Atlanta Hawks: NBA admits blown call in Game 6 (plus notes)
9:20 pm May 11, 2012, by Michael Cunningham
The NBA said Marquis Daniels should have been called sooner for fouling Al Horford on an inbound play with 3.1 seconds left in Game 6. If game officials had made the correct call the Hawks, who trailed 81-79 at the time, would have been awarded a free throw and possession of the ball.
The league posted a link with an explanation on one of its official Twitter accounts:
During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime, if a personal foul is assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in, it is considered an Away-From-The-Play Foul and the offensive team is awarded one free throw and possession of the ball. With 3.1 seconds remaining in the the Boston-Atlanta game last night, a foul was called on the Celtics’ Marquis Daniels after the Hawks’ Marvin Williams had released the ball and therefore the foul was correctly treated as a common foul and not an Away-From-the-Play foul. With that said, however, the replay shows that the foul on Daniels should have been called sooner than it was by the officials, in which case it would have met the requirements of an Away-From-The-Play Foul.
I watched the video numerous times and it’s very close as to whether Daniels was called for a foul before Marvin released the ball. In any event, league spokesman Tim Frank said the rules do not give game officials the option to look at a video replay to determine when the ball is thrown in or when a foul is committed.
Of course there is no recourse for the Hawks, who protested the call during the game. Coach Larry Drew said game officials told him Daniels fouled Horford after Williams released the ball.
“That would have been a huge play, a huge turn of events,” Josh Smith said.
Horford said game officials didn’t offer the players much of an explanation.
“We knew we were on the road and we weren’t going to get anything [and] we were going to have to earn everything we got so it was no surprise they didn’t call the foul earlier,” he said. “He was grabbing me the whole time.”
Notes from exit interview day
- Drew said neither he nor his agent have talked to Hawks management about his contract option for next season. He said he planned to “get away for a few days” before taking up the issue next week.
- Not sure how much there is to the Chris Broussard report linking Rick Sund to the Portland GM opening. Hawks owners have expressed an interest in re-signing Sund but haven’t made a formal offer. Sund has told people he may be interested in a part-time consulting role with the Hawks or another team and also is considering retirement.
- Josh didn’t have much to say about his future, except to repeat “I’m under contract for one more year with the Hawks” and remind media that he could be fined for talking about the reports of his trade request. His trade request still stands for all the reasons I reported before the trade deadline. I’m told another factor that can be added to the list is his desire to play in what he believes to be a better basketball market. But I’m sure you might have inferred that from the way Josh (without prompting) contrasted Boston’s fans with Atlanta’s throughout the series.
- Al said he would resume rehabilitation for his pectoral. “I’m very limited,” he said. “I made a lot of progress in two weeks but I’m about 50 or 60 percent strength.” He reiterated that he didn’t feel comfortable returning before Game 4: “I knew I had a ways to go. Even when I came back, I felt limited. I gave it all I had for the team and for the city. Our city had big expectations for us. It was unfortunate we had a number of injuries and couldn’t do what we wanted.”
- Drew wouldn’t say exactly went wrong on Atlanta’s penultimate possession, which ended with Josh missing a 22-footer, except to say the ball was supposed to go to Joe Johnson. I watched the replay a few times and best I can tell is that Josh was supposed to set a pick to free Joe to cut to the basket or, if Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass switched, end up in the high post against Pierce. However, it looked as if Josh released his screen too soon and stepped out to the perimeter.
- Al on the play: “We drew up a play. I thought it was a pretty good play. I got it and swung it to Josh. Joe, they did a good job denying him, so Josh forced up a tough shot. It didn’t go down.”
- Mike Prada at SB Nation has a different interpretation of the play. He thinks the first option was for Al to feed Josh the ball on the left block. That doesn’t jibe with Drew’s explanation but both could be true considering Drew’s plays have multiple options. Prada also thinks the Celtics got away with a lot of clutching and grabbing on the play. (H/T Jason Walker of Peachtree Hoops).
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
653 comments Add your comment
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 14th, 2012
9:45 pm
That is way too much for Bynum. ZaZa is wayyyyyy undervalued by most fAns here
BIG DOG
May 14th, 2012
9:46 pm
Grandmaster JeJe – Sorry bro with Grizzles losing, Easy path for Thunders.
Thunders 2012 Champions.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
teedub
May 14th, 2012
9:46 pm
I can’t blame Josh for wanting to play in a better market. Thanks to all of you lame “I’m not spending another dime at Philips until…”. That’s what happens when your fans are, at best, fair weather.
DawgNole
May 14th, 2012
9:47 pm
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
9:35 pm
Garnett finally got called for setting an illegal pick near the end of the game and it was a game changing turnover….Shocked the refs even called it against the Celtics….
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“Payback” for the shaft they (the refs) poked ATL with in Round 1. Too bad the Hawks couldn’t have been the beneficiaries.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 14th, 2012
9:47 pm
Gearon made his comments and we did not get one call that emtire game.
Phil Jax would’ve swayed fhe whole ref crew with one sentence.
We really are not a “real basketball team,” with this coaching staff and terrible front office.
Team is reflection of coach…quiet timid frail
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
May 14th, 2012
9:48 pm
Need Lakers to beat Thunder. That is SAS’s best shot at Finals.
Looking forward to seeing Duncan shut Griffin’s overrated azz down
DawgNole
May 14th, 2012
9:50 pm
teedub
May 14th, 2012
9:46 pm
I can’t blame Josh for wanting to play in a better market. Thanks to all of you lame “I’m not spending another dime at Philips until…”. That’s what happens when your fans are, at best, fair weather.
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Quit blaming the fans. There’s been precious little fair weather for this city’s pro sports fans–ever.
Mark
May 14th, 2012
9:52 pm
@teedub
I can’t blame the fans for not coming to games to watch a power forward shoot long shots, make dumb turnovers, and try and lead fast breaks instead of passing it to his point guard. So Josh and his DUMB, RETARDED BASKETBALL IQ CAN GO!
KevinM
May 14th, 2012
10:01 pm
Nothing is going to happen until we hear whether Pendergraft or Sund will be the guy in charge. Then comes the head coach signing and whether LD gets a long term deal.
Then the draft……then it will be determined who stays and goes. This is going to be a long offseason.
Rufus1
May 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
Barkley and Kenny(The shoulder Monkey)… Making excuses for the Celtics by saying the call was “BAD”…..WOW
Some of you ppl think this man speaks knowledge, but he has an agenda.
That was a BAD call(Per Barkley), but the foul on Al wasn’t??????
The NBA can’t let the Celtics get away with those lat game fouls after what happen to the Hawks.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 14th, 2012
10:21 pm
RED Restaurant!
“Our steaks are injected with pink slime & floor scrappings” Mmmm Good.
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cp
May 14th, 2012
10:22 pm
@KevinM. I was just saying the other day that if Sund leaves I’m sure it will be Pendergraft who takes over. Pendergraft seems to know talent but I have no clue how well he would be with the cap and with trades.
brigadierjerry
May 14th, 2012
10:28 pm
Maybe if our STUPID Drew had argued with the refs maybe we would have gotten some illegal screens called against Boston. No he would rather yell at Teague and Ivan John
Bingo!!If you work the officials during the game, they are going to pay attention to it if you bark long enough. It happens in all sports when you complain.
LD doesnt do that and that hurts the team overall getting calls. Doug Collins is a pro and was calling the refs out tonight. Noticed KG got three offensive calls for illegall picks before that one with 10 seconds left.LD needs to do this. Big time coaches do this.
doc
May 14th, 2012
10:36 pm
Astro Joe
May 14th, 2012
7:07 pm
There has been some venom, but I think that is to be expected. I happen to agree with Ra’mon, I think Atlanta has a below average fan base across all of the pro sports. Too many Atlantans seem to think their fandom should be conditional… if you win, then I will be your fan.
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very funny aj, this comment is from the guy formerly known as anakin joe? the dark man of the blog for over a year?
maybe it is more schizo joe?
this is also the 21st century and any fan base is fickle except the most die hard towns with years of history that except for the cubs includes winning and i add the white sox arent neart the draw even though they have had winning years including a world series or two. history helps, blue collar towns with three or four generations, only game in town, etc. also work. if you notice none of these apply to atlanta which i also might add was one of the hardest hit cities during the last economic down turn. a lot of families thinking they had discretionary incomes dont. when it gets to that point, folks want winners to make themselves feel better about themselves.
yeah, l a has a huge nba following but not so much for their baseball teams lately in the dodgers bad and and angels fair and they lost a football team and cant generate enough interest to get another. lay off the fans. we dont get to make gazillions or talk about leaving because low and behold folks say that is a bad fan. catch 22 big time.
josh, just win dude and it all works. you would be the king and bigger than nique.
BIG DOG
May 14th, 2012
10:38 pm
bridgadierjerry – Bill Lambeer on that inbounds call, Paramedics would had to be there a crime been comitted, JUST DAM.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:38 pm
Boston is tired – Philly is younger.
And don’t count Indy out against the Heat. Indy in 7? I want to pull the trigger on that prediction so bad. The Heat sure don’t look unbeatable to me.
And Indy plays alot of guys, pretty young – they may be fresher than the Heat also.
If Philly beats Boston – Man, this was our year for the ECF or even beyond – esp. with Bosh maybe out awhile!
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:43 pm
Just Joe – I don’t know that much about Vesely. He and the #2 pick (maybe, depends on lottery) for JJ and Marvin – sounds good to me – I just don’t know if the Wiz make that trade.
If they did – a core of Josh, Al, Teague, ZaZa, Vesely, and whoever we took #2 sounds like a great young team.
But we may have the curse of the #2 pick – I don’t know if I risk it. Ha!
Shamrock
May 14th, 2012
10:45 pm
Shucks
Grandad
May 14th, 2012
10:46 pm
DawgNole
Jim Buss is running the show out in LA now.
He scouted then personally espoused and endorsed
the drafting of Bynum. Also now, and rightfully so,
is credited with the foresight to draft AB.
My point:
Bynum is his Guy;
so Jim Buss ain`t gonna trade his Guy !
He would not do the trade straight up for D.Howard
before the season nor, at the deadline.
[I do not blame him]
He will perhaps trade Gasol ?
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:47 pm
Kendrick Perkins OKC = Jason Collins Nets
Tank
May 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
drmaryb, thanks for hooking it up bout the CBA, I wasnt sure about it. Yeah if I was Joe, I guess I would have took the money too, but im liking the trade ideas on here
doc
May 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
attendance figures for the past season:
http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance
i am sure this is the most important stat ever. what does the bottom sixteen teams have in common except for two exceptions and the ten of the top fourteen teams have in common?
hint only twelve have done it in the history of the nba, our team excluded from another city.
also notice where the winning pacers ended up?
DawgNole
May 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
Rufus1
May 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
Barkley and Kenny(The shoulder Monkey)… Making excuses for the Celtics by saying the call was “BAD”…..WOW
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Kenny the shoulder monkey. I like that one, Rufus.
Yeah, it does look like our Hawks were the NBA’s Round 1 sacrificial lamb. They’re trying to make it right now by calling the the Philly-Boston series fairly–even in Boston (gasp).
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:51 pm
OKC punishing the Lakers pretty good to this point – we’ll see if they can keep it up.
If OKC can win in 4 again, it aint’ lookin’ pretty for the rest of the League – unless the Spurs can do the same.
Just Joe
May 14th, 2012
10:53 pm
SteveW…..not the #2 pick….a 2nd rd pick. There’s no way they give up the second overall pick in that deal.
Vesely is raw. 22 yrs old. Combo forward at 6′10″ that finishes at the rim, but has no jumper to speak of. Pretty athletic kid.
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:55 pm
Barkley – Our only tough guy is Ivan? I assume he was talking about healthy for the playoffs – ZaZa is a pretty tough guy.
Kudos to Dampier again for the minutes he gave us the last 3 games or so. He took alot of flack – but when called upon he produced way beyond expectations.
Maybe got an end of the bench job for next season? Keith Benson maybe gets another look.
And I keep thinking we’ll bring in Brad Miller for a backup C also.
Rusty
May 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
Didn’t this team have their full of Larry Drew?
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
Just Joe – Oh – Hmm – I’d have to know more about Vesely to give an opinion on that trade.
Sounds basically like a salary dump type of move, and getting somebody with some potential to boot. If Vesely worked out to become Illyasova or something, may be worth looking at.
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
it was an illegal pick!!
He does it all the time and finally got caught!
SteveW
May 14th, 2012
10:59 pm
GM JeJe – Agreed about ZaZa – He’s def. a top 18 C in the League if not better.
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:00 pm
I hope they sweep the Lakers.. Looking pretty easy so far….
KevinM
May 14th, 2012
11:00 pm
Scola / Budinger / #16 for Josh…..
We end up with an interior rotation of Al/Zaza/Scola
We replace Marvin with a young Budinger, who makes less than 1M and that tells Marvin his days are numbered.
We get the #16 pick and get a replacement for Hinrich….Rivers, Ross, Quincy Miller…..
I sure would pursue this one….
doc
May 14th, 2012
11:02 pm
gdad, l a has become very dysfunctional out there as bush’s kids are running the show along with their former bartender and drinking buddies. not kidding.
i love and hate watching the thunder because they did it right. we blew our chances when we didnt go with deron or paul. we went to the five year plan with a hard ceiling by doing that whereas in one draft didnt they get their two studs, ahem, one in the second round and then surrounded them with players and fast tracked up the ladder in three? seems they also didnt get all the chances we did because of it and didnt need it. they also have a smart enough gm that can pick em at 30 so they are buyers and not sellers and and traders of prime picks. seems they dont need all those old men to help on the edges rick boy talked about.
finally did anyone see the perkins pick on kobe? serious baby.
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:06 pm
LD is an assistant that should go back to doing just that..
There’s more to the head coach position than just x’s and o’s..
Greyhound leaves on the hour.
14-25= Pathetic!
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:07 pm
OKC is blowing the Lakers out of the Gym!
up 22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat them down!!
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:13 pm
26
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:14 pm
28
KevinM
May 14th, 2012
11:16 pm
cp, I think we know how this ownership group works…they really don’t take many risks. For us to get anything done, it will have to be someone already familiar with the roster, and IMO it would be an internal promotion (see money savings once again).
We then have LD back for 2 more years, and then start formulating a plan to build a roster.
I also want to bring in guys who will get more FTs per game than what we’re getting today. Josh ranked 29th this year in FTA and at 63%, that’s not very helpful.
I think Stuckey could be very useful in the backcourt for us if available. He’s in the top 15 in FTA and at 83%.
Grandad
May 14th, 2012
11:18 pm
cp
My opine -&- mine only; but for what it`s worth:
Pendergraph;
don`t know a mule`s ass from a jelly doughnut.
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:18 pm
30
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:19 pm
31, bench Kobe its ova….
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:19 pm
up 31 with 18 mins left in the game? WOW!!!!
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:20 pm
33
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:20 pm
can u say azz kicking coach?
doc
May 14th, 2012
11:21 pm
oh my, this is good, go thunder.
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:28 pm
Thunder shooting 80% in the 3rd! Whew!
Slimjr
May 14th, 2012
11:36 pm
35
brigadierjerry
May 14th, 2012
11:46 pm
Shamrock,
If the Celtics dont win another title with this group, I am sure you have to be disappointed they didnt win more.
Also, you never told me what part of Mass you are from but I see you are from Cambridge.
where is that christopher clown Celtics fan?Probably had to go to bed because he was in his parents basement and had to go to bed to go to elementary school tomorrow.
doc
May 15th, 2012
12:14 am
gdad, my worst nightmare i had at the thought of sund leaving? the basg want to go with who they know and have worked with before, sooo they decide to hire the guy that was in the desk nest to sund. essentially, they promote within the guy you are referring to. now aint that one a kicker? wanna throw up?
heh heh
Grandad
May 15th, 2012
1:05 am
Pendercrap has had his hand in the draft for …………………..
at least as long as Sund has been here. Maybe longer ? ? ?
Pendercrap quote: [I still remember]
‘`we can get just as good a player in the D-League
as we can in the draft`’
Looking back that was probably a smokescreen for the ASG
whom he knew were gonna sell the 1st pick in the 2nd round.
-regardless-
That`s my sequitur.