Atlanta Hawks: Video: Hawks finish strong

Here is my video report following Atlanta’s 106-89 victory over the Mavs in the regular-season finale.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat



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doc

April 27th, 2012
11:04 pm

yeah dn, it is and was fun to watch it happen as i just planted a very small seed in talking to her about archetypes and briefly on jung and she took off and ran with it and no more discussion.

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:04 pm

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
10:52 pm

Dawgnole – I still say you could save alot of time and say to anything posted on this blog:

“It doesn’t matter because we have never won more than 1 playoff series since the Hawks have been in ATL.” We can call this “1″.

So then whenever someone says anything on this blog, you can just type the # “1″ in, and us regulars will know that you mean it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans because we have never won more than 1 playoff series in a year.

Deal?

Or what is that definition of insanity that if you do the same thing over and over again and expect different results? (And I know you can say this about the Hawks, but still…).

So you say the same thing every day ad infinitum, and it won’t change a thing. Hold ASG’s feet to the fire? That’s a laugh. They either make money here, or they move the team to a city that wants one, and make a boatload more. Nothing you can do about it at all, unless your a billionaire, which I highly doubt since you waste a good part of you life saying the same thing dozens of different ways, instead of enjoying life.

Blessings man!
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You forgot to report back to us how many years you counted.

I say the same thing because postseason success IS what matters–and after 44 years of failure, it’s ALL that matters.

And I NEVER said I expected anything different because I absolutely do not. Have your posts, which number far greater than mine since you’ve been on here far longer than I, resulted in anything different for the Hawks? Hell no, so perhaps you should save your own self some time and keep your worthless (in terms of changing the Hawks fortunes) thoughts to yourself.

Deal?

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:12 pm

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
11:04 pm

Dude – we got the point about 7,000 posts ago – ATL and all of it’s fans are worthless scumbags because we haven’t won more than 1 playoff series in 49 years, or is it 47, or 44 or whatever number i decide to make up to make it sound better.
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Don’t put words in my mouth, loser. And don’t forget to report back how many years you counted from 1968 to 2012.

doc

April 27th, 2012
11:15 pm

well everyone excited about kng knoz selection.

man the guy has had bilateral pulmonary emboli, what is with that? that is not a good sign if that was a primary problem. was it after an orthopedic procedure? life threatening stuff there. many end up in morgues with that type of illness.

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:19 pm

Now Dawgnole – Since I think I could get a 4 year old to type, “We haven’t won more than 1 playoff series since 1968″ and “If you disagree with me you are a hopeless loser and part of the problem”, maybe a better idea for you, since we obviously get your point, and got it the very first time you ever posted on this blog, is for you to propose valid ways for us to get better.

Or to give valid insights on the games.

Or something along those lines.

Somethings besides “1″.

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:19 pm

doc
April 27th, 2012
10:57 pm

as a doctor, i dont trust anything that has libel in it.
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It’s actually a very useful publication–and does a great job of helping writers understand and avoid publishing libelous words/statements.

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:22 pm

Dawgnole – you said – “Don’t put words in my mouth, loser. And don’t forget to report back how many years you counted from 1968 to 2012.”

Nobody wants to put any more words in your mouth, you got plenty, even though it’s the same thing – even in that post (1968-2012).
And how about you report to me about your idiocy

doc

April 27th, 2012
11:23 pm

dn, i am sure it is. it was a joke.

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:23 pm

Dawgnole – Me a loser? What have you ever won?

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:24 pm

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
11:19 pm

Now Dawgnole – Since I think I could get a 4 year old to type, “We haven’t won more than 1 playoff series since 1968″ and “If you disagree with me you are a hopeless loser and part of the problem”, maybe a better idea for you, since we obviously get your point, and got it the very first time you ever posted on this blog, is for you to propose valid ways for us to get better.

Or to give valid insights on the games.

Or something along those lines.

Somethings besides “1″.
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Don’t need you to validate me, loser. And you’re still twisting words. “1″ is your idea, and you’ve already written it many more times than I have. So maybe you should try something else if you’re still refusing to keep your worthless thoughts to yourself.

By the way, did you ever figure out how many years are represented from 1968 to 2012? Thought so.

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:26 pm

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
11:23 pm

Dawgnole – Me a loser? What have you ever won?
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Yes, you, a loser. Not difficult at all to figure out from your fantasy world posts.

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:27 pm

Dawgnole – As I said – anyone who disagrees with the mantra “nothing else matters except no more than 1 winning round in the playoffs for the Hawks since 1968″ is a loser.

Again psycho, we got the point a bunch of posts ago. And I post volumes of suggestions in plausible terms on how we might win a championship.

What are your suggestions for us to win a Championship, rather than just saying the same two sentences in slightly varied form for 7,000 consecutive blog posts?

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:29 pm

Dude – I figured it out LOSER – how about you -are you sure you always meant years and not season – or do you have an incapicity to admit your wrong?

So what have you ever won again LOSER?

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:30 pm

And I have been a real College Head Basketball Coach, and never played fantasy a day in my life – LOSER!

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:32 pm

Fantasy world? Like holding ASG’s feet to the fire fantasy? Like saying the same thing a gazillion different ways fantasy? Like offering up how many valid suggestions to get us to a Championship LOSER!

SteveW

April 27th, 2012
11:35 pm

You’ll probably go crying to the blog moderatror “‘Tevie hurt my little feelings. Whaaa!!”

So give us the suggestions on how to be a Champion LOSER.

I’ve put mine out here numerous times to be criticized and examined by the most knowledgeable bloggers in the world.

Where’s yours? LOSER!!

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:36 pm

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
11:27 pm

Dawgnole – As I said – anyone who disagrees with the mantra “nothing else matters except no more than 1 winning round in the playoffs for the Hawks since 1968″ is a loser.

Again psycho, we got the point a bunch of posts ago. And I post volumes of suggestions in plausible terms on how we might win a championship.

What are your suggestions for us to win a Championship, rather than just saying the same two sentences in slightly varied form for 7,000 consecutive blog posts?.

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
11:29 pm

Dude – I figured it out LOSER – how about you -are you sure you always meant years and not season – or do you have an incapicity to admit your wrong?
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You finally figured it out? What took so long? And why didn’t you report back to the blog as you were instructed?

And how have your “volumes of suggestions” worked out for the Hawks, loser?

“7,000 consecutive posts”? Not only a loser but a dishonest one at that.

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:43 pm

SteveW
April 27th, 2012
11:35 pm

You’ll probably go crying to the blog moderatror “‘Tevie hurt my little feelings. Whaaa!!”

So give us the suggestions on how to be a Champion LOSER.

I’ve put mine out here numerous times to be criticized and examined by the most knowledgeable bloggers in the world.
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You seem to be losing control, Tevie. And how did those suggestions on how to win a championship work out again? How many times do you have to see them fail before you quit posting them?

And you’ve been a “real College Head Basketball Coach”? Whoa! You’d think a “real College Head Basketball Coach” could come up with some plausible suggestions for the Hawks to employ on their way to winning a championship. You’ve failed again, Tevie. A loser and a failure. And dishonest to boot.

Section 303

April 27th, 2012
11:47 pm

Guys, stop fighting. We are lucky we have a playoff series to look forward to.

By the way, these past two weeks I have gotten hooked on The Walking Dead. Any one watch? I am almost done with season 2. Great show!

DawgNole

April 27th, 2012
11:54 pm

Section 303
April 27th, 2012
11:47 pm

Guys, stop fighting. We are lucky we have a playoff series to look forward to.
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Agreed. Now let’s win it so we’ll have another one to look forward to. And aw what the hell. Let’s win that one to, and then . . . .

OK, goodnight, peacemaker.

brigadierjerry

April 27th, 2012
11:58 pm

Dawgnole,

Who do you like in this sries and what are your keys?

SteveW,

You stated before that you didnt think the Knicks were gonna make the playoffs earlier this year. What made you think that?Was it more because of Dantoni as coach before and Woodsan is now coach?

Also what are your picks in the Eastern conference playoffs ?

Celt

April 28th, 2012
12:00 am

I think you are all fk ing crazy.

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:11 am

Dawgnole – Huh? You said, “You seem to be losing control, Tevie. And how did those suggestions on how to win a championship work out again? How many times do you have to see them fail before you quit posting them?

And you’ve been a “real College Head Basketball Coach”? Whoa! You’d think a “real College Head Basketball Coach” could come up with some plausible suggestions for the Hawks to employ on their way to winning a championship. You’ve failed again, Tevie. A loser and a failure. And dishonest to boot.”

Not losing control at all.

Just making suggestions rather than posting the same things everyday multiple times. And not just suggestions, but observations.

Guess you have never won anything since you fail to post what you have.

Dishonest? In what way?

Nolie polie, rhymes with Trollie as in Troll.

How did they fail if Sund never tried them?

You got anything else to say but “1″?

Any LOSER can get on here and state the obvious. LOSER

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:14 am

BJ – D’Antoni – The guy didn’t know how to Coach with ‘Melo healthy.

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:18 am

BJ – Objectively, I think Boston, Indy, Miami, and Chicago win in the 1st round.

Chicago beats Boston in the 2nd round – and Miami beats Indy

Miami beats Chicago for the ECC.

I’m hoping ATL wins it all of course. And that the Knicks beat Miami – and I do think it’s going to be a tough series.

Orlando may surprise the Pacers and at least play them tough.

And Chicago looks vunerable to me. I can’t see Philly beating them after their disasterous finish.

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:21 am

303 – I’m with you there. I just enjoy the ride man. I’ve enjoyed the emergence of ZaZa and Teague. Josh finally getting it. JJ coming on strong the last month of the season. Marvin giving good minutes off the bench. IVAN!!! TMac, Green and Pargo surprising me.

Been a good year for me. And LD has grown a ton as a HC.

Grandad

April 28th, 2012
12:32 am

I don`t know if yawl ever figured it out ?

But, the 1968 season was thye last in St louis.
* [`68 is to the last season in StL as `69 was to the 1st in Atl]
* [`68 was the last season in StL as 2012 is the 44th in the Atl]
* 1968 and / or 2012 being the end yr in any given season.
* 1969 to 1978 = 10 yrs
* 1969 to 2008 = 40 yrs
* 2009 to 20012 = 3 yrs
* total 43 yrs

St Louis Hawks won NBA Championship in 1958

So; it has been 54 yrs since the Hawks organization won the Chmpnshp.

It`s the curse of Bill Russell !

For those who know their Hawks History !
*[If Russell doesn`t sprain his ankle (game 2) Hwks probably don`t win]

Melvin

April 28th, 2012
12:34 am

““God willing, hopefully I’ll stay healthy so I can keep moving up the ladder.””-Josh Smith

Does not sound like a guy who really wants to leave this franchise. Now I’m sure that could change if he feels (and get) disrespected again during free agency.

Grandad

April 28th, 2012
12:35 am

*[If Russell doesn`t sprain his ankle (game 2) Hwks probably don`t win]

1958

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The curse of Bill Russell

Hawks traded his draft rights to Celts
Auerbach = Genius

brigadierjerry

April 28th, 2012
12:40 am

SteveW,

How many games do you see each series going as far as the first round in the eastern conference?

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:50 am

BJ – Tough to tell for me – because my feelings are in the way of my objectivity. I want NY to beat the Heat badly. But reality tells me Miami in no more than 6.

Pacers in 5

Boston in 6

Chicago in 5

But I would love for the Hawks to beat the Greenies. And we might, who knows? That’s why they play the games.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 28th, 2012
12:54 am

We really, really need a ‘ret to go – Zaza in that paint, to have a shot at this series.

brigadierjerry

April 28th, 2012
12:54 am

Sounds crazy and a different team but if the Hawks can beat the Celtics this will make up for the 2007 playoff loss to them. It seems all the favorites are heavy favorites in the East and no series are predicted to go long but I think all in the east will be more competitive than people think.

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:55 am

Any team with a legitimate C is going to give Miami problems. Chandler is a legit C.

I just don’t think Baron and Co. can keep up with Chalmers/Norris.

Shump can actually stick with DWade pretty good. Landry will probably get lit up by LeBron when he’s in. Who doesn’t really? But ‘Melo can make LeBron work on D, so that’s a plus.

A healthy Amare is better than Bosh. But I don’t think he’s healthy.

Kincks gut out 2 wins probably no more.

The slow halfcourt game of the playoffs will help the Knicks. And Woody has his iso guy like he never really had here in ATL with ‘Melo. Could be interesting. Rooting for the Knicks.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 28th, 2012
12:57 am

KG will troll the paint until somebody stops him, who is taller than Ivan.

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:58 am

BJ – It could be like last year – Philly and Indy played tough, but still out in a few games.

Orlando has some vets – And they are rested. I would not be surprised if the locker room didn’t come together and really push Indy.

But I could just as easily see them collapsing in a 4 game sweep also. Alot depends on Jameer, JRich stepping up, and Big Baby playing solid.

SteveW

April 28th, 2012
12:59 am

Need ZaZa in the paint – Agreed.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 28th, 2012
12:59 am

I was going to post the same thing Melvin said at 12:34. I wonder if Josh chose those words intentionally or just said some sh-t that sounded right in that situation. At the trade deadline, he sure sounded like a guy who didn’t want to commit to this franchise long term, when they asked him about it during one of the pregame shows. Maybe his stance has changed, who knows.

brigadierjerry

April 28th, 2012
1:06 am

SteveW, drmaryb, Grandad

This series brings back memories of the ‘87 series. I still have that game on VHS tape game 5 in the boston garden and the Hawks winning that game. My brother and myself was so shocked they won that game. They pulled away from that game late as well just to let the hot air out of the balloon in Game 6 with Nique not at 100%. The pressure of that Game 6 got to the Hawks with Bird predicting a victory before the Game and the worst having Cliff Levingston take a final shot. Ouch that hurts.

I just hope the Heat does not win it this year and word on the street is if they dont, Riley is going to be looking to trade one if not two of the Big Three. I also do not like the Celtics never have always get away with cheap shots and grabbing and Kevin Garnett is a studio Gangsta. I do not like Pierce but respect his game. I like Ray Allen since him and myself went to the same College and I was there when he was there. Quiet guy but a cool one

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

April 28th, 2012
1:50 am

BIG IVAN FOR PRESIDENT

Buddy Grizzard

April 28th, 2012
2:35 am

SteveW don’t feed the troll

Buddy G

April 28th, 2012
3:23 am

“I think the most wishful thinking part of your article on hoopinion, is the fact that we can re-sign Ivan at 1 million.”

Thanks northcyde. Actually I said I think he has a good chance to be offered the full midlevel exception. It’s a very remote possibility but if no other team signed Ivan to an offer sheet and the Hawks decided to maintain maximim cap flexibility for the offseason after next, then Ivan would play on a 1-year veteran’s minimum and be an unrestricted free agent after his second season with the Hawks. If, for example, the Hawks were getting Steve Nash, they might go to Ivan and say “we want to keep you long term but we also want to compete for a championship. We will take the risk that you will walk after two years because we think you will want to stay with a team that has a chance to actually win a title. Play this year out and let’s see what happens.”

“I think the window for Nash has passed.”

This is where I think you are wrong. Nash is a defensive liability but his shooting and playmaking are still at hall of fame levels. At the Sloan conference, an English Premiere League team talked about how they used motion tracking to study an older player that they signed on a value contract. At his age, few teams were willing to invest much money on him. But motion tracking showed that he was still covering alot of ground in the course of games. They got him for cheap, and he scored a ton of goals for them.

Nash may not be getting around like he used to, but no other player has their health down to a science to the level that Nash does. He played at an All Star level this year. Phoenix barely missed the playoffs. Without Nash, that’s a deep lottery team. Not his fault that the talent on that team is so bad that Grant Hill is a starter. I think Nash has alot left in the tank… two seasons of near-All Star production to be exact. I would drop Marvin like a hot potato to sign him up.

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April 28th, 2012
3:25 am

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Buddy G

April 28th, 2012
3:27 am

The thing about Nash is that he’s not going to be much worse on defense than Hinrich and he’s point blank the best shooter in the NBA. If he would sign for two years at $8m per with a third-year team option I would Amnesty Marvin so fast your head would spin. Marvin is not going to do ANYTHING at an All Star level next year. This team needs outside shooters. Nash is the best outside shooter alive on Planet Earth as we speak. Plus, LD would wet his pants if you gave him the chance to send Teague back to the bench.

Does this hurt Teague’s development and confidence? Maybe. Do we have a better chance to win a championship with Nash AND Teague than we do with just Teague? You be the judge.

High-sider

April 28th, 2012
3:31 am

@northcyde, in particular, and Rod from College Park

“Rod .. if Josh Smith boxed out, he could average 12+ rebounds a game. He could easily be a souped-up version of Shawn Marion, a guy who was 2 inches smaller than Josh.

Kenneth Faried ( at 6-8 . . 230 lbs . . basically the same size as Josh ), grabs 12.2 rebounds per 36 minutes. Josh could easily approach that number if he boxed out more…” – northcyde

“…Kenneth Faried is only averaging 7.7 rpg, and Josh is at 9.5 rpg. I have no idea why you keep posting those stupid per 36 minute stats. They mean nothing…” – Rod from College Park

““I have no idea why you keep posting those stupid per 36 minute stats. They mean nothing. ”

I have no idea what that stat really means, so I’ll tear it down, since it weakens my argument.” – The Back Of Rod’s Mind

“…I actually know that it’s an IF stat, and if if was a fith [sic] we’d all be drunk. I don’t live in fantasy world, I deal with real life, with what really happened, not by what would happen if……” – Rod from College Park

The “Per 36 Minutes” statistics [used in the sport of basketball] are “theoretical” statistics – not “actual” statistics. “Per 36 Minutes” statistics are a[n] projection, assumption, extrapolation, forecast, estimate, hypothesis, and/or speculation of how a [basketball] player may perform if given those amount of minutes [36] to play/perform. “Per 36 Minutes” statistics are not used in the selection of All-Star teams and players, All-NBA teams and players and Hall of Fame teams and players; decision-making personnel and selection committees use “actual” data and/or statistics.

“Per 36 Minutes” statistics do have some value. These “theoretical” statistics may or can demonstrate a particular [basketball] player’s [positive] potential and trends, however, “Per 36 Minutes” statistics can only provide a basketball analyst, scout, coach, executive, team owner, etc. [a(n) idea or possibility of] “what may happen” and not “what will happen.”

Just because a [basketball] player averages 7.5ppg, 4.5rpg and 3.5apg in 18mpg does not [necessarily] mean he [or she] will average 15ppg, 9rpg and 7apg in 36mpg. In other words, more playing time [given to a particular basketball player] does not necessarily mean [more] production in direct correlation to additional minutes played; the “law of diminishing returns” may go into effect. If a particular player averages between 18-24mpg and is awarded 36mpg for a number [or period] of games, “Per 36 Minutes” statistics do not and [really] cannot quantify over time [or when additional minutes are played] such intangibles as a player’s endurance, stamina, focus, drive, discipline, poise, intelligence, wisdom, perseverance, strengths, weaknesses, [strength of] character, courage, etc. as all [of those aforementioned intangibles] are important and tested in high-stress, high-pressure, late-game situations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

EmirS.

April 28th, 2012
4:19 am

No love from the TNT crew, they even threw a jab at us:

http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2012/eastseries4/

1:45 – 1:54

doc

April 28th, 2012
6:54 am

buddy g i wonder if cuban might take a stab at nash if his first choice diesnt work out? talking heads were wishing by suggesting it a shot for him in miami.

Buddy Grizzard

April 28th, 2012
8:43 am

Has anyone mentioned that Ivan Johnson is Rookie of the Month for the Eastern Conference for April?

http://www.nba.com/2012/news/04/27/rookies-of-the-month-april/?ls=iref:nbahpt2

Buddy Grizzard

April 28th, 2012
8:52 am

“They endured Tracy McGrady publicly whining about his playing time and Ivan “The Ticking Time Bomb” Johnson getting sent home off a road trip because of a spat with teammates during a game.”

Wow, Schultz doesn’t know that Ivan called out his teammates for lack of effort. He’s painting him as another Metta World Peace. Does he even know that he’s RoM?

Buddy Grizzard

April 28th, 2012
8:59 am

doc yes, Deron Williams’ decision will make things interesting. If Dallas doesn’t land him, Cuban has the cap room to go after Nash, who is still close with Dirk.