Atlanta Hawks: On Doc Rivers punting home-court advantage
“Whether they play in Boston, Atlanta or Tokyo, the Celtics are going to beat the Hawks.”
That’s what Charles Barkley said the other night. It’s also what Doc Rivers implied over the final two weeks of the season.
Wasn’t that the message when Rivers started resting his players with home-court advantage against the Hawks still at stake? Didn’t Doc send out his “C” team against the Hawks at Philips Arena–and nearly win the game anyway? Certainly Doc earned the psyops W at that moment when Joe Johnson trudged back into the game because Atlanta’s reserves couldn’t finish off the likes of JaJuan Johnson.
“That’s mental,” Josh Smith said. “He’s a great mental coach. He plays mental games with his players and the other team. He’s a great coach. He knows what his team can do.”
The Celtics didn’t have to go all-out to get home-court advantage, either. The Hawks opened the door with that ugly home loss to the Raptors. Doc just shrugged.
“I’m taking rest and rhythm over home court,” he said over and over.
The unstated implication, of course, is that the Celtics don’t think they need home-court advantage beat the Hawks.
“I’m not going to be politically correct: Yes, I am a bit offended by that,” Jannero Pargo said. “I think it also shows the confidence they have in themselves, which is a good thing for them. But, yeah, I feel some type of way about that. They feel like they are going to win the first round whether it’s here or there.”
I suppose Boston’s nonchalance about home court is understandable for a group with championship rings and three players headed to Hall of Fame. The Celtics are 13-22 in playoff road games since 2008 so it’s not as if they don’t know they can do it (though it’s worth noting is they didn’t win at Philips in 2008 when they were much better and the Hawks not as good).
I’m sure supreme confidence is the default disposition for a franchise that has nearly as many playoff victories in the last four years as the Hawks have managed since 1988.
“They’ve won a championship,” Jeff Teague said. “They’ve won on the road in the playoffs. They are confident. We are confident, too. We don’t take offense to it. They feel like they can win on the road.”
Larry Drew: “They won a championship with a team a few years ago and they have a core of guys that are used to playing on the road in big-time situations. I’m sure that doesn’t faze them at all. Being a veteran ballclub, I can see where health is probably a little bit more important than home court. For us, it’s totally different.”
I’m not one to throw shade on Doc’s approach with his team. Not many coaches are more in tune with what their players need. Perhaps it’s less about Doc taking the Hawks lightly and more that he felt he had no choice but to ease his guys into the postseason.
Still, Doc’s strategy is not without risk.
It starts with the math: According to the NBA’s postseason media guide, teams with home-court advantage have won 76.3 percent of series since 1984. The Celtics were a mediocre road team this season–even their surge to end the season included a loss at Toronto when they were actually trying to win. And if the Celtics expect they’ll get their usual robust support from fans at Philips Arena, they may be out of luck: word is the Hawks expect the ratio will be much more in the home team’s favor for Game 1.
Also, it’s not as if the Celtics have overwhelmed the Hawks this season. Boston is a poor offensive team and an even worse rebounding team.
In other words, the Celtics have plenty of warts for a team that seems so unconcerned about home-court advantage. But I’m all for playing this series in Tokyo.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
2:06 pm
There will be enough green in the stands of Philips Arena to make the Celtics feel at home.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
2:06 pm
If this series is anything like 2008, Celtics fans are not going to be heard from very much in Philips. The crowds at those games were as good as any I have seen at any sporting event, and definitely the best I have seen in person. Hawks gotta take advantage and hold on to home court, though.
MC, do you have any idea if Ray Allen will play this series? To me, he is the difference between the Celtics being a decent offensive team vs. a poor offensive team.
drmaryb.[*_*].
April 28th, 2012
2:11 pm
Banner Banter!
“After the Celtics end the Hawks season, I heard Danny and Doc are going to give the Hawks this years Celtics Division Champs banner as a consolation prize.” – what a sham!e -
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And, if the Hawks were in your division, they would give it back. The Hawks don’t want no division banner either. So, enjoy your consolation prize – you earned that with your play, it’s the only banner you will achieve this year, as it comes with an asterick* (no HCA).
Even if lucky enough to get past the HAWKS, you will not win a championship. Those days are over for the foreseeable future, so enjoy the 17 won in the past. Most, before you were probably born.
lal909
April 28th, 2012
2:11 pm
Hawks win in 6
jeppz23
April 28th, 2012
2:16 pm
Hawks got this thing in 6..
Philips might not be the best venue in the regular season, butt the ppl of Atlanta support this team well when the playoffs come around
drmaryb.[*_*].
April 28th, 2012
2:18 pm
Between the Lines!
This series will be played and won between the ears, and the court lines. Not, between the L and R margains of any blog pages.
LT
April 28th, 2012
2:18 pm
The Orlando Magic underestimated the Atlanta Hawks in the first round last year too and you see where that got them…… watching the remaing playoff games at home!
GO HAWKS!!!!!
rollo lawson
April 28th, 2012
2:22 pm
I get sick and tired of the national media penciling in Miami and Chicago foe the ECF. The Hawks should be tired of it too. If we play smart (Josh), take advantage of mis-matches (Bradley trying to guard Joe), play aggressively at all times (Teague), make the extra pass (Josh), and get T. Mac substantive minutes (Drew), we win this series.
I believe we need to re-insert Marvin into the starting line-up and send Hinrich to the bench.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
2:26 pm
Next summer the Celtics will sign Dwight Howard and Josh Smith to play with Rondo, Bradley and Jeff Green.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 28th, 2012
2:28 pm
Doc Rivers is arrogant when he wins but he cries like a female dog when he loses.
BIG IVAN FOR PRESIDENT
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 28th, 2012
2:30 pm
We have to drive to the basket and get Garnett into foul trouble. All them jumpers ain’t gonna cut it. Force them to play Sean Williams.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
2:30 pm
Doc Rivers often refers to his days with the Hawks as “The Dark Years”.
O'brien
April 28th, 2012
2:31 pm
FTPB,
Northcyde, Rod
I agree that the Hawks need to play defense and rebound to give themselves a chance to win. However, in the first 2 games against the Celtics this season, Hawks gave up 79 points in game 1, and 88 points in game 2, which went to OT. I don’t think defense was the problem. We only scored 76 in game 1, and 86 in game 2 (including 0 points in the OT period).
On the other hand, we scored 117 against Denver, and lost. Scored 109 against Miami, and lost. Scored 112 against the Knicks and lost.
And therein lies the problem (imo). The Hawks don’t have an identity, and will let their opponent dictate the tempo, and we respond accordingly. That is not a good recipe for playoff success. So who knows what to expect.
However, against these Celtics, i think it will be a low scoring series. Hawks will have to score the ball.
ClassicHawks
April 28th, 2012
2:35 pm
@Najeh, Yeah I was at Game 6 and the crowd was Epic! Best Experience at a Sporting Event I had ever been too, period. Kevin Garnett said he never heard Atlanta Crowd Sound like that. It was Amazing at old 100 Techwood Drive!
SWAT Native
April 28th, 2012
2:37 pm
Way too much is being made of this. If they had the HCA and Ray, KG and Pierce came in hobbling, they were way more likely to lose. Resting his players was Doc’s best shot. That said, they still almost got HCA – it came down to the final game.
I think this series comes down again to game 7. This time it’s in the Highlight Factory.
O'brien
April 28th, 2012
2:39 pm
As for the Josh Smith discussion, I think KG will be playing center. Therefore, if LD starts Josh at center, history suggests Josh could have issues going up agains KG in the post, and if that happens, he will take jumpers.
First Celtics game, Josh was 3-13 on jumpers outside the paint. Game 2, he was 8-15 on his jumpers from outside the paint.
We better hope he is making his jumpers.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
2:39 pm
The Highlight Factory?
tee hee hee
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
2:40 pm
Shamrock,
Can you show me a quote or link where Rivers said that. Also do you live in New England?Also how old are you?How loing you been watching Celtics?
GoCelts
April 28th, 2012
2:40 pm
I can’t wait to hear all the Go Celtcs chants at Phillips Arena tomorrow night!
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 28th, 2012
2:42 pm
I hope the Hawks sweep the Celtics
bbfan
April 28th, 2012
2:45 pm
For thoses old enough to remember, is Josh a better or equal player compared to sir Charles? During his era, I remember Charles as a good player, no where near great. If you listen to all the ish he talks, you would think he was in the league with, Jordan, Magic and Bird.
High-sider
April 28th, 2012
2:45 pm
I hope the Hawks’ starters and reserves can replace the explosive scoring and clutch free throw shooting of its “Boston Strangler” aka Jamal Crawford.
http://www.nba.com/statistics/index.html – see FT% stats
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
2:47 pm
Born, raised & live in Massachusetts, (not a Democrat so don’t blame me); I’ve been following the Celtics since they drafted Bird (I was at the game when Bird stole the ball…talk about loud!); and Doc Rivers never said such a thing (I made it up to bust balls).
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
2:51 pm
High-sider:
There was only one “Boston Strangler” and that moniker belongs to Andrew Toney of the old Philadelphia 76ers…well…I guess two, if you want to include Albert DeSalvo.
bbfan
April 28th, 2012
2:55 pm
Yeah, I’m sure Doc is alittle paranoid whenever he eats out in Boston, afterall, they did try to poison him the night before the shootout between Nique and Bird.
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
3:08 pm
Shamrock,
Ok. I know Mass very well have friends who live up there and went to college. I went to uconn myself in ct. you really think Celtics making the finals with the injuries you have right now?
Philly looks over matched and they stated they wanted the Bulls
Tootsi
April 28th, 2012
3:11 pm
” word is the Hawks expect the ratio will be much more in the home team’s favor for Game 1.”
MC, while I hope this is the case, how exactly can this be determined ahead of time? You don’t list your team affiliation when you purchase a ticket so I’m not sure how they can “expect” that the ratio will be better. However, as Najeh said, if it is anything like 2008, that will be HUGE advantage. In a book written after their 2008 title, the big 3 said it was the loudest and most hostile crowd they had ever experienced. We can only hope so.
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
3:11 pm
bbfan,
If Barkley was on this Hawks team, Hawks would be in the Finals.He is a better overall offensive player than Smith, Smith better help and individual defender and better athletically and legth
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
brigadierjerry:
The only way the Celtics make it to the finals is if there are key injuries to other teams.
Buddy Grizzard
April 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
Ivan Johnson is the Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month for April.
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
3:23 pm
Shamrock,
So then why are you on the Hawks blog trollin or more importantly would you be shocked if Atlanta wins this series?I dont see you if you do beat the Hawks getting past Chicago.
Anonymouse
April 28th, 2012
3:31 pm
@drmaryb.[*_*].
u mad bro?
IMA butthurt
April 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
A lot of butthurt in this thread
drmaryb.[*_*].
April 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
Rose goes down! Left knee ACL gone.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
3:37 pm
brigadierjerry
Why am I on a Hawks blog? Half the fun of being a sports fan is goofing on the opposing teams fans.
Would it “shock” me to see the Hawks win this series? Nothing would “shock” me…it might surprise me a little.
High-sider
April 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
Shamrock,
I know about Andrew Toney of the 76ers along with [Maurice] Cheeks, [Julius] Erving, Bobby Jones, Caldwell Jones, Darryl Dawkins, Clint Richardson, Earl Cureton, Steve Mix, etc. [I didn't remember Lionel Hollins, though; I was rather young back then ('80-'83).] Would you find it acceptable if I refer to Jamal Crawford as “Boston Strangler [Part] II [or III]“?
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
That ACL popped loose on the way up. Weak quads equals no explosion. Why was this guy playing hurt to begin with and, when the game was already won.
Do my cohorts still wanna’ see Horford walk through that door this season?
DawgNole
April 28th, 2012
3:39 pm
KevinM
April 28th, 2012
1:57 pm
And let me make a statement about being at Philips…..I have never been part of such a special time like that ‘07 run against the Celts. No one in that building was sitting down. That is going to be very hard to duplicate, but it is possible.
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“. . . that ‘07 run . . . .” Wasn’t that run in ‘08?
DawgNole
April 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
drmaryb.[*_*].
April 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
Rose goes down! Left knee ACL gone.
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That’s a shame. He’s had the injury bug since that brilliant season in ‘10-’11..
The announcers acted just now like they didn’t know for sure how bad it was.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
Well, we can check DRose and The Bulls off the list.
What more incentive do the HAWKS need, to finish off the old green people?
DawgNole
April 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
That ACL popped loose on the way up. Weak quads equals no explosion. Why was this guy playing hurt to begin with and, when the game was already won.
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Good question.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
A lot of depressed fans in Chicago right about now.
DawgNole
April 28th, 2012
3:46 pm
Just saw the clip on Rose. Doesn’t look good, the way it buckled.
DawgNole
April 28th, 2012
3:48 pm
I see ol’ Shamrock’s warming to the task, but where’s your help, man (other than GoCelts)? You’re gonna need ‘em.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
3:50 pm
High-sider,
Don’t mind me; I also don’t believe they should be calling Pierce, Garnett and Allen the “Big Three”; to me, there is only one “Big Three” and that is Bird, Parish and McHale.
High-sider
April 28th, 2012
3:57 pm
Buddy Grizzard
April 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
Ivan Johnson is the Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month for April.
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Even Ivan Johnson earns an individual [NBA] award ahead of Marvin Williams. At least, Ivan Johnson can put that [April 2012 Rookie of the Month award] on his NBA achievement list and toward his “legacy.”
zgoldatl
April 28th, 2012
3:58 pm
See y’all at theHighlight Factory. I’m going with the same buddy I went with for games 3,4, & 6 in 2008. Looking forward to as few Celtics fans as possible. Let’s get it Hawks
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:05 pm
“A lot of depressed fans in Chicago right about now.” -Sham!e-
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Boston fans will be next. Now that’s a sham-shame.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:14 pm
Just saw the replay on DRose injury. He planted the left foot and the outer knee bowed outward. Might be a LCL tear with a combo of medial meniscus tear. But, I’ll go with an ACL tear.
No point in x-raying that MOI, i would go straight to the hospital and get a CT-Scan on the knee,
NCBravesFan
April 28th, 2012
4:15 pm
Doc did the same thing a couple of years ago, did he not? Rested the starters down the stretch and traded regular season Ws for having a rested squad for the playoffs. And they ended up losing game 7 of the finals to the Lakers.
Can’t really fault him for that, or feel like it’s a slight against the Hawks … especially since this year’s team does not appear to be a strong as the ones of old.
Anyway, Go Hawks!
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:16 pm
I prefer CT-Scans on the head and knees over MRI’s. So many bones and the CT-SCAN can look around corners and, see from angles.
zgoldatl
April 28th, 2012
4:21 pm
Looking forward to seeing Ivan ”straight goon” Johnson, get under Garnetts skin. The man is a bully. Just what ATL needed in a backup big man. Let’s get Zaza healthy and get that nasty lineup of Zaza, ivan, Smoove, johnson, and teague on the court. Lets Go Hawks
RA
April 28th, 2012
4:23 pm
Well, I’m sure that with all of Charles Barkley’s championship experience, he knows best what’s going to happen in this post season. Oh, darn! Chuck never won a championship! Well, I guess we’re just going to have to play this thing out and see what happens…
High-sider
April 28th, 2012
4:25 pm
Who is LeBron James more similar to with respect to postseason success – Julius Erving or Karl Malone? Or is it too early to tell?
Julius Erving – great indivdual, athletic talent, won one NBA championship ['83 - 76ers], lost in the NBA Finals three times ['77, '80 and '82 - all with 76ers], did win two ABA championships ['74 and '76 - New York Nets]
Karl Malone – great individual, powerful talent, lost in the NBA Finals three times ['97 and '98 - Jazz and '04 - Lakers]
LeBron James – great individual, athletic and powerful talent, lost in the NBA Finals two times ['07 - Cavaliers and '11 - Heat]
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:26 pm
This dumb stuff is what happens when injured players try to play when not healthy. This is the NBA man!
I sure hope DRose is going to be ok. Fingers crossed, this kid is such a nice guy.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:29 pm
Lessons Learned!
When you are up 12 points and have 1:23 mins left? SIT YOUR STARTERS!!! in the play offs.
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
4:31 pm
Doctors Report Derrick Rose has a torn Mcl and Acl will miss the remainder of the playoffs and have surgery on Tuesday
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
4:32 pm
NO EXCUSE TO NOT MAKE THE EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS THIS YEAR
hawk_life
April 28th, 2012
4:36 pm
Does anyone know, or how I can find out, if we (hawk fans) are all wearing a color in support. I want to flush out any green. On a side note if we go into this post season with OUR game plan and execute OUR game plan we can blow past Boston. We just have tendency to play to the opponents level. We are better fast, and stronger if we use what we got.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:36 pm
That ACL tear test looked positive to me on the replay of trainer’s assessment exam.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
4:41 pm
Tim Donaghy would be proud of the officiating in this Knicks-Heat game. I have no love for New York teams, but if I was a Knicks fan in that crowd I would be throwing batteries right about now. This is pathetic. LeBron should be suspended for this acting job.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
4:42 pm
“Does anyone know, or how I can find out, if we (hawk fans) are all wearing a color in support. ”
Everyone gets a white tee if I’m not mistaken.
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
4:42 pm
LOL Najeh
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
4:43 pm
If that is true about D-Rose’s knee, I feel bad for the guy, but this might be the best opportunity to get to the conference finals the Hawks have ever had.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:44 pm
“Doctors Report Derrick Rose has a torn Mcl and Acl will miss the remainder of the playoffs and have surgery on Tuesday.”
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I knew two things tore, I was guessing medial meniscus with that ACL.
“Just saw the replay on DRose injury. He planted the left foot and the outer knee bowed outward. Might be a ACL tear with a combo of medial meniscus tear. But, I’ll go with an ACL tear.” -drmaryb-
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This is so awful for DRose. When that thing pops, it sounds like a gun shot.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:46 pm
This Heat game is rigged.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
4:47 pm
Najeh Davenpoop – “Everyone gets a white tee if I’m not mistaken.”
Fans can wave those as flags of surrender.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
4:50 pm
TMACfan – “NO EXCUSE TO NOT MAKE THE EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS THIS YEAR”
Step away from the pipe.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
4:52 pm
I can’t get too mad at you, Shamrock, since I go troll the Magic fans on the Orlando Sentinel blogs from time to time. The nice thing is that once the Celtics lose in the first round, the big 3 will be dismantled and the Celtics will have another 20 years of futility like they did after Bird retired. Shimmy shimmy ya shimmy yam shimmy yay.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 28th, 2012
4:55 pm
Flagrant Acting!
LBJ
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
4:56 pm
Najeh Davenpoop – “Celtics will have another 20 years of futility like they did after Bird retired.”
Of course the Celtics had great set-backs with the deaths of both Len Bias and Reggie Lewis…what is the Hawks excuse?
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
4:56 pm
@Shamrock
you’re are the coolest guy I’ve met on the internet. With no life.
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
5:04 pm
TMACfan – You mean I’m even cooler than all those dudes you meet on GayLove.com?
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
Glad I wasn’t trolling blogs when I was 12 years old.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
5:10 pm
Last year it was DRose spraining an ankle with a few seconds left to play down by 7(?) against the Hawks.
That must be a stupid quirk Coach TT has. Weird thing is, with 3:02 to play, I was thinking – “Why is Rose still in the game?”. Then “boom”.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
Another blowout for Woody in the playoffs.
prison mike
April 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
The NY Pricks are going to see why we loathe iso ball. They are going between ages until they can score.
AtlTodoLaVida
April 28th, 2012
5:17 pm
D. Rose is great, but the Bulls did great without him. The will still be the big favorite in round 2, be it vs. Hawks or Celts.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
5:19 pm
Woody, for his career, is 2-12 in playoff road games, and on average loses each game by 18 points.
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
5:20 pm
drmaryb,
good call on the Heat game u see James flopping like a chicken with his head cutoff.shumpert looks to be hurt now
Source?
April 28th, 2012
5:22 pm
“TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
4:31 pm
Doctors Report Derrick Rose has a torn Mcl and Acl will miss the remainder of the playoffs and have surgery on Tuesday”
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Nobody has reported anything yet.
Melvin
April 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
“Silas has expressed concern that Biyombo should move to power forward because he might not be big enough to hold up defending a steady diet of NBA centers. The 6-9, 245-pound Biyombo – toughest guy on this team – disagrees: “I’m a fighter, I like to fight. I prefer to be a center.” Charlotte Observer”
It would be nice if the Hawks had a 6′9 – 6′10 guy to say that…..
Time to Draft Better
April 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
The WAFFLE man is getting out coached in typical wody-like fashion. Still laughing at all of the analysts who think he should have retained his job just because regular season gains with the hawks when it was really nothing more than organic growth.
If the hawks were playing against the heat today we wouldnt be down by 25 in the 3rd. and thats without Horford and zaza. Game would definetly be close.
If rose is done, all we have to do is get past boston and we will make it to the ECF.
GO Hawks!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
5:24 pm
NBC Miami tweeted the info about Rose tearing his ACL and MCL. No independent confirmation of that report yet, though.
Melvin
April 28th, 2012
5:24 pm
No Slimjr and Knicks comments today?????
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
5:26 pm
Also, “ACL and MCL” is trending on Twitter. So whether it’s true or not, the Twitterverse has decided that Rose tore his ACL.
Melvin
April 28th, 2012
5:29 pm
Maybe, Bibby + Playoffs = Blowout Lost…. Or sub Bibby for Woody…
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
5:29 pm
I got the source from some ESPN dude on twitter.
Time to Draft Better
April 28th, 2012
5:36 pm
I don’t care what type of ISO it is. If it’s not Iso-kobe or Iso-MJ IT AINT GONNA WORK. Sorry, melo. And even they needed good players around them, The triangle offense, and oh-yeah….Phil Jackson.
Firing Mike D and promoting Woody was a huge mistake. Linsanity without Melo and STAT worked for reason. Those two iso-heavy airheads needed to get with the program. They did it for Team USE so theses not reason they should not have excelled in the seven seconds or less offense.
Time to Draft Better
April 28th, 2012
5:37 pm
*USA
UGAKev
April 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
I got tickets for the game tomorrow. Does anyone know if there are going to be rally towels or anything because I dont see it being advertised.
Source?
April 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
5:29 pm
I got the source from some ESPN dude on twitter.
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Who got it from NBC Miami. NBC Miami just retracted the tweet
Hawks notes: Ivan Johnson vows to keep cool – Atlanta Journal Constitution | The Time of Press
April 28th, 2012
5:40 pm
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bigdave
April 28th, 2012
5:43 pm
I’m telling u ‘poop.. dude should Definitely holla at vince mcmahon when he hangs em up. disgusting really.. dude couldn’t play in previous eras..
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
5:44 pm
No one is giving the Hawks a chance…. SMH
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
Samuel is in tears right now.
Joe Piskepo
April 28th, 2012
5:58 pm
Shamrock back in the mid-ninety’s I got a scholarship offer from Northeastern U. I didn’t go because I heard Boston was a miserable town. I was wondering did I miss out on a wonderful experience.
tank
April 28th, 2012
5:59 pm
@TMACfan. Nobody ever gives us a chance against anyone. Thats what happens when you dont have superstars and your team is up and down like the hawks. But as fans we got to support, and as injuries and different storylines take place (i.e. horrible, fixed officiating) teams that no one thinks have a chance will break through. (Hawks)
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
Bulls need to borrow Pierce’s magic wheelchair.
rob
April 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
First two games of playoffs=blowouts, noncompettivie
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
Joe Piskepo – If you’re a sports fan and you hung around for the first decade of the new century you would have had a ball.
rob
April 28th, 2012
6:05 pm
Shamrock, you live in ATL?
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
6:06 pm
rob – no, MA.
dagger
April 28th, 2012
6:12 pm
Shamrock why are you here?
Source?
April 28th, 2012
6:16 pm
peggy kusinski @peggykusinski
Close Source close to #Bulls Derrick Rose says as of 5pm cst Rose has Not had an MRI to confirm any injury to his left knee #breakingnews
soullrenaissance
April 28th, 2012
6:16 pm
New York just caught an old fashioned “Liberty City” beatdown in Miami.
So if Chitown loses this series and The Hawks win theirs, we get homecourt advantage in round two against the Sixer’s?
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
6:18 pm
Shamrock,
What part of MA do you live? i doubt Roxbury, probably Worcestor,Springfield
Source?
April 28th, 2012
6:23 pm
dagger
April 28th, 2012
6:12 pm
Shamrock why are you here?
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I live in Idaho, just come to feed the trolls.
dagger
April 28th, 2012
6:23 pm
“TMACfan – You mean I’m even cooler than all those dudes you meet on GayLove.com?”
Shamrock are you gay?
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
brigadierjerry – Why do you doubt Roxbury?
Shamrock
April 28th, 2012
6:27 pm
dagger – Don’t get your hopes up.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
6:28 pm
Multiple reliable people on Twitter confirming that Rose tore his ACL.
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
6:28 pm
Yeah he prolly is.
Source?
April 28th, 2012
6:30 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
6:28 pm
Multiple reliable people on Twitter confirming that Rose tore his ACL
___________________________________________________________
read this….
peggy kusinski @peggykusinski
Source close to #Bulls Derrick Rose says as of 5pm cst Rose has Not had an MRI to confirm any injury to his left knee #breakingnews
Big Lou
April 28th, 2012
6:30 pm
Derrick Rose is out for the rest of the playoffs with a torn ACL.
If the Hawks beat the Celtics… they just got an easier route to the ECF.
Source?
April 28th, 2012
6:30 pm
Spoke too soon
peggy kusinski @peggykusinski
#Bulls now confirm torn ACL for Derrick Rose – he’s out for the rest of the playoffs & more
Source?
April 28th, 2012
6:31 pm
Big Lou
April 28th, 2012
6:30 pm
Derrick Rose is out for the rest of the playoffs with a torn ACL.
If the Hawks beat the Celtics… they just got an easier route to the ECF.
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Good luck with that
High-sider
April 28th, 2012
6:31 pm
“Man down, man up.” – Bill Laimbeer
Rick Kamla of NBA TV just reported Derrick Rose [is] out for the remainder of the playoffs [torn ACL].
Big Lou
April 28th, 2012
6:32 pm
Sheafer reported it during the draft. He’s usually spot on about these things.
Big Lou
April 28th, 2012
6:32 pm
Adam Shefter*
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
6:33 pm
I think Shumpert has a torn MCL as well. Bad day of Chicago guards. Wade may need to hide before someone sweeps his leg like the Karate Kid movie.
Hawks have a chance to make some noise this playoff series and get to ECF. Hate to see players get hurt.
Please any team win except this ass clown studio gangster heat team
shamrock, u hood?
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
Like I said earlier, the Hawks may never have had a better chance to get to the ECF than they do now. Gotta take care of business. The Bulls are still formidable without Rose, just like the Celtics are without Allen, but they definitely don’t have a talent advantage anymore. The Hawks will have the two best players in a Hawks-Bulls series.
TMACfan
April 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
Hawks fans, keep it classy.
Don’t go troll the Celtics blog like Shamrock.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
6:40 pm
Not to mention, the deeper they go in the playoffs, the better the chance that Al Horford gets healthy enough to play. If the Hawks go 7 against the Celtics and advance, they may get Horford back in time to battle the second unit big men on whom Chicago will rely even more without Rose.
High-sider
April 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
I guess all the Hawks’ haters will [now] say it looks like it’s going to be [a] Celtics-Heat ECF this postseason. LOL
jeppz23
April 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
sad to see a kid like drose go down at the most exciting time of the year..best wishes for his recovery
But like Najeh said, the hawks opportunity to get to the ECF imo has never been larger..if they take care of the celtics, there’s no excuse for not being able to handle Chicago w/o their best player
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
6:44 pm
CJ Watson seems to get injured quite a bit when he has to be “the man” also. I like CJ alot – but he does have the injury bug it seems.
Bad news about Shump if he does have a knee injury. Probably any chance the Knicks had just went out the window. Shump is a great athlete, and at least makes guys work on O.
Landry on DWade or LeBron? Not so much.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
6:49 pm
I did like how LD a couple of articles ago was calling our top 3, JJ, Josh, and Jeff. Imagine that. Jeff goes from not finding the court and out of the rotation until Kirk is injured, to being top 3 for LD. Interesting.
Najeh – Agreed on a Bulls series if we make it – we have the top 2 players on the floor. But Josh has a difficult time with Boozer, and Deng gives Marvin fits.
That 4 Big rotation that the Bulls do is difficult for anybody to handle. And the jazz are doing the same thing. I think they give the Spurs a tough time.
dagger
April 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
“Why am I on a Hawks blog? Half the fun of being a sports fan is goofing on the opposing teams fans.”
Shamrock, so you’re not gay and you like to goof-off on the opposing team blog. So that makes you STRAIGHT GOOFER, huh? Since you’ve been on this blog over 4 hours, you must also be bored. That would make you a BORED STRAIGHT GOOFER.
In Georgia, another name for a BORED STRAIGHT GOOFER is a FOOL!!!
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
6:53 pm
Bulls vs Heat (which I hope doesn’t happen) – The Heat can’t stop Boozer, Noah, Asik, and Gibson with Bosh, Haslem, Turiaf, and Anthony. They just can’t. Even without Rose, I think the Bulls would give the Heat problems.
Gibson has been playing really good lately.
The Jazz with Jefferson, Millsap, Favors and sometimes Kanter have been beasting also. If Harris and Hayward can give them anything in the backcourt, they’re going to cause problems.
And I never count out a George Karl coached team for some reason. That guys good. If the Nuggets have some health, they may compete even when they shouldn’t. Bynum and Gasol should destroy them. But Karl is a very good Coach – always seems to come up with something.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
I don’t think Al will be battling any Bigs if he comes back. Off the pick jump shooter about it maybe.
And ya’ll know I’m one of Al’s biggest fans – but that’s just a fact
O'brien
April 28th, 2012
7:39 pm
3 more losses in a row (similar to what happened today), and the Hawks wont have the record for the most lopsided series loss in postseason history. Hawks were swept by an average of 25 ppg against Orlando. Knicks lost by 33 today.
Come on Woody. You can do it
soullrenaissance
April 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
WHOA!!! Joe Johnson said. “The main thing I want to do is try to bring a championship here to Atlanta. The city is well overdue. Why not give it a try?”
I have never heard that out anyone from this group – I like it.
soullrenaissance
April 28th, 2012
7:55 pm
Yeah Obrien. WOODY! WOODY!! WOODY!!! Carmelo and company will turn on him in a New York minute.
soullrenaissance
April 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
The Magic are putting up a bigger fight than any of us thought they would. They are up at the half against The Pacers.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
Iman Shumpert also tore his ACL. What slim chance NY may have had of pulling an upset or even taking the Heat to 6 or 7 games just vanished. Without Shumpert, they have no perimeter defender to make Wade and LeBron work.
soullrenaissance
April 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Slim JR – where u at pimpin?
Grandad
April 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Wdsn for COY
Sautee
April 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
Grandad does Samuel. LOL.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
Wow, Indiana looks like sh-t in this game.
soullrenaissance
April 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
Magic pulled off the surprise of the day – I guess having playoff experience goes a long way.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
In related news, this is the type of sh-t the Hawks absolutely cannot afford in Game 1. They have to come out and play well in the first game so that the crowd gets on their side. Can’t let the Celtics fans be heard.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
Chris Duhon busted out the Daunte Culpepper dance after Granger traveled on that crunch time play.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Called that Orlando game (kind of anyway) a few blogs ago – Just said I thought Orlando would play Indy tougher than people thought. Still had Indy winning the series however.
Big Baby is doing pretty good in the middle.
Jameer is still a proud vet, and still has some steam left.
J Richardson has some life left also.
And Duhon, QRich, JJ, Hedo, Anderson are ok pieces for what they do – no jealousy – everybody knows their role.
They can be dangerous. Ain’t gonna win much, no Championship threat i don’t think, but they may cause some problems. SVG may be ok in this situation.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
Jameer is probably better than Collison. Richardson may have some vet life and be as good as George. Hedo is long and may bother Granger. Same with Anderson and West (but was Ryan Anderson the result of a system or what? Not doing much since Dwight left that I’ve noticed).
And Baby can compete with Hibbert in the middle. Hibs always seems to run out of steam late in a season.
Baby, Jameer, and Hedo have Finals experience also.
David West may win this series for Indy if they win it.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
One thing this Hawks team has: Moxy
They got some guys with attitude in a good way. Teague jammin’ on folks. Ivan. ZaZa. Even Kirk can get an edge to him. Pargo is a gunner, so is Green. TMac has attitude.
I’m starting to feel this Hawks team. They may win this series. Maybe the next one also. JJ and Horford are just too nice to be all you got, along with Josh. And Jamal was skinny – he wasn’t scaring anybody. They may have needed this edge to kick some rear end if you know what I mean.
This team may give Miami a run for it’s money, you never know.
Maybe even Collins and Dampier can sumo wrestle Sean Williams, Stiemsa, and Hollins – get some attitude with them. They may even lay some hard fouls on Garnett.
Now if Marvin could get some attitude with Paul Pierce…
hbcuclassics
April 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
HBCU Classic Sports
2012 Draft Update:
Christian Thompson, S, SC State – Baltimore
Ryan Davis, DE/OLB, Bethune – Jacksonville
Mario Louis, WR, Grambling – Houston
Marquette King, P, FVSU – Oakland
James Dekle, G, Prairie View – Arizona
Kevin Elliott, WR, FAMU – Jacksonville
Demario Pippen, RB,Tuskegee – Denver
LaMont Bryant, TE, Morgan St – Baltimore
Bryan Tymes, TE, FAMU – San Francisco
Jared Green, WR, Southern – Carolina
Donovan Robinson, DE, Jackson St – New York Jets
Adrian Hamilton, DE, Prairie View – Dallas
Antonio Dennard, CB, Langston – Jaguars
Paul Cox, WR, Mississippi Valley St – Chargers
Nicolas Cooper, RB, Winston Salem St – Packers
http://www.hbuclassics.com
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
MC Tweet – “Joe Johnson on Philips Arena for #Celtics-#Hawks: “I know it’s going to be loud. I just hope it’s in our favor.”
Joe – I think it will be in our favor!!
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
Dallas may show some attitude and pride with OKC also…
And i don’t look at the Clips as the favorite in their series with the Griz. Should be a great series. I never count Chris Paul out if he has any semblance of help at all.
brigadierjerry
April 28th, 2012
10:54 pm
SteveW,
If the Hawks get to the ECF and get to play the Heat, they will get no calls. Did you see what went on in the 2nd quarter against the Knicks today?Not saying Knicks was going to win todays game but there were about 4-5 plays 2 by flops by James and what was a 6pt game turned into a 20 point game in about 2 minutes. If the Knicks cant get calls you think the Hawks will if they play the Heat?That was disgusting that 2nd quarter took all the steam out of that game
Section 303
April 28th, 2012
10:59 pm
I am so glad Barkley made that comment about the Celtics beating the Hawks no matter where the game is played. Can’t wait for that drunken a$$clown to have to eat his words.
If the Hawks can’t say they are offended by the complete dimissing of the team by everyone, then allow me. I’m offended for them. No way anyone who saw these two teams play this season can draw the conclusion that the Celtics are so, so, so much better than the Hawks. The d-bags on the ESPN/ABC Halftime Show have put the Celtics in the 2nd round, in stone.
Hope, for the first time since ‘08 Playoffs, we have an angry, p#ssed off crowd tomorrow night. The lack of respect shown to the Hawks is just crap. If this same team played in NYC, Chicago, or LA there would be talk of a possible title.
O'brien
April 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
With Dwight not playing, I am rooting for SVG. I would love to see the Magic beat the Pacers, just to see what the organization would do, in terms of whether or not they bring SVG back. .
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
11:07 pm
BJ – ATL will get no calls in any series, except possibly Indy or Orlando. Philly would be a media darling – we know about the knicks – Chicago of course – bigger market than the Hawks.
But the Big 3 is the NBA’s ticket to another level and they know it.
But we are different this year, at least to this point. I don’t think it would affect us as bad mentally.
LeBron -yeh, he got calls. He also played incredible. If LeBron plays like that, and the Heat get calls, Miami is extremely difficult to beat.
As it is, DWade (Or LeBron, maybe Bosh) almost has to go out with an injury for them to get beat in a series before the Finals.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
LeBron’s already the best player in the game (no offense Kevin), he doesn’t need the help he gets or the flopping he does.
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
OB – Me too
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
11:10 pm
Don’t look now, but Dallas is beating OKC…
Slimjr
April 28th, 2012
11:34 pm
Shoot.
MsDee
April 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
section 303,
Actually im not sure how Barkely, or anyone could automatically pencil in Boston to winning this series by 1) like KG mention earlier, Josh is playing his best season as a pro so far, esp since the ALL STAR, 2) we finished the season in 4th place (record wise) with all our KEY injuries, 3) in all the 3 games we played against Boston during the regular season, we lost both games a margin of 4 (lost by 3 in the 1st game and by 1 in the 2nd), 4) did i mention Josh is playing his best season of his career which will cause Boston to NOW double Josh, something they NEVER HAD TO DO IN THE PAST which will then leave Joe AND Teague open for jumpers/drives to the lane, 5) Boston KEY players are still banged up (Allen, Rondo, Peitrus, & KG ((old)), 6) Hawks play better when games are played close w/o much rest in between while Boston have been resting their guys alot lately, & last but not least, WE HAVE HOME COURT ADVANTAGE!! So whether we win or lose, I STILL cant see how BOSTON AUTOMATICALLY WINS SERIES..Im confused!
DawgNole
April 28th, 2012
11:57 pm
MsDee
April 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
section 303,
Actually im not sure how Barkely, or anyone could automatically pencil in Boston to winning this series by 1) like KG mention earlier, Josh is playing his best season as a pro so far, esp since the ALL STAR, 2) we finished the season in 4th place (record wise) with all our KEY injuries, 3) in all the 3 games we played against Boston during the regular season, we lost both games a margin of 4 (lost by 3 in the 1st game and by 1 in the 2nd), 4) did i mention Josh is playing his best season of his career which will cause Boston to NOW double Josh, something they NEVER HAD TO DO IN THE PAST which will then leave Joe AND Teague open for jumpers/drives to the lane, 5) Boston KEY players are still banged up (Allen, Rondo, Peitrus, & KG ((old)), 6) Hawks play better when games are played close w/o much rest in between while Boston have been resting their guys alot lately, & last but not least, WE HAVE HOME COURT ADVANTAGE!! So whether we win or lose, I STILL cant see how BOSTON AUTOMATICALLY WINS SERIES..Im confused!
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Don’t be confused. It’s all about history. Until the Hawks prove they CAN do it in the playoffs, they’ll get no respect. They have a golden opportunity now to prove that they CAN. Let’s see if they take advantage of it.
Julius
April 29th, 2012
12:04 am
Celtics vs Heat Conference Finals book it.
Celtics beat hawks in 5 book it.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:06 am
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
One thing this Hawks team has: Moxy
They got some guys with attitude in a good way. Teague jammin’ on folks. Ivan. ZaZa. Even Kirk can get an edge to him. Pargo is a gunner, so is Green. TMac has attitude.
I’m starting to feel this Hawks team. They may win this series. Maybe the next one also. JJ and Horford are just too nice to be all you got, along with Josh. And Jamal was skinny – he wasn’t scaring anybody. They may have needed this edge to kick some rear end if you know what I mean.
This team may give Miami a run for it’s money, you never know.
Maybe even Collins and Dampier can sumo wrestle Sean Williams, Stiemsa, and Hollins – get some attitude with them. They may even lay some hard fouls on Garnett.
Now if Marvin could get some attitude with Paul Pierce…
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Cool your jets, SteveW. You’re letting your heart get in the way of your brain. What you’re saying makes perfect sense, but you’re talking about a team that has a long and painful history of playoff failure. I agree, the Hawks SHOULD win this series with Boston, but . . . .
Slimjr
April 29th, 2012
12:08 am
Miami in 4
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:12 am
Section 303
April 28th, 2012
10:59 pm
I am so glad Barkley made that comment about the Celtics beating the Hawks no matter where the game is played. Can’t wait for that drunken a$$clown to have to eat his words.
If the Hawks can’t say they are offended by the complete dimissing of the team by everyone, then allow me. I’m offended for them. No way anyone who saw these two teams play this season can draw the conclusion that the Celtics are so, so, so much better than the Hawks. The d-bags on the ESPN/ABC Halftime Show have put the Celtics in the 2nd round, in stone.
Hope, for the first time since ‘08 Playoffs, we have an angry, p#ssed off crowd tomorrow night. The lack of respect shown to the Hawks is just crap. If this same team played in NYC, Chicago, or LA there would be talk of a possible title.
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I’m with you all the way, buddy, but you can’t objectively question why the “experts” pick against the Hawks. Just look at what they’ve done for the past XX years in the playoffs. Hopefully this is finally the year we prove those “experts” wrong.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:15 am
SteveW
April 28th, 2012
11:10 pm
Don’t look now, but Dallas is beating OKC…
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Don’t look now, because it’s anybody’s game.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:18 am
Julius
April 29th, 2012
12:04 am
Celtics vs Heat Conference Finals book it.
Celtics beat hawks in 5 book it.
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No respect. No respect at all.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:20 am
Thunder.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 29th, 2012
12:25 am
Roddy White @roddywhiteTV Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I play for the Atlanta falcons not the hawks they are my second team but Boston is my team
Julius
April 29th, 2012
12:25 am
No respect for the hawks.We almost beat them with are bench players lol.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 29th, 2012
12:25 am
Kevin Durant is cold blooded. Crazy shot.
Section 303
April 29th, 2012
12:29 am
Najeh, I saw that Roddy White tweet. In fact, came on here to share it with the group. You beat me to it. Anyways….F*** him.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:32 am
Julius
April 29th, 2012
12:25 am
No respect for the hawks.We almost beat them with are bench players lol.
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Just hang around awhile, Julius.
TMACfan
April 29th, 2012
12:34 am
GUYS GET ON TWITTER
Fake Rick Sund trolling sooo hard on Rody White
https://twitter.com/#!/fakericksund
Section 303
April 29th, 2012
12:41 am
TMACfan, that’s great stuff! Go, FakeRickSund, go! I like the line about “you dropped the ball on that pick, but you’re used to that”.
Section 303
April 29th, 2012
12:44 am
If Roddy White played in Detroit and made that tweet against the Pistons on the eve of a playoff series….good luck to him. Too bad we do not live in a more passionate sports town.
I hope Roddy White has a bad day tomorrow.
TMACfan
April 29th, 2012
12:53 am
FakeRickSund linked this video to Roddy White
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wME3JcIbQOk
Big Daddy
April 29th, 2012
1:49 am
The Hawks have a chance here. If Josh has a problem inside and can hit a few jumpers, it is going to pull Garnett out to guard him. It is then going to be on either Marvin to drive to the basket and get Pierce in foul trouble or Jeff to drive on Rondo. Garnett has proven to get into foul trouble when challenge and that is why Josh needs a touch almost every time down the stretch. He has been 2nd or 3rd in assists in the last several games and he can make the difference.
The real issue here is going to be between Doc and LD. The Hawks are going to depend on LD coming up with plays that will give isolation without a whole lot of dribbling. That will just waste time. Doc has the edge here but if LD wants to really put his stamp on this team, this is his opportunity. He better be ready.
Let's get the 6th Seed
April 29th, 2012
1:53 am
Magic beat pacers without dwight. So Najeh still convinced that playing the pacers is worse than playing the celtics. Come on man, It was clear we should have tanked and played them. Wont say I told you so until we get our ass kicked tonight,
Julius
April 29th, 2012
1:54 am
The hawks have no chance at all. Its ok though I’m sure the falcons will the playoffs again this year.Lose in the first round of course cause of matty choke.
soullrenaissance
April 29th, 2012
2:06 am
Julius – Crystal Meth is a helluva drug. Come on get off it. The Celtics should be real shook right about now.
paul
April 29th, 2012
2:24 am
Big deal. Doc rested the starters, so what. Clearly he was still trying to get homecourt advantage. He wanted both advantages, but only got rest. The Mavs blew it big time for him. Who cares? We celts fans think we can win on the road. They CAN win on the road. These teams are pretty evenly matched. Homecourt doesn’t really matter. May the best team win
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
5:50 am
My series prediction is posted here:
http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2012/04/3-on-3-wherein-gang-previews-series.html
Celtics in 6.
Ole Hawk's Fan
April 29th, 2012
7:39 am
Where was the guy who give play by play on this blog about the 76ers? Woody never changes I see. I hope Knicks bring him back for next season. WHERE IS THAT 76ers PLAY BY PLAY BLOGGER?
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:07 am
DawgNote, how about the ‘07-08 team in the ‘08 playoffs?
Is that better?
Looks like the road for Miami is getting easier every day. There shouldn’t be any Bulls/Hawks series chatter on here until the Hawks prove they can handle a team that is heading downhill.
And Al will be needed going forward, but Zaza will be the missing piece for this series. I don’t expect him back though.
So I guess if Allen is hurt, then its a wash and we have ourselves an even series…..expect ugly 1/2 court games because we seem to have to match up to the Boston’s talent as opposed to them matching us.
I can’t wait to see the hidden strategies that LD has been hiding from Boston. I bet they are good!
Can I guess Marvin is the secret weapon?
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
8:09 am
Dropping like Flies!
“[Rose: 'I heard something pop' | Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau reacts]”
Pop goes the weasel! Yeah man, that thing sounds like a olive green Pinto hatchback – back firing. KaPOW! Everybody in the hood would duck.
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Then Iman Schumpert tears his ACL and lateral meniscus. That’s just nasty.
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Who’s next? Maybe someone on the Celtics goes down.
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:10 am
Is this a 2-3-2 series or is this 2-2-1-1-1?
Sounds like the latter, but i dont expect the Hawks to win any games in Boston?
SteveW
April 29th, 2012
8:15 am
Knees – Weird thing is on both plays, it didn’t look like anybody made any contact with Rose or Shump. Is it the crazy schedule, lack of stretching, or what?
Doc’s plan probably:
Besides the Pietrus on JJ and Garnett/Bass giving Josh Jumpers look, his other top priority will/should be:
Hammering Teague when he gets into the lane. I’m sure Doc has given instructions to maul Teague when he drives.
SteveW
April 29th, 2012
8:19 am
How we beat them:
Gotta have Marvin/JJ Step up massive D on PP
Lay off Rondo a little bit – He can’t beat you with his J or with his FT’s. But he control’s the tempo of the game about as well as anybody. And I like his moxy.
We gotta have somebody that can keep Bass/Garnett from controlling the paint on both ends of the floor.
And we gotta play smart. Josh in the low post – ball movement – just smart, tough bb.
And we have a real chance to win.
SteveW
April 29th, 2012
8:20 am
Fouling Garnett out like we did that one game is a good idea….
SteveW
April 29th, 2012
8:20 am
Steimsa may not hit 3 J’s like he did that last game…
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:25 am
Buddy, read your predictions and can’t see the Hawks closng out in Boston.
I’ll go with G-Dad’s Russell curse reminder because history shows we have nothing on our side. This team has been together for how long and now they’re in their prime? As much as i want to offer that we have the capability. that capability somehow seems to go away when:
1) we play teams over .500
2) when we are on national TV
There’s a reason there is so much skepticism by the media; its because the Hawks always back it up.
And Buddy, when someone says a key to the game is Marvin’s rebounding? Well, all credibility dries up right there.
Marvin is a key to this series? The only key Marvin has is the one that stores all that cash he’s stolen over the years. If you get 10/5 in 25 min, then consider the fact that you saw Marvin on one of his better nights.
Spud Webb
April 29th, 2012
8:34 am
I know this is a little late, but Barkley was never a great player. He was a hot head and a good player but he is way over opinionated and trash talking that he should be based on his actual performance and value on the court during his playing days. Smith at 26 is better than Barkley was at 26.
justahawkfan
April 29th, 2012
8:51 am
Charles Barkley must have suffered one of his many arrest in the city of Atlanta. Is where all the hate come from?
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:58 am
Spud, Barkley at 26 was way beyond Josh. He was on the Dream Team! Come on, now.
Barkley averaged 25/11 at age 26….Josh is good, Barkley was great in comparison.
Now, if its because of the people around him, you have a valid point there. Barkley had greatness around him, and Josh had Woody and Billy Knight. Josh still has medicrity around him and that could be a reason he isn’t reaching that pinnacle of greatness. That would have valid points for Josh.
If Josh is smart, he gets to a team that has greatness. If he stays here, he will always be no better than 2nd best to Dominique in Atlanta. Josh would have to get us to the ECF and be an annual all-star participant going forward.
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
9:00 am
“When someone says a key to the game is Marvin’s rebounding? Well, all credibility dries up right there.”
Why? Marvin is 9th in the NBA among small forwards in rebound rate.
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
9:03 am
Among small forwards playing in the playoffs right now, only Shawn Marion, Matt Barnes, LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant posted higher rebound rates than Marvin this year.
cdog
April 29th, 2012
9:06 am
atlanta fans are a disgrace to atlanta and the NBA,.atlanta doesn’t need a pro team. they are stupid and don’t know how to have an NBA team. ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IS GRIN, ACT STUPID AND CHEER FOR THE OPPOSING TEAM. MOST ARE WANNABES WHO HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING IN SPORTS
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
9:17 am
The last three times the Hawks beat the Celtics in the playoffs, these were Marvin’s numbers:
April 26th, 2008:
24 minutes, 4-for-8 shooting (5-for-5 on free throws) for 13 points with 6 rebounds.
April 28th, 2008:
22 minutes, 2-for-4 shooting for 8 points (4-for-4 on free throws) with 2 rebounds. He did have 4 turnovers in that game.
May 2nd, 2008:
28 minutes, 6-for-9 for 18 points (6-for6 on free throws), 4 rebounds
brigadierjerry
April 29th, 2012
9:31 am
drmaryb,
dont say that you wish an injury to the Celtics team. I hope that was in jest. What is your prediction for this Hawks Celtics series if Allen doesnt play?Sounds like he may not be playing tonights game
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
April 29th, 2012
9:35 am
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
9:03 am
Among small forwards playing in the playoffs right now, only Shawn Marion, Matt Barnes, LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant posted higher rebound rates than Marvin this year.
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Marvin’s rebounds come against 2nd units
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
April 29th, 2012
9:37 am
Who’s next? Maybe someone on the Celtics goes down.
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this is just wrong
TeamRondo
April 29th, 2012
9:59 am
Did it ever occur to any of you or your team’s coach that the Celtics are old and injured(Rondo back, Pierce toe, Ray Allen ankle)? Of course they’re going to rest their starters. Home court is overrated too.
JSS
April 29th, 2012
10:40 am
“there is only one “Big Three” and that is Bird, Parish and McHale”
Ha, you mean Jones, Russell, and Havelick… That was a big three!
Sautee
April 29th, 2012
10:46 am
Yes, Barkley is too mouthy, but to say that Josh at 26 is better than Barkley at 26 is totally absurd.
And the idea that Barkley had more help is equally as absurd. His best teammates when he was 26?
Mike Gminski, Ron Anderson, Cliff Robinson, Hersey Hawkins, an old Mo Cheeks, and an even older Gerald Henderson.
I’d take Josh’s teammates over that group any day.
BIG DOG
April 29th, 2012
10:54 am
Time to rise up Hawks Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
April 29th, 2012
10:56 am
Teague, Joe, Josh, Ivan, Collins
Pargo, Green, Tmac, Marvin, Dampier
would sweep Celtics
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
April 29th, 2012
10:58 am
Josh would shut down Pierce
Ivan would shut down Kevin
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
soullrenaissance
April 29th, 2012
11:06 am
Hawks in 6.
I feel like will will eek out a victory in Beantown.
This is Ali versus Liston all over again. As the 08 Playoffs proved, sometimes its good to be overlooked and written off albeit, this time we brought it on ourselves with lackluster play in downright embarrassing fashion on nationally televised games this year.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
11:23 am
Briggs, GM-JeJe:
Ha Ha … no, I really don’t want anyone on the Celtics to be hurt so, when we beat them, I don’t want to hear any excuses.
I just know that the Celtics have a ton of injuries right now and, when you play injured it causes the injury to worsen of things begin to snap loose like ACL’s.
Briggy Bear, I believe that when a large group of muscles like the ones in the thigh (quadriceps and hamstrings) are contracted, (flexed and pulling) on the joints, then the ligaments will roll up like a lamp shade and pop loose.
DRose just came back too soon from his injury and was over played by his coach and trainers. He should not have been playing the last 1:23 of a game that was clearly already won. Coach Thibbs was just being greedy and, was trying to demoralize his opponent. Look what that ego cost him.
Coaaches who try to run up the score on people is not showing sportsmanship characteristics. IMO
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
11:32 am
*typos galore
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
April 29th, 2012
11:37 am
zaza broke something…damn marvin try not falling down on the floor all the time and you wont hurt your teammates
Mr Beantown
April 29th, 2012
11:39 am
Celtics will win this series and against the Philly-Bulls winner. They may just go to the finals. They give Miami major problems. They just sign Sean Williams. A shot blocker and rebounder like steisma. Doc did a great job resting the veterans. Celtics will have a lot of fans in Phillips arena but there will be more Hawks fans.
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
11:46 am
Sautee, its not about who Barkley’s teammates were at 26….its who he learned from as he came into the league. By the time he was 26, he was the leader of that team without doubt or question.
Barkley was a 1st team all-star by that time.
Can Josh climb to elite level going forward as fast as Barkley? i say he can become an all-star, but he won’t sniff the 1st team.
He has to play elite for us to beat Boston……he takes on more roles than this team has elite starters.
My favorite Hawk is Josh and I like how he Jeff and Joe are playing together. We have a shot to ’stun’ the critics.
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
11:48 am
Buddy, you put Marvin on Pierce and we are in trouble. Marvin averages 5 rpg and you cant twist those ‘nimbers’.
Keep his minutes limited to the 2nd unit and we’ll be happier with the results.
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
11:49 am
“DRose just came back too soon from his injury and was over played by his coach and trainers.”
Thibs may be CoY but leaving Rose in a decided game was the dumbest coaching move of the year.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
11:54 am
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:07 am
DawgNote, how about the ‘07-08 team in the ‘08 playoffs?
Is that better?
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I assumed you were referencing the 7-game Hawks-Celtics playoff series in ‘08. I questioned it only because you said ‘07.
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
11:55 am
KevinM, how am I trying to twist the nimbers? Rebound rate is the percentage of rebounds that are available when a player is on the floor that the player goes and gets. When Marvin is on the floor, he’s one of the 10 best rebounding small forwards in the NBA. Among small forwards in the playoffs, he’s top 6.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
April 29th, 2012
11:56 am
Miami’s first 2 rounds will be far easier than Chicago’s. They will sweep that wack Knicks team. Curious how they’d do of Indy advances.
Lol @ updates on Lin injury. There will be no rd 2 for NYK. don’t risk bringing him back early
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
11:59 am
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:10 am
Is this a 2-3-2 series or is this 2-2-1-1-1?
Sounds like the latter, but i dont expect the Hawks to win any games in Boston?
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It’s the latter. Hawks will have a tough row to hoe in Boston, with their fans, the refs, etc.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:01 pm
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:25 am
. . . history shows we have nothing on our side. This team has been together for how long and now they’re in their prime? As much as i want to offer that we have the capability. that capability somehow seems to go away when:
1) we play teams over .500
2) when we are on national TV
There’s a reason there is so much skepticism by the media; its because the Hawks always back it up.
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My sentiments exactly.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:08 pm
KevinM
April 29th, 2012
8:58 am
Spud, Barkley at 26 was way beyond Josh. He was on the Dream Team! Come on, now.
Barkley averaged 25/11 at age 26….Josh is good, Barkley was great in comparison.
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Barkley was a remarkable player and a rebounding animal–especially considering his bulk (252) and relative lack of height (6′6″). He averaged 22 and 12 over his pro career.
Spud’s memory is suspect at best.
DawgNole
April 29th, 2012
12:18 pm
TeamRondo
April 29th, 2012
9:59 am
Did it ever occur to any of you or your team’s coach that the Celtics are old and injured(Rondo back, Pierce toe, Ray Allen ankle)? Of course they’re going to rest their starters. Home court is overrated too.
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Homecourt might be overrated, but the numbers alone–particularly in the Hawks’ case–tell you all you need to know about how important it was for ATL to earn HC advantage.
Whether they’ll be able to do something with it is against the Celts another story.
Vino
April 29th, 2012
12:19 pm
Teague, Joe, Josh, Ivan, Collins
Pargo, Green, Tmac, Marvin, Dampier
would sweep Celtics
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
you tottaly right we will have advantages evrywhere
sit hinrich or play him sparingly like we did teahue last year in the first round
Vino
April 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shamrock
April 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
Josh Smith is feeling good after sleeping in his lucky Celtics jersey last night.
Shamrock
April 29th, 2012
12:31 pm
Joe Johnson has to leave early for the arena because he has to first stop at Dunkin’ Donuts to pick up coffee and donuts for Paul Pierce.
Buddy Grizzard
April 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
You seen him wear his Celtic green headband Shamrock?
Shamrock
April 29th, 2012
12:34 pm
I heard that Rondo is getting sick of Jeff Teague begging him for his autograph.
soullrenaissance
April 29th, 2012
12:36 pm
Nothing can stop us!
http://youtu.be/mfXYyCJYY40
check out Doc River’s Stevie or Ray Charles impression at 3:53.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
12:51 pm
How far can we really go without any centers? I wish we had more medical information regarding Zaza’s foot.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
12:53 pm
Shamrock
Good Afternoon buddy, but do you have anything insightful to say about the serie? You sound like a child on here, do the Celtics have a blog for you to go play on?
Shamrock
April 29th, 2012
12:54 pm
ESPN just ran an interview with Paul Pierce, I heard the let Josh Smith operate the camera for it.
Vino
April 29th, 2012
12:54 pm
Hey BIG DOG Chill out wit that RISE UP STUFF NO AFFLIATION WIT DA FALCONS
Vino
April 29th, 2012
12:57 pm
you didnt over hear rondo tell rose ill see you in the second round…. we all know what happen
Shamrock
April 29th, 2012
1:12 pm
drmaryb.(*_*) , I obviously have no insight into this game, I actually give the Hawks some chance at winning this series, unlike all the professional analyst, they are discussing the Celtics chances against the depleted Bulls, without mention of the Hawks.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 29th, 2012
1:16 pm
Time to shut these Boston fans up. After we beat them Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen can retire.
BIG IVAN FOR PRESIDENT
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 29th, 2012
1:20 pm
Celtics fans like to come on our blog just like Celtics fans like to move to our city. Get your own sh**.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 29th, 2012
1:24 pm
Big Ivan ain’t gonna let Rondo drive to the basket. If Rondo comes into the lane he’s gonna get put flat on his back.
BIG IVAN FOR PRESIDENT
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
Spurs Reoccur!
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“Allen needs postseason ankle surgery
Link|Comments (1)Posted by Gary Washburn Globe StaffApril 28, 2012 08:11 PM
By Gary Washburn, Globe Staff
WALTHAM — Ray Allen revealed Saturday that he will need offseason surgery to remove bone spurs from his right ankle, the same procedure he underwent in 2007 on both ankles just months before joining the Celtics.
Allen missed the last nine games of the regular season and is questionable for Sunday’s Game 1 of the Eastern Conference first-round playoffs against the Atlanta Hawks. He said he underwent a cortisone shot Thursday but it is only delaying the inevitable.
“I know it’s weak but I still have pain in it,” he said. “It feels better. If I could I would get surgery tomorrow. If it was the beginning of the season, I would have surgery. It’s just inevitable talking to a couple of different doctors.” -Ray Allen-
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DawgyNole, this is what you and I were discussing earlier this week. Treating symptoms with surgery does not address the root causes. Therefore, the symptoms always reappear. From this article here, Ray Allen had this same surgery on both ankles in 2007 when, he joined the C’s.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
Looking Ahead!
“drmaryb.(*_*) , I obviously have no insight into this game, I actually give the Hawks some chance at winning this series, unlike all the professional analyst, they are discussing the Celtics chances against the depleted Bulls, without mention of the Hawks.” -shamrock-
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Shamrock, ha ha …you are a funny kid. You are right about the celtic’s fans looking ahead. I just visited several blogs and on the SBNation Blog, they are all picking their western conference opponent. One guy said he hopes to play the Spurs for a title.
What about the C’s getting out of the east and, beyond the Bulls and Heat? The Bulls should not be totally overlooked because there is no Rose.
But, Shamrock, beginning today the C’s have to first get past an evenly matched Hawks roster. When we get Zaza back, it’s on! Just look at the record.
The hawks and Celtics are the #4 and #5 team. The seedings don’t tell the whole story because we have HCA. The C’s road record is 13 – 18 and The Hawks are 17 – 16. Barkley said this his first year on TNT, “The good teams win overwhelmingly at home and .500 on the road.” The C’s have not done that this year. The Hawks have, injuries notwithstanding.
drmaryb.(*_*).
April 29th, 2012
1:42 pm
Another Missed Opportunity!
Sund should have gotten Boris Diaw for the SF spot when he had the chance at the trade deadline.
A bigger missed opportunity was not getting Kaman, when the whole world knew Horford was gone for the year.
CamiloAtlanta
April 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
We’ve lost all six playoff series to Boston. Something’s gotta give. This year, our time to shine. Go Hawks. Bye Celtics, too old now. Sorry dreamers who think otherwise.
Michael Cunningham
April 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.
Game 1: Sifting through the Issues. | Boston Celtics
April 30th, 2012
12:55 am
[...] The Celtics came out flat, and the Hawks were clearly energized by their home crowd. In addition, the fact that the Celtics were so intentionally apathetic about home court (sending the JV squad to Atlanta last Friday despite only being one game behind the Hawks in the standings) cannot have played well in the Hawks’ locker room and probably only added fuel to the “nobody believes in us” fire. Jannero Pargo confirmed that this weekend. [...]
Game 1: Sifting Through The Issues | Boston Celtics
April 30th, 2012
1:10 am
[...] The Celtics came out flat, and the Hawks were clearly energized by their home crowd. In addition, the fact that the Celtics were so intentionally apathetic about home court (sending the JV squad to Atlanta last Friday despite only being one game behind the Hawks in the standings) cannot have played well in the Hawks’ locker room and probably only added fuel to the “nobody believes in us” fire. Jannero Pargo confirmed that this weekend. [...]