Atlanta Hawks: Notes and quotes

  • Josh Smith was walking without a noticeable limp today. He plans to test his sprained left knee at shootaround tomorrow morning in Boston. “I haven’t done anything as far as running on it,” he said. “I will have to see how it feels tomorrow. At shootaround I will probably try to go a little bit harder than I normally do and see how it feels.”
  • Told that Larry Drew said the decision on whether to play is up to him, Josh said: “Oh, they are going to put the pressure on me like that? [He was smiling]. It’s OK. If it feels good, I’m going to go. I’m not one to harness injuries. I have a high threshold for pain. If I feel like I can go a little bit I’m going to step out on floor.”
  • Asked if he feels a sense of urgency to play in Game 3 because the Hawks are already thin with big men, Josh said: “I don’t want to put that much pressure on me. I understand how important this series is but it’s more than one game. I don’t want to go out there too early and risk getting injured more than I have.”
  • Dr. Alexis Colvin, an assistant professor of orthopaedic surgery at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, said patellar tendonitis develops through overuse. Colvin said that there can be risk of further injury because of weakness in the joint but that it’s possible for athletes to continue playing if they can tolerate the pain. “It is something you can potentially play with if the symptoms are not that bad,” she said.
  • Drew: “It’s strictly going to go on his call. I know Josh, he’s a warrior. If he feels like he can play, he wants to be out there. If he can’t go we don’t want him out there limping around and injuring the knee.”
  • During the portion of practice open to media, the starters were Jeff Teague, Kirk Hinrich, Joe Johnson, Tracy McGrady and Erick Dampier (who was felling in while Jason Collins rested his sore left Achilles).
  • My guess is if Josh can’t go, it would be Marvin Williams starting at power forward rather than McGrady, which I think could be a good idea (more on that later). Drew: “We go in looking at matchups. We will probably have to move Marvin to playing more four than normal. We will probably have to play T-Mac some there. We have to try to get as much production as we can knowing that guys are out of position.”
  • Zaza Pachulia offered the most detailed info yet on the left foot injury he suffered April 13. He said he suffered a bone chip in his left foot as well as a sprained left ankle and was told by a foot specialist that it would take 4-6 weeks of rehab. It will be three weeks tomorrow since the injury, so best-case scenario means a return for Game 6 Thursday if the series is extended.
  • Zaza said he’s tried to speed up the process but “you can’t outrun the timeline” for the injury: “It’s getting better. I haven’t tried to run or jump yet [because] the doctor hasn’t cleared me. When I walk it’s fine but as soon as I put pressure on it, it hurts.”
  • The Hawks have scored 90.5 points per 100 possessions in this series after posting a 92.2 mark in the three regular-season games against Boston. Consider that Charlotte had the least efficient offense during the regular season at 92.3 points per 100 possessions (a comparison that comes with a large vs. small sample size disclaimer). Clearly the Hawks have struggled to score all season against Boston but they were talking about defense a lot over the last couple days.
  • Drew: “We just had too many defensive breakdowns, which you just can’t have in the playoffs. The margin for error in the playoffs is just too slim and as the playoffs go on it becomes even slimmer. We had too many defensive breakdowns and it started with our transition defense. Boston is not a team not known to get out and run a lot but they ran us constantly. Gave up 11 fast-break points that first game and we counted 28, me and the staff, in [Game 2]. That’s way, way, way too many.”
  • According to Synergy Sports Technology, Boston used 10 transition possessions in Game 1 and scored 40 percent of the time for 0.9 points per possession. In Game 2, the Celtics used 18 transition possessions and scored 61 percent of the time for 1.22 points per possession.
  • That’s a big difference for two teams that played to a draw offensively during the regular season. It also hints that the Celtics decided they had to push the pace without Rajon Rondo. Drew: “Not taking anything way from them but they are just not known for being a running team. They must have saw something that fueled them to get out and run more. We have to combat that.”
  • Marvin: “They had a few fast-break points on us and that’s normally not like us to give up that many.” He’s right: The Hawks had the sixth-best defensive efficiency in transition during the regular season, allowing 1.12 points per possession.
  • How can the Hawks be better defending the break? “We have to do a better job with our defensive balance,” Marvin said. “A lot of times we would have two, three, four guys going to the offensive glass and just kind of hanging out in the paint area.”
  • Drew’s message for his players today focused on sharper execution during the the late third-, early-fourth periods. Boston has dialed up its defensive pressure in both games during that time. Drew told his players the Celtics especially pressured the wings and the elbow area, forcing catches farther away from the basket to disrupt the offense, and also said Boston loaded up when the Hawks kept the ball on one side of the floor.
  • Drew: “It was our inability to get into our sets. We allowed the pressure to take us out of what we wanted to do. You can’t allow that to happen, not in the playoffs. You’ve got to do things harder, do things with pace. We were too lethargic, too methodical.”
  • Collins: “We have to continue to get out on the break and get some easy baskets in transition and offensively we’ve got to continue to try to attack the basket and get to the free-throw line.”
  • Joe : “In the first two, three quarters we are probably at our best running and getting up down the floor. Then in that fourth, for whatever reason–fatigue maybe—we just get a little stagnant and our offense just doesn’t flow as much. That is something we will look at on tape and try to make adjustments, and I am sure we will do better.”
  • Yes, I know, blog people. Play faster, attack the basket, earn free-throws–you’ve heard all of this before.
  • Drew on whether he will stagger the rest periods for his starters to counter Doc Rivers riding Rondo, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett: “I want to make sure if I can get guys proper amount of rest. I do want to ride my starters but I don’t want to wear them out. It’s going to be a long series. I could probably stagger them a little bit more but I have to make sure I don’t wear guys down and run them in the ground. I have all the confidence in the world in my bench. They’ve been good for us all season and I’m not going to give up on them now.”
  • Marvin on the reserves: “It’s taken a couple of us a little while to get going. Sometimes we don’t really have a little while. We’ve got to make a conscious effort to get out there and get started a little sooner.”
  • Rondo says he will “try and not let my emotions get the best of me” in return from suspension.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

145 comments Add your comment

iVar

May 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm

iVar

May 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm

HAWKZ FOR DA WIN SONNY!!!!

doc

May 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm

good stuff mc.

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm

Can a player be waived during the playoffs? I nominate Zero as number 2 pick please.

terrell

May 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm

There’s that word “matchups” again. smmfgdh

terrell

May 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm

And starting Marvin is NEVER a good thing. Please!

Section 303

May 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm

Marvin should have also mentioned that things would be a lot better with him NOT on the floor.

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm

Zero is the worst player in NBA history!!

tom

May 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm

two chances two get a road win starting tomorrow. go hawks

terrell

May 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm

Why are you talking to Marvin? What in the heck does he know about execution? Poor excuse of a basketball player if I’ve ever seen one.

JJ

May 3rd, 2012
5:11 pm

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:12 pm

It sure is still crazy how the vibe of this blog has changed. I remember when I would have to argue guys down how sorry Zero was, now I can’t find anybody that likes him. LOL…

Westurd

May 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm

I seriously cannot read another word muttered by the Hawks and coach. I love these guys, they are my team, but seriously I feel like I am in an insane asylum when I hear the same thing over and over and over and over and over……Game 2 hurt bad then the worst break up I have ever been through. With a break up you only feel the heart ache once or twice………these Hawks have been breaking my heart year in and year out. I’m now even more annoyed haven’t spent another second of my time talking Hawks. I am now sick. Good Day.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm

Boston’s points per 100 in this series are 86 in Game 1 and 95 in Game 2. They are not scoring very efficiently either. The Hawks are defending fine, although I think they could rebound a little better. The problem is on offense, and LD is right about the problems getting into their sets. Hard to do that when the point guards (all of them) take too long to get rid of the ball and the Celtics defenders push Joe and Josh farther away from the hoop than they would like.

Rod from College Park

May 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm

Why are we hearing from Marvin? Can we hear from somebody who actually matters in the series?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm

Of course, “defending fine” is with Josh on the floor. Without him, the Hawks are screwed.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

We will probably HAVE to play TMac some more?

GTFOH
Fire LD

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Cosign Rod. Owned NC on last blog

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Also, I am sure Dept. of Unintended Irony appreciates the unintended irony in the slowest, most unathletic player on the team talking about wanting to get out on the break more.

Greg Carter

May 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Sorry guys, but this series is OVER. Every offense starts and ends with a true PG. Jeff Teague is an amazing talent and can certainly blossom into an elite PG next year, but as of right now he’s on the Ramon Sessions-Ricky Rubio-Russell Westbrook level. A PG that isn’t a floor general. We have the best all around PG in the game in Rajon Rondo who is just itching to get another shot at you guys. We have the best defense in the league and therefore we will limit you in scoring. Let’s not even mention the fact that you don’t have an answer defensively for Ray Allen. Avery Bradley and Rondo are the best back court in the NBA defensively and are explosive. Paul Pierce will have another chance at Tebowing at the end of the game. C’s in 5.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2012
5:25 pm

“as of right now he’s on the Ramon Sessions-Ricky Rubio-Russell Westbrook level.”

I can’t think of three point guards whose games are more different. It’s like saying “that red-green-blue color”.

Greg Carter

May 3rd, 2012
5:27 pm

“I can’t think of three point guards whose games are more different. It’s like saying “that red-green-blue color”.

Okay. Substitute Sessions and Rubio for Brandon Jennings and Derrick Rose. Either way you understand what I mean.

SteveW

May 3rd, 2012
5:41 pm

Larry said of our bench, “I have all the confidence in the world in my bench.” That’s what he kept saying about Teague last season, and then not playing him.

The kiss of death for our bench.

yoursporthousedotcom

May 3rd, 2012
5:42 pm

You mean Teague is not a facilitator, he’s more of a scorer. Back to Zero, how many of you will actually now admit that you were standing up for Marvin at one point?

yoursporthousedotcom aka Sam from the Swats

May 3rd, 2012
5:43 pm

Waive Zero!!

SteveW

May 3rd, 2012
5:45 pm

If Jeff Teague is on a Rubio/Westbrook level, then a Jennings/DRose level – where, when? I want that guy.

Jeff Teague is good. Very good. But he’s not quite ready for prime time yet. But he’s getting there.

But no way is he on a Westbrook/Jennings/DRose or even Rubio level. He’ll be a fine player in this League. But he may never average the points or assists some of those guys do. Pts. with Westbrook, Rose and Jennings, and the assists of Rubio.

Nanny

May 3rd, 2012
5:46 pm

Yeah, Greg Carter, that was an absurd analogy. Rubio is the definition of floor general. Sessions is probably the closest thing to Teague. Westbrook is in a whole different category as a scoring pg with freakish athleticism.

I agree with all of those asking why Marvin is quoted so much. Did he have anything to say about his individually horrific play thus far? They better amnesty his ass.

Greg Carter

May 3rd, 2012
5:52 pm

At all those who dismissed my analogy: Is it absurd? At no point did I ever say that Teague scores as well or as efficiently as DRose or Westbrook or Jennings, but that’s the style of PG that he is. He’s not a facilitator, he does’nt make his teamates better. If Rondo played for the Hawks, you guys would have a dynasty on your hands. Like I said, I retract my Rubio and Sessions analogy. That wasn’t an accurate picture of my analogy, I agree. But Teague is good yes, just not enough for the Hawks to beat us.

High-sider

May 3rd, 2012
5:54 pm

Repost FTPB with minor changes

High-sider
May 3rd, 2012
3:28 pm

“Rod, it’s not about the total points, it’s WHEN you need to get stops.

If you’ve held a team to 60 points going into the 4th quarter, you have to maintain enough defensive intensity to NOT let them break 80. You just can’t all of a sudden give up 25 points in the 4th quarter. That’s when your defense needs to be at its toughest.

The guys that you covet like Nick Young and Jamal Crawford, are not added to great teams for a reason. They’re not added because their games are too one-dimensional. And they’re too streaky of shooters.

But that’s what YOU like. Those streaky shooters who if they’re shot is not on, can shoot you right out of the game . . and make things worse because they’re not stopping anybody.” – northcyde

This is coming from a guy [northcyde] that a few days/weeks ago gave Marvin Williams a rating/grade [of] 81/”B-” for his [Marvin Williams'] regular season performance. Are you [bloggers] truly going to continue to listen to him [northcyde] and ask for his “basketball” advice like he’s some sort of expert NBA analyst or basketball “guru”? I can see/read it now. Just like Mike Fratello is/was called the “czar of the telestrator,” you [bloggers] will be calling northcyde the “czar of the AJC Hawks Blog.” [smh]

northcyde does make some good points from time to time but he [northcyde] is to the “AJC Hawks Blog” what Skip Bayless is to “ESPN First Take” – pure sensationalism and shock value.

So, northcyde, I guess Mike Bibby is better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young since Mike Bibby was acquired and played for the Miami Heat last year; the Heat [team] was a title contender last postseason and is a title contender this postseason.

So, I guess Boris Diaw and Stephen Jackson are infinitely better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young since both Diaw and Jackson were acquired by the Spurs via midseason trade[s] during this past regular season. The Spurs [team] is a title contender this postseason.

So, I guess Derek Fisher, at this stage in his career, is infinitely better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young because Derek Fisher was acquired by the OKC Thunder during this past regular season. The OKC Thunder is a title contender this postseason.

So, I guess Ramon Sessions is infinitely better than Jamal Crawford and Nick Young because Ramon Sessions was acquired by the LA Lakers during this past regular season. The LA Lakers [team is a title contender this postseason; let’s just forget about the fact that the LA Clippers [team] sees itself as a title contender this postseason [sarcasm].

So, I guess Gilbert Arenas, at this stage in his career, is infinitely better than Crawford and Young since Gilbert Arenas was acquired by the Memphis Grizzlies this regular season. The Memphis Grizzlies [team] is considered [by many NBA experts] a very dangerous playoff opponent and a “dark horse” to win the Western Conference crown. The Memphis Grizzlies [team] sees itself as a title contender this postseason.

So, finally, I guess Mike Bibby, Boris Diaw, Stephen Jackson, Derek Fisher, Ramon Sessions and Gilbert Arenas are all better than Monta Ellis because Monta Ellis has yet to be acquired by a title contender thus far in his [Monta Ellis'] career. Monta Ellis was traded to the Bucks this past regular season.

Midseason trades or trades, in general, are based/determined/executed on teams’ needs, players’ contract value[s], teams’ salary cap structure[s], players’ fit on [the] teams, players’ attitudes, timing, availability, injuries to key players, etc.

DREABABY

May 3rd, 2012
6:24 pm

Lol at Greg for saying the Hawks don’t have an answer for Ray Allen.He is a great shooter,that’s about it.They don’t have an answer for Rondo though.

doc

May 3rd, 2012
6:26 pm

good to hear josh is not be restricted in his movement. seems the diagnosis of a sprain was a bit over the top.

DREABABY

May 3rd, 2012
6:28 pm

@ Doc,Josh will play,he has heart,a knuckle head with a lot of heart.

prison mike

May 3rd, 2012
6:37 pm

Whoever thinks MW is a player in this league can’t admit mistakes and doesn’t look long enough at the mirror ie NC.

He’s such a waste of cap space, space in general. Sund totally dropped the ball on this signing but BK planted the seed with that fatal draft day.

High-sider

May 3rd, 2012
6:41 pm

“sautee, let me put it another way. i looked down at what ld had on the court vs what doc had placed out there and thought then politely said we aint got nothing in there. the response form eva, having seen fewer than 25 games of basketball in her life was, yes, we need 2 and 5 out there quick. we didnt say starters or finishers but said ld has left us crippled in essence. everyone saw it except the guy who counted, ld.” – doc, May 3rd, 2012, @ 2:48 pm

What we [Hawks' fans] need is 11 – Jamal Crawford!!!!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
6:51 pm

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm

Guess LD really does hate TMac. Talks about HAVING to play him more, whereas Marvin has done nothing in this series

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
7:01 pm

Marvin said Boston did what they had to do after game 2 and there is no reason to be upset.

Are u f’ing serious dude?????

Got people on here who want to tank game 3 LOL

And LD claims it will be a long series. ROFL not with the way u are coaching.

Lastly, he has cost us the last 3 game 2s. ORL CHI and now BOS

^^^Food 4 thought

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
7:02 pm

If Marvin was on a 12 player WNBA roster, he would be the 13th best on the team

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
7:07 pm

MsDee

May 3rd, 2012
7:54 pm

If yall watching the Heat/Knicks game right now, I like how they are attacking the lane and drawing fouls. This is how u beat a slow and aging team like Boston.

O'brien

May 3rd, 2012
8:06 pm

MC,

I am disappointed in you. No comments from T-Mac?

O'brien

May 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm

But yet plenty of comments from Marvin SMH.

Bob rathbun was on the radio yesterday (either 680 or 790). He said the guys we need to step up tomorrow are 1) JJ and 2) Marvin.

I have doubts about both

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:11 pm

draft Targets to replace Marvin…

Jeffrey Taylor, Moe Harkless, Terrence Ross, Quincy Miller.

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:17 pm

Larry Drew is not that bright. AS long as KG, Pierce and Rondo are on the court then Joe Johnson, TEague and Smith should be on the court.

That’s a no brainer. These guys are young they can play a whole game with TV timeouts and all that stuff.

Section 303

May 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm

yodaddybrother, I would add ‘bag of balls’ to your list.

DamnIt

May 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

I wish Al’s sorry ass would try and do something beside hump miss camel toe.

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:33 pm

Maybe the Hawks band together like the Celtics did and grind it out????

NAH…..same ol Hawks….double digit loss guaranteed

yodaddybrother

May 3rd, 2012
8:37 pm

Never feel bad for Al Horford….he has Amelia Vega Horford

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

May 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm

Yeah. Not one comment from TMac. WTH

Joe : “In the first two, three quarters we are probably at our best running and getting up down the floor. Then in that fourth, for whatever reason–fatigue maybe—we just get a little stagnant and our offense just doesn’t flow as much. That is something we will look at on tape and try to make adjustments, and I am sure we will do better.”

LOL

It is 80% Joe’s fault

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2012
8:43 pm

So Marvin said don’t get upset.. So I will not get upset…

Hey Marvin, thank you for being so level headed dude! You sound like you’ll make a fine HC like your buddy Larry! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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