Celtics at Atlanta Hawks Game 2: Celtics 87, Hawks 80
- Larry Drew was asked if he had any regrets about not coming back with his starters earlier when the game got away from the Hawks in the fourth quarter. But his answer reveals he thought he was being scrutinized for bringing them back too soon.
- “I would have done the exact same thing,” he said. “I thought it was important to hold onto momentum and not allow them to get it. I tried to rest my guys as long as I could to give them a blow but I didn’t want the game to get away from us from a momentum standpoint. So I made the decision to try to bring them back and try to regain momentum. I will stick with that decision.”
- It turned out Josh Smith’s injury overshadowed Drew’s curious decision to not always have Joe Johnson and Josh on the floor with Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. Smith suffered what the team said is a sprained left knee, apparently when he landed after a missed layup attempt with 5:14 to play, and appeared to later aggravate it while trying to block out Garnett for a rebound.
- Josh walked to the locker room under his own power and a team spokesman said he left the arena the same way. The Hawks said Josh will be re-evaluated tomorrow.
- Without Josh, Atlanta’s stagnating offense lost one of its best options at a critical time. Josh had scored 16 points on 21 shots up until that point while favoring jump shots and failing to get to the free-throw line. But the Hawks could have used some of his post-ups. He had a nice driving score and missed a clean look on a hook shot just before his injury.
- “He’s a guy we go to down the stretch from a post-up standpoint,” Drew said. “His energy going down to the end of a game and all the things he brings to the table, we were minus it. It certainly did have an impact on the last four minutes of the game. We tried to play small to match up and try to open up the floor a little bit but we didn’t have that low-post presence.”
- While Drew focused on resting his starters, Doc Rivers rode Pierce for the entire second half. Pierce made him look smart by delivering 20 points on 12 shots and nine rebounds after halftime (offsetting five ragged turnovers). “I wanted to give Paul a rest early in the fourth quarter but I just couldn’t with the way the game was going,” Rivers said.
- The weird thing about Drew’s approach is that he tried to manage his starters’ minutes late in the regular season. I thought that was because he could ride them in the playoffs.
- Watching Pierce and Joe Johnson in the second half reminded me of the story I wrote during last year’s Finals about nearly all NBA contenders have had first- or second-team All-NBA talent :” [J]ust 15 of 122 teams to make the finals — 12 percent — did so without a player considered among the league’s 10 best. That trend will continue this postseason: Miami’s LeBron James was named first-team All-NBA and teammate Dwyane Wade and Dallas forward Dirk Nowitzki were voted to the second team.”
- And so there was Pierce outscoring the Hawks 16-10 as Boston turned a 65-54 deficit to am 81-75 lead. And there was Joe missing 7 of 10 shots after halftime, throwing the ball away twice at winning time (bailed out by a Pierce double dribble once), clanking a free throw with the Hawks down 81-77 and getting his driving shot blocked by KG.
- Joe stayed away from the iso’s for the most part and made some spot-up Js but he looked pretty passive for much of the night. Now I wonder if his response to the poor finish will be to try to take over in Game 3. The Hawks should hope not because Boston’s defense is just too good for him to still get his when he plays that way.
- The Celtics crowd Joe, bump him, swipe at the ball, clog the lane when he makes his move and generally don’t allow him to get comfortable. Joe just hasn’t shown he can overcome that kind of pressure to score at winning time in the playoffs.
- In the fourth quarter the Hawks scored 14 points on 19 shots, had five turnovers and recorded one assist on four field goals. All but four of those 14 attempts were in the paint with Jeff Teague’s missed 3-pointer the only desperation attempt.
- “In the fourth quarter they pushed us out of our sweet spots,” Drew said. “We couldn’t even initiate our offense the way we were supposed to. We just didn’t handle the pressure very well.”
- “I think it’s a combination of us allowing those guys to take us out of our offense by denying, pressing up and being physical,” Willie Green said. “That and then us not getting us into our plays quicker. I think we’ve got to put pressure on those guys when we get the rebound to get into our plays right away.”
- Kirk Hinrich was very good offensively in the first half (eight points on four shots), not so much after halftime–but who was for the Hawks? He worked hard on defense, where he has a knack for using his strength, positioning and relentlessness to be effective. He’s showed up in the playoffs.
- Teague had some big moments until he was 0 for 4 in 10 fourth-quarter minutes.
- Jason Collins played 22 minutes. He was plus-three but managed just two points and three rebounds and had two turnovers. The Celtics got him on the move more often this time.
- Ivan Johnson had a brutal offensive game (six points on seven shots, two turnovers in 20 minutes). It’s not the best idea for him to shoot jumpers or try to attack KG but give Ivan some credit for trying to make something happen as Atlanta’s offense halted.
- Marvin Williams was a team-worst -13 in 21 minutes and this was one of those times when that stat wasn’t misleading. Marvin wasn’t good defensively, couldn’t shake free to score. His six rebounds were the only highlight.
- Apparently all it took to make Tracy McGrady sour again was a quick hook in the second quarter. He didn’t look pleased while slowly walking to the bench. He had three points on zero shots, a turnover and a nifty blocked shot of Garnett at the time but can’t blame Drew for bringing Joe back in once Rivers summoned Pierce off the bench.
- Give the Celtics credit for winning this game, especially Pierce. If there was any doubt after Game 1, it’s clear now the Hawks are going to have to take this series from Boston. “This is a tough-minded basketball team and having a lot of veterans on your team helps with that,” Rivers said. “The only way we were going to win a game like that without Ray [Allen] and Rondo was if Paul had a game like this.”
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Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:25 am
If someone had never seen a Hawks game until this series, they would come away with the impression that Marvin Williams is the worst player on this team. It says a lot about Marvin that Collins subbed in for him and the team got better.
I haven’t read all 700+ comments, but I hope there are plenty of comments wondering what the hell LD was doing with his player substitutions. He blew the lead in the 2nd half, and Josh’s injury was the icing on the cake that precluded any sort of comeback.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:27 am
Marvin played instead of Ivan for the first 5 or 6 minutes of the 4th quarter for absolutely no apparent reason. Other than one nice box-out, I can’t think of a single good thing Marvin did today. They might have been better off giving his minutes to Vlad. He was abhorrent on offense and abysmal on D. It is sad that he can be on the floor with 4 other bench players, going up against Boston’s bench, and still can’t contribute.
Rob
May 2nd, 2012
12:28 am
Najeh,yeah there were plenty of comments about Larry Drews substitutions, and why Marvin looked scared every time he touched the ball
Mac-Town (478)™
May 2nd, 2012
12:29 am
“I think it’s a combination of us allowing those guys to take us out of our offense by denying, pressing up and being physical,” Willie Green said
Translation: “We’re soft,” Willie Green said
Rob
May 2nd, 2012
12:30 am
Were you at the game @ Najeh? If so what was the ratio of Hawks to Celtic fans? John Hollinger was clowin that the arena always plays music to pump up volume
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
12:30 am
Huge loss, and Josh is hurt..
The streak will continue:
45 and counting….
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:31 am
Ivan needs to take it upon himself to knock Paul Pierce out for this sh-t.
Mac-Town (478)™
May 2nd, 2012
12:32 am
Here we are in the playoffs again, with basically the same main core, still talking about the lack of “mental and physical toughness”
Smh
tom
May 2nd, 2012
12:32 am
wasn’t this the first celtics road playoff win in atlanta in over 20 years?
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
12:32 am
Larry may well be the worst coach in these playoffs this year…
Stan V Gundy> Larry Drew
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
12:33 am
I’ll ask again; does anybody miss Jamal Crawford?
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:33 am
“Were you at the game @ Najeh? If so what was the ratio of Hawks to Celtic fans? John Hollinger was clowin that the arena always plays music to pump up volume”
John Hollinger is a clown. It was a really late-arriving crowd even by Hawks standards, but it filled in by the start of the 2nd quarter, and it was more pro-Hawks than the Game 1 crowd (at least it seemed that way to me). The crowd got louder in the 4th quarter than it ever did in Game 1, at least until it became obvious that the Hawks weren’t going to come back.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:35 am
I’m going to go ahead and say it: Josh catch-and-shoot jumpers > iso-Joe. Sad but true that Josh jumpers are one of the Hawks’ best offensive options in crunch time.
tom
May 2nd, 2012
12:35 am
the hawks had a good crowd to support them tonight…better than game 1…they blew it bigtime.
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
12:36 am
JC1 and JC2 are missed….lol
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:36 am
“And so there was Pierce outscoring the Hawks 16-10 as Boston turned a 65-54 deficit to am 81-75 lead. And there was Joe missing 7 of 10 shots after halftime, throwing the ball away twice at winning time (bailed out by a Pierce double dribble once), clanking a free throw with the Hawks down 81-77 and getting his driving shot blocked by KG.”
Pierce thoroughly outplayed Joe on both ends. I thought Joe took some undeserved heat for his D in Game 1, which was mostly good. In this game, though, his D was bad and his O cooled off after his hot start.
Mike D
May 2nd, 2012
12:38 am
MC wit all due respect get off JJ piece Tracy was playing well an LD always talks about stickin wit the guys in a rhythmn then why is it a double standard when it comes to Mcgrady. Look MC he been sitting Tracy all yr. saying that the Hawks will need him down the stretch. Here is the stretch an ya need him so whts the problem now oh yea I forget about LD an his favortism an the lack of common sense which no Coach on LD coaching staff has
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
12:38 am
northcyde is [in] hiding.
Rob
May 2nd, 2012
12:38 am
Teague was ballin in the first half, the NBA TV announcers were fair and they mentioned for Teague to take the next step his drives to the basket have to result in assist, well duh we all know that. The 4th quarter meltdown was a combination of Celtic Defense, horrific coaching, and horrific offensive possessions, not to mention Josh going down and Joe trying to be hero to no avail.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
May 2nd, 2012
12:39 am
Josh cat post up n kg for nothing josh always catches the ball near the 3 point and then he tries to drive the ball but fails while on the other end kg post josh up by the rim literally everytime…I have to give props to teague he has been playing well enough in the playoffs too bad people like joe johnson cant contribute to the team and as for marvin well we are used to that already cant really complain
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:40 am
“Apparently all it took to make Tracy McGrady sour again was a quick hook in the second quarter. He didn’t look pleased while slowly walking to the bench. He had three points on zero shots, a turnover and a nifty blocked shot of Garnett at the time but can’t blame Drew for bringing Joe back in once Rivers summoned Pierce off the bench.”
The quick hook in the first half is fine. Not using him at all in the 2nd half, playing Willie Green and Marvin more minutes than him, is mind-bogglingly stupid. I don’t understand LD’s infatuation with Green. If you are not running plays to get Green shots, he gives you nothing. Why is he on the floor so much? Why does he play in 3 guard lineups with Teague and Kirk when Pierce is in the game at SF?
LD lost Game 2 of last year’s first round series by doing incredibly dumb sh-t. Let’s hope this series ends the same way.
LT
May 2nd, 2012
12:41 am
*sigh* dont know how things would have been different but I think Tegue, Josh or Joe need tlo be in at all times… LD need to get it together, especially if nothing is going offensively. Anyways,
GO HAWKS!!!
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
12:41 am
Paul Pierce is so underrated! What a baller he is..He steps up in the big games..Time and again!
The ISO guy not so much…
Rod from College Park
May 2nd, 2012
12:42 am
Oh so now many are understanding why I bash Marvin all the time (SMH). Guy looked like he was petrified every time he touched the ball. The guy is truly one of the worst basketball players in the league.
I have also been preaching all year that this team was built for the regular season, and not the playoffs. Over two games we are averaging 81.5 ppg , and giving up 80.5 ppg, so defense is not the problem, its offense. Joe and Marvin are stinking up the joint, and Josh and Teague are balling. Where are the great Willie Green, and Pargo. I stated that playoff basketball was totally different, and we see why. We have no true scorers. My original prediction may be right. Boston in 5. I hope not.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:42 am
Teague-Joe-TMac-Josh-Ivan should have been the lineup on the floor from the 10 minute mark of the 4th quarter until the end of the game (or until Josh got injured). That really should be the game-finishing lineup for the rest of this series (assuming Josh can play) until Zaza gets back.
If Josh can’t play, all this discussion is pointless, because the Hawks are going to get waxed without him.
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
12:42 am
Wiith no JC1 [Jamal Crawford] and no JC2 [Jordan Crawford], the Hawks are left to depend on -JC100,000 [or minus JC100,000] aka Jason Collins. [smh]
Rod from College Park
May 2nd, 2012
12:43 am
Does anybody realize we just lost to the Celtics at home with no Ray Allen, and no Rondo. SMH
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:43 am
And John Hollinger is right about one thing: LD’s habit of playing five bench players together is fine for the regular season, but it is killing the Hawks in the playoffs. He has to pick three bench players (my pick would be Pargo, TMac, and Ivan) and mix them in to the rotation, while giving any and all other bench players spot minutes only.
Nanny
May 2nd, 2012
12:45 am
Mc did anyone bother to ask drew why Marvin played 5 times as many minutes as tmac? What did he do or what was he doing to earn that?
Also, why no quotes from joe or Marvin?
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:48 am
The highlights of the night:
-Teague splitting the D and going in for the slam
-The dime piece who sat right in front of me the whole game (great view)
-After the game, when the Celtics fans tried to start up a “Let’s go Celtics” chant in the concourse, they got drowned out by an “A-T-L” chant
Speaking of the “Let’s go Celtics” chant, the organist must be mentally retarded. Every time he plays “doo-doo-doo-doo clap-clap-clapclapclap” the Celtics fans try to start the “Let’s Go Celtics” chant. You can’t play that sh-t when your team name only has one syllable, dumbass.
Rod from College Park
May 2nd, 2012
12:48 am
“The quick hook in the first half is fine. Not using him at all in the 2nd half, playing Willie Green and Marvin more minutes than him, is mind-bogglingly stupid. I don’t understand LD’s infatuation with Green. If you are not running plays to get Green shots, he gives you nothing. Why is he on the floor so much? Why does he play in 3 guard lineups with Teague and Kirk when Pierce is in the game at SF?”
It truly makes no common sense. I could understand if Marvin was playing decent defense, and rebounding, but he is doing absolutely nothing. TMac should always be out there in the 4th.
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
12:49 am
Repost FTPB [with minor changes]
High-sider
May 1st, 2012
10:38 pm
The Hawks bench score a total of 14 points in Game 2 vs. the Celtics. With the Celtics’ depleted roster and backcourt, Jamal Crawford could [easily] average 18-20+ppg as a reserve [player] or starter for the Hawks. This loss is on Rick Sund and the ASG for the dumb player personnel decisions made before this year’s regular season, most notably, not re-signing Jamal Crawford. Also, if the Hawks lose this [playoff] series, this [playoff series] loss will be on Rick Sund and the ASG.
Kirk Hinrich, I believe, scored 8 [eight] points in the first half and 0 [zero] points in the second half.
Marvin Williams, once again, comes up “a day late and a dollar short.”
Marvin Williams’ stat line for tonight – 3pts, 6rebs, 0asts and 1blksht in 21:02 [of playing time].
And some [idiot] blogger[s] thought Rick Sund deserves/deserved consideration for Executive of the Year.
Examples of some dumb ass Rick Sund and ASG personnel moves/decisions:
1. Didn’t re-sign Jamal Crawford
2. Re-signed/Retained Jason Collins
3. Signed Vladimir Radmanovic
4. Didn’t do whatever it took to get rid of Marvin Williams
5. Decided to go with Kirk Hinrich over Jamal Crawford
6. Didn’t properly address the lack of depth and size at the Center position; didn’t sign a quality backup center
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:50 am
Tyson Chandler won the DPOY award. Playing in a big market has its benefits.
Nanny
May 2nd, 2012
12:51 am
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Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:52 am
Bench: 4/18, 1 assist, 3 turnovers
Nanny
May 2nd, 2012
12:53 am
The only positive I can take from
This is that perhaps we amnesty Marvin after a new coach/gm tandem is hired. That may be the bed case scenario at this point as there is no way in hell we are winning in Boston.
Buddy Grizzard
May 2nd, 2012
12:55 am
http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2012/05/initial-feedback-lets-talk-about.html
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
12:55 am
In Game 2 vs. the Celtics tonight, the Hawks scored 44 points in the first half and 36 points in the second half; [the lack of] scoring is a problem.
“Houston, we have a problem. Scratch that; Atlanta, we have a problem and the problem is scoring.” – High-sider
Buddy Grizzard
May 2nd, 2012
1:00 am
Check out where Willie Green ranks in +/- for the Hawks:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22011&split=9&team=Hawks
You can totally see why Drew goes with Willie in the 4th and not T-Mac.
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
1:02 am
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
12:50 am
Tyson Chandler won the DPOY award. Playing in a big market has its benefits.
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Serge Ibaka should have won that [DPOY] award this year; “Air Congo” [Ibaka] got robbed. [smh]
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
May 2nd, 2012
1:03 am
I dont think I can take another season of marvin in a hawks uni…
Rev in Tampa
May 2nd, 2012
1:05 am
I believe northcyde drove to the game from TN. That’s why he’s not blogging.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
May 2nd, 2012
1:05 am
why should ibaka have won its not defense blocker of the year
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
1:11 am
“Serge Ibaka should have won that [DPOY] award this year; “Air Congo” [Ibaka] got robbed. [smh]”
Josh deserved it over both of them in my opinion. Ibaka is a nice shot blocker but he doesn’t have the overall defensive impact that either Chandler or Josh do, and while Chandler is a really good position defender he doesn’t make the game-changing plays Josh makes.
Look where Josh ranks on pretty much every defensive stat. Only player in the top 20 in steals and blocks. Top 20 in rebounds per game, defensive rebound percentage, total rebound percentage, and block percentage. 5th in defensive rating. 1st in defensive win shares.
hawkfan
May 2nd, 2012
1:13 am
umm when does atlanta dream season start…
EmirS.
May 2nd, 2012
1:14 am
I missed the game due to work. However from just the Box Score and NBA.com highlights of the game I was able to take this away from it all:
1. Pierce stepped up in Atlanta, Joe needs to step up in Boston.
2. Teague is showing CONFIDENCE! This is wonderful, you can only hope and pray it translates into Game 3.
3. From the box score it seems obvious the Hawks had yet another 4th quarter meltdown. That being said, I also realize this is where Josh got injured. Now the question on my mind is….with Josh still playing do we come back to retake the lead and get the win? Can it be fair to say that our best player is definetley Josh and not Joe?
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
1:15 am
“I believe northcyde drove to the game from TN. That’s why he’s not blogging.”
Damn. That is going to be a long and sh-tty drive back.
EmirS.
May 2nd, 2012
1:17 am
…continued
4. Are we all in agreement that if Josh is injured and can’t play or is limited to playing time, we can call this series a wrap up?
There seems to be so many factors and questions now. We NEED to win Game 3 in Boston. And Joe HAS to be the one on fire. With Rondo coming back and the momentum already in full swing in Bostons favor, we have no choice but to take at least 1 game in Boston. Boston has proven they can beat us at home, we need to return the favor.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
1:19 am
“2. Teague is showing CONFIDENCE! This is wonderful, you can only hope and pray it translates into Game 3.”
Confidence is nice, but the next step is to learn how to finish at the rim better. Some of the shots he took in the 4th quarter weren’t even close. I’d still rather he miss shots near the rim than Joe or Josh miss shots from 20+ feet away, but those misses from in close are a lot more beneficial when Zaza is around to grab offensive boards.
“with Josh still playing do we come back to retake the lead and get the win? ”
I don’t know if they would have got the offense working again, but pretty much immediately after Josh left, Boston scored 5 quick points and stretched the lead from a manageable 2 to what seemed like an insurmountable 7. I don’t think they get 5 points that easily if Josh is around. Don’t know if that would have been enough to swing the game, but I think the Hawks would have at least had a chance to tie or win at the end of the game.
“Can it be fair to say that our best player is definetley Josh and not Joe?”
It’s been fair to say that since the beginning of this season.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 2nd, 2012
1:19 am
“Are we all in agreement that if Josh is injured and can’t play or is limited to playing time, we can call this series a wrap up?”
Unless Al Horford and Zaza both have Willis Reed moments, yes. And even if they do, it might not be enough. Josh is too important to this team.
SOULLRENAISSANCE
May 2nd, 2012
1:20 am
F U ISO
Big Ray
May 2nd, 2012
1:20 am
Josh continues to not get near enough credit. If he can’t go at somwhere near 90%….the Hawks will be watching this series go sideways real quick.
Joe can’t be counted on to show up, and when he does, he gets outplayed by a wide margin. The only player less worth the money right now is Amare Stoudamire….
Teague continues to make Woody and Drew look stupid for not playing him earlier.
Speaking of Woody….hilarity going on with the Knicks. Woody never could coach that much offensive talent (and we have always had less than the Knicks do now), and he still can’t get offensive minded players to play defense together.
Karma…the circle never stops.
tyger
May 2nd, 2012
1:28 am
Horribly coached 2nd half…
No bigger LD fan than me, but I lay this one in his lap…
Up 13 in the 3Q, he ran the starters ragged…
They were literally walking up the court…
Yet, his creativity only extended to Marvin and Green…
And neither clearly had it…TMac is right to be upset…
I’m upset…Hawk Nation is upset..
.
We couldnt score a bucket, couldnt do anything right…
And he sits TMac???? That was just dumb…
And if he lets whatever’s going on between him and TMac…
Cost us this series, then he’s just ignorant and needs to go…
He’s acting like he’s JSmoove and JJs beotch…
They start the game off like they were in Summer league…
Smoove shouldve gotten a quick hook early…
JJ missed a layup like he was scared…
Yet, LD so far up their collective as that he does nada…
Smoove jacks up long jumper after long jumper 8-21….
Think LD had balls to say a word to him…
JJ too timid to lead, yet LD forcing his BS down our throat…
Marvin has nothing, yet TMac and Pargo sit…
TMac and Pargo have been saving our as all year…
Now, in the biggest game of the year, neither see light of day…
While the starters drag as up/down the floor…
TMac had them on their heels and gets pulled…thats BS!!!
Why did you sign Tmac if you’re not going to use him?
This issh is old and stupid…this was a horribly coached game…
You really think Ivan, Marvin and Willie Green going to beat Celtics?
Get the F outta here!!! C’mon man!!!
Man in Black
May 2nd, 2012
1:32 am
We missed 4 Free Throws, Josh missed a dunk by getting too fancy, Teague missed a point blank layup – those would have won the game for us.
Marvin Williams still looks like a rookie – when he plays 15 minutes or more we lose 90% of the time – use T-Mac in place of him for rest of playoffs –
Now the Smith haters can see what this team looks like without him – horrible.
But 80 points? 14 in the 4th? At home? – thats bad.
We just need to win 1 game out of 3 in Boston to take this series – how many years must we get beat by Boston in the playoffs before a Hawks team gets fired up about playing them?
Lil Fawkers
May 2nd, 2012
1:37 am
Cmon Celtics! Do your thang and let us start making changes around here finally. Even if Hawks go to round two they will fail. Don’t kid yourself.
Phil
May 2nd, 2012
1:39 am
I really don’t understand LD. does he have something against t-Mac? if he did, then why did the hawks sign him from the first place? t-mac was playing stellar defence on pierce, and in the 4thQ, you’re going with a small lineup, and an undersized hinrich and green are guarding pierce (no wonder he got hot), the dumbest thing I’ve seen. This guy is the most experienced player of all the roster, this is an insult to him, the guy can score at will, but unfortunately LD isnt drawing up plays for him, I feel bad for t-Mac
CamiloAtlanta
May 2nd, 2012
1:46 am
This is why Rivers gets the big bucks. What more can you ask from a blue-light special? Looks like the Celtics in the finals. The dream was good while it lasted. But in the end it’s the same old Hawks.
@pcnitai
May 2nd, 2012
1:51 am
T-Mac should be playing more than Marvin! You don’t even notice that Marvin is on the court cause he doesn’t do anything! Also Pargo and Green needs to get going cause our second unit sucks right now!
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
1:51 am
@Najeh Davenpoop
In response to your post @1:11am, I will agree [that] you [can] make a strong case for Josh Smith to be named DPOY for this [past] regular season.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
1:56 am
LOL @ all of my “fans” concerned about my wherabouts.
1) Northcyde works evenings/nights
2) For some reason, I haven’t been able to post from my phone for the last 3 weeks, unless I’m on a wi-fi connection. Why? I don’t know. If the IT people at the AJC have blocked my IP coming from my phone, I wish they would un-block it.
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NOW
@ high-sider/Jeje. . . WTF would I be hiding for? Marvin is having an absolutely horrible series and definitely deserves to be called out for it. Why would I defend a guy whose playing like garbage? I defended him when he was giving us positive contributions off the bench. Dude needs to step it up . . . period
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As for the game, definitely a blown opportunity . . but nowhere near the end of the world, like some of you would want to believe.
The fact is that it took Paul Pierce having one of the best playoff games ( quarters ) of his life, to beat us.
It’s obvious that we missed Josh Smith’s potential to score AND pass the basketball, coming down the stretch of that game. Joe played a decent game, but couldn’t match Pierce’s SUPERSTAR game in the 4th quarter.
What separates JJ from the rest of the superstars in the league, is his ability to get to the FT line. In a game like tonight, with guys hounding him, he simply needed to get the ball and GO run into somebody . . or try to draw a foul off a jumpshot.
Some of you forget that this IS the #1 defensive team in the league. Points are going to come at a premium. So if your shot is not falling, you must do anything you can to get to the FT line. But getting to the line isn’t part of JJ’s game, and that’s why he’ll tend to have a good game . . and not a superstar game. Superstar games come from him ONLY if his 3 ball is falling.
Bad loss without Rondo and Allen in the lineup. Hawks simply need to get it back, which they are capable of doing. Boston played like a desperate team in that 4th quarter, and they got it done. Now the Hawks have to play with desperation in these next 2 games. Let’s see if they can get it done
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
1:59 am
For all the cricism about Horford being soft, I haven’t seen one Hawks player do anything remotely tough in this series. Soft from the top down, but don’t tell that to the apologists.
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
2:00 am
“Teague continues to make Woody and Drew look stupid for not playing him earlier.”
He was 6-18 tonight. None of their key players showed up in this one.
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
2:03 am
“What separates JJ from the rest of the superstars in the league, is his ability to get to the FT line.”
That and his mentality.Getting to the line is about being able to beat defenders off the dribble, and he hasn’t done that in 5 years. But the mentality to finish strong at the rim has NEVER been there.
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
2:10 am
High-sider
April 30th, 2012
6:21 pm
High-sider
April 30th, 2012
4:19 pm
Marvin Williams’ stat line for Game 1 vs Boston – 2pts, 1reb, 0asts, 2pfs [personal fouls] in 13:34 of playing time
2pts/814secs = x pts/2160secs
814x = 4320
x = 5.307pts
1reb/814secs = x rebs/2160secs
814x = 2160
x = 2.653rebs
814x = 2160
“Per 36 Minutes” statistic[s] for Marvin Williams for Game 1 vs Boston:
5.307pts, 2.653rebs, 0asts and 5.307personal fouls
northcyde, please verify my calculations for Marvin Williams’ “Per 36 Minutes” statistics for last night’s playoff game vs. the Boston Celtics. LOL
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northcyde, I’m waiting for your verification [of my calculation(s)].
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northcyde, I’m still waiting. [with arms folded, tapping my foot, a serious facial expression and LMAO on the inside]
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
2:16 am
Michael Cunningham . . . this may jeopardize your relationship with Drew, but you need to DIRECTLY come out and ask him why he isn’t utilizing Tracy McGrady more in the playoffs. And when he gives you a BS answer, follow it up with even tougher questions.
I don’t know what the hell is going on behind the scenes between those two, but Drew is in a spot right now in which he MUST try to use McGrady, and the array of talents he potentially brings to the table.
We’re getting nothing from Marvin, and very little from Pargo and Green. So why isn’t McGrady playing in at least as the “Point Forward”? Why isn’t McGrady playing alongside Joe Johnson ( whether it be at SF or PG )?
Drew is singlehandedly undermining your prediction of T-Mac having a big series, by relying on guys who simply aren’t getting it done.
I’ve said for a long time that Drew needs to shorten this rotation, but he refuses to do it. He’s actually coaching like it’s still in the regular season, and not the postseason. He better get out of that mode, or this team may fade FAST.
Teague is getting a pass by most of the fan base, because people are highly upset at JJ and Drew. But Teague went 1 – 8 FG in the 2nd half and only had 2 assists the entire night. He was aggressive, but ineffective, for the most part. It would be nice if he could find the open man when he drives to the hole.
Unlike most of the doom and gloomers on here, I’m actually looking forward to see how this team responds in Game 3 in Boston. No way am I going to slit my wrists and whine and cry just because the Hawks lost a game in which Pierce played like Jordan in the 4th quarter.
That’s a game in which everyone will be picking the Celtics to win. So how will Drew and the Hawks respond?
“A playoff series doesn’t start, until the road team wins a game”
- Charles Barkley
NOW the series has started.
You guys knew this wasn’t going to be easy. And if you’re already giving up on the series, shame on you. This thing is FAR from over.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
2:25 am
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
2:03 am
“What separates JJ from the rest of the superstars in the league, is his ability to get to the FT line.”
That and his mentality.Getting to the line is about being able to beat defenders off the dribble, and he hasn’t done that in 5 years. But the mentality to finish strong at the rim has NEVER been there.
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Robbie . . . JJ is soft, as is most of the team. That’s why he doesn’t get to the line a lot. He doesn’t like the contact.
JJ should be diving down on the low block, and damn near wrestling with the opposing SG/SF for position. And when he gets the ball, he should go hard enough to either draw or initiate contact. Make the refs call SOMETHING.
It’s not really about being quick enough, it’s about being willing to take a hit.
Pierce got going in this game in the 3rd quarter, not because his shot was falling, but because he was getting to the FT line and making FTs. 6 of his 13 FTs came in that quarter. Those FT got that dude going ( along with JJ’s less than stellar defense on him tonight ).
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
2:31 am
“Why did you sign Tmac if you’re not going to use him?”
- tyger
And to me, that’s the Million Dollar Question. Why did we sign him, if we’re not going to use him?
You can’t justify NOT using him, with Marvin shooting less than 20% FG and Green being a non-factor. He’s the one guy on the team that could actually make scoring the basketball a little easier, and he’s not being utilized against the #1 defense in the NBA.
Drew can’t use the excuses of “back to backs” or “giving him rest” anymore. MC needs to get to the bottom of why Tracy McGrady can’t get extended minutes on the floor with our key people.
johnny
May 2nd, 2012
2:36 am
“Why did you sign Tmac if you’re not going to use him?”
someone throw this quesiton to LD and demand a clear answer. Stop using momentum as a excuse
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
2:57 am
As MsDee pointed out earlier in the day yesterday, the nature of Hawk fans is to turn on each other . . than to focus that negative energy toward the opponent.
I can hear ATL sports talk radio tomorrow. Saying how JJ isn’t clutch. Saying how Drew isn’t coaching right. Just out and out trashing the Hawks.
But Paul Pierce “Tebowing” in the middle of our floor should pizz off every hardcore Hawk fan. It should make you say . . “look at this punk mutha (( bleepa )).” It should even make Rev cuss. It should make the Hawk players cuss too.
It was the ultimate show of disrespect. And ESPN . . opps . . CSPN ( Celtics Sports Programming Network ) . . will be playing the Pierce “Tebowing” shot for the next 3 days. The most arrogant team on earth. Even more arrogant the the Miami Heat.
As much as people hate Lebron, Lebron would NOT have pulled a stunt like that.
To me, that was the equivalent of Terrell Owens doing his “Cowboy Star” pose in the middle of Texas Stadium.
Trust and believe that if Josh Smith did that in the middle of Boston Garden, he would become Public Enemy #1 of Celtic fans, and be a source of motivation for Celtic players.
But not the Hawks and Hawk fans. When a punk does something like that, it will only get mentioned in passing, while the fans and media tear the team apart . . . instead of channeling all of the negativity toward Boston.
So as my boy Tupac said at the end of his song, “Hit Em Up” back in 1996 . . .
(( bleep )) Paul Pierce
(( bleep )) Rondo
(( bleep )) Boston as a city, team, and a mutha (( bleepin )) fan base
And if you wanna be down with Boston, (( bleep )) you too
Chino XL, (( bleep )) you too
All you mutha (( bleepas )), (( bleep )) you too
Big Daddy
May 2nd, 2012
3:01 am
LD should post a picture of Pierce doing a Tebow at mid-court in the locker room (I am sure there is one somewhere) and take it with them to Boston.
Joe should be thinking about what he can do to be like Pierce who had a horrible game 1 but came back and demonstrated why he is the team leader in game 2. MC, I know you think Boston’s defense is too good for him to overcome it, but I have seen him overcome tough defenses before. The question is whether he is motivated and his team mates and coaches will do what is necessary to get him open.
I hope Josh is able to play in the next game. Without him, we have no chance and the series will be shortlived. Jeff needs to stop deffering the ball to Joe and Josh so quickly after he comes across half court. He is never going to get his assists up until he is the one running the plays. I am impressed with his development over the course of this season. He will build on it and I think become one of the better point guards in the league.
Right now, the Hawks have to dig in and show that they belong. No one is giving them credit. Everyone expects for Boston to roll over them. They are definitely shorthanded with Al and Zaza out, but this is how it goes sometimes. And, I might add, it is just not on the players. The coaches have to make adjustments too. GO HAWKS!!!
Mike W
May 2nd, 2012
3:19 am
MC dont be scared to ask drew the million dollar question about t-mac,If he gives you a bs excuse ask another have your own segment of ask tough questions about t-mac 6mins smh but marvina stays in game after not doing nothing and contributing to boston comeback.LD dumb as bricks for staying with marvina so long and not going back to t mac who was “GETTING TO THE LINE” as soon he checked in and playing inspired D. MC just keep asking drew till he admits cause we all know he cnt handle the truth.LD lost us this game with his sry a** playing calling on O late and rotations looking like game 2 of last yr.
Hawks Fan Down Under
May 2nd, 2012
3:21 am
Hawks were horrible offensively in the 4th. JJ being the main culprit followed by Teague. This team is going nowhere with LD and JJ running the show…..just terrible. Seriously no clutch whatsoever!!!!
Series done!
Drop the Ball
May 2nd, 2012
3:22 am
Better yet this same ASG owner who destroyed Hockey again here in atlanta along with Mayor too…yes he can be Jerk of the Year instead never win till ASG sales team ..we never set foot in Phillips arena again Sund a loser of the year in booby prize! Now i told you we would play with lousy players who only play when feel it….Coach can’t decide on why he just draws up plays n ask Josh smith and Joe Johnson and The Lowlight Factory to do it if not its a sad day again….now we go to Boston and have win both there show Fans in atlanta we can beat them…If not U get see Highlight Factory get shutdown and doors locked in Phillips arena game five!
Hawks Fan Down Under
May 2nd, 2012
3:25 am
Northcyde do you seriously think this Hawks outfit has the mental toughness to win this series?
I dont. Where will it come from? Not JJ thats for sure.
Buddy Grizzard
May 2nd, 2012
3:26 am
Stop making excuses for Marvin northcyde!
Geno
May 2nd, 2012
3:43 am
We want tmac!!!! We want tmac!!!! He is the closet thing to a jordan type player we got…. Why in the hell he aint gettn no playing time….. This is what my city has been wondering….. Larry Drew get a clue…u makn the team smell like boo boo… Im embarrased about what tmac thinks about the hawks and this bipolar city…. Tmac n joe coulda been our jordan and pippen….atleast close to it… Marvin has lost all his confidence…..
hawkfan
May 2nd, 2012
3:57 am
i want to piggyback on a little bit of what northcyde was talking about, hawks are always unpredictable and every time when you think you have figured them out, they come and surprise you, i knew when i saw the betting line with atl +5 and 71% chance winning that we were almost 100% going to lose, so now we go to boston and everyone and their momma feels we will get blown out, I have a funny feeling that we will do the opposite and win one of the games there just because we are always unpredictable, and I do feel that without rondo the celtics defense does pickup more when bradley defends but with rondo their offense is better, so it’s pick your poison
Same team, different year
May 2nd, 2012
3:59 am
Get bounced this round or next round. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Disperse
May 2nd, 2012
4:11 am
I feel sorry for T-Mac lol. He picked the wrong team (because of Larry Drew). He could’ve easily went to Chicago or even Celtics with his old coach (Doc River) who will play him until he gets old.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
4:34 am
@ Hawks Fan Down Under
This is NOT a great Celtics team. If it takes an All-Time playoff performance from Pierce to barely beat us, I say . . . DO IT AGAIN.
My thing is this. The Celtics are a great defensive team. The Hawks ( at times ) can be very good defensively. That defense held up until Pierce went off in the 4th.
I just don’t see this team rolling over and dying, like some on this blog are expecting then to do. I remember the Miami series in 2009, after the Hawks got embarrassed in Game 3 to go down 2 – 1. People thought we were dead. But the Hawks win Game 4, and regain the home court advantage.
Last night’s game eerily reminds me of Game 5 of the Milwaukee series, when the Bucks came into Philips and beat us ( with JJ not being able to make plays at the end of the game ).
Game 6 in Milwaukee was supposed to be the Bucks’ coronation into the 2nd round. Instead, it became a nightmare for them, with the Hawks playing one of the best defensive quarters I’ve ever seen.
I’m not saying that we’re going to win this series . .. but I won’t be shocked if the Hawks won Game 3. The Hawks shot 35% FG, yet, was a JJ 3 from being down 2 with a minute to go.
This series is even in my eyes, which means the Hawks will win one of these games in Boston.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
4:41 am
The other thing is this:
Did the Celtics beat us, or did the Hawks choke?
If you believe that the Hawks choked, then the Celtics aren’t as good as people tout them to be.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
4:42 am
Well I can go out and buy those Game 5 tickets for next Tuesday night now. Series should be tied 2 – 2 by the time next Monday comes around.
Don
May 2nd, 2012
4:49 am
Well good old Joe “Choke” Johnson is up to his usual playoff swoon and taking the whole team on his back down to defeat. Signing that guy to big long term money signaled the death to any playoff chances the Hawks will ever have until the contract is gone in what 5 more years. Shear management genius The only one with a clue was Steven Belkin and he was over ruled many years ago.
James
May 2nd, 2012
5:40 am
“Did the Celtics beat us, or did the Hawks choke?”
While you could argue that it is a combination of both, I’d say it’s more that the Celtics beat us. The Hawks played against the Celtics tonight the same way they have played against them during the entire year. The Hawks always struggle to score against the Celtics, there’s no surprise there. I wouldn’t call it “choking” on behalf of the Hawks when you consider the fact that the struggles have been consistent in, essentially, each and every meeting with the Celtics. Like I said before, this series comes down to how effective the Hawks’ defense is and how frequently the Hawks are able to make jumpshots. We have no interior presence against the Celtics, our attempt is perimeter-oriented, unless Teague manages to penetrate and finish at the hoop. Our lone, healhty, low-post threat is not a threat down low against the Celtics. I’m talking about Josh here. If you look at how he’s played against the Celtics in the 5 meetings so far this year, Josh’s offense has come almost entirely from the perimeter, and that continued tonight. For the most part, KG, and even Bass at times, are able to defend him straight up and push him off the block so that he has to try and take them off the dribble or shoot a faceup or step-back jumper to score on them. When he tries to drive and gets by his man, he is either cut off, or has someone come over to help and poke the ball away, or he is forced to make a pass. Josh is still going to put up points and draw attention, but most likely, he’s going to be inefficient, since he’s unable to play to his strengths on the offensive end to score. Outside of Josh and Teague, and without someone inside like Horford or Zaza to clean up the misses, we are basically a one-and-done perimeter team, unless we get lucky and Celtics continue to fumble the rebounds and give us more free second chances.
At the end of the day, it comes down to whether we can stop the celtics from scoring enough to survive each meeting. We know the Hawks will struggle to put points on the board unless they are able to get out in transition, and in crunch-time, it’s going to come down to half-court execution, so if the games get close, we are going to have to hope that someone is able to convert their jump shots in crunch time for the Hawks or that the Hawks are lock down the Celtics offense to the point where they don’t need to score down the stretch to win. That’s a dangerous way to play.
I feel like the Celtics, without Ray Allen, will actually struggle more to score than we will due to the fact that they are a bit short on perimeter shooters, and without Ray, their floor balance and spacing is not nearly as effective, so it basically comes down to counting on Pierce or KG to make a play and score, or counting on Rondo to get someone open for a high-percentage shot. The Hawks have more streaky scorers who can get it going, but again, those scorers are jump shooters, and since most of the Hawks rarely get to the free throw line without the refs giving them some very friendly treatment (this doesn’t happen often), the scoring is going to come down to whether or not we make our jump shots.
I still think that the Hawks have a chance to win, but I don’t feel like we have any definitive edge in this series. We have no great mismatch that really sticks out, and our style of play isn’t something that is a mismatch for the Celtics. The only thing we have that causes the Celtics trouble is our transition game if we can get out and run. The other advantage we have is our size on the perimeter if we move Joe back to the 2 and start either Marvin or T-Mac at the 3, but that’s a big gamble. The entire style of play of the Hawks is a gamble. That’s why I’m not confident about this series. I’m not counting the Hawks out by any means, but I definitely don’t feel like they have the upper-hand in the series.
brigadierjerry
May 2nd, 2012
5:53 am
northclyde,
I missed the game and they gave me the recaps but i saw the highlights and saw Pierce with that tebow nonsense. I respect him as a player but that guy is a big douche. He has done other stuff like that at taking bows at MSG and other arenas after hitting a big shot. If if was a hawks player for the next game when he comes down the lane, I would give him a hard foul via oakley or laimbeer. I got so pissed off seeing that, if I saw him personally he would get punched.
A lot if the next 2 games also depend on the health status of Josh Smith. This is what i had posted from the game thread:
I think one thing Charles Barkely stated awhile back saying the Hawks have too many nice guys are true. You have to have an alpha male who just states, “you know what I dont give a f!!!k I am gonna ride the team on my shoulders and win this game. hawks dont have any player like that. You need a closer. Pierce has that, Kobe has that, heck even Melo who I am not the biggest fan of has that. You need that in the playoffs. There isnt anyone on the Celtics that can guard Johnson but again from what the stats say down the stretch Pierce will get to the line and take it to the basket, Johnson likes to create space and fade for shots. It makes such a big difference even if you are struggling from the filed taking it to the basket and drawing fouls. That is what hurts for a player like Johnson. I like Teague and he is learning and is playing well I dont expect him to be like that now but Johnson is what he is but it isnt enough
northclyde, if the Hawks lose this series due to continued poor rotations by Drew, does Drew deserve to be back and do you blow up this team?
dub366
May 2nd, 2012
5:58 am
DUMB COACHING WITH A DUMB PLAYER IN JOE JOHNSON THAT ALL I GOT TO SAY.
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
6:28 am
Notebook: Celtics 87, Hawks 80
Posted Wednesday May 2, 2012 12:45AM
By Matt Winkeljohn, for NBA.com
“…NOT: Pierce had game highs in points, rebounds, free throws attempted and made and . . . turnovers (eight). That was a function of him handling the ball so much more with Rondo out. . . . Marvin Williams made just 1-of-6 shots, and after finishing the season fairly strong off the Atlanta bench, he’s made just 2-of-11 shots (18.2 percent) in the series. The former starter is averaging 2.5 points per game, or less than Ivan Johnson (5.0), Collins (4.0) and Tracy McGrady (3.5). . . . Boston has made just 3-of-25 3-pointers in two games. . . . Fellow sub Green has scored just two points in each game so far. . . . Pietrus has missed all five of his shots in the series…”
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
6:35 am
Notebook: Celtics 87, Hawks 80
Posted Wednesday May 2, 2012 12:45AM
By Matt Winkeljohn, for NBA.com
“…NOTABLE: Hawks officials are hopeful that Pachulia (sprained left foot) might be able to play by Game 5, next Tuesday in Atlanta. … Vladimir Radmanovic has not played in the series, but given Marvin Williams’ work so far may see action in Boston…”
NUNNA!
May 2nd, 2012
6:37 am
EmirS.
4. Are we all in agreement that if Josh is injured and can’t play or is limited to playing time, we can call this series a wrap up?
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Yes..
Now we all are “coaches” on this blog,and we all seem to know the players better than the coaches do.
With that being said,we know that the coaching staff does not and will not make the major decisions that we all pretty much know will work for this team.
So,why bother? Why bother watching,supporting,or even blogging every game about this team and this organization?
I also notice that most if not all on here(me included) seem to talk about this team as not being associated with us.
Most of the other fans of consistent playoff teams always talk using terms such as “our coach”,”our team”,”our bench”,”our owners”,etc…
But with us its always,”LD”,”the hawks”,”the bench”,”the ASG”,well you know what im getting at this morning lol..
I just hope that “our owners” read blogs like this and notice that we speak for most when not closely identifying ourselves with terms of “we” or “our” when speaking on our beloved hawks.
Dang..I was going somewhere with this but i just got a call that one of my co-workers won’t be in and that i need head to the office to hand out checks on my day off..And from a late night appointment that i just got back home from..
My mind went blank lol..
Sorry..I gotta go..I’ll holla yall..Keep yo head up hawks fam..
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
6:51 am
Radmanovic should definitely take Marvin’s minutes from here on out.
Defense and rebounding be damned, this team needs OFFENSE in the worst way right now or else they won’t win another game.
Drew’s coaching make Del Negro look like Phil Jackson.
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
6:55 am
“Tmac n joe coulda been our jordan and pippen….atleast close to it…”
Oh please.
High-sider
May 2nd, 2012
7:01 am
Repost FTPB
High-sider
May 1st, 2012
11:09 pm
Luke Cage
May 1st, 2012
10:16 pm
High-sider
May 1st, 2012
10:15 pm
Anybody miss Jamal Crawford [now]? Hawks only score 80 points. BOS beats ATL, 87-80.
I think Crawford was sitting at home watching this game since he couldn’t get Portland in the playoffs.
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You’re right. Jamal Crawford was probably sitting at home [in Seattle] watching the Hawks and he [Crawford] was also probably laughing at the fact that the Hawks can’t score worth a sh-t without him [in this playoff series]. He’s probably also laughing at Rick Sund and the ASG.
Remember, if the Hawks don’t win at least 7 [seven] games this postseason, this [Hawks] team will not have improved over last postseason’s performance[s].
kuhndog
May 2nd, 2012
7:01 am
Trap game and we fell in the trap,T-Mac did good work and if the coach is going to let personal feelings getting in the way of coaching he needs to go.I thought Marvin was gonna have a better game,NOT. The Hawks dont handle defensive pressure real well.With an 11 point lead they got sloppy and lax,and didnt run any real good 1/2 court sets well.Once they let Boston seize the momentum it changed the game.I also believe LD rode the starters too much in the 3rd and didnt sub soon enough,Pargo,T-Mac and Ivan.If you dont believe in your bench a little your in trouble.We gotta have one in Boston I guess we will see how bad the Hawks want it.By the way J smoove is the best player on the Hawks,Joe wants to be a compliment player,I like Joe but josh is the soul of the team
kuhndog
May 2nd, 2012
7:11 am
Yea we miss JC! but if he would have stayed in the ATL he would have wanted more than he got in Portland 2 years 10 million.I wont make 2 million in a life time lucky to make 1.
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
7:20 am
The Hawks Body Language was Terrible:
After our Hwks established the 11 pt lead;
for whatever reason the body language gave me pause.
Teague was the 1st that I noticed, as something went missing.
Joe became more and more discouraged / frustrated with his lack
of ability *[game gone South] to deal with tough, hard nosed defenders
who actually guard him.
Joe is no longer feared by anyone in the League and anyone can see.
His slashing / driving ability is no longer there.
*(we all need to admit – Joe has lost a step [quickness] or two)
T-Mac, pissed at LD, Ivan adjusting to 1st play-offs, Marvin just stinks,
Willie Green cannot score when Joe & Josh are in full Iso-mode,
To me it appeared Joe & Josh were taking turns last nite:
Okay – my turn now.
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On top of it all:
You cannot win a playoff series starting Collins. (playing 30+ min)
You cannot beat anyone if Marvin touches the floor.
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Then there`s LD:
talk about ‘`bein` built for the reglar season”
that`s LD;
Bobby Cox part deux
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
7:25 am
Where is our Reg season offensive sets ?
No ball movement, No player movement, Ball does not change sides !
-stagnant-
*’`Woody Ball`’* … it has been proven; does not work in play-offs !
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
7:33 am
Last eve I said Celts in ‘`6`’
Today I feel much better:
Celts in ‘`5`’ … !
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If the Hawks have any testosterone whatsoever;
*[ Tebow ]*
They will come out slugging in Boston !
Anyone wish to wager ? … ~ not me as I do not gamble ~
NoGiver
May 2nd, 2012
7:36 am
This is what McGrady would have done in LD’s face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtpWVp07A14
Dawg
May 2nd, 2012
7:39 am
Why does Joe bring the ball up and pound, pound, dribble, and stagnate everything? Why does Drew want him to hog the ball? Joe is not quick enough to run an offense. Joe can not dribble enough to run an offense. Boston defends Joe so easily. Joe hurts the team.
Teague is must more effective running the show. Teague can dribble and break down a defense.
ISO Joe stinks.
Dawg
May 2nd, 2012
7:41 am
With Joe and Josh making the decisions, Barkley seems more and more right in his biting accessments of the Hawks.
That offense is painful to watch.
Pick and Miss
May 2nd, 2012
7:45 am
Im so sick of watching these losers. Drew got totally outcoached. Does he have any plays at all? The best plays (actually the only play) we have coming out of time out is a pick and miss play with Joe and Ivan Johnson? What can Ivan do coming off a pick? And then Slow Joe never looks for the other guy anyways. Unfortunately, this is going to be the team in Atlanta until we get new owners/GM/coach. There was no excuse last night to lose to a team without two of their best players. They had no point guard but we never once pressured them. Just terrible game plan/coaching/playing. It is so frustrating to watch these losers!!!
Section 303
May 2nd, 2012
7:45 am
northcyde, if you drove from Tennessee for last night’s game, I’m sorry. Really. I can only imagine what a sh#t ride back that was for you. My ride back to Smyrna was hard enough.
Section 303
May 2nd, 2012
7:49 am
I hate Marvin Williams. I hate Larry Drew even more for giving him minutes he does not deserve. Reading Michael’s quotes for last night (I was to angry to watch the NBA TV presser), LD says he would do the samething again. Really? First, we had the ‘10 playoffs where Mike Woodson refused to double Dwight Howard. Now, we have LD refusing to limit the minutes of the bench that is producing nothing in this series. Can’t bring LD back next season.
I am so p#ssed off at the Hawks for losing last night. More angry than a rational person should be. I am so glad I have tickets to the Counting Crows on Friday night. Will not have to sit home and watch this team of a$$clowns play.
Contract the Hawks.
terrell
May 2nd, 2012
7:59 am
The Marvin Williams curse continues. Been going on since 2005. Get rid of this clown for crying out loud.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
303 . . I didn’t go to the game. But even if I did, yeah, that was a tough loss . . . but not the end of the world.
I hope you guys realize that this was a MUST WIN for Boston. If they go down 2 – 0 in this series, they’d have to beat us 4 out of the next 5 games. They played desperate, we kinda choked, and they won.
It’s playoff basketball.
Now it becomes a best of 5 series, and Boston has home court. So we simply have to go up there and win a game.
But now the tables are turned. Those arrogant mo-fos think they have the series wrapped up, and every talking head in the NBA will tell them that. Hopefully they’ll start thinking that they’re the “Big Bad Celtics” again, and the Hawks will punch them in the mouth to make sure that this will be a war.
So it’s up to the Hawks to go up there and get a game.
LOL . . as much of a beating as JJ is taking, he scored 13 points despite missing 7 of 10 shots ( as MC stated ) mainly because he went 5 – 6 FT and hit 2 threes.
MC won’t mention that JJ scored 22 points on 17 shots, and actually the most efficient scorer the Hawks had last night . . . but I understand. He couldn’t make the superstar plays to close the game. He’s paid like a superstar, so he will get superstar criticism when he doesn’t get it done.
Hopefully he understands that, and simply needs to play better down the stretch. He only took 3 shots in the quarter, but it was the 2 turnovers that was the killer. I’d rather for him to take off balance 22 footers, than to turn the ball over.
northcyde
May 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
LOL . . as much of a beating as JJ is taking, he scored 13 points in the 2nd half despite missing 7 of 10 shots ( as MC stated ), mainly because he went 5 – 6 FT and hit 2 threes.
ToeKnee
May 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
can we amnesty Joe Johnson during the playoffs? or do we have to wait until next season?
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
8:15 am
More Observations:
* T-Mac can get to the line 4 FTs in 6 min.
* So can Ivan
* Teague is a [2] guard / not a natural [1]
* I`m with Buddy G / sign Nash in the off-season
* I cannot imagine our offense stagnating with Nash
* Amnesty Joe or trade him to knicks for Amare / re-unite Nash & Amare
* Plus Josh; Al; & Zaza-[Gortat], Teaguer-[Barbosa]
* Jerry Sloan … heck-fire get `em all a ring
* [Sloan was either (Ra`mon or Emir`s) idea not mine]
* Never,,, ever,,, play Marvin again,,, ever,,, for any reason,,, whatsoever !
* LD has had a nice apprenticeship
* Now – he can go coach the Clippers or Sac-town or …
* … some other team with sucky owners ………………..
* Play V-Rad / T-Mac / & / Ivan
* In no particular order
* Just don`t play Collins or Marvin
MsDee
May 2nd, 2012
8:24 am
OK, we are now tied in this series..going into Beantown, we might be w/o Josh. The player that MUST step up and play as if HE can BE that STAR is non other than Jeff Teague!! Just how Pierce took it upon himself to get the first 9 points in this game, Teague needs to do the same. Teague is the ONLY player who can get to the rim at will. His 1st 5 possessions should be to attack the rim and draw some quick fouls on Boston. In every game played against Boston, the ref’s has giving Boston the right foul calls so that shouldnt be a problem. If Josh is indeed out for game 3, no excuse for Teague to have a problem getting the ball up the court after a rebound cause he wont have to worry about Josh keeping it just to make an illevised pass for a turn over. My point is, this SHOULD be Teagues’ game come Friday. Not Joe, tho I still expect Joe to have atleast 18-22pts. And like northcyde said, COULD SOMEBODY, ANYBODY PLEASE TELL DREW TO PLAY TMAC LONGER THAT MARVIN IN GAME 3..PLEASE!!!!!!!!! (I wont even put a minimum on min for Tmac, as long as it more than Marvin’s!)
Robbie
May 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
No they don’t miss Jamal Crawford, another ISO player who pounds the bball.
They miss Lenny Wilkens. A good coach who actually brings an identity and holds players accountable.
Former Hawks fan
May 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
Watching the first two games illustrates what idiots the Atlanta Spirit are for making Joe Johnson their franchise player and giving up the farm, the barn and the horses to get him. He’s a very good player but not someone that can dominate a game or even make a difference in the game. Last night when the Celtics came back and the Hawks needed to respond Joe Johnson was hanging out at the edge of the 3 point line watching. He didn’t even try to get into the offense, let alone dominate it. Again, no doubt he’s a very good player but not great.
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Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
8:36 am
ToeKnee … … plaudits
‘`can we amnesty Joe Johnson during the playoffs?
or do we have to wait until next season? `’
____________________________________________
Such an effervescent idea.
O'brien
May 2nd, 2012
8:40 am
What’s up Big Ray,
Josh does not get enough credit, but part of that is because he is so frustrating to watch at times. After a really good game 1, he goes 1-8 on jumpers in game 2, including some terrible shots/decision making.
O'brien
May 2nd, 2012
8:40 am
Another one of LD’s mistakes is to have Collins and Marvin on the floor at the same time. When that happens, the Hawks are playing 3 on 5 on offense.
Speaking of which, Dampier should have gotten minutes down the stretch in the regular season, because he deserves a chance to see if he could do better than Collins (especially on offense). And to think, Dampier is the one who pushed us into luxury tax.
O'brien
May 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
LD said the plan was to get out and run. But yet in the 4th, we constantly walked the ball up. Is that a coaching decision, or were the players ignoring LD’s wishes.
In 2 games, Marvin is 2-11 from the field. And last night, despite going 1-6, he still played 20 minutes, but T-Mac only played 6. I don’t get it.
cp
May 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Other than adding the 3 point shot to his game, Marvin is pretty much the same player he was coming out of NC. He still cant handle the ball, create his own shot, or finish at the rim. How many more years is left on his contract? There has to be a sf available this year when the Hawks pick that can replace what he does.
Peter
May 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
OK….. so Joe Johnson willed the team to Victory as he typically does in Kobe or Paul Pierce fashion. you know a leader with intensity !
Wake up the dream is over !
doc
May 2nd, 2012
9:18 am
ld flat lost control of the game from 3 minutes left in the third quarter and the first 4 minutes of the fourth as he rested his young studs and pierce and kg stayed on the court. they had starters we had total second stringers in totally overmatched. even my czech girlfriend is saying we need 2 and 5 on the court as she doesn’t know the names. LD sometimes gets a little guy syndrome and just does stupid things when coaching against the likes of rivers who probably was loving that move.
not too many calls went our way on contact as pierce literally falls into Ivan for a call and jj rounds off and gets contact and where there is no way a defender couldnt get set gets the call against him.
no ball movement at all in the end which helps old people.
Tough game to sit through.
MsDee
May 2nd, 2012
9:22 am
Also, I know that most on here is blaming Drew, but ‘our’ bench let us down once again. Pargo, Willie Green, & Marvin has YET to do anything against Boston all season. Not sure if its Boston defense against them or what but they MUST GET IT TOGETHER! Our starters were tired after that 11pt lead. What killed us, tho were Dooling’s (Jamal-like) 3’s in the corner. Tmac should have come in ONLY from the bench at that time to post up to draw attention to himself to give Joe rest/relief on the offensive end. Teague should start cutting to the basket when Tmac post’s up for a quick pass from Tmac or fake pass to Teague for a skip pass to Joe on the other side for a catch and shoot, NO DRIBBLING! Josh and Ivan to get into position for the rebound. Its not that hard, Drew, not at all!!
ejh
May 2nd, 2012
9:35 am
Before this series started I had the Hawks winning in 6. I still think they will win the series, but it may have to be in 7 now. Probably would have won the series in 5 if they wiould have won last night, but they did not so let’s move on to game 3. I thought the Hawks gave the game away last night. The 3 point basket that Keyon Dooling hit out of the corner gave Boston there first three of the series and that helped get them some momentmum. But I blame LD and the Hawks for not continuing to get in transition in the later part of the third quarter and continuing to push the pace of the game. Against the Celtics you have to make this a helter-skelter game. you can not hold the ball until the end of the shot clock, because once you allow their defense to get set, they are very good in their rotations. The hawks have to push the ball up the court after made shots or missed shots, make two or three passes side to side and either drive or kick back out to an open shooter, and his has to be done within the first 12 to 15 seconds on the shot clock, this is how you speed the game up. It does not allow the celtics to set there defense.
Also the worst substitution in my opinion was when collins fouled out was not substituting Dampier for collins. It is eveident that Garnett is having a problem with 7 foot guys pushing him away from the basket. He backs Josh down and shoots over the top, but against bigger guys he stands on the perimeter and shoots jumpers, that is where I would prefer he be. give Dampier minutes when collins gets in foul trouble and keep Josh and Ivan and Vlad at the 4 position.
kreedham
May 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
If Zaza could just play….he’d at least make Garnett sore the next morning.
MsDee
May 2nd, 2012
9:44 am
Hey, just came up with a game us fans & bloggers can play just to kill some time. Its called, “LET’S PLAY COACH”
Those of us who are HUGE Hawks fans and have kelp up with the Hawks should know their personals by now. If you were coach Drew in the last 5 min of the game, (or whenever Josh left), WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE?? Play-by-play if ya can..thx!
kreedham
May 2nd, 2012
9:47 am
MC….to follow up on my last comment….Do the Hawks have any idea when Zaza might be ready?
kreedham
May 2nd, 2012
9:49 am
The media (ESPN) is saying that Stoudemare has to go, after the incident, cause he just can’t work it out with Melo. Trade Amare for Joe, get a HC, let LD stay as an assistant if he wants, get rid of Marvin and beg Josh to stay!
Big Lou
May 2nd, 2012
10:00 am
I wasted my money last night.
The Economy is tuff right now. I’m not going to spend my money as long as LD is coach. Period.
You know what even sadder? The crowd was good, better than Sunday. That’s why people don’t like the Hawks.
I had fans agreeing with me the whole time. Why did LD have all the subs out at once? Why isn’t he riding the starters? Why the heck wasn’t Teague out there when Bradley was at the point? Pargo can’t gaurd him.
Green and Marvin got more minutes than TMAC, yet at least that old man was driving to the basket!
Fire LD and maybe I’ll go to a game. Until then, I rather save up for a team that wins games.
single white dove
May 2nd, 2012
10:15 am
this team wins as a team and lose as a team. what is Larry supposed to do. I dont know why everyone is getting so mad? the hawks showed up, didnt they?
yoursporthousedotcom
May 2nd, 2012
10:35 am
Zero…on the strength
shake & break
May 2nd, 2012
10:37 am
Some of the comments are typical of those who just complain and are never satisfied. You are always looking for the next solution, but it is always misguided.
First, why would you want JC 1 or 2? The Hawks have been there and done that. Plus, how did it work with JC 1 & 2 in Portland & Washington? So now after two playoffs games you want to bring back the same guy (JC1) who was on the team when they were eliminated last year. Also, if JC 1 & JC 2 were still on the team the Hawks likely would have been playing the Heat or Bulls
Second, why would you want Amare? This guy just punched a fire extinguisher and hurt his hand and can’t even play to help his team. And by the way, this is the same guy whose led New York to what? Didn’t the Knicks lose last year and are down 2-0 this year with Amare. Also, how many championships did he win in Phoenix with Steve Nash. Plus, you have Josh, All-NBA Al, ZaZa and Ivan. Why would you want Amare? But again, there goes that usual group of Atlanta Hawks fans who come up with a off the wall or should I say off the extinguisher trade scenario every time a game is lost. This team may need a upgrade at the coaching slot, but what this team is really missing right now is a center that can make any contributions to the game. At least Bass and Bradley are solid players who would play regardless while Twin is a third team bench sitter only to be utilized in certain match-ups. Twin now serves as a starter. That is your issue.
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
10:44 am
cp
Marv is not the same player as he was coming out of UNC.
He has gotten worse.
He was a projected [4] *Kevin Garnett; coming out of college.
Turns out he was nowhwre near as tall nor as athletic as advertised.
*[Hawks Scouting Dept] saw him up-close / no excuse !
The problem as far as development:
They have tried to turn him into *Scottie Pippen ?
Which he is not even a reasonable facsimile.
Marv a ‘`slasher`’ … It hurts my eyes to watch.
yoursporthousedotcom
May 2nd, 2012
10:45 am
shake & break,
No what this team needs is a good 2 or 3 because Zero is the worst player in NBA history.
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
10:49 am
0`B
How can the Hawks run ?
Collins ?;; Marv ?;; Joe [willfully walks] ?;;
Josh refuses to let Teague have the ball ?;;
Run … this bunch … may as well have Bibby out there.
The only runners are Teague & Josh with Teague trailing ?
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
10:56 am
The Hawks are no longer a young bunch of runnin`, jumpin` athletes !
Our Hawks are Older but none the wiser; grumpy ol` misfits.
Those young upstart athletes now reside in Oklahoma.
yoursporthousedotcom
May 2nd, 2012
10:58 am
WE DO NOT WANT AMARE STOUDAMIRE!! I think Joe would be better with a decent 2 or 3 to play with instead of Zero. This Zero guy is awful and nobody wants him.
kwooden
May 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
LD made a mistake not playing TMAC a lot more. Marvin just didn’t have it on the offensive end and his defense was just OK. LD has to figure out a better rotations to get Pargo, Green and TMAC in the game with more of the starters. I know he needs to find more bigs, especially a PF to backup Josh but Marvin just isn’t producing. LD has to try Vlad at PF because he really can’t produce any worse than Marvin. Overall though we can’t keep losing bigs and expect to win this series. Hopefully Josh and Zaza can be ready for Friday. We need those guys real BAD!
GO HAWKS!!
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
11:17 am
shake & break
I fully agree that Jordan Crawford II is not what we need.
Never liked him to begin with.
On the other hand;
you wasted a lot of typing anal yzing my:
satirical Amare scenario which actually was preceded by
the suggestion to amnesty Joe.
Followed by a Nash:
Josh, Zaza, Al, Teague, unit.
However, if trading one bad contract … Amare
-for-
Joe; gets a Big to replace an aging, non play-off producing,
overpaid, slow, volume shooting [2] guard … then ………….
Yes Amare is / was Stupid !
-I get that-
No; I do not always complain.
Yes, I am always looking for the next solution.
Always misguided … yes, no
Yes, I would like Nash
You, yourself mentioned an up-grade in Coaching;
so, is that your next solution ?
If so, I have already mentioned Sloan.
Although Ra`mon or Emir did so 1st.
I think an upgrade @ the GM position is in order.
More so than coaching.
Head of Scouting – definetly needs re-organization
with a new Director of Player personel.
These suggestions:
i dare you to say they are misguided.
`nuff
kwooden
May 2nd, 2012
11:18 am
ejh, I total agree not sure why LD isn’t using Damp on KG, because Kevin has never liked big guys leaning on him.
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
11:21 am
* I not [i] a misguided attempt to capitalize
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
11:22 am
Larry Drew is by far the worst coach in these playoffs…Bar none….
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
11:26 am
His coaching meltdown in the 4th quarter has most likely cost the Hawks this series….
Boston should go up 3-1 coming back to Atlanta to close this ish out…
And thats with or without Josh…
Waive Marvina yesterday!
Grandad
May 2nd, 2012
11:28 am
For anyone who cares:
No I would not trade Joe for Amare.
Amare inj prone.
Amare`s contract expires one yr prior to Joe.
However, Amnesty clause can be used on Joe. (if need be)
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
11:32 am
Larry Drew=Norv Turner=Wade Phillips, assistant coaches who stepped outside their gifts [and became Head Coaches]. Strong smart leaders they are not.. Stick to assisting…..Please…
Also add Fal-cons head coach Mike Smith to that list above.[1-6] against the winners in 2011 means he should not lead either..
It will probably take Mr Blank another 2-3 years to figure out he needs a new head coach and QB…sigh…
Walt Frazier
May 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
The Hawks have been down this road before: Now every Hawks (Atlanta) fan can see-that this team needs to be broken up-coach fired, GM fired, and get new owners for this franchise. The Hawks have a mode that they’re in -where their self esteem is high and they play team basketball. On the other hand-when teams such as Boston, who is mentally tough-resists them and overtake them, the Hawks lose their composure and fall again to self doubt, inferiority, and just give up. The coach is the “head” of the team. What do I mean? I emphasized “head” because although any good “head” has to keep its cool, good or great NBA coaches cannot be a “figure head” such as Larry Drew. The media records his many blunders-such as when he pulled Ivan Johnson-for being too aggressive in an aggressive series. Then he probably loses Ivan’s respect with that “give me a hug”, thug- gesture as they walked to the locker room. That’s some weak s*#t as far as I’m concerned. As they say: so goes the coach, so goes his individual (team) players. The Hawks can play like a team, but they are not a team. No one knows their roles, and that’s where their downfall will be. There’s no “I” in team. This team has too many “I”’s It starts with Larry Drew-who has, always to a point of unfairness to the rest of his team, clung to Josh Smith’s jock-ever since he became coach. Atlanta’s former coach, Mike Woodson gave Josh what little maturation Josh has in this present time-but Josh is still not fully mature on his own; he needs discipline from a great coach to succeed. When I looked at the game last night-I was shouting at the television saying “Josh, get the damn ball out of your hands. Even Dominique said to Bob Rathman, “If Josh would give up the ball, he will get the ball right back”. Josh Smith is passionate, I’ll give him that-but sometimes and in the most crucial parts of the game last night, he just shut ALL his teammates out and tried to win the game himself. Josh got hurt and will be out for the season, as a result of his regression in becoming a mature basketball player. Joe Johnson is another “I” that is not in “team”. Joe is a very good basketball player, but he also has a tendency to rely on his “iso-Joe” to get the job done, but the difference between Joe and Josh is that Joe is coachable; Josh isn’t. That’s not to say they Josh can’t be coached, but he can’t be coached by a coach that is at his level of knowledge and expertise and that lets him do anything he wants to do-as he’s still in “awe” of “J-Smooth’s” athletic ability. There’s no way in the world that Doc Rivers, Tom Thib, Popovich, Phil Jackson, or any good/great coach would stand silent on the sidelines and not pull J-Smooth as Josh chooses to dribble the ball up the court disregarding his coach and point guards and drives coast to coast to the hoop on every occasion-and gets rewarded for bad behavior-only because he made the shot. That is unfair to the other Hawk players. What kind of message does that send? I’m not worried that the Hawks will auto-fold right now, because maybe it’s a blessing in disguise. Larry Drew will now have depend on his “other” players, instead of swinging on Josh nuts and then the Hawk will start playing “team” ball. We’ll talk about “Mr. Kibbles & Bits” Marvin Williams later; that’s for another chapter in another book.
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
11:38 am
Paul will get his piece of humble pie real soon..I would love to see the 76′ers match up with the Celts..I believe Philly will beat those men in green down!
Its been said he not a nice guy buy a long shot..
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
11:38 am
[by] ^^^^^^
msc
May 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
its sad when the crowd knows more then our coach. The whole time people around me were saying “why the F is tmac not in? Stop letting joe dribble sooo much! Get the bench out of here! call time out! Run and push the tempo” Finally “Laryy Drew Get The F outta Atlanta!” lol
but seriously joe needs to pass and get open for a catch n shoot. not dribble n turn it over with a second left on the clock.
Slimjr
May 2nd, 2012
11:45 am
Josh Smith= SUPER HEAD CASE..
HIS SET SHOT IS NOT PLAYOFF READY AND NEVER WILL BE..Give me Rudy Gay’s jumper all day over Osh’s set shot everyday…
Walt Frazier
May 2nd, 2012
11:46 am
GM: Please push for Steve Nash immediately ASAP.
praim Persaud
May 2nd, 2012
1:40 pm
Is it me or is it hapenning for real LD does not like TMAC – all year – you can see this nonsence for a Coah and his double standards – EVRYTIME TMAc playes over 13 mins – HE DID WELL and the TEAM was winning and the bench was awesome. The last 4 game going in – he got minutes and in all he played well. game One (13 mins) and last night 5 – wow – and when we are getting our ASSES blown off – where is teh COMMONSENSE. He was playing terrific defense (listen to the commentators) and WHAM he is gone – 4th and we are in disarray – in 1 MIN and wham – he is gone.
And this idiot is saying that Tracey is SOUR – DAMN RIGHt he is and has all the rights to be.
The MAN IS a TERRIFIC Basket Ball player who the HAWKS can do with – especially last nigh – how can he get a RYTHM – when he is played in a SEE-SAW Manner – WAKEUP Larry Drew – YOU STINK as a COACH when the pressure is on – you appear lost at SEA and has NO CLUE how to coach and use your talents. YOUR BENCH has proven repeatedly they can win you games – NOW is the TIME tu CAPATLIZE on this fact and assets.
YOU WERE ONCE again OUT COACHED and OUT FOXED by the other coach.
Lets see what MORE DUMB stuff you continue to do.
Tim
May 2nd, 2012
1:42 pm
@slimjr
You really need to shut up with all that nonsense that you be saying,everytime i look you always saying something thats really stupid and negative about somebody.Its pretty clear that you dont have much knowledge about the game of basketball.So how about you go somewhere and stuff some grass and your foot in your mouth you cheap ass sucker.
Tired Tired Tired
May 2nd, 2012
1:50 pm
I have watched this sorry excuse for a basketball whatever(not a team) for thirty seven years. I am Tired of watching millionaire pretend to be players collect a check and do absolutely NOTHING. Lousy players, Lousy coaching, Lousy management, Lousy ownership about sums it up. Get out of town LOSERS. Don’t let the million dollar door hit you in your sorry a$$ on the way out of town. Go embarass some other city LOSERS. Tired Tired Tired
Michael Cunningham
May 2nd, 2012
2:09 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.