June 27th, 2012
5:16 pm

The Hawks have to rid themselves, and us fans, of 3 people: Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, & Marvin Williams in that order… I am okay with taking 2 steps back as a fan to get to the promise land 5 years from now. With the current roster (all 6 players under contract) they cannot win a title… I get so pissed when I think of what they gave Joe Johnson… he is killing the Hawks! This team needs to do all it can to get Hortford to the 4 spot with a big center to help him inside… It may even be where this team needs to trade Hortford to really set itself up for the future… He brings huge value on the market… I would just like to see a team that hustles and has young talent.

Rod from College Park

June 27th, 2012
5:17 pm

“Gasol play forward, Bynum is the center for the Lakers. He plays soft, and the Hawks already have too many of those types now. Josh is one of the few Hakws that play with emotion, so you can’t afford to trade him away for another soft playing bigman.”

“I say go get a younger center. Nene,Cris Kamen. Pau is too soft and hes a Robin, not a Batman. We have a whole team of followers and we need leaders.”

Ding!!!!! It’s a lateral move. You may gain a little offensively, but you lose a lot defensively, and you lose the emotional leader of your team. For all who keep saying Horford is a natural 4, are you sure? Can Horford guard the Dirk, Bosh’s, Aldridge’s and Gasol’s of the NBA? I don’t see it.

Jae Evolution

June 27th, 2012
5:18 pm

Only trade I would make with the Lakers is for Andrew Bynum, so if they want to do that go ahead otherwise hang up the phone.

High-sider

June 27th, 2012
5:19 pm

O’Brien
June 27th, 2012
4:47 pm

Rod,

What’s intimidating about Miami Heat’s front line ( Bosh and whoever)? And I thought good defense started on the perimeter.
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The Miami Heat’s starting lineup in the 2012 NBA Finals is/was as follows:

G – Chalmers
G – Wade
F – James
F – Battier
F/C – Bosh

LBJ makes any front- or backcourt better. We’re talkin’ ’bout LeBron James – the best all-around player in the NBA. LBJ (along with Lamar Odom) could (theoretically) play all five positions (well) on the basketball court. Those five positions include the following:

1. Point Guard
2. Shooting Guard
3. Small Forward
4. Point/Power Forward
5. Point/Power Center

Sherewshevsky

June 27th, 2012
5:21 pm

BIG NO to Gasol.

tyger

June 27th, 2012
5:22 pm

The Fleecing of Atlanta…

Smith, Williams for Pau Gasol:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6nqyaq2

What sense does it make to go from young…
And under-performing to old and underperforming???…

2 yrs of Gasol at $19M or 2 yrs of Marvin at $7M???