Updated: Pachulia out versus Celtics

Vivlamore reporting from Philips Arena.

FOR A GAME THREAD TONIGHT, JEFF SCHULTZ WILL BE BLOGGING LIVE.

The Hawks will definitely be without center Zaza Pachulia for tonight’s key Eastern Conference matchup against the Celtics. Pachulia, who will miss his fourth straight game with a sprained left foot, did not take part in the morning shoot-around and coach Larry Drew ruled him out.

Drew said he had no further update on just how long Pachulia will be out. He did not practice Thursday but worked with trainers on the side.

Drew said he did not know whether  Erick Dampier, who was unavailable Wednesday against the Pistons with a calf injury, would play. He called the back-up center a game-time decision. Dampier did take part in today’s shoot-around.

The Celtics, who held their shoot-around at Georgia Tech, did not travel with Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen and Mickael Pietrus. Coach Doc Rivers confirmed that he will rest Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, meaning the Celtics will be without three starters and two key reserves.

While he said both teams want to win tonight’s matchup, Drew said neither wants to show too much as they will very likely meet in the first round of the playoffs.

“With us and not knowing who they are going to have here tonight as far as guys who are going to play or not going to play, we have to keep that in mind,” Drew said. “We certainly have to keep that in mind because the last thing we want to do is to tip our hand totally. We want to go out and play well. We want to keep doing what we do. But at the same time if this is a team we are going to see in the first round we have to be mindful of that and not tip our hand too much.”

439 comments Add your comment

KevinM

April 20th, 2012
11:40 am

With guys out, does LD do the matchup thing he likes to do against teams or can’t we go into a game with our best guys starting the game?

Is Collins our lucky penny?

vava74

April 20th, 2012
11:52 am

Grandad,

I was not commenting on Fab Melo’s worth. Never seen him play, not even on youtube clips.

My comment was about how high 7′ with perceived talent/skill are picked and that he would not fall so far in the draft order.

Thabeet is an example that actually goes in favor of my argument: the list of crappy 7′ picked high in the first round is big enough to make a human belt around the globe.

Unless Fab Melo completely sucks in his try outs, there will be certainly a GM on #5 to #10 which will take a flier on him.

vava74

April 20th, 2012
11:53 am

To Chris Viviamore:

PLEASE SHUT DOWN THE THREADS WHEN YOU POST A NEW ONE.

Rod from College Park

April 20th, 2012
11:58 am

” A bench player who by and large didn’t do sh-t for the last two seasons shouldn’t come in and be an upgrade over an All NBA player in any respect.”

Totally Agree.

“Night in and night out, no other Hawks player has to contend with anywhere close to the number of disadvantages that Horford does. He usually goes up against centers that are taller, bigger, stronger, or all of the above, on a routine basis. Even with all of these consistent disadvanges, he has still managed to not only hold his own, but perform at an ALLSTAR and ALLPRO level. I don’t know of any soft asses, especially at OC, that can function at that level.”

No one on this team deals with more defensive responsibility, or mismatches than Josh Smith. Josh has guarded everything from top notch 2 guards to centers. Al is scared of Dwight Howard, and wants nothing to do with him, Josh is not. Al is a good man to man defender, but his help defense is not good at all. Even though a lot of centers are bigger than Al, he has the quickness and agility qualities that balance the size difference out. Simply put, he has just become soft.

KevinM

April 20th, 2012
12:00 pm

G-Dad, reading your last blog on big men…..it sounds like you are convinced Sund will once again force a 7 footer on us on draft day…guys that appear to have plenty of limitations.

Melo, all we heard was how important he was to the Cuse zone defense. Doesn’t this mean he will have to come in a learn how to move his feet at the next level? He sounds so limited playing that scheme in Syracuse that he will be playing an entirely different game this next time around…and with no making the grades, will that be an impact to his game at the next level from a common sense standpoint? How does a guy not make his grades in D-1 when they are spoon fed the answers?

And Ezeli may be a better option than Melo, but he had his share of issues last year as well. That doesn’t mean I am only for good character guys, but Sund and this organization doesn’t reach out too far to try and revive questionable character guys.

KevinM

April 20th, 2012
12:02 pm

Everyone does realize LD won’t have Orlando to kick around this playoff season and make them look like they are contenders?
If we can’t get by Boston this year, we will never get past them….where is Slim to remind me how many years its been?

KevinM

April 20th, 2012
12:12 pm

OB, I also heard the Sund interview and as the boys were thanking him for coming in, Sund pops back, “When I’m asked, I come in”….he isn’t asked to do many interviews, is he? But for some reason, he is not much of a speaker….he struggles with his words and he is careful about every word he says.

Najeh, I agree that Sund finally has put together a bench that contributes. But we do have high draft picks in VRad, T-Mac, and Marvin, so they should be able to contribute.
If you gave an award to the bench POY, you know it would be Ivan. Without him, our bench is not the same. And I see the reason why Benson and Rolle was sent to find other opportunities.

Do we take Sund’s word that Teague played home games exlusively to get some playing time his rookie year?

northcyde

April 20th, 2012
12:22 pm

Fab Melo was the reason why Syracuse didn’t win the National Title this year. He was the defensive rock that completed that team. The only game the Cuse lost this year, was when he did not play. If you’re looking for a backup center, especially with the impending loss of Zaza looming over this franchise after next season, Melo may be the way to go.

Grandad is right that Festus Ezeli may be the better prospect. He’s not as good defensively, but he’s much more polished offensively. The only drawback to both guys is that neither is what you’d consider a very good rebounder.

If I were to give an NBA comparison, Fab Melo would be more along the lines of a Theo Ratliff . . while Festus Ezeli would be closer to Nazr Mohammed. Take your pick.

aytunstoppable

April 20th, 2012
12:25 pm

Can someone please explain to me how the hell there are so many people saying al hordford is a bad player when he’s been hurt this whole year basically. Are some of you mentally slow? When he was there for the first 11 games we can easily say, or atleast i feel i can say they would ahve been contenders if he was here this whole season. I mean really they started off the first two weeks with 4 or 5 wire to wire wins and beat miami and chicago with him so where the hell do some of you get off saying if Al was here he’d be clashing with J-smooth. get real damn.

Section 303

April 20th, 2012
12:32 pm

Hawks have to jump on the Celtics hard tonight. No Rondo or Allen…..Hawks have to take advantage of this. Getting homecourt for the first round is essential.

KevinM, I’ve heard Rick Sund speak on a few occasions at season ticket holder events. He is not a bad public speaker. I’ve never gotten the feeling that he was being overly guarded with his words.

northcyde

April 20th, 2012
12:35 pm

And Sund will never admit that some of the draft picks he traded away could’ve possibly helped us this year. It’s one thing to have an “old bench”. It’s another thing to have old guys who can play. Pargo, Green, and T-Mac shows flashes of being able to make major contributions in any given game.

But that still doesn’t mean that you simply dismiss young talent that could develop into being GREATER than the “old guys” you recycle on a yearly basis. Kenneth Faried would be better than ANY PLAYER we bring off the bench ( including Marvin ). Jordan Crawford, at times, would be a better option to play over Hinrich or Willie Green.

Keeping those two picks/guys in the fold, while ALSO adding “old guys” to the bench, would give you a healthy mix of old and young that will keep the team relevant. Sund will never admit that “old guys” like Vlad, Collins, Dampier, and Stackhouse probably shouldn’t even be on the team. Replace Jordan and Kenneth with ANY two of those 4 players, and the Hawks are better.

The true test for Sund is going to be this . . . what players do you re-sign from this bench?

Because the entire league has seen, or is going to see, that some of these guys can play. Someone will offer Ivan more than a vet minimum contract. Somebody might even offer him the full MLE. So what do you do then Sund, if that happens? Do you just let Ivan go, and roll the dice on some other “old guy”?

What about Pargo . . seeing that we’re going to lose Hinrich. Hell, do you bring Hinrich back? What about Willie Green? What about McGrady, if he proves to be a valuable commodity during the playoffs?

The fact is that while Rick Sund brought in 4 decent free agents that he could sign on the cheap, can he keep doing this on a yearly basis? At some point, the development of young talent has to take place. You just can’t keep trading away draft picks, just because you like the experience that the “old guys” bring to the table.

But we’ll see what Sund is really about, when people start throwing money at Ivan. History says that he doesn’t even put up a fight to keep him here.

Admiral Snackbar

April 20th, 2012
12:42 pm

“Boston is going to be a division champion. A non-division championship team with a record better than a division champion (or champions, plural) can be seeded higher — but just the single winningest non-division champion can do that under NBA rules. The Hawks are three games behind the No. 3 Pacers (40-22), who have won six straight but cannot catch their division-leading Bulls.”

Hawks have to pass Pacers to get home court. not gonna happen.

cp

April 20th, 2012
12:45 pm

Fab Melo is a good shot blocker but dude has no offensive game and is a poor rebounder. He might slip to the second round. A guy that looks intriguing for the Hawks is Moe Harkless from St. Johns.

MrNique

April 20th, 2012
12:47 pm

There’s the news that Doc might be sitting Garnett and Pierce too:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/20/both-garnett-pierce-to-sit-out-friday-celtics-game-vs-hawks/

They really don’t care where they play us. which is scary, but if I was in their shoes I wouldn’t care either. They are 2-0 against us already. Anyway, I hope this just adds fuel to the fire and does not rattle us. This is gonna be an epic series if/when it goes down no matter who has home court. I expect both teams to take at least one on the other teams court anyway.

Section 303

April 20th, 2012
12:58 pm

Admiral, the Hawks do not have to pass the Pacers to get homecourt. All they have to do is finish with a better record than the Celtics. The Celtics would still be considered the 4th seed, but the Hawks would have the homecourt edge.

vava74

April 20th, 2012
1:00 pm

If Doc sits Garnett and Pierce, he is playing mind games with the Hawks and avoiding at all cost that a win by the Hawks might give us a psychological lift.

northcyde

April 20th, 2012
1:01 pm

MrNique

April 20th, 2012
12:47 pm

There’s the news that Doc might be sitting Garnett and Pierce too:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/20/both-garnett-pierce-to-sit-out-friday-celtics-game-vs-hawks/

They really don’t care where they play us. which is scary, but if I was in their shoes I wouldn’t care either. They are 2-0 against us already.

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Veteran teams that have won at a high level truly don’t care where they play. All I know that it may be too much to ask the Hawks to win 2 games in Boston, to advance to the next round, if we don’t have home court advantage. You know that Boston may get one game in ATL, so that would force us to win 2 games up there.

If Doc wants to rest everybody, go right ahead. Maybe we can jump on them real quick, and have a repeat of the Detroit game, in which our starters play preseason minutes, while the bench showcases what they do.

Then again, this may be a ploy by Doc Rivers to see just how to defend our bench. He knows how to defend JJ and Smith, but he may want a closer look at some of our reserves.

Drew talks about not “tipping his hand”. You’re facing Doc Rivers man. He already knows the “core” Hawks backwards and forwards. He coached T-Mac. All he needs to see, is more of guys like Pargo and Ivan.

Just dont mess around and lose this game tonight without any of Boston’s “core” playing. This fan base would go into a nuclear meltdown.

The Knicks game on Sunday is the game I’m looking forward to anyway. They’re playing for much more than what Boston is playing for right now.

Big Lou

April 20th, 2012
1:13 pm

“The Knicks game on Sunday is the game I’m looking forward to anyway. They’re playing for much more than what Boston is playing for right now.”

Why? They are already garunteed in the playoffs and they have a better chance against the Bulls.

Astro Joe

April 20th, 2012
1:14 pm

I’m still convinced that LD didn’t want to show the Celtics any of his better last possession plays last week (or whenever we last played the Celtics). Instead, he went with a very generic iso-Joe play. Sounds like tonight’s game may not be as rugged as some of those games last night (dude from the Bucks acted like he had lost his mind).

Some of y’all are just plain old hating on Horford. Does Ivan bang harder than Dirk? Bosh? Aldridge? Yes, and not a single reasonable person would want Ivan over Dirk, Aldridge or Bosh (unless they are in an alley and need some help getting home out of that dark and dangerous alley). Birdman blocks shots better than Blake Griffin or Kevin Love, so what?

Give me a break.

Rev in Tampa

April 20th, 2012
1:22 pm

I missed the Heat/Bulls game last night. Unfortunately, I also missed Shaq’s half-time commentary about “farting on the bench”. For any of you who are as immature as I am, here it is:

http://www.schnittshow.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104673&article=10067015

I can’t wait for my ten year old son to come home from school today. We’ll enjoy watching it together to my wife’s great consternation.

Astro Joe

April 20th, 2012
1:27 pm

Rev, look for Vince Carter’s sour burp in the face of Rudy Gay from about a week ago… that was pretty funny, also and my 12 YO got a big kick out of it.

O'brien

April 20th, 2012
1:33 pm

If Woody was still coaching the Hawks, I would feel better about the Hawks defending home court. But under LD, we have been better on the road and worse at home. And if there is one team that can win anywhere, it’s Boston (plus they will have lots of fans in Phillips).

Therefore, I don’t think it matters that much whether or not the Hawks have home court advantage. We can lose either way.

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
1:36 pm

Been looking over our cap situation lately. I really think Mr. Sund is going to try the ol’ Josh for a Lottery pick thing again this season – especially if Josh wants to be traded.

This would allow him to save about 9 mill this season from Josh’s salary.

This would also allow him to re-sign Ivan this off season, and ZaZa and Teague next off season.

And for some strange reason, given Sund’s fascination with big men in the past, I think he will focus on Zeller from UNC.

Then both our 1st picks this season will become RFA’s the year Horford and JJ’s contracts run out.

And for those who have not seen basketball chemistry between JJ and Josh this season, I have to disagree. They may not be McHale/Bird or something – but they definitely play well together, and have some chemistry.

PS – Anybody on here still want to say Josh has the lowest BB IQ on the team after the season he’s had? Stupid plays and J’s – Yes. Low BB IQ – No.

TMac has a high BB IQ also.

And for what it’s worth, I think Teague goes coast to coast fantastic with the rock. One of the best in the League.

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
1:40 pm

I wonder when/if LD will shut Josh, JJ, and maybe Teague down to rest them for the playoffs? After tonite? If we win maybe – won’t we be 1.5 games up – so we could still lose a game and have HC, unless Snackbar is correct.

MC says Snackbar is incorrect – but the rule looked pretty open and shut to me – unless I’m misinterpreting the rule.

Anyway – Good job Snackbar for bringing another perspective in here.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 20th, 2012
1:40 pm

Head Games!

If doc wants to do his Popovich impersonation and use his bench to embarrass our starters? Then Drew should counter that and start our bench as well.

Go ahead and allow doc to scout our bench players against
his bench players and call it a wash, since those won’t be the same players on either side to determine the outcome of a 7even game series anyway.

Historically, doc has always rested his old guys the week before the playoffs begin. This is old hat and certainly nothing new.

If Drew were smart, he should rest his starters as well and avoid any injuries to his crew. Consider this, what if some scrub takes down MVT or makes a dirty play to hurt Josh, who tweaked his knee in that same game where Zaza got hurt.

I’m just sayin’.

O'brien

April 20th, 2012
1:41 pm

Truth,

In a perfect world, that is what you want their responsibilities to be. But just like how some PGs are scoring PGs, and not facilitating PGs, not all centers are defend the paint, block shots and rebound type centers. For example, Bargnani is the starting center for the Raptors. I don’t think his main responsibility is defending the paint, blocking shots and rebound.

AJ,

Co-sign. Has Al gotten soft? yes. but the way some bloggers talk about him makes him sound like he has already maxed out his potential, and is best suited as a bench guy. And so many people are loving Josh right now, whereas a couple years ago, they wanted him out of town.

If the Hawks continue to feature Josh, and he flames out in the playoffs (dude is 10-63 from 3 in the playoffs…16%), it will be interesting to see what the fan reaction is. Plus Josh has his issues against Boston too.

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
1:42 pm

Doc – Thanks for the clarification from the last blog.

Astro Joe

April 20th, 2012
1:42 pm

Funny, McHale and Bird didn’t get along at ALL off-the-court.

OB, at some point, this team needs to get to the point where home court in the first round is irrelevant. And after winning 3 consecutive first round playoff series, I think the time is now. Being healthy needs to take priority over home court. Or course, the ASG likely feels differently.

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
1:44 pm

If Doc does in fact sit Garnett and Pierce tonite – Round 1 to Doc in the Coaching chess match with LD.

And Boston doesn’t play again until the 24th, so almost a week of rest for their main guys.

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

And all this Teague has to defer to JJ and Josh at crunch time stuff – JJ needs to realize that already Teague is not that far behind him. Teague loved crunch time and to be the man at Wake. But he, like JJ, is a quiet leader. But his game has inner dog in it, if he’s not too bludgeoned by JJ and Josh.

At Wake, he was the man clearly on the team. He just took over, and that’s what was expected. Here, he’s tried that and been beat down, and he didn’t know how to respond.

Good to see JJ and Paul Pierce on the front page of ESPN.com. National TV tonite folks. Same Sunday with the Knicks.

Back to Teague deferring to JJ in crunch time. I think Teague, if he’s got a favourable matchup, just needs to do it. Statistically:

Teague shooting 47.1%
JJ 44.3%

Teague 4.9 assists per game
JJ 3.9 assists per game

JJ a better FT shooter, at 86% to 75%

Teague is already a better guy grabbing steals – 1.6 per game to .82 for JJ. Teague is Top 10 last I checked

And Teague hilariously enough averages over twice as many blocks per game as JJ.

TO’s are about the same at 1.9 for JJ, and 2.0 for Teague.

Teague is quietly in his 1st first full season starting, become our 3rd leading scorer, and mr. durability – neither he or Josh have missed a game.

JJ is a better player. But the gulf is not as wide as it may seem to some. And I think Teague is a viable option to close out games, just like JJ and Josh.

Airball whiff against Boston notwithstanding.

TMACfan

April 20th, 2012
2:00 pm

Boston is going to sit Pierce and Garnett. We NEED to win this game by a large amount or ESPN will take a dump on us.

Bravesfan79

April 20th, 2012
2:04 pm

Congrats to everyone who thought signing Dampier was a good move… you got what you wanted. Complete crap! And thats when hes healthy enough to play!

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
2:04 pm

The Hawks have 8 guys with PER’s at 14 or higher. That’s a quality, deep team. And Willie is not in that number at 13.5.

Neither is Kirk at 8.9

Admiral Snackbar

April 20th, 2012
2:07 pm

I cut and pasted that from the preview write up to the Detroit game from the NBA website. either the NBA doesn’t know what the rule is or that is the rule.

TMACfan

April 20th, 2012
2:08 pm

kreedham

April 20th, 2012
2:10 pm

Getting home court will be tough. Indiana has a decent lead and even if our record is better than Boston they get home court for winning their division. Lots of substitutions would be good against Boston. Even play Stackhouse. Boston won’t know what to do when we throw our playoff lineup against them. LD should say let’s just have fun tonight! Need to beat knicks to knock them down in the standings a little…would be nice to get 40 wins in short season but let’s focus on 5 spot for playoffs unless Indiana can lose out!

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
2:10 pm

ZaZa is averaging 8.7 pts and 8.8 rebounds per game as a starter in 31.8 minutes. 44 games total. Not bad.

Ivan in 7 games in April is averaging 13.6 ppg, 6.3 rbg, 58.7% shooting, and 1.4 steals per game in 26 minutes per game.

His last 3 games:

16 and 10
21 and 8
14 and 7 with 3 steals.

Only 4 turnovers combined in those 3 games.

Re-sign IVAN!!

DawgNole

April 20th, 2012
2:12 pm

Vivlamore: “While he said both teams want to win tonight’s matchup, Drew said neither wants to show too much as they will very likely meet in the first round of the playoffs.”

Drew: “With us and not knowing who they are going to have here tonight as far as guys who are going to play or not going to play, we have to keep that in mind,” Drew said. “We certainly have to keep that in mind because the last thing we want to do is to tip our hand totally. We want to go out and play well. We want to keep doing what we do. But at the same time if this is a team we are going to see in the first round we have to be mindful of that and not tip our hand too much.”
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Oh great. Here come the excuses already. I can hear it from Drew now, following yet another Celtics victory: “We didn’t want to tip our hand too much so we laid down.” Coward!

JUST GO OUT AND WIN THE DAMN GAME, Creampuff!!! In case you didn’t know, it’s HUGE. It’s a statement game and a credibility game. Stop with the wimpy excuses already. That’s what ATL’s been doing for damn near 50 years, and guess what? IT HASN’T WORKED.

This is what makes me sick about this town and its sports teams–always whining about something.

They’re missing players, we’re missing players–big deal. Tonight offers a vitally important opportunity to send a message to the league that the Hawks can beat pedigreed team on national TV. Now quit mealy-mouthing and go out and do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
2:13 pm

Snack – MC called the League office and they said Hawks homecourt if they had the better record. They said the team with the better record always had homecourt.

The NBA doesn’t know their own rule maybe? Could happen. Wouldn’t surprise me. Tiebreakers get weird sometimes.

kreedham

April 20th, 2012
2:14 pm

Just rechecked standings. Best we can do is tie Indiana…not sure who has tiebreaker. Worst we can do is tie Knicks and if they lose 1 or we win 1 then this won’t happen. Just have to stay ahead of Orlando.

KCG

April 20th, 2012
2:17 pm

Al Horford is holding Josh Smith back. Josh would have made the all rookie team his 1st year if it wasn’t for Al. Josh would have also made the sophmore all star team if it wasn’t for Al. He would have also made the All Star team in his 3rd season if it wasn’t for Al. Wait a minute, my bad, Al was not in the league for Josh’s first three years.

Astro Joe

April 20th, 2012
2:19 pm

Maybe we should sign Rasheed. :lol:

SteveW, slow down on the Teague-Joe talk.

SteveW

April 20th, 2012
2:22 pm

Boston is really gelling at the right time. 22-9 since the All Star game – tough, tough schedule. Beat the Heat a couple of times like they own them, Home and Away. I like Pietrus, Stiemsma, Bass, and Bradley as pieces around the Big 4. Doc gets alot of credit here also.

They could really do some damage this playoff time.

Bravesfan79

April 20th, 2012
2:23 pm

Good job snackbar? Dude thought we had to get the 3 seed to get homecourt. Sounds like a typical hardcore college football fan that knows nothing about real sports and how playoffs work.

drmaryb.(*_*).

April 20th, 2012
2:24 pm

SteveW

You give Sund way too much credit for aggressive trading and creativity. The ASKG are in love with Josh and are not going to hand him over to a rebuild project draft pick, (an unknown commodity) for another possible Marvin Williams pick.

The first goal is to resign Josh, the fan favorite and get rid of the Marvin’s of the world. Josh is a player they can build around and it will take more than a maybe player to move him. Besides, IDK if Josh really wants to leave more so than be hugged and appreciated.

You see how reluctant Otis Smith was to trade Dwight and ended up getting him to waive his opt out clause, even though Dwight was severely unhappy with this teammates and coaches.

I predict Josh will be re-signed with that trade kicker in his contract, if not, he will be traded for several proven veteran players and not one “maybe” unproven lottery pick below #10. IMHO

aytunstoppable

April 20th, 2012
2:31 pm

no pirece or garnett tonight can u say rout.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2012
2:36 pm

Pierce, Allen, Rondo, and KG all out tonight. That tells me two things: 1) Boston doesn’t give a sh-t about whether they have home court against the Hawks or not, and 2) ESPN is going to be p-ssed.

Melvin

April 20th, 2012
2:41 pm

SteveW,

If the Hawks beat the Celtics in a 7 game series by winnning all of their home games, do round 2 or round 1 goes to the LD?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2012
2:45 pm

FTPB

“If one accepted your analogy on Horford and the qualities you think would make him as soft as a baby’s ass, then you’d have to say Wilt Chamberland was also as soft as a baby’s ass. It was widely known that he had an issue about hurting players, which is why he never got physical, and never retaliated in anyway when players were overly physical with him.”

If Al was averaging 50 points and 25 boards a game, he could be as soft as he wanted to be.

“I also remember when a world class boxer named Emile Griffith was destined to be one of the greatest boxers ever, until he beat Bennie THE KID Parrett so badly that he died in the ring. He was never the same once he lost his killer instinct. Would you call him a soft ass for that? ”

When did Al kill somebody?

“Night in and night out, no other Hawks player has to contend with anywhere close to the number of disadvantages that Horford does. He usually goes up against centers that are taller, bigger, stronger, or all of the above, on a routine basis. ”

Night in and night out, Josh has to go against power forwards who weigh more than him.

Night in and night out, Joe has to go against 2-guards who are quicker than him.

Night in and night out, Zaza has to go against centers who are more athletic than him.

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Anyway, in the previous post, I wasn’t accusing Al of being soft. All I said was that if two of the popular blog conspiracy theories are true — that the foul on TJ Ford and the foul by Griffin affected Al’s psyche — that makes him mentally soft. I have no idea whether those conspiracy theories are true or not.

Grandad

April 20th, 2012
2:47 pm

vava

‘` My comment was about how high 7′ with perceived talent/skill
are picked and that he would not fall so far in the draft order.`’

‘` Thabeet is an example that actually goes in favor of my argument `’

‘` certainly a GM on #5 to #10 which will take a flier on him `’
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Comment # 1:
This is a deep and talent laden draft.
Your comments are certainly true in most yrs.
However, not this yr.
Per Draft Xpress he is the 28th ranked eligble draftee.
he is dropping.
DX has five Centers/ Pwr Frwrd combos listed ahead of him.
Personally I see 6 going ahead of him with possibly as many as 9.

Comment # 2:
The Thabeet comparison is working against him.
Too many similarities.

Comment # 3:
I agree when workouts start – he could move up.
I think when workouts start – he is going to fall even further.
My opinion only.
I have seen him play.

notes:
Thabeet is / was better.
Thatbeet taller & longer.
Melo ill measure out @ slightly below 7 ft w/o shoes.
his wing-span is below most of the other Centers in this draft.
*[including those listed as combo C / F ]
Thabeet had a monstrous w-span compared to Melo
Melo is fairly slow and unathletic.
Melo is about to turn 22 yrs old already even though only a soph
Also he only avg 7.8 pts & 5.8 rebs per

AND;;; yes I saw him play more than a few times.

One other item;
he played a zone his whole life … not just at Syracuse;
but always a zone.
He will have to start from scratch learning defense.

Anyone who drafts him in the 1st round is *’`NUTS`’*
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Look for Sund to draft Fab Melo with our 1st pick !!!!!