Atlanta Hawks: Notes and quotes

  • Josh Smith was walking without a noticeable limp today. He plans to test his sprained left knee at shootaround tomorrow morning in Boston. “I haven’t done anything as far as running on it,” he said. “I will have to see how it feels tomorrow. At shootaround I will probably try to go a little bit harder than I normally do and see how it feels.”
  • Told that Larry Drew said the decision on whether to play is up to him, Josh said: “Oh, they are going to put the pressure on me like that? [He was smiling]. It’s OK. If it feels good, I’m going to go. I’m not one to harness injuries. I have a high threshold for pain. If I feel like I can go a little bit I’m going to step out on floor.”
  • Asked if he feels a sense of urgency to play in Game 3 because the Hawks are already thin with big men, Josh said: “I don’t want to put that much pressure on me. I understand how important this series is but it’s more than one game. I don’t want to go out there too early and risk getting injured more than I have.”
  • Dr. Alexis Colvin, an assistant professor of orthopaedic surgery at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, said patellar tendonitis develops through overuse. Colvin said that there can be risk of further injury because of weakness in the joint but that it’s possible for athletes to continue playing if they can tolerate the pain. “It is something you can potentially play with if the symptoms are not that bad,” she said.
  • Drew: “It’s strictly going to go on his call. I know Josh, he’s a warrior. If he feels like he can play, he wants to be out there. If he can’t go we don’t want him out there limping around and injuring the knee.”
  • During the portion of practice open to media, the starters were Jeff Teague, Kirk Hinrich, Joe Johnson, Tracy McGrady and Erick Dampier (who was felling in while Jason Collins rested his sore left Achilles).
  • My guess is if Josh can’t go, it would be Marvin Williams starting at power forward rather than McGrady, which I think could be a good idea (more on that later). Drew: “We go in looking at matchups. We will probably have to move Marvin to playing more four than normal. We will probably have to play T-Mac some there. We have to try to get as much production as we can knowing that guys are out of position.”
  • Zaza Pachulia offered the most detailed info yet on the left foot injury he suffered April 13. He said he suffered a bone chip in his left foot as well as a sprained left ankle and was told by a foot specialist that it would take 4-6 weeks of rehab. It will be three weeks tomorrow since the injury, so best-case scenario means a return for Game 6 Thursday if the series is extended.
  • Zaza said he’s tried to speed up the process but “you can’t outrun the timeline” for the injury: “It’s getting better. I haven’t tried to run or jump yet [because] the doctor hasn’t cleared me. When I walk it’s fine but as soon as I put pressure on it, it hurts.”
  • The Hawks have scored 90.5 points per 100 possessions in this series after posting a 92.2 mark in the three regular-season games against Boston. Consider that Charlotte had the least efficient offense during the regular season at 92.3 points per 100 possessions (a comparison that comes with a large vs. small sample size disclaimer). Clearly the Hawks have struggled to score all season against Boston but they were talking about defense a lot over the last couple days.
  • Drew: “We just had too many defensive breakdowns, which you just can’t have in the playoffs. The margin for error in the playoffs is just too slim and as the playoffs go on it becomes even slimmer. We had too many defensive breakdowns and it started with our transition defense. Boston is not a team not known to get out and run a lot but they ran us constantly. Gave up 11 fast-break points that first game and we counted 28, me and the staff, in [Game 2]. That’s way, way, way too many.”
  • According to Synergy Sports Technology, Boston used 10 transition possessions in Game 1 and scored 40 percent of the time for 0.9 points per possession. In Game 2, the Celtics used 18 transition possessions and scored 61 percent of the time for 1.22 points per possession.
  • That’s a big difference for two teams that played to a draw offensively during the regular season. It also hints that the Celtics decided they had to push the pace without Rajon Rondo. Drew: “Not taking anything way from them but they are just not known for being a running team. They must have saw something that fueled them to get out and run more. We have to combat that.”
  • Marvin: “They had a few fast-break points on us and that’s normally not like us to give up that many.” He’s right: The Hawks had the sixth-best defensive efficiency in transition during the regular season, allowing 1.12 points per possession.
  • How can the Hawks be better defending the break? “We have to do a better job with our defensive balance,” Marvin said. “A lot of times we would have two, three, four guys going to the offensive glass and just kind of hanging out in the paint area.”
  • Drew’s message for his players today focused on sharper execution during the the late third-, early-fourth periods. Boston has dialed up its defensive pressure in both games during that time. Drew told his players the Celtics especially pressured the wings and the elbow area, forcing catches farther away from the basket to disrupt the offense, and also said Boston loaded up when the Hawks kept the ball on one side of the floor.
  • Drew: “It was our inability to get into our sets. We allowed the pressure to take us out of what we wanted to do. You can’t allow that to happen, not in the playoffs. You’ve got to do things harder, do things with pace. We were too lethargic, too methodical.”
  • Collins: “We have to continue to get out on the break and get some easy baskets in transition and offensively we’ve got to continue to try to attack the basket and get to the free-throw line.”
  • Joe : “In the first two, three quarters we are probably at our best running and getting up down the floor. Then in that fourth, for whatever reason–fatigue maybe—we just get a little stagnant and our offense just doesn’t flow as much. That is something we will look at on tape and try to make adjustments, and I am sure we will do better.”
  • Yes, I know, blog people. Play faster, attack the basket, earn free-throws–you’ve heard all of this before.
  • Drew on whether he will stagger the rest periods for his starters to counter Doc Rivers riding Rondo, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett: “I want to make sure if I can get guys proper amount of rest. I do want to ride my starters but I don’t want to wear them out. It’s going to be a long series. I could probably stagger them a little bit more but I have to make sure I don’t wear guys down and run them in the ground. I have all the confidence in the world in my bench. They’ve been good for us all season and I’m not going to give up on them now.”
  • Marvin on the reserves: “It’s taken a couple of us a little while to get going. Sometimes we don’t really have a little while. We’ve got to make a conscious effort to get out there and get started a little sooner.”
  • Rondo says he will “try and not let my emotions get the best of me” in return from suspension.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

145 comments Add your comment

iVar

May 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm

iVar

May 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm

HAWKZ FOR DA WIN SONNY!!!!

doc

May 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm

good stuff mc.

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm

Can a player be waived during the playoffs? I nominate Zero as number 2 pick please.

terrell

May 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm

There’s that word “matchups” again. smmfgdh

terrell

May 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm

And starting Marvin is NEVER a good thing. Please!

Section 303

May 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm

Marvin should have also mentioned that things would be a lot better with him NOT on the floor.

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm

Zero is the worst player in NBA history!!

tom

May 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm

two chances two get a road win starting tomorrow. go hawks

terrell

May 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm

Why are you talking to Marvin? What in the heck does he know about execution? Poor excuse of a basketball player if I’ve ever seen one.

JJ

May 3rd, 2012
5:11 pm

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:12 pm

It sure is still crazy how the vibe of this blog has changed. I remember when I would have to argue guys down how sorry Zero was, now I can’t find anybody that likes him. LOL…

Westurd

May 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm

I seriously cannot read another word muttered by the Hawks and coach. I love these guys, they are my team, but seriously I feel like I am in an insane asylum when I hear the same thing over and over and over and over and over……Game 2 hurt bad then the worst break up I have ever been through. With a break up you only feel the heart ache once or twice………these Hawks have been breaking my heart year in and year out. I’m now even more annoyed haven’t spent another second of my time talking Hawks. I am now sick. Good Day.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm

Boston’s points per 100 in this series are 86 in Game 1 and 95 in Game 2. They are not scoring very efficiently either. The Hawks are defending fine, although I think they could rebound a little better. The problem is on offense, and LD is right about the problems getting into their sets. Hard to do that when the point guards (all of them) take too long to get rid of the ball and the Celtics defenders push Joe and Josh farther away from the hoop than they would like.

Rod from College Park

May 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm

Why are we hearing from Marvin? Can we hear from somebody who actually matters in the series?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm

Of course, “defending fine” is with Josh on the floor. Without him, the Hawks are screwed.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

We will probably HAVE to play TMac some more?

GTFOH
Fire LD

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Cosign Rod. Owned NC on last blog

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Also, I am sure Dept. of Unintended Irony appreciates the unintended irony in the slowest, most unathletic player on the team talking about wanting to get out on the break more.

Greg Carter

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Sorry guys, but this series is OVER. Every offense starts and ends with a true PG. Jeff Teague is an amazing talent and can certainly blossom into an elite PG next year, but as of right now he’s on the Ramon Sessions-Ricky Rubio-Russell Westbrook level. A PG that isn’t a floor general. We have the best all around PG in the game in Rajon Rondo who is just itching to get another shot at you guys. We have the best defense in the league and therefore we will limit you in scoring. Let’s not even mention the fact that you don’t have an answer defensively for Ray Allen. Avery Bradley and Rondo are the best back court in the NBA defensively and are explosive. Paul Pierce will have another chance at Tebowing at the end of the game. C’s in 5.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:25 pm

“as of right now he’s on the Ramon Sessions-Ricky Rubio-Russell Westbrook level.”

I can’t think of three point guards whose games are more different. It’s like saying “that red-green-blue color”.

Greg Carter

May 3rd, 2012
5:27 pm

“I can’t think of three point guards whose games are more different. It’s like saying “that red-green-blue color”.

Okay. Substitute Sessions and Rubio for Brandon Jennings and Derrick Rose. Either way you understand what I mean.

SteveW

May 3rd, 2012
5:41 pm

Larry said of our bench, “I have all the confidence in the world in my bench.” That’s what he kept saying about Teague last season, and then not playing him.

The kiss of death for our bench.

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:42 pm

You mean Teague is not a facilitator, he’s more of a scorer. Back to Zero, how many of you will actually now admit that you were standing up for Marvin at one point?

yoursporthousedotcom aka Sam from the Swats

May 3rd, 2012
5:43 pm

Waive Zero!!

SteveW

May 3rd, 2012
5:45 pm

If Jeff Teague is on a Rubio/Westbrook level, then a Jennings/DRose level – where, when? I want that guy.

Jeff Teague is good. Very good. But he’s not quite ready for prime time yet. But he’s getting there.

But no way is he on a Westbrook/Jennings/DRose or even Rubio level. He’ll be a fine player in this League. But he may never average the points or assists some of those guys do. Pts. with Westbrook, Rose and Jennings, and the assists of Rubio.

Nanny

May 3rd, 2012
5:46 pm

Yeah, Greg Carter, that was an absurd analogy. Rubio is the definition of floor general. Sessions is probably the closest thing to Teague. Westbrook is in a whole different category as a scoring pg with freakish athleticism.

I agree with all of those asking why Marvin is quoted so much. Did he have anything to say about his individually horrific play thus far? They better amnesty his ass.

Greg Carter

May 3rd, 2012
5:52 pm

At all those who dismissed my analogy: Is it absurd? At no point did I ever say that Teague scores as well or as efficiently as DRose or Westbrook or Jennings, but that’s the style of PG that he is. He’s not a facilitator, he does’nt make his teamates better. If Rondo played for the Hawks, you guys would have a dynasty on your hands. Like I said, I retract my Rubio and Sessions analogy. That wasn’t an accurate picture of my analogy, I agree. But Teague is good yes, just not enough for the Hawks to beat us.

High-sider

May 3rd, 2012
5:54 pm

Repost FTPB with minor changes

High-sider
May 3rd, 2012
3:28 pm

“Rod, it’s not about the total points, it’s WHEN you need to get stops.

If you’ve held a team to 60 points going into the 4th quarter, you have to maintain enough defensive intensity to NOT let them break 80. You just can’t all of a sudden give up 25 points in the 4th quarter. That’s when your defense needs to be at its toughest.

The guys that you covet like Nick Young and Jamal Crawford, are not added to great teams for a reason. They’re not added because their games are too one-dimensional. And they’re too streaky of shooters.

But that’s what YOU like. Those streaky shooters who if they’re shot is not on, can shoot you right out of the game . . and make things worse because they’re not stopping anybody.” – northcyde

This is coming from a guy [northcyde] that a few days/weeks ago gave Marvin Williams a rating/grade [of] 81/”B-” for his [Marvin Williams'] regular season performance. Are you [bloggers] truly going to continue to listen to him [northcyde] and ask for his “basketball” advice like he’s some sort of expert NBA analyst or basketball “guru”? I can see/read it now. Just like Mike Fratello is/was called the “czar of the telestrator,” you [bloggers] will be calling northcyde the “czar of the AJC Hawks Blog.” [smh]

northcyde does make some good points from time to time but he [northcyde] is to the “AJC Hawks Blog” what Skip Bayless is to “ESPN First Take” – pure sensationalism and shock value.

So, northcyde, I guess Mike Bibby is better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young since Mike Bibby was acquired and played for the Miami Heat last year; the Heat [team] was a title contender last postseason and is a title contender this postseason.

So, I guess Boris Diaw and Stephen Jackson are infinitely better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young since both Diaw and Jackson were acquired by the Spurs via midseason trade[s] during this past regular season. The Spurs [team] is a title contender this postseason.

So, I guess Derek Fisher, at this stage in his career, is infinitely better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young because Derek Fisher was acquired by the OKC Thunder during this past regular season. The OKC Thunder is a title contender this postseason.

So, I guess Ramon Sessions is infinitely better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young because Ramon Sessions was acquired by the LA Lakers during this past regular season. The LA Lakers [team is a title contender this postseason; let’s just forget about the fact that the LA Clippers [team] sees itself as a title contender this postseason [sarcasm].

So, I guess Gilbert Arenas, at this stage in his career, is infinitely better than Crawford and Young since Gilbert Arenas was acquired by the Memphis Grizzlies this regular season. The Memphis Grizzlies [team] is considered [by many NBA experts] a very dangerous playoff opponent and a “dark horse” to win the Western Conference crown. The Memphis Grizzlies [team] sees itself as a title contender this postseason.

So, finally, I guess Mike Bibby, Boris Diaw, Stephen Jackson, Derek Fisher, Ramon Sessions and Gilbert Arenas are all better than Monta Ellis because Monta Ellis has yet to be acquired by a title contender thus far in his [Monta Ellis'] career. Monta Ellis was traded to the Bucks this past regular season.

Midseason trades or trades, in general, are based/determined/executed on teams’ needs, players’ contract value[s], teams’ salary cap structure[s], players’ fit on [the] teams, players’ attitudes, timing, availability, injuries to key players, etc.

DREABABY

May 3rd, 2012
6:24 pm

Lol at Greg for saying the Hawks don’t have an answer for Ray Allen.He is a great shooter,that’s about it.They don’t have an answer for Rondo though.

doc

May 3rd, 2012
6:26 pm

good to hear josh is not be restricted in his movement. seems the diagnosis of a sprain was a bit over the top.

DREABABY

May 3rd, 2012
6:28 pm

@ Doc,Josh will play,he has heart,a knuckle head with a lot of heart.

prison mike

May 3rd, 2012
6:37 pm

Whoever thinks MW is a player in this league can’t admit mistakes and doesn’t look long enough at the mirror ie NC.

He’s such a waste of cap space, space in general. Sund totally dropped the ball on this signing but BK planted the seed with that fatal draft day.

High-sider

May 3rd, 2012
6:41 pm

“sautee, let me put it another way. i looked down at what ld had on the court vs what doc had placed out there and thought then politely said we aint got nothing in there. the response form eva, having seen fewer than 25 games of basketball in her life was, yes, we need 2 and 5 out there quick. we didnt say starters or finishers but said ld has left us crippled in essence. everyone saw it except the guy who counted, ld.” – doc, May 3rd, 2012, @ 2:48 pm

What we [Hawks' fans] need is 11 – Jamal Crawford!!!!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
6:51 pm

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm

Guess LD really does hate TMac. Talks about HAVING to play him more, whereas Marvin has done nothing in this series

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
7:01 pm

Marvin said Boston did what they had to do after game 2 and there is no reason to be upset.

Are u f’ing serious dude?????

Got people on here who want to tank game 3 LOL

And LD claims it will be a long series. ROFL not with the way u are coaching.

Lastly, he has cost us the last 3 game 2s. ORL CHI and now BOS

^^^Food 4 thought

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
7:02 pm

If Marvin was on a 12 player WNBA roster, he would be the 13th best on the team

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
7:07 pm

MsDee

May 3rd, 2012
7:54 pm

If yall watching the Heat/Knicks game right now, I like how they are attacking the lane and drawing fouls. This is how u beat a slow and aging team like Boston.

O'brien

May 3rd, 2012
8:06 pm

MC,

I am disappointed in you. No comments from T-Mac?

O'brien

May 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm

But yet plenty of comments from Marvin SMH.

Bob rathbun was on the radio yesterday (either 680 or 790). He said the guys we need to step up tomorrow are 1) JJ and 2) Marvin.

I have doubts about both

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:11 pm

draft Targets to replace Marvin…

Jeffrey Taylor, Moe Harkless, Terrence Ross, Quincy Miller.

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:17 pm

Larry Drew is not that bright. AS long as KG, Pierce and Rondo are on the court then Joe Johnson, TEague and Smith should be on the court.

That’s a no brainer. These guys are young they can play a whole game with TV timeouts and all that stuff.

Section 303

May 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm

yodaddybrother, I would add ‘bag of balls’ to your list.

DamnIt

May 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

I wish Al’s sorry ass would try and do something beside hump miss camel toe.

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:33 pm

Maybe the Hawks band together like the Celtics did and grind it out????

NAH…..same ol Hawks….double digit loss guaranteed

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:37 pm

Never feel bad for Al Horford….he has Amelia Vega Horford

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm

Yeah. Not one comment from TMac. WTH

Joe : “In the first two, three quarters we are probably at our best running and getting up down the floor. Then in that fourth, for whatever reason–fatigue maybe—we just get a little stagnant and our offense just doesn’t flow as much. That is something we will look at on tape and try to make adjustments, and I am sure we will do better.”

LOL

It is 80% Joe’s fault

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
8:43 pm

So Marvin said don’t get upset.. So I will not get upset…

Hey Marvin, thank you for being so level headed dude! You sound like you’ll make a fine HC like your buddy Larry! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

12-22

45

2058

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm

All NBA’s woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^

BIG DOG

May 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm

This why you never over play your starters, Melo is done and tired, if the LD play Joe like that Hawks lose by 20points.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Section 303

May 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm

So, the Celtics are probably going to get Ray Allen back tomorrow? Game 3 is going to get really, really ugly. Will be like the Orlando games of ‘10.

msc

May 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

play t-mac more its really simple. last game he had 3 points off of zero shots and you pull him out.
LD are you seriously that clueless? he will set up joe for easier shots as well so joe doesnt turn over the ball so damn much late in the game.

BIG DOG

May 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm

Section 303 – Don’t worry Hawks will survive and win game 3 , Teague has play aggressive and attack, Pierce and KG are beat so the Hawks must play good defense rebound and push the ball.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

BIG DOG

May 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm

msc – Your right if Tmac is out there no 1-1 basketball for Joe, Tmac would direct Joe AND Josh to get down low in the paint, but LD have no clue .

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

doc

May 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm

Slimy 45 what?

doc

May 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm

Slimy I posted that way back bro. You slow.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

Shoutouts to SlimJr, Rod from College Park, High-sider.

I have really enjoyed reading your posts this past week. Great stuff

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm

Kinda hope Ray returns and Joe steps up. Joe will murder that dude on offense if he steps it up

hawkfan

May 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

well after seeing the knicks game, i feel a little better knowing we won’t get swept in our series and not hold the nba’s record of losing 13 straight games in the playoffs, and i agree rest starters at key moments so injuries don’t become an issue and put your team in more of a desperate mode especially in this condensed season plus our starters played even in the last game against dallas, whereas most of the celtics starters rested a week before the season ended

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

C-mon doc..We’ve talked bout that number before? Many times…..

45years this team has failed to advance beyond the second rd..[This year has to be included]..

Thanks Larry..

Section 303

May 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm

Big Dog, I hope you’re right. But, I almost dread watching the game tomorrow night. I hate the Celtics. Hate their fans, too. Listening to them celebrate a complete rout of the Hawks is not high on the ‘Things I Want To Do’ list.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
10:56 pm

Thanks Grandmaster JeJe (GM), for the shout out!

And as always I enjoy your input to these blogs as well!

BTW, that Avengers movie looks real good….

O'brien

May 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

“In the first two, three quarters we are probably at our best running and getting up down the floor. Then in that fourth, for whatever reason–fatigue maybe—we just get a little stagnant and our offense just doesn’t flow as much..

Really JJ? Fatigue? We have been doing this ever since Woody was here. Call it what it is.

Speaking of Woody and stagnation; Mike Woodson: “Offensively, we just didn’t have it. We were so stagnant. I have to take the heat for that.”.

So much for Woody getting that HC job…(imo)

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

Feel bad for Woody..Losing Lin and Shumpert were a huge lose..Amare’ too…

I’ll be surprised if they hand Woody the job next season..But stranger things have happened..

Man Woody has lost a ton of playoff games? I’ll have to research that number..Its got to be brutal?

doc

May 3rd, 2012
11:03 pm

For acuracy I’ll stick to seasons not the silly notion of counting years. Looking to see 44. Like saying you went to college for five years if going straight through starting say fall of 78 and finishing spring of 82. Actually wouldn’t be a total of four counting years as 12 months.

doc

May 3rd, 2012
11:07 pm

O’b and I were talking about that number slimj especially the avg number of points in defeat. Number is huge. Najee put some numbers up there. Still think he has a chance to change status and get rid of the interim?

Found out auto correct doesn’t like slimj.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:10 pm

Okay doc….tomatoe or tomotoe? No matter how you slice it, its been a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog streak….

Hey doc, what say you about tomorrows game.. A nail biter or something else Sir?

doc

May 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

Not feeling it slimj unless josh sees a shamen.

You?

0-43!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:20 pm

doc,

Thanks for the feedback on the Roy bone-on-bone thing. Just the thought of having no cartilage in one’s knew sounds brutally painful. I believe Duncan is bone-on-bone, according to Shaq’s book. I hope the Spurs win the whole thing, because I haven’t met one person who dislikes that team, besides the fact they’re “boring.” The Spurs go for boring and fundamental. ASG wants to be entertaining. Look how both franchises have faired over the last decade.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

We need everyone to freaking step up tomorrow night. Just win 1 in Boston and I’ll be okay. Game 5 is scary because Boston KNOWS they can win in Atlanta and is unfazed.

MARVIN, T-MAC, WILLIE, PARGO, IVAN: WE NEED YOU GUYS TO STEP UP DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yesterday morning felt like my girlfriend broke up with me. I have never been so depressed about being tied 1-1. The difference between being up 2-0 and tied 1-1 is freaking enormous

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:24 pm

Hahahahahha! doc got jokes!!!!

Agreed, not feeling good about it either.. Rondo is going to be on a mission to bury the Hawks.. Their fans will be insane!

Betcha Marvin starts…

Free T-Mac, 5 minutes playing time for the Mac was nuts!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:29 pm

How does this guy say he might “HAVE” to play T-Mac more?

Terrible coach

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:30 pm

Dating 101. Unless she’s the [ONE], have 5 girlfriends and rotate em.. And if one dumps you, so what there’s 4 backups ready to step up and put a smile on your face and elsewhere! LOL!

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:34 pm

Westbrook is heating up..OKC starting to pull away.. Get out the brooms soon?

ntrigue

May 3rd, 2012
11:36 pm

Bad coaching again never fails! Have to play team ball and hope our players hit shots in the 4th! If pietrus is on Joe he can’t force the issue he must pass and move without the ball

doc

May 3rd, 2012
11:36 pm

Gm jeje, no prob. Hurt me to see roy go out so young. I was begging for him on the blog the year he came out saying he and jj could compliment each other and let him be the big point. It would have been better than Clyde and earl in Knicks hey day.

Again bone on bone has many degrees and interpretations.

Yup on the spurs and the big fundamental though I thought stern gave them a pass over the suns a few years back sorry sob he is.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

Coach is taking this Jedi mind ish a little too far perhaps? Hmmmmmm

HighlightFactory

May 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

I have an idea. How about we go after Carmelo. We all know he won’t be a knock next year. We trade the knicks Marvin (which is a hill of beans) and maybe some draft picks. Who knows. We just have to make some kind of big move unless horford and zaza can get off their ass and help us win this series. Go Hawks!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:45 pm

Anyone but Miami. I’d hate to see OKC win it all because Westbrook annoys me but they have a great team. Harden and Ibaka will want serious bucks though

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:46 pm

Grass is not always greener on other side.

Amare and Melo were very close to Finals in recent years. Team they are on now, even with DPOTY, is hideous.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:47 pm

I’d trade Joe for Melo.

That’d give NYK two awful contracts so no way they do it.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

Dallas is being dismantled at home..Ouch! Down 25 early in the 4th!

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:54 pm

Wow, TNT showing the fans clearing out with 11 mins left in the game..

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
11:54 pm

Amazing. DAL could’ve won first two games and now getting owned.

ROTFLMAOLOL @ Kidd wanting the MLE

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
11:59 pm

Mark Cuban looks like he wants to bite somebody’s head off?

Wheres the Hawks ownership down at Reds?

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:02 am

Tmac! Tmac! Tmac!!!! Ld whats the problem???

doc

May 4th, 2012
12:07 am

Gm jeje, that is my mantra as well, anybody but Miami. I don’t think anyone will press them in the east now roes is done. I had delusions the Knicks could, then were trashed in game one.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:07 am

“tomatoe or tomotoe?”

Camel toe?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:09 am

JeJe I’m surprised that you posted that link to Jerry Stackhouse’s blog without calling him out for picking the Heat to win the East. That is much worse than me saying the Hawks should tank Game 3.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 4th, 2012
12:10 am

Should come as no surprise that LD has NOT called out Marvin.

Only players he calls out are Teague, Josh, and the bench

HELLO… IN 30+ MINUTES THE GUY HAS 5 FREAKING POINTS

AND PPL SAID A FEW DAYS AGO HE WAS PLAYING WELL

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:12 am

I keep thinking to myself……… Ok LD bout to let mcgrady do his thing this game but it never happens…. Some players especially the great ones you gotta let them stay in for a while so they can get used to and get a feel for the game…..

By the way I hate jordan….how he dismantled the hawks in the playoffs in the 90s……

I miss mookie blaylock….. Anybody know what alan henderson doing these days?…. Lol… Hendu had that 1 good year….

Do anybody remember when steve smith and glen rice went had it at the georgia tech building?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:13 am

“Okay. Substitute Sessions and Rubio for Brandon Jennings and Derrick Rose. Either way you understand what I mean.”

Actually, I still don’t. So you’re saying Rose couldn’t lead a team over the Celtics because he’s not a “true floor general”? He took a much worse Bulls team with no Thibodeau to 7 games against a much better Celtics team as a rookie in 2009.

Rondo the best all around PG in the league? I like Rondo as a player, but Chris Paul is rollin’ over in his grave.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 4th, 2012
12:15 am

Najeh,

He said he plans on us going to Finals but [assuming we don't get there] Miami has to be the favorite. He said Miami is playing the best now. That’s better than blatantly tanking a Playoff game, especially 3 days after that team won on the road in our arena WITHOUT its best player and HOF 2 guard.

Your critical analysis of a simple reading passage is quite appalling.

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:16 am

With a lil bit more confidence teague would be one of the best pgs in the league..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:16 am

There are many reasons why the Hawks might lose this series, but Teague is not even in the top 5. The Hawks’ struggles haven’t been because of Teague. Rondo’s team has been just as inefficient offensively as Teague’s team. So much for his “floor general” ability.

The key to the Celtics offense is Ray Allen. With him, they are tough to guard. Without him, they are easy to defend. The reason for this is that they use him in a way that magnifies his strength and opens things up for other people. The Hawks could consistently do the same thing with Joe and Josh, but they don’t, which is why they are easy to defend for any good team.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 4th, 2012
12:18 am

Doc,

Interested to see what IND does. Hopefully Hibb owns the glass and Granger has series of his life.

You think Spurs can win he West? Grizz are damn intriguing. I didn’t think of Mike Conley more than 4 times this entire season. No homo..such a lowkey team

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 4th, 2012
12:19 am

If Rondo makes jumpshots, albeit open, like he did vs us Sunday, he is the best PG. Nobody else can post a triple double with 18 boards and 17 assists or whatever

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:19 am

“He said he plans on us going to Finals but [assuming we don't get there] Miami has to be the favorite.”

if I put on my analyst hat, however, if we are looking at the personnel and everything that’s going on during these playoffs, I have to take Miami to win it all. Miami is the favorite to come out of the East

I don’t see “assuming we don’t get there” anywhere in that sentence. I see him saying that Miami has better players and is playing better, so they will win it all. Sounds like a man who has given up on making it anywhere past the ECF to me.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 4th, 2012
12:20 am

I kinda hope Ray plays Fri, is mad rusty, and Joe owns him. Joe will settle though…yawn

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:21 am

“If Rondo makes jumpshots, albeit open, like he did vs us Sunday, he is the best PG.”

Yeah, and if Josh makes jumpshots, he’s the best PF. Unfortunately for Rondo, he’s the worst shooting PG in the league and his jumper is even more broken than Josh’s jumper.

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:22 am

I remember when the hawks drafted josh…. Barkley was calling him the bust of the draft….. Charles hates the hawks with a passion…. I wonder what happened to demarr johnson… He was a good player to me….

Nobody could stop shareff abdul raheem in the post….fyi…lol..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:24 am

DerMarr Miles Johnson (born May 5, 1980) is an American basketball player who plays as an import for the Barako Bull Energy in the Philippine Basketball Association.

There you have it.

The Philippine League’s team names sound like a crackhead came up with them.

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:27 am

@davenpoop….. Who u got in this series?

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
12:44 am

Najeh,

Is stack house picking the heat to win the east worse than roddy white rooting for Boston?

doc

May 4th, 2012
12:49 am

Gm jeje the pacers were my dark horse in the east. I dont think stern will let them advance. They also have attendance issues like the hawks during reg season but don’t know how many jumped on board as they finished strong. Like the griz but not a conley fan.

I gues you need to look at the lakers in the west now along with okc in the west. Okc may not have the guns necessary to go up against the lakers at present.

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
12:53 am

Doc,

Including the Knicks this season, woody’s career playoff record is 11-21, including losing 7 straight (4 to Orlando, 3 to Miami).

I’ll have to look up what his average margin of defeat is, especially on the road.

For tomorrow’s game, I think it will be close going into the 4th (even if josh doesn’t play).

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
1:39 am

“Is stack house picking the heat to win the east worse than roddy white rooting for Boston?”

Much worse. At least Shoddy didn’t pick against his own team.

“Who u got in this series?”

My original pick was Hawks in 7. That was based on Josh being healthy and Ray Allen, Zaza, and Al missing most of the series. I am not backing down from that pick, but the Hawks are going to lose every game that Josh can’t play at full strength, so if he can’t get healthy really quick they are going down.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
1:59 am

(( Clearly the Hawks have struggled to score all season against Boston but they were talking about defense a lot over the last couple days.

Drew: “We just had too many defensive breakdowns, which you just can’t have in the playoffs. The margin for error in the playoffs is just too slim and as the playoffs go on it becomes even slimmer. We had too many defensive breakdowns and it started with our transition defense. Boston is not a team not known to get out and run a lot but they ran us constantly. Gave up 11 fast-break points that first game and we counted 28, me and the staff, in [Game 2]. That’s way, way, way too many.”

Mmmm hmmmm. You are exactly right coach.

Funny how playing good defense can turn into great offense going the other way.

Drew seems to know that you have to play defense for 48 minutes, not 32 minutes. And not playing defense in certain stretches of a game can absolutely KILL YOU in the playoffs. Even a 4 to 5 minute defensive lapse can lead to your demise.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
2:16 am

Rod (and mini-Rod),

It’s funny that facts always corroborate my views and completely trump yours and you continue to pay the same broken record.

We lost Game 2 against BOS when they went into “ultra-defensive” line up inserting Marquis Daniels to go with Pietrus, cranking up the perimeter D.

http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20120501&game=BOSATL

I don’t see where BOS went for the “extra gunner” to beat us, since that seems to be YOUR formula for playoff success.

They beat us with hustle and D which generated easy offense.

Also, you again say that Garnett and Bass would ALWAYS out rebound Josh and Zaza?

Heck, we lost the rebounding battle and Game 2 when Josh tweaked and then sprained the knee and even without Zaza we out rebounded BOS in game 1, 50 to 41.

I guess that you did not notice that until Josh left we were still leading.

AGAIN on the gunners:

NYK played two gunners that you love, ‘Melo and JR Smith.

One shot 7-23 from the field (’Melo) and the other shot 5-18 (JR Smith).

The total points scored by NYK with 2 gunners on the floor playing at least 38 minutes ?? 70, that’s SEVENTY if you have trouble understanding numerals.

The Hawks never had the benefit of proper coaching, as Woody’s complete flame out in the playoffs proves to satisfaction…

(Where are you slimjr???)

… and as these series against BOS is again showing with LD’s inexplicable rotations and complete lack of game plan and structure.

Defense and rebounding wins championships AND you need a huge dose of coaching to come up with TIMELY adjustments and counter adjustments to get your guys on their sweet spots.

The Hawks’ offense improved with LD from Woody’s exclusive ISO-JJ, but since LD goes into ISO-JJ to close games as well, we lost a lot of close games and are failing to execute down stretch in the playoffs.

BAD coaching is what is preventing us from winning, not the absence of a gunner on the floor.

If we had Jamal on the floor, Avery Bradley would eat his lunch day in, day out.

Since you and mini-You so much like to bring up Jamal’s past production against BOS as if you could transport stats from one game to another, here is a bit of news for you:

Sometimes you say that the Regular season does not matter and that the playoffs are a completely different animal, but somehow, when you want to “prove a point”, you use Jamal’s stats on regular season games against BOS, saying that they are important…

Be consistent man.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
2:24 am

If you look at our roster, one of the clear cut absences is of a perimeter defense player coming off the bench to put on the hot man (Pierce, Allen if he comes back) and spell JJ who simply can’t be asked to do it all.

Since Marvin is a complete no-show on both departments (offense and defense) we are simply ill equipped to hold off Pierce. Maybe Ivan could bully him and use his super fast hands to break his dribble.

Also, I saw too many plays in which Pierce simply went to the rack, so I am puzzled that we did not go into an aggressive zone D to break his rhythm.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:26 am

doc

Sounds like you and I were right about that OSTEOCHONDRAL DEFECT with Zaza. Zaza said a bone chip. Now we know for sure they were holding out on telling us the truth, heh?

Bottom line is this “crack” medical staff originally misdiagnosed Zaza, because he initially only wore the walking boot for two days, then last week and, after almost three weeks he is again in a walking boot?

Give me a break! They never did that CT-Scan until the other day, when that should have been the second thing they did after the X-Ray an MRI would have been a waste of precious time as the foot has more bones than soft tissue and the CT-Scan would have read both soft and hard tissue.

Man, this is the playoffs and, the medical staff is over there engaging in a “piss contest’! SMH

What a waste of precious time. Sounds like Josh is ready to roll.

Let’s Go Hawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:31 am

doc,

I would like to know more about this bone chip and, if it was in the dome area of the talus. Was there some loose body, cartilage or, just bone? We still don’t really know, but, I feel some cartilage broke loose with a piece of bone attached.

Oh well, 4-6 weeks tells me Zaza fractured his ankle and has been walking around on it all this time.

SMH

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:32 am

Marvin is a big azz BUSTER!

I don’t trust this guy. He has not shown up in these playoffs at all.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:33 am

OBIE!

“Is stack house picking the heat to win the east worse than roddy white rooting for Boston?”
_____

No.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:34 am

OBIE = O’Brien.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
3:01 am

(( sigh )) . . I guess I’ll entertain myself, and address these dudes

@ Jeje . . . those two guys couldn’t own a prostitute if she were selling the goodies for 2 dollars and 38 cents, plus tax. But cheerlead for those two from the sidelines if you want.

*****************

From High-Sider:

So, finally, I guess Mike Bibby, Boris Diaw, Stephen Jackson, Derek Fisher, Ramon Sessions and Gilbert Arenas are all better than Monta Ellis because Monta Ellis has yet to be acquired by a title contender thus far in his [Monta Ellis'] career. Monta Ellis was traded to the Bucks this past regular season.

Midseason trades or trades, in general, are based/determined/executed on teams’ needs, players’ contract value[s], teams’ salary cap structure[s], players’ fit on [the] teams, players’ attitudes, timing, availability, injuries to key players, etc.

*********************

And having said all of that, when at team WANTS YOU, they go AFTER YOU . . and they GET YOU.

In the end, despite only having a 5 million dollar a year price tag, and all of that “talent” that he has, no one wanted Jamal bad enough. Period. Not the Lakers, not the Clippers, not the Spurs . . heck, not even the Pacers wanted Jamal. They settled for Barbosa.

At least Nick landed on a playoff team via the backdoor of a multi-team trade. But nobody wanted Jamal. And there is a reason for that.

Lakers needed a PG and/or a scorer to ease the burden off of Kobe. Jamal was available, they chose Sessions. And yes, Sessions is a better player than Jamal. He’s going to shoot a high percentage from the field, because he’ll actually use his quickness to get into the paint, unlike Jamal, who uses his quickness to shoot off-balance jumpers. He’s a far superior passer than Jamal. And a much better defender.

PER: Sessions – 17.3 . . . Jamal – 15.7 . . . Young – 9.9

Advantage – Sessions

Golden State refused to trade Monta for simply anything. They actually wanted to keep him. But to possibly acquire a decent center in Bogut, and free up Curry as the backcourt leader of the team, was a change that was needed in G-State. “SmallBall” was not going to get them back to the playoffs. So Monta was simply traded to a team that would give them a quality big back. It’s not that no one wanted Monta. It was that G-State wanted a big man for Monta. Funny though. After only 3 months in G-State, Nellie didn’t want Jamal, trading him to us for scraps, just to get out from under that contract.

Bibby and Fisher were both traded to a non-playoff team, then waved. At that point, the contending team picked them up on waivers, based on their playoff experience. Both Bibby and Fisher have been PGs and clutch performers on some very good playoff teams.

And forget Arenas, the question you should be asking is why didn’t the Griz trade OJ Mayo ( their high volume scorer ) for Jamal? They virtually make the same money. OJ is a restricted free agent this summer. So if Jamal was so good, why not trade OJ for Jamal, seeing that Portland actively had Jamal on the block?

Good teams don’t want that dude. Even the Hawks traded scraps ( Speedy Claxton and Acie Law ) to get him. Ironically, there’s no way they would’ve traded Marvin back in 2009 for Jamal, despite Jamal taking most of his crunch time minutes and shots in ATL.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
3:40 am

And Rodney . . re-read Vava’s 2:16 AM post.

And speaking of the NY vs Miami game, look at when NY lost complete control of the game. A simple 8 – 0 run to start the 4th quarter blew that game open. And guess who was on the bench for the Knicks.

Tyson Chandler

8 quick points by Lebron, specifically the scrapping he did to keep the ball alive and score that layup to put them up 7, was the play that gave Miami enough cushion the rest of the game. Then he makes another 3, and the game is virutally over.

Up until that point, the Knicks were playing pretty much a dream defensive game, despite the poor offense. Even had Lebron in foul trouble. But in an instant, it was gone.

That is exactly what I was talking about yesterday. When you play that well defensively for 3 quarters, you CAN’T have your defense break down in the 4th. That should’ve been a game in which the Knicks and Heat battle down to the wire, in which the first team to score 75 points wins the game. Instead, 2 lightning quick 4th quarter runs knock the Knicks out.

The gunner(s): Melo and JR, couldn’t save the Knicks. Why? Because offense don’t win playoff games. Defense does.

Then you look at the Thunder and Mavs. Defensive breakdowns all over the place for the Mavs tonight. No Tyson Chandler in the middle to deter penetration into the lane. And Dirk being locked up by Perk, Ibaka, and even Collison.

Dallas without the 2012 Defensive Player of the Year ( Tyson Chandler ) looks like a shell of their defensive self.

Keep longing for streaky, non defense playing shooters who you say would help the Hawks.

The Hawks will win this series if they make a full commitment to play defense for 48 minutes. Can’t have any lulls in the defense, especially in the 4th quarter.

Brian

May 4th, 2012
9:19 am

When is the last time joe johnson took over a game like Paul pierce when it counted…yea, I couldn’t think of one either!

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
9:32 am

Although I am rooting for okc in the west, Im not sure they have what it takes. They have a penchant for turnovers at the wrong time, and sometimes westbrook is more of a scorer, when he should facilitate, and get the ball to KD. And if they are forced into halfcourt offenses, they could struggle.

rollow lawson

May 4th, 2012
9:37 am

Josh is a WARRIOR!!!! Take notes Joe and Al. Nothing else needs to be said.

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
9:37 am

The problem for the hawks is they are inconsistent on defense, and inconsistent on offense. Against good teams, I don’t think they cAn crank it up on either end of the floor when they need to, even If of talks until he is blue in the face.

And as much as ld talks about defense, he is an offensive minded coach, and has sacrificed defense for offense on numerous occasions.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
9:46 am

Never Seen!

I have never seen Josh Smith, in an Armani Suit. And, I hope I never will.

MsDee

May 4th, 2012
9:51 am

Hay, what could we give up to get Westbrook? I dont see Westbrook finishing his career with OKC as long as Durant is there. He wants his OWN shine and we could use a combo guard like him.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
9:52 am

Brian,

JJ is not that type of player unfortunately, but he is still a very good player and for instance a better defender than Pierce.

Pierce had a very good first and fourth quarters but struggled in the second and in the third with JJ guarding him well many minutes.

It isn’t JJ’s fault that he is not as good as Pierce and on Tuesday Pierce was in a zone, getting all friendly bounces to go in at crucial moments.

Also, it was not JJ’s fault as well that Josh went down with several minutes to go, which meant that our defense at the rim was non existent from that point onwards.

Pierce went to the rack without effective help defense being able to stop his layups.

Also, JJ is subject to constant double and tripe teams (in many occasions because we play 4 on 5 or even 3 on 5 on offense when Collins and/or Marvin are on the court) whilst LD simply stared at Pierce getting to the rack without considering doubling him or going for a zone D.

LD made ZERO defensive adjustments with the game on the line and minus our main defensive cog on the floor.

Heck, the Hawks and JJ played a very decent game but the last stretch of playoff games is where you see coaching making an impact.

Without Josh on the floor and no defensive adjustments it was not that difficult for Pierce to take over.

At the end of the 3rd quarter, Pierce was 7 of 19 from the field. Good for a playoff game but nothing out of this world (he was 2 for 10 during the second and third quarters).

LD ALLOWED PIERCE TO GO OFF, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH JJ.

If Doc had left JJ play with single coverage and not a single shot blocker in the game, I don’t see how JJ could not have a 10/15 point third quarter as well (even though he is not in Pierce’s level as a player).

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:01 am

Brian

May 4th, 2012
9:19 am

When is the last time joe johnson took over a game like Paul pierce when it counted…yea, I couldn’t think of one either!

**********************

In the playoffs? It would be this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puBcHqdfm7c

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:11 am

We may need this version of JJ in the Garden tonight. He won’t be afraid of the moment if he has it going

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_guZQF4OoA

The question is . . will Boston play him straight up? The answer is no. And this game is the reason why.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
10:11 am

northcyde,

JJ also scored 10 points in the 4th against the Bulls on game 4 when we leveled the series.

Josh had a monster game but JJ took over in crunch time and scored almost half of his points to close the game.

BUT, he is not in the same category as Pierce offensively and it’s a shame that he does not rebound well for his size.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
10:29 am

Actually I was wrong. I may be mixing it up with one of the wins against ORL.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:32 am

O’brien

May 4th, 2012
9:37 am

The problem for the hawks is they are inconsistent on defense, and inconsistent on offense. Against good teams, I don’t think they cAn crank it up on either end of the floor when they need to, even If of talks until he is blue in the face.

And as much as ld talks about defense, he is an offensive minded coach, and has sacrificed defense for offense on numerous occasions.

*****************

Can’t disagree with this. Especially that last paragraph. His response all year has been to put an offensive minded guy into the game, when defense is needed.

It’ll be interesting to see what Drew does in this game, especially if Josh can’t go. His lineups are going to be offensive ones, but may have to adjust things from a defensive standpoint. And if Dampier is to be used tonight, that means that Collins and Dampier will man the center spot at all times ( or at least until both fouls out ). Dampier is a better rebounder than Collins, so that may help us on the offensive end.

Drew might luck up into something, if a Dampier – Ivan frontline can get some offensive rebounds and put the ball back into the hole. Then again, Dampier has only scored 2 points in 83 total minutes, despite grabbing 10 offensive rebounds, so maybe that is wishful thinking.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:41 am

One of the things I would like to see from Teague tonight, especially if he’s not scoring efficiently, is to continue to attack, but look for teammates. Too many times in Game 2, he simply looked to attack the rim and score, instead of possibly setting people up.

Take a page from Rondo, and attack the paint . . and kick the ball out to shooters or get big men lay-up chances at the rim.

Overall, I like that kid’s aggressiveness in those first 2 games. Like Najeh said, Teague may can play better, but he’s not one of the top 5 reasons why the Hawks aren’t up 2 – 0.

MsDee

May 4th, 2012
10:52 am

Well, to be honest, Teague COULD have very well been a top reason why we could be up. Teague sets teammates up all the time but Joe, Josh & Zaza (as good as he has been as a starter this year) constantly misses their shot around the basket and often times cost Teague his assists. If Josh could give Teague the ball off rebounds it could too helped Teague to carry this team cause by doing so, would give him the opportunity to receive the outlet pass from Josh off the rebound to 1) run the floor for an ally back to Josh, 2) drive to the lane for a quick layup/ AND1, or 3) drive and dish to an open Joe or Marvin for an assist. Heck, Rondo gets HIS assists cause he has players who MAKE their shots, while Teague, unfortunately, doesn’t.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:56 am

I’m specifically talking about Game 2 MsDee . . but you are right. When guys can’t make open jumpers or miss point blank lay-ups, that doesn’t help Teague one bit from an assist standpoint.

You and I are starting to agree more and more this series. I’m a little scared of that. Kinda strange not agreeing with you 75% of the time.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
10:56 am

“If you look at our roster, one of the clear cut absences is of a perimeter defense player coming off the bench to put on the hot man (Pierce, Allen if he comes back) and spell JJ who simply can’t be asked to do it all.”

I have been saying this all season. The Hawks miss Damien, and they used his roster spot on the much more useless Vlad.

Pierce went off in Game 2 because he is a great player, but at least 5 or 6 of his made shots were very weakly contested by Joe. Some of what he did could have been avoided.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:56 am

Kinda strange not ( disagreeing ) with you 75% of the time.

cdog

May 4th, 2012
11:04 am

josh should wait,
they will either one or both, then come and end the celtics season

TMACfan

May 4th, 2012
11:06 am

FIRE LD!

#FreeTMAC

FIRE LD!

#FreeTMAC

FIRE LD!

#FreeTMAC

FIRE LD!

#FreeTMAC

Section 303

May 4th, 2012
11:15 am

O’brien, I thought the Hawks defense was actually OK in Game 2. The only time they got into trouble was when LD tried to use halfcourt traps, with about 5 minutes left. Hawks would trap (usually in the corner, just beyond halfcourt), Boston would pass out of it, and have a 4 on 3 advantage. Celtics got easy shot, after easy shot late. Drew just kept trapping, though.

I think offense is a bigger issue. Hawks seem to only score when they are running. Assuming there is no Josh tonight, that will be difficult to do. Their rebounding will be brutal. That alone will make it too hard to run.

This one will be ugly tonight. I just can’t wait for it to be over with.

Giving the Hawks less than a 0% chance of getting a win.

yoursporthousedotcom aka Sam from the Swats

May 4th, 2012
11:26 am

Zero Williams should be banned from the team bus. We have received absolutely nothing for a #2 draft pick.

doc

May 4th, 2012
11:46 am

i have a bad feeling that twin is going to be terribly exposed without josh on the court to provide help defense. doc is also gong to attack right at the weakest link and ld had better come up with a strategy quickly r move twin out of the game and find something else to fill that position. dampier has not been used at all and that has been a mistake as he is more mobile than twin. vlad is the next best big but like so many of the hawks he plays a lot smaller than he is as does our fav whipping boy marvin. ivan is the only guy besides josh and really teague that plays bigger than they are.

Michael Cunningham

May 4th, 2012
11:49 am

new blog posted. shutting down this thread.

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