Atlanta Hawks: Danny Ferry uncut

Some excerpts from Danny Ferry’s session with reporters following his introduction as Hawks GM.

From Ferry’s opening statement:

I was not looking to leave San Antonio. [Owner] Peter Holt, [coach] Gregg Popovich, [GM] R.C. Buford were incredible to me and my family. Obviously it’s a wonderful place to work.

But getting to know Bruce [Levenson] over the last several weeks made myself think and challenge myself whether this is the right thing to do. I was struck by his humble approach to the past [especially] for a team that has done well. There was a real sense of humility. I was really struck by his intensity, his focus, his energy about going toward the future and trying to build something from the ground up. This was critical to me to know that it can and will be done the right way.

Over the last four years, from 10,000 feet looking at it from San Antonio, this place has done pretty well. Rick [Sund] is a big part of that, Larry [Drew] last year obviously was a big part of that. I am coming here to build on what they’ve done a good job with so far.

My approach coming here, to be clear, is to try to have a value-based identity with good guys that play hard, play together, share the ball [and[ that can be professional on the court. From a program standpoint, from an operation standpoint being progressive, being systematic in how we go about everything whether it's the draft, player development, medical, and so on. And then just a consistent commitment from us building inside out with a good, strong culture and a family atmosphere. Those are the things we will look at every day and hopefully we are doing a good job with it.

Q. How will things work with the draft?

A. "I've been working, just not for the Hawks. I've gone and seen games all year. I am somewhat prepared for the draft as it relates to where the San Antonio Spurs where at [No. 59] and the players we were looking at. My focus changes now with the pick in the first round that the Hawks have in the first round. [The current staff] have done a good job. I will sit in on the process, I will be a part of the process and ultimately will be a big part of making the decision and the things that happen here over the next week.”

Q. What can you bring from San Antonio that can help you here?

“San Antonio, first of all, had a committed ownership. The Holts were fantastic. My conversations with Bruce made me feel comfortable that’s very much where he is and his heart and time and energy are going to go into that going forward. Values-driven; there are good people there. ‘Popp,’ R.C., go down the list of players, that’s a good group of people and ultimately that gives you the best chance to succeed.

“A systematic approach; on the court, the Spurs play a certain way. Hopefully the Hawks will build an identity in that regard even more from where they are now. And then building with the right people in general. The front office, when you look at the people who have come through there—Sam Presti, Rob Hennigan now, R.C. . . .

“‘Popp’ and R.C. have built a good program there and obviously it’s something people are trying to emulate. I had the opportunity to build a program in Cleveland, something I was proud of. We had a lot of success. I’m looking forward to rolling up my sleeves. There are good things here. There are good players. They’ve had a succesful program. This has been a good program but also not something people are satisfied with here.”

Q. Why did you choose here instead of Philly?

“It would have been a great privilege working with Doug Collins. I think he’s a great basketball mind. . . . I got really comfortable with this opportunity as it relates to Bruce. What I get is a great sense of humility but also a sense of intense focus and passion and pride about what can happen here going forward, the resources, the willingness that made me excited about this opportunity.”

Q. This is a team that has been considered good but hasn’t been able to get over the hump. How can you get them there?

“This has been a good team. From the outside looking in, this has been a program that has been right there. I have my opinions from the outside but before I really answer I want to sit down with Rick and Larry. I don’t know all of the behind-the-scenes here. To be able to sit down with the two of those guys and really come up with where they think they are, I will be better able to answer that question. There are some good players. They’ve had some success. That’s one of the things I’m looking forward to.”

Q. What will Rick Sund’s role be?

A. “What we agreed with is let’s work together the next month [through] the draft, free agency, summer league. And really table the discussion until then as far as what he wants and what’s ultimately best for the organization.”

Q. Did you come in here with the expectation that you could make a change with the head coach?

“I look forward to working with Larry. We will have a lot of time together over the next month to really get to know each other. They did a nice job last year as a team. As we get to know each other, hopefully something I can help him with going forward is growing as a coach and he helping me grow as a professional, as well.”

Q. Are there any ‘untouchables’ on the roster?

“I’m here [only] a day. . . . At the end of the day we want to win a championship. At some point we will uncover every stone and look at everything. This group has had a lot of success. It’s a question of, can you go to the next level or are there opportunities? You have got to know what the opportunites are, as well. I think this is a good group of players that has done well.”

Q. This team is in a situation where it’s good but not championship-caliber, yet not bad enough to get high draft picks. With no cap space and lots of committed salaries, how can you improve the team in these circumstances?

“We have our draft choices going forward, first of all. That’s important going forward. We are not encumbered in any way. That being said, the discussions I’ve had with Bruce and the organization have been nothing about players necessarily so far. It’s been more about, ‘Are you willing to do this the right way? Are you willing to invest? There’s a lot of things that we’ll invest in that you won’t see. NBA teams are fragile. The NBA is hard. You invest in all of those things ultimately you put yourself in the best position to succeed. I got comfortable Bruce is in this for the right way and the right reasons and willing to do the things to build the best program to have a chance to succeed and not be fragile and be more successful than average.”

Q. Bruce said you had concerns about this franchise that had to be addressed. What were those concerns? Was it the stability of the ownership? The sale that fell through? The lawsuits they’ve had in the past?

“This organization, Rick has done a good job. It’s had its challenges to deal with: the lawsuit, the sale. That’s a tough thing for a team to deal with. They’ve done a good job, they really, have. From the outside looking in, they’ve been a successful team. I don’t think they are satisfied, and they shouldn’t be. I’m here to build on that success but I knew I need the tools and the ability to be able to build on that. How we build the road map, that’s the stuff we start to dig into now. What are the options? What is the right direction based off of those options? Those are all of the things, I’m fortunate to be able to work with Rick over the next month, hopefully more than that, and get to know Larry over the next month and really dissect what the opportunities are. Look, I’m not walking into this blindly. But [evaluating the roster] is not where my main focus was at the start of this thing.”

Q. Why did you leave Cleveland?

A. “My contract was up. We were on different pages as far as the future. The dynamics of ownership changed on some level. They had five great years in Cleveland. We had the best record the last couple years. We went to the finals. I think we are all proud of what we did. At the end of the day, we didn’t win a championship. That’s disappointing but I’m proud of the program we had there and proud of what we did. Chris [Grant] is the GM there because we did a good job. Lance Blanks, who worked for me, he’s the general manager in Phoenix. Michael Winger is the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City. We had a good program and good people. We are looking forward to putting together a program here and watching it grow.

“I had a good thing in San Antonio. I would not have made the decision to come here if I didn’t think it was good opportunity and a good challenge. It’s not something that’s going to be built over the first week, it’s not something that’s going to be six months or even the first year. Hopefully over time you will see that we’ve built a program that’s really well run, well-organized and prepared to make the best decision we can make and hopefully make the best decision going forward.”

Q. There is a debate here core about whether it’s time to break up the core of players. Where do you stand on that?

A. “There is going to be debate around every team. There was debate over what to do in San Antonio, there was debate over what to do in Cleveland, there is debate over what to do with the Lakers right now. It’s part of this. At the end of the day we will look at all the possible road maps are there and make decisions and move in a direction and hopefully we do it while building a stronger program than what’s already here. Again, they’ve been pretty good. Teams are trying to get where the hawks have been the last few years. So I have to walk in there with a certain respect for that. I’m looking forward to building on that as many ways as we can.”

Q. Both you and Bruce mentioned analytics as an area in which you want to invest. Some teams have proprietary systems. Would that be something you would bring here?

“We are going to look at everything. But I am allowed to do everything. If that’s something that makes sense and come to them and say this is something I want to do, I’m very confident the answer is going to be yes. We are going to look at everything in how we can get better in the organization and what resources need to help make that happen. I’m very comfortable with Bruce’s commitment to do that.”

Q. How much do you use advanced statistics?

“I think you use everything you can. You throw the kitchen sink at things and then you make a decision.”

Q. Do you think the issue of selling team is off the table?

“I would not have come here if I thought that was an issue and if I didn’t feel comfortable with that. Bruce has made me comfortable that he’s in this for the long haul and he hopes I’m standing next to him 12 years from now.”

Q. Do you anticipate there will be changes on your basketball operations staff?

“I don’t think there is time to think about anything right now other than draft and free agency. I am sure there will be changes. Whether that just means addition or whether that means changes we will have to dig into that. Based on what they tell me that we are going to build more programs, I would think we will have a few more people working for us.”

Q. You said that you will be heavily involved in the draft preparation. Will the pick ultimately be your decision?

“Hopefully we can build consensus over what the right hing is. But ultimately I will be the one that will have to make that decision if we can’t come to a consensus.”

Q. You were already doing draft prep for San Antonio. Will it be a matter of comparing notes with the Hawks’ staff?

“Yeah but, granted, we were preparing for the 50th pick. When Manu [Ginobili] got hurt early in the year we looked at the lottery because we didn’t know what the hell was going to happen. I’ve been out watching college games throughout the year and studied tape and done all of the things that we needed to do to prepare ourselves for the draft. For example, Kawhi Leonard we traded to get that draft pick. We traded to get George Hill.

“Do I know all of the guys that are going to be available at 23 like the back of my hand? No, but I know them pretty well. I will use the next few days to dig into those guys in particular. We will be looking at the whole draft because, who knows, maybe we do something else? We’ll see.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

195 comments Add your comment

O'Brien

June 26th, 2012
1:09 pm

The Portland Trail Blazers are fielding trade offers for guard Jamal Crawford and the Philadelphia 76ers, Minnesota Timberwolves, and Boston Celtics are among the teams actively pursuing the scoring specialist intensely, a league source tells CSNNW.com.

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
1:11 pm

Kevin, let’s see, Spurs were able to get information on a few international players… Parker, Ginobli and Splitter (to name a few current players). So yeah, I think if Ferry wants to consider players outside of the US, I won’t doubt that he knows what he’s doing.

Ray

June 26th, 2012
1:18 pm

Man seems like the trades are in full force today.

People asking for Andre Drummond he’s the guy that most people are picking as their bust pick he didn’t do to hot at Uconn this past year.

Like people said asking for a C just looking at him being 7′0 if I’m not mistaken isn’t Drummond more of a PF not a C wouldn’t that be Horford all over again?

pointguardslim

June 26th, 2012
1:20 pm

Josh Smith putting on 25 lbs and braking his knees at power forward wasnt sacrificing?

Kawhi Leonard vs Josh Smith
Horford vs Duncan

Hawks trade Josh and they will never be the Spurs. Ever. Josh Smith is hands down the most unique advantage they have.

Grandad

June 26th, 2012
1:26 pm

High-Sider

`’Are you, Grandad, accusing me of being divisive?`’
-No-
I accusing you of being a bigot.

‘`[Grandad] ever asked or petitioned your local, county, state and/or federal government to allow you and others to “claim” mulatto, biracial, biethnic, mixed-race and/or multiracial individuals/people for the white race? What was your stance/opinion during the “one-drop rule” era/debate/phenomenon?`’

Nope

H-S;
Have you ever gone to jail ?
for protecting a group of young people of a different color;
who were being wrongly accused; and mistreated;
by local authorities.`’ ?

I Have !
It cost me dearly.
I would do it again …proudly !
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Right is right – wrong is wrong / it has [no] color !
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You brought up the Jews / Hebrews in a previous post;
yet refuse to consider they were abused throughout history.
Remember the “holocaust”.
I am -not- a Jew. / I`m just sayin`, many have been oppressed.
Poor folks of all color have and are oppressed right now …
all over the wortld !
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High-Sider

You are a sad angry man.
I love all my fellow mankind and especially womankind.

I agree with you;
Shane Battier is White !
-also-
If any NBA player has “one drop” in `em;
we get to count `em;
therefore, you cannot say the NBA is a black man`s league.

It is a multi-cultural league of the greatest athletes in the world !

‘`People are like a box of crayons;
some are dark, some are light, some are pretty, some are weird,
some are sharp, while some are dull, and some have funny names;
but they all have to live in the same box.”
- author unknown –

With all due respect to everyone who reads the blog,
G-dad
-where irony meets ebony-

Ra'mon

June 26th, 2012
1:34 pm

Josh Smith no longer wants to be traded after the hiring of Danny Ferry.

And please note that Josh’s pressure on ownership to change the atmosphere and to be committed to winning helped convince ASG to look outside.

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

Ra’mon, source?

MistGamer

June 26th, 2012
1:40 pm

Ra’mon..

This Ferry hire had Josh Smith written all over it. No, Ferry was not hand-picked by Josh, but Josh wanting a higher caliber of competitor running things definitely lead to the Ferry hire.

Buddy Grizzard

June 26th, 2012
1:41 pm

Tier 5
Moe Harkless – Has some upside, has some holes in his game

Fab Melo – 100% bust

Quincy Miller – Can’t guard 3’s. The buildup to this draft will be the last time he ever gets compared to Durant.

Arnett Moultrie – Haven’t heard much negative about him

Andrew Nicholson – Too slow to stay with 3s, will get pushed around by 4s. Still has a role in the NBA because he’s a shot maker

Marquis Teague – If he’s as good as his brother, he will be the steal of the draft. Being surrounded by talent at Kentucky was good training for the NBA, where he will need to set up better players.

Royce White – Star potential. His personal issues have been built up by teams hoping he will fall to them.

Tony Wroten Jr. – 100% bust. Weak handle and can’t shoot. He’s Pape Sy all over again.

Buddy Grizzard

June 26th, 2012
1:44 pm

“Josh Smith no longer wants to be traded after the hiring of Danny Ferry.”

Source?

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

Astro

I knew you would be the first one to respond to Ramon post… LMAO,

Derrick

June 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

we have talent here. the thing is we need is a center. keeping josh and Joe would be great. the last time we traded a key player we went from first to the bottom. we need to go after a star player,and keep josh. if we lose josh who going to play defense. also Atlanta needs to stop giving away their player for free!

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
1:55 pm

I think Sac would do Josh for the #5…but you’re talking to the guy who wanted to trade Josh or Al for Cousins 2 years ago, and Josh or Al for the chance to get Kanter.

We need to get a big man in the biggest way and we are 2 years late in doing so…

I’m ready Danny to break up the core. Our big 3 isn’t very big when needed.

Ra'mon

June 26th, 2012
1:56 pm

AJ and Buddy, no source. I’m just forecasting, because I already have a really good feeling how Ferry and Josh’s conversation went (because I’m positive they spoke last night via phone). And Ferry’s six year contract also gives Josh the security that he will be there the entire duration of Josh’s next contract. Josh simply wants to win and know that management is doing everything in their power to make winning happen.

Ra'mon

June 26th, 2012
2:00 pm

O’B, if Josh agrees to an extension, would you be against trading Al to Charlotte for NEXT season’s first round pick?

Buddy Grizzard

June 26th, 2012
2:01 pm

Josh still wants to go. He will never get a max contract here and he knows he’s a better player than Joe. And he has jealousy issues due to all of the accolades All NBA has received. Josh is gone, peeps. Book it.

darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

#23 FAB MELO

http://youtu.be/7qnArZgD1m8

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

Based on the reasons Josh has given for allegedly wanting a trade, I doubt that Ferry is going to do much to change his mind. I think the way to convince him to stay is to get him a teammate who is better than him. If that teammate is his childhood friend Dwight Howard, all the better.

darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

MELO A 360 DUNK

http://youtu.be/jGTLJcCi_wk

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

Melvin and Ra’mon, many of Josh’s most avid supporters have refuted that Josh wanted to be traded in the first place. So when Ra’mon suddenly admits that Josh previously wanted to be traded, that in and of itself is noteworthy.

Meanwhile, Houston has probbaly decided that if they can get Josh now, they could potentially get Howard later. Josh becomes their spokesperson to hype up the Rockets to Howard. Houston is thinking beyond the next few months, which is how I hope Ferry is thinking. Success is not defined but what happens next season (or the ASG would not have given him a 6-year deal).

Of course, players get traded rather they want to or not. If Josh publicly declares that he doesn;t want to be traded, then Ferry may be able to squeeze a little more out of the trading team.

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

Ra’mon and Astro,

Josh did put a pic of Ferry on his facebook page yesterday Said he was “Excited to welcome Danny Ferry to the Atlanta Hawks family”.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

Apparently the Lakers want to trade Metta World Peace for a late first-rounder. If they decide they want to keep this core together, would you trade the #23 and Marvin for MWP?

darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

Josh will stay, specially with this hire.

ASG MUST STEP UP 2 THE PLATE NOW.

Just keep this team together and add pieces.

This could be the second most talented team in Hawks history.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heisenberg

June 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

Houston is stockpiling 1st round draft picks to try to build a package to Howard. Part of their plans could also include Josh as a way to get Howard to come. It would be worth looking at some combination of Sciola, Martin, Lowery, & a 1st round pick for Josh.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

^I am on the fence about that trade idea, but just wondering what everyone else thinks.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
2:10 pm

“This could be the second most talented team in Hawks history.”

That is like being the world’s second-tallest midget.

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

We are a stage where this core has peaked. If you aren’t trading Josh, then you have to move Al.
So pick your poison, but Josh makes the most sense if you are doing the SA model……Al is locked in at a fair salary. As I said, Joe and Marvin are the components in question. Can they be improved and save salary? I would think so.

Heisenberg

June 26th, 2012
2:13 pm

Najah, may not need to give up anything for MWP as he is a candidate for amnesty. But I would not want him either way.

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

Najeh,

As much as i want to see Marvin traded, i damn sure won’t trade him for the nut case MWP. MWP is not the player (especially defensively) he used to be. I rather amnesty Marvin before we bring MWP on this team.

darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

I remember back in the days during the late 80’s and early 90’s the Hawks had the second best talent in basketball behind the Laker, if they had kept them together Hawks would have atleast 1 NBA title back in the Days.

DOC, RANDY, NIQUE, WILLIS, TREE

SPUD, MCGEE, LEVISTON, CARR, CONTRACT, at this time Contract was playing his best basketball.

This was a good team that took the Celtics 7games.

Have they stayed together they would have a title.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

aizdaman

June 26th, 2012
2:17 pm

Ferry got a 6 year deal because, he is gonna tear this team down and rebuild it

Mike

June 26th, 2012
2:19 pm

@Ra’mon and darrell starks

First of all, we dont have ANY MONEY PERIOD to resigned Josh if we want and if we did, we still have a traffic jam with Horford and Smith playing the same position and Horford playing Center wont work or be complain about it sooner or later. Right now, if we did resigned Josh that means Zaza is gone, Teague wont be resigned and we will be looking for Vetmin until the 2016 season.

Right now, this core has ran its course and its time for change.

darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

Keep this team together and stop listening to everybody out side of the ATL, the Hawks are sttill young.

1. JOE 30YEARS

2. HORFORD 25 YEARS

3. JOSH 26YEARS

4. TEAGUE 23YEARS

5. MARVIN 25YEARS

6. ZAZA 28YEARS

This team is still young

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

Gangsta David Stern is at it again….

“NEW YORK – NBA commissioner David Stern has punished the Oklahoma City Thunder, ordering them to send a future draft pick to the Boston Celtics as compensation for the heart problems that Jeff Green suffered with the Celtics, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Oklahoma City will send Boston the 2013 second-round pick that it controls from Charlotte. Expected to be the worst team in the league again, Charlotte’s pick will likely be the 31st overall. “

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
2:26 pm

“darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:20 pm
Keep this team together and stop listening to everybody out side of the ATL, the Hawks are sttill young.”

Darrell, what haven’t you seen so far that tells you this team still has growth? Age?

These guys are comfortable here, and there’s no one making them accountable for their previous limitations. They is no developement going on in this program.
I have more good reasons to tear it apart than I have to keep it together. As currently constructed, we are no threat to contend past a couple of 1st round wins.
So to be realistic, we are 14 wins away from a title. That’s the facts.

darrell starks

June 26th, 2012
2:27 pm

Mike have you benn watching the HAWKS ?

This team almost beat Bulls last year with Josh at the 3 and Horford at the 4

The Hawks are better when Josh starte at SF and Horford starte at PF

Defensive is the Key to this team i like Zaza starting at center but also wouldn’t mind getting a legit 7′0 would can defend the paint, if this team could find that piece Hawks could be a special team.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heisenberg

June 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

The Hawks are better when Josh starte at SF and Horford starte at PF
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I disagree. Josh had a career year playing mostly at the 4 (and sometimes 5) when Al was out. They both play the same position. I would move Josh while the price is high (and the likelyhood he will not re-sign). Last thing I want to see is him playing the 3 hanging around the arc launching jumpers.

High-sider

June 26th, 2012
2:44 pm

@Najeh Davenpoop

Najeh Davenpoop
June 26th, 2012
11:48 am

Tiger Woods is 50% Asian and 25% Black. Just saying…
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Actually, Tiger Woods “says” (claims) his ethnic/racial makeup (composition) is one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter (black) African-American, one-eighth Native American and one-eighth Dutch. I “say” (claim) Tiger Woods is (a) 100% bullsh-t sellout.

http://www.racialicious.com/2009/12/08/100-cablinasian-getting-the-race-facts-right-on-tiger-woods/

MsDee

June 26th, 2012
2:46 pm

#Hawks to bring back Lamb (Ky) & Jenkins (Vandy) for 2nd workouts Wed. Others: English (Mizzou), Miller (Ky), Fournier (France)

hawks_4_life

June 26th, 2012
2:48 pm

I TRUST DANNY FAIRY. All kidding aside Im all for blowing up this team and starting over. Hopefully this new voice can find us a superstar. JUST REMEMBER FOLK, WHEN HE MAKES A MOVE YOU DONT AGREE WITH DONT THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS. Give him a chance.

Ra'mon

June 26th, 2012
2:54 pm

AJ, show me where I ever stated Josh didn’t want to be traded? I always said Josh doesn’t want to be here if the Hawks aren’t committed to winning and making changes. THAT’s what I’ve always said. And I’ve always said I felt there were a handful of deals that could be made to convince Josh to sign an extension.

EmirS.

June 26th, 2012
2:57 pm

So you guys are willing to say that if Houston was to acquire Josh AND Howard…that neither one of them would resign with the Rockets? I’d beg to differ. Tbh, they would compliment each other. Howard can grab Josh’s misses, Howard would have a legit passing big man, and it would be a block-fest in Houston. Not to mention, once again, that they’e childhood friends. You add some pieces around them and we’re talking Finals contenders. I’d suggest grabbing some bench sharpshooters and a driving PG

However, the only problem I see is Josh trying to be the point guard. But Kevin McHale is the coach there…I doubt he’d be having any of that.

It’s gonna be very interesting to see whats going to happen in the upcoming days.

Heisenberg

June 26th, 2012
3:03 pm

EmirS, my 2:09 post suggests that could very well be the Rockets plan. From Hawks perspective, such a trade would be well worth exploring.

DawgNole

June 26th, 2012
3:10 pm

Sugar Ray
June 26th, 2012
10:39 am

I believe the Hawks and Falcons are on the same level, so I don’t bash either team more than the other. Fans should only focus on championships, which I why I think fans of both teams should stop overrating “fan favorites” past and present if they didn’t bring the city a parade down Peachtree. None of these guys have done anything… Vick, Ryan, Nique, Josh… no trophies in those cases. People in other cities would laugh if someone started bragging about them or acting as if they were all world and untouchable.
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You are correct; none of them have done anything that matters, i.e., won a championship. And because of it, “people in other cities” laugh anyway–regardless of whether or not someone starts “bragging about them.”

It’s time, ATL. It’s time.

Michael Cunningham

June 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

new blog posted. shutting down this thread.