Atlanta Hawks: Gearon: Garnett ‘dirtiest guy in the league,’ Hawks ‘don’t get any calls’
Hawks co-owner Michael Gearon Jr. was the featured speaker today at the Third Annual Art of It Luncheon at the Piedmont Park Conservancy. The event is sponsored by the W.E.B. Du Bois Society, an Atlanta-based nonprofit that is “focused on bridging the academic gap that exists between African-American students and their white and Asian peers.”
The AJC’s D. Orlando Ledbetter was at the event and reported the following Hawks-related highlights from Gearon’s speech.
On media coverage of Hawks’ playoff series against the Celtics
“Did you see what Al Horford did last night? The timeline for recovery for his injury is another three months. He’s not even supposed to be playing and Josh [Smith] should not be playing. Zaza [Pachulia] can’t stand up, but if we can get past this round there is a chance that we can get him back. So this is a team that is overcoming adversity. I wish . . . some of the national media or even some of the local media, more the paper than the TV guys, recognize how hard these guys are playing based on how injured they are.
“On top of all that, we don’t get any calls, which I know everybody always hears. But I’ll give you a stat. Last night, we are playing this old physical team. They are old. I know what happens when you play basketball, old guys foul. [Kevin] Garnett is the dirtiest guy in the league. We are playing Boston last night and they had two fouls the whole first half. We had five times that and we’re athletic.”
On the Hawks’ injuries
“Derrick Rose goes down and the No. 1 seed is playing the No. 8 seed and everybody is like, ‘Chicago is down 3-1, that’s what you should expect with Derrick Rose down.’ Well, we’ve been playing these playoffs without Zaza, without Al Horford and Josh Smith should not be playing. Our center is Erick Dampier, God bless his heart, but he looks like a granddad. (laughter) He’s a great guy. It’s difficult enough to win a playoff series, but when you lose your whole frontline and nobody ever says, ‘Gee, you are out playing with guys that are hurt.’”
On Josh Smith and his Atlanta roots
“We wouldn’t be where we are without him. The tough thing for our team, I’m a lifelong Atlantian. I was born here. I lived the first 25 years of my life within two miles of where I was born. Right there near Piedmont Hospital. I moved to Cobb County back in 1994 when my Dad convinced me to buy a little house . . . . But the thing about our team, and it’s tough in every city. . . but when you look at the Atlanta Hawks and you know it’s tough.”
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soullrenaissance
May 10th, 2012
3:03 am
Sell the team you loser – sounds like this twerp is setting us up for a loss with his poorly time comments. Its ‘tough’ knowing you just want an entertaining product on the court and are not in the business of winning a championship.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
4:53 am
Woodson for Hire!
Obie, thanks for taking the time to pull those quotes together, I didn’t know the guys said that on Woodson’s behalf. I’m glad he has gotten a second chance, this time with an established roster. I especially liked the dig Woodson, tossed in there re:
“Asked Tuesday if he believes he has done enough to earn a contract, Woodson said, “Hey, I went 53-29 in Atlanta and was out of a job. I don’t look at it that way..”
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Still waters, do run deep.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
5:07 am
Who said that?
“Our center is Erick Dampier, God bless his heart, but he looks like a granddad. (laughter) He’s a great guy.”
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Ouch! Gearon, Jr was wrong for saying this about his employee to the media. There has to be something more constructive that could have been put out there. First of all, Eric is not our center – Collins is. Secondly, my grandma told me to ask yourself three questions before you say something controversial:
Is it true?
Is it kind?
Is it necessary?
If the answer is not “yes” to all three questions, then, put your fist in your mouth! (don’t say it). HaHa, now I will be the first to admit, at times on this blog … I throw my Grandmamma of the train and come out “tongue swinging”. Sometimes, cussing people out lowers your blood pressure and, that can be quite healthy.
But Gearon, Jr. stepped over the line with that comment. If he don’t like the groceries … then stop bagging up stuff from the The Dollar’s Tree “bargain bin’s”. Stop humping the sides of the 4×4x4 cardboard boxes.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
5:31 am
^ The Dollar Tree …
vava74
May 10th, 2012
5:45 am
OB,
All that love for the “gunner” must be put to bed “pronto”.
Rod said that the Knicks would be very dangerous when they hired JR Smith and look at what he gave them…
Virtually nothing but bad shots. I grant that missing their PGs played a factor, but the fact is that all that “instant offense” was reduced to the numbers you posted.
Defense and rebounding wins championships, not guys who shoot the rock with 20 seconds still on the clock.
Rod,
Bringing those Jamal highlights of a REGULAR SEASON GAME – which you always dismiss as not being important in comparison with the playoffs – against a much weaker MIA team is a JOKE.
Jamal was very good last year against a decaying ORL team which we had already figured out and then had ONE good game against CHI.
Heck, we had already beat ORL in the regular season without Jamal last year and this year again we beat them without Jamal by simply implementing the most basic strategy: defend Howard one on one with a big body and close the 3 point line.
I am all for having players who can create their own shot, but if they are one dimensional, they must be used criteriously.
I even think that it would be good to have Jamal on this roster, BUT NOT WITH LD COACHING.
Jamal would have to be reigned in and used in three ways, exclusively:
- short spurts, as the focal point of the offense and quickly replaced if his shot was not going in (2 misses – OUT) with the possibility of being brought back again for a new test later in the game.
- during scoring droughts:
a) as the guy who would receive the rock with the expiring clock to try and make the off-balance, tricky dribble pull up shot (meaning, that he would not get to shoot unless the set offense had stalled and went nowhere).
b) with some ISO plays given to him.
This last double option would replace Josh as the guy to whom JJ usually dumps the rock when his ISO goes nowhere, which unfortunately against playoff teams is very frequent, or ISO JJ all together (being in this case JJ the guy to whom Jamal would dump the rock if his ISO was going nowhere.
Matt
May 10th, 2012
7:02 am
Dear Mr. Gearon and the rest of the ASG clowns…”Shut your festering gobs!!”
boston sports fan
May 10th, 2012
7:19 am
Celtics fan here- the hawks are about to get there buts kicked at the garden
Statick
May 10th, 2012
7:43 am
Hey, Gearon! STFU and sell the team to someone who knows what they’re doing, ya ASG poser!
mrfuz
May 10th, 2012
8:03 am
wow? were they serving alcohol at this luncheon? Sounds like a drunk rant.
MsDee
May 10th, 2012
8:09 am
Hey DrMaryB,
Good to know that u are getting tweets from Josh. Keep us posted on what he saids to ya. Not wanting to run him away, but if u feel comfortable asking him this, could u ask him why he finds it hard to throw the ball to Teague? Not only after he gets the rebound but once he gets over the half court. He will look for everyone and anybody else b4 he decides to throw to Teague..not sure why tho. Its not like Teague is a TO waiting to happen or a bad decision maker. I really would just like to know..thx in advance, girl!!
MsDee
May 10th, 2012
8:20 am
Also to MC,
I like your articles and your responds but lately, it seems like you have something against Joe Johnson and now the Hawks organization. I say this cause its obvious, Joe is NOT your favorite ball player but I find it hard to find anything good in an article that basically calls Joe out at the WRONG TIME. It had all of TNT and ESPN talking down to Joe about his comments’ about not getting enough touches. And im sure the players wasnt too happy about it also. And because of the pressure b4 that game, Joe looked rushed or scared to even go to the hole. Horford gave him a perfect pass toward the goal but decides to throw the ball BACK OUT to non other than Josh for another missed opportunity to score.
Now this latest article about a Hawks’ owner who by-the-way, is correct on what he is saying about the Hawks, but again, u posted an article like this at the WRONG TIME. What good it going to come out of an article like this heading INTO Boston, a place where KG can catch all kind of fire from Gearon’s comment, for the Hawks? Not sure what your motives are but could we have the old Micheal Cunningham back PLEASE, cause this new MC is starting to cause all kind of havoc. Thx!
PD
May 10th, 2012
8:33 am
Doesn’t he sign off on player transaction? Why is he talking bad about Dampier?
Big Al
May 10th, 2012
8:44 am
The time is now. Play with fire, Hawks. Go get it in game 6.
Sanjeev
May 10th, 2012
8:58 am
Did he seriously just compare Josh and Zaza to the reining MVP of the league? lol
Astro Joe
May 10th, 2012
9:00 am
Call him out MsDee!
Jeff Green, Chris Wilcox, Jermaine O'Neal
May 10th, 2012
9:13 am
Wow. The Hawks complain about having injured players that can still play. We lost two people to the same bizarre heart injury. Losing Jermaine O’Neal wasn’t necessarily a surprise but losing Wilcox and Green to the same season ending heart surgery hurt. I like how no one remembers that.
Rod from College Park
May 10th, 2012
9:16 am
“Virtually nothing but bad shots. I grant that missing their PGs played a factor, but the fact is that all that “instant offense” was reduced to the numbers you posted.”
That answers all your questions dummy. No point guard will more times than not equal bad shots.
“Defense and rebounding wins championships, not guys who shoot the rock with 20 seconds still on the clock.”
We are holdyng Boston under their season scoring average for the series, and I’m pretty sure we are outrebounding them for the series, so why are we down?
Rod from College Park
May 10th, 2012
9:18 am
MC,
Keep up the good work. LD or management never call Joe Johnson or Marvin Williams out, so continue your good work.
Trade Josh Smith
May 10th, 2012
9:25 am
Take bad with good
You are an idiot
Filmexec
May 10th, 2012
9:29 am
“dirtiest guy in the league”? When you look up the term in the Dictionary you see a picture of Zaza Pachulia! LOL! The guys a Thug in Shorts! Garnett is tough and every Head Coach in the League would LOVE to have him on their team!!! Gimmie a Break, the Hawks are just a team with a bunch of
selfish players that don’t play any defense. Remember our players were injured when this series started and currently Pierce, Steimsma, Bradley and Allen are hampered by nagging injuries as well.
I do appreciate Horford courage and grit but it’s “too little to l;ate”. This series is over! Stick a fork in the Hawks! Maybe next year after they blow-up this mismatched team they will improve to win a playoff series. Unfortunity they will be going on vacation after tonight!
Go C’s!!!
winingisforlosers
May 10th, 2012
9:30 am
wow, so much whining. its kinda embarrassing isnt it?
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Celticsin5
May 10th, 2012
9:35 am
LOL @ THE INJURIES
I’m sorry. I didn’t know Zaza and Al Horford were lost to heart surgeries. Like the Celts. Or their Center had to get season enter wrist surgery. Or their shooting guard had a dislocated elbow, along with the other one having bone spurs.
All I see is excuses for the loss ATL takes tonight.
Melvin
May 10th, 2012
9:36 am
Ms.Dee,
Are you saying Joe the Professional Basketball player can’t take criticism? He’s the Hawks captain, all-star player and highest paid player but he can’t be critique? I think you are really making excuses for him if you blame the media for his bad play in the playoffs. This is not the first playoffs where Joe hasn’t step up his game or play at his same regular season level. I think there was plenty of evidence of finger pointing from Joe in MC “Joe Johnson: A quote timeline” blog. The responsibility is on Joe to play better instead of pointing the finger at someone else. Those guys at TNT, ESPN and us Hawks fans want to see Joe lead this team instead of shirking in the spotlight.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
9:37 am
* throw Grandmamma OFF the train …
vava74
May 10th, 2012
9:41 am
Rod,
If we remove the game in which we did not play any D, we are 2-2 with the wins going to the team which rebounded better.
The Hawks did outrebound BOS on the game that we folded, but it does not take a rocket scientist to determine that:
- if don’t play D, your opponent will shoot a higher percentage, so there will be less defensive rebounds, so the team losing may end up with more rebounds, in particular since the winning team will not break their necks nor ankles to try and snatch rebounds in traffic when it is not necessary;
vava74
May 10th, 2012
9:49 am
Rod,
On the subject of JR Smith, are you saying that his bad shots are a result of not having quality PGs on the floor?
Isn’t JR supposed to be a gunner, a create-his-own-shot guy?
Now that he crashes and burns in the playoffs against good defense (like ALL one dimensional gunners do) he is supposed to be a catch and shoot guy, dependent of good PG play?
Wasn’t the gunner concept all around guys who could revive teams from the death imposed by strong D’s who break up normal half court plays and make the ISO-free-wheeling players essential??
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O'brien
May 10th, 2012
9:54 am
vava,
You do realize that if we go as Josh Smith goes, then we will always be up and down, because Josh is always up and down.
And with LD as our HC, we dont have steady leadership either. No wonder the Hawks look lost out there sometimes. LD was asked if the players communicate on the court. And his response was no.
When you watch good teams (Spurs, Celtics etc), the players are always communicating.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
9:54 am
Ms Dee
Will do! (smile)
Melvin
May 10th, 2012
10:02 am
Celticsin5,
You may want to find a new blog name. Game 6 is tonight…
KevinM
May 10th, 2012
10:05 am
Terrell
May 9th, 2012
6:14 pm
KevinM
You’re right, we won’t get foul calls if we don’t drive to basket but a lot of times the jump shots are taken because we aren’t getting the calls as we drive to the basket.”
Take the ball and shove it down KG’s throat until you get a call! Quit throwing up last second jumpers wasting possessions. Stop with the 5 guy quicksand offense…its awful basketball!
Just like Woody, LD will never fix that iso mode we go into……never!
We’re not going to get calls like Boston…why is this new? I saw a guy on the Bulls last night grab a ball, and slide across the floor….result? Traveling? NO! Pass out to Deng and hit a 3 pointer.
These refs are telling you to earn a play…we’re not bailing you out.
You can’t control the refs, you have to overcome the refs. This is nothing new. We’re going to Boston and we have to win.
NOTE to Gearon or the minion you have reading this blog….just stay quiet. When you and your GM talk, it just infuriates us Hawk fans. You aren’t helping the team with your antics.
Off or on the record, just don’t talk. Enjoy your speaker engagements and just write a book or something….don’t kill your team’s last chance in Boston!
And for the guy who said we’re all just glad to see Al back and everyone is happy? Well, aren’t you tired of seeing Jason Collins getting a starting nod when he doesn’t deserve it? Kinda like the trials of Marvin……he gives you nothing in 20 minutes and LD rewards him?
These are reasons why we don’t stand behind this coach/GM/ownership. Can you imagine what T-Mac is thinking? Ivan? Just get me the HAIL out of Atlanta if possible. Both deserve better than they’re getting.
The treatment Teague got when he rotted for 2 years? LD and his hunches….ugh.
MaxxHawk
May 10th, 2012
10:06 am
Man, Gearon needs to sell this team and shut his mouth! Listen to this clown, I mean what was he thinking here?
O'brien
May 10th, 2012
10:08 am
Rod,
A day we will never forget
On August 6, 2009. From ajc.com;
All speculation was removed earlier today as the Hawks announce the re-signing of the 23-year-old forward. The team didn’t release the terms of the new deal, but it is believed to be a five-year, $37.5 million contract that could increase to as much as $43 million with incentives..
Williams, selected by the Hawks with the second pick in the 2005 NBA draft, averaged 13.9 points and 6.3 rebounds last season, but he missed the last month-and-a-half of the regular season with a back injury before he returned for the playoffs.
“Marvin is an important part of our core, and we’re very pleased to keep him in a Hawks uniform,” Hawks executive vice president/general manager Rick Sund said in a statement. “A big priority this summer was to retain as many of our free agents as possible and keep our nucleus intact, so Marvin’s return is significant for us.”
Williams said he never could envision playing somewhere else, not with seven of the top eight players returning from a team that won 47 games, finished fourth in the Eastern Conference and advanced to the second round of the playoffs.
“We’ve all grown together,” Williams said. “The one thing you hardly ever see in professional sports is that loyalty and teams staying together. When you do see it, like in San Antonio or Detroit when they kept their core guys together, you see championships..
“I think that’s everybody’s goal here. We’ve all started off together young in this league, and if we get a chance to grow old together, I think we can do some pretty special things.” .
SMH
KevinM
May 10th, 2012
10:12 am
Knick management is so stupid. GM brings in Woody, good ole buddy Woody!
Haha, we see Bibby back in his familiar role….and yes, the iso offense.
That’s the best NY can do…..well, nothing to see here, another 4-1 playoff defeat.
How’s that media for your stupid 2nd place preseason predictions?
cpsman_altanta
May 10th, 2012
10:14 am
Go to hell, Gearon. You screwed up by selling the Thrashers, do us all a favor and have you and your boys sell the Hawks to someone who cares, because you definitely don’t.
terrell
May 10th, 2012
10:18 am
Gearon is just making up reasons to keep cheap azz LD.
terrell
May 10th, 2012
10:20 am
Incentives for Marvin? lol
PaulWinchester
May 10th, 2012
10:21 am
Rick James said about Josh Smith: The guy has a higher base salary than Lebron James which is insane.
THE REASON WHY JOSH SMITH HAS A HIGHER BASE SALARY THAN LEBRON JAMES IS FOR TWO REASONS. #1 JOSH SMITH HAS A BETTER AGENT THAN LABRON JAMES AND #2: JOSH SMITH HAS MORE NATURAL TALENT AND ABILITY THAN LABRON JAMES AND IS MORE OF A CLUTCH PLAYER THAN LABRON. LaBron had two Cleveland Caviler teams that won 61 and 66 games respectively and had the best records in the entire league–than LaBron CHOKED in the playoffs and couldnt hit the clutch shot when his teams needed him to. When LaBron lost to the Orlando Magic, Labron stormed off the court without shaking anyone’s hands from the Orlando organization and refused to do post-game interviews. LaBron is a spoiled brat and will NEVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. I would rather have Josh Smith on my team instead of LaBron because for all the bonehead plays that Josh makes, at least Josh is a winner and knows how to make clutch plays in the clutch, of course thats not counting the inbounds throw-away pass to Rajon Rondo.
Sautee
May 10th, 2012
10:24 am
“No point guard will more times than not equal bad shots.” – Rod from CP
Odd statement, since J.R. had the same point guard that JC1 had in his SMOY season.
KevinM
May 10th, 2012
10:24 am
OB, what possibly could the incentives be for Marvin to add $6M to that gawd awful date in Atlanta history? Voted more professional by his peers?
That tops the Koncak deal 10X over.
Let me refresh that memorable day:
” in 1989 the Hawks resigned him to a six-year contract worth $13 million. As soon as he signed the deal, he was officially making more than Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson. If that wasn’t enough, his large contract also prevented the Hawks from taking part in any other major free agent signings for several years. And you wonder why the Atlanta Hawks have never won an NBA Championship. The Koncak signing would be exhibit A.”
It is said that history does repeat itself…..courtesy of Rick Sund and the ASG. No flex salary space going forward.
And to top it off, Koncak had his SMU college jersey retired in ‘08.
Larry Brown taking on a rich tradition there.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
10:25 am
“LOL @ THE INJURIES
I’m sorry. I didn’t know Zaza and Al Horford were lost to heart surgeries. Like the Celts. Or their Center had to get season enter wrist surgery. Or their shooting guard had a dislocated elbow, along with the other one having bone spurs.
All I see is excuses for the loss ATL takes tonight.” -celctics troll-
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I see this guy has his excuses machine gassed up & ready to roll. Hawks in 7even.
Butch
May 10th, 2012
10:26 am
Please just go away Gearon. You’ve already ruined my hockey team. You are ruining the basketball team. Just go away. I can’t even go to Phillips arena right now because I won’t allow my money to go into the pockets of a sleazy criminal. Worst ownership group in sports.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
10:28 am
Hugh?
“Rick James said about Josh Smith: The guy has a higher base salary than Lebron James which is insane.” -PaulWinchester-
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Wasn’t this original comment referring to Joe Johnson? Josh’s base salary is less than LeBron’s.
ColeHammels
May 10th, 2012
10:31 am
I think if the Hawks get Zsa Zsa Pachulia back in the next round and if Drew gives Ivan Johnson and Tracy McGrady more playing time, then the Hawks will have a chance to face OKC Thunder in the Finals! Go Hawks! Win the title for Lenny and Dominique Wilkins!
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MsDee
May 10th, 2012
10:38 am
Melvin
May 10th, 2012
9:36 am
Ms.Dee,
Are you saying Joe the Professional Basketball player can’t take criticism? He’s the Hawks captain, all-star player and highest paid player but he can’t be critique? I think you are really making excuses for him if you blame the media for his bad play in the playoffs. This is not the first playoffs where Joe hasn’t step up his game or play at his same regular season level. I think there was plenty of evidence of finger pointing from Joe in MC “Joe Johnson: A quote timeline” blog. The responsibility is on Joe to play better instead of pointing the finger at someone else. Those guys at TNT, ESPN and us Hawks fans want to see Joe lead this team instead of shirking in the spotlight.
Your question: “Are you saying Joe the Professional Basketball player can’t take criticism? He’s the Hawks captain, all-star player and highest paid player but he can’t be critique?”
My answer: NO, that’s not what im saying but this is, “I find it hard to find anything good in an article that basically calls Joe out at the WRONG TIME”. Notice the CAPITAL LETTERS..WRONG TIME!
You said: “I think you are really making excuses for him if you blame the media for his bad play in the playoffs”.
I say: Again I say, NO, not making excuses for him either. Hay, at the end of the day, he is a human with human reactions to such negativity based on his salary and NOW based on comments IM sure he was feeling at the time that, in the future, need to be kelp to himself since he wont be able to trust writers who post things that should have been kelp between the walls of Phillips Arena locker room. It leaked out and now must face NBA personalities and the continued fan based who loves to eat up at him when they get the chance. You cant tell me, as a human, that crap wouldnt have bothered you too. I WANT TO WIN so why put salt on something that will not HELP but HURT our chances of doing just that, TO WIN! MC, should talk about Joe during the OFF season, NOT RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF ‘A WIN OR GO HOME’ SITUATION!
Ken Strickland
May 10th, 2012
10:38 am
Even though it took him awhile, LD finally did 3 of the things I said he had to do in order for us to have a chance of winning this series. First, he put his personal issues aside and benched an unproductive Hinrich and Twin.At this point, Hinrich is a role player, not a starter. Secondly, he accepted that Dampier is a better player than Twin and gave him the extended PT he deserves.
And thirdly, he moved JJ to SG, where Bradley nor any of their other guards were able to handle him in the post. LD needs to come up with a plan to get the ball out of PPierce’s hands. KG is a jumpshooter, and we should wear him down and force him beat us.
drmaryb.(*_*).
May 10th, 2012
10:41 am
News Flash!
Gearon, Jr., welcome to the real world of social media. Anything you say in public may be used against you in the court of public opinion. See what you did there? You may have awakened the refs and KG’s ire. That equals two more monsters for your team to deal with. Is that how you help your franchise in a must win game 6?
If you, Gearon, Jr want to emulate Mark Cuban? Do like him, sit behind the team’s bench home and away and, yell obscenities at the refs LIVE and in PERSON. Catch a fine and, maybe your team will take it inside, draw contact and, get some fouls called. Help your team that way.
Hopefully, the Hawks can overcome. Let’s Go Hawks!