Atlanta Hawks: Prospect focus: Michigan State’s Draymond Green

The book on Draymond Green says he’s a high-energy, high-character banger with a long wingspan and soft hands. He’s a good passer, solid shooter and strong rebounder.

“I like him a lot,” Larry Drew said. “All of his intangibles he brings to the table, he is going to make someone a fine player. I don’t think there are enough players like him, that bring a little bit of everything to the table. He is certainly that type player, that caliber [of] player.”

Still, Green is 6-7, not very athletic and 22-years old. That means he’s probably too small to be a banger in the NBA, may not suited to play on the wing and probably isn’t going to get a whole lot better.

Green makes the case that being a four-year college player gives him an edge in maturity, both mentally and physically. He said that’s how he managed to be one of the best post players in D1 basketball in spite of his limitations.

“Every year I’ve learned to use my body more against guys with more length,” he said. “Just figuring out the little niches and the things you have to do. That just comes with more experience. I feel I will be a lot more mature [than younger rookies].”

Green said some teams have told him they like him as a wing, others say he can play power forward.

“Whenever I fit it in,” he said. “I just want to play, no matter what position. When I get out there on the court, I will find a way.”

Drew believes Green will find a way to make it in the league.

“If you look around the league you start to see more and more undersized guys playing at different positions,” Drew said. “A guy that has a great work ethic will always have a spot on a team. He certainly fits that profile.

“He’s a guy that can make shots. You can post him down low. He’s a good defensive player. He’s great at making plays. He averaged over three assists a game.

“He brings a lot to the table. He’s a tremendous kid. Great attitude. He’s the type of player that I think a coach would enjoy coaching. I think he’s going to have a terrific career.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

169 comments Add your comment

Cwebb

June 21st, 2012
12:06 pm

FirstEnter your comments here

cp

June 21st, 2012
12:09 pm

Yea im not a big fan of Green. Dude is a un athletic tweener. Good player but I would rather the Hawks take someone else.

Marcus

June 21st, 2012
12:10 pm

uhhh… I got Joe Johnson’s jersey No. 1… maybe.

Astro Joe

June 21st, 2012
12:10 pm

Great attitude. He’s the type of player that I think a coach would enjoy coaching. I think he’s going to have a terrific career.”

Hawks have plenty of these kind of players.

Adam

June 21st, 2012
12:22 pm

Isn’t this the guy with bad knees that has a projected short playing career?

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
12:25 pm

Hawks Draft

#23 Fab Melo

#43 Eric Griffin

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adam

June 21st, 2012
12:25 pm

My mistake, the risky draft choice is Jared Sullinger from Ohio State. The big 10 players all look alike to me.

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
12:27 pm

http://youtu.be/D1gpQTUJgsQ

Perfict Fit for the Hawks

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
12:33 pm

http://youtu.be/XnbYDmZHi00

Pick #43 would not be a reach for this guy could become a steal.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheFalcon

June 21st, 2012
12:40 pm

Ummm.. why are we focusing on a non-athletic non-banger? What?? The Hawks need to focus on getting someone better than this!!! Geez.. KEEP JOSH SMITH!!!

Ra'mon

June 21st, 2012
12:41 pm

MsDee, I’m not saying I’m against drafting a point guard. I’m saying I think that was O’B was saying. Personally, I just want the best player who can get the most playing time for the Hawks in the next 3-4 seasons while making an impact.

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
12:43 pm

Eric Griffin his Jr, year

AVG 22POINTS

AVG 7 REBOUNDS

AVG 3 BPG

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

http://youtu.be/y5rszOSzxk4

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just Joe

June 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

Green is a favorite of mine, but 23 is too early. Move up in the second round if he’s the guy you want. Just make sure you get in front of Detroit in the second round. I can’t see them passing him over, even if they have bigger needs.

Didn’t this man step up with some triple-doubles in the NCAA tournament? Great bench guy & locker room leader.

Lon Stotts

June 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

Sounds a lot like Ivan. Every team needs a player like Draymond, an undersized 4/5 that gets by on hustle and tenacity (B Bass, D Blair, Hansbrough, etc) and the Hawks already have theirs.

Just stick with Ivan.

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
12:47 pm

Eric Griffin dunk of the year

http://youtu.be/WLNrnRT4nps

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just Joe

June 21st, 2012
12:49 pm

Green is more of a 3/4 than a 4/5. He’s got point-forward skills. Brought the ball up the court for Mich St at times. He’d fit nicely next to Ivan on the bench. It would be awesome to have those two bringing it off the bench each night.

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
12:54 pm

Draymond Green is not a need here.
Quincy Miller is not a need.
Jared Sullinger is not a need.

Get us a combo guard or a goal defender.

Lon Stotts

June 21st, 2012
12:59 pm

I hear you, Just Joe. The things I look for in bench/role players are guys that bring energy and can create their own shot. Green has plenty of energy, and a solid offensive game, and if he replaces anybody on the team it should be…. QUACK!!!

Maybe not as good of a spot-up shooter as Marv– that’s about it– but he knows his role and tends to stick to it (something Hawks players traditionally struggle with). And I don’t think he would fumble the ball off his foot/fall down every time he drives to the basket.

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
1:02 pm

If there is a team that can do a deal, its New Orleans. They have a lot of cap room and they are very young…perhaps too young.
Davis and Gordon, and then they need a vet.

How good would a Josh or Al look beside Anthony Davis? They actually have a need for PF, something we have an overage of.

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

Ebs

June 21st, 2012
1:09 pm

Draymond Green is an underrated player. He helped lead a young Spartans team deep into the NCAA tourni. Who the Hawks should draft is Fab Melo in the first round and someone like Jae Crowder or even Scott Machado in the second round. Melo was Big East DPOY this past season and Crowder was dominant for Marquette. And even Machado is an underrated point guard as well.

Hawks 2012-2013 Lineup:

Teague, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Fab Melo

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
1:17 pm

My Top 5 Favorite Movie of all time The Book of Eli

http://youtu.be/ODOy2dGMBhM

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just Joe

June 21st, 2012
1:24 pm

My concern with Melo is that he played zone exclusively at Syracuse. He just camped out in the lane. What’s he like as a man to man defender? How is his footwork?

darrell starks

June 21st, 2012
1:28 pm

DS

June 21st, 2012
1:35 pm

Josh for Tyreke Evans and the 5th, will probably have to take on Salmons but its ok. Draft Drummond with the 5th and Wrotten with the 23rd and you have:
1st unit: Teague, Evans, JJ, Horford, Drummond
2nd unit: Wrotten, Salmons, Marvin, Ivan, Zaza

Buddy Grizzard

June 21st, 2012
1:37 pm

Please draft somebody who has an NBA position.

tyger

June 21st, 2012
1:38 pm

1st Domino has fallen…

The Wiz just made the playoffs…
They locked down the low post w Nene, Okafor…
And still hold the #3 pick…Barnes, Lamb, Rivers???

They could still trade down…or out for a vet swingman…
With Walls, Veseley, Seraphin, Crawford, Singleton…
They have assets…

Really like Hawks workout invitees…
Draymond Green wont last until #23…
Neither will Quincy Miller…
John Jenkins in the 2nd round but
A couple of nice BIGs in second round…

What does talk of Jamal Crawford mean for Teague?
Jamal Crawford/Ray Allen – sounds good but doubtful…
JJ slides to SF enough to make it work but…doubt it…

But one thing for sure, the talk of Crawford, Allen, Green…
Tells us that Hawks looking for ballhandling scorers…
Raw size, speed and athleticism isnt good enough…
They need 5 toolers: Shoot, pass, dribble, rebound, defend…

Hard to run if star players cant go left or right…
Or take more than 3 dribbles without falling down…
Actually makes the case for re-signing Tracy McGrady…

Astro Joe

June 21st, 2012
1:41 pm

Kevin, Davis projects as a PF and I’m not sure that Josh would sign a long-term contract in new Orleans even if they offered him a max deal. He has endured one “build from the bottom” campaign, would he want to do it again?

You have to love it when folk decide that because a player has a similar body type, they are similar players. Green and Ivan are very, very different players and could complement each other.

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
1:51 pm

AJ, I do know Davis is a PF, but he’s not your average PF. He’s going to always be around the basket, and IMO, he would fit in well as a vet there because they are going to be so young. But I do think they would have a chance to resign him too….win-win for New Orleans because there is no long term commitment. I don’t see that as a negative.
Not sure what they have to offer though beside the #10.

Buddy Grizzard

June 21st, 2012
1:52 pm

“I think Hawks have greater needs than a backup PG. If you could play Marquis and Jeff in the backcourt together than I would be ok with drafting the younger brother but I dont think either are big enough to play SG and their skill sets are similar (speed/quickness of the dribble) therefore I would rather look to draft a player that fills a position of need.”

Assuming the Hawks retain Ivan Johnson (and with the very safe assumption that T-Mac will take his talents elsewhere), and without consideration for washed up vets like Willie Green, Jannero Pargo, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Collins and Erick Dampier, the Hawks’ depth chart among players under contract plus Ivan looks like this:

Center:

Al Horford
Zaza Pachulia
Ivan Johnson

Power forward:

Josh Smith
Al Horford
Zaza Pachulia
Ivan Johnson

Small forward:

Marvin Williams
Joe Johnson
Josh Smith
Ivan Johnson

Shooting guard:

Joe Johnson
Jeff Teague

Point guard:

Jeff Teague

Would somebody tell me what greater need we have than backup point guard?

Najeh Davenpoop

June 21st, 2012
2:01 pm

Drafting for need in the NBA is a recipe for disaster. Pick the best player available. I have no idea if Green is that guy or not, but the Hawks shouldn’t be looking at specific positions, especially when this core is at most a year away from being blown up.

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
2:04 pm

Buddy, makes sense to me, and I think Doron Lamb gives you more SG than PG, but he can play both if needed. Plus, he’s 6′5″ 199 and he has looked good in his workouts. He simply shoots the ball very well and has a good handle. I just hope Boston overlooks him with their 2 picks.
They need to replace Allen, and Lamb IMO is ready to contribute after 2 very successful years at UK.

I like Teague Jr. too, but he is all PG. LD looks for a guy to play multiple positions.

My money is on Wil Barton (Memphis) or Lamb to fit on our roster the best at 23.

Melvin

June 21st, 2012
2:05 pm

Green is too similiar to Ivan. He’s not a need for the Hawks. Ivan has proven he can play at this level. I prefer to see the Hawks draft a wing guy like Quincy Miller.

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
2:06 pm

Easiest position to fill in the NBA and the heaviest talent in this draft is PF.

That’s the last thing we need, but I bet we take one anyway.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 21st, 2012
2:07 pm

The goal with the #23 pick should be to get a player who will develop to the point where his trade value is greater than that of a #23 pick.

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
2:10 pm

Trade of the week: Give me Luke Walton for Marvin…….what else do we have to give to convince them? Get us out of that player option. Then have Sund or Pendergraft lie to us about how important it is to acquire a Walton.

Buddy Grizzard

June 21st, 2012
2:16 pm

If we had drafted for need in 2005, would that have been a disaster? Drafting for “potential” is a recipe for disaster (think Marvin Williams, Tony Wroten). If Teague lasts until 23, I have little doubt he will be the best player available. The fact that he fills a position of need is a happy coincidence if he falls that far.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 21st, 2012
2:35 pm

“If we had drafted for need in 2005, would that have been a disaster? ”

Different situation, because drafting for need in that case would have been the same as drafting the best player available. Obviously if you do a poor job evaluating talent, your “best player available” selection isn’t actually going to be the best player available. I am just saying that they shouldn’t pass up on Player X just because he plays the same position as Teague or Al or Josh or Joe.

And drafting the best player available isn’t necessarily the same thing as drafting on potential. Every draft pick is at least partly drafted based on potential anyway.

kwooden

June 21st, 2012
2:35 pm

My drafts order is still Jeffery Taylor, Fab Melo, Moe Harkless, Terrence Jones, Perry Jones. If one of those guys aren’t available at 23, then someone better must have dropped and they can pick them up.

GO HAWKS!!

KevinM

June 21st, 2012
2:36 pm

Buddy, if there were ever 2 guys who played a similar style, it would be the Teague brothers.

I would be okay with that decision if they don’t go for a shooter.

GMEL

June 21st, 2012
2:42 pm

The Draft will not save the Hawks. They need serious rework starting with trading Joe Johnson. After OKC losoes they should offer up Johnson for Harden. We need to rid ourselves of his overbloated salary

Najeh Davenpoop

June 21st, 2012
2:45 pm

If 2005 shows the dangers of drafting for potential, 2006 shows the dangers of drafting for need. Shelden Williams was an even more indefensible pick than Marvin because nobody had him rated as a top 10 player. The Hawks picked him only because Billy Knight needed his Ben Wallace to complete his Pistons South experiment.

msc

June 21st, 2012
2:47 pm

LD just loves everyone lol hopefully we dont just pick someone up that he gets along with the best.

Melvin

June 21st, 2012
3:05 pm

Najeh,

There is one connection between the 2005 and 2006 drafts, its Billy Knight. Heck, he missed on all his lottery picks (2004-07) except Horford. 2004- Chills over Deng and Iggy, 2005 Marvin over CP3 and Deron, 2006 Shelden over Gay and Roy, 2007 Law over Stuckey. I’m glad he’s not picking for the Hawks anymore.

doc

June 21st, 2012
3:08 pm

buddy it was a disaster when we drafted for need and immediate help and it was shelhead. kind of did the same with chills.

cp

June 21st, 2012
3:25 pm

I dont see how adding two average at best vets is going to get the Wizards in the playoffs. Okafur and Ariza havent done anything in the past few years thats going to push the Wizards in the playoffs. The Wizards were terrible last year and will probably be in the lotto again this up coming season. They have a GM that makes me appreciate Sund.

cp

June 21st, 2012
3:27 pm

And why would Jamal start? If he came back he would go back to his same role. smh

northcyde

June 21st, 2012
3:32 pm

It’s not about drafting for need or potential. You simply have to pick the right dude that will fit your team.

MsDee

June 21st, 2012
3:46 pm

northcyde,

That is what “need” means in your statement.

Astro Joe

June 21st, 2012
4:40 pm

In his rookie season, Marquis at best will play around 12-16 minutes/game. In his second year with the Hawks, he will play at best around 12-16 minutes/game. in his third season with the hawks (assuming that no one believes that he is by now the best under-used PG in the league), he will play around 12-16 minutes/game.

Meanwhile, Josh and Zaza have expiring contracts in about 375 days. We don’t have a long-term scorer off the bench. We don’t have a shot-blocker off the bench. We don’t have a solid wing defender nor someone who could push Marvin in the next year or so.

So with all of that said, yeah, drafting a back-up PG remains fairly low on my list of priorities/needs for this team. That need can easily be addressed in free agency.