Atlanta Hawks: On Josh Smith’s future
Before Josh Smith started his summer vacation, he was asked about the possibility of signing a contract extension with the Hawks.
“I can’t get extended,” Smith said. “They didn’t give me the money; I had to go get it. That’s something I have to play it out and see how it goes from there.”
Two things stand out about that statement. The first is that Smith, who presumably got the info from his agent, is wrong about his contract not being eligible for an extension.
I looked at Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ and could see no reason why Smith is not eligible for an extension. It’s been at least three years since he signed the deal, it’s never been renegotiated and it doesn’t include an opt-in. I checked with Coon and he confirmed the Hawks can extend Smith’s deal (they actually have been able to do so since August).
But the more interesting aspect of Smith’s statement is his allusion to having to “go get” his contract. He’s referring, of course, to the offer sheet he signed with Memphis in 2008, which Atlanta subsequently matched. (The Hawks can thank the Grizzlies for being able to keep Smith with a reasonable deal.)
It bothers Smith he had to create a market for himself to get a satisfactory contract from the Hawks (though at least he didn’t have to leave the country like Josh Childress). Smith’s feelings were amplified when Al Horford got an extension before becoming a restricted free agent. So add that 2008 contract dance to Smith’s list of grievances with the Hawks.
The question now is whether Smith can be persuaded to sign an extension with the Hawks. My educated guess is Smith won’t do it. The Hawks may be able to make Smith feel more appreciated with their public comments, but what can can do about Smith’s main gripe, that they aren’t committed to winning a championship?
It seems unlikely the Hawks will even spend the full mid-level on a free agent. Remember what happened after Smith, Horford and Joe Johnson called on the Hawks to make some major moves during training camp? The Hawks ended up signing an assortment of minimum-salaried free agents, with two of those players on non-guaranteed deals.
Nor do trades look like a very promising way to placate Smith. Any deal that involves sending away Horford could leave as many holes as it covers. If trading Johnson is possible, it almost certainly means taking back another burdensome contract.
Zaza Pachulia and Jeff Teague are assets because they are productive players with reasonable contracts. But those are also good reasons to keep them. As for Marvin Williams, there hasn’t been a market for him for going on three years now.
The irony is that one of the best ways for the Hawks to bring in a major piece is to trade Smith. His production, experience and expiring contract make him an attractive target. So does the sense that he’s still yet to fully reach his potential, though that’s a reality that cuts both ways for the Hawks.
Are the Hawks beyond hoping Smith can become a superstar for them? How much is he worth? If the Hawks don’t think they can persuade Smith to commit beyond next season, do they aggressively try to trade him before the deadline or risk losing him for nothing next summer?
I’m genuinely interested to see how all that plays out. The Hawks have a recent history of overvaluing their own players. Michael Gearon Jr. does have a deep appreciation for Smith, even if Smith doesn’t think Gearon or his partners have done enough to show it.
For his part, Smith deflected questions about his standing trade request, noting that he could be fined for talking about it. But he didn’t sound as if he expects to be traded in the offseason.
“All I know is I have one more year on my contract so I will definitely be here,” he said. “I just have to go into the offseason to better myself and do whatever I have to do to help this ballclub. I was an Atlanta Hawk after the trade deadline and I’m one now, so I have to look at some of the things I can do to help my basketball team win ballgames, especially in the postseason.”
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High-sider
May 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
@Buddy Grizzard
“…Come on dude. Green and Pargo are Jamal Crawford 2.0, streak shooters who can shoot you in or out of a game who can’t guard anybody. The players who made the Hawks back court better in the absence of JC1 was Kirk, a break-even defender who shot better than any reserve wing against the Celtics. Drew should have played Teague, Hinrich, Joe and T-Mac all available minutes at 1 and 2…” – Buddy Grizzard
Kirk Hinrich had an aggregate +/- of -17 in the 2012 playoffs [postseason]. You call that being “a break-even defender.” I don’t smoke weed even though my screen name/handle is High-sider but are you, Buddy G, smoking anything? Hey, Buddy G, does the “G” stand for gram because you be smokin’ by the gram [or a gram a time] [sic]?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/plus_minus_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&output=total&year_min=2012&year_max=2012&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=ATL&opp_id=&game_num_min=1&game_num_max=6&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=ge&c4val=&order_by=diff_pts
doc
May 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
could we only hope the spurs could trash the heat like this?
abh isnt it?
doc
May 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
sweeeeet!
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
Terrance Jones Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rZVHFkh2W0
6′8″ left hander with a decent handle..Nice!
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
OAK on a 8-0 run…
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
Hack a Shack! Great idea!
High-sider
May 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
@Grandad
Grandad
May 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
High-Sider
I`ve tried again to re-post
*I have re-worded
*tried to sneak one paragraph
*completely altered `most everything
-yet-
there is something within my message
that is offensive to the blgmnstr.
Even my sweet, gentle, wise, `though naive little wife of 40+ yrs.
could find nuthin` offensive.
-and-
I offend her daily, she`s an expert ! … -on bein` offended by me-
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FYI
Try posting your comment/response in pieces [or increments] – like four to six sentences at a time. [Put Part I, Part II, Part III, etc. after each (incremental) post.] That method worked for me when I had trouble posting a particular comment.
Old Man Peabody
May 29th, 2012
11:06 pm
I would be ashamed if I was a OKC fan, to see my team resort to this, already admitting they can’t win straight up. Anyways glad I betted all those suckers at the gym today cause after tonight no one will bet with the Thunder.
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
11:11 pm
OAK GOING SMALL BALL! BRILLIANT! Making a run!
BIG DOG
May 29th, 2012
11:12 pm
O O HERE THEY COME.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Buddy Grizzard
May 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
“Kirk Hinrich had an aggregate +/- of -17 in the 2012 playoffs [postseason]. You call that being “a break-even defender.””
I mentioned in the previous post that he was a break-even defender in 5 out of 6 games against the Celtics. He was -18 in the Game 4 blowout when every starter was at least -16. Take away that game and the Hawks broke even or better with Kirk on the floor in 5 out of 6 games. You only have to win 4 to advance. Sorry I forgot to include the 5 out of 6 games qualification in the last post, my bad.
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
Spurs in the penalty! Lead down to 8! Oak aint going away….
Rod from College Park
May 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
Slimjr,
“any man or women that belongs to the very secret Masonic lodge..[They are all segregated] [Jim Crow has not been buried yet unfortunately]..”
Just because one seeks the “light” does not make one racist.
Watch closely that ye may observe…and even so, what one may see, ye will understand it not!
Rod from College Park
May 29th, 2012
11:27 pm
“Take away that game and the Hawks broke even or better with Kirk on the floor in 5 out of 6 games.”
Problem is we can’t take it away, it actually happened.
Ra'mon
May 29th, 2012
11:27 pm
SteveW, HoopsHype is saying #2 is a toss up between Gilchrist, Drummond, and Robinson.
G’Dad, no one would’ve taken Wilkins over Terry Cummings either, but we see that worked out ok for us, lol. And Olajuwon went before MJ its all a gamble, unless you’re drafting Duncan or Lou Alcinder.
Buddy Grizzard
May 29th, 2012
11:31 pm
“Don’t forget about Dan Dickau, Dennis Nutt, Steve Alford, Craig “Noodle” Neal, Jay Burson [undrafted - Ohio St. Univ.], Brooks “Bubba” Jennings [undrafted - TX Tech. Univ.], Jim Les, Kyle Macy, Jon Sundvold, Brent Price, Scott Brooks, Bryce Drew, Jerry Sichting, and others.”
LMAO. Yes I’m sure the teams drafting these players spent millions trying to market them as the next great white star. I wonder why it didn’t work for them but the white hype machine worked for Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki?
“If Quincy Miller can get that explosiveness back he lost after that injury in high school then I think dude is going to be a steal in the early 20’s in the draft.” – cp
I’m with you here, but the Hawks need to figure out who their GM is and start conducting workouts. They don’t need to draft somebody sight-unseen like Otis Smith did Daniel Orton, when every other GM in the league saw him work out and knew he had a bad wheel.
High-sider
May 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
“Rick Bucher of ESPN is reporting that Marvin Williams has been traded to the Baghdad Camel Jockeys for 5 packs of smokes…” – Greg, May 26th, 2012,10:54pm
But you [bloggers] consider me to be “the racist” [on this blog]? [smh]
cp
May 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
@Buddy. From what I’ve read the Hawks wont even be working anybody out until the Chicago camp is over.
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
11:41 pm
Rod we have been lied too big time..
History, the Present, and the Future has been and is being rewritten to suppress much knowledge on the physical and beyond…
For instance: There are roughly 250 patents dealing with fuel injection technology as of 2008 that allow V8 gasoline engines to produce anywhere from 100 to over 200+ MPG..
.The deceiver…..Dude is no joke…
Buddy Grizzard
May 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
“I like Marshall too, but I dont trust LD coaching a rookie PG (especially with JJ still here).”
Not to mention the fact that Marshall took LD’s son’s starting job at North Carolina, resulting in LD II quitting on the team in the middle of an ACC title run.
“how come they can get these guys like leonard, splitter and bonner and they play like all star’s?”
Because the Hawks almost traded Zaza at the deadline last year because LD thought Josh Powell was a better player. Because the owners sue each other because they think they know so much about basketball. This organization wouldn’t know talent if the next Michael Jordan was dropped in their laps.
“We have PFs abundantly enough already and the easiest slot to fill on a roster. Go get us a shooter or a PG to solidify the backcourt going forward.” – KevinM
Hear! Hear! We’re also good at small forward, where Ivan, JJ and Marvin can all play. We either need a backup point, two or center. We’re set at forward even if Josh gets traded.
“Boris Diaw, another Woody casualty.” – doc
Diaw is a casualty of his own laziness. He’s only showing up for SA because expectations for him are so low and he can play off three players who can create their own offense. All he has to do is take open shots and feed the ball into the post. It’s a perfect world for him because he’s surrounded by so much talent, he doesn’t have to do much. Fits his game perfectly.
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
11:47 pm
insert[Past]
Buddy Grizzard
May 29th, 2012
11:49 pm
“Problem is we can’t take it away, it actually happened.”
Yeah, it happened, but that’s one loss. In 5 other games in the series, Kirk didn’t hurt the Hawks’ chances of winning. Green and Pargo hurt the Hawks chances of winning every single time they step on the floor. Are you putting Game 4 on Kirk Hinrich and using that as evidence that he hurts the team? Joe Johnson was a team-worst -21. Is it all his fault? No, the Celtics just had an unbelievable game shooting the ball. It happens sometimes. That’s why you have a 7-game series. It’s not single-elimination. And in 5 out of 6 games, the Hawks broke even or better with Hinrich on the floor. The Hawks did not break even or better with Jamal Crawford on the floor against Chicago, far from it.
Slimjr
May 29th, 2012
11:57 pm
With all of the forwards the Hawks have whats the one thing common with all of them?
No real go to post game! Especially in the half court game…They all resort to jump shots..Even the so called AllStar All Whatever…
So yes we could use a big who can really post up an attack the paint and get to the free throw line consistently… I’d take Andrew over those guards all day every day!
Rod from College Park
May 30th, 2012
12:03 am
The Hawks got out of the first round with Jamal Crawford. They lost in the first round this year without him. Kirk Hinrich neither helped not hurt the Hawks in the playoffs. He did nothing. He is known for his defense, and he had no effect on the series defensively. He has been a waste since he has been here. None of his so called basketball IQ has rubbed off on this team. He has accomplished nothing here but collect a paycheck.
Buddy Grizzard
May 30th, 2012
12:03 am
The idea of a 7 game series is that it’s not like the NCAA tournament where a team can get hot, string a few good shooting games together in a row and win the championship. In the NBA you have to grind out 4 wins against a team to advance.
The Hawks lost to the Celtics. Injuries hurt each team roughly equally, so for the sake of argument let’s say that was not the deciding factor. What was? Was the available talent for BOS so superior to the Hawks that ATL was overwhelmed? No, I believe the difference was coaching. Larry Drew was asked about the break down of his half court offense and he responded that he wanted the team to run more. Go back and read that sentence again. This is the playoffs, where everything slows down to a grind-it-out half court game. Larry Drew’s game plan? Let’s run the fast break!
Further, it was Drew’s personnel decisions that destroyed the Hawks’ chances of advancing. Collins was a complete joke after Game 1. Ivan didn’t shoot well and made mistakes on defensive coverage, but he was the only banger available with Zaza out. If LD had trusted him, Josh might not have hurt his knee banging in the post with KG. This series was lost due to LD’s COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE as an NBA coach, not because we didn’t have JC1 to chuck up a few shots.
Rod from College Park
May 30th, 2012
12:05 am
“.The deceiver…..Dude is no joke…”
The question is who is the deceiver? LOL
Buddy Grizzard
May 30th, 2012
12:08 am
“He is known for his defense, and he had no effect on the series defensively.”
Ok, now you’re just being obstinate. Go back and read MC’s post on containing Rondo where he used synergy to break down every Hawks defensive possession with the ball in Rondo’s hands. For the period of the game when Kirk is on Rondo, Rondo does very little damage. As soon as Green, Pargo or Teague tries to defend Rondo, he goes off. It’s all right there in black and white for you to read if you want to deal with facts. If you just want to live in a fantasy land where JC1 is the ideal player, even though he couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn in Games 5 & 6 against CHI and lost the series for us, then go right ahead.
Slimjr
May 30th, 2012
12:17 am
the deceiver= the Father of lies, the Destroyer, a Murderer from the beginning….
Slimjr
May 30th, 2012
12:29 am
Uh oh, now I sound like BK.. Draft big and to heck with those guards! Hehehe
Danger, Danger! Shields up Scottie!
Buddy Grizzard
May 30th, 2012
12:32 am
Slimjr that’s why I don’t want Tony Wroten. He can’t shoot so he’s not a two guard, and he turns the ball over against college defense so he’s not a point guard. He’s one of those hybrid, no-position players.
Slimjr
May 30th, 2012
12:48 am
Buddy, it would be a no brain’er..Andrew over Tony all day!
Also I agree, no doubt Larry cost them the series..But he will not take any blame for it. He’ll put it all on the players..No wonder why Woody can’t stand the man..
Grandad
May 30th, 2012
12:49 am
High-Sider
I`ll take a stab // (racism):
Believing that one race is superior to the other.
For reasons whether cultural, genetic / hereditary
that enables one race with some distinction
that endows said race to rule over the other.
Believing that one race above the other achieves
at a higher rate whether physically or intellectually
therefore making said race superior.
Believing that one`s government should follow the doctrine
of racial superiority based on your own race being in power.
Hatred or intolerence of anyone outside one`s own race.
editors note:
*[the following is not a definition but G-dad`s personal belief]
Furthermore,I believe, one should love your fellow man.
If you hate your fellow man, because he or she is different;
I would probably consider you racist.
However hatred for being different, leads to many other categories
of bias: e.g. repugnance toward gay folks for example.
*[one doesn`t have to agree with gay folks, but no reason to hate `em]
*[just like I should not to hate republicans]
My thinking is a person is more likely to be cicumspect and wise,
if they are open minded and reasonable.
This would lead to becoming a much more accomplished
and well rounded human being.
Grandad
May 30th, 2012
12:53 am
Slimjr
I`m glad to help convert you to the Andrew Nicholson Club.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 30th, 2012
12:55 am
“This series was lost due to LD’s COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE as an NBA coach, not because we didn’t have JC1 to chuck up a few shots.”
Well, it was lost in large part because the Hawks couldn’t get consistent scoring from anyone, especially in crunch time. I don’t necessarily agree that Jamal is the scorer who would have made the difference, but the Hawks did need another scorer.
Rusty
May 30th, 2012
12:56 am
The announcer said the thunder are dribbling to much,you can’t beat a good defense by dribbling. Don’t JH & LD know that.
Rusty
May 30th, 2012
12:57 am
JJ that is
Rusty
May 30th, 2012
12:59 am
KH is over the hill,he certainly isn’t a good pg & isn’t a good enough scorer to play sg.his defense is also way overrated.
Slimjr
May 30th, 2012
1:03 am
News Flash: There’s only one race.. Its called the Human race…
High-sider men that believe they belong to a different race have been deceived by the prince of this world..So that’s why you see them act accordingly around this big blue marble…Nothing new under the Sun Sir.. Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived spoke on the vanity of man..In the grand scheme its just a waste of time….
FYI, check out the book of ecclesiastics 1st chapter and you will be surprised how he describes himself…Hmmmmmmm
Grandad
May 30th, 2012
1:03 am
Just Joe
I envision Andrw Nichlsn playing Center for us.
Tag team with Zaza.
He would immediately have the best low post moves on the team.
With the verstility to play the [3 & 4]
not a natural [3] but better than Marv right now & shot 40+ %
from behind the arc last yr.
Rusty
May 30th, 2012
1:05 am
High-Sider stick up for your favorite , JC1 has more talent than KH,Pargo or Green ever had. I stuck up for JT when everyone on this blog downgraded him,we certainly seen that he is very good & would be even better if stupid LD would let him be the PG & would try to control JJ & JS.
Rod from College Park
May 30th, 2012
1:24 am
“For the period of the game when Kirk is on Rondo, Rondo does very little damage.”
You are joking right? You really can’t believe that.
Grandad
May 30th, 2012
1:30 am
Rusty
You just stated that to beat a good team;
you needed, ” more passing and less dribbling “.
Now, I`m just curious as to how you wish to deploy Teaguer ?
Your pg that you wish to be let loose !
Do you want Jeff to dribble more ?
Everyone else handle the ball less ?
How does Jeff do this unless he dribbles more ?
LD runs a motion passing offense;
that most agree [JoeJ] stops the * ball movement *
* [genarally defined as passing]
and Josh is a pretty good passer ?
Josh – whom you do not wish to handle the ball ?
While JT is more slasher than facilitator ?
I reckon you`ll have to go over this new offense with me
that you`ve designed, so I`ll better understand ?
Just messin` with you Rusty.
ntrigue
May 30th, 2012
1:32 am
I would rather have Pape Sy than Kirk!!! And Cedric Benson than Jason Collins!!! Lockout hurt us with getting some of undrafted talent we had an eye on like Jeremy Hazell I wanted him last year he can score and play decent D no problem creating his shot!! WOuld be good on our bench!
Rod from College Park
May 30th, 2012
1:36 am
“the deceiver= the Father of lies, the Destroyer, a Murderer from the beginning….”
Good answer. Next question is, the beginning of what?
Buddy Grizzard
May 30th, 2012
1:39 am
“KH is over the hill,he certainly isn’t a good pg & isn’t a good enough scorer to play sg.his defense is also way overrated.” – Rusty
Kirk shot 43% from the floor and 38% from three for the series. Compare that to Green’s 25% shooting from three or Pargo’s 29% shooting overall. Kirk played better defense on Rondo than Teague. I agree, Kirk is not that great of a defender. But he’s the best we had in the back court. He’s not that great of a scorer, but I wish he would have played more minutes in this series and shot more while Pargo and Green rode the pine.
Grandad
May 30th, 2012
1:39 am
Pop should have let Splitter throw the ball in
and remain out of bounds.
If OKC had run out of bounds to foul him;
it would / or should have been intentional.
Who am I to 2nd guess Pop ?
-just sayin`-
High-sider
May 30th, 2012
1:40 am
@Buddy Grizzard
Buddy Grizzard
May 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
“Kirk Hinrich had an aggregate +/- of -17 in the 2012 playoffs [postseason]. You call that being “a break-even defender.””
I mentioned in the previous post that he was a break-even defender in 5 out of 6 games against the Celtics. He was -18 in the Game 4 blowout when every starter was at least -16. Take away that game and the Hawks broke even or better with Kirk on the floor in 5 out of 6 games. You only have to win 4 to advance. Sorry I forgot to include the 5 out of 6 games qualification in the last post, my bad.
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If I extract [or extricate] Jamal Crawford’s performances of Game 5 and Game 6 from the 2011 EC Semis [playoff series] vs. the Bulls, he [Crawford] would average a [solid] 13ppg as a reserve for the Hawks. But you, Buddy Grizzard, and others on this blog won’t let me exclude those [two] playoff performances from his [Crawford's] 2011 playoff totals vs. the Bulls while you take the liberty of “qualifying” Hinrich’s 2012 postseason aggregate +/- statistic(s) [number(s)]. Here’s another [classic] example/instance of a blogger trying to have it “both ways.” What’s up with that? Furthermore, where was Hinrich’s offense [5.7ppg, 2.0rpg and 1.0apg] this postseason? It has already been discussed how he, Hinrich, failed to stop [Rajon] Rondo.
High-sider
May 30th, 2012
1:49 am
@Rusty
Rusty
May 30th, 2012
1:05 am
High-Sider stick up for your favorite , JC1 has more talent than KH,Pargo or Green ever had. I stuck up for JT when everyone on this blog downgraded him,we certainly seen that he is very good & would be even better if stupid LD would let him be the PG & would try to control JJ & JS.
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I will admit that I used to bash Jeff Teague but he [JT] has far exceeded my expectations and I am more than willing to eat crow and humble pie and drink a [warm] glass/cup of Hater-aid. I thought JT should have been named Most Improved Player [MIP] this year.
Buddy Grizzard
May 30th, 2012
1:49 am
Rod from C.P., reading is fundamental. Here’s MC’s break down via Synergy of the defense on Rondo in Game 3:
1st quarter
Rondo got to the basket when Kirk Hinrich helped on Paul Pierce, who was two steps ahead of Joe coming off a screen. But Rondo missed after Hinrich recovered and challenged his shot.
Rondo faked using a screen to his left, prompting Hinrich to step under it. Rondo stepped back to his right to shoot but missed as Hinrich managed to challenge.
Rondo posted up Hinrich but lost the ball when Hinrich reached around and poked it away.
Rondo collected the loose ball after Hinrich nearly stole it, then was fouled by Collins on a layup attempt. Rondo made both free throws.
Rondo sailed a pass over Greg Stiemsma’s head.
Rondo tried to blow past Hinrich in transition but Hinrich anticipated it and forced a Rondo miss (it looked as though Hinrich actually may have gotten a piece of the ball but no block was credited).
Second quarter
Rondo went around a Kevin Garnett screen as Hinrich stumbled while going under it, but Hinrich recovered and stripped Rondo of the ball as he started his move to the basket.
Rondo made a bad bounce pass to Ray Allen and then charged into Ivan Johnson after collecting Allen’s wild pass to save the ball from going out of bounds.
Third quarter
Rondo scored a layup off a screen when Teague went way under a Garnett screen and then hesitated to get back over it as Garnett rolled to the basket with Jason Collins.
Rondo rubbed Hinrich off a Garnett screen but missed a corner 3-point attempt as Hinrich recovered to challenge.
Rondo missed an open 20-footer as Hinrich went under Garnett’s screen and was late to challenge. (Dominique Wilkins on the call: “You’ll give him that shot all night.”)
Rondo missed an open 18-footer on what appeared to be a broken play from the Celtics: both Pierce and Garnett were trying to set a pick. Hinrich went under them both and conceded the shot.
Rondo tried to get to the basket past Hinrich on the secondary break but Hinrich swiped at the ball a Rondo went up to force the miss.
Rondo isolated Jannero Pargo and overpowered him for a layp.
Rondo got past Pargo in transition but missed a rushed jumper as the third-quarter buzzer sounded.
Fourth quarter
Rondo got careless with the ball while holding it out with one hand to survey the court and Pargo poked it away for a steal.
Rondo scored on a layup after Pargo got taken out by a Garnett screen and Dampier failed to show at all.
Rondo scored on the break after Pierce poked the ball away from Tracy McGrady (Teague did well to chase down Rondo and challenge but Rondo scored on a nifty reverse layup).
Rondo scored a layup off the pick-and-roll layup after Teague prematurely jumped under Garnett’s screen (though it did appear Garnett hooked Teague to prevent him from recovering).
Rondo missed a 20-footer after Teague went under Garnett’s screen but was able to challenge because of his quickness and leaping ability.
Rondo’s layup attempt after an offensive rebound was blocked by Joe.
Rondo missed a runner over Collins on the scrambled possession that followed Joe’s blocked shot.
Rondo missed an iso layup when Teague recovered from a trailing position and used his leaping ability to challenge.
Overtime
Rondo scored a layup after rubbing Teague off a Garnett screen (Teague recovered from the screen but then Rondo reversed course, snaked to the basket and scored on a nifty scoop shot.)
Rondo posted up Teague and dropped in a hook shot over him.
Rondo missed a layup in transition after he stole Collins’ pass (it appeared Rondo simply lost his footing when planting).
Rondo missed an isolation jumper late in shot clock against tight defense by Teague, who wouldn’t allow Garnett space to set a screen.
Rondo, isolated against Teague, used a fake to get free for a layup–he missed when Collins challenged, but that left Garnett to dunk the rebound and essentially finish off the Hawks.
Buddy Grizzard
May 30th, 2012
1:58 am
So as you can see, the defensive possessions with Kirk look like this:
miss, miss, poke away by hinrich, drew foul on collins, bad pass, miss, hinrich stripped ball, bad pass, missed three, missed 20-footer, missed 18-footer, missed layup
Then with Teague guarding him starting in the third quarter, Rondo’s posessions looked like this:
layup, layup, missed 20-footer, missed layup, layup, made hook shot, missed jumper, missed layup put back by Garnett
With Pargo guarding him, Rondo’s posessions looked like this:
layup, missed jumper, Pargo steal, layup, lost Pargo on a spin move, assist to Pierce on a 3.
Any more questions, Rod?