Atlanta Hawks: Notes and quotes

  • Josh Smith was walking without a noticeable limp today. He plans to test his sprained left knee at shootaround tomorrow morning in Boston. “I haven’t done anything as far as running on it,” he said. “I will have to see how it feels tomorrow. At shootaround I will probably try to go a little bit harder than I normally do and see how it feels.”
  • Told that Larry Drew said the decision on whether to play is up to him, Josh said: “Oh, they are going to put the pressure on me like that? [He was smiling]. It’s OK. If it feels good, I’m going to go. I’m not one to harness injuries. I have a high threshold for pain. If I feel like I can go a little bit I’m going to step out on floor.”
  • Asked if he feels a sense of urgency to play in Game 3 because the Hawks are already thin with big men, Josh said: “I don’t want to put that much pressure on me. I understand how important this series is but it’s more than one game. I don’t want to go out there too early and risk getting injured more than I have.”
  • Dr. Alexis Colvin, an assistant professor of orthopaedic surgery at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, said patellar tendonitis develops through overuse. Colvin said that there can be risk of further injury because of weakness in the joint but that it’s possible for athletes to continue playing if they can tolerate the pain. “It is something you can potentially play with if the symptoms are not that bad,” she said.
  • Drew: “It’s strictly going to go on his call. I know Josh, he’s a warrior. If he feels like he can play, he wants to be out there. If he can’t go we don’t want him out there limping around and injuring the knee.”
  • During the portion of practice open to media, the starters were Jeff Teague, Kirk Hinrich, Joe Johnson, Tracy McGrady and Erick Dampier (who was felling in while Jason Collins rested his sore left Achilles).
  • My guess is if Josh can’t go, it would be Marvin Williams starting at power forward rather than McGrady, which I think could be a good idea (more on that later). Drew: “We go in looking at matchups. We will probably have to move Marvin to playing more four than normal. We will probably have to play T-Mac some there. We have to try to get as much production as we can knowing that guys are out of position.”
  • Zaza Pachulia offered the most detailed info yet on the left foot injury he suffered April 13. He said he suffered a bone chip in his left foot as well as a sprained left ankle and was told by a foot specialist that it would take 4-6 weeks of rehab. It will be three weeks tomorrow since the injury, so best-case scenario means a return for Game 6 Thursday if the series is extended.
  • Zaza said he’s tried to speed up the process but “you can’t outrun the timeline” for the injury: “It’s getting better. I haven’t tried to run or jump yet [because] the doctor hasn’t cleared me. When I walk it’s fine but as soon as I put pressure on it, it hurts.”
  • The Hawks have scored 90.5 points per 100 possessions in this series after posting a 92.2 mark in the three regular-season games against Boston. Consider that Charlotte had the least efficient offense during the regular season at 92.3 points per 100 possessions (a comparison that comes with a large vs. small sample size disclaimer). Clearly the Hawks have struggled to score all season against Boston but they were talking about defense a lot over the last couple days.
  • Drew: “We just had too many defensive breakdowns, which you just can’t have in the playoffs. The margin for error in the playoffs is just too slim and as the playoffs go on it becomes even slimmer. We had too many defensive breakdowns and it started with our transition defense. Boston is not a team not known to get out and run a lot but they ran us constantly. Gave up 11 fast-break points that first game and we counted 28, me and the staff, in [Game 2]. That’s way, way, way too many.”
  • According to Synergy Sports Technology, Boston used 10 transition possessions in Game 1 and scored 40 percent of the time for 0.9 points per possession. In Game 2, the Celtics used 18 transition possessions and scored 61 percent of the time for 1.22 points per possession.
  • That’s a big difference for two teams that played to a draw offensively during the regular season. It also hints that the Celtics decided they had to push the pace without Rajon Rondo. Drew: “Not taking anything way from them but they are just not known for being a running team. They must have saw something that fueled them to get out and run more. We have to combat that.”
  • Marvin: “They had a few fast-break points on us and that’s normally not like us to give up that many.” He’s right: The Hawks had the sixth-best defensive efficiency in transition during the regular season, allowing 1.12 points per possession.
  • How can the Hawks be better defending the break? “We have to do a better job with our defensive balance,” Marvin said. “A lot of times we would have two, three, four guys going to the offensive glass and just kind of hanging out in the paint area.”
  • Drew’s message for his players today focused on sharper execution during the the late third-, early-fourth periods. Boston has dialed up its defensive pressure in both games during that time. Drew told his players the Celtics especially pressured the wings and the elbow area, forcing catches farther away from the basket to disrupt the offense, and also said Boston loaded up when the Hawks kept the ball on one side of the floor.
  • Drew: “It was our inability to get into our sets. We allowed the pressure to take us out of what we wanted to do. You can’t allow that to happen, not in the playoffs. You’ve got to do things harder, do things with pace. We were too lethargic, too methodical.”
  • Collins: “We have to continue to get out on the break and get some easy baskets in transition and offensively we’ve got to continue to try to attack the basket and get to the free-throw line.”
  • Joe : “In the first two, three quarters we are probably at our best running and getting up down the floor. Then in that fourth, for whatever reason–fatigue maybe—we just get a little stagnant and our offense just doesn’t flow as much. That is something we will look at on tape and try to make adjustments, and I am sure we will do better.”
  • Yes, I know, blog people. Play faster, attack the basket, earn free-throws–you’ve heard all of this before.
  • Drew on whether he will stagger the rest periods for his starters to counter Doc Rivers riding Rondo, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett: “I want to make sure if I can get guys proper amount of rest. I do want to ride my starters but I don’t want to wear them out. It’s going to be a long series. I could probably stagger them a little bit more but I have to make sure I don’t wear guys down and run them in the ground. I have all the confidence in the world in my bench. They’ve been good for us all season and I’m not going to give up on them now.”
  • Marvin on the reserves: “It’s taken a couple of us a little while to get going. Sometimes we don’t really have a little while. We’ve got to make a conscious effort to get out there and get started a little sooner.”
  • Rondo says he will “try and not let my emotions get the best of me” in return from suspension.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

145 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:19 am

“He said he plans on us going to Finals but [assuming we don't get there] Miami has to be the favorite.”

if I put on my analyst hat, however, if we are looking at the personnel and everything that’s going on during these playoffs, I have to take Miami to win it all. Miami is the favorite to come out of the East

I don’t see “assuming we don’t get there” anywhere in that sentence. I see him saying that Miami has better players and is playing better, so they will win it all. Sounds like a man who has given up on making it anywhere past the ECF to me.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 4th, 2012
12:20 am

I kinda hope Ray plays Fri, is mad rusty, and Joe owns him. Joe will settle though…yawn

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:21 am

“If Rondo makes jumpshots, albeit open, like he did vs us Sunday, he is the best PG.”

Yeah, and if Josh makes jumpshots, he’s the best PF. Unfortunately for Rondo, he’s the worst shooting PG in the league and his jumper is even more broken than Josh’s jumper.

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:22 am

I remember when the hawks drafted josh…. Barkley was calling him the bust of the draft….. Charles hates the hawks with a passion…. I wonder what happened to demarr johnson… He was a good player to me….

Nobody could stop shareff abdul raheem in the post….fyi…lol..

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
12:24 am

DerMarr Miles Johnson (born May 5, 1980) is an American basketball player who plays as an import for the Barako Bull Energy in the Philippine Basketball Association.

There you have it.

The Philippine League’s team names sound like a crackhead came up with them.

Geno

May 4th, 2012
12:27 am

@davenpoop….. Who u got in this series?

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
12:44 am

Najeh,

Is stack house picking the heat to win the east worse than roddy white rooting for Boston?

doc

May 4th, 2012
12:49 am

Gm jeje the pacers were my dark horse in the east. I dont think stern will let them advance. They also have attendance issues like the hawks during reg season but don’t know how many jumped on board as they finished strong. Like the griz but not a conley fan.

I gues you need to look at the lakers in the west now along with okc in the west. Okc may not have the guns necessary to go up against the lakers at present.

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
12:53 am

Doc,

Including the Knicks this season, woody’s career playoff record is 11-21, including losing 7 straight (4 to Orlando, 3 to Miami).

I’ll have to look up what his average margin of defeat is, especially on the road.

For tomorrow’s game, I think it will be close going into the 4th (even if josh doesn’t play).

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
1:39 am

“Is stack house picking the heat to win the east worse than roddy white rooting for Boston?”

Much worse. At least Shoddy didn’t pick against his own team.

“Who u got in this series?”

My original pick was Hawks in 7. That was based on Josh being healthy and Ray Allen, Zaza, and Al missing most of the series. I am not backing down from that pick, but the Hawks are going to lose every game that Josh can’t play at full strength, so if he can’t get healthy really quick they are going down.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
1:59 am

(( Clearly the Hawks have struggled to score all season against Boston but they were talking about defense a lot over the last couple days.

Drew: “We just had too many defensive breakdowns, which you just can’t have in the playoffs. The margin for error in the playoffs is just too slim and as the playoffs go on it becomes even slimmer. We had too many defensive breakdowns and it started with our transition defense. Boston is not a team not known to get out and run a lot but they ran us constantly. Gave up 11 fast-break points that first game and we counted 28, me and the staff, in [Game 2]. That’s way, way, way too many.”

Mmmm hmmmm. You are exactly right coach.

Funny how playing good defense can turn into great offense going the other way.

Drew seems to know that you have to play defense for 48 minutes, not 32 minutes. And not playing defense in certain stretches of a game can absolutely KILL YOU in the playoffs. Even a 4 to 5 minute defensive lapse can lead to your demise.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
2:16 am

Rod (and mini-Rod),

It’s funny that facts always corroborate my views and completely trump yours and you continue to pay the same broken record.

We lost Game 2 against BOS when they went into “ultra-defensive” line up inserting Marquis Daniels to go with Pietrus, cranking up the perimeter D.

http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20120501&game=BOSATL

I don’t see where BOS went for the “extra gunner” to beat us, since that seems to be YOUR formula for playoff success.

They beat us with hustle and D which generated easy offense.

Also, you again say that Garnett and Bass would ALWAYS out rebound Josh and Zaza?

Heck, we lost the rebounding battle and Game 2 when Josh tweaked and then sprained the knee and even without Zaza we out rebounded BOS in game 1, 50 to 41.

I guess that you did not notice that until Josh left we were still leading.

AGAIN on the gunners:

NYK played two gunners that you love, ‘Melo and JR Smith.

One shot 7-23 from the field (’Melo) and the other shot 5-18 (JR Smith).

The total points scored by NYK with 2 gunners on the floor playing at least 38 minutes ?? 70, that’s SEVENTY if you have trouble understanding numerals.

The Hawks never had the benefit of proper coaching, as Woody’s complete flame out in the playoffs proves to satisfaction…

(Where are you slimjr???)

… and as these series against BOS is again showing with LD’s inexplicable rotations and complete lack of game plan and structure.

Defense and rebounding wins championships AND you need a huge dose of coaching to come up with TIMELY adjustments and counter adjustments to get your guys on their sweet spots.

The Hawks’ offense improved with LD from Woody’s exclusive ISO-JJ, but since LD goes into ISO-JJ to close games as well, we lost a lot of close games and are failing to execute down stretch in the playoffs.

BAD coaching is what is preventing us from winning, not the absence of a gunner on the floor.

If we had Jamal on the floor, Avery Bradley would eat his lunch day in, day out.

Since you and mini-You so much like to bring up Jamal’s past production against BOS as if you could transport stats from one game to another, here is a bit of news for you:

Sometimes you say that the Regular season does not matter and that the playoffs are a completely different animal, but somehow, when you want to “prove a point”, you use Jamal’s stats on regular season games against BOS, saying that they are important…

Be consistent man.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
2:24 am

If you look at our roster, one of the clear cut absences is of a perimeter defense player coming off the bench to put on the hot man (Pierce, Allen if he comes back) and spell JJ who simply can’t be asked to do it all.

Since Marvin is a complete no-show on both departments (offense and defense) we are simply ill equipped to hold off Pierce. Maybe Ivan could bully him and use his super fast hands to break his dribble.

Also, I saw too many plays in which Pierce simply went to the rack, so I am puzzled that we did not go into an aggressive zone D to break his rhythm.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:26 am

doc

Sounds like you and I were right about that OSTEOCHONDRAL DEFECT with Zaza. Zaza said a bone chip. Now we know for sure they were holding out on telling us the truth, heh?

Bottom line is this “crack” medical staff originally misdiagnosed Zaza, because he initially only wore the walking boot for two days, then last week and, after almost three weeks he is again in a walking boot?

Give me a break! They never did that CT-Scan until the other day, when that should have been the second thing they did after the X-Ray an MRI would have been a waste of precious time as the foot has more bones than soft tissue and the CT-Scan would have read both soft and hard tissue.

Man, this is the playoffs and, the medical staff is over there engaging in a “piss contest’! SMH

What a waste of precious time. Sounds like Josh is ready to roll.

Let’s Go Hawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:31 am

doc,

I would like to know more about this bone chip and, if it was in the dome area of the talus. Was there some loose body, cartilage or, just bone? We still don’t really know, but, I feel some cartilage broke loose with a piece of bone attached.

Oh well, 4-6 weeks tells me Zaza fractured his ankle and has been walking around on it all this time.

SMH

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:32 am

Marvin is a big azz BUSTER!

I don’t trust this guy. He has not shown up in these playoffs at all.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:33 am

OBIE!

“Is stack house picking the heat to win the east worse than roddy white rooting for Boston?”
_____

No.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
2:34 am

OBIE = O’Brien.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
3:01 am

(( sigh )) . . I guess I’ll entertain myself, and address these dudes

@ Jeje . . . those two guys couldn’t own a prostitute if she were selling the goodies for 2 dollars and 38 cents, plus tax. But cheerlead for those two from the sidelines if you want.

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From High-Sider:

So, finally, I guess Mike Bibby, Boris Diaw, Stephen Jackson, Derek Fisher, Ramon Sessions and Gilbert Arenas are all better than Monta Ellis because Monta Ellis has yet to be acquired by a title contender thus far in his [Monta Ellis'] career. Monta Ellis was traded to the Bucks this past regular season.

Midseason trades or trades, in general, are based/determined/executed on teams’ needs, players’ contract value[s], teams’ salary cap structure[s], players’ fit on [the] teams, players’ attitudes, timing, availability, injuries to key players, etc.

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And having said all of that, when at team WANTS YOU, they go AFTER YOU . . and they GET YOU.

In the end, despite only having a 5 million dollar a year price tag, and all of that “talent” that he has, no one wanted Jamal bad enough. Period. Not the Lakers, not the Clippers, not the Spurs . . heck, not even the Pacers wanted Jamal. They settled for Barbosa.

At least Nick landed on a playoff team via the backdoor of a multi-team trade. But nobody wanted Jamal. And there is a reason for that.

Lakers needed a PG and/or a scorer to ease the burden off of Kobe. Jamal was available, they chose Sessions. And yes, Sessions is a better player than Jamal. He’s going to shoot a high percentage from the field, because he’ll actually use his quickness to get into the paint, unlike Jamal, who uses his quickness to shoot off-balance jumpers. He’s a far superior passer than Jamal. And a much better defender.

PER: Sessions – 17.3 . . . Jamal – 15.7 . . . Young – 9.9

Advantage – Sessions

Golden State refused to trade Monta for simply anything. They actually wanted to keep him. But to possibly acquire a decent center in Bogut, and free up Curry as the backcourt leader of the team, was a change that was needed in G-State. “SmallBall” was not going to get them back to the playoffs. So Monta was simply traded to a team that would give them a quality big back. It’s not that no one wanted Monta. It was that G-State wanted a big man for Monta. Funny though. After only 3 months in G-State, Nellie didn’t want Jamal, trading him to us for scraps, just to get out from under that contract.

Bibby and Fisher were both traded to a non-playoff team, then waved. At that point, the contending team picked them up on waivers, based on their playoff experience. Both Bibby and Fisher have been PGs and clutch performers on some very good playoff teams.

And forget Arenas, the question you should be asking is why didn’t the Griz trade OJ Mayo ( their high volume scorer ) for Jamal? They virtually make the same money. OJ is a restricted free agent this summer. So if Jamal was so good, why not trade OJ for Jamal, seeing that Portland actively had Jamal on the block?

Good teams don’t want that dude. Even the Hawks traded scraps ( Speedy Claxton and Acie Law ) to get him. Ironically, there’s no way they would’ve traded Marvin back in 2009 for Jamal, despite Jamal taking most of his crunch time minutes and shots in ATL.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
3:40 am

And Rodney . . re-read Vava’s 2:16 AM post.

And speaking of the NY vs Miami game, look at when NY lost complete control of the game. A simple 8 – 0 run to start the 4th quarter blew that game open. And guess who was on the bench for the Knicks.

Tyson Chandler

8 quick points by Lebron, specifically the scrapping he did to keep the ball alive and score that layup to put them up 7, was the play that gave Miami enough cushion the rest of the game. Then he makes another 3, and the game is virutally over.

Up until that point, the Knicks were playing pretty much a dream defensive game, despite the poor offense. Even had Lebron in foul trouble. But in an instant, it was gone.

That is exactly what I was talking about yesterday. When you play that well defensively for 3 quarters, you CAN’T have your defense break down in the 4th. That should’ve been a game in which the Knicks and Heat battle down to the wire, in which the first team to score 75 points wins the game. Instead, 2 lightning quick 4th quarter runs knock the Knicks out.

The gunner(s): Melo and JR, couldn’t save the Knicks. Why? Because offense don’t win playoff games. Defense does.

Then you look at the Thunder and Mavs. Defensive breakdowns all over the place for the Mavs tonight. No Tyson Chandler in the middle to deter penetration into the lane. And Dirk being locked up by Perk, Ibaka, and even Collison.

Dallas without the 2012 Defensive Player of the Year ( Tyson Chandler ) looks like a shell of their defensive self.

Keep longing for streaky, non defense playing shooters who you say would help the Hawks.

The Hawks will win this series if they make a full commitment to play defense for 48 minutes. Can’t have any lulls in the defense, especially in the 4th quarter.

Brian

May 4th, 2012
9:19 am

When is the last time joe johnson took over a game like Paul pierce when it counted…yea, I couldn’t think of one either!

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
9:32 am

Although I am rooting for okc in the west, Im not sure they have what it takes. They have a penchant for turnovers at the wrong time, and sometimes westbrook is more of a scorer, when he should facilitate, and get the ball to KD. And if they are forced into halfcourt offenses, they could struggle.

rollow lawson

May 4th, 2012
9:37 am

Josh is a WARRIOR!!!! Take notes Joe and Al. Nothing else needs to be said.

O'brien

May 4th, 2012
9:37 am

The problem for the hawks is they are inconsistent on defense, and inconsistent on offense. Against good teams, I don’t think they cAn crank it up on either end of the floor when they need to, even If of talks until he is blue in the face.

And as much as ld talks about defense, he is an offensive minded coach, and has sacrificed defense for offense on numerous occasions.

drmaryb.(*_*).

May 4th, 2012
9:46 am

Never Seen!

I have never seen Josh Smith, in an Armani Suit. And, I hope I never will.

MsDee

May 4th, 2012
9:51 am

Hay, what could we give up to get Westbrook? I dont see Westbrook finishing his career with OKC as long as Durant is there. He wants his OWN shine and we could use a combo guard like him.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
9:52 am

Brian,

JJ is not that type of player unfortunately, but he is still a very good player and for instance a better defender than Pierce.

Pierce had a very good first and fourth quarters but struggled in the second and in the third with JJ guarding him well many minutes.

It isn’t JJ’s fault that he is not as good as Pierce and on Tuesday Pierce was in a zone, getting all friendly bounces to go in at crucial moments.

Also, it was not JJ’s fault as well that Josh went down with several minutes to go, which meant that our defense at the rim was non existent from that point onwards.

Pierce went to the rack without effective help defense being able to stop his layups.

Also, JJ is subject to constant double and tripe teams (in many occasions because we play 4 on 5 or even 3 on 5 on offense when Collins and/or Marvin are on the court) whilst LD simply stared at Pierce getting to the rack without considering doubling him or going for a zone D.

LD made ZERO defensive adjustments with the game on the line and minus our main defensive cog on the floor.

Heck, the Hawks and JJ played a very decent game but the last stretch of playoff games is where you see coaching making an impact.

Without Josh on the floor and no defensive adjustments it was not that difficult for Pierce to take over.

At the end of the 3rd quarter, Pierce was 7 of 19 from the field. Good for a playoff game but nothing out of this world (he was 2 for 10 during the second and third quarters).

LD ALLOWED PIERCE TO GO OFF, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH JJ.

If Doc had left JJ play with single coverage and not a single shot blocker in the game, I don’t see how JJ could not have a 10/15 point third quarter as well (even though he is not in Pierce’s level as a player).

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:01 am

Brian

May 4th, 2012
9:19 am

When is the last time joe johnson took over a game like Paul pierce when it counted…yea, I couldn’t think of one either!

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In the playoffs? It would be this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puBcHqdfm7c

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:11 am

We may need this version of JJ in the Garden tonight. He won’t be afraid of the moment if he has it going

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_guZQF4OoA

The question is . . will Boston play him straight up? The answer is no. And this game is the reason why.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
10:11 am

northcyde,

JJ also scored 10 points in the 4th against the Bulls on game 4 when we leveled the series.

Josh had a monster game but JJ took over in crunch time and scored almost half of his points to close the game.

BUT, he is not in the same category as Pierce offensively and it’s a shame that he does not rebound well for his size.

vava74

May 4th, 2012
10:29 am

Actually I was wrong. I may be mixing it up with one of the wins against ORL.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:32 am

O’brien

May 4th, 2012
9:37 am

The problem for the hawks is they are inconsistent on defense, and inconsistent on offense. Against good teams, I don’t think they cAn crank it up on either end of the floor when they need to, even If of talks until he is blue in the face.

And as much as ld talks about defense, he is an offensive minded coach, and has sacrificed defense for offense on numerous occasions.

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Can’t disagree with this. Especially that last paragraph. His response all year has been to put an offensive minded guy into the game, when defense is needed.

It’ll be interesting to see what Drew does in this game, especially if Josh can’t go. His lineups are going to be offensive ones, but may have to adjust things from a defensive standpoint. And if Dampier is to be used tonight, that means that Collins and Dampier will man the center spot at all times ( or at least until both fouls out ). Dampier is a better rebounder than Collins, so that may help us on the offensive end.

Drew might luck up into something, if a Dampier – Ivan frontline can get some offensive rebounds and put the ball back into the hole. Then again, Dampier has only scored 2 points in 83 total minutes, despite grabbing 10 offensive rebounds, so maybe that is wishful thinking.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:41 am

One of the things I would like to see from Teague tonight, especially if he’s not scoring efficiently, is to continue to attack, but look for teammates. Too many times in Game 2, he simply looked to attack the rim and score, instead of possibly setting people up.

Take a page from Rondo, and attack the paint . . and kick the ball out to shooters or get big men lay-up chances at the rim.

Overall, I like that kid’s aggressiveness in those first 2 games. Like Najeh said, Teague may can play better, but he’s not one of the top 5 reasons why the Hawks aren’t up 2 – 0.

MsDee

May 4th, 2012
10:52 am

Well, to be honest, Teague COULD have very well been a top reason why we could be up. Teague sets teammates up all the time but Joe, Josh & Zaza (as good as he has been as a starter this year) constantly misses their shot around the basket and often times cost Teague his assists. If Josh could give Teague the ball off rebounds it could too helped Teague to carry this team cause by doing so, would give him the opportunity to receive the outlet pass from Josh off the rebound to 1) run the floor for an ally back to Josh, 2) drive to the lane for a quick layup/ AND1, or 3) drive and dish to an open Joe or Marvin for an assist. Heck, Rondo gets HIS assists cause he has players who MAKE their shots, while Teague, unfortunately, doesn’t.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:56 am

I’m specifically talking about Game 2 MsDee . . but you are right. When guys can’t make open jumpers or miss point blank lay-ups, that doesn’t help Teague one bit from an assist standpoint.

You and I are starting to agree more and more this series. I’m a little scared of that. Kinda strange not agreeing with you 75% of the time.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 4th, 2012
10:56 am

“If you look at our roster, one of the clear cut absences is of a perimeter defense player coming off the bench to put on the hot man (Pierce, Allen if he comes back) and spell JJ who simply can’t be asked to do it all.”

I have been saying this all season. The Hawks miss Damien, and they used his roster spot on the much more useless Vlad.

Pierce went off in Game 2 because he is a great player, but at least 5 or 6 of his made shots were very weakly contested by Joe. Some of what he did could have been avoided.

northcyde

May 4th, 2012
10:56 am

Kinda strange not ( disagreeing ) with you 75% of the time.

cdog

May 4th, 2012
11:04 am

josh should wait,
they will either one or both, then come and end the celtics season

TMACfan

May 4th, 2012
11:06 am

FIRE LD!

#FreeTMAC

FIRE LD!

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Section 303

May 4th, 2012
11:15 am

O’brien, I thought the Hawks defense was actually OK in Game 2. The only time they got into trouble was when LD tried to use halfcourt traps, with about 5 minutes left. Hawks would trap (usually in the corner, just beyond halfcourt), Boston would pass out of it, and have a 4 on 3 advantage. Celtics got easy shot, after easy shot late. Drew just kept trapping, though.

I think offense is a bigger issue. Hawks seem to only score when they are running. Assuming there is no Josh tonight, that will be difficult to do. Their rebounding will be brutal. That alone will make it too hard to run.

This one will be ugly tonight. I just can’t wait for it to be over with.

Giving the Hawks less than a 0% chance of getting a win.

yoursporthousedotcom aka Sam from the Swats

May 4th, 2012
11:26 am

Zero Williams should be banned from the team bus. We have received absolutely nothing for a #2 draft pick.

doc

May 4th, 2012
11:46 am

i have a bad feeling that twin is going to be terribly exposed without josh on the court to provide help defense. doc is also gong to attack right at the weakest link and ld had better come up with a strategy quickly r move twin out of the game and find something else to fill that position. dampier has not been used at all and that has been a mistake as he is more mobile than twin. vlad is the next best big but like so many of the hawks he plays a lot smaller than he is as does our fav whipping boy marvin. ivan is the only guy besides josh and really teague that plays bigger than they are.

Michael Cunningham

May 4th, 2012
11:49 am

new blog posted. shutting down this thread.

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