Atlanta Hawks: NBA admits blown call in Game 6 (plus notes)

The NBA said Marquis Daniels should have been called sooner for fouling Al Horford on an inbound play with 3.1 seconds left in Game 6. If game officials had made the correct call the Hawks, who trailed 81-79 at the time, would have been awarded a free throw and possession of the ball.

The league posted a link with an explanation on one of its official Twitter accounts:

During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime, if a personal foul is assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in, it is considered an Away-From-The-Play Foul and the offensive team is awarded one free throw and possession of the ball. With 3.1 seconds remaining in the the Boston-Atlanta game last night, a foul was called on the Celtics’ Marquis Daniels after the Hawks’ Marvin Williams had released the ball and therefore the foul was correctly treated as a common foul and not an Away-From-the-Play foul. With that said, however, the replay shows that the foul on Daniels should have been called sooner than it was by the officials, in which case it would have met the requirements of an Away-From-The-Play Foul.

I watched the video numerous times and it’s very close as to whether Daniels was called for a foul before Marvin released the ball. In any event, league spokesman Tim Frank said the rules do not give game officials the option to look at a video replay to determine when the ball is thrown in or when a foul is committed.

Of course there is no recourse for the Hawks, who protested the call during the game. Coach Larry Drew said game officials told him Daniels fouled Horford after Williams released the ball.

“That would have been a huge play, a huge turn of events,” Josh Smith said.

Horford said game officials didn’t offer the players much of an explanation.

“We knew we were on the road and we weren’t going to get anything [and] we were going to have to earn everything we got so it was no surprise they didn’t call the foul earlier,” he said. “He was grabbing me the whole time.”

Notes from exit interview day

  • Drew said neither he nor his agent have talked to Hawks management about his contract option for next season. He said he planned to “get away for a few days” before taking up the issue next week.
  • Not sure how much there is to the Chris Broussard report linking Rick Sund to the Portland GM opening. Hawks owners have expressed an interest in re-signing Sund but haven’t made a formal offer. Sund has told people he may be interested in a part-time consulting role with the Hawks or another team and also is considering retirement.
  • Josh didn’t have much to say about his future, except to repeat “I’m under contract for one more year with the Hawks” and remind media that he could be fined for talking about the reports of his trade request. His trade request still stands for all the reasons I reported before the trade deadline. I’m told another factor that can be added to the list is his desire to play in what he believes to be a better basketball market. But I’m sure you might have inferred that from the way Josh (without prompting) contrasted Boston’s fans with Atlanta’s throughout the series.
  • Al said he would resume rehabilitation for his pectoral. “I’m very limited,” he said. “I made a lot of progress in two weeks but I’m about 50 or 60 percent strength.” He reiterated that he didn’t feel comfortable returning before Game 4: “I knew I had a ways to go. Even when I came back, I felt limited. I gave it all I had for the team and for the city. Our city had big expectations for us. It was unfortunate we had a number of injuries and couldn’t do what we wanted.”
  • Drew wouldn’t say exactly went wrong on Atlanta’s penultimate possession, which ended with Josh missing a 22-footer, except to say the ball was supposed to go to Joe Johnson. I watched the replay a few times and best I can tell is that Josh was supposed to set a pick to free Joe to cut to the basket or, if Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass switched, end up in the high post against Pierce. However, it looked as if Josh released his screen too soon and stepped out to the perimeter.
  • Al on the play: “We drew up a play. I thought it was a pretty good play. I got it and swung it to Josh. Joe, they did a good job denying him, so Josh forced up a tough shot. It didn’t go down.”
  • Mike Prada at SB Nation has a different interpretation of the play. He thinks the first option was for Al to feed Josh the ball on the left block. That doesn’t jibe with Drew’s explanation but both could be true considering Drew’s plays have multiple options. Prada also thinks the Celtics got away with a lot of clutching and grabbing on the play. (H/T Jason Walker of Peachtree Hoops).

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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Najeh Davenpoop

May 13th, 2012
5:15 pm

“Najeh,

Not looking food for Memphis.”

Yeah, this is why I stopped betting on basketball. I would make money on the football season and lose it all on the NBA season.

The X factors in this series were Conley, Evans, and K-Mart. Conley because he consistently failed to get his teammates the ball in spots where they could score in crunch time, and Evans and K-Mart because they brought the toughness and physicality to slow down Memphis’ size advantage.

It’s too bad for the Grizzlies, because no other team has the kind of physicality in the front court to combat Randolph and Gasol that effectively. The Lakers’ big men are more concerned with their offensive game, and while Perkins is a physical guy, Ibaka is more of a weak side defender than a physical presence who will get under someone’s skin. If the Grizzlies had found a way to advance in this series I think they would have beaten anyone else.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
5:22 pm

drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
4:32 pm

doc,

Even with my good, strong, small, steady doctor hands … I stick with the old skool BlackBerry. I have got to feel and push real buttons. I ordered the Apple 4S iphone one minute and cancelled my order the next. I don’t even have the heart to deal with a talking phone (SIRI) and, a pain in the azz – touch screen and, I have never even touched one.

I’m just sayin’. Stick to what you know. LOL
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Hell, I wouldn’t even attempt to post from my smart phone. Takes me an hour to type my name. Don’t know how y’all do it. I can fly on a regular keyboard, but texting came too late for this ol’ dawg to learn.

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
5:23 pm

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
4:41 pm

Happy mothers day to you…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 13th, 2012
5:25 pm

“So what is Josh supposed to think, when he sees the crowd looking like Christmas decorations, with all of the red with green sprinkled everywhere. The crowd IS an issue in Atlanta. Name whatever reason WHY it is . . but it IS an issue.”

He is supposed to think, “Let me improve my game and become a superstar and put this team on my back so that this city gets behind us.”

It’s not his fault that this organization’s personnel moves have been inept enough to leave him as the best player on this team. But he has been a Hawk for 8 years and an ATLien for 25. He has “DSGB” and the Pacman Hawks logo and the state of Georgia tatted on his arm. He knows about Atlanta as much as any of us do. He remembers what the crowd was like in the 2008 first round, which rivaled any crowd in any other city. He knows what has happened since then — lopsided playoff blowout losses, lack of progress in the playoffs, and a general sense of contentment from the people in charge of the franchise with the current state of affairs. He is smart enough to put two and two together and understand why the fan support here hasn’t improved. If he thinks that he, the rest of the players, and the organization in general has done enough to get the local fan base on their side, he is deluding himself.

Point your fingers at the front office, Josh, not at the stands.

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
5:27 pm

Pacers are ‘Balling” Ladies.. Hawks should watch this team closely…

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
5:29 pm

Another thing.. I have never seen a more “OVERHYPED” player than LeBron “Pippen” James. He is much closer to Scotty Pippen than M.J. MVP…PLEASE!!!

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
5:41 pm

Najeh Davenpoop
May 13th, 2012
5:25 pm

He [Josh] knows about Atlanta as much as any of us do. He remembers what the crowd was like in the 2008 first round, which rivaled any crowd in any other city. He knows what has happened since then — lopsided playoff blowout losses, lack of progress in the playoffs, and a general sense of contentment from the people in charge of the franchise with the current state of affairs. He is smart enough to put two and two together and understand why the fan support here hasn’t improved. If he thinks that he, the rest of the players, and the organization in general has done enough to get the local fan base on their side, he is deluding himself.

Point your fingers at the front office, Josh, not at the stands.
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All valid points, Najeh.

I think what too many tend to forget/overlook here is that, especially for us old-timers, it’s not just since 2008 that the team has failed us–it’s since 1968. In my case, at least, that kind of “longevity”–with seemingly little hope for improvement–has beaten me down and left me jaded and cynical. Doesn’t mean I don’t care for the team or appreciate the efforts of the current players, who didn’t build this legacy of losing, after all. I just get real weary of the excuse-makers, whether they be owners, coaches, players, or fans.

High-sider

May 13th, 2012
5:42 pm

@Buddy Grizzard

High-sider
May 13th, 2012
9:33 am

“My series analysis:

http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2012/05/lessons-learned-after-action-report.html…” – Buddy Grizzard
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Overall grade for the article: 94 [A]

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
5:51 pm

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
4:02 pm

northcyde
May 11th, 2012
4:49 am

Maybe he SHOULD think, “Geez, I wonder how this organization has done over the years in ATL (all 44 of them) as far as bringing our city’s fans something to get excited about?”

Then maybe he’ll understand why ATL fans aren’t Boston fans.

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It’s not about ATL fans being Boston fans. It’ about ATL fans supporting their team to the point that they don’t let another team’s fans take over the their building.

You see the same thing in the NFL, when it comes to Pittsburgh Steelers fans. They’re everywhere. And that fan base will literally take over a stadium with a weak fan base.

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
5:54 pm

I hate watching Miami play.

With 8 minutes left in the game, Wade and James have been called for 1 foul combined. And they have attempted 16 FT combined.

And Miami gets away with a little shove here and there, whereas the other team does not. SMH

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
5:59 pm

steven a smith

Happy Mother’s Day to you too. (smiles)

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
6:05 pm

doc,

In his last 2 regular seasons (143 games combined), Josh has attempted 263 three pointers, and is shooting a combined 29%. But yet he continues, and LD refuses to reign him in.

I can only imgaine how jumpers he took from outside of the paint. Maybe northcyde has those numbers.

Mentally, Josh is too frustrating (imo). I’m with AJ. Offer him a very reasonable extension this offseason, and if he refuses, then trade him.

Melvin

May 13th, 2012
6:15 pm

Looking at the Hawks salary cap for 2012-13 season, it sucks. Over 60mil for 6 players…SMH

Just Joe

May 13th, 2012
6:21 pm

The Hawks can’t offer Josh an extension thanks to allowing Josh to sign the Memphis offer sheet and then matching. Remember too, Josh has a trade kicker that increases his salary to just over $15M if traded this year.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 13th, 2012
6:21 pm

IND-MIA is exactly the same as PHI-BOS. The Pacers will hang around because they play hard and have depth and play good D, but they won’t get good shots in crunch time and the Heat will end up winning. The Pacers may take them to 6 games, maybe, but this isn’t going to be that competitive of a series either.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
6:25 pm

“Bosh suffered the injury after a dunk with 1:06 left in the first half. Pacers’ center Roy Hibbert fouled him on the play but it wasn’t clear exactly when Bosh suffered the injur”

2nd major injury Hibbert has caused to a Southeast Division PF/C this season

Just Joe

May 13th, 2012
6:25 pm

Sund, LD, Joe, and Marvin must go.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
6:26 pm

“IND-MIA is exactly the same as PHI-BOS. The Pacers will hang around because they play hard and have depth and play good D, but they won’t get good shots in crunch time and the Heat will end up winning. The Pacers may take them to 6 games, maybe, but this isn’t going to be that competitive of a series either.”

IND and PHI will probably do just as well or better in those series as we did/would do. You just really like downplaying the other teams in the East. We are just as sucky/worse as these teams.

We wouldn’t even score 80 ppg vs Philly in a series

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
6:28 pm

MC,

Have you considered asking Joe about a possible contract restructuring?

Do you read our comments?

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
6:31 pm

“The Hawks can’t offer Josh an extension thanks to allowing Josh to sign the Memphis offer sheet and t
then matching. ”

Exactly. Most people here don’t realize this. This is why you never hear of ASG offering him an extension

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
6:31 pm

If we are to keep this core, we REALLY NEED A STRONGER COACH.

If LD’s option is not picked up, we owe him NOTHING, right? What’s the point of picking up his option?

Get a new GM, new coach, and some new energy into this pathetic team

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
6:40 pm

O’brien

May 13th, 2012
6:05 pm

doc,

In his last 2 regular seasons (143 games combined), Josh has attempted 263 three pointers, and is shooting a combined 29%. But yet he continues, and LD refuses to reign him in.

I can only imgaine how jumpers he took from outside of the paint. Maybe northcyde has those numbers.

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That’s easy to find, due to basketball-reference.com giving detailed shooting charts dating back to the 2000 – 01 season.

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Number of Josh Smith jumpers from 16+ feet ( this will include the areas from 16 – 23 feet and from 3 point range ) . . . numbers include regular season and playoffs.

2005: 162 attempts from 16+ feet . . . ( 609 total shot attempts . . 26.6% of shots were from 16+ feet )

2006: 335 . . . ( 774 attempts . . 43.3% )

2007: 394 . . . ( 993 attempts . . 39.7% )

2008: 363 . . . ( 1221 attempts . . 29.7% )

2009: 299 . . . ( 1008 attempts . . 29.7% )

2010: 263 . . . ( 1127 attempts . . 23.3% )

2011: 526 . . . ( 1212 attempts . . 43.4% )

2012: 527 . . . ( 1155 attempts . . 45.6% )

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In defense of Josh, while he did shoot terrible from 3 point range, his 38.5% shooting from 16 – 23 feet in 2011 was a career high, and right at league average from that range. His shooting from that range dipped to 36.4% this year, but is still well above what he usually shoots from that range.

But the dramatic increase in jumpshots by Josh are a direct indictment of Larry Drew. Almost a fireable offense, in my opinion. Woody actually had him on the right track, but Drew turned him back into a jumpshot menace.

A lot of people want Josh to play SF. Well, if he’s going to take this many jumpshots, you may as well put him at SF, and get a guy at PF who simply rebounds and defends at a high rate.

This team is so out of balance, it isn’t funny.

Slimjr

May 13th, 2012
7:04 pm

“Miss you, Mom.” –DawgNole–

Yea Dawgnole miss mines too….She crossed over 8 years ago….Seems like yesterday.

Guys, give your mom’s a big hug from me!

Slimjr

May 13th, 2012
7:08 pm

Just eyeball test tells you Larry will not be the coach to take this franchise to an ECF…

His two Dogs(Iso and Josh) dont trust him..Why should the others?

“Git to steppin” dude…

tyger

May 13th, 2012
7:11 pm

Off-season issues are many:

1. Rick Sund – not impressed, aloof; hamstrung by ownership; did not advance team.
2. Larry Drew – impressive; clever; resilient; good first/second year coaching job.

3. JJohnson – $21M limits flexibility; but good, not great, outside presence.
4. AHorford – Allstar C-F is future; do we move him to PF permanently now?
5. JSmith – Time to part ways with gifted F while value high, not champion-smart.
6. ZPachulia – Starting C alongside Horford or do you trade him now for value?
7. MWilliams – Inconsistent, available, but absent JSmith, does he rise? Good Game 6.
8. JTeague – Improved, but worst PG in playoffs, weak link. Desperately need upgrade.

9. KHinrich – Overall dissapointment, did not provide needed vet leadership in backct.
10. TMac – When given opportunity, still playmaker, minus Josh then what?
11. WGreen – Athletic but streaky scorer, LD seems to favor him.
12. IJohnson – Good rookie season for 28 yr. old, suspect character issues benched him.
13. JCollins – Good depth at center, 7′0, 15 yr. vet can still play, good value.
14. EDampier – Even better depth at center, 7′0, 15 yr. vet can still play, good value.
15. VRadmanovic – Early season success, streaky shooter, injuries derailed campaign.
16. JPargo – Early season success, but horrid playoffs, injuries affecting him???

1. Where does Horford play next season C or PF?
2. If PF, trade Josh for best player available or Top 5 pick.
3. Move ZaZa to starting C position, contract expires next season.
4. Keep or Trade Marvin? Probably can get a late lottery pick – 15/16.
5. With 2/3 1st rd picks target: 1. 6′11, PF, Perry Jones, Baylor 2. 6′9, G/F, Quincy Miller, Baylor 3. 7′0, C, Fab Melo, Syracuse
6. Acquire Free Agent veteran point guard – Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Chauncey Billups…

2012-2013 Hawks

JTerry JTeague JPargo
JJohnson WGreen _______
TMcGrady QMiller IJohnson
AHorford PJones JCollins
ZPachulia FMelo EDampier

Shamrock

May 13th, 2012
7:16 pm

I told NAJEH DAVENPOOP that the Hawks would fold in crunch time, like they always do…. and that ALL CAPS letters was pointless. And i know that NAJEH likes little boys round behinds…..

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
7:19 pm

“2nd major injury Hibbert has caused to a Southeast Division PF/C this season” – GM JeJe -
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He big
He tall
He strong
He hurculean
He a CENTER

Where can we get one of those? With D12 out of the East, this is our new hurdle to overcome. And, when Horford sees him again, he might pee on his leg and, run the other way.

tyger

May 13th, 2012
7:24 pm

Off-season issues are many:

1. Rick Sund – unimpressive, aloof; hamstrung; did not advance team.
2. Larry Drew – impressive; clever; resilient; good 1st/2nd yr coaching job.

3. JJohnson – $21M limits flexibility; good, not great, outside presence.
4. AHorford – Allstar C-F is future; move him to PF now?
5. JSmith – Part ways now, will not re-sign, not champion-smart.
6. ZPachulia – Starting C alongside Horford or trade him now?
7. MWilliams – Inconsistent, but absent JSmith, does he rise? Good Gm 6.
8. JTeague – Improved, worst PG in playoffs, weak link. Need upgrade.

9. KHinrich – Dissapointment, did not provide leadership in backct.
10. TMac – Given opportunity, still playmaker, minus Josh, then what?
11. WGreen – Athletic, streaky scorer, LD favors him.
12. IJohnson – Good rookie season, suspect character issues.
13. JCollins – Good depth at center, can still play, good value.
14. EDampier – Good depth at center, can still play, good value.
15. VRadmanovic – Early success, streaky shooter, injured late.
16. JPargo – Early success, but horrid playoffs, injured late.

1. Where does Horford play next season C or PF?
2. If PF, trade Josh for best player available or Top 5 pick.
3. Move ZaZa to starting C position, contract expires next season.
4. Keep or Trade Marvin? Probably can get a late lottery pick – 15/16.
5. With 2/3 1st rd picks target: 1. 6′11, PF, Perry Jones, Baylor 2. 6′9, G/F, Quincy Miller, Baylor 3. 7′0, C, Fab Melo, Syracuse; 4. 6′4, G, John Jenkins, Vandy
6. Acquire Free Agent veteran point guard – Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Chauncey Billups…

2012-2013 Hawks

JTerry JTeague JPargo
JJohnson WGreen _______
TMcGrady QMiller IJohnson
AHorford PJones JCollins
ZPachulia FMelo EDampier

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
7:25 pm

Happy Mother’s Day! (RIP)

DawgNole
SlimJr

Empathy for your losses, been there with you both.
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Happy Mother’s Day!

To all my cohorts on this here blog. Much love, peace and respect to everyone here, and, all the hawks players & coaches too.

Sautee

May 13th, 2012
7:30 pm

“And, when Horford sees him again, he might pee on his leg and, run the other way.”

LOL.

Though I will say that Horford has matched up well against Hibbert in the past. Last year, in 4 games, Hibbert had 46 points and 41 rebounds. Al had 55 points and 38 rebounds. Considering that Al gives up 5 inches and about 15 lbs., I’d say he holds his own against Hibbert.

But that was still a funny line!

Just Joe

May 13th, 2012
7:34 pm

Remember when you suggest Josh Smith trades:

1) trade kicker. New team pays him $15M+.
2) only has one year on his deal. New team must feel confident they can re-sign him long term.

Do any of the projected top 5 teams in the draft seem like places where Josh wants to sign a new deal? I’m still predicting Houston, Brooklyn, or Philly, if anywhere.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
7:37 pm

Chris Bosh Injury: Updates on Heat Star’s Abdominal Injury
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If the Miami Heat are going to take a 1-0 series lead over the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference semifinals, they’ll have to do so without the services of Chris Bosh.

According to ESPN NBA insider Tom Haberstroh, Bosh will not return to Game 1 at AmericanAirlines Arena on account of a lower abdominal strain.

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The All-Star forward suffered the injury late in the first half, when Indiana’s Roy Hibbert fouled him on a drive through the lane that ended in a dunk.

Heat head coach Erik Spoelstra started Ronny Turiaf in Bosh’s place in the second half.

Bosh had enjoyed an efficient half on the offensive end, scoring 13 points on 6-of-11 shooting and pulling down five rebounds. However, he struggled to subdue the Pacers frontcourt on defense as the Heat went into the locker room with a six-point deficit.

Bosh had averaged 15.0 points and 7.2 rebounds during Miami’s five-game series win over the New York Knicks. Without him, the Heat will have to lean heavily on Turiaf, Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem to absorb minutes in the middle and LeBron James and Dwyane Wade to replace his production offensively.
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Bosh is a wrap for this series, perhaps the post season in it’s entirety. An abdominal strain? He will swell and feel worse over the next 7-10 days. The tenderness and strain will make the muscle weak and useless without proper rest. If Chris tries to man up and return early, it may tear completely.

Granted, we don’t know the severity of this strain, nor the specific muscle(s) involved. So, I am assuming the worst case scenario and figuring it is the abdominal rectus (the “six pack” muscle group).

Oh well, Get Well Soon Chris!

Unfortunately, this is season has been a war of attrition and, only the strong will survive and reign supreme. Let’s Go Pacers!

Slimjr

May 13th, 2012
7:38 pm

Your the best dramryb…Thanks!

Slimjr

May 13th, 2012
7:39 pm

[drmaryb]^^^^^

Slimjr

May 13th, 2012
7:42 pm

or just kick him in the shin and run! lol!

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
7:54 pm

“Do any of the projected top 5 teams in the draft seem like places where Josh wants to sign a new deal? I’m still predicting Houston, Brooklyn, or Philly, if anywhere.” -just joe-
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I guess the ping-pong balls will rank the top 5ive teams, (the system in place to prevent the bad teams from playing possum & suck-for-luck) unlike the NFL where you can play down for the #1 pick.

Just Joe, IDK who the top 5 worst teams are in the NBA but, do you think Josh would want to lead a re-building team at age 27/28? Or, go to a seasoned contender like Boston? We all know if Mr. Woodson gets a new deal, The Knicks are out of the question, besides Melo is the ball hogger that Joe Johnson is not. LOL! Amare’ already regrets the Melo Hog Factor, (see his left hand string the glass).

Melo over there taking 40 shots per game and, Denver blossomed as a team when he left. Josh will find himself in an untenable situation when he looks around. Is he willing to sacrifice his personal stats to win a ring? If so, the ball hog Kobe and the Lakers might be a good spot for him and the Hawks. The Lakers may be willing to overpay Josh as well.

Money is no obstacle in LA when it comes to winning rings. The flip side is that Kobe is an azz of a person and teammate. No room for an extra alpha dog there, just hard work and a lunch pail.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
7:55 pm

* (see his left hand STRIKING the glass).

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
7:57 pm

Kobe’s Mother, Father and Wife & Kids don’t even like this guy. Why is he such a miserable man?

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:04 pm

Man Child!

Sautee LOL, I know … Horford is quicker and more agile than “Hibbits” (in Nique’s voice) but, Sautee … Hibbits is all grown up now. He plays with more confidence and force than ever before. Like you said, Horford has always out played him but, now? IDK?

Hibbits is a man child now. Not only did he take Horford’s man hood, he also took his All Star spot to back up Dwight in the East. He may never relinquish that vote to Al again. If Al get’s back to the All Star Game, it will be as a back up to Roy with Dwight playing in the west.

Unless, Al get the fans vote and, not rely on the coaches selection. we shall soon see.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:06 pm

“or just kick him in the shin and run! lol!” – slimjr-
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Haha … I love that! Al may not have to evil heart to do it, maybe he can pay Ivan that 25k fine money and, get him to do it? Debo will kick Roy in the nuts and flip his Mamma the bird too, probably for half that amount. LOL

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
8:12 pm

Just Joe

May 13th, 2012
7:34 pm

Remember when you suggest Josh Smith trades:

1) trade kicker. New team pays him $15M+.
2) only has one year on his deal. New team must feel confident they can re-sign him long term.

Do any of the projected top 5 teams in the draft seem like places where Josh wants to sign a new deal? I’m still predicting Houston, Brooklyn, or Philly, if anywhere.

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Both Cleveland and Sacramento will pay for Josh’s services. Charlotte definitely will. As for those markets being desirable, Sacramento has a fan base that would celebrate what Josh does. I just don’t know if they could handle both Smith and Cousins from a mental standpoint.

Josh along with Kyrie Irving would make an interesting 1 – 2 duo up there. Charlotte would market their entire franchise around him, and he could probably take as many shots as he wanted.

Washington would fit right in with the gunners on that team. If they traded Nene to us, that’s the deal you do.

From a fan support standpoint, all of those markets with the exception of Charlotte and Sacramento, are better than ATL. And when the Kings are a playoff level ballclub, they support that team unconditionally.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
8:13 pm

northcyde
May 13th, 2012
5:51 pm

It’s not about ATL fans being Boston fans. It’ about ATL fans supporting their team to the point that they don’t let another team’s fans take over the their building.

You see the same thing in the NFL, when it comes to Pittsburgh Steelers fans. They’re everywhere. And that fan base will literally take over a stadium with a weak fan base.
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And how have the Steelers done in the postseason the past 44 years? And how many championships have the Steelers won in that timeframe?

It’s about a team giving its fans some semblance of hope–something to cheer about–when it counts (in the playoffs)! This isn’t the Hawks’ first year–or second, or third, or fourth, etc. In 44 years, this team/organization has progressed not one iota, and thus has not given its fans realistic expectations for a championship–quite unlike the Celtics and Steelers.

When is enough enough?

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:16 pm

Just Joe

Who would you want and we can realistically get for Josh from Boston or The Lakers in return? I don’t they will have any high picks, so we have to look at their roster or, involve 3 maybe 5 teams to get something good back.

I hope we get a Real GM to make the deal so we can get what we NEED to balance this roster and not just who they want to send back to us. No more PF’s, TWEENERS and , COMBO GUARDS please.

We need solid positional players who know their roles and limitations that plays within themselves and their abilities. Like a Tony Allen who was coached by Doc Rivers before he blossomed in Memphis.

A player that: Do what you do and, not what you don’t! Maybe they can take Marvin too and, send us back a rebounder/defender, Reggie Evans.

I would send Josh to Denver for Faried straight up! Denver might do that.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:18 pm

* I don’t THINK they will have any high picks …

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
8:23 pm

From a fan support standpoint, all of those markets with the exception of Charlotte and Sacramento, are better than ATL. And when the Kings are a playoff level ballclub, they support that team unconditionally.
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so just Cleveland then?

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:39 pm

NBA ‏ @NBA
Take a closer look at the special bond between @DenverNuggets center @JaValeMcGee34 & his mother Pamela McGee.
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I feel sorry for Javale’s future wife. She will have some “Oedipus Complex” issues going on for real. LOL

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:40 pm

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
8:44 pm

I hope Miami NEVER wins a ring.

Shamrock

May 13th, 2012
9:03 pm

I told NAJEH DAVENPOOP that the Hawks would fold in crunch time, like they always do…. and that ALL CAPS letters was pointless. And i know that NAJEH likes little boys round behinds…..

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
9:07 pm

Shamrock
May 13th, 2012
9:03 pm

I told NAJEH DAVENPOOP that the Hawks would fold in crunch time, like they always do…. and that ALL CAPS letters was pointless. And i know that NAJEH likes little boys round behinds…..
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Seems like you posted this same idiot comment earlier. You must like writing (and dreaming) about those little behinds.

Certainly doesn’t say a whole lot for you and your fellow Celtics fans.