Celtics at Atlanta Hawks Game 5: Game thread

  • Hawks starters: Jeff Teague, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith and Al Horford. Zaza Pachulia (foot) is out. All Celtics players are available.
  • Larry Drew on why he’s using this lineup: “One, just to give it a different look and see if it will kind of jump start us a little bit. It gives us an opportunity to move Joe back to some two. It makes us bigger so we can do a few more things defensively in making some adjustments in Game 5. And I just think its’ time. After you play four games in the playoffs, obviously it’s a game of adjustment, and you try to do things to benefit your team. It’s time to give us a different look and see if it will jump start us with Al back in the starting lineup, Marvin in the staring lineup, bringing Kirk [Hinrich] off the bench.”
  • Drew on Horford’s condition: “Physically he feels fine. I wouldn’t say he’s in tip-top shape but he’s in playing shape. He didn’t experience any discomfort with the pec the other day [Game 4]. There was a play early he went for the ball and it was pulled back. I thought that would be kind of the test with him. He said after the play he was fine and he wasn’t sore after that. That was kind of the test. I know coming back he was waiting for that moment to see if he could withstand a collision or pull-back with the injury.”
  • Drew on how he’ll use Horford: “He’ll only play a certain amount of minutes. I could have brought him off the bench but instead of letting his shoulder and chest stiffen up while he’s on the bench elected to throw him out there while he’s warm. We want to get off to a fast start and he certainly brings an energy.”
  • Drew on the benefits of the lineup for Joe: “He’s had to defend Paul [Pierce] all four games. I kind of want to give it a different look and see if that can generate more offense out of him. He’s been chasing Paul around for four games and that can put a little wear and tear on you. We’ve decided to give it a look.”
  • Drew on pushing the pace with this lineup: “When we are at our best is when [Al] and Josh rebound the ball and bring it out on the dribble. We’ve been missing that with him out of the lineup. It makes us a much better running team when we have all five guys involved in the break.”
  • Drew on switching defensively: “Whether we start the game with our switching remains to be seen but it does give us a flexibility. The sets we defend we are in more switchable situations. A lot of the things they do run we can play it a little differently now going a little bit bigger at the two spot.”
  • Drew on matchups: “They will have to make a decision who they match up with against Joe and Marvin. If they stay with Pierce on Joe, there’s a size advantage with Marvin on [Avery] Bradley.”
  • Drew said Josh (knee) won’t be on limited minutes: “This is a do-or-die situation. Al we will definitely keep an eye on, but those other guys probably will play extended minutes given the situation.”
  • Josh on his knee: “It’s pretty good. I’m in it to win it. I’m here to play so I can’t worry about my knee.”
  • Joe on if the new lineup will help: “I don’t know. Hopefully it works out for the best for us. At this point we really don’t know. I guess it’s just a gut feeling.”
  • Joe on if moving to shooting guard will result in more touches: “I don’t know. We’ll see.”
  • Josh on Boston’s D: “With the defense they play they tend to over-help at times and we haven’t made them pay yet. We’ve got to be able to take our time and knock down the open shot.”
  • Joe on Game 4: “We haven’t had a game like Game 4 in quite some time. It was mind-boggling, honestly. I couldn’t get why we came out and played so poorly after we were so close in Game 3. I’m still puzzled from that. Hopefully Game 5 will be different.”
  • Joe on if he thinks Game 5 will be different: “Honestly I’m not sure. I just have to wait until we get between the lines. It’s easy to talk it but it’s different when you get on the court. Hopefully we will take a sense of pride and a sense of desperation and try to make it back to Boston.”
  • Josh on Game 4: “To me, to be honest, we played pretty good defense. We was with them on every shot, every catch, and they shot the ball extremely well, especially Paul Pierce in that third quarter when we were trying to make a push. We have got to to try to meet them right before they past halfcourt i guess to give ourselves a chance.”
  • Drew on Game 4: “When you lose a game like that, it’s deflating. But like I told our players I think we’ve had a great season in spite of that one game. That game is no reflection on the rest of our season. It happened. We’ve watched film, we’ve learned form it and now it’s time to move on. Yesterday I was still sensing guys were a little down. After our meeting we had yesterday it seemed to kind of rejuvenate them again. And then coming into shootaround today they were back to themselves.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:28 pm

Biased Celtics fans would probably like to take this opportunity to say that all Celtics players are not in fact available, since Jeff Green has been out since last offseason, Chris Wilcox and Jermaine O’Neal are out for the season, Walter McCarty retired, Len Bias died, etc.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:29 pm

“If they stay with Pierce on Joe, there’s a size advantage with Marvin on [Avery] Bradley”

I’m sure Marvin will be able to exploit that, since he always does so well against smaller players in the post.

THE GRIM REAPER

May 8th, 2012
7:30 pm

I’ve come for you, Atlanta Hawks.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:31 pm

“Josh on Game 4: “To me, to be honest, we played pretty good defense.”

LOL

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 8th, 2012
7:35 pm

Advantage?

“If they stay with Pierce on Joe, there’s a size advantage with Marvin on [Avery] Bradley” -Drew-
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Oh really? Does Drew think Marvin on anyone is an advantage? What is he smoking today, it has to be illegal?

kevkat

May 8th, 2012
7:36 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:29 pm
“If they stay with Pierce on Joe, there’s a size advantage with Marvin on [Avery] Bradley”

I’m sure Marvin will be able to exploit that, since he always does so well against smaller players in the post.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-MEN!!!!!

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 8th, 2012
7:38 pm

Put Away Games!

One thing we all know, It is extremely difficult to put a team away in a series. (see Miami)
This bodes well for the Hawks chances of winning tonight.

I see some green jersey’s here, but not too many – yet.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
7:40 pm

Wow Joe what encouraging remarks

SMH

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
7:41 pm

ROFL @ Marvin vs Avery.

Dude won’t do nothing on that guy.

T-Mac on the other hand would murder him

LD is an idiot

CamiloAtlanta

May 8th, 2012
7:42 pm

Yay!! The last game of the year thread!! Go Hawks and take … Wait, leave the Braves & Falcons. Just Go Hawks!!

Rod from College Park

May 8th, 2012
7:42 pm

“Josh on Game 4: “To me, to be honest, we played pretty good defense.”

I actually agree with Josh. Boston just hit some tough shots, and everbody was hot.

Luke Cage

May 8th, 2012
7:44 pm

OK HAWKS, Time 4 Sum Aksion

hawksfancents95

May 8th, 2012
7:44 pm

felt like posting cuz this will prob be our last game/gamethread. first im glad al is starting, i thought subbing him off the bench 1st last game was our downfall. kirk needs to sub in for teague and ivan for al/josh. i think damp should get a few mins as well. i dont think pargo/willie g should play much. tmac needs serious mins to take pressure off of joe.
quick tidbit, has anyone else noticed when pargo is in and larry is about to put teague in and pargo sees teague comin in that pargo will always shoot the 3? if jannero makes it he stays in for five more mins and teague rots on the bench. with willie g he is a good mid-range shooter but he doesnt help us really at all and he takes most mins away from tmac.

wow the offseason may be upon us all tonight and we will finally get to talk about our fantasy transactions/free agent signings. as well as our spots in the draft. i still hope we win and i do think we get a 25% chance to win this series.

KevinM

May 8th, 2012
7:46 pm

“And I just think its’ time”

LD on changing the starting lineup….this coming from a guy making $1M to be a head coach.

Insightful.

I am so ready for the LD regime to be finished…this reminds me of the Bob Weiss regime…you knew the ax was coming….it was just how long it took management to admit it.

Yesterday’s Ken Norman = Today’s Marvin Williams.

High-sider

May 8th, 2012
7:47 pm

“That’s ok Highsider just keep telling yourself how great JC1 was during the regular season and against the non-existent perimeter defense of Orlando and ignore the fact that he got shut down in the playoffs against the defense the Hawks are facing right now.” – Buddy Grizzard

That’s ok, Buddy Grizzard, just keep telling yourself that Hinrich has been playing great defense against Rondo this postseason. Just ignore the fact that Rondo in three postseason games vs. the Hawks this year is averaging 19.0ppg, 7.0rpg and 13.0apg. Let’s just call Hinrich the [new] “Rondo stopper.” Let’s just focus on Hinrich’s +/- stats. Nevermind, the fact that Hinrich is averaging 5.5ppg, 2.5rpg and 1.3apg. Kirk [Hinrich] is really ballin’ [sarcasm].

justin

May 8th, 2012
7:48 pm

Joe should be a motivational speaker when he retires. His words evoke such passion and inspiration.

OldTimer

May 8th, 2012
7:49 pm

Joe Johnson is going to throw up more bricks tonight than John Wieland ever did.

Lacsho

May 8th, 2012
7:49 pm

Wow LD, I guess Boston will really be scared of that Marvin match-up. Hell Marvin might go for 40 rriiigghhttt.

Hmmmm, I would start TMac!!!

Rod my man the Hawks defense was horrible. Kenny Smith really broke their defense down last night on TNT.

Ride or Die time.

pointguardslim

May 8th, 2012
7:50 pm

Choice A:

“If they stay with Pierce on Joe, there’s a size advantage with Marvin on [Avery] Bradley”

Choice B:

“If they stay with Pierce on Joe, there’s a size advantage with Josh on [Avery] Bradley”

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
7:51 pm

Joe is a loser.
He said I don’t know twice and not sure.

Josh is in to win it.

Joe just retire and give us our money back

bigdave

May 8th, 2012
7:52 pm

no lazy contest or close outs… hands out on d… effort! effort! effort! Hawks act like they were sleepy or on 1 defensively. They gotta play with a lil huger man. Hands out, slide.. I don’t care I u gotta take it back to prep days. While in ur man face defensively mf’er mf’er mf’er! Til he pass.. get after it man. Sick of y’all suckas reppin the city half a.sed!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
7:52 pm

START TMAC. HE WILL DESTROY BRADLEY

WHY IS MARVIN STARTING?????????????

WHOCARES

May 8th, 2012
7:53 pm

GO CELTICS! No one gives a rats ass about these Hawks!

Slimjr

May 8th, 2012
7:53 pm

Head Coach vs Assistant..Advantage Head Coach!

Its a wrap…

Slimjr

May 8th, 2012
7:54 pm

If All Whatever scores 10 or more points the Celts win by double digits…

justin

May 8th, 2012
7:55 pm

I think if Al had been healthy two weeks ago and this lineup had some time to coalesce, this lineup would win the series in 5 games. Fortunately we have some prior history to draw upon with it, so maybe the chemistry will be there.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:55 pm

John Hollinger ‏ @johnhollinger
Pre-game discussion: It would be the most Hawks thing ever if they won Games 5 and 6, and then lost Game 7 by 20.
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Realistically I think they win tonight and lose Game 6 at Boston.

smh

May 8th, 2012
7:55 pm

hope we dont go fishing today but you prbably will

Slimjr

May 8th, 2012
7:56 pm

All’s objective is to score points not defend..He told us that a couple of weeks ago..Remember?

GAME,SET, and MATCH…

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:56 pm

Of course they hand out free towels today when I don’t go to the game, when they didn’t hand out sh-t in Games 1 and 2 when I was there.

If this goes to Game 7, I will be there and they better be handing out free T-shirts to everyone.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
7:57 pm

The Stinger Mike Glenn wants the Hawks to play “aggressitively”.

Slimjr

May 8th, 2012
7:58 pm

Its too the Celts advantage to close it out tonight and rest up for the next series with Philly…

Rusty

May 8th, 2012
7:58 pm

I’m glad that KH is on the bench,not happy to see MW starting should be TMac. Only thing I’m worried about is that dumbo will take JT out & put KH in at the point, ball movement will come to a stop as KH dribbles around without doing anything productive.

justin

May 8th, 2012
7:58 pm

Jeje, Marvin is starting to put some resistance on Pierce on D. TMac had a great half in Boston, but he’s not going to slow down Pierce on D and I don’t think he’s got a lot of quality offensive production left in him for this series. He’s not done much since he turned the ankle, IMO.

smh

May 8th, 2012
8:00 pm

maybe duck booty should try playing d with his booty instead of his hands it always seems to get in the way

justin

May 8th, 2012
8:00 pm

LOL @ Hollinger. It’s sad, but true.

bigdave

May 8th, 2012
8:01 pm

So who keeping track of everytime Joe touch the ball…

smh

May 8th, 2012
8:01 pm

aww man were doomed joe johnson say we live an die on his shoulders smh see yall next season

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
8:01 pm

Joe: I don’t know. I don’t know. We’ll see. Not sure. I don’t know”

Josh: I don’t care about my knee. It’s do or die. I’m in to win it

Section 303

May 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

At my seats in Philips…..not feeling it at all. We’re going to get killed.

Boy, if Joe’s quotes don’t fire you up, you don’t have a pulse. Are you guys going to play better? “I don’t know…” What a f’ing joke.

And, is LD hinting that they’re going through Marvin tonight? God, help us all!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

Hawks are not losing tonight

Luke Cage

May 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

TNT guys always go for the cheap jokes

Luke Cage

May 8th, 2012
8:05 pm

Why does Marv get big minutes??

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
8:05 pm

“He’s not giving them anything right now” -Shaq on Marvin

pointguardslim

May 8th, 2012
8:05 pm

It should be Ivan Johnson. Josh Smith would collapse the defense.

McGrady is only destroying himself. No elevation on his shot attempts and you want to run offense through him?

But LD chose Marvin so meh… I woulda went

jeff.Joe.Josh.Ivan.Horford

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
8:05 pm

“We’ve seen this for five years in a row. The movie ends the same. They all drown.” -Chuck, on the Hawks

pointguardslim

May 8th, 2012
8:06 pm

Najeh Davenpoop any more notes for us who missed it?

steven a smith

May 8th, 2012
8:06 pm

smh

May 8th, 2012
8:07 pm

asg says we have one of th ehighest payrolls in the league lol so does the redskins and they still stink

steven a smith

May 8th, 2012
8:07 pm

First time i have ever agreed with this guy..

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
7:41 pm

ROFL @ Marvin vs Avery.

Dude won’t do nothing on that guy.

T-Mac on the other hand would murder him

LD is an idiot