Atlanta Hawks: On Josh Smith’s future

Before Josh Smith started his summer vacation, he was asked about the possibility of signing a contract extension with the Hawks.

“I can’t get extended,” Smith said. “They didn’t give me the money; I had to go get it. That’s something I have to play it out and see how it goes from there.”

Two things stand out about that statement. The first is that Smith, who presumably got the info from his agent, is wrong about his contract not being eligible for an extension.

I looked at Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ and could see no reason why Smith is not eligible for an extension. It’s been at least three years since he signed the deal, it’s never been renegotiated and it doesn’t include an opt-in. I checked with Coon and he confirmed the Hawks can extend Smith’s deal (they actually have been able to do so since August).

But the more interesting aspect of Smith’s statement is his allusion to having to “go get” his contract. He’s referring, of course, to the offer sheet he signed with Memphis in 2008, which Atlanta subsequently matched. (The Hawks can thank the Grizzlies for being able to keep Smith with a reasonable deal.)

It bothers Smith he had to create a market for himself to get a satisfactory contract from the Hawks (though at least he didn’t have to leave the country like Josh Childress). Smith’s feelings were amplified when Al Horford got an extension before becoming a restricted free agent. So add that 2008 contract dance to Smith’s list of grievances with the Hawks.

The question now is whether Smith can be persuaded to sign an extension with the Hawks. My educated guess is Smith won’t do it. The Hawks may be able to make Smith feel more appreciated with their public comments, but what can can do about Smith’s main gripe, that they aren’t committed to winning a championship?

It seems unlikely the Hawks will even spend the full mid-level on a free agent. Remember what happened after Smith, Horford and Joe Johnson called on the Hawks to make some major moves during training camp? The Hawks ended up signing an assortment of minimum-salaried free agents, with two of those players on non-guaranteed deals.

Nor do trades look like a very promising way to placate Smith. Any deal that involves sending away Horford could leave as many holes as it covers. If trading Johnson is possible, it almost certainly means taking back another burdensome contract.

Zaza Pachulia and Jeff Teague are assets because they are productive players with reasonable contracts. But those are also good reasons to keep them. As for Marvin Williams, there hasn’t been a market for him for going on three years now.

The irony is that one of the best ways for the Hawks to bring in a major piece is to trade Smith. His production, experience and expiring contract make him an attractive target. So does the sense that he’s still yet to fully reach his potential, though that’s a reality that cuts both ways for the Hawks.

Are the Hawks beyond hoping Smith can become a superstar for them? How much is he worth? If the Hawks don’t think they can persuade Smith to commit beyond next season, do they aggressively try to trade him before the deadline or risk losing him for nothing next summer?

I’m genuinely interested to see how all that plays out. The Hawks have a recent history of overvaluing their own players. Michael Gearon Jr. does have a deep appreciation for Smith, even if Smith doesn’t think Gearon or his partners have done enough to show it.

For his part, Smith deflected questions about his standing trade request, noting that he could be fined for talking about it. But he didn’t sound as if he expects to be traded in the offseason.

“All I know is I have one more year on my contract so I will definitely be here,” he said. “I just have to go into the offseason to better myself and do whatever I have to do to help this ballclub. I was an Atlanta Hawk after the trade deadline and I’m one now, so I have to look at some of the things I can do to help my basketball team win ballgames, especially in the postseason.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

1,015 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

May 30th, 2012
4:15 pm

I have no problem with changing the mix as long as it results in a sensible mix of players who complement each other and results in greater flexibility to improve the roster going forward — which is why I don’t have a problem with Just Joe’s three-way Josh for Noah trade.

Melvin

May 30th, 2012
4:22 pm

Astro,

Look at the list of quality coaches that the Bobcats interviewed and they was the worst team in basketball history last season. As a Hawks fan, it makes me want to cry to see LD over there on the sideline when we basically have a top 10 talent team with an asst coach pretending to be a head coach.

cp

May 30th, 2012
4:22 pm

@Kevin. I didnt see as much as I would have liked but dude has a lot of potential. I think its just going to take some time. He is a good rebounder and defender but he has to work on his shooting. I think he got overlooked a lot this year because his team wasnt very good.

@Slim. Here is a good video breakdown of Wroten. Its rumored the Hawks really like him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbS62r2fP9k&list=PLB767D5FCB08E26C0&index=2&feature=plpp_video

Rod from College Park

May 30th, 2012
4:31 pm

Keep Killin them High-sider.

High-sider

May 30th, 2012
4:36 pm

DawgNole
May 30th, 2012
12:13 pm

Buddy Grizzard
May 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

“Don’t forget about Dan Dickau, Dennis Nutt, Steve Alford, Craig “Noodle” Neal, Jay Burson [undrafted - Ohio St. Univ.], Brooks “Bubba” Jennings [undrafted - TX Tech. Univ.], Jim Les, Kyle Macy, Jon Sundvold, Brent Price, Scott Brooks, Bryce Drew, Jerry Sichting, and others.”

LMAO. Yes I’m sure the teams drafting these players spent millions trying to market them as the next great white star. I wonder why it didn’t work for them but the white hype machine worked for Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki?
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Because Nash and Nowitzki had superstar talent; the others did not.

As an aside, Nash and Nowitzki are not U.S.-born. And it is this category–U.S.-born white superstars in the NBA–that is virtually nonexistent anymore. For what it’s worth.
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Add Brook Steppe, Jim Farmer, Billy Donovan and Mark Gottfried to the list of “Great ____ Hopes.”

Astro Joe

May 30th, 2012
4:36 pm

Melvin, let’s wait and see who they actually hire. The ASG interviewed Avery Johnson, even though that was mostly done as a commercial of sorts. MJ may end up hiring his former HS coach.

Astro Joe

May 30th, 2012
4:36 pm

But yes, I wish we had a big time coach on our sideline.

High-sider

May 30th, 2012
4:37 pm

Rod from College Park
May 30th, 2012
4:31 pm

Keep Killin them High-sider.
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Thanks, man.

rollow lawson

May 30th, 2012
4:43 pm

Josh Smith needs/wants to be coached and have a front office/ownership that’s committed to winning a championship. Instead, Hawks fans and Josh are stuck with a lily-livered, gutless coach and cheap-skate owners. Josh Smith is going to bolt and I don’t blame him. This ownership group would not last one minute in a real sports town like Boston, New York, or Chicago. They get away with this crap because we (fans) and local t.v. and print media let them. They went cheap on the bench last offseason and it burned them big-time in the playoffs. Nobody wanted to step up, save TMac, but Drew hates him, lol!!! I’m sick of this crap.

O"Brien

May 30th, 2012
4:44 pm

northcyde,

Would you trade Josh for a top 5 pick?

AJ,

Would you trade JJ and Marvin to Washington for Blatche and Lewis

rollow lawson

May 30th, 2012
4:48 pm

Did anyone see Popovich eating Tony Parkers lunch with his team riding a 20 game win streak up by 13 in the 3rd quarter? What I wouldn’t give for that kind of coach. Jerry Sloan would have had this team in the ECF. Hell, Doug Collins would have us playing the Heat right now!!

High-sider

May 30th, 2012
4:49 pm

@Dawg

“Reading all of this Jamal makes me feel like I am in the twilight zone…” – Dawg, May 30th, 2012, 2:21pm

You are [in the Twilight Zone].

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU

Astro Joe

May 30th, 2012
4:56 pm

OB, absolutely not. Blatche is a knucklehead who produces every 5th game and Rashard is a modern day Brad Sellers but less healthy at this point. Neither are as productive as Marvin and they are paid far more.

Get me Pau Gasol. A top 5 6′11″ or taller player in the NBA. If he is available, make that a priority. Cap flexibility? In the next 2 years, it is highly unlikely that cap flexibility will deliver a player better than Gasol. If the ultimate goal is to improve the roster (by trade, FA signing, cap flexibility, draft picks, cloning or whatever), there is very little risk with a premier big man with only 2 years left on his contract.

Astro Joe

May 30th, 2012
4:58 pm

Rashard is paid far more, Blatche about the same (as Marvin).

I’d rather see the Hawks bring back RandMo and Antoine Walker than have Lewis & Blatche join the team.

Michael Cunningham

May 30th, 2012
4:58 pm

new blog posted. shutting down this thread.