Atlanta Hawks: NBA admits blown call in Game 6 (plus notes)

The NBA said Marquis Daniels should have been called sooner for fouling Al Horford on an inbound play with 3.1 seconds left in Game 6. If game officials had made the correct call the Hawks, who trailed 81-79 at the time, would have been awarded a free throw and possession of the ball.

The league posted a link with an explanation on one of its official Twitter accounts:

During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime, if a personal foul is assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in, it is considered an Away-From-The-Play Foul and the offensive team is awarded one free throw and possession of the ball. With 3.1 seconds remaining in the the Boston-Atlanta game last night, a foul was called on the Celtics’ Marquis Daniels after the Hawks’ Marvin Williams had released the ball and therefore the foul was correctly treated as a common foul and not an Away-From-the-Play foul. With that said, however, the replay shows that the foul on Daniels should have been called sooner than it was by the officials, in which case it would have met the requirements of an Away-From-The-Play Foul.

I watched the video numerous times and it’s very close as to whether Daniels was called for a foul before Marvin released the ball. In any event, league spokesman Tim Frank said the rules do not give game officials the option to look at a video replay to determine when the ball is thrown in or when a foul is committed.

Of course there is no recourse for the Hawks, who protested the call during the game. Coach Larry Drew said game officials told him Daniels fouled Horford after Williams released the ball.

“That would have been a huge play, a huge turn of events,” Josh Smith said.

Horford said game officials didn’t offer the players much of an explanation.

“We knew we were on the road and we weren’t going to get anything [and] we were going to have to earn everything we got so it was no surprise they didn’t call the foul earlier,” he said. “He was grabbing me the whole time.”

Notes from exit interview day

  • Drew said neither he nor his agent have talked to Hawks management about his contract option for next season. He said he planned to “get away for a few days” before taking up the issue next week.
  • Not sure how much there is to the Chris Broussard report linking Rick Sund to the Portland GM opening. Hawks owners have expressed an interest in re-signing Sund but haven’t made a formal offer. Sund has told people he may be interested in a part-time consulting role with the Hawks or another team and also is considering retirement.
  • Josh didn’t have much to say about his future, except to repeat “I’m under contract for one more year with the Hawks” and remind media that he could be fined for talking about the reports of his trade request. His trade request still stands for all the reasons I reported before the trade deadline. I’m told another factor that can be added to the list is his desire to play in what he believes to be a better basketball market. But I’m sure you might have inferred that from the way Josh (without prompting) contrasted Boston’s fans with Atlanta’s throughout the series.
  • Al said he would resume rehabilitation for his pectoral. “I’m very limited,” he said. “I made a lot of progress in two weeks but I’m about 50 or 60 percent strength.” He reiterated that he didn’t feel comfortable returning before Game 4: “I knew I had a ways to go. Even when I came back, I felt limited. I gave it all I had for the team and for the city. Our city had big expectations for us. It was unfortunate we had a number of injuries and couldn’t do what we wanted.”
  • Drew wouldn’t say exactly went wrong on Atlanta’s penultimate possession, which ended with Josh missing a 22-footer, except to say the ball was supposed to go to Joe Johnson. I watched the replay a few times and best I can tell is that Josh was supposed to set a pick to free Joe to cut to the basket or, if Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass switched, end up in the high post against Pierce. However, it looked as if Josh released his screen too soon and stepped out to the perimeter.
  • Al on the play: “We drew up a play. I thought it was a pretty good play. I got it and swung it to Josh. Joe, they did a good job denying him, so Josh forced up a tough shot. It didn’t go down.”
  • Mike Prada at SB Nation has a different interpretation of the play. He thinks the first option was for Al to feed Josh the ball on the left block. That doesn’t jibe with Drew’s explanation but both could be true considering Drew’s plays have multiple options. Prada also thinks the Celtics got away with a lot of clutching and grabbing on the play. (H/T Jason Walker of Peachtree Hoops).

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

653 comments Add your comment

Melvin

May 13th, 2012
2:43 pm

Watching Memphis/LAC gave makes my stomach turn. Paul and Gay are two players that could have been Hawks… Thanks Billy Knight. I hope Rick Sund join you as Ex-Hawks GM this offseason as well.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
2:53 pm

Grandad
May 11th, 2012
3:21 am

Tonite I must get a few things off my chest . . . .

I really do not care for the attitude that DogNole takes; in that 43 yrs ago had nothing to do with these kids who played tonight.
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NEVER will you find a post in which I’ve blamed today’s players for this team’s failures 43 years ago (or 42, or 41, or 40, or 39) because no such post exists. Please stop fabricating.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
2:58 pm

Rick L
May 11th, 2012
8:36 am

Man it is hard being an ATL sports fan! Hawks, Braves, Falcons……. what is the common thread?
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Don’t forget the Flames and Thrashers.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:01 pm

The Hawks are simply too soft for playoff basketball. When you look at this Memphis – LA Clippers game, they’re damn near killing each other in the paint and out on the perimeter. Most of our guys shy away or are literally afraid of contact, and would be crying like a bunch of punks in a game like this.

Boston got physical with us, especially in the final minutes of games, and we couldn’t respond with the right amount of force.

Our coach is soft. All of our stars are soft. The one tough guy on the team ( Ivan ) was always told to reign himself in by the coach and didn’t get much playing time. The other tough guy ( Zaza ) was hurt and couldn’t go.

If the ownership is serious about bringing a championship to ATL, or at least putting us in position to make a deep run in the playoffs, they have to bring in a General Manager that understands how to construct a playoff tough basketball team. A team that isn’t scared of physical contact . . from the big men to the guards.

You can be “nice” and be “tough” at the same time. But we’re “nice” and play “timid” out on the court. The “core” will never get to the next level, until they understand this.

I’m in that camp that believes we should throw the BANK at Jerry Sloan. If it’s one guy who will bring out the toughness in these guys, it’s him. And an idiot like Michael Gearon will realize that “dirty basketball” is simply part of the game. Winners don’t whine and cry when they’re grabbed and held. They simply break out of that hold with more force and get the job done.

Gearon should pay Ivan’s 25K fine as well. Idiot.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
3:07 pm

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 11th, 2012
7:52 am

Ppl here are pleased with our season and want the core back!!!

LOL!!!

DawgNole where u at homie??
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I’m here, JeJe. Finally got caught up with the MC blog comments. Looks like I’m almost alone on here right now.

Had a house full of guests from Boston (of all places) last weekend. They were gracious in victory (games 3 & 4), but I never got a chance to watch a Hawks win with them. So I don’t know how pleasant they would’ve been in defeat.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:13 pm

Rod from College Park

May 13th, 2012
4:21 am

Yet they put up 91 points on that great Celtics defense, and we averaged 81ppg in the series, but some people think defense was the problem.

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They scored 91 points in one game vs the Celtics . . . and lost.

So why did they lose? Because they couldn’t stop the Celtics in the 4th quarter.

DEFENSE.

Orlando was an offensive team . . they’re at home

Denver was an offensive team . . they put up a good fight, but they’re at home

Knicks were a wannabe offensive team . . they’re at home

Let’s see if the Clippers offense or defense will bring them home. Right now, they’re playing tremendous defense in this 4th quarter and shutting the Griz down. Clippers up by 8 with a little under 9 minutes to go. Outscored the Griz 11 – 2 in the quarter so far.

LOL @ you constantly looking at regular season PPG averages, knowing that most good teams destroy bad opponents to inflate that PPG number. This is playoff basketball man. Where about 25% of the teams in a game will score over 90 points and maybe 10% of teams in a game will score 100.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
3:15 pm

Blog Monster works on Sunday too? Duplicate comment, but they wont upload it? whatever.

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
3:16 pm

Najeh,

Not looking food for Memphis.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:18 pm

Kenyon Martin and Reggie Evans doing WORK on the defensive end. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are on the bench, and the Clipper bench is extending this lead. Just great work by them defensively and offensively in transition.

Astro Joe

May 13th, 2012
3:19 pm

Yeah, some of us have been frustrated by the Hawks softness for going on 4+ years. We finally get a rookie tough guy and dude is 27 years-old (older than Josh, Marvin & Al). Hawks are physically and mentally soft… need to trade at least 2 captains to make a true cultural change (and of course, change out the coaching staff).

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 13th, 2012
3:21 pm

DawgNole,

Sorry about my comment the other night, was just pissed our team was doing so miserably. Hope you are well

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
3:21 pm

Loserville
May 11th, 2012
7:25 am

One fluke title in atl pro sports since 1966—a baseball title in a strike year. Every other team—choke. Maybe the atl owner can call out another player next year in a key game!!!! Come to New York for championships and titles!!! I miss Brooklyn—hopefully I can move back next year.
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We hope so too.

“Championships and titles”? Yeah, how bout them Knickabockas!

Astro Joe

May 13th, 2012
3:22 pm

That’s also why I’ve advocated for Bill Laimbeer in the recent past. If you can’t get a few tough guys in the starting line-up, get one on the bench. If nothing else, he would set the tone for the team. I doubt that he would take them to a title, but it would be an incremental step in the right direction.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:23 pm

O’Brien . . Memphis simply need to get stops and get rebounds. But Reggie Evans isn’t letting anything get past him. Dude is WORKING in the paint. A guy like Rick Sund doesn’t even have the sense to bring a guy like that in, despite Reggie once being a Sonic that HE brought in.

Hawks need to be constructed right. Give us a banger down low, and a defensive perimeter monster to guard people.

Grizzlies are OK. But it may come down to Chris Paul willing the Clips to victory. If I’m Del Negro, I SERIOUSLY think about NOT bringing Blake Griffin back into this game. Ride Reggie until the wheels fall off.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:24 pm

Astro . . I got no problem with that. Laimbeer, Sloan, any coach that understands that NBA playoff basketball is a PHYSICAL WAR, not some jumpshooting offensive lovefest.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:28 pm

Conley having a HORRIBLE game. Griz don’t have a backup PG worth a damn to sub for him, unless they play Tony Allen at the point.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:30 pm

Reggie refusing to let Z-Bo get position to get the ball down low, which cause Gasol to drive to the hole out of control. Memphis may be in trouble now. Cant let the Clips score the rest of the game.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:33 pm

7 point lead with a minute to go . . this game is about over, barring some miracle.

Astro Joe

May 13th, 2012
3:33 pm

KMart going for the double-double in Game 7. And some thought that he wouldn’t help the Hawks. Sometimes, its good to have a bully or 3 on your team.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
3:35 pm

Dwayne C
May 11th, 2012
6:41 am

As usual the Hawks coach and players give themselves a pat on the back after falling short in the playoffs. It is this kind of attitude and culture of the Atlanta Hawks that has to change before this team can ever become a serious contender for an NBA championship. Me, I’m not optimistic it will ever happen, given some of the players on the Hawks’ roster, milquetoast head coach Larry Drew, inept GM Rick Sund and equally inept owner Michael Gearon.. Hawks fans can, I think, expect more of the same in coming years from this team: a decent W-L record during the season and then watching the Hawks become fodder for a playoff opponent who is more motivated to win.
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“Attitude and culture.” Hate to say it again, but I think you’ve hit on something there. It’s the “attitude and culture” permeating this organization from the very start that have contributed mightily to its playoff failures–year after year.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:38 pm

Jeff Van Gundy: “The Clippers made a decision in this quarter to play harder . . to play tougher . . to play with more physical force.”

It’s almost what Kevin Garnett said in his post-game press conference concerning Gearon calling him a “dirty player”. KG basically said that the Celtics play with aggression and with physical force. Physical force in the playoffs may mean grabbing and holding and illegal screens.

Too bad for the Griz. This was a favorable matchup for them, and they blew the series with that Game 1 loss when they could’ve taken the heart out of the Clippers. Never thought they’d lose 2 playoff games on their home court.

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
3:40 pm

MC,

Whats up with the blog monster?

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
3:40 pm

As much as I like Josh Smith, I think he needs a change of scenery (like Zach Randolph) to fulfill his enormous potential.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:42 pm

Can’t rely on streak shooters to consistently win playoff games for you

OJ Mayo:

4 points . . 7 rebounds . . 1 – 11 FG . . ( -22 ) plus/minus on the floor . . in 24 minutes

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
3:44 pm

This offseason, Rick Sund signed a bunch of vet min players. Pargo, Willie Green, T-Mac, Vlad etc.

But ask yourself this question. How many of them were known for their defense or rebounding? What does that tell you? LD and Rick is all about offense, despite their comments to the contrary.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
3:46 pm

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 13th, 2012
3:21 pm

DawgNole,

Sorry about my comment the other night, was just pissed our team was doing so miserably. Hope you are well
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I appreciate that, JeJe.

As you said back then, it’s just so damn emotional following these Hawks–especially in the playoffs. It may surprise some on here, but many of us who take a “negative” (I think we call it “realistic”) approach to the organization are still passionate fans who want more than anything for the team to WIN. Those are my feelings anyway. It’s no fun at all following a playoff failure for all these years, with so little hope for change.

Melvin

May 13th, 2012
3:47 pm

I’m all for bringing in Jerry Sloan. I also like Mo Cheeks as well.

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
3:48 pm

AJ,

Some fans didnt think Javale McGee would help us either. But yet he averaged 9 pts, 10 rebs, and 3 blocks in 26 mpg against the Lakers in the playoffs.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
3:53 pm

drmaryb.(*_*).
May 13th, 2012
3:15 pm

Blog Monster works on Sunday too? Duplicate comment, but they wont upload it? whatever.
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Infuriating, isn’t it? Well, it is to me anyway.

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O’brien
May 13th, 2012
3:40 pm

MC,

Whats up with the blog monster?
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I hope you aren’t holding your breath awaiting a reply.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
3:57 pm

LOL . . . Indiana making it look eaaaasy.

northcyde

May 13th, 2012
4:00 pm

Uh oh . . . Heat have a HUGE matchup problem with Hibbert. They’re going to have to slash and attack the paint on offense, in order to get Hibbert in foul trouble.

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
4:01 pm

Enter your comments here

doc

May 13th, 2012
4:02 pm

go pacers

anybody but the heat

DawgNole

May 13th, 2012
4:02 pm

northcyde
May 11th, 2012
4:49 am

And some of you fans need to stop being so sensitive about Josh’s comments. His comments are the absolute TRUTH. There were literally 5,000 Boston fans in that building on Tuesday. And most of then were in the lower bowl.

So what is Josh supposed to think, when he sees the crowd looking like Christmas decorations, with all of the red with green sprinkled everywhere. The crowd IS an issue in Atlanta. Name whatever reason WHY it is . . but it IS an issue.

If you go to the games and cheer for the Hawks, Josh obviously wasn’t talking about you. But what else SHOULD he think, when he sees all of those Boston fans on his home court?
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Maybe he SHOULD think, “Geez, I wonder how this organization has done over the years in ATL (all 44 of them) as far as bringing our city’s fans something to get excited about?”

Then maybe he’ll understand why ATL fans aren’t Boston fans.

O'brien

May 13th, 2012
4:02 pm

Northcyde,

Instead of giving the Clippers credit for the defense they played, Rod will say the Grizzlies needed more offense.

That being said, I think both of you are correct. The Hawks need to play better defense, but they also need more timely offense. And that goes back to the construction of the roster.

I also think we need better PG play. I like Teague, but he is more of a scoring guard. Watching these teams in the playoffs, one thing I have noticed is when they get the rebound, more often that not, they pass it to the PG. But on the Hawks, Josh (and Al at times) are always bringing it up.

If possible, i would go after a guy like jason Kidd or Steve Nash.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
4:10 pm

O’Brien

“Some fans didnt think Javale McGee would help us either. But yet he averaged 9 pts, 10 rebs, and 3 blocks in 26 mpg against the Lakers in the playoffs.”
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But, we don’t have the right coach to reign in hard headed players like Javale McGee & his meddlesome Mamma. Those two are a package deal, she would probably be in the locker room un-coaching Drew simultaneously. George Karl is no nonsense or, you see the bench.

Bottom line, we need a Real Coach to put a foot on some necks. Not “bench a rookie” and, dole out hugs in the tunnel with apologies, post games.

doc

May 13th, 2012
4:16 pm

dawg i posted from a starbucks in san fran about josh’s comments. northcyde also needs to reflect hard on what it is like being a fan of teams from atl before cracking on them. josh had a chance to turn the tide and failed or maybe i dhould say glail after reverting back to his knuclehead style of play. it was slmost oredictable psychologically as sl comes back to be a resl leader and josh has to sulk argue snd turn into the immature idiot he is rather yhsn the mature imposter we saw mist of the season.

earlier i said it was ill timed. now that i reflect a little lnger especially i light of al looking healthy it gives me pause to say like his ill timed jump shots this neleaves me thinking get rid of hom for some quality ballers with heads on thrir shoulders and build around al jeff and jj. so it wasnt ipl timed at all but reminded me of how bad you still need a sport shrink.

now get a coach that will tell gearon to stfu and one who will work emlike doc does.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
4:20 pm

Greener Pastures!

“Then maybe he’ll understand why ATL fans aren’t Boston fans” -DawgNole-
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Josh better be careful though, In Boston he will be leashed. No more point forwarding, kami-kaze passes, poor shot selection and 18 shots per game. He may even be used off the bench and, not as a starter. The new role from the coaches who refuse to vote him onto the All Star Rosters, see him as a defensive specialist and post player only and, not as a jump shooter.

Limiting his stat stuffing ways in a new city will be a huge point of contention for Josh, he will be irately unhappy and, not used as a potential starting all star, but strictly as a role player. I just hope he understands this and, one more thing … no other team will pay max-salary for those services @ a 5 years term.

The most value Josh will see as an UFA is in Atlanta, with the bird rules in effect, in a free reign starters role on a non-contender. So, the real question for Josh is:

Will I give up my personal stats in exchange for a title quest with a limited role on a better team concept? In other words … I may not be THE man.

doc

May 13th, 2012
4:25 pm

boy iphones eat me up

hard to proof em on such a short screen and not all touches go or are correct

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
4:32 pm

doc,

Even with my good, strong, small, steady doctor hands … I stick with the old skool BlackBerry. I have got to feel and push real buttons. I ordered the Apple 4S iphone one minute and cancelled my order the next. I don’t even have the heart to deal with a talking phone (SIRI) and, a pain in the azz – touch screen and, I have never even touched one.

I’m just sayin’. Stick to what you know. LOL

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
4:36 pm

Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams to New York for Amare Stoudamire, Tony Douglas, and a S&T Landry Fields.

Great Idea if you can make those New York Suckas take the Bait. Amare has twice as much heart as “Average Joe”

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
4:41 pm

I hope the Hawks are watching the remaining playoff games so that they can see “how” to properly close out games. Playoff shot selection. Playoff defense. Protecting the rim. The Atlanta Hawks “Grossly” underachieved this basketball season. Shame on them…

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
4:41 pm

Amare causes more problems here. Now you got 3 PF’s that need touches, no willing center and, no SG, no SF.

Hawks need a bonafide big man center, back up PG or starting one who can dish. Just get a Real GM and, tell steven a smith to keep his day job.

doc

May 13th, 2012
4:43 pm

does josh think going to a new city will have fans that can help him make those critical game winners the atlanta fans would love anyone make? or does he think a new city with real fans will make a difference in his shooting percentages outside the paint where he shot himself and he hawks out of a series. or does he think a new city will keep him from being punked by an elder citizen? will real fans put up with his bone head insolence?

go find out josh, go find out but send us two smart regulars back and maybe even a third rotation player to do a mans job:

doc

May 13th, 2012
4:47 pm

o’ b what was he 17/43 out side the paint. old man kg intimidated the hell out of him.

dmb thank you for understanding

prefer my peckng non cap mac

loading up to fly back

Tank

May 13th, 2012
4:49 pm

Josh Smith and Marvin Williams trade to Phoenix for S&T Steve Nash,Gortat, and Grant Hill. Dont know if the salaries match but we get a great point in Steve, a improving center in Gortat, and great 3 man in Hill.

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
4:57 pm

Not a bad ide, HOWEVER, Grant Hill will be turing 59 years old this Offseason. We need draft picks to rescue this poor excuse of a franchise.

Tank

May 13th, 2012
4:49 pm

Josh Smith and Marvin Williams trade to Phoenix for S&T Steve Nash,Gortat, and Grant Hill. Dont know if the salaries match but we get a great point in Steve, a improving center in Gortat, and great 3 man in Hill.

“Happy mothers’ day to all you MOTHERS out their.”

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
5:00 pm

I am “sick and tired of Chris Broussard” This guy thinks that his stuff don’t stink. He ought to be selling insurance..Magic Johnson, how dare he to crticize coaching. He was as bad a coach as
Michael Jordan is an Owner.

steven a smith

May 13th, 2012
5:02 pm

Agreed.

I would do anything to get rid of Joe “no show” Johnson.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 13th, 2012
4:41 pm

Amare causes more problems here.Now you got 3 PF’s that need touches, no willing center and, no SG, no SF.

Tank

May 13th, 2012
5:04 pm

All those commentators think their stuff dont stink. They are so called “experts” and they know everything. Please