Atlanta Hawks: Danny Ferry uncut

Some excerpts from Danny Ferry’s session with reporters following his introduction as Hawks GM.

From Ferry’s opening statement:

I was not looking to leave San Antonio. [Owner] Peter Holt, [coach] Gregg Popovich, [GM] R.C. Buford were incredible to me and my family. Obviously it’s a wonderful place to work.

But getting to know Bruce [Levenson] over the last several weeks made myself think and challenge myself whether this is the right thing to do. I was struck by his humble approach to the past [especially] for a team that has done well. There was a real sense of humility. I was really struck by his intensity, his focus, his energy about going toward the future and trying to build something from the ground up. This was critical to me to know that it can and will be done the right way.

Over the last four years, from 10,000 feet looking at it from San Antonio, this place has done pretty well. Rick [Sund] is a big part of that, Larry [Drew] last year obviously was a big part of that. I am coming here to build on what they’ve done a good job with so far.

My approach coming here, to be clear, is to try to have a value-based identity with good guys that play hard, play together, share the ball [and[ that can be professional on the court. From a program standpoint, from an operation standpoint being progressive, being systematic in how we go about everything whether it's the draft, player development, medical, and so on. And then just a consistent commitment from us building inside out with a good, strong culture and a family atmosphere. Those are the things we will look at every day and hopefully we are doing a good job with it.

Q. How will things work with the draft?

A. "I've been working, just not for the Hawks. I've gone and seen games all year. I am somewhat prepared for the draft as it relates to where the San Antonio Spurs where at [No. 59] and the players we were looking at. My focus changes now with the pick in the first round that the Hawks have in the first round. [The current staff] have done a good job. I will sit in on the process, I will be a part of the process and ultimately will be a big part of making the decision and the things that happen here over the next week.”

Q. What can you bring from San Antonio that can help you here?

“San Antonio, first of all, had a committed ownership. The Holts were fantastic. My conversations with Bruce made me feel comfortable that’s very much where he is and his heart and time and energy are going to go into that going forward. Values-driven; there are good people there. ‘Popp,’ R.C., go down the list of players, that’s a good group of people and ultimately that gives you the best chance to succeed.

“A systematic approach; on the court, the Spurs play a certain way. Hopefully the Hawks will build an identity in that regard even more from where they are now. And then building with the right people in general. The front office, when you look at the people who have come through there—Sam Presti, Rob Hennigan now, R.C. . . .

“‘Popp’ and R.C. have built a good program there and obviously it’s something people are trying to emulate. I had the opportunity to build a program in Cleveland, something I was proud of. We had a lot of success. I’m looking forward to rolling up my sleeves. There are good things here. There are good players. They’ve had a succesful program. This has been a good program but also not something people are satisfied with here.”

Q. Why did you choose here instead of Philly?

“It would have been a great privilege working with Doug Collins. I think he’s a great basketball mind. . . . I got really comfortable with this opportunity as it relates to Bruce. What I get is a great sense of humility but also a sense of intense focus and passion and pride about what can happen here going forward, the resources, the willingness that made me excited about this opportunity.”

Q. This is a team that has been considered good but hasn’t been able to get over the hump. How can you get them there?

“This has been a good team. From the outside looking in, this has been a program that has been right there. I have my opinions from the outside but before I really answer I want to sit down with Rick and Larry. I don’t know all of the behind-the-scenes here. To be able to sit down with the two of those guys and really come up with where they think they are, I will be better able to answer that question. There are some good players. They’ve had some success. That’s one of the things I’m looking forward to.”

Q. What will Rick Sund’s role be?

A. “What we agreed with is let’s work together the next month [through] the draft, free agency, summer league. And really table the discussion until then as far as what he wants and what’s ultimately best for the organization.”

Q. Did you come in here with the expectation that you could make a change with the head coach?

“I look forward to working with Larry. We will have a lot of time together over the next month to really get to know each other. They did a nice job last year as a team. As we get to know each other, hopefully something I can help him with going forward is growing as a coach and he helping me grow as a professional, as well.”

Q. Are there any ‘untouchables’ on the roster?

“I’m here [only] a day. . . . At the end of the day we want to win a championship. At some point we will uncover every stone and look at everything. This group has had a lot of success. It’s a question of, can you go to the next level or are there opportunities? You have got to know what the opportunites are, as well. I think this is a good group of players that has done well.”

Q. This team is in a situation where it’s good but not championship-caliber, yet not bad enough to get high draft picks. With no cap space and lots of committed salaries, how can you improve the team in these circumstances?

“We have our draft choices going forward, first of all. That’s important going forward. We are not encumbered in any way. That being said, the discussions I’ve had with Bruce and the organization have been nothing about players necessarily so far. It’s been more about, ‘Are you willing to do this the right way? Are you willing to invest? There’s a lot of things that we’ll invest in that you won’t see. NBA teams are fragile. The NBA is hard. You invest in all of those things ultimately you put yourself in the best position to succeed. I got comfortable Bruce is in this for the right way and the right reasons and willing to do the things to build the best program to have a chance to succeed and not be fragile and be more successful than average.”

Q. Bruce said you had concerns about this franchise that had to be addressed. What were those concerns? Was it the stability of the ownership? The sale that fell through? The lawsuits they’ve had in the past?

“This organization, Rick has done a good job. It’s had its challenges to deal with: the lawsuit, the sale. That’s a tough thing for a team to deal with. They’ve done a good job, they really, have. From the outside looking in, they’ve been a successful team. I don’t think they are satisfied, and they shouldn’t be. I’m here to build on that success but I knew I need the tools and the ability to be able to build on that. How we build the road map, that’s the stuff we start to dig into now. What are the options? What is the right direction based off of those options? Those are all of the things, I’m fortunate to be able to work with Rick over the next month, hopefully more than that, and get to know Larry over the next month and really dissect what the opportunities are. Look, I’m not walking into this blindly. But [evaluating the roster] is not where my main focus was at the start of this thing.”

Q. Why did you leave Cleveland?

A. “My contract was up. We were on different pages as far as the future. The dynamics of ownership changed on some level. They had five great years in Cleveland. We had the best record the last couple years. We went to the finals. I think we are all proud of what we did. At the end of the day, we didn’t win a championship. That’s disappointing but I’m proud of the program we had there and proud of what we did. Chris [Grant] is the GM there because we did a good job. Lance Blanks, who worked for me, he’s the general manager in Phoenix. Michael Winger is the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City. We had a good program and good people. We are looking forward to putting together a program here and watching it grow.

“I had a good thing in San Antonio. I would not have made the decision to come here if I didn’t think it was good opportunity and a good challenge. It’s not something that’s going to be built over the first week, it’s not something that’s going to be six months or even the first year. Hopefully over time you will see that we’ve built a program that’s really well run, well-organized and prepared to make the best decision we can make and hopefully make the best decision going forward.”

Q. There is a debate here core about whether it’s time to break up the core of players. Where do you stand on that?

A. “There is going to be debate around every team. There was debate over what to do in San Antonio, there was debate over what to do in Cleveland, there is debate over what to do with the Lakers right now. It’s part of this. At the end of the day we will look at all the possible road maps are there and make decisions and move in a direction and hopefully we do it while building a stronger program than what’s already here. Again, they’ve been pretty good. Teams are trying to get where the hawks have been the last few years. So I have to walk in there with a certain respect for that. I’m looking forward to building on that as many ways as we can.”

Q. Both you and Bruce mentioned analytics as an area in which you want to invest. Some teams have proprietary systems. Would that be something you would bring here?

“We are going to look at everything. But I am allowed to do everything. If that’s something that makes sense and come to them and say this is something I want to do, I’m very confident the answer is going to be yes. We are going to look at everything in how we can get better in the organization and what resources need to help make that happen. I’m very comfortable with Bruce’s commitment to do that.”

Q. How much do you use advanced statistics?

“I think you use everything you can. You throw the kitchen sink at things and then you make a decision.”

Q. Do you think the issue of selling team is off the table?

“I would not have come here if I thought that was an issue and if I didn’t feel comfortable with that. Bruce has made me comfortable that he’s in this for the long haul and he hopes I’m standing next to him 12 years from now.”

Q. Do you anticipate there will be changes on your basketball operations staff?

“I don’t think there is time to think about anything right now other than draft and free agency. I am sure there will be changes. Whether that just means addition or whether that means changes we will have to dig into that. Based on what they tell me that we are going to build more programs, I would think we will have a few more people working for us.”

Q. You said that you will be heavily involved in the draft preparation. Will the pick ultimately be your decision?

“Hopefully we can build consensus over what the right hing is. But ultimately I will be the one that will have to make that decision if we can’t come to a consensus.”

Q. You were already doing draft prep for San Antonio. Will it be a matter of comparing notes with the Hawks’ staff?

“Yeah but, granted, we were preparing for the 50th pick. When Manu [Ginobili] got hurt early in the year we looked at the lottery because we didn’t know what the hell was going to happen. I’ve been out watching college games throughout the year and studied tape and done all of the things that we needed to do to prepare ourselves for the draft. For example, Kawhi Leonard we traded to get that draft pick. We traded to get George Hill.

“Do I know all of the guys that are going to be available at 23 like the back of my hand? No, but I know them pretty well. I will use the next few days to dig into those guys in particular. We will be looking at the whole draft because, who knows, maybe we do something else? We’ll see.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

195 comments Add your comment

Michael Cunningham

June 26th, 2012
10:40 am

@ Melvin: “MC,

Did you get a feel from your interview with Ferry that he will shake up this core this summer?”

he didn’t have much to say about the roster. but my general understanding was that a new GM would mean it’s more likely there will be major changes.

STRETCH

June 26th, 2012
10:45 am

MC,

I know you dont have much say so about moves like the rest of us, but what would YOU like to see the Hawks do as far as personel?

glw

June 26th, 2012
10:46 am

@Jae Evolution,

Yeah they gave up the 18th pick for Chase Budinger, and while he and Marvin have similar stats, there is one big difference, Budinger has a team option for less than a million, a rotational player who makes less than a million is a HUGE asset. Marvin makes 9 times what he makes and gives about the same numbers. So Marvin is not bringing anything back but another bad contract, I am not sure marvin can be traded for a 2nd round pick, why would a team take on 15 million for 2 years for a rotational player at best? Marvin is either amnestied (which would suprised the hell out of me), or traded for another bad contract or the Hawks would have to package another asset with marvin, like a future 1st rd pick or something.

UGA

June 26th, 2012
10:49 am

MC:

If the Hawks use their mid-level or bi-annual exception does that put them into the tax?

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
10:50 am

After this morning trade with Minny, Houston now has 3 first round picks. I think they may have bigger deal in place for some or all of this picks. Dwight and Josh, hmmmmm

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

June 26th, 2012
11:05 am

Grandad the girls at Strokers said they miss you…….Cinnamon and Six Two say u are a wild bot. I guess they miss that social security money on the first…” I make it rain in dis _ytch”

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:14 am

Melvin, yep, someone called Josh “Dwight bait”.

Budinger makes less than $1M, so Minnesota clearly was looking for a SF with very little salary.

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

June 26th, 2012
11:15 am

High-sider

June 26th, 2012
3:43 am
@THE IMMORTAL…I MUS WRITE

“…Shane Battier is the whitest black guy in America…..Well next to Brian Gumble…” – THE IMMORTAL…I MUS WRITE, June 26th, 2012 @2:43 am

Is he (Shane Battier) whiter than (the self-proclaimed “Cablinasian”) Eldrick Tont “Tiger” Woods? (Remember the “one-drop rule.”)

-…….Without a doubt.-Tyger Woods is an Act, the man hates the black part of him so much he will do whatever to denounce it …IE- WTF is Carmalasian/ Cabalasian. He single handedly created a new box for the census forms. When I see Tyger I see a black man and so does the rest of the world…..Had he been hanging with me -I would have got him some dimes for half what he was paying those _kanks….. Really billion dollar boy …A waitress was the best you can do- Those women with the exception of one or two were just Ehhhh…..
Shane on the other hand Shane is just Shane its not an act with dude he is who he is..with that said I sure would like to party with him -I’ll bet women of all races are throwing their panties at dude….Kind like Prince and Lenny Kravitz

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
11:21 am

Astro,

I would prefer that “Dwight Bait” be used to bring him to ATL but I don’t expect you to agree with that…:-)

THE IMMORTAL...I MUS WRITE

June 26th, 2012
11:24 am

O’Brien

June 26th, 2012
10:05 am
There have been rumors about Josh wanting to leave, and although he has not admitted to it, he also has not come out and denied it.

I think when Ferry talks to him, he will be asked about his desire to be apart of the team going forward (not just this year). And if Josh’s response is “I will play out my contract and go from there”, I will not be surprised to see Ferry start looking at trade options for Josh.

…I could easily see this happening and if it does we will then know that Ferry has free reign to do what it takes to improve this team.

Avery Bradley/Bass/2nd for Josh/2013 2nd

Brook Lopez 1st or 2nd for Josh

Paul George/1st for Josh

Rufus1

June 26th, 2012
11:29 am

Marc Stein: Trade story add: Dwight obviously Rockets’ dream target but sources say they’ll pursue Atlanta’s Josh Smith (and others) if ORL won’t budge Twitter

Just Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:29 am

Marc Stein is reporting that Houston will pursue Josh Smith if Orlando doesn’t bite on Howard offer.

I think Houston has enough assets to get both. Lowry. Dalembert’s partially guaranteed deal. Cap space. Rights to DMont. Kevin Martin. 3 first round picks. Patterson, Morris, and Parsons. Some even consider Scola an asset.

Ray

June 26th, 2012
11:32 am

Again I say we can do so much better than a 1 player 1 pick for Josh seriously.

Example 4 picks from Cavs this year plus 1 for next round(1st round not 2nd) plus 3 players

I’m not saying deal him to the Cavs, but just saying people undervalue his true value once Josh lands on another team(hopefully not) he’ll change that team the moment they get there in my example if Josh goes back to the Cavs they become an instant playoff team or at least playoff bound with him. Depending on pieces put around him and Irving that might even be better than the hawks cause they got us on the PG position(no offense to Teague).

That’s only an example I’m not condoning a trade for Josh to Cavs though.

doc

June 26th, 2012
11:33 am

aj good point and ferry sales ability and what that can or will do to get folks coming here. i dont think sund didnt do it but was less articulate. bk preferred to not talk at all. again, i hope part of his build out is to have a transparent plan, convey it to get fan buy in and then execute. that would be huge.

also aj, to put in context, the problem with the bibby trade was it cost a lot of money to cover up bk’s mistakes and/or arrogance. this is a positive move instead of a cover-up without significant costs. i am still not too sure if one more year in the lottery, if that was where we fell, wouldnt have been a lesser cost and maybe even a good thing instead of paying bibby so much and restricting cash for other needs. the end deal hurt us dramatically as well. i prefer not to put bibby in too good a light though it wasnt his fault what they paid him while he was here and what they paid up to get rid of him; anymore than it is marvin’s fault he was chosen so high and given a gift of a contract he didnt have to negotiate one iota as a rfa. this is a whole lot better expenditure and how the next choice of coach will be equally interesting, a beginner model or one with no training wheels attached.

Mike

June 26th, 2012
11:36 am

Plus they can throw in future picks if need it. I think Danny Ferry first thing that he is doing is talking to Josh right now to see what is his plans.

MsDee

June 26th, 2012
11:36 am

Just curious, someone explain to me how getting both Josh AND Dwight is a good idea for the Rockets if both contracts are up after next season? Do they really think both Josh and Dwight will sign an extension there??

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:37 am

“Only one team will win the championship next season. Should OKC blow up there squad since they fell short? It is crazy for everyone to say trade Josh for a couple of draft picks. I say build around your strongest players and fill in with role players.”

I like Josh a lot, but let’s be real, Kevin Durant is WAY better than Josh. Nobody on this team is good enough to “build around” like Durant is. I am generally in favor of keeping Josh and finding a way to acquire a superior player so that Josh becomes a 2nd or 3rd option, if possible. But if not, there’s nobody on this team who is untouchable in a trade.

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
11:39 am

ESPN reporing the Rockets want D12’s buddy, Josh.

And the Rockets just picked up #18 from Minny for Buddinger. If Buddinger, a former 2nd rounder is worth a #1, then what is Josh worth?

This could get interesting..the Rockets now have 14/16/& 18 and are ready to rid themselves of Lowry and Dalembert too.

So their first agenda is D12, then Josh isn’t too far behind…..ballsy!

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:41 am

“Joe’s contract will make it hard to make big roster changes”

Which is why I keep saying they need to trade him for cap space regardless of how they have to do it.

Ray

June 26th, 2012
11:42 am

They might want Josh, but he probably won’t re-sign with them cause D12 isn’t going to stay with the Rockets.

Ray

June 26th, 2012
11:43 am

@ MsDee

Either that is there plan or it’s a great way to disguise we’re actually blowing this up basically.

Ray

June 26th, 2012
11:44 am

Mean to say that is what they hope and if not it’s a great way to disguise themselves as this is our blowing up and rebuild process.

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
11:45 am

Does anyone really think Josh’s game really fits under the Ferry/SA model? I think he wants someone who makes his teammates better with less mistakes.
I can see Josh moving as the 1st pawn to fall. Joe and Marvin will require much more work.

Watch out Teague; you may be a trump card in any deal.

With Duncan being the ONLY lottery pick on that roster, Ferry may be thinking there is plenty of talent down int he draft.

I would prefer he go young and get some shooters to open the middle for our big men. Two names: Meeks and Bledsoe might be 2 youth guys to shoot for.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:45 am

“You seem upset at my Vick comment, I only asked because it seems like every single person I’ve talked to who turned on the Falcons are the upset Vick fans. They will never accept Ryan because he is not Vick.”

“Upset” is a strong word. More like “mildly annoyed”. If there is a legitimate criticism available of someone, it is unwarranted to assume that someone is offering criticism because of some hidden bias. It’s no different than assuming anyone who doesn’t like Josh’s jumpshots is just a hater.

If anything “upsets” me it is that my Giants fan friend has been talking sh-t to me nonstop since January and there isn’t a damn thing I can say back to him because this team continues to embarrass itself in the playoffs year after year. I hate seeing New York teams succeed.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:48 am

Tiger Woods is 50% Asian and 25% Black. Just saying…

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:50 am

doc, Bibby trade cost us nothing as I recall… Wasn’t it a bunch of expiring deals and throw-away players? Most GMs trade draft picks that don’t workout. It happens several times a year that a player still on their rookie contract gets moved for a better fit for the team.

Just Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:51 am

My guess is Houston thinks its worth a shot. If Josh and Dwight walk, then they’ll start over with a ton of cap space, or either will receive something back by way of sign-and-trade deals for both players. I admire their supposed willingness to trade mid-level players and picks for superstars.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:51 am

“Just curious, someone explain to me how getting both Josh AND Dwight is a good idea for the Rockets if both contracts are up after next season? Do they really think both Josh and Dwight will sign an extension there??”

It is a smart gamble on their part. They get both for one season and hope big things result. The thing is, even if both leave, it still leaves the Rockets with a better chance at acquiring a superstar (by sucking and getting a high draft pick) than if they maintain the status quo. Right now they are a 7 or 8 seed and nothing more.

Kind of like how the Hawks are a 4 or 5 seed and nothing more, and would be smart to try something similar themselves. Joe + Al for Dwight, team Dwight and Josh here for one year together, hope they both want to re-sign, and if they don’t, you still get to tank for a season and get a shot at a superstar.

Can’t build a title contender without superstars. Daryl Morey (the Rockets’ GM) understands this. Hopefully Danny Ferry does too.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:53 am

“doc, Bibby trade cost us nothing as I recall”

Cost them their 2008 first round pick. Still a good trade in my opinion, since it vaulted them from lottery team to playoff team. The only mistake they made with Bibby was giving him a guaranteed third year when they re-signed him.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 26th, 2012
11:54 am

^Never mind, I f-cked up. The Hawks lost their ‘08 first rounder as part of the Joe Johnson deal. Only their second rounder went to Sacramento in the Bibby deal. Even better.

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:54 am

Mewlvin, not only do I disagree, but I don;t see Ferry spending over $35M long-term on Howard and Smith. IMO, neither are #1 scoring options on an ECF team.

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:55 am

Oops, Melvin…

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
11:58 am

Yeah, like I said, cost us nothing.

Hoosierhawk

June 26th, 2012
12:05 pm

Josh for Lowry, Dalembert, a 1st. Even if it is just a swap of our 1st for one of their lower 1sts.

Just Joe

June 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

Hawks tipping their draft preference? Bringing back several “shooters” for second workout. Lamb and Jenkins. Also Fournier (my guess), Miller, and English.

MsDee

June 26th, 2012
12:13 pm

Najeh, “Joe + Al for Dwight, team Dwight and Josh here for one year together, hope they both want to re-sign, and if they don’t, you still get to tank for a season and get a shot at a superstar.”

Now I would take that gamble anyday cause even though they would be here for only 1 year, I believe a squad with Teague, Josh, & Dwight will make for a great case for both Josh and Dwight to stay plus being best friends and from ATL helps as well.

MsDee

June 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

If Ferry could pull that one out of his sleeves, he will instantly become Exec of the Year..even if both Josh and Howard still decides to leave.

doc

June 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

bibby cost us huge when it came to salary and that is what i was saying, money not picks. folks overlook he is still maybe the highest paid hawks in the 21st century for one year at $17 mil. i dont think jj has exceeded that and we rant on about how much over paid he was. it affected our ability to find other players to fill some much needed gaps and kept woody’s bench very short. then we signed him for 6 mil a season for three more years so sund wouldnt have to work.

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

Chad Ford puts the following players in the vicinity of where the Hawks will select (~18-25).

Tier 5
Moe Harkless
Fab Melo
Quincy Miller
Arnett Moultrie
Andrew Nicholson
Marquis Teague
Royce White
Tony Wroten Jr.

Note: This next group looks like locks for the first round, but most likely won’t make the lottery. A few teams had Harkless, Melo and Moultrie in Tier 4 but not quite enough for them to make the cut. Wroten and Miller were borderline picks here. Both players dropped out of the top 30 on at least one NBA team’s draft board

MsDee

June 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

Draft a SF @23 in place of Marvin and backup PG @43

Melvin

June 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

I don’t like any of the Rockets players. Most of them are mediocre or below avg at best. I’m only interested in their draft picks and cap space to dump a unwanted contract (Joe Johnson). Unless they could flip those picks to move up into the top 10, no way i would consider sending any of our (so called) big 3 players to them.

On another note, I think it would be very wise if the Hawks remain patient and keep their eye on next year (2013) draft that should have more franchise type players then this year (2012) draft. 2013 draft should be loaded with big men and Shabazz Muhammad may be the next great wing player.

MsDee

June 26th, 2012
12:24 pm

I like Moe Harkless at @23 if he falls that far..doubt it tho

Astro Joe

June 26th, 2012
12:25 pm

doc, we were a perennial lottery team without Bibby. Any bench help would have likely been overpaid scrubs. That big Bibby contlasted 18 months. And his first full year with the Hawks was probably the best year we’ve had from a PG since the Mookie days. It ended really badly but that shouldn’t detract from how he (along with Al’s arrival) got us from a sub .500 team to something approaching respectability.

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

I hear alot about Harkless, but I don’t see the reasoning, especially if we’re talking about LD doing the leading.
If you bring in Harkless, you’re getting nothing this year and you’re giving him a 5 year deal.
I look at 23 for a guy who had success at a high level. Perhaps Lamb or Jenkins would be good if we need to start developing a shooter.
If you move a PF or 2, then go with Royce White and roll the dice. He might be a matchup nightmare.
cp has shown that if we get a better 2nd rounder, we can get our combo guard or shooter if we go for a bigger need in Round 1. I might agree to that.

Moving Josh would be huge for our draft potential. You think Ferry has a couple of favs in this draft?

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
12:49 pm

“Just Joe

June 26th, 2012
12:07 pm
Hawks tipping their draft preference? Bringing back several “shooters” for second workout. Lamb and Jenkins. Also Fournier (my guess), Miller, and English.”

I know Joe there’s a new guy in charge, but would you risk trying to get something out of Fournier? How much info is there on him? Is he NBA ready? The Hawks and frenchmen haven’t exactly worked out in recent history. And to give a Fournier 5 years at that?

KevinM

June 26th, 2012
12:58 pm

Rockets offered 14/16/ and Lowry to Sacramento for 5th/Tyreke.

I’m not doing that deal if I’m Sac, but if Tyreke is going to be used incorrectly in Sac, then you better get him out of there.

Me, go give up Josh to Sac for their #5, and get us Drummond or Barnes.

Just Joe

June 26th, 2012
1:06 pm

KevinM….I would not take a chance on Fournier, but I think Ferry might. The reasoning might be that he’s a scorer, not just a shooter.

Rufus1

June 26th, 2012
1:06 pm

Trade rumors are smoking….It is time to let Josh.

I thought the rumors about the Rockets #16 pick was Josh. If we could trade Josh for the 16th pick and Dalembert’s contract(1.5mil buyout)= 1st rd pick and 13.2mil of the books($47mil team salary)=$11mil in cap space for free agents

#16= Terrance Ross or Royce White or Perry Jones
#23= Nicholson or Jeff Taylor or Doron Lamb or Ezeli or Sullinger
#43= Kyle O’Quinn or Kevin Murphy

5mil> to Andrea Miller or Jason Kid
6mil> to JJ Hickson or Jordan Hill or Spencer Hawes or Jason Thompson or Lavoy Allen

WE WOULD BE A FAR BETTER TEAM NEXT YEAR…

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ryan

June 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

I agree trade Josh Smith for top 5 pick he is our best value i think D12 ends up with Nets Howard wants bigtime Hollywood or New York Houston is dreaming to think there getting D12 .

O'Brien

June 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

KevinM,

Does anyone really think Josh’s game really fits under the Ferry/SA model? I think he wants someone who makes his teammates better with less mistakes..

Josh does make his teammates better (imo). Teague is the one guy (imo) who would benefit greatly if Josh would give up the ball on the break.

And if Danny Ferry uses advanced statistics, it wont take him long to realize he needs to talk to LD about Josh’s jumpers and 3’s, and his turnovers in transition.