Atlanta Hawks: Video: Josh Smith lifts Hawks past Celtics

I joined The Boston Globe’s Gary Washburn to review the Hawks’ 83-74 victory over the Celtics in Game 1.

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Admirable SnAckBar

April 30th, 2012
10:24 am

Admirable SnAckBar

April 30th, 2012
10:25 am

Professor Smoove.

Admirable SnAckBar

April 30th, 2012
10:26 am

PHD Smoove.
pretty high dunker!!!

Admirable SnAckBar

April 30th, 2012
10:30 am

good job MC!!!

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
10:33 am

Tyler Perry, JR?

Does Josh look like Tyler Perry, anyone?

Section 303

April 30th, 2012
10:56 am

The “big glasses” look is awful. Do not understand why that is becoming so popular. It just screams “I’m trying really hard to look cool!”

Dawg

April 30th, 2012
11:05 am

Perhaps Doc Rivers should look at the replay. Because he sounds stupid with his recreation of the events. Rondo definitely bumped the ref on purpose.

christopher mehegan

April 30th, 2012
11:08 am

YEAH U GUYS MAY HAVE WON GAME 1 LAST NIGHT BUT UNDERSTAND THIS YA BUNCH OF FAKE PARQUEE FLOPPING DIVA CHEAP SHOT ARTIST’S EXCUSE ME MUDDER CAN’T PLAY A GAME BY MYSELF WITH OUT THE OFFICIALS HELP WHEN THE DUST SETTLES AFTER TUESDAY NIGHT THE SERIES WILL BE AN EVEN STEVEN 1-1 HAHAHAHAH GET USED TO IT REAL FAST U KNOW IT’S COMING CELTICS IN 6 GAMES YA BUNCH OF USELESS OVERATED CHEAP SHOT FAIRWEATHER FANS HEY HOW’S HOCKEY SEASON GOIN FOR YA GUYS OH YEAH THAT’S RIGHT U HAVE NO MORE HOCKEY TEAM IN ATLANTA ANYMORE BECAUSE U HAVE THE WORST FANBASE IN AMERICA U GUYS WILL ALWAYS BE FOREVER KNOWN AS THE NBA’S STEPPING STONE GO CELTICS

Marcus

April 30th, 2012
11:28 am

C. Mehegan @ 11:08 am is the unfortunate downside of the convergence freedom of speech and internet access.
Probably a dead heat between his brain cell count or the no. of licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.

MsDee

April 30th, 2012
11:38 am

Here are a few comments I have received here on the blog concerning Boston’s comeback and how we had an ‘ugly’ win down the stretch:

” Rondo’s inexcusable actions cost the Celtics a real chance to win this game. I don’t care how much the Hawks led by… if they didn’t foul Josh on that play but instead tied him up, very strong possibility the Hawks lose this game. That’s what we call a squeaker.”
i_am_soulstar
April 29th, 2012
11:54 pm
I didn’t even think we played well besides that hot start in the 1st. Way to not give the game back though. JJ played was Ray Charles out there tonight. Hopefully, he knows the Celtics won’t play that horribly every game in the series, and he steps his game up.
Rusty
April 30th, 2012
12:28 am
This team gets bad press as we always get big leads & tend to blow them which often happens because JJ wants to play iso so he can get his points & LD s poor. Substitutions &bad coaching.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 30th, 2012
12:38 am
“One thing about tonight’s game: it is a little bit of fool’s gold. Pierce isn’t going to throw up that many bricks every game. Allen will be back. Kirk isn’t going to play this well the whole series. Teague, and to a lesser extent Josh, are not going to make outside shots at the rate they did.
The one aberration going the other way is Joe’s terrible shooting night; Joe will get better. But if the Celtics make half of those jumpers in Game 2, the Hawks are not going to win again playing the way they did, even if Rondo doesn’t play.
During those dry spells, the Hawks have to find a way to get better shots. Can’t rely on bailout 3s from Kirk to save bad possessions. I am glad they won and they played great defense, but they have to find a way to get good shots more consistently against Boston’s D. A lot of that is on LD to read the Celtics D and design plays that will get players open more often.”

From our OWN fans, we get negative comments about how we gave up a good lead, how Boston had the chance and probably would have won had not Rondo got ejected, and how Joe Johnson ugly shooting night and his turn-overs cost us to lose the lead..blah BLah BLAH!! If I’m not mistaken, did NOT the Hawks come back (just like Boston did last night) from a 12 or 14 pts definct against Boston the 1st game we played them here in Atlanta by Ray Allen’s flying 3’s to ONLY LOSE BY 3? (Boston losing by 9 last night) Did NOT Joe Johnson score 25 BIG points to ALMOST win it for the Hawks that night?( Rondo/KG ALMOST won it for Boston last night), Did not Teague make a bad/stupid decision to jack up the airball 3 when the ball should have CLEARLY been in the HOT HANDS of Joe Johnson’s that night which may have tied the game? (Rondo’s stupid/bad decision cost them the game on last night)..a whole lot of similarites there. Boston did the same crap at losing a big lead in the 4th to us after a great comeback by Joe but our poor poor Hawks ALWAYS seem to get punished as if we just stumbled up again into the playoffs as if this isnt our 5th CONSECUTIVE season making it, WITH LIMITED PLAYERS AT THAT..all im lefted with is, WOW, WHAT A SHAME, NO LOVE FROM THE FANS!!

MsDee

April 30th, 2012
11:39 am

“if they didn’t foul Josh on that play but instead tied him up, very strong possibility the Hawks lose this game.”

Heck, for that matter, had not the time ran out on the Hawks in that 1st game, very strong possibility the Celtics lose that game..

MsDee

April 30th, 2012
11:40 am

drmaryb.(*_*).
April 30th, 2012
9:55 am

“Having said that, great win and Hawks should be up 2-0 heading up to Beantown with Rondo sitting out at least 1 game.”
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The Hawks beat tne C’s with Rondo, so, why do we need Rondo gone to beat them again?”

I totally agree..I feel the same about Ray Allen..He played that 1st game but we only lost by 3..Im not afraid of a full crew of the Celtics. But who I am afraid of are the ref’s. If a full healthy Hawks and a full healthy Boston plays w/o the ref’s giving it to either team, I say HAWKS win series!! I’m not getting all caught up in Boston PAST champ rings..The Celtics can play just as dumb and stupid just like our Hawks.

tyger

April 30th, 2012
11:43 am

Real Test is maturity…

Are Hawks psychologically able to put Celtics away…

Hawks historically bad with a lead, no matter…
If its a halftime lead or a series lead, they just…
haven’t displayed the killer instinct to put teams away…

This is the immediate challenge for LD…next Beantown…
Last year vs. Chicago…Hawks couldnt close it out…

They rest on their laurels too often…whether its the…
Bad jump shot with a 10 pt lead or the 1-on-1 play…
When instead they should get to the basket…

It’s psychological…win 3 games, lose 2…
That’s been their pattern, but I see improvement…
LD did a great job last night…didnt lose the reigns…

Tommorrow he has to find the right combo…
The right guys who will stomp on their collective throats…
Rather than let them back in the game/series…

Ivan comes to mind, Collins is smart, Hinrich is tough…
The Celtics wont shoot that poorly again…
Ray will be back…

No matter, Hawks match up well with Celtics…
I like Smoove’s demeanor and body language…
He’s on a mission, focused…cant be seduced jumper…
Gotta get to the hoop, get FT, make FT…get in bonus

JJ got shoot in rhythm, off dribble going to the basket…
Too many set shots from time line – too far out…
Get a rhythm shot…

Get Collins the ball!!!…
He’s wide open all the time…
They dont respect him, so make them pay!!!

Rod from College Park

April 30th, 2012
11:50 am

Imagine if Josh ran up on a referee the way Rondo did, would we be guessing whether or not he gets suspended. Rondo should no doubt be suspended a game. Really does not matter. As long as Ray Allen is out, the Hawks should not lose to the Celtics. The 20 million dollar man has to step up a play like a star. There is no one on Boston’s team who can guard him.

I liked the lineup with TMac and the starters because it posed a serious miss match problem for the Celtics. Who ever they put Bradley on, TMac or Joe, that player posted him up, and forced the Celtics to double, which freed up open shooters, or Joe or TMac tried to take advantage of that matchup by shooting over the top. They started switchin Rondo over to Joe, because Bradley has no chance. Jos has to become more aggressive, and stop taking so long to make his moves.

Melvin

April 30th, 2012
11:51 am

Unbelieveable how so many folks are making excuses for Rondo’s actions. As if his chest bump was the refs fault. Doc Rivers gives a lame excuse as well. Rondo bump the ref in the back. Then Doc add more insult by saying it’s okay to continue to bark at the refs after an ejection. If you watch the video, Bass put Josh in the headlock. Clearly a foul on the play. David Stern and the league will look weak if they dont suspend Rondo. They have to protect the refs just like they protect the players.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
11:51 am

He Did a Big Man!

If, Twin can do for the Hawks what, Luc Longley did for the Bulls and, what Bill Cartwright (with that fugly push shot on the left baseline) did for the Bulls at age 40ish – the Hawks will be fine at center.

I know … I know there is only one MJ, but don’t forget that MJ had a HOF Coach, Pippen, Kukoc, Paxson and Kerr in his camp as well. Of, course we have none of those things, but the center position was never the Bulls point of contention nor, attack either.

If Twin does a semblance of what those centers did, then what Joe Johnson said is quite true, ” … the guards will have to get a little nastier.”

Forget about whether or not Rondo plays or not, that is a Celtics problem and, we got 99 problems of our own, but a center ain’t one. We got to go to war with what we got, and what we got is a lot. Unless, until, we run into the Lakers and, Bynum with Gasol.

Dawg

April 30th, 2012
11:51 am

The Celtics get to complain to the refs more than any other team. They complain about every call, following the refs around. Did not the NBA change the rules to stop that? Rivers complains about every thing. LD simply blankly stares.

Just beat the Celtics.

What is the latest on Paculia?

Who else hopes JJ does not get to bring the ball up the court anymore?

christopher mehegan

April 30th, 2012
11:53 am

HEY,MARCUS @MARCUS COME TUESDAY THE CELTICS WILL WALTZ THEIR WAY IN TO ATLANTA AND COMPLETELY DESTROY THE REFEREE BIYATCHING DEPENDS SCRATCHIN MUDDER I CAN’T PLAY A GAME BY MYSEL WITHOUT THE OFFICIALS HELP FAKE PARQUEE FLOPPING DIVA CHEAP SHOT ARTIST’S HAHAHAH IF U CAN’T TAKE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN YA ATLANTA FAIRWEATHER FAN FLOPPER CELTICS IN 6 GAMES CHOKE ON THESE NUTS YA SHMUCK GO CELTICS GREE AND WHITE FOREVER

doc

April 30th, 2012
11:53 am

love the scholarly look. he has been going to a branding doc, getting the threads, diminishing the menacing grimacing and negative banter with refs, saying all the right things and playing like an animal. love the look josh. just win! gonna be an all star and make gazilions somewhere babeee.

Eric

April 30th, 2012
11:53 am

It’s great that we still had an off night and still beat the Celtics. We had bad match up, playing our subs to let Boston catch up. Say what you want, the Hawks were slowing down, they were getting out scored, and had more ball stolen from them and more turn overs. So with all that Boston STILL could not take the lead. Hawks are only going to play better and better with something to prove. Who’s this troll? I know you’re hot Chris, I would be too if we played like that, but you don’t defend your team very well. Sounds like excuses. Talking about the fans and our hockey… Please you want to talk about fairweather fans to troll on the Heat or some other team that gets half a sporstcenter show on them. Back to business, If the Hawks recap, set better match up, and they handle the ball better we will make our statement that we are here and we are serious

KevinM

April 30th, 2012
11:54 am

Joe gets my kudos for sticking on Pierce last night and never letting him get comfortable. I was waiting all game for him to hit a jumper.
And LD, please do not put Marvin on Pierce at any time….we don’t need to awaken the giant.

I expect more of the same from LD come Tuesday. When he sees something that works, he sticks with it as long as he can. Collins and Hinrich will be starting again.

MC, will you have any details on the Zaza status? Is he a realistic option to playing in Round 1? We may need those extra fouls.

doc

April 30th, 2012
11:55 am

dmb, from the get go i was concerned about a stress fracture by the insidious onset and progression of protection and limitation they are providing. any thoughts?

KevinM

April 30th, 2012
11:56 am

Dan Patrick predicting 2 games for Rondo after that accidental bump.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
11:56 am

J-Kool?

“The “big glasses” look is awful. Do not understand why that is becoming so popular. It just screams “I’m trying really hard to look cool!”
________

Kewl or Smart? What an oxymoronic thing to say … Smart typically says, nerd – not cool. Fashion is what you do when you can afford “Dolce & Gabbanna”.

doc

April 30th, 2012
11:58 am

kevin a from last blog. i think the best way for them to do it will be to f@cking kick the door down if you understand.

Ra'mon

April 30th, 2012
12:12 pm

Ok guys, here is a question. I’m not questioning Horford’s toughness. I sincerely don’t understand the rehab of this injury. But if Josh or even Joe would’ve gone down with this same injury, do you guys think they would not at least have committed to playing at least 10-15 min per game in this series? I understand with a knee or ankle the severity of playing. But can someone help me understand what is the true risk of Al playing now, close to five months after he was injured? Is the injury still sore, or is it a thing of strength from this point? I’m having a hard time understanding why he wouldn’t, at minimum, be able to play a handful of minutes with the second unit.

By the way, I”m getting tired of hearing national media say that Paul Pierce won’t always have a bad game in this series. Do they realize that Joe had just as much of a bad game? In fact, its better for the star players to have a bad game at home (Durant, Randolph) because your bench normally plays better at home than on the road. So the Hawks won last night, with only three bigs playing (Josh, Collins, and Ivan), Joe having a poor shooting night, and Green/Pargo/T Mac having an ineffective night as well. Basically the Hawks had a great quarter, and played bad for the next three quarters (mainly because of the benches play). If the Hawks can see they can beat this team, even when they don’t play a perfect game, how will that not be a positive going forward, to step on Boston’s throat and suffocate any chance they think they have.

Also, LD is doing a great job. But I think he needs to take a page out of Miami and Boston’s book, and that is to ALWAYS keep one of your best three players in the game during the playoffs. Josh, Joe, and/or Teague (or Kirk) must remain on the floor at all times of the game. Also, bringing Vlad in the game at times, will open up the lane for Joe, and Josh. Could you imagine Vlad being the one in the corner for that token “Marvin Shot”?

Buddy Grizzard

April 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

Here’s an update on how my predictions on Hoopinion are looking so far:

1. Collins, Erick Dampier, Jerry Stackhouse and Vladimir Radmanovic should only see spot or emergency minutes.

Didn’t see Vlad, which was a major bonus. Don’t expect to see Damp or Stack unless its a blowout. Collins started, played his most minutes of the season and had his best game of the season. You could tell he was very winded in the fourth quarter and Boston was going right at him.

If the Celtics get a jump ball and end up stealing Game 1, we’d all be talking about how LD played Collins too much. But as I said in the game thread (don’t know if you saw it Mary), I’ll eat crow after Collins’ performance tonight.

2. Drew must trust Teague and let him be himself.

For the most part I’m cool with the distribution of minutes. I thought Teague could have played more and stayed on the bench too long at times. The two huge shots Teague hit in the fourth quarter are going to have an impact both on Drew’s trust of Teague and Teague’s trust of himself.

3. Drew needs to realize that Ivan Johnson, not Collins, is the only hope at center.

Benching Ivan for barking at the refs and then barking at LD could be a series-changing move. Although the Celtics almost came back exploiting an exhausted Collins, Ivan got to watch Rondo’s meltdown from the bench and think “that could have been me costing my team this game.”

4. The Celtics will get inside the Hawks’ heads and control the tempo and tone of the series.

This hasn’t happened YET, but it’s a long series.

5. Josh Smith will be frustrated trying to score inside against the Celtics defense and float to the perimeter, exactly where they want him.

Josh shot a lot from outside but you can’t argue when they are going in.

6. Joe will try to play hero ball and fail.

I look like a genius.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
12:23 pm

Insiduous Onset!

“drmaryb, from the get go i was concerned about a stress fracture by the insidious onset and progression of protection and limitation they are providing. any thoughts?” -doc-
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doc, finally an intelligent comment, besides Ms. Dee this morning. For a while, I thought we lost game 1.

I assume we are talking about Zaza’s condition here. Yes doc, I believe that Zaza initially got hurt in the Summer games for his country: The Republic of Georgia. He was playing starters minutes out there, in one game he abused Marcin Gortat with 25 points and 12 boards (or so), someone on the blog kept saying we should have sent Zaza to Phoenix for Gortat or that other scruffy big Phoenix has. LOL on that ish.

Heres my point: Zaza injured his left calf muscle and was shut down for the remainder of their season. IDK if his medical care was adequate, but he returned to us after the lock out and was wearing a calf sleeve all season, the only time he sat was recently for a sore achillies on that same left leg.

Those calf muscles and tendon weaknesses imho, has made the ankle and foot joints susceptible to further injury in this compressed season’s schedule. When Marvin fell on Zaza and sprained his ankle and big toe, I immediatley thought we should have gotten a CT-Scan on the foot as opposed to a MRI, because there are just too many small bones in the foot, much like the cranial vault and the complex knee joints.

CT-Scans are the gold standard in this case, imho, because the cathode tube can look around corners, into tunnels and, inside joint capsules from more angles than a MRI. I was thinking last week, that Zaza may have a cracked cartilage in the dome of his left talus, basically an osteochondral defect.

If that is the case, first of all, they will never tell us fans, secondly the medical treatment Zaza is receiving is all wrong for his injury. He was only booted for two days initially, and was never administered a CT-Scan to my knowledge and because of his size, he may have required some type of surgery to insert a screw/plate to correct the defect, which is intra-capsular.

Either way, improper diagnosis will always mis-treat the patient. doc, I surmise that Zaza has a more serious injury than the company line of day to day. Besides, a sprained foot is a lot different than a sprained ankle and sprained big toe.

Buddy Grizzard

April 30th, 2012
12:30 pm

“Who ever they put Bradley on, TMac or Joe, that player posted him up, and forced the Celtics to double” Rod from C.P.

Hope to see that combination again.

“Bass put Josh in the headlock. Clearly a foul on the play.” – Melvin

Great composure from Josh!

O'brien

April 30th, 2012
12:35 pm

Ra’mon,

Ok guys, here is a question. I’m not questioning Horford’s toughness. I sincerely don’t understand the rehab of this injury. But if Josh or even Joe would’ve gone down with this same injury, do you guys think they would not at least have committed to playing at least 10-15 min per game in this series? I understand with a knee or ankle the severity of playing. But can someone help me understand what is the true risk of Al playing now, close to five months after he was injured? Is the injury still sore, or is it a thing of strength from this point? I’m having a hard time understanding why he wouldn’t, at minimum, be able to play a handful of minutes with the second unit. .

Despite being a 2 time all-star, and averaging 15 and 9 last year, you will always look for a reason to question/doubt Al’s commitment especially since he showed up in camp out of basketball shape.

Al was injured on January 12, so he has been out a little over 3 1/2 months, not the
“almost 5 months” you mentioned. Also, his recovery time was always listed at 3-4 months.

Doc,

If you don’t mind, Could you give Ra’mon the cliff notes version on Al’s injury?

O'brien

April 30th, 2012
12:38 pm

FTPB,

“Iso-Joe was a big reason the Celtics got back in the game early in the third quarter. Joe not touching the ball much was a big reason why the offense got going again soon after that stretch.” MC

Why is it so hard for LD to notice that Iso-Joe does not work anymore?

Northcyde,

He’s been red hot from 3 lately, but sometimes, you just don’t have it..

The last game of the regular season, JJ went 1-4 (25%) from 3. The previous 3 games before that, he went 13-17 (76%) from 3. However, the previous 7 games, he was 10-39 (26%). Sometimes JJ is off, sometimes he is on. But nothing will stop him from taking his 3’s. And he took at least 4 threes in every game.

He needs to realize when he is on, and adjust accordingly.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
12:47 pm

Ra’mon

doc, posted an indept article with his assessments on Horford’s shoulder that answers your questions. That was a lot of work and research there, so you may want to have doc, refer you back to that old blog post.

But, to answer your question? No.

Buddy Grizzard

April 30th, 2012
12:52 pm

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
12:52 pm

Playoff’s Playback!

NBA TV airing the Hawks – Boston game from 1 – 2 PM today. Direct TV CH 216. Imma’ watch the first quarter only.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2012
12:56 pm

“The “big glasses” look is awful. Do not understand why that is becoming so popular. It just screams “I’m trying really hard to look cool!””

Everything that was nerdy 15 years ago is cool now, apparently.

vava74

April 30th, 2012
12:56 pm

I love the “T-Mac with the starters” line up too.

I particularly loved how he got Pietrus – who is a good defender – flying out to the three point line with practically just an eyebrow wink… unfortunately instead of shooting the rock himself he passed to JJ for an open three who was ice cold all evening long.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2012
12:57 pm

“From our OWN fans, we get negative comments about how we gave up a good lead, how Boston had the chance and probably would have won had not Rondo got ejected, and how Joe Johnson ugly shooting night and his turn-overs cost us to lose the lead”

It’s not like we are not happy with the win. My voice is just starting to come back after last night. But we want a series win, not just a Game 1 win, and to do that the Hawks will have to do some things better. Pointing that out isn’t negativity.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 30th, 2012
1:01 pm

“5. Josh Smith will be frustrated trying to score inside against the Celtics defense and float to the perimeter, exactly where they want him.

Josh shot a lot from outside but you can’t argue when they are going in.”

They are not going to go in every game this series. I give Josh a lot of credit for improving his mid range jumper, which he has been hitting at a pretty nice clip the last two months, but they can’t rely on him for scoring in this series as long as KG is guarding him. Joe and Teague, possibly even Willie Green and Pargo off the bench, have to step up and carry more of the load.

O'brien

April 30th, 2012
1:22 pm

Ra’mon,

One thing we agree on. LD does not have a good feel for the game. He takes too long to call timeouts, takes too long to take an ineffective player out of the game, and takes too long to make the move that is obvious to many.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
1:22 pm

Ya Heard?

I just listened to Stern’s comments, what stood out was, “You are not allowed to touch the referee at all.”

If this is true, then Shawn Bradley shoild be looking at one game himself. When the Phoenix bench stepped over the white line in front of their bench, and never marched up court, they were all suspended one game versus the Spurs.

Stern don’t play with the rule book. Rondo is a repeat offender and may get more than one game in this second instance of the same violation. He need to be stopped before somebody get’s hurt.

vava74

April 30th, 2012
1:22 pm

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
1:46 pm

vava74, like the Celtics last night, you’re a step slow and behind the play. BuddyG already posted that link, almost an hour ago. LOL

Good looking out for us on your part though. LOL

KevinM

April 30th, 2012
1:54 pm

A ding on Mike Woodson from Ric Bucher: “We saw a lot of playoff teams in Atlanta that didn’t look prepared.”

doc

April 30th, 2012
1:54 pm

i’ll try dmb,

ramon, simple stuff dude. if a muscle isnt used it atrophies to next to nothing. if you dont use it you lose it. next, if you dont use it and it is immobile it stiffens up and contracts even if it is healthy which is what he had to do and remain immobile in a non functional position for six weeks, bathing sleeping having sex, you name it. what happens here is the flexor muscles tighten up, i. e. the biceps, to not allow the extensor, the triceps, to extend. that has to be done under manipulation and slowly strengthening the triceps back to normal. the bigger muscles take over. on top of that the operation itself is using soft tissue, like the beef you buy at the market with no integrity, sew it hoping when you attach it to the bone, it holds. now are you getting it? finally, the only way it “heals” is through tough scar tissue that must be broken down and remolded into something functional and resembling the real stuff. all the while the other healthy side is atrophying as well because you cant work it out to keep it strong. plus, there is obviously an energy imbalance between the two when you start using it.

now, if you got to grab a basketball and hold onto it or throw an arm up to block a shot and the mobility and strength is not there then what the f*ck good are you all the while risking a retear of the torn tissue while haviong garnett rip it out of your ams as you play the best conditioned athletes in the world? and yeah ramon you are doubting his toughness. the doc didnt serve him well to suggest he play at 70% and may show he doesnt know jack about competing at this level. certain injuries you can support and play on. some you cant are; an acl injury. did you see rose collapse when he got out as his femur slipped forward over his tibia?, an elbow repair, ever see a pitcher come back in shorter than one year? and another is a torn pectoralis. got it now?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/407371-torn-pectoral-muscles-from-basketball/

the stars of the game denigrated the game with their thoughts last night. i think that is why stern is making things clear without the judgement. he is saying you dont come close to a ref to even trip into them arguing a call.

rondo, too funny tripping. has anyone seen him go through traffic and not miss a beat during a game and he cant walk up to a ref without tripping?

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 30th, 2012
1:54 pm

Looks Like!

Looks like this Rondo guy will get more than just one game, otherwise we would have heard something on the east coast by now. A one gamer, would have been open and shut. I think they are factoring in the earlier infraction that occurred this seasn, when Rondo threw the ball at the same referee? (I heard on another blog, that it is the same ref). IDK that to be a fact, but, if it is … that’s probably what is taking so long, that and the fine amount.

Ra'mon

April 30th, 2012
1:57 pm

O’Brien, I wasn’t questioning Al’s commitment at all. To date, I just didn’t recall seeing Al ever having to play through an injury. And I remember seeing Josh and Joe play through injuries quite often. For instance, Kobe plays through injuries all the time, but I’ve never seen Vince Carter really play through an injury. Now do I question Al’s physical toughness? Of course, without a doubt I do. But his commitment, I don’t question that (and yes those are two different things). The injury Al suffered, isn’t an injury that occurs often in the NBA. If it would’ve been a leg injury (ACL or MCL), then I would’ve had a better understanding of it from being more familiar with it from a fan’s perspective, not a medical student’s perspective. Also, I didn’t know the exact date, but I did think the injury was closer to the beginning of January than the middle, that’s why I said 4-5 months. But even you stated that his given time was 3-4 months recovery, and this is 3 1/2 months now. So why wouldn’t I wonder if Josh or Joe (known fast healers – remember Josh’s Wolverine like article Sekou did seasons ago), would be able to play by now in spot duty with the same injury.

DrMaryb, I take breaks off the blogs sometimes now, after seeing a few say the same things, lol. So I regrettably missed Doc’s post. But in short terms, is it more so the pain or the strength in the muscle that is taking the longest to recover now?

O’Brien, when you have a 16 point lead, and it drops to 10-11 points with your starters on the bench, that is the time to take a timeout, buy your star players 3-4 minutes of rest, and then put at least one or two back in the game after that timeout. Also, it appears the bench doesn’t get out and run as much as the starters do. And I believe that is the reason why the bench struggled on last night.

Isn’t it funny how the media is saying that if Rondo doesn’t get ejected, the Celtics likely win that game? However, after the free throws, the Hawks go up by 7. If you take away the Joe Johnson’s tech free throw (he missed one), the Hawks are still up by 6, and you’re saying more than likely Boston (who was 0′for – from beyond the arc) hits two threes and gets three stops on defense without fouling.

By the way, if Marvin can’t guard Pierce or Garnett in this series, isn’t it better to have Vlad in sometimes?

doc

April 30th, 2012
1:57 pm

sorry o’b i see it was you who asked, kind of blended in on dmb’s comments. busy day in office.

KevinM

April 30th, 2012
1:59 pm

Those who went to the game last night: Did they show the Rondo bump to show that it was intentional?

Now I wonder if Doc thinks it was worth not making a big deal about HC?

It is huge in the playoffs. If anyone knows it, its us.

jay

April 30th, 2012
2:00 pm

I like the win last night. I think we will continue to have offensive lulls with Collins in the line up because he simply gives you nothing offensively. Running pick and rolls with him guarantees jumps shots. I will they’d do more round the horn type screens for Teague where he can come off the third or fourth screen and go towards the basket. Better yet, hopefully Zaza can come back to the line up by the time we get to game 3.

doc

April 30th, 2012
2:01 pm

najeh you are showing your age now, heh heh. get over it trends happen. btw, whatever happened to the beatles? good music man, back then, the new stuff sucks.