Atlanta Hawks: Joe Johnson: A quote timeline

JUNE 11, 2010

MC

The Hawks also want to move away from an isolation-heavy offensive approach that was influenced by guard Joe Johnson’s playing style. Johnson is eligible to become a free agent next month, and the Hawks still want to re-sign him.

A person with knowledge of Johnson’s plans said he’s still open to returning. But the person said the new coach would have to sell Johnson on relying more on his teammates in the offense and ensure him that locker-room chemistry would improve.

JUNE 16, 2010

Larry Drew

Q. Have you talked to Joe about your philosophy on getting the ball out of his hands and moving it around and, if so, what was his reaction?

A. I did not. It was too early in the process. I was mainly just trying to get my foot in the door, to be a candidate. I expressed to him I was going to push forward and try to get this position, which he said: ‘You should. You are ready for it.’

Q. Do you think he will OK with the idea of not having the ball as much?

A. I think he will. I do know Joe has played against some of this offense before, and he’s not crazy about playing against it. It’s constant movement. It forces you to defend multiple offensive situations within a possession. And now he is going to be on the other end of that, where people have to defend him now. I think he is going to be excited about that.

July 8, 2010

Rick Sund

“We’ve come so far in the last couple years. The last two seasons, we had the fourth- and third-best record in the Eastern Conference with one of the youngest teams. We got to the final eight teams two years in a row. We are knocking at the door, and it was a lot of fun. I think the fans and the players and the organization had a lot of fun in these last two years. We want to continue to go forward, and Joe is the foundation. . . . He’s one of the top four or five [shooting] guards in the league. We are lucky to have him.”

JULY 8, 2010

Joe Johnson

Q. What did it mean to you for them to offer you the maximum deal?

A. “It meant a lot to know they have got the confidence in me to try to lead this team in the right direction and over the hump. I think we can definitely get over the hump. Knowing they have my back like that makes me want to work even harder. I’m sure I won’t let them down.”

Q. You know how it goes when guys get maximum deals. There’s going to be even more scrutiny of your performance. Are you prepared for that?

A. “I know it’s going to come. I can’t really worry about that. I have to control the things I can control and go and compete night-in and night-out and have fun with it. At the same time, this is definitely my job. I am up for the challenge.” . . .

Q. L.D. has talked about making changes in the offense to get the ball moving more. He says that will help take pressure off of you. Are you cool with not having the ball in your hands so much?

A. “It definitely takes a lot of pressure off of me. Me and Drew talked about it. He wants me doing a lot more catching and shooting. Not creating so much until late in the game so I am not so worn down. I respect his opinion on anything. He is our head coach now. He is definitely going to make the right decisions.” . . .

Q. There has been lots of criticism from media and fans around the league about your contract. Have you seen or heard it?

A. “Naw. Uh-uh.”

Q. There are lots of people saying it’s a bad deal for the Hawks. Does that bother you?

A. “There is nothing I can do. You have got to deal with it. You deal with the bad. It doesn’t bother me at all. I am going to still come out and do my job and be effective and do whatever it takes to win. You can’t worry about what people say about you. You have got to move on.”

Q. Do you feel added pressure to live up to the contract?

A. “Not at all. I don’t feel no pressure at all. All I have got to do is keep playing my game.”

APRIL 14, 2011

JOE JOHNSON

J.J. is the Hawks’ lead dog, and lead dogs in the NBA usually are judged by how far they take their squads. But J.J. said he doesn’t feel that burden.

“Not at all,” J.J. said. “In this case, it is not like that. We’ve got equal opportunity around here. We ain’t just depending on one guy. We’ve got two All-Stars. It’s not just going to be all on me. I don’t get all of the glory when we win so I don’t get to take all the [blame] when we lose.”

MAY 27, 2011

Rick Sund

Q. You said after last year you are of the mind that you don’t need an MVP candidate to be a championship contender but when you look at it historically, almost every single champion has had that first team All-NBA guy so how . . .

A. It is going to be very hard for us to get that MVP candidate unless you pick one or two [in the draft]. And we are not picking one or two. Or unless you happen to have–a few years back when they had free-agent money, to get one in free agency. It’s going to be tough, so we are going to have to do it the hard way. We are going to have to do it similar to what Detroit did in their day, when they had the Eastern Conference finals five straight times, went to Finals and one won, where it is a collective effort. Unless we get an MVP or unless someone emerges as that kind of guy.

Q. Do you have that kind of guy?

A.I don’t think we have an MVP candidate.

Q. What I mean is, do you have that guy on your team who can emerge into that kind of player?

A. Time will tell on that. It depends on what happens in the next year or any kind of player transaction or in the future. But basically we have pretty much built it around get as much talent as we possibly can, blend it around and have a team effort. Now we’ve got two players on this roster who have made All-Pro, we have got two players made All-Star and another one knocking on the door. We’ve got a player in Hinrich who has been kind of that gritty, tough complimentary player and has made All-Defense. So it is going to have to be a collective effort. . . .

Q. Joe got the contract and he had his worst year since he’s been here. He’s getting older, he had the injury, so are you concerned . . .

A. Well, I don’t worry about the old. When I am seeing Jason Kidd and Nowitzki and the Wades and all these people in their 30s, that doesn’t bother me. Joe has got a durable, strong . . . and he did have a lot of injuries and he had an elbow situation and pre- and post-surgery he is such a tough guy he played with that. Not really [concerned]. I was really happy with Joe’s playoffs. I thought he played really well, particularly the games that we won, he stepped up big time, particularly in the fourth quarter. I think that’s part of the experience, being into it and the pressure. There are only three teams that have made it to the conference semifinals three consecutive years: L.A., Boston and us. Two of those teams have won the championship. Another thing with Joe, if it is correct I didn’t verify it, Joe has been to the second round a number of times and three with the Hawks. Carmelo Anthony, who was probably one of the most sought after players during the trade deal, he’s only made it to the second round once. [Note: That's correct.] Chris Paul has only made it to the second round once. Deron Williams has only made it to the second round once. All the years Kevin Garnett was with [Minnesota], he only made it once. Joe has made it three times. So he’s done a pretty good job of being the best player on your club in terms of getting there. Now his challenge and opportunity is getting to that next round. I think he gave a pretty good effort in the Chicago series.

Q. During the playoffs Joe expressed frustration with whether it was best he share the ball or for him to try to do more. It seems like he never really . . .

A. I don’t know. That’s between him and Larrry. But from my perspective I thought he did a pretty good job. When the game was on the line, those close games. . . . You take any team. Oklahoma City. Some games Durant was really good in the fourth quarter, some games it was Westbrook; other games [Durant] was terrible in the fourth quarter. Take Miami. There were people that were criticizing Bosh in the first round. Somebody has got to do it. Most of the time, a lot of the time, it’s your best player. Other times it’s not. When Boozer did it for Chicago they were really good in those games. I try not to get too high on the highs or too low on the lows. The playoffs can really cause that. The highs and the lows of the playoffs are unbelievable from a fan and media perspective. Miami loses to Chicago in a fashion where Chicago pretty much dominated and dictated that game, and everyone wrote Miami off and said that’s it. There is no way that Miami is good enough, blah, blah, blah, blah. Dallas wins the first game, loses the second game, and [they said] ‘There is no way Dallas is going to be able to go into Oklahoma City as loud as that is and the enthusiasm.’ You don’t get too high on it. It’s a progress or it’s a leapfrog. Chicago leapfrogged. Ours is more of a progression and I think Joe did a pretty good job.

DEC. 16, 2011

Michael Gearon Jr.

Joe had what he admits was his worst season after getting that contract. Does he have to play better to justify that contract?

A. I think what justifies that contract is the success of the team. We had the best playoff success we’ve had in our tenure as owners last year. So I don’t judge Joe Johnson on the regular season. We took away the home-court advantage from the team with the best record during the regular season. I think the way we beat them up caused them to lose to Miami. I really do. For us as an organization we are going to judge our success by how we do in the playoffs. Are we going to be competitive and show up? Fortunately we’ve got all of our core players, and you’ve written some of this, they’ve come in to camp in shape. And I appreciate, as a fan and as an owner, the piece you did on Teague. That was a great piece. It’s right on that if we are going to play well this year, it’s going to be more up-tempo offensively and more lock-down defensively and we are going to look different. And I think that for fans it is going to be more exciting because it’s not going to be pounding the ball.

DEC. 26, 2011

Joe Johnson

“I know it’s the worst season I’ve had since I got here. Even though we went further, I thought the playoffs was just decent. Still not where I should have been. I am going to do whatever I can to change that. . . . It’s easy to be good, but it’s hard to be great. I want to be great. In order for me to do that, I am going to have to keep working, keep practicing to get better.”

MAY 7, 2012

Joe Johnson

“I don’t think they are doing anything different defensively on me. I think it’s just, basically, getting an opportunity to touch the ball. That’s it.”

Larry Drew

“We run a lot of things through him. He’s got to be more aggressive in working to get his shots and we have to be mindful when he hasn’t had a shot in one or two trips down the floor we’ve got to get him the ball. All the things that we do run, and we do run a lot of things where we do go through him, I give Boston a lot of credit on how they have defended him. Collectively, while they are out there they have to get him the ball more. Just watching the film in flying back last night there were a number of situations where we could have just made one extra pass and the extra pass would have been to him. We’ve just got to be a little bit more mindful to make sure he is getting touches.”

Jeff Teague

“We’ve got him the ball in Game 3. He got a lot of touches. Last night, they took us out of our stuff and made it difficult to get him the ball. We will try to make a conscious effort in Game 5 to get him the ball and make sure he makes plays for us. He is our go-to player. Eight shots is not enough, especially in a playoff game for a guy who can play like him. We’ve got to make sure we get him the ball.”

Al Horford

“Joe is our main guy. We go to him. We has to get us going offensively so he needs to go out there and be an enforcer and make his presence felt. I don’t think my shots or Erick Dampier’s shots are affecting him. I think Joe needs to be aggressive. He needs to go out there and score the ball. That’s when we are at our best when he does that.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

92 comments Add your comment

AG

May 8th, 2012
3:59 pm

Team Full of Mr Softees

May 8th, 2012
4:00 pm

He does anything to deflect blame … and some of us have always know it. HELLO! (Herm Edwards voice)

PMC

May 8th, 2012
4:00 pm

So uh, when are these guys going to address the fact that they get blown out of the building in 25% of thier playoff games.

I notice Sund doesn’t mention that much.

Jamaaliver

May 8th, 2012
4:01 pm

It was incredibly foolish for ownership to give him such an unbelievable pay raise when it was their intention to de-emphasize his role in the offense.

And we are so hamstrung salary cap-wise, the only chance we have for future flexibilty is to let Josh walk (or trade him for a draft pick).

So here we are, stuck in mediocrity.

Hawks d

May 8th, 2012
4:01 pm

First!!! From germany

Rod from College Park

May 8th, 2012
4:01 pm

From last blog:

Buddy Grizzard,

“IGNORANT POST OF THE YEAR

High-sider
May 8th, 2012
9:16 am

“Another part of me feels [that] the decision to keep Hinrich [white] over Crawford [black] was a bit racial…”

You keep going on and on about Jamal’s great performance in the first round last year as if a series against Orlando’s defense compares to a series against the best defense in basketball. If you recall, Jamal Crawford played a playoff series last year against a Tom Thibodeau defense and was a non-factor. The Celtics still employ the defensive principles of Thibs, the lead assistant during their championship run. To say that JC1 would have had the kind of series he had against Orlando in this series is a bit of a stretch. More likely, he would have performed as he performed against CHI.”

“JC1 was not retained because while his offense is streaky, he’s consistent on defense. Consistent as in he never plays it.”

When you make a statement that someone’s opinion is the IGNORANT POST OF THE YEAR, you should at least make valid points that prove why it is the IGNORANT POST OF THE YEAR. The first round series of the playoffs last year can be compared to last years first round series because guess what, IT WAS A FIRST ROUND SERIES IN THE PLAYOFFS. Nobody will look back a couple of years from now and say the Hawks did not get out of the first round of the playoffs in 2012 because they played a good defensive team. They will say, The Hawks got beat in the first round of the playoffs in 2012. Actually Boston was not the best Defensive team in the league this year, Chicago was.

Jamal Crawford during his time with the Hawks averaged 15ppg on 45%FG, and 37.5% 3pt against the Celtics in his last year here. The first year here, he averaged 20.2 ppg against that great Tom Thibodeau defense you speak about. So why assume what he would do against them, when the numbers are there to prove what he would or could do. Is anybody on our team putting up those kinds of numbers off the bench?

I would be more than willing to bet you any amount of money that JC1, was not retained because of money issues as opposed to your belief that he was not retained because of his defensive shortcomings. Especially being that he was traded to the Hawks to help us offensively, and not defensively. Funny how we are the second lowest scoring team in the playoffs only in front of the Knicks this year. I wonder why?

The racial component, I will stay out of, simply because I don’t think it applies to the reason he is not here.

Rod from College Park

May 8th, 2012
4:03 pm

doc,

“see y’all down there tonight. dont know what i will do about sunday’s ticket as i will be flying back to atlanta. anybody think i should worry about not using it?”

Teat it like a unicorn, and know that you will never see it. LOL

AG

May 8th, 2012
4:03 pm

It will be my first game at the Highlight factory this year. As far as Joe, think that was not a very good quote about his 8 shots. I never hear Kobe, LeBron, Durant, etc complain about not taking enough shots. At the end of the day, JJ is truly a really good Robin. He makes a lot of mistakes when he forces shots (especially dumb turnovers).

I do like the team concept. I think KH MIA over the last two games really hurt us. If he is going to score 2 points in two games, we could have kept Marvin in the starting lineup.

PMC

May 8th, 2012
4:03 pm

When they picked in the top 5 of the draft 3 times in around 5 years they botched every single pick.

It’s almost impossible to be that bad but Billy Knight proved it could be done.

Josh Childress bust

Shelden Williams – probably not worthy of a draft pick.

Marvin Williams – inexplicably resigned by this team.

Team Full of Mr Softees

May 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

“I am up for the challenge.”

HAHAHAHA…. Joke doing his Richard Pryor impressions again! LMAO!

Rod from College Park

May 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

I see what you are doing MC. Very good. LOL

Team Full of Mr Softees

May 8th, 2012
4:06 pm

“I think what justifies that contract is the success of the team.” – Gearon

Comment still as dumb as the first time he said it.

Joe J!

May 8th, 2012
4:06 pm

joe J’s been carrying this team all year and is tired of this disrespect! In the offseason, the hawks better jack up his salary and promise him a lot more shots next year or he’ll be looking to move!

Lacsho

May 8th, 2012
4:07 pm

Great Article, I think Shaq said it best last night about Joe. It’s seems like know one (LD,Sund, Ownership, nor Joe) wants to take responsibility for their actions. I blame all four.

Let’s Go Hawks!!!!

PMC

May 8th, 2012
4:07 pm

Joe Johnson would be AWESOME if he played for the Heat, or the Celtics or the Bulls or the Lakers… some team with a true #1 and a chance. He’s an unbelievably fantastic role player. A championship caliber B or C guy who can bring a lot to a team.

….but Steve Belkin was right.

doc

May 8th, 2012
4:10 pm

it was said tongue in cheek rod. ;-)

PMC

May 8th, 2012
4:10 pm

The question for the ownership types is WHAT SUCCESS are you speaking about Michael?

There’s a banner for Widespread Panic in the rafters. When has this Hawks club been to the Eastern Conference Finals????

Team Full of Mr Softees

May 8th, 2012
4:14 pm

I like how YOUNG Teague and YOUNG Horford basically smacked down his comments from the other day.

Listen ASG, THOSE TWO are your building blocks for the future … AL and JEFF. The rest of these dudes always have an excuse, including the coach. The people who take responsibilty are the ones you WANT to keep around — everyone else? GOTS TA GO.

Ray

May 8th, 2012
4:18 pm

@ PMC

Last time this club went to the ECF back in their St. Louis days oh yeah they also had a championship back in those days.

You know what people say that to get rid of Joe would be impossible or to trade him would also be impossible after the CP3 deal nothing is impossible (Even though Stern plucked it up) It’s just our collective group of nutcased owners don’t know how to get creative with trade ideas.

Right now Josh Smith could be sold off as that guy to lift New Orleans back up just give us Ariza and the #4 plus a few fillers.

Al Horford same way could be sold to San Antonio as the next Tim Duncan(that’s the way Horford plays).

Joe could be given to someone in a trade, but I don’t trust that Sund is even smarter then a fifth grader.

Rev in Tampa

May 8th, 2012
4:22 pm

JJ needs to get his shots for the Hawks to be successful, but he needs to get them within the rhythm of the offense. If he can catch and shoot or recieve a pass near the block where he can dribble less than two times and shoot the floater then I think he and the Hawks will thrive.

But if he thinks his pounding the ball for 3/4 of the shot clock is helpful then he is a selfish idiot.

The Hawks need to be in ATTACK mode all night on both offense and defense. They need to shoot early in the shot clock and crash the boards on offense. On defense Teague needs to play in Rondo’s FACE all night. If Rondo gets past Teague then he has to deal with Josh. But playing six feet away from Rondo to keep him on the perimeter helps nobody but Ray Allen and KG. Rondo must be prevented from having the court vision to dish out the dimes.

Buddy Grizzard

May 8th, 2012
4:23 pm

ESPN Stats and Information:
May 12, 2011:

JOE JOHNSON HAS THE 2ND WORST FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE IN WIN-OR-GO-HOME PLAYOFF GAMES AMONG ACTIVE PLAYERS.

In that night’s game 6, Joe shot 7-for-18 as the Bulls closed out the series. I don’t know if shooting 39% in that game moved Joe up or down on the above list.

Elf

May 8th, 2012
4:24 pm

TRADE JOSH FOR A TOP 5 PICK AND GET BRADLEY BEAL. THE BOY IS THE NEXT GREAT ONE. BOOK IT, WRITE IT DOWN, TAKE A PITCURE, I DON’T GIVE A FUUUUUUUUUUWHAT? LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
4:25 pm

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Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
4:26 pm

So it is elimination time, and the Hawks are going to start Marvin head to head against Paul Pierce.

The lack of a perimeter defender on the bench rears its ugly head again. Marvin has been pathetic on D when matched against Pierce this series.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
4:28 pm

FTPB

“Najeh . . some of those boos actually started in the 1st quarter. We were down 10, and they were booing. At no time did the crowd as a whole try to cheer to get the Hawks back in the game. I guess the crowd knew what was coming.”

Damn right we did.

For the record, I did not just boo that game. I also yelled “Fire Woodson” as loud as I could pretty much the entire game.

Jamaaliver

May 8th, 2012
4:31 pm

Josh for a lottery pick does make the most sense at this point. We get salary cap space, a young prospect to build around and the bad team gets a veteran who comes from a winning franchise and guide a young team.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
4:32 pm

Not that I am the biggest fan of Twin or anything, but he has been better than Marvin this series. Give me a choice between starting Marvin or Twin, and I’ll take Twin any day. Josh on Pierce is not an ideal matchup on D but it is better than Marvin on Pierce, at least based on what has happened so far this series.

Marvin better at least get double digit boards and knock down 4 or 5 open shots today, or else LD is going to look like an idiot.

Jamaaliver

May 8th, 2012
4:33 pm

@PMC – Josh Childress was the #6 pick in the 2004 draft.

We drafted Al Horford #3 overall and he’s been a rock. A two time NBA All Star.

Just sayin…

Kingd92

May 8th, 2012
4:34 pm

Larry Drew says #Hawks starters vs. #Celtics GM 5: Teague, J. Johnson, Williams, Smith, Horford

C’mon man. Nobody wants to see Marvin Williams in the starting lineup let alone in the game.Put in Tracy. I thought LD had this figured out after game 3.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
4:35 pm

Of course, Joe has been pretty pathetic against Pierce the last three games as well, so maybe Marvin isn’t any worse.

I would go with Teague-Joe-TMac-Josh-Al or Teague-Joe-Josh-Al-Twin for what it’s worth.

Elf

May 8th, 2012
4:35 pm

LET ME PUT ON MY ALL BLACK FOR TONIGHT’S FUNERAL AT PHILIPS ARENA.

ASHES TO ASHES, DRAFT BUST TO DRAFT BUST. AMEN. LOL

Dept. Of Unintended Irony

May 8th, 2012
4:35 pm

“Teat it like a unicorn, and know that you will never see it.”

Unicorns have teats? Who knew?

Elf

May 8th, 2012
4:38 pm

“…the bad team gets a veteran who comes from a winning franchise”

WOAH SLOW DOWN. THE HAWKS ARE A WINNING FRANCHISE? ‘CMON SON LOL

Dawg

May 8th, 2012
4:38 pm

Who is talking about touches during the playoffs? Why are Hawk fans having to discuss touches on the day of a potential elimination?

We aren’t not talking about lineups or people hurt, we are talking about touches.

Reminds me of “practice, we are talking about practice”. We are talking about touches.

Hey Joe, don’t hog the ball.

bigdave

May 8th, 2012
4:40 pm

“This has to be one of the easiest articles Sekou has written this year.
Al has more favor with voters than anyone, but realistically until it happens, I can’t see Sund doing anything.”

if that was a local or ajc poll, i think the results would be different..

Elf

May 8th, 2012
4:41 pm

NAJEH I AM A BIG FAN OF KENNETH FARIED ALSO. BUT LETS BE HONEST, EVEN IF THEY DRAFTED HIM, DREW WOULDN’T PLAY HIIM. AS WE SEE WITH IVAN, LD HATES ENERGY GUYS AND YOUNG PLAYERS. FARIED WOULD BE SERVING GATORADE BY NOW.

bigdave

May 8th, 2012
4:43 pm

best option for defending Paul is still Joe. nobody else. as a team play fast on offense and if i were Joe id shift my focus to being a shut down defender.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 8th, 2012
4:46 pm

I can’t remember the last time a team traded its best player and got better without getting rid of other key players first or signing big name free agents. Maybe I am forgetting some time when that happened but it seems to me like that is very rare.

Melvin

May 8th, 2012
4:48 pm

Astro,

Is it a conspiracy that MC pull out the timeline quotes on Joe…LOL

Buddy Grizzard

May 8th, 2012
4:50 pm

Rod from CP, you go out of your way to point out that IT WAS A FIRST ROUND SERIES IN THE PLAYOFFS, then you turn right around and compare JC1’s stats during THE REGULAR SEASON against Boston. Try to have some consistency.

Which defense do you think Boston’s compares most closely to, ORL’s 2011 playoff defense or CHI’s 2011 playoff defense?

W. R. Terrell

May 8th, 2012
4:50 pm

I’m not saying the HAWKS should not resign ISO Joe but not at 21 mill, maybe more in the line of 14 mill at the max and if he does not accept that then byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. The game tonight will feature Josh Smith playing point guard, shooting guard,power forward and at least 7 turnovers and the ALMIGHTY knows how many shots he will launch. We will be lucky if he hits em. Oh yea, he will slow the running game up by playing point and trying to look pretty bringing the ball up. Will Marvin produce? That’s a question for greater minds then me but if I was to guess then my guess would be that anything is possible. ISO Joe may do something but who knows, this whole scenario is a crapshoot but if the HAWKS lose then this slow death feeling will be gone and a look toward next year will begin.

Rod from College Park

May 8th, 2012
4:51 pm

Pierce’s eyes light up everytime Marvin guards him, yet our coach is the only person who can’t see it. Then you totally bail Pierce out on the defensive end because he does not have to guard Marvin, as Marvin is a self-check. Looks like my Celtics in 5 prediction will come true.

Elf

May 8th, 2012
4:52 pm

NONE OF THE HAWKS PLAYERS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE OTHERS THAT IT’S A SIGNIFICANT DROPOFF.

THE CELTICS GOT RID OF ANTOINE WALKER AND KEPT PAUL PIERCE. PAID OFF IN THE LONG RUN. DALLAS LET A HALL OF FAME PG NASH WALK. YOU STILL HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT SURROUNDING CASE AS WELL AS THE RIGHT COACH.

Elf

May 8th, 2012
4:54 pm

*CAST

DAMN IT LOL

Dawg

May 8th, 2012
4:55 pm

I especially look forward to the draft. Perhaps, we will trade our 1st round pick for cash considerations and then draft a player from France averaging 4 ppg (even if no one else would draft him in the second round.

Oh, draft time is so fun for Hawks fans.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
4:57 pm

Grandad,

KG and Pierce shot a combined 7 free throws in game 1. Yeah they sure got preferential treatment.

I have not seen one player on this team complain about refs, nor have I seen a coach mention it since this series began 9 days ago. I also have not seen any other person on this blog complain about it – that it has impacted the series -  even northcyde or Najeh who usually point out things like that.

SEVEN free throws in game 1 for the 2 guys you claim who got preferential treatment in games 1 and 2. We got murdered in game 4, so that leaves one game, game 2 (KG had 6 FTAs in game 2) to support your pathetic argument. Has it ever occurred to you NO ONE on our team is good at getting to the foul line and Pierce is bloody good at doing just that?

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 8th, 2012
4:58 pm

If LD uses 5 bench players tonite, he should be fired on the spot

Jamaaliver

May 8th, 2012
4:58 pm

Najeh-

Smoove may be our best player…but that’s not saying much.

This ain’t Melo to the Knicks or Shaq to Miami.

Josh Smith sucks, dude. In seven years, he’s never accomplished ANYTHING of significance.

KevinM

May 8th, 2012
5:03 pm

bigdave, I don’t think any local poll would make much difference. This town is basically divided about which guys should be pushed out the door.
Like Ray

May 8th, 2012
4:18 pm
and I said when he was drafted, Al Horford will need to play like our Tim Duncan. Has he done that? Well, he is an AS and All-Pro so he has impressed someone with his skills. But he should not be playing C because he doesn’t want to defend bigger guys every night.

Saying that, for some reason, I see Al as the last man standing of the 3 captains. Josh and Joe could be easily pushed out of the door.
I see Al as being untouchable by this organization and I also see this organization giving Marvin more chances to be successful since Bibby.
Neither have value but he we are forcing those 2 on our fan base.
Its truly sad that the fan base can see it, but management continues to botch any common sense. As an example, there is no way we go to another playoff team and see what we see going on with this roster. LD and Sund and the ASG are not competent to field a championship contending team. 5 years in the making and where are we?
We are in a worse position than we were when we took Boston to 7 in ‘08.
We have gained little if nothing in 5 years and we have very little in future growth with the exception of 3 or 4 players on this roster.
Ivan, Josh, Jeff and Zaza are really the only guys worth keeping on a roster that has become the oldest in the league. How is this possible Rick Sund?
Ineptness comes to mind quickly.

KevinM

May 8th, 2012
5:04 pm