Atlanta Hawks: NBA admits blown call in Game 6 (plus notes)
The NBA said Marquis Daniels should have been called sooner for fouling Al Horford on an inbound play with 3.1 seconds left in Game 6. If game officials had made the correct call the Hawks, who trailed 81-79 at the time, would have been awarded a free throw and possession of the ball.
The league posted a link with an explanation on one of its official Twitter accounts:
During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime, if a personal foul is assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in, it is considered an Away-From-The-Play Foul and the offensive team is awarded one free throw and possession of the ball. With 3.1 seconds remaining in the the Boston-Atlanta game last night, a foul was called on the Celtics’ Marquis Daniels after the Hawks’ Marvin Williams had released the ball and therefore the foul was correctly treated as a common foul and not an Away-From-the-Play foul. With that said, however, the replay shows that the foul on Daniels should have been called sooner than it was by the officials, in which case it would have met the requirements of an Away-From-The-Play Foul.
I watched the video numerous times and it’s very close as to whether Daniels was called for a foul before Marvin released the ball. In any event, league spokesman Tim Frank said the rules do not give game officials the option to look at a video replay to determine when the ball is thrown in or when a foul is committed.
Of course there is no recourse for the Hawks, who protested the call during the game. Coach Larry Drew said game officials told him Daniels fouled Horford after Williams released the ball.
“That would have been a huge play, a huge turn of events,” Josh Smith said.
Horford said game officials didn’t offer the players much of an explanation.
“We knew we were on the road and we weren’t going to get anything [and] we were going to have to earn everything we got so it was no surprise they didn’t call the foul earlier,” he said. “He was grabbing me the whole time.”
Notes from exit interview day
- Drew said neither he nor his agent have talked to Hawks management about his contract option for next season. He said he planned to “get away for a few days” before taking up the issue next week.
- Not sure how much there is to the Chris Broussard report linking Rick Sund to the Portland GM opening. Hawks owners have expressed an interest in re-signing Sund but haven’t made a formal offer. Sund has told people he may be interested in a part-time consulting role with the Hawks or another team and also is considering retirement.
- Josh didn’t have much to say about his future, except to repeat “I’m under contract for one more year with the Hawks” and remind media that he could be fined for talking about the reports of his trade request. His trade request still stands for all the reasons I reported before the trade deadline. I’m told another factor that can be added to the list is his desire to play in what he believes to be a better basketball market. But I’m sure you might have inferred that from the way Josh (without prompting) contrasted Boston’s fans with Atlanta’s throughout the series.
- Al said he would resume rehabilitation for his pectoral. “I’m very limited,” he said. “I made a lot of progress in two weeks but I’m about 50 or 60 percent strength.” He reiterated that he didn’t feel comfortable returning before Game 4: “I knew I had a ways to go. Even when I came back, I felt limited. I gave it all I had for the team and for the city. Our city had big expectations for us. It was unfortunate we had a number of injuries and couldn’t do what we wanted.”
- Drew wouldn’t say exactly went wrong on Atlanta’s penultimate possession, which ended with Josh missing a 22-footer, except to say the ball was supposed to go to Joe Johnson. I watched the replay a few times and best I can tell is that Josh was supposed to set a pick to free Joe to cut to the basket or, if Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass switched, end up in the high post against Pierce. However, it looked as if Josh released his screen too soon and stepped out to the perimeter.
- Al on the play: “We drew up a play. I thought it was a pretty good play. I got it and swung it to Josh. Joe, they did a good job denying him, so Josh forced up a tough shot. It didn’t go down.”
- Mike Prada at SB Nation has a different interpretation of the play. He thinks the first option was for Al to feed Josh the ball on the left block. That doesn’t jibe with Drew’s explanation but both could be true considering Drew’s plays have multiple options. Prada also thinks the Celtics got away with a lot of clutching and grabbing on the play. (H/T Jason Walker of Peachtree Hoops).
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drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
9:11 pm
DawgNole, ain’t that a Sham-Shame? Pathetic, I say. Hey Shamrock, don’t FK with Najeh, he roll 100 deep on this blog. Everybody on here got his back, like a Bobby Knight tight red sweater.
Move on … son. Go follow the dirty green people.
5150 UOAD
May 13th, 2012
9:18 pm
Thank God I don’t care about the NBA or NHL I might be upset about some or any of this crap.
Slimjr
May 13th, 2012
9:49 pm
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
8:40 pm
* http://on.nba.com/KV8bDr (Javale’s Mamma)
Just awesome stuff! drmaryb! His Mother is amazing!
brigadierjerry
May 13th, 2012
9:54 pm
Was thinking that I could see Josh wanting to go to Boston since he is cool with Rondo. I just dont see how Boston would acquire him.
Was thinking which teams Joe J could go. I could see Knicks but I do not think Atlanta would take on that money even though it is less years and a frontline of Amare Horford Smith is somewhat weak defeneively.
I could see if Nets do not get Dwight and keep Deron could see them trading for Joe Johnson.
Slimjr, I know you like Rudy Gay. I have followed him since his last year of high school but he has a good game but again as you say today same with Danny Granger, they are Robin type of players they are good not sure they get you over the hump if they are on the Hawks.
MS Bully
May 13th, 2012
10:03 pm
I believe the Celtics are up 1-0 in the second round of the playoffs.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 13th, 2012
10:08 pm
“You just really like downplaying the other teams in the East. We are just as sucky/worse as these teams.”
Where did you see me say the Hawks would do any better? They have already proven the Celtics are better, and I have said all season that they would have no chance to beat the Heat in a series.
DawgNole
May 13th, 2012
10:09 pm
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
9:11 pm
DawgNole, ain’t that a Sham-Shame? Pathetic, I say. Hey Shamrock, don’t FK with Najeh, he roll 100 deep on this blog. Everybody on here got his back, like a Bobby Knight tight red sweater.
Move on … son. Go follow the dirty green people.
_____________________
Excellent use of colors (red & green in this case) to make a point, drmaryb.
Dguy2hawks
May 13th, 2012
10:28 pm
If I was Josh Smith I would want to leave town too. Our fan support for sports teams in Atlanta, especially the Hawks, is terrible. Just listen to what people say on national television about us.(ATL sports fans)
Astro Joe
May 13th, 2012
10:29 pm
OB, George Karl is one of those “difference makers” among NBA head coaches. Javale needed that, I’m very, very confident that he will be far better with Karl than he would be with LD. On the contrary, K-Mart is an old vet who knows what he is doing. VDN is a lot closer to LD than he is to Karl.
O'brien
May 13th, 2012
10:31 pm
Just Joe,
I forgot about Josh’s trade kicker, which is reported as 15% of the value of his remaining contract. So with $13.2 mil remaining on his deal, the other team would owe him $15.2 mil. Nobody will pay him that (imo) unless he agrees to an extension first, Because imagine if a team trades for him, only to see him walk away as a FA.
brigadierjerry,
If Boston wants him, they would wait for him to become a FA (they are way under the cap in 2013).
Dguy2hawks
May 13th, 2012
10:31 pm
Rules should be changed to allow any play to reviewed In the last 2 minutes, at least in the playoffs. That would solve problem like this.
O'brien
May 13th, 2012
10:43 pm
How badly do you want to get rid of JJ? Do you need equal talent in return, or just want to get rid of his salary?
Orlando will want to impress Dwight Howard, so maybe they are interested in trading for JJ to pair with Dwight. But if you’re the Hawks, would you trade JJ (4 years, $89 mil) for Jason Richardson (3 years, $18.6 mil) and HedoTurkoglu (2 years, $23.6 mil)?
That deal gives us nothing close to equal value on the court(imo), but it would give us more flexibility in 2013 and beyond. And let’s face it. If the ASG owns the team, they will not amnesty JJ, paying him $48 mil (his salary the last 2 years, just to go away).
In a perfect world, they would amnesty Marvin this offseason (imo), assuming they can’t find a trade partner for him, let LD and Rick go, bring in an established coach (like Sloan), and a new GM, even if he has only been an assistant GM somewhere else. And with Kirk’s contract off the books, and Marvin’s salary, maybe they could sign an impact FA for a change.
O'brien
May 13th, 2012
10:45 pm
For the record, I dont like that Orlando deal.
SteveW
May 13th, 2012
10:58 pm
Jeff Teague the worst PG in the playoffs? Are you sure about that?
CJ Watson started 5 of 6 games for the Bulls – Didn’t play nearly as well as Teague in the playoffs
Darren Collison for the Pacers is at best Jeff’s equal. George Hill below Teague in most every category.
Chalmers again may at best be equal to Teague.
Baron Davis and Mike Bibby are nowhere close to Jeff Teague. Not now.
Ramon Sessions is a little below Teague statistically in most categories. Close, but not quite Teague.
Devin Harris right now is probably no more than Teague’s equal. Maybe not as good. Check the stats.
So Teague was not the worst PG in the playoffs by any measure – Regular season or playoff performance.
And you could make the case that Jeff had a better regular season than JRue Holiday. Check the stats.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
11:01 pm
Slimjr, yeah I uploaded that link before I watched it. I like Javale”s Mom too, she is beautiful too, nice skin, bones and hair. i was impressed, a HOFer too, baller chick.
DawgNole, LOL. I can’t let a troll mess with my peeps. We’re cohorts on here. Only we can bash each other.
SteveW
May 13th, 2012
11:12 pm
If you really wanted to trade Josh, I’m sure Boston would trade picks 21 and 22 for him. Two first picks for Josh – We would have picks 21-23 in the draft. Supposedly a deep draft – so if we were sure we had 3 guys we liked in those spots, like Tony Wroten, Arnett Moultrie, and Fab Melo or Festus Ezelli, we could probably do worse.
And use the savings of about 9.4million to sign Kevin Garnett for 3 years at 8 million per.
Your Frontcourt rotation would be ZaZa, Al, and KG. 2 more young bigs behind them.
And a G that has alot of talent in Wroten.
Make the deal with Boston, but don’t make it official until after the #20 pick is drafted, so you can make sure the players you want are still on the board.
I know the negatives. Just a thought.
Grandad
May 13th, 2012
11:13 pm
stephen a smith alluded earlier to trade
Joe for Amare
Once I joked about the idea,
-now-
I`m all in.
more to come.
Tank:
Why do a S -&- T for Nash ?
Why not just sign him outright ?
He`s an un-RFA
Shamrock
May 13th, 2012
11:13 pm
I told NAJEH DAVENPOOP that the Hawks would fold in crunch time, like they always do…. and that ALL CAPS letters was pointless. And i know that NAJEH likes little boys round behinds…… and the Celtics will dominate all the way to the Finals. Tell Josh i hope he liked the green integrated all throughout his arena
Tank
May 13th, 2012
11:15 pm
I mentioned it earlier, but How about Joe, Josh for S&T Steve Nash Martin Gortat, and Grant hill?
Najeh Davenpoop
May 13th, 2012
11:19 pm
“Thank God I don’t care about the NBA or NHL I might be upset about some or any of this crap.”
No, but you’re a Tech fan, so you get to be upset every year because your teams don’t even come close to winning anything meaningful. At least the Hawks manage to make it to the postseason.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 13th, 2012
11:20 pm
Shamrock, is that really so important that it’s worth posting 4 times? Have fun getting swept by the Heat and having the Big 3 dismantled and entering the next Antoine Walker/Rick Pitino era for the next 20 years.
Steve
May 13th, 2012
11:20 pm
Trade Josh NOW.
Now, before you folks get all mad at me please let me explain. I think Josh Smith is probably the best player the Hawks have (close battle with Horford). I love watching him play hard almost all the time.
That being said .. the Hawks are strapped with one of the worst contracts in NBA history. They are paying the 20th best scorer in the playoffs(JJ) a max contract at one of the easiest positions to fill with decent talent. Not only that, everyone above him has a much better field goal percentage, meaning JJ has to shoot far more often just to rank 20th.
Since the Hawks simply cannot move JJ, then they need to realize they will not win it all for the next 5-6 years and need to start thinking about this. Simply put, they should trade to anyone willing to take his contract. If they cannot, then they need to start moving other pieces and start rebuilding … again. Josh is easily the most sought after piece and they may walk away with NOTHING if they don’t trade him. I will hate to see him leave this team, but it’s probably best for the Hawks long-term .. and it’s certainly best for Josh.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 13th, 2012
11:23 pm
“How badly do you want to get rid of JJ? Do you need equal talent in return, or just want to get rid of his salary?”
There is no way the Hawks get anything close to equal value for Joe, if by “equal value” you mean a top 5 player at his position who has made multiple All Star games. If the Hawks are lucky, they will get a first round pick and cap space. If they have to take back multi-year contracts, they should be multi-year contracts that can be traded for cap space and/or picks. I don’t like that Orlando deal either.
SteveW
May 13th, 2012
11:24 pm
And a big case could be made that Jeff Teague outplayed 39 year old Jason Kidd both regular season and postseason this year.
Grandad
May 13th, 2012
11:29 pm
I have concluded that … the best way to rid ourselves of the plague;
‘`JoeJohnson`’
Is to trade him to the NYK for Amare.
Reasoning:
*Wdsn [to be] renewed = loves Joe
*Melo endorsed Wdsn
*Amare – not so much
Reasons for Joe leavin`
*Joe Must Go
** straight up Joe for Amare **
salaries match ~> git `er done !
***Amare is one yr younger than Joe, as well.
**** Hwks get a Big for a guard [do it every time] ****
note – trade Josh or move him to the [3].
Grandad
May 13th, 2012
11:36 pm
Shamrock
I`ll bet you`re not even Irish;
I would imagine you are probably from Wales.
Which would explain why you`re such a Neanderthal.
Didn`t get it, I thought not ?
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
11:43 pm
how many times has nique said, “give the ball to the pg and, run the lanes for easy buckets at the rim?”
too many to count.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
11:46 pm
one on one exit interviews will be a blast this year. wish i could be a “back stabbing” fly on that wall. (snickers)
northcyde
May 13th, 2012
11:56 pm
I wouldn’t be against a JJ for Amare deal. Both teams may benefit from that move actually. The Knicks would just have to find a defensive/rebounding 4 to take Amare’s spot ( Reggie Evans ), while Melo and JJ take all of the shots.
Lin ( if re-signed )
JJ
Melo
Evans
Chandler
Hawks:
Teague
????
Smith
Amare
Horford
So who fills JJ’s spot at the 2? Shannon Brown? A re-signed Hinrich? Nick Young ( who may be out of our price range )
It would’ve been Jordan Crawford . . but oops, we traded him. Hey, maybe some of you will get your wish, and Jamal opts not to take the 5 mill, and the Hawks sign him to something like a 3 yr – 12 mill deal. That way, ya’ll ( we ) can root for Jamal again.
Teague
Jamal
Smith
Amare
Horford
Does that lineup get us to the Eastern Conference Finals? Is that a playoff tough squad?
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 13th, 2012
11:57 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
May 13th, 2012
11:20 pm
Shamrock, is that really so important that it’s worth posting 4 times? Have fun getting swept by the Heat and having the Big 3 dismantled and entering the next Antoine Walker/Rick Pitino era for the next 20 years.
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Keep Rondo, sign Smoove, and add other pieces with the loads of space they will have….doesn’t really sound like a Pitino era to me
northcyde
May 13th, 2012
11:58 pm
drmaryb. . . there’s no telling how many easy buckets Nique scored in his career by just doing that. Between Doc and Spud giving the ball to Nique to finish plays, he probably scored about 1,500 points in his career, just by doing that alone.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 13th, 2012
11:59 pm
If we get Amare, trade Smoove for a SG.
And DrMary, when do exit intvws take place? Or is this anemic report above in the blog all we got? Is MC already on vacation for 4 months? I remember last summer we got like 10 blogs in 3 or 4 months
Grandad
May 14th, 2012
12:03 am
northcyde
Sign Nash [unrestricted FA]
Teaguer plays the [2] Barbosa style;
while being mentored by Nash.
Teaguer would also defend the [1] position.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 14th, 2012
12:04 am
U gotta hope Amare recovers from this season. Just to avoid the BS 24m u owe Joe at age 34 u do this trade
Grandad
May 14th, 2012
12:12 am
Exit interviews most likely have taken place.
If not all then the majority have for certain.
Perhaps one or two stragglers, for whatever reason.
Exit interview should be made while the dead body is fresh.
-or-
Before the *’`rot`’* sets in.
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MC may be away `til Autumn.
Not altogether his fault.
We wouldnt work either if we wern`t getting paid.
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I reckon somebody needs to start counting the posts
to see how long it`ll be `fore they shut `er down.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 14th, 2012
12:14 am
Joe for Amare is only a good trade because it gets rid of Joe’s contract. I have no interest in building this team around a 30 year old, non-defensive, non-rebounding PF who needs a pass-first PG to create shots for him and has knees so bad that his contract can’t be insured. If the Hawks trade Joe for Amare (which is a good short-term trade for the Knicks) it has to be followed up by trading Amare for someone else or cap space.
Buddy Grizzard
May 14th, 2012
12:16 am
“I just dont see how Boston would acquire him.”
I think Josh will force the issue and make it clear he is not re-signing. They will have cap room to sign him as a ufa next offseason.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 14th, 2012
12:18 am
John Hollinger @johnhollinger
http://NBA.com stat I just stumbled upon: The Hawks were league’s best team in last 2 min of one-poss games, at +37. Really.
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drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
12:23 am
“And DrMary, when do exit intvws take place? Or is this anemic report above in the blog all we got? Is MC already on vacation for 4 months? I remember last summer we got like 10 blogs in 3 or 4 months”
___________
the exit interviews will occur probably next week, around the time they clean their lockers out for the Summer. First Coach Drew, then the GM. Then the coaches individually meet with the GM/owners.
IDK, if the players meet with the owners or not, I guess that is possible.
This is where all the back stabbing occurs, in private. (hehe) … GM – JeJe, not doubt there will be a lot of finger pointing and blaming going on. MVT will be able to tell how, they wouldn’t give him the ball to initiate the offense. If Jeff doesn’t rebound it himself, no assists. LOL
If this year is like last year, yes … MC will be ghost and we will be toast. I guess, I’ll be back on The Real GM Blog as a ballboy, running my own blog there. LOL
Or, maybe Chris Vilamore, will feed us some AP articles to blog on. Maybe, the blog will be closed once the counter hits 999 … Ha Ha …Herman Cain 9-9-9? Or, if the trolls goes off his meds again, we’ll be shut down daily and often.
The fans get blamed for everything, but we hard core ones get no respect either way. Maybe, we will have to figure out those “Soul Train” scrabble letters and follow Buddy Grizzard @ hoopopinion.
Poor us, we get nothing. LOL
__________
If Josh leaves us, who will play SF?
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
12:37 am
najeh, what does this mean? in plain english?
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
12:41 am
we will need a 5ive team trade to move joe. we need multiple pieces to balance this roster and, without a super star in here, the stands will be ghost.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
12:44 am
ghost, like them blacked out scoreboards and that RED restaurant with no patrons. i’ll be at bones in buckhead, with them 100 year old white dudes. lol
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
12:47 am
Any chance we get turnover Jeremy Lin? Now that dude will pack the Arena with every Asian from Chamblee Tucker Rd. and Buford Highway in Doraville, GA.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
12:47 am
G-Nite.
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
1:04 am
Chicago wants JJ. They’ve been dying for a legit 2 for the longest. Gibson and Boozer for JJ and Marvin? Boozer’s got a bad contract, but not quite as bad as JJ’s.
Houston wanted JJ – why I don’t know – they have Kevin Martin and Courtney Lee. Dragic and Scola? for JJ? Not sure.
The Knicks want JJ (or did) – no 2 Guard to speak of. If you could play Amare off the bench 25 minutes per nite – his knees may hold up. Back, hip, whatever else is wrong with him.
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
1:07 am
Maybe Detroit wants JJ – Stuckey and Gordon for JJ?
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
1:14 am
I wonder how Indy committed 31 fouls to Miami’s 22?
I wonder how Miami shot 38 FT’s in the game, to 28 for Indy?
Must be the jitters for the young Indiana team, wink, wink.
High-sider
May 14th, 2012
1:48 am
“…It would’ve been Jordan Crawford . . but oops, we traded him. Hey, maybe some of you will get your wish, and Jamal opts not to take the 5 mill, and the Hawks sign him to something like a 3 yr – 12 mill deal. That way, ya’ll ( we ) can root for Jamal again.
Teague
Jamal
Smith
Amare
Horford
Does that lineup get us to the Eastern Conference Finals? Is that a playoff tough squad?” – northcyde
Yaaayyy! I’ll go along with a scenario that brings Jamal back to the Hawks, but a frontcourt of J. Smith, Horford and Stoudemire may clog the paint for the Hawks on the offensive end. Who’s going to be the first, second, third and fourth option [on offense]? I still like Joe Johnson, however, and would hate for the Hawks to lose him [J. Johnson].
Shamrock
May 14th, 2012
2:29 am
Thanks for noticing my comments NAJEH, since your the so-called expert on this blog and you know all the answers. How bout you come play GM for my team for our Rick Petino era, or you can keep rubbing 10 year old boys…
northcyde
May 14th, 2012
2:38 am
Grandad
May 14th, 2012
12:03 am
northcyde
Sign Nash [unrestricted FA]
Teaguer plays the [2] Barbosa style;
while being mentored by Nash.
Teaguer would also defend the [1] position.
**********************
So Nash would have to defend people like Dwyane Wade, Joe Johnson ( if traded to the Knicks to play the 2 ), and chase around Ray Allen ( if he re-signs with the Celtics on the cheap )?
Nah Grandad. That backcourt is way too small. Either way it goes, Nash is going to be a major defensive weak link. And it’s unfair to ask Teague to guard people much bigger than him. Teague would have to be the 6th man off the bench. We’d need a defensive SG if we’re going with Nash at the point, and Teague rotating between the 1 and the 2.
And the end of game scenario, no way we could play Nash and Teague together in a tight game. Teague isn’t Joe Dumars.