Atlanta Hawks: Danny Ferry uncut

Some excerpts from Danny Ferry’s session with reporters following his introduction as Hawks GM.

From Ferry’s opening statement:

I was not looking to leave San Antonio. [Owner] Peter Holt, [coach] Gregg Popovich, [GM] R.C. Buford were incredible to me and my family. Obviously it’s a wonderful place to work.

But getting to know Bruce [Levenson] over the last several weeks made myself think and challenge myself whether this is the right thing to do. I was struck by his humble approach to the past [especially] for a team that has done well. There was a real sense of humility. I was really struck by his intensity, his focus, his energy about going toward the future and trying to build something from the ground up. This was critical to me to know that it can and will be done the right way.

Over the last four years, from 10,000 feet looking at it from San Antonio, this place has done pretty well. Rick [Sund] is a big part of that, Larry [Drew] last year obviously was a big part of that. I am coming here to build on what they’ve done a good job with so far.

My approach coming here, to be clear, is to try to have a value-based identity with good guys that play hard, play together, share the ball [and[ that can be professional on the court. From a program standpoint, from an operation standpoint being progressive, being systematic in how we go about everything whether it's the draft, player development, medical, and so on. And then just a consistent commitment from us building inside out with a good, strong culture and a family atmosphere. Those are the things we will look at every day and hopefully we are doing a good job with it.

Q. How will things work with the draft?

A. "I've been working, just not for the Hawks. I've gone and seen games all year. I am somewhat prepared for the draft as it relates to where the San Antonio Spurs where at [No. 59] and the players we were looking at. My focus changes now with the pick in the first round that the Hawks have in the first round. [The current staff] have done a good job. I will sit in on the process, I will be a part of the process and ultimately will be a big part of making the decision and the things that happen here over the next week.”

Q. What can you bring from San Antonio that can help you here?

“San Antonio, first of all, had a committed ownership. The Holts were fantastic. My conversations with Bruce made me feel comfortable that’s very much where he is and his heart and time and energy are going to go into that going forward. Values-driven; there are good people there. ‘Popp,’ R.C., go down the list of players, that’s a good group of people and ultimately that gives you the best chance to succeed.

“A systematic approach; on the court, the Spurs play a certain way. Hopefully the Hawks will build an identity in that regard even more from where they are now. And then building with the right people in general. The front office, when you look at the people who have come through there—Sam Presti, Rob Hennigan now, R.C. . . .

“‘Popp’ and R.C. have built a good program there and obviously it’s something people are trying to emulate. I had the opportunity to build a program in Cleveland, something I was proud of. We had a lot of success. I’m looking forward to rolling up my sleeves. There are good things here. There are good players. They’ve had a succesful program. This has been a good program but also not something people are satisfied with here.”

Q. Why did you choose here instead of Philly?

“It would have been a great privilege working with Doug Collins. I think he’s a great basketball mind. . . . I got really comfortable with this opportunity as it relates to Bruce. What I get is a great sense of humility but also a sense of intense focus and passion and pride about what can happen here going forward, the resources, the willingness that made me excited about this opportunity.”

Q. This is a team that has been considered good but hasn’t been able to get over the hump. How can you get them there?

“This has been a good team. From the outside looking in, this has been a program that has been right there. I have my opinions from the outside but before I really answer I want to sit down with Rick and Larry. I don’t know all of the behind-the-scenes here. To be able to sit down with the two of those guys and really come up with where they think they are, I will be better able to answer that question. There are some good players. They’ve had some success. That’s one of the things I’m looking forward to.”

Q. What will Rick Sund’s role be?

A. “What we agreed with is let’s work together the next month [through] the draft, free agency, summer league. And really table the discussion until then as far as what he wants and what’s ultimately best for the organization.”

Q. Did you come in here with the expectation that you could make a change with the head coach?

“I look forward to working with Larry. We will have a lot of time together over the next month to really get to know each other. They did a nice job last year as a team. As we get to know each other, hopefully something I can help him with going forward is growing as a coach and he helping me grow as a professional, as well.”

Q. Are there any ‘untouchables’ on the roster?

“I’m here [only] a day. . . . At the end of the day we want to win a championship. At some point we will uncover every stone and look at everything. This group has had a lot of success. It’s a question of, can you go to the next level or are there opportunities? You have got to know what the opportunites are, as well. I think this is a good group of players that has done well.”

Q. This team is in a situation where it’s good but not championship-caliber, yet not bad enough to get high draft picks. With no cap space and lots of committed salaries, how can you improve the team in these circumstances?

“We have our draft choices going forward, first of all. That’s important going forward. We are not encumbered in any way. That being said, the discussions I’ve had with Bruce and the organization have been nothing about players necessarily so far. It’s been more about, ‘Are you willing to do this the right way? Are you willing to invest? There’s a lot of things that we’ll invest in that you won’t see. NBA teams are fragile. The NBA is hard. You invest in all of those things ultimately you put yourself in the best position to succeed. I got comfortable Bruce is in this for the right way and the right reasons and willing to do the things to build the best program to have a chance to succeed and not be fragile and be more successful than average.”

Q. Bruce said you had concerns about this franchise that had to be addressed. What were those concerns? Was it the stability of the ownership? The sale that fell through? The lawsuits they’ve had in the past?

“This organization, Rick has done a good job. It’s had its challenges to deal with: the lawsuit, the sale. That’s a tough thing for a team to deal with. They’ve done a good job, they really, have. From the outside looking in, they’ve been a successful team. I don’t think they are satisfied, and they shouldn’t be. I’m here to build on that success but I knew I need the tools and the ability to be able to build on that. How we build the road map, that’s the stuff we start to dig into now. What are the options? What is the right direction based off of those options? Those are all of the things, I’m fortunate to be able to work with Rick over the next month, hopefully more than that, and get to know Larry over the next month and really dissect what the opportunities are. Look, I’m not walking into this blindly. But [evaluating the roster] is not where my main focus was at the start of this thing.”

Q. Why did you leave Cleveland?

A. “My contract was up. We were on different pages as far as the future. The dynamics of ownership changed on some level. They had five great years in Cleveland. We had the best record the last couple years. We went to the finals. I think we are all proud of what we did. At the end of the day, we didn’t win a championship. That’s disappointing but I’m proud of the program we had there and proud of what we did. Chris [Grant] is the GM there because we did a good job. Lance Blanks, who worked for me, he’s the general manager in Phoenix. Michael Winger is the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City. We had a good program and good people. We are looking forward to putting together a program here and watching it grow.

“I had a good thing in San Antonio. I would not have made the decision to come here if I didn’t think it was good opportunity and a good challenge. It’s not something that’s going to be built over the first week, it’s not something that’s going to be six months or even the first year. Hopefully over time you will see that we’ve built a program that’s really well run, well-organized and prepared to make the best decision we can make and hopefully make the best decision going forward.”

Q. There is a debate here core about whether it’s time to break up the core of players. Where do you stand on that?

A. “There is going to be debate around every team. There was debate over what to do in San Antonio, there was debate over what to do in Cleveland, there is debate over what to do with the Lakers right now. It’s part of this. At the end of the day we will look at all the possible road maps are there and make decisions and move in a direction and hopefully we do it while building a stronger program than what’s already here. Again, they’ve been pretty good. Teams are trying to get where the hawks have been the last few years. So I have to walk in there with a certain respect for that. I’m looking forward to building on that as many ways as we can.”

Q. Both you and Bruce mentioned analytics as an area in which you want to invest. Some teams have proprietary systems. Would that be something you would bring here?

“We are going to look at everything. But I am allowed to do everything. If that’s something that makes sense and come to them and say this is something I want to do, I’m very confident the answer is going to be yes. We are going to look at everything in how we can get better in the organization and what resources need to help make that happen. I’m very comfortable with Bruce’s commitment to do that.”

Q. How much do you use advanced statistics?

“I think you use everything you can. You throw the kitchen sink at things and then you make a decision.”

Q. Do you think the issue of selling team is off the table?

“I would not have come here if I thought that was an issue and if I didn’t feel comfortable with that. Bruce has made me comfortable that he’s in this for the long haul and he hopes I’m standing next to him 12 years from now.”

Q. Do you anticipate there will be changes on your basketball operations staff?

“I don’t think there is time to think about anything right now other than draft and free agency. I am sure there will be changes. Whether that just means addition or whether that means changes we will have to dig into that. Based on what they tell me that we are going to build more programs, I would think we will have a few more people working for us.”

Q. You said that you will be heavily involved in the draft preparation. Will the pick ultimately be your decision?

“Hopefully we can build consensus over what the right hing is. But ultimately I will be the one that will have to make that decision if we can’t come to a consensus.”

Q. You were already doing draft prep for San Antonio. Will it be a matter of comparing notes with the Hawks’ staff?

“Yeah but, granted, we were preparing for the 50th pick. When Manu [Ginobili] got hurt early in the year we looked at the lottery because we didn’t know what the hell was going to happen. I’ve been out watching college games throughout the year and studied tape and done all of the things that we needed to do to prepare ourselves for the draft. For example, Kawhi Leonard we traded to get that draft pick. We traded to get George Hill.

“Do I know all of the guys that are going to be available at 23 like the back of my hand? No, but I know them pretty well. I will use the next few days to dig into those guys in particular. We will be looking at the whole draft because, who knows, maybe we do something else? We’ll see.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

195 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

June 25th, 2012
9:05 pm

Bigger, longer, and uncut?

j smoove

June 25th, 2012
9:12 pm

Yo ferry …. Send me to the nets

j smoove

June 25th, 2012
9:12 pm

B4 I leave like lebron

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
9:17 pm

We need more picks!!!!!

TMACfan

June 25th, 2012
9:17 pm

Great stuff MC

Dept. Of Unintended Irony

June 25th, 2012
9:19 pm

Uncut excerpts? Is that like Living Dead?

On a side note, I’ve actually been called an oxymoron.

Big Ray

June 25th, 2012
9:20 pm

Hopefully Levenson can be true to that humility and give Gearon a big helping of it as well.

Let Danny Ferry do his thing.

If Ferry is smart, he moves one of the true core, one of the three top players. Has to happen. Gotta change this culture, get the team out of the rut it’s in. Best case scenario is moving Joe somehow. He’s not a hall of famer, not the kind of star you need to get to the promised land. Are we gonna get that star by moving Joe? Not by the move itself. We might have to suffer some, for a while, and get a higher draft pick, get a shot at a real stud. Still no guarantee. But we can’t keep this cart hitched to a trio that includes 1) The highest paid player in the League who also isn’t a top 10 talent, 2) a top 10 “across the board” kind of talent that doesn’t coexist well with the highest paid player in the league, and 3) a guy who doesn’t know if he can stick at Center or needs to move to PF.

The Detroit model is built on something we don’t have. So time to drop that ish.

OH, and Danny? Please have something to say on Larry Drew. I know you’re being all PC right now, but get us a real HC. Please.

DawgNole

June 25th, 2012
9:22 pm

karl
June 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

what do y’all think about dominique wilkins as gm?
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Not much–based strictly on the highly questionable quality of his work as a TV basketball analyst.

O'Brien

June 25th, 2012
9:30 pm

Thanks for the blog MC.

I dont like Ferry’s response as it relates to LD and the job he did last year. But I dont expect him to say anything different, since he is stuck with LD for a year.

Both Mark Bradley and Jeff Schultz like the hire of Ferry. I’m just glad a)It’s not Sund and b) It’s not Pendergraft. I am thrilled that its somebody from the outside, who has no connections to these players and ownership.

I will take a wait and see approach, but I will give Ferry the benefit of the doubt right now.

pointguardslim

June 25th, 2012
9:30 pm

At 50 you get best player available.

At #23 the Hawks have been begging for a center. Please Danny. Festus Ezeli.
And 6′7 Tenesse Tech scoring dynamo Kevin Murphy at #43. Add Marvin to the bench. Resign Kirk and Ivan. Thats your bench with Ezeli hopefully eventually starting. Ezeli CANNOT slip to the Heat.

Start Zaza. Start Horford.
Your point guard is Teague. Your off guard is Johnson. Your 6′8 Lebron lite is Josh Smith.

pointguardslim

June 25th, 2012
9:35 pm

The detroit model is built on something you dont have?

You mean a center? Smith is closer to Tayshaun than Marvin ever will be. Horford is closer to Rasheed than Josh is. No Ben Wallace but hopefully we can over come that with Zaza and Ezeli.

The Detroit model scored 90ppg and held you to 85ppg.
The Atlanta Hawks scored 97ppg and held you to 93ppg.

You have to get a center and focus on defense. Get Ezeli and start Pachulia.

beone

June 25th, 2012
9:38 pm

Sounds like he said all that was reasonable to say given the fact he was just hired. We’ll see.

cp

June 25th, 2012
9:41 pm

I actually liked what he had to say. I lived through BK and Sund so I can give this guy a chance to see what he can do. If the ownership lets him do his job then I have no doubt moves will be made. I just wish they would have hired him a lot earlier. Im even more excited about draft night. I think the Hawks will be making some moves.

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
9:47 pm

Danny will construct the proper “road-map” to allow this team to achieve its ultimate goal..

The streak I am glad to predict will be over soon!

Successful corporations use road-maps and then tweak it from there..Sometimes they will throw out the old map and construct a new one to follow..

This is a great day to be a Hawks fan…

I believe something wonderful is about to happen! Ya think?

DawgNole

June 25th, 2012
9:51 pm

northcyde
June 24th, 2012
11:02 pm

. . . as of right now, this team as constructed cannot take out the Miami Heat, or maybe not even Boston . . .
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“Maybe not even Boston”? Maybe??

Did you miss Round 1 of this year’s playoffs (Hawks-Celtics)?

No “maybe” to it.

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
9:57 pm

Hey Danny, once you start peeling the layers back you will discover that this past regular season record was just fluff at 40-26..

Larry’s “real’ record against winning teams[.500 and above] over the last two years is 28-47[about 37%] which is just flat out brutal………

Got to fix that asap! If you can find a terrific replacement outside to shore up the 3 spot will significantly make a difference with that lousy record…

Hoops

June 25th, 2012
9:58 pm

Great hire in Danny Ferry!! I think the draft and free agency will be much more successful now!

Luke Cage

June 25th, 2012
10:02 pm

SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!

Good Luck Danny… you got jobbed in Cleveland where LeBron James and his cast of Akron idiots were really running the show. You just got so hosed. You couldn’t put players around LeBron because the word was out (in the players circles) he wasn’t going to stay there.

You get a 2-3yr pass.

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
10:14 pm

Also Danny I would suggest that you hire Denise Vasi as a spokesperson to market The Atlanta Hawks..She works in Atlanta. She’ll be easy to find….LOL!

KevinM

June 25th, 2012
10:14 pm

So going forward, no more Sund and Gearon interviews? This couldn’t have worked out better. The ordeal to once again stand pat just irked me and it’s just wrong to try to convince the fan base that what we have is enough. As we know, it’s not.

I see T-Mac taking a vaca from roundball in Maui….I wonder if he’s going to be a member here next year now that Ferry is in charge. My guess is we will see a shakeup on the bench and more towards shooters.

SA has always had a guy to be able to come off the bench and get big points. Guess where Marvin will be going forward? On the bench. I would like his Hawks streak of games played to stop at 487, but you have to have a match if amnesty is not an option.
Has Ferry ever amnestied a player?

MC, you should be quite busy this offseason following the developments here. Good luck in keeping us all satisfied with this open forum.

So for now, we sit at 23, with a lot of needs IMO.

Re: Josh…it seems like he has the same options as buddy D12. Do these guys have the same agent? Would Dwight consider coming here now that we have a new mindset? You could do some damage IMO with Joe, Jeff and Dwight. Al, Josh and Marvin should be available immediately if you can get any interest from Dwight. A long reach here, but perhaps lots of opinions are going to be different going forward.

No team needs a face of the franchise more than a team that is a huge NBA city.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 25th, 2012
10:16 pm

Uncut? Is he uncircumcized?

steven a smith

June 25th, 2012
10:20 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

June 25th, 2012
9:05 pm

Obviously Poop is the type of guy who sees the glass half empty… Dude needs Tony Robbins motivational tapes,,,GET THEM NOW DAVENPOOP!!!

From an earlier post criticizing the the Ferry hire…

steven a smith

June 25th, 2012
10:22 pm

Short of Jerry West, Danny Ferry is a great hire..Best move that the ownership group has made in years.

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
10:24 pm

This new hire for the Hawks may go down as the best one in 18 years!

Ernest

June 25th, 2012
10:25 pm

Thanks for creating a new blog regarding Ferry! It will be interesting to see his span of control with respect to personnel.

DJ

June 25th, 2012
10:28 pm

Can someone please copy and paste John Hollingers insider article about the hiring of Danny Ferry.

steven a smith

June 25th, 2012
10:32 pm

Joe to Utah for Al Jefferson would be a super great move for this organization…
Josh Smith to Portland..Draft Tyler Zeller
Horford to Bobcats……..Draft MK Gilcrest/Meyers Leonard

23rd pick Scott Machado PG Iona.

THE TIME HAS COME TO BLOW UP THIS CORE GROUP OF OVERPAID SCRUBS!!!!!!

KevinM

June 25th, 2012
10:36 pm

Slimjr, let me dash your hopes here for Nicholson to make it to slot 23.
Sounds like Orlando likes the big fella at 19 at worse.

Also, sounds like Nicholson ran circles around Melo in the paint. So perhaps you have a good one there.

And what is the amnesty deadline for this year? Because #24 should be on it if he can’t be moved on draft night. We need to get in early and get us a starter from this lottery. Is Josh worth Houston’s 2 1st rounders? That could get us Terrance Ross for scoring and Nicholson for post play.

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
10:48 pm

KevinM, yeah Nicholson may not be as athletic as some but he makes up for it with his very high BBIQ and his foot work is exquisite!

He already is more advanced with the post and perimeter game than any big on the Hawks roster!

His hand eye coordination is remarkable..He is a basketball player at 6′9.5! Man I wish we could get this dude!!! [maybe a knockoff Lebron James without the athleticism?]

Yea he’ll be long gone by the 23rd pick!

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
10:50 pm

Nicholson has Allstar written in his game…..

Hoops

June 25th, 2012
10:55 pm

I believe the Hawks will make a trade to move up in the draft. Either Joe, Josh, or Marvin will be traded. JMO

High-sider

June 25th, 2012
11:02 pm

@Najeh Davenpoop, Grandad, Sautee and others

Najeh Davenpoop
June 25th, 2012
4:13 pm

““Decisions” don’t win NBA championships; “work” (e.g., performance, play, hustle, physical labor, etc.) does.”

Neither “decisions” nor “work” mean as much to winning NBA championships as “talent”.
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The following NBA players had talent: Charles Barkley, Alex English, Ernest “Kiki” Vandeweghe, Patrick Ewing, Dale Ellis, Tom Chambers, Xavier McDaniel, Chris Mullin, Mark Price, George Gervin, Brad Daugherty, Mitch Richmond, Tim Hardaway, Patrick Ewing, Bernard King, Dominique Wilkins, Pete Maravich, Adrian Dantley, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Sidney Moncrief, Terry Cummings, Ricky Pierce, Reggie Miller, Kevin Johnson and others.

But guess what, Najeh? The aforementioned NBA players were never (team) members of an NBA championship team. Winning an NBA championship is a (delicate) mix of decisions, (hard) work/labor, talent, strategy/schematics, opportunity, timing, situation(s) and circumstance(s), etc. Let’s not act like talent and decisions are more important than (hard) work when it comes to “getting it done” or winning an NBA championship. Hard work takes precedent over talent and decisions in this scenario/example.

steven a smith

June 25th, 2012
11:04 pm

PG-Steve Nash/Scott Machado/Jeff Teague
SG-Brandon Roy/2nd rnd pick/Hinrich
SF-Ivan Johnson/T-Mac/Gilbert Arenas
PF- Al Horford/Vlad Rad/Robert Sacre
C-Amare Stoudemeire/Tyler Zeller/Aaron Gray

steven a smith

June 25th, 2012
11:04 pm

PG-Steve Nash/Scott Machado/Jeff Teague
SG-Brandon Roy/2nd rnd pick/Hinrich
SF-Ivan Johnson/T-Mac/Gilbert Arenas
PF- Al Horford/Vlad Rad/Robert Sacre
C-Amare Stoudemeire/Tyler Zeller/Aaron Gray

doc

June 25th, 2012
11:17 pm

slimj, i am so pleased, i will cease and desist to call them the broken atl spirit as this guy has the vision to pull it all back together again. i also hope he can convey what he is doing to the masses and have a good relationship with the press. he has a phenomenal pedigree with a dad as a former hawk and nba gm, is smart and articulate and both a player and a former gm in many organizations. so, maybe he can do it and the fans of atl can come back to a product that they know they can expect certain things from, like excellence, not entertainment and have consistency as a part of it. if coke doesnt taste the same every time then i dont buy it. if players dont make any effort and nothing is done to change that attitude then i am not coming back for more.

if you read between the lines levinson is describing a process where with ferry asking the questions of wtf? there was a base of their own accountability they finally had to take, that they indeed brought this upon themselves. was it that ferry was the messenger telling them from a legit source of how they really looked on the outside. it isnt little nosy jeff schultz of bball wizzard mark asking the questions that really every fan was asking as well and they were so protected by there sycophants they took these things personally and diminished the franchise and disenfranchised their own support fan base with their petty reactions and responses.

we wont have to wait long to see if he can take some action as the draft is just a few days away and i plan on being at the draft party.

i echo o’b and i am sure aj says the same thing, thank you for not delivering up pendergraft for the job. that was my biggest concern we would get once again an unproven product to take us to the promised land because the asg was more comfortable. it seems danny ferry made them uncomfortable enough to get his point across. now let us step back and all of us give him a chance to do his job before we prejudge. not sure if there was anyone out there more capable and we got him.

High-sider

June 25th, 2012
11:21 pm

I feel Josh Smith will be traded. The Atlanta Hawks’ [new] GM, Danny Ferry, doesn’t want another “[The] Decision [Part] II” on his [Ferry's] hands. I really hate the sound of that – Atlanta Hawks GM Danny Ferry – however, that hatred will cease if he [Ferry] [re-]signs Jamal Crawford. [LOL]

Ronnie

June 25th, 2012
11:27 pm

John Hollinger just did a column about it and he loves the hire.

Which say a lot because he pretty much hates everything about the Hawks.

Sugar Ray

June 25th, 2012
11:39 pm

“What have Matt Ryan and Michael Turner shown you that Josh Smith and Joe Johnson haven’t?” – Najeh

That won’t insult the home fans and actually want to be here (no trade demands).

You seem to give a lot of credit to the Hawks for progress, which is fine, but you almost ignore the Falcons’ progress from drafting 3rd overall. Is this a Vick thing?

Sugar Ray

June 25th, 2012
11:40 pm

“What have Matt Ryan and Michael Turner shown you that Josh Smith and Joe Johnson haven’t?” – Najeh

That they won’t insult the home fans and actually want to be here (no trade demands).

You seem to give a lot of credit to the Hawks for progress, which is fine, but you almost ignore the Falcons’ progress from drafting 3rd overall. Is this a Vick thing?

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
11:42 pm

doc,

somebody got through that “wall” of delusion those 7[BASG] threw up and apparently help them come too their senses and did something we did not think they were capable of doing! What a pleasant surprise for us long suffering Hawks fans? Yes? If Danny that had that type of effect on the delusional 7[BASG] than I’m even more impressed with him being here..

Yes doc I agree with you that it will not take long for Danny to reveal his map..Because next week the show will begin with the deepest draft in possibly 10 years begins in full force! This maybe the beginning of our new look Hawks? Wow this is an amazing day? I have been smiling all day! LOL!

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
11:45 pm

Hey doc here comes the heat! The weather channel is predicting 101 degrees Friday and Saturday in Atlanta! Dayum…….

doc

June 25th, 2012
11:47 pm

slimj, not bad for a knick fan. ;-)

i hope you and i can keep smiling. first let us start with true respectability, then the players, wins and hopefully championships or true runs to get there.

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
11:48 pm

[do something] ^^^^^

[delete the first "that"]^^^^^

I need to proof read my ish!!!!!!

Michael Cunningham

June 25th, 2012
11:51 pm

@KevinM: “MC, you should be quite busy this offseason following the developments here. Good luck in keeping us all satisfied with this open forum.”

my blog people can’t get enough, but i understand.

tjhook

June 25th, 2012
11:51 pm

The “Detroit model” had Chauncey Billups at point guard, a leader! The Pistons were in the Eastern Conference Finals for like five straight years. Once they traded their leader for talent (Allen Iverson), they went straight to the crapper. The Hawks have talent, they need an on court talent. Andre Miller, please!!

Slimjr

June 25th, 2012
11:51 pm

“i hope you and i can keep smiling. first let us start with true respectability, then the players, wins and hopefully championships or true runs to get there.” -doc-

Preach, Choir, Tabernacle! Hehehe

Michael Cunningham

June 25th, 2012
11:53 pm

@DJ: “Can someone please copy and paste John Hollingers insider article about the hiring of Danny Ferry.”

please don’t do this, blog people. i’ve got to respect paywalls or else all us writers will be arse out.

Rufus1

June 25th, 2012
11:54 pm

This hire means Josh is Goooooone!

Al is the purest definitions of a Spurs player…..and Josh, not so much.

Ferry was raised in a world where the little things matters…Like turnovers, bad shots and attitude(willing to sacrifice your game for team success)

Spurs free agents that fit the Hawks..Cheap SF
James Anderson
Danny Green

JustSayinB

June 25th, 2012
11:55 pm

Like in the movie “Players Club”, do something to make me happy.

Grandad

June 25th, 2012
11:56 pm

High-Sider

You are just babbling incoherent nonsense.

I do not even know how to respond to your post.

Was there a question, a statement, some sort of theory, what ?

Also, you are attempting to change the discourse;
originally, it was all about black players vs white management.

I`m not gonna let you off the hook
by allowing you to change the argument.

You said black players were the labor,
and therefore management; being white [Hebrew] Jewish et al,
had little to do with success and the winning of Champiuonships !
* [paraphrased]

Now stick to your thesis.
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This is a Great day for the Hawks.

H-S; do not spoil it with your hypocritical manure.